Thread 21669405

do you look down on people who can’t cook?

in general yes but as for OP's pic absolutely not
anon (term of endearment for someone not anon) is trying and that's a good thing

>>21669405 (OP)
I look down on people desperate for attention. Whether they are posting reddit screenshots on 4chan or pretending a normal emotion like anxiety is a disease.

I'm really tall so I look down on everybody

I look down at most people. I'm tall.

>>21669405 (OP)
If I had reddit I would question if he temp checked those and link an article to food born bacteria.

i'm on the short side so i don't look down on people much wags tail

>>21669405 (OP)
only people who refuse to learn

>>21669519
this. I don't care if you're not a good cook, everybody starts somewhere. but if you refuse to even try, then yeah, I think that's pretty pathetic.

>>21669405 (OP)
You better have SOME redeeming quality.
Not everybody does everything (talking car mechanics or general housework, budgeting (lol)) but you have to be able to do SOMETHING.

>>21669405 (OP)
Do people who heat up frozen food think they are actually cooking? I just call it throwing together something real quick.

>>21669578
You have an anime avatar so your opinion goes in the trash.

>>21669405 (OP)
only if they refuse to try.

>>21669405 (OP)
I look down on people that have to post on Reddit for validation.

I look down way more on people who spout tired memes about regional cuisines instead of trying them (ie 80%+ of this board)

>>21669405 (OP)
Yes. I also look down on people with mental illnesses.

>>21669594
Which regional cuisine has you butthurt anon?

>>21669405 (OP)
No. I try to teach them. I do look down on people who think they CAN cook when they can't.
No such thing as a cooking phobia.

>>21669412
overrated post

>>21669413
SAD

>>21669589
anime website cuck

>>21669610
I didn't say anything about it not being an anime website I just said that as an otaku you're opinions belong in the trash along with any anime that you watch.

>>21669610
delete this

>>21669624
I'm curious. Was your reply approved by your wife and her husband before or after you pressed Post?

>>21669405 (OP)
Have you ever made pierogis from scratch? That shit takes all fucking day.

>>21669634
no it doesn't.

>>21669636
How many are you making 12? Call me back when me and Oma have to make hundreds for the whole family.

>>21669639
You simply lack talent and dedication.

>>21669405 (OP)
generally, yes. because that means you're relying on other people to feed you.

>>21669633
Yeah, good one. If anyone here is a joke it would be you wearing knee socks and a shirt and asking your mother to call you "mam" every time she brings your take away slop and HRT drugs down into the basement.

>>21669593
happy Diwali sirs

>>21669519
i agree with this post

>>21669405 (OP)
>Cooking phobia
What causes a person develop a phobia of cooking? How do the people with retarded phobias like that even survive?

>>21669767
hypochondria and/or food poisoning trauma. also at an old workplace several people told me they don't like to deal with/touch raw meat. it's rough out there.

>>21669767
I mean maybe if an accidental fire when cooking leads to a house fire that claims both of your parents lives and leaves you horrifically disfigured, that'd do it.

>>21669405 (OP)
I pity them.

>>21669412
>>21669413
Right? they are all beneath us.

>>21669781
The raw meat thing was my issue for the longest time. I finally got over it and now chicken I cook is 10x better than any store bought frozen shit. You can absolutely survive off eating frozen food + vitamins only.

>>21669405 (OP)
I look down on people who won’t learn

>>21669523
>don't care if you're not a good cook
keep that same energy when I serve you my 6th ever meal and it’s barely edible

>>21669589
>The face of antianime is a smug fat faggot fedoralord
Says many things, and none of them good

>>21669405 (OP)
Not really. I can barely cook. Like... I can follow a recipe, but does that count?

If I absolutely had to cook for survival, I could do it and make it palatable, but if you gave me a stocked kitchen and told me to make something from scratch, I doubt I'd make anyone all that happy.

>>21669781
I don't like touching raw meat either, but that doesn't prevent me from cooking. I just compulsively wash my hands.

>>21669865
Just watch a lot of cooking videos on YouTube. That's what I did.

>>21669857
if I know it's your 6th ever meal, I will be forgiving of that. just as long as you don't shut down and get upset if I offer constructive criticism.

and honestly? I think you're being hyperbolic anyway. imo, it's not easy to make something totally inedible even if you fuck up. that is, as long as you're following some kind of guide or recipe and not just blindly throwing shit together. at worst, most people's 6th ever meal is going to be bland and unrefined, not downright inedible. but you've convinced yourself that you're incapable to excuse yourself from trying, and that attitude is the problem.

>>21669405 (OP)
Can someone please recommend some resources how to learn to cook? This is my first time living on my own and I've been surviving on oats and eggs. I want to learn to cook though, but I don't know where to start. It's really hard and I'm scared. Where do I begin and how do I progress?

>>21669871
>It's really hard and I'm scared.
First of all, ditch this mentality. It's really not that hard. Just start off by following recipes. If you can read and follow basic instructions, you can cook pretty much anything to a passable degree. You just have to get in the kitchen and do it, and stop being afraid of failure, because you will make mistakes, you will have failures, but that's okay. You learn from them and move on.
If you actually want to learn to cook beyond just following instructions, mostly that just comes from time and experience in the kitchen. As you get more comfortable with your tools, and with techniques and ingredients, your confidence will grow. And don't just follow the recipes blindly, but think about why you're doing what they ask you to do, how different processes effect different foods, how you're using your tools. Just pay attention and keep cooking and you will learn over time.

Btw I recommend video recipes because it's good to have the visual aid to see what people are doing, and often cooks in videos will get more in depth about the *why* behind what they're doing, but basic written recipes are a fine jumping off point too.

>>21669871
Buy a cookbook, read it, bookmark recipes you like the look of, buy the necessary ingredients for them and follow the instructions.
While doing this, pay attention to the key details that make a meal good. Most will include some savory ('umami') flavors, some kind of oil or fat, and something sharp like salt, lemon juice, etc. Get a feel for how long different ingredients take to cook. Understand of what herbs/spices go with what. Eventually you will no longer need the recipe book.
GL fren

>>21669767
>What causes a person develop a phobia of cooking?

Well my dad almost burned to death as a child because he set himself on fire while cooking lel. He still cooks himself breakfast every morning and never had any kind of fear of cooking as far as I'm aware.

>>21669578
Yes. Wrecks who are scared of cooking have to start somewhere. Boiling frozen food is a step above microwaving frozen food or pouring water in a plastic noodle bowl. If they're not a lost cause they'll eventually start cooking with whole ingredients.

>>21669767
I guess there could be trauma. I get slightly anxious before starting an elaborate recipe, and some people can’t even drive, so I wouldn’t put it past them.

>>21669405 (OP)
depends
>disabled including fully retarded like in op pic
Fine, if you don't have hands or some shit then I don't blame you for ordering doordash
>really fucking loaded rich, basically has always had private chefs
Can't talk shit on this even though I'd like to out of jealousy
>simple lazy idiot who could cook but doesn't despite damage to health and wealth eating slop all the time
Pathetic beyond belief, should be shot immediately
>cooks, but keeps it at a "momslop" lobotomized housewife level with no interest in learning anything beyond that
Sad but the best we can hope for out of most people, acceptable

>>21669405 (OP)
Nothing wrong with it if they're putting in effort to improve. If they cope about it "being cheaper to order food" or are just really narrow minded towards food and cooking, then it does make me think less of them.

>>21669871
Think Like A Chef - Tom Colicchio (top pick)
Salt, Fat, Acid, and Heat - Samin Nosrat (easy, good first book)
Food Lab - J. Kenji López-Alt (reddit, but solid if you can look past that)
Ruhlman's Twenty - Michael Ruhlman
On Food and Cooking - Harold McGee (OG)
Modernist Cuisine - Nathan Myhrvold
Flavorama - Arielle Johnson

>>21669405 (OP)
I look down on those who do cook. They’re basically women doing a woman’s job.

>>21669989
"men" who can't cook are pathetic. you don't need to cook all the time, but you should absolutely know how to. what are you, a child? you need mommy to cook for you? sad.

>>21669868
Regardless anon, while I enjoy watching some of that stuff, I don't really pick anything up that helps me cook from scratch. It kind of assumes you already have a stocked kitchen and all of the materials.

I learned more in home economics in 7th grade than I'll ever learn from a YouTube video. YouTube tends to assume you already have the basics down and is still just following a recipe.

>>21669589
>>21669646
kek, did some otaku steal your girlfriend or something?
That's some high level seething right there. You are taking this strangely personally.

>>21669989
Wow, they let you out of Romanian prison, Tate? How buttraped were you in there?

>>21669405 (OP)
Yes
Cooking is literally a survival skills that can be learned in less than 100 hours. If you aren't willing to put that time into a literal survival skills I shudder to think what other skills you don't have or are severely underdeveloped

Lmao

>>21669871
Just google the recipe for whatever you want to make, and follow the most popular one. If you don’t know the meaning of a term they use, look it up. After a while you’ll get a sense of how to do things without needing to stick to the recipe so closely, and that’s when you can start experimenting.

>>21669410
Second post, great post.

>>21669405 (OP)
Nah. I live in Manhattan and I genuinely have no need to cook. I can walk around the corner and get a sandwich, bowl of excellent ramen, pizza, French cuisine, whatever.

>>21670161
reddit is such a piece of shit; the only way people will even consider reading a full comment if it starta and ends with compliments
Faggy office bullshit

>>21669405 (OP)
not if their hot.

>>21670213
Yeah I get that the OP clearly has some deep seated issues but Jesus fucking Christ the coddling is ridiculous

>>21669405 (OP)
Yes.

>>21669405 (OP)
I'm 8'3" tall. I look down on everyone.

Do people who post tranime reaction images really think they're human?

>>21669405 (OP)
Man, what a retard.

>>21669405 (OP)
Yes because it is extremely easy to learn nowdays. Just find a good recipe and copy it that’s all you need to do to have a decent meal.

>>21670205
Are you an upper class woke globalist managerial technocrat or a third world import welfare proletarian?

>>21669405 (OP)
I look down on two kinds of cooks. Those who do not dare to experiment and therefore continue to use inferior methods (canned/pre-packaged products, etc) and those who insist upon using methods that are far too advanced for their experience level without knowing why those methods exist (Sous vide, maillard reaction, etc).
By all means, experiment and share what you make. I am by no regards a great chef, but I can handle myself well in a kitchen and perform most of the basic prep tasks decently enough for an untrained home cook. I don't always shoot for haut cuisine when I cook, but I do always put my best effort into every meal I make, and that's the most important part.
Also, enjoying yourself and extending that joy to others who dine with you.

>>21669610
Kek. I don't animu, but the idea of trolling people by eating a burger with a knife & fork is hilarious. Will have try this at Chili's the next time we go.

>>21669767
For some, it's the idea that you've spent hard-earned money on food and if it doesn't come out right or even worse burns and gets ruined then you've wasted said money.
This was it for me when I started cooking. The first time I bought a tenderloin NGL I felt that.

>>21669578
Yes

>>21669578
If someone said "throwing something together real quick" I'd still assume cooking, just with less effort involved and maybe packaged ingredients (canned green beans, canned cooked lentils, stuff like that).
For actually putting frozen nuggets or a pizza in the oven I'd refer to it as "heat something up real quick".
Probably a local language thing.
But yes, they do mean that, had a roommate who "cooked" by heating up frozen pizza and if he felt fancy adding pre-sliced salami slices and pre-grated cheese onto the frozen pizza before putting it in the oven.

>>21670293
Do passive aggressive newfaggot Jakshitters think they shouldn't be nailed to a cross?

>>21669405 (OP)
I would like to bet $1000 that this fag claims to be autistic (undiagnosed tho because he also has social anxiety) and 3 or more totally real medical deficiencies

>>21670425
I've done it before at restaurants when I don't feel like getting my hands dirty. It was great when my friend talked shit, but at the end of the meal he went to find the bathroom to wash his hands but the place we were at didn't have a public restroom. He didn't say shit on the ride home.

>>21670409
I didn't know Jordan Peterson used 4chan

>>21670455
>Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it.
Welp that answers that

>>21670441
>"cooked" by heating up frozen pizza and if he felt fancy adding pre-sliced salami slices and pre-grated cheese onto the frozen pizza before putting it in the oven.
This is how you get started. You get curious and try something. Excitement occurs. Keep this going and you eventually start to amass a skill set.
For me, it was cooking for my children. I'm a single dad and I was poor when I got visitation with them, so I had to make meals my kids would eat that wouldn't break my budget.
Things that worked well:
>Pasta
>Meat & Potatoes
>Burgers
I started doing other meals too, out of curiosity, wanting to increase my recipe book.
>Rotisserie chicken
>Fried chicken (I still suck at this. LOL)
>Teriyaki chicken & noodles
>Steaks
>Pork chops
>etc.
Now, I have money. I can buy expensive cuts like tenderloin and strip steaks. I roasted a duck a couple weeks ago and made a raspberry sauce to go over it.
I also can afford to eat out. If I ask my kids, pizza night? They get mad. NO, PLEASE COOK! My kids turn down fast food in favor of meat, taters & veggies. I'm very proud, especially to have demonstrated the simplicity and value of cooking for one's self.
It's a skillset you must build, like anything else. And yes, I started by added shit to simple stuff like .... let's add some bacon to this pizza...
Experiment more. Good luck.

>>21670175
>follow the most popular one
You're very right, but I would caution against just choosing the most popular. Doing that has taken me down some rather dark paths...
People have really weird tastes and very different approaches to cooking tasks. I've followed recipes that have come out horrible due to the tastes of the recipe creator.
Mostly stuff that is way too sweet or over-seasoned. Use caution and go with your gut if you see something that ain't adding up.

>>21670488
The most popular one is the most likely to appeal to a wide variety of tastes so it's the least likely to be offensively sweet or overseasoned to the average person. You adjust the recipe as you get it down to your own personal tastes.

>>21669519
Yup, best post in the thread. Sums it up nicely

>>21670479
Good shit anon, turning your kids against the fast food slopshit is a great sign theyll grow up healthy. Based and healthy-pilled

>>21669519
why the women holding their knives like that

>>21669871
One of the ways that I got into cooking was buying cheap cookbooks at my local used book store. Many cookbooks suck but you can sometimes find cool ones. I find they are an easy way to get a lot of ideas of what you might want to eat, rather than always cooking directly from them. There's always free recipes online, and many of them are fine.
If you're unsure with just a written recipe, watch a video so you can see the process and techniques beforehand. Constantly try to taste what you are cooking as well. Following a recipe is fine, but taste something before and after you add salt, fat, spices, and acid. One recipe may roast something, while another will cook it in a pan. As you use more techniques, consider why one was chosen over the other.

>>21670409
neither, I am a gay faggot

>>21669405 (OP)
Cooking isn't difficult so yeah.

>>21669410
That's your reddit post, isn't it.

>>21669519
This is a good post.
If the extent of someone's cooking is hamburger helper or doordash, then yes I absolutely look down on them.
But if someone is at least trying to actually cook I would not make fun of them. Much better to encourage.

>>21669405 (OP)
Why would you? They have just as much potential as any of us to be able to.

>>21669405 (OP)
People not cooking out of laziness or because they just don't put in effort into learning are beneath me, the guy in that pic is putting in effort and actually made something. I'm not going to discourage someone that sucks at something from attempting to improve at it.

>>21669412
I've got a step-ladder, you ain't looking down nowhere near me

>>21669412
>>21669413
Big words for someone at optimal ball-punching height.

It's up to them if they want to waste their money. But if they can keep it cheap and healthy with a microwave, more power to them.

>>21670213
the only difference between reddit and 4chan is the voting, and comments stick around forever.

>>21670479
That is all good advice, but I think you misunderstood me, I was talking about my ex roommate. I know how to cook and enjoy it a lot as a hobby.
For what it's worth I got him to cook somewhat at the end, first with simple dishes like pasta and a self-made tomato sauce rather than canned, then he tried some of those "gif recipes" that were popular at the time (somehow the visual aid seemed to give him more confidence) and at the end his cooking was serviceable. Nothing super special, but also good enough that you'd eat it and be fulfilled after.

>>21670428
This, fuck I hate it, still do it though

>>21670161
>-77
reddit is so funny

>>21669405 (OP)
>do you look down on people who can’t cook?

Slaves that can only eat prepackaged frozen slop and carry out? They can't help themselves, clearly.

>>21669767
I knew a guy who was afraid of cooking after a freak gas explosion took out half his face when he was a child

>>21671942
Harvey Two-face?

>>21669890
Lead insulates the brain from trauma

>>21669410
OP pic isn't anxiety it's learned helplessness, same as people with "disorders" like AFRID that freak the fuck out over textures or "bad memories" of being forced to try something and like, totally throwing up, and they act like the food raped them. It's just being a prima donna

>>21669589
based, look at all those triggered weebcels

>>21672045
HOLY BASED

>>21669405 (OP)
I merely have a disdain for culinary ignorance.

I dont care about them,, they dont concern me, but they make for shit partners and overall lazy people so i dont associate with them much

>>21669405 (OP)
I genuinely hate this person and fully believe the world is a worse place because they exist.

>>21669414
Too bad the post is 2 months old and the op deleted it. otherwise I'd make an account just to do this.

>>21671988
>Pre-Madonna
Well this was after Madonna, so...

Yes, they are completely worthless as people and I don't want them to be anywhere near me or impact my life in any way. The way you do one thing is how you do everything.

>>21669412
>i have a really short anus so everyone has a big dick to me

>>21669405 (OP)
is that... dumplings and mayonnaise?

>>21669405 (OP)
I don't look down on people willing to try and improve

>>21669405 (OP)
no because in a Charlie Kelly kinda way they are clever enough to survive

>>21670425
chilis gives you a knife and fork when you order a burger

>>21673557
Sour cream, which is popular in ex Soviet block countries. Might also be a thick yoghurt, that's something I've seen in Turkey.
At least I hope, that much mayo would be vile.

>>21671980
So does retardation.

>>21669871
Do easy and simple things first, then gradually build yourself up. You don't have to make a specific dish, even cooking a chicken breast with some seasoning and a couple of vegetables is a start.

>>21670213
I got banned from reddit for saying "tryna" isn't good English.

>>21669589
calling the picture attached to a post an avatar clearly shows you need to go back to ur social media and leave this anime forum.

>>21669405 (OP)
How are screencap threads from reddit not banned?
Atleast have the courtesy to just post it as if it were new here like the other faggots do

if they "cant cook" out of some irrational "fear" or laziness (hurr I can order doordash yummy sysco slop at a 300% upcharge oink oink), yeah
you deserve to be mocked, too, imagine being proud of failing basic human instincts, let me guess youre too lazy to pee too? lmao

>>21669519
me in the back watching and waiting for the lady to chop her index finger off

>>21674335
If they did that, an awful lot of right wing propagandists on /v/, /co/ and /pol/ would be out of a job. Please think of the propagandists. I'm sure some of them have families to feed.

>>21670213
yeah its fucking gay. its the reason why I’ve stuck around here for real advice. I’d rather endure random unprompted insults that come coupled with a real answer from experience than have some reddit fag shoot off a common knowledge answer on a topic they know nothing about for upvotes or give a useless quip to farm karma.

>>21670213
To be fair I totally agree with your overall point, but maybe let's try to avoid using slurs because that's not cool haha. Just a suggestion otherwise i thought your post was awesome! So take my (You) good sir!

>>21674703
I'm old, got any questions?

>>21674762
yeah why are my cream sauces always watery? I brown the shallot, reduce the brandy, add stock and reduce, then add cream and reduce and it always is too thin it seems.

>>21674766
Got a good fond in the pan?

>>21674776
maybe not a great amount but yeah I got some. Recipe didn’t call for flour so I didn’t think that would matter much for the thickness assuming I’m doing it right at all.

>>21674783
Well if you're in North America heavy cream must be 36 percent milk fat, which means most of it is exactly or just slightly over 36 percent
Whereas in Europe it's less regulated and can be 50-60+ percent milk fat
So if your recipe is European in origin, you might need to almost double the amount of cream and reduce it even more
You can sort of cheat with butter or egg yolk but that will change the color and flavor (though I like those flavors)
Egg yolks have to go in when it's all still cold

>>21674797
I’m american and its an american recipe. I did add butter. maybe I just gotta reduce it more and stop being a pussy but it always feels like I’m leaving it on the stove for too long. I’m doing like 20 minutes over the 3 setting on my stove.

>>21674800
of course thats not an exact number I’m just doing it till it “looks right” or I get anxious with how long its been over the heat

>>21674800
It always takes longer than the recipe says it will take, like how they always say brown the onions for 15 minutes that's a lie and we all know it

Oh and it's better on the thin side the thick side is unpleasant

>>21674807
>>21674808
appreciate the help I’ll try again tonight

>>21669405 (OP)
I look down on people who have been cooking for a long time but are somehow still incapable of doing something as simple as browning meat.

>>21669781
Slap their ass and say "you're raw meat. Now get cooking."

>>21669405 (OP)
>do you look down on people who can’t cook?
Yes

>>21670213
>Shit sandwich criticism
It's a terrible way to give someone feedback. Since the critique ends on a positive note, most people will think what they're doing is passable and will continue to make the same mistakes.

>>21669634
given that they described this as "boiling something" I assume they came in a bag

>>21669405 (OP)
Tbh yes
If you’re a fully grown adult and you struggle to do something as elemental as cooking premade pasta, I’d seriously question your ability to perform in any other area of your life

>>21669405 (OP)
No, I look down on cooks. It's fundamentally bitch work and everyone with the means throughout human history has made someone else do it whenever possible. It's practically universal that the kitchen is a place for servants not masters. The cook is only the cook because their time is less valuable than the others in the household and they can spend hours watching a pot or oven without being missed.

>>21669405 (OP)
>cooking phobia

>have a phone, smart TV with youtube tutorials right in the kitchen/dining room
>never actually cook anything
>buy a notebook and start writing down recipes i find on the internet or TV
>a lot more focused, learned to cook plenty of starter recipes and even make a few ingredient changes and improvs
Is it ADHD?

>>21676650
What? You boil homemade pierogis too, cooklet

>>21669405 (OP)
I look down upon everyone, but that's because I'm 6'3

>>21676839
sure but it's the easiest step you wouldn't describe the process of making pierogis as "boiling something"