Thread 149010834

Now that the dust has settled, was this episode correct in its verdict?

>>149010834 (OP)
I mean obviously not. Like unless your actively seething about Dragon Ball or have an Invincible agenda stuff like the Sun Disk being used to have Omni-Man win is wacky clown shit.

>>149010834 (OP)
From what I've been told no, but also you guys seem kinda dumb so i don't want to commit.

>>149010834 (OP)
The verdict was correct, the reasoning was insane.

>>149010834 (OP)
I feel like public opinion has slid further and further on this episode as time goes on. Not even the subreddit really defends it and they defend Kratosura.

Is it weird that as a Dragon Ball fan, I kinda hate Dragon Ball Death Battle episodes? I feel like powerscalers have kinda twisted the series in a way that somehow doesn't make sense even for a series with so much escalatory structure.

>>149010991
>feel like powerscalers have kinda twisted the series in a way that somehow doesn't make sense even for a series with so much escalatory structure.
blame super and that one movie with the cat

>>149010834 (OP)
how's elementary school going?

>>149011005
I'm more or less fine with universal times an amount, my issue is when people say shit like outerversal or x-dimensional.

>>149011016
amazing, ive already mastered cursive and solving for x. i've never even come close to a yellow card for bad behavior or missing homework either.

>>149011066
But what is x?

>>149011090
Whatever you want it to be

>>149010834 (OP)
So if the GDA was in a faction battle what would they be given exactly? Are the guardians counted as part of their ranks?

>>149011164
They are too incompetent even with all their resources.

>>149011016
i got suspended after bashing in another kid's face after he said mario would lose to SCPs

>>149011251
That kid got off lucky if you ask me

OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0

>>149010834 (OP)
Im a /dbs/ CHAD and I think the verdict was correct. The sun disk is pretty much as legit as any of Bardock's shit which is just being pulled from other characters anyway. Like his speed was complete bullshit but they gave Omni-Man SanDisk scsling so Bardock needed it to compete. I think if you go with on screen shit Bardock gets wasted by 1st form Freeza's planet busting attack putting Bardock below planet level. Like his attack didnt do shit. Omni-Man would also be way faster and could just grab Bardock and fling him into the sun before Bardock could react. Bardock should have been hurting Omni-Man more though but thats just an animation thing. Omni-Man throwing Bardock's energy blasts at the end should have atleast burned Omni-Man's gloves off. 8/10 fight.

>>149011005
Supreme Kai was such an annoying piece of shit during this. Every time he opened his mouth it was some bullshit or something that he was immediately wrong about.

Could Goku beat Superman in a no powered boxing match?

>>149012072
didn't he job to Harley in a boxing Match? But at the same time Goku never boxed

>>149011723
I know you're not a /DBS/fag or even a DCfag because you didn't post gay porn. Honestly giving bardock SSJ was stupid, he beat chilled who we don't know the power level of, he may or may not have been able to destroy the planet but he was claiming he could. I feel like people would've taken it alot better if they didn't give him SSJ. Also how is omni-man faster? does he have any notable speed feats?

>>149012448
>Also how is omni-man faster
Bardock has 0 real speed feats. Omni-Man can fly to another galaxy while making stops to look at stuff within a week. He also obliterated the surface of a planet with just his speed. They gave Bardock SSJ because Omni-Man got the sun disk. Again if you take the fight at compelte face value I still think Omni-Man wins just because he has a better showing overall. Bardock's best feat is his energy blast wiffing against a planet level attack and beats liek a fish guy with no real feats of his own.

>>149010834 (OP)
Absolutely

>>149012650
Just rewatched the post analysis, I can see Omni-man being faster but I still don't understand sundisk. from the analysis it looks like a ship destroys the disc. Like I said I can't see how SSJ Bardock loses because he if you take chilled's statement literally he's above planetary and Omni-man doesn't have a feat of that on his own. If it was Base I can definitely see him losing but the SSJ multiplier seems to big.

>>149012783
Its a giant disk that blocks a sun's light completely. Its larger than multiple planets and the laser used to obliterate it is said to be weaker than even base Viltumites. SSJ Bardock with the ability to blow up 100 planets wouldnt be enough to compete with that. Also Bardock has no real training in SSJ and he'd just be getting weaker and slower as the fight went on. Viltumites on the other hand can just keep going without getting weaker. I think the conclusion was correct if you include like absolute max wank for both which Death Battle seemed to do. Even let Bardock breathe in space when Blue Bejita died almost immediately when exposed to space.

>>149012941
Ok I understand the logic kind of, Lazer that destroy disc < Average Viltrumite. I still find Sun Disc having the durability of over 100 planets frankly absurd, That's like multiplying Roshi's moon feat with his power level at the time until it reached SSJ Bardocks Power level. This is my opinion Base Bardock Loses, SSJ Wins. Omni-man should've gotten speed and Bardock gets power.

>>149012941
The disk does not have to be that big. DB got the planet being ridiculously huge from the fact Omni-Man struggled with the gravity of the Rognarr planet, but was fine with the gravity of a black hole, in the cartoon, and then scaled it to the comics.

>>149013110
Im not gonna a lie I dont think Bardock is physically stronger even if you dont believe the sun disk stuff. Base Goku during Buu could hardly lift 40 tons and ssj Bejita could lift 1000 tons. Omni-Man does that shit casually. That mix with speed would just allow Omni-Man to grab Bardock and throw him into the sun. Bardock couldnt physically counter Omni-Man and he'd be way to slow to hit him with an energy blast. Omni-Man could probably just fucking charge into full Power ssj Bardock and turn him into a red mist because Bardock wouldnt be able to guard. Keep in kind Dragon Ball characters need to be able to actuslly pull their ki up to take hits. Omni-Man could easily just full speed charge Bardock and obliterate him because his base durability is below a tiny laser as seen by Goku getting taken out by one. Im am much more of a Dragon Ball guy personally. I think if we take this shit at complete face value without the scaling to other characters or sun disk bullshit Omni-Man wins because of his superior physical power and speed. Also again Bardock wouldnt be able to hold SSJ for very long and he'd be constantly losing power while using it. Remember Bardock doesnt have perfect Super Saiyan like Goku during Cell. Hes also much weaker than base Goku when he fought Final Form Freeza. I just dont see it working out for him. He cant even nuke the planet and kill Omni-Man because he can survive in space and move faster than the explosion.

>>149013232
>anti-feats
come on dude, that's like me saying Bardock throws a KI blast and Omni-man fucking dies because invincible variants died to building level bombs and yo-yos. We have never seen a viltrumite tank a Yo-yo so Bardock could use his tail to hang Omniman

>>149013271
A few things. Speed matters in this fight alot. Dragon Ball characters need to be able to actuslly guard against attacks to effectively take them. Bardock would be fighting someone physically stronger than him and way fucking faster. Like Bardock wouldnt even be able to perceive Omni-Man he'd be so much faster. So once the bullshit is over Omni-Man just fly at max speed towards Bardock splitting Bardock completely in half or even just turning his body into a red mist. He wouldnt be able to guard against the attack and wouldnt even see it coming. Bardock cant even sense energy like Goku. He's just kinda fucked without many options to actuslly kill Omni-Man. His energy blasts can only do so much and Omni-Man can just fly into space to avoid them need be.

>>149013453
Good thing you could say the same of where Death Battle had their stats, then

>>149013453
I now know you are baiting but Strength matters alot in this fight, that speed is useless if your opponent is too strong. At that point Omni man is an overgrown fly and if Bardock gets 1 stray hit Omniman explodes. It's fucked up how many ways Bardock can can kill Omni-man either by punching him or using is tail

>>149011447
you forgot your name, namefag

>>149013232
NTA but I basically viewed it as:

>Omniman thrashes in terms of raw physical strength (see Goku getting ragdoll'd physically by Broly, they aren't great in terms of hard physical stuff and are more ki and energy power)
>Bardock has a sizable edge in overall "AP" with ki stuff
>Omniman should be faster barring weird early Dragonball stuff where they are FTE at lower tiers that aren't really reflected later for the most part. Even then Omniman is still pretty fast and not just in a travel speed in space way.
>Omniman can potentially take advantage of Bardock's tail weakness or drag him to space.

The sun disc, making Bardock a gorrillion times FTL and multiple times faster than Omniman by extension because of Goku filler, and having Bardock beat Super Saiyan in the animation was retarded though. Super Saiyan should have raped though I am pretty sure it was just for flavor and wasn't what they actually used?

>>149013700
Most of Omni-Man's speed feats barring the space travel stuff or anything that doesn't involve him traveling in a straight line really quickly like the Flaxan feat in the cartoon (which still took him a year to destroy, btw) are pretty bad.
Red Rush who's not even supersonic blitzes him and Viltrumites' main weakness is literal sound. Not to say Dragon Ball doesn't have it's own retarded antifeats but at least you'll see Roshi catching every bullet from a machine gun or something, almost nothing like that ever happens in Invincible.

Honestly I think I can kill a viltrumite, I'm not a yo-yo pro but I can tie a noose

Well, I guess we're here now.

We are refugees from another destroyed timeline...

What the actual fuck was last thread?

>>149015637
>>149015640
>>149015643
What kind of OUTERVERSAL BOUNDLESS BEAST could have destroyed the last thread?

>>149015655
warrior-'p

>>149015643
Unironic schizo-posting over a sharty, powerscaling lolcow because of oh no schizo. I'll admit I laughed a bit
>>149015655
Silencing Warrior-Z wasn't enough, Jannies had to kill the whole thread

>>149015676
Touhoubro...

>>149015676
Touhouverse...

Soon GODperCHADS!!! SLURPza will job again.

>>149015673
>Unironic shizo [STUFF I HAVE MADE UP]
get out

>>149015699
Kek.

When will these two unstoppable BEASTS meet in Death Battle?

>

>>149015744
Listroon-tier match

>>149015744
so what's stopping Jason from just using his supernatural shit to win besides Yujiro "being him"?

>>149015699
Hop on vc with Z, pussy, scared he'd low diff you in a debate?

>>149015655
Maxwell Lord and his pathetic projection toward CHAD CHADner got exposed

So any predictions for Tom's preview? You guys think Gacha will be mentioned tomorrow or saved for the full episode? I would assume they would mention the meteor busting feat.

>>149015821
GUYBROS EMERGENCY MEETING NOW!!!

Name a better match up for him than Asura

>>149015924
Donte
now Greek Kratos on the other hand can fight Dante

>>149015605
Do they count crossovers like Smash Bros as part of the canon? Because that would be insane, you'd get low level people like Olimar scaling up to Bayonetta if that was the case which is beyond retarded.

But if we're counting gacha games then in terms of FEH Marth doesn't really have a main role in the game, it centers largely around OC Donut Steels, not the actual characters of the series. So it also feels kinda cheap to give him that kind of scaling just by existing there.

Which would also count for Elwin's mobile game too where he gets crazy cross overs and has the mainline story go into silly directions. They have crossovers all the time with random ass anime and games like Overlord, YuYu Hakusho, Trails, Dead or Alive, Valkirya Chronicals, Gintama, Slayers, and mother fucking Guyver of all things.

I would say just sticking with mainline games is a safer bet, but I'm sure lots of fans want them to take into account the gacha games. I mean it would be pretty fun but it it's bound to make the outcome seem like bullshit when either one of them pulls out some feat where they fought a god in a mobile game so they get the win.

>>149015924
Dante.
The other Dante.
Doom Slayer
Wonder Woman
Marvel Thor
Pit/Kid Icarus
He loses every single one of these btw

>>149015942
Not that anon but isn't Heroes (unfortunately) canon because of engage? Even then most people would probably use their mainline version

>>149010834 (OP)
By their own fucking admission, Bardock, WITHOUT SUPER SAIYAN, was thousands of times faster.

How the fuck. Is Homelander Plus over here, gonna catch him to deliver his "One third of a planet busting punch" When this mustache nigger doesn't even have any ranged options and is literally the definition of a flying brick with no tricks up his sleeve?

They really think experience matters when someone blitzes you that fast lmao. Yeah, try fighting someone with reflexes 1.5x faster than yours irl. You get washed.

>>149015968
Saint Seiya as well.

>>149015790
kratos lost lol

>>149015980
Bardock being faster was fucking retarded considering it was scaling him to Goku flying a ship.
Nolan is the faster one. Hands-down.
He can’t out-fight Super Saiyan, but given it has a time limit, he can more than likely out-last it.

>>149016050
That scaling made perfect sense idk why people complain about it.

>>149016050
>considering it was scaling him to Goku flying a ship
They didn't. They scaled him to being able to react and dodge meteors while being on the surface of the ship while the ship was moving.

>>149016050
Back when we thought Nolan had the speed advantage someone suggested he blindsides Bardock, grabs him the back of the head, and rams him through a planet using him as a shield

ENTER

>>149015978
I'm pretty sure that is the case, but I haven't played it so I don't know for sure. But we'll probably see with Wile vs Tom if they want to delve into the gacha game department.

Feels like a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation because some people would like that, while others would call it fake and gay and a cheap way to win. I think the safest bet is to stick to the main games. But in Dimitri vs Guts they let Dimitri have Three Hopes which is a Dynasty Warriors side game, so it's kind of hard to say.

I'm only familiar with Langrisser Mobile and FEH so I can say I would probably not want them to consider that in their calculation because those games love alternate timeline multiverse bullshit.

>>149010834 (OP)
Unironically yes the verdict was correct, it's just the explanation they gave was pants-off retarded
>>149010935
That's to be expected; Omni-Man fans are magnitudes less militant about wanking their character than Kratosfags are, and DBfags are notoriously some of the most autistic about making their characters "win" VS debates. Even though it is true that the explanation they gave for Kratos winning was somehow even more retarded than the explanation they gave for Omni-Man winning

Who's the weakest super genius who could solve Godzilla Ultima's equation before dying?

>>149016185
Adult Godzilland Godzilla

>>149010834 (OP)
The only reason they did this fight is because current Bejita shitstomps Nolan hard. Nolan ans Bejita are basically the same person and the connections are much better.

>>149016030
DEBUNKED
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15hZf36ZKdvP4KiTTPaVDBUxWGi_738Er6rZYU1sFleM/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.7fzk6cabm37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWmWmZ9v0Nw

>>149016185
pity win banner

>>149016231
>thinks i want gayshitta to win
rofl

>>149016185
Im wondering if they will give composite Godzilla the math weakness? Could be an intersting way for Hulk to win.

>>149016204
Actually, Bardock vs Nolan became a thing because people hated Homelander vs Omni-Man THAT much (this was before it got an episode)

>>149015655
Reimu got mildly annoyed

>>149016205
As an Asurabro I can't read all of that. Can you put all that information into a tiktok or youtube short?

>>149016204
Could have been GT Bejita with the mustache too.

Again, I want to point out, for the image on the patreon/kickstarter, it wasn't Godzilla Ultimate, it's the shit cgi one from America.

yabba...

>>149016251
I honestly don't see Ultima being used because it's too far different to be composited and by all accounts the novelization is "untranslatable" because you'd need to not only know Japanese but also have a math degree to understand it.
Ultima will likely be black tabbed but I've grown to like the idea that Hulk wins because Banner, Professor Hulk, and Doc Green pull through with the math

>>149016204
Would be kinda hilarious to see a manlet such as Vegeta just beating the shit out of Nolan.

>>149015676
Reimu...

>>149016293
...posting is dead

>>149015676
Marvel and DC...

>>149016294
so are they using the gay mayh godshilla or not?

>>149015676
The entire Fate series…. .. Umineko….. .. .God of War….

>>149016050
How many times does Omni Man ever bother dodging, though? He usually just facetanks everything even if he's faster than whoever he's fighting.

>>149016380
We don't know
Ben brought up Ultima in Death Battle Cast but anyone who takes Death Battle Cast seriously is retarded
If Archie Sonic can't be composited, why would Godzilla Ultima be?

Could Bowser vs Eggman be considered the most positively received Death Battle ever?

>>149016481
no

>>149016481
My DICK in your MOM is the most positively received sex tape ever

Why is Godzilla always the Top DOG in every media he's in? Every crossover, every elseworld, universe, and so on?

Kratos is sharp-rock level.

>>149010834 (OP)
Okay, I always thought wally vs archie sonic was bullshit, but if this is true maybe wally wins after all

Reminder, the strongest feat would lose to the weakest toon force

>>149016511
Because Godzilla being depicted as fodder would be outright strange.

>>149016111
Pop Quiz for ya, Anon;
You are sitting down right now at your computer. You are not moving. But the Earth itself is moving at 67,000 mph around the sun and rotating at 1,000 mph.
So, if someone tosses a ball at you, how fast is the ball going?
A: 1,000 mph
B: 67,000 mph
C: 5 mph

If you answered C, then congrats! You pass elementary physics, and are definitively smarter than a Powerscaler!

>>149015773
What could Jason possibly do? His supernatural shit will just allow him to return after the battle has ended. Maybe you'll wank him with that comic panel of him regenerating in seconds, but even then Yujiro could just take his head or something.

When?

>>149016534
No I mean, he's big money and everything

>>149016549
There's literally no thematic connection past memes

>>149016560
There's plenty

>>149016549
Sans is for Freddy.

>>149016576
Then list them

>>149016532
Yup, Gear 5 Luffy dogwalks fiction.

>>149016589
>RPG Protagonists
Both Ness and Sans are main characters in their respective RPGs.
>Psychic Powers
Both are depicted as having telekinetic/psychic abilities.
>Battling Evil
They both face significant threats within their stories, with Ness battling Giygas in EarthBound and Sans confronting the player character in Undertale during a Genocide run.
>Surprising Power
Despite their initial appearance (Ness's child-like appearance, Sans's relaxed demeanor), both possess significant strength when necessary.
>Connection to Undertale's Inspiration
Undertale's creator, Toby Fox, was heavily inspired by Earthbound, and Sans's boss theme, MEGALOVANIA, originated from an Earthbound mod created by Toby Fox.

>>149016519
Is this new by any chance

>>149016532
Post any toonforce user destroying an universe

>>149016601
>Animucuk trying to latch onto his western TOONCHAD betters

>>149016613
Bro, Ness has more in common than the purple pony from the horse show.

>>149016628
ok

>>149016668
1. Beaten by Simon
2. That is a galaxy

>>149016656
>Minds constantly on gay horse shit
Not my problem "bro".

>>149016628
https://youtu.be/B7U_HNiMCQw?feature=shared
Fatesissies…. I am scared of the SpongeBob BEAST

>>149016613
>RPG Protagonists
Sans is an NPC who plays an entirely different role in his game than Ness does in his own.
>Psychic Powers
A vague description like this is the only way that their powers could be considered remotely similar.
>Battling Evil
Is that all it really takes for these two to be considered similar?
>Surprising Power
Only for Sans. Ness being the main protagonist makes him gaining powers seem like an obvious turn of events.

By your logic, Sans should realistically fight fucking Mewtwo.

>>149016542
Better example would be if I tied you to a moving plane and I tossed a ball at you, would you be able to dodge it? Probably not.

>>149016668
>>149016707
>>149016686
>"universe" that looks like a galaxy
HMMMM SEEMS PRETTY FAMILIAR
YEET

BEASTS

>>149016628
https://imgur.com/a/darkness-feat-iWFJyHu

Tom won

>>149016711
Mewtwo does not fight evil and has no surprising power. Done.

>>149016742
People bring up this feat but it's not something either character can just do
It's very circumstantial given both were technically amped

>>149016744
....that comes from the xianxia gacha, you know, the genre full with featsman?

>>149016746
Mewtwo blew up team rocket labs and has fought other more antagonistic Pokemon in other media (Deoxys in a manga, Genesect in their titular anime film).
For surprising powers, he has two mega evolutions when almost every other Pokemon only has one, and he also has a GIANT SPOON.

>>149016753
just a speed amp and a speed de-amp, nothing implies they got a durability upgrade and they later survived recreating the universe with their transphobic God

>>149016797
>transphobic God
what?

>>149016793
>Mewtwo blew up team rocket labs
Because they imprisoned him, not because he was evil. Done.
>Deoxys in a manga, Genesect in their titular anime film).
Not evil. Misguided. Done.
>For surprising powers, he has two mega evolutions when almost every other Pokemon only has one
KINGrizard. Done, done, and DONE.

>>149016845
creator of earthworm jim

>>149016855
I know that rocket/the other 'Mons aren't evil, it's just that they could be considered evil through mental gymnastics, the same way that Ness vs Sans can only make sense through similar efforts.

>>149016845
The Great Worm Spirit is God in Earthworm Jim and his true form is that of Doug TenNapel, Earthworm Jim's transphobic creator
the feat of him, Jim, and Psy Crow surviving the recreation of the universe would count as a Transphobic Feat

>>149016994
actually fucking hilarious

>>149016994
>transphobic feat
we've finally found a tier even above feats itself

>>149016939
>I hate this beloved legacy matchup that has been requested thousands of times because...well...I just do, okay?

>>149016855
Mewtwo was fighting to save 'mon from slavery, yup that is fighting evil.

>>149017113
>'mon
Kys yawnfag.

>>149017099
I've explained myself in detail already. Also, there's no legacy to it beyond a horrendously outdated MatPat video.

>muh multioutercomplexlowermultigigaversal
BORING

post street level matchups

>>149017199
>I explained myself using arguments I knew were bad
Yup yup.
>Also, there's no legacy to it except for [the legacy to it]
YUP YUP.

>>149017203
doesn't DOA get to universal thanks to Ninja Gaiden 3

>>149017231
The "legacy" stands on its own two feet as its own strange little thing. Making a death battle out of it feels redundant and unreasonable. It's an even more irrelevant idea than among us vs fall guys.

>>149017231
His' arguments are great. Mewtwo fought to save the mons from tyranny and slavery. A similar feat to Sans fighting to protect monsters (abbreviated: 'mons) from Frisk but only when he's being real annoying otherwise he lets that go.
>>149017153
???

I LOVE FAST CHARACTERS THEYRE SO FUARKING STRONG

>>149017314
Speaking of fast, who'll Pucci fight?

>>149017272
Frisk wasn't trying to enslave monsterkind. Done.

>>149017327
someone unrelated to speed

>>149017332
But he's trying to KILL them. He SPARES no one. That is tyranny.

>>149017343
tyr·an·ny
/ˈtirənē/
noun
cruel and oppressive government or rule.
"people who survive war and escape tyranny"

Frisk is not a government. Done.

>>149017353
Who gives a fuck? Sans is guaranteed to fight Judge anyway. There's no point bitching about matchups that'll obviously never happen.

I won.

>>149017353
>an autocratic form of rule in which one individual exercised power without any legal restraint. - britannica
>“Any sole ruler, who is not required to give an account of himself, and who rules over subjects all equal or superior to himself to suit his own interest and not theirs, can only be exercising a tyranny.” - Aristotle
Yup. Frisk holds so much power by the end of the run he may well be the tyrant of the land. This is why he lets Frisk go otherwise, Frisk decides he doesn't care that much about the land and doesn't become the ultimate tyrant even though he's full of evil.

>>149017409
Congratulations! What's next, champ?

who wins?

>>149017374
The undertale MU will be te princess folding the fag flower in half

>>149017466
>Frisk holds so much power by the end of the run he may well be the tyrant of the land
But they aren't. In fact they just destroy the world. So there's nothing to rule. DONE.

>>149017619
Ness and Sans solo cuz I don't know about these guys

>>149017648
Cthulhu from Cthulhu Saves The World and Batter from OFF

>>149017632
The act of destroying the world marks xir as a tyrant retroactively. That's how it'll go down in the history books. "The tyrannical ruler Frisk reigned from [beginning of the game] until he killed all his subjects. The tyrannical rule ended once there were no more subjects and everyone died."

>>149013271
Just another victory for the King of Games

>>149017698
...the history books no one has written since the world was destroyed. DONE.

>>149017774
Story books written by the xeleee, btw. Forgot to mention that

>>149016519
>He moved so fast he left the story
Are power scalers retarded enough to think this is real...or even mean anything?

I won a Death Battle... I may be a complete fraud who was wanked, but I WON!

This thread is about nothing

>>149017869
This thread is about the Ass VOID!!!! And how dipshits like you belong in it alongside the kaijufags!!!!!

Screencap this!!! Hulk will win and CHUDzilla will die!!! I give him the power of the Ass Void to win!!!

>NikoNIGGER
Jiren victim.

>>149017886
SHOW THEM!

>>149010834 (OP)
I gotta go to work in 4 hours but have been up all night shitposting

>>149017819
Good job, Simon!

>>149017819
Simon.....

>>149017819
Kratos...

>>149017819
Thor….

>>149016542
Anon, he was standing on a spaceship going FTL in the vacuum of space. The meteors wouldn't be in his frame of reference, from his perspective they'd be projectiles going towards him at the same speed he's moving. It's a stupid scene but it pretty much has to be him reacting at FTL speeds, unless the random space meteors happen to also be moving FTL in the exact same direction as him. Or to use an analogy, it would be like if you were standing on top of a train and had to dodge an incoming bridge.

>>149017955
...Victim. Kyle!
>inb4. B-but
Post kyle destroying a galaxy

>>149011005
Wtf are you talking about? The BoG movie doesn't have any notable feats. It's the manga and then anime versions that did that. You're also implying Super introduced universal shit to DB but that's utter nonsense as well.
>Z Manga
Repeatedly stated Majin Buu would destroy the entire universe.
>Z Anime
Literally outright stated Buuhan was going to destroy the universe by tearing apart dimensional walls, forcing Vegito to stop him.
>GT
Omega Shenron's attack was actively breaking apart and destroying the entire universe.

>>149016256
Can't even scale or overcome these two goblins of chaos

>>149015924
Maybe savage hulk

>>149016156
Superman warm up fodder

>>149012072
Superman knows how to box. Goku could compete, but he might accidentally break a rule. If you demonstrated a boxing match first, Goku would understand and outbox Clark.
Even setting aside powers, Goku has better toughness in the face of injury with him able to hang on to consciousness even after having his arms and legs disabled by Piccolo Jr.
Admittedly I might be wrong. Superman has a long history, so he might have some insane demonstration of toughness outside of his biology.
If that's the case, then Clark has the weight and height advantage over Goku and his amount of actual experience in the style will tip things into his favor akin to how Jackie Chun/Roshi beat Goku by forcing a cross counter that only he would win from reach.

>>149016185
The Doctor

Who's the dumbest person who could Godzilla Ultima's equation before dying?

>>149016628
https://youtu.be/xxPRocenI1s?si=N_JX6ttqEMNSVjp2&t=90

>>149016519
>in before Sonic has already done this and even wrote the plot with the writer

>>149016668
>>149016686
>>149016738
>Spongbob confirmed ttgl killer

>>149018256
>Pic related, two Simon victims

Name a good match up for him

>>149018271
>Bobosissy confirmed illiterate

>>149010834 (OP)
One of the issues I have with this fight is giving Nolan the experience advantage just because he's older. He and basically every Viltrumite character fight with exceedingly simple techniques. They use their status as the overwhelmingly strong big dogs in their own setting to just smash through things.
When forced to actually fight someone, they do have the toughness advantage but their stamina is kinda ass... or at least it is if you consider them to have such high super speed in close quarters combat.

>>149018265
Simonbros,…. Are we Simpson Aliens victim?…

>>149017934
>>149017955

>>149018271
Vocaroo yourself pronouncing " Boboboobo Boobobo"

>>149018273
....to Supermans boredom and disinterested in inferior anime like Simon and Ttgl

>>149018284
Nah Simon is weak

>>149018289
>boredom and disinterest
>the state of dc comics in the last 30 out of nowhere

>>149018271
Here's Bobobo using the power of the infinite universe

>>149018298
Wrong scan I presume, delete-kun.

>>149017819
Statementmon...

>>149018291
…I sat through tears of delusion

>>149017869
Embracing blasphemy against the light of Touhou has lead to moral and intellectual degeneration, as TouhouSCHOLARS predicted.

>>149018306
...because I'm a Simonkek and was told to sit down by my betters.

>>149018263
Probably some sentient supercomputer who can calculate extreme quickly but isn't themselves that smart. Solving Ultima can ultimately be brute-forced, you just need ridiculous computational capacity because it's an NP problem.

My d&d wizard can carry around Bags of Holding (which contain their own demiplane), send peole to an extradimensional labyrinth with Maze, create his own universe with Genesis and travel trough the bulk space in which planes are embedded, the Astral Plane. He also has resistance to everything thanks to his high saving throws.

>>149018321
Top tier TTRPG shit is so goofy it kinda reminds me of xianxia with all of his haxes, and layered shit.

>>149017819
Everyone is aware of it Gojo

>>149018246
These two unironically solo my verse...

>>149018310
>KyleBITCH melty

>>149018289
TTGL >>> WL Kyle > Ion Kyle >> Superman

It's not even debatable.

>>149018381
DCbros…

Mario is MFTL

I miss the waiting period for GvS3. It was fun.

>>149018628
I love it when companies do this with their characters.

>>149018628
SOVL. Nu-shonen simply can't compare.

>>149018628
Where’s Yuji and Izuku?

>>149018653
They're the carpet.

>>149018628
CHADnen.

>>149018558
A motherfucking turbo loser? We know.

>>149018628
come up with MUs for these NOW

>>149018650
Zombie dragon ball IS nushonen.

>>149017064
KEK

>>149018628
SOVLnen.

>>149018671
Not even close.

>>149016753
So it's similar to what Invader Zim did in his comic? Kinda makes me thing Invader Zim vs Earthworm Jim is a good match up.

>>149018669
Superman
Ryu
Jin Mori

>>149018679
Sorry but it's true

>>149018698
Objectively untrue. Most of nu-shonen is set in japan and actively is borrowing a lot of elementa from Bleach. Dragon Ball is still written mostly the same.

Invader Zim is an actual multiversal character.

>>149018597
My favorite waiting period is still Ben vs Hal. The hopium in the air was real.

>>149018715
Current dragon ball is shitty fanfiction tier but I wouldn't expect you to know better

>>149018752
There were still many anons who knew how it would play out. I still remember the one scan that used to be posted here to crash Ben 10's fans expectations down to the ground.

>>149018597
You didn't miss much, it's the same 5 stage cycle.

Talk shit
Get ass beat
"Debunk" content farming
Compromise
Ask for a rematch

>>149018754
>no argument
Yup.

>>149018304
>pokemon out of nowhere

>>149018781
Enjoy Toyo's current crap dump zoomie

Why do Dragon Ball fans keep embarrassing themselves?

>>149018807
>>149018809
NTA but Have faith in torishima, he gave us cell after all

>>149018809
>posting this when Kishi and Ikemoto traced Toriyama
Kek.

>>149018809
Toriyama is dead. Have some respect please.

>>149018807
>>149018809
Torishima will unironically save Dragon Ball again.

I should redo this one
Kazuya Mishima vs Albert Wesker

>>149018817
These are homages. Ikemoto respects Toriyama.
Toyotaro just traces his work.

>>149018817
Madara vs Hashirama

>>149018835
Uh. That's outside help. Ultron wouldn't be allowed to come to the fight with that homosexual inside of him.

>>149018836
That was actually traced from Guyver, believe it or not.

>>149018650
Daily reminder that the purple guy from FNAF World can beat DBS Goku.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-saiyan-behind-the-slaughter-grace.125425/

>>149018840
Pretty sure he is that homosexual

>>149018836
>something Wukong did first
Yup.

>>149018821
Sure

>>149018835
Intersting matchup. Am would have full control of the planet. Ultron could maybe phase into Am's main core and shut him off? Ultron might be able to just destroy the planet itself.

>>149010834 (OP)
Do they even do research at this point? I feel like someone behind the scenes is just picking their favorite to win and telling everyone else to make it happen. What's the point if you ignore the source material?

>KEKkemoto seething because SUCCESSORtaro was picked
Keky. Always funny.

>>149018857
Toyble really just needed to take an anatomy class. Its a shame he was to busy painting his nails.

>

>>149018878
Toyble is stepping down from Dragon Ball and working on an original Manga with Toriyama's old editor.

>>149018878
What the fuck? Kek.

>>149018876
Yes, it's just that they fell for the high stats = good research meme

>>149018888
That was debunked by Japan Expo themselves.

>>149018880
He's also lazy

>>149018895
>That ugly ass goblin Gohan
Dame we were so close to a new mangaka.

How embarrassing

>>149018895
>Torishima
>was shitting on Daima and Shueisha
>helping Toyo
Based.

>>149018853
He isn't. That's Vision. That's the same as allowing Goku Black to turn into meged Zamasu.

So why do Invincible scalers get so up in arms about Dragon Ball scaling? Dragon Ball's unitary power system and story structure makes direct comparisons a lot more reasonable than some fictions.

>>149018895
With Toriyama dead, we will finally go past EoZ.

Also I'm pretty sure the infinity stones aren't part of Ultron's inventory. And in most cartoons he gets them, they require Thanos to show up.

Why is there no Dragon Ball: Vegeta Gaiden?

>>149018780
Literally what does any of that have to do with the original post you schizo tranny?

>>149018931
Only women like Vegeta.

>>149018847
You mean a version of the character that is totally disconnected from any and all of his characterization?

>>149018932
>Ad hominem

>>149018924
Agenda I guess, lately is hard to tell if they actually like invincible or if they have an anti-dragonball agenda

>>149018895
>July 6th
>Super anime started airing on July 5th
>10 anniversary of Super anime and manga
Give me a remake of Super.

>>149018930
Who cares when base Ultron ragdolls AM anyway

>>149018949
>Schizo melty

Every time Archie gets requested it's always a Sonic matchup. Are there any good matchups for Archie Mega Man characters?

Daima is just GT 2
Toyo is a tracing hack
Sparking Zero is a Zero/10 game
Kakumei and Tale are only fan projects
New DB game is MOBA slop

>Dragon Ball
>DC
>Marvel
The three zombie franchises which keep going well past the point they should have died have finally arrived....

>>149010834 (OP)
Fuck no. It is literally part of the story that Nolan is not star level.
Motherfucker would have died on impact on a object that needed to be destabilized and even then needed his literal 3x equal to destroy.


Now gimme a good MU for Sakura Kasugano.

>>149018969
How does he Ragdoll something without a body? What's stopping Am from just trapping Ultron in a fake universe?

>>149019041
The one I see the most often is Videl

>>149018831
Kazuya is for Iori.

Albert has nothing to do with cursed blood.

>>149019027
DIOS MIO........Americans FUCK THAT!!!??

>>149019041
Jubilee?

>>149019058
Id love if their episode starts by just saying Videl's only feat is punching spopovich while Sakura easily scales above that with being able to beat up Zangief and being equal to Karin, who beat up a Shadaloo Doll in SFV, who kept up with base Ken.

and on the spot, change them both to composites, so videl now scales to fucking Broly and Sakura scales to MVC and Namco x Capcom.

>>149019074
Mmm, ive seen them on art together, do they have anything in common aside of being cute?

>>149018969
I don't know anything about that but Ultron is actually a massive jobber just like Dormammu. You remember the Heist episode from Rick and Morty? It was based on him and his retardation.

>>149018945
Yes. Goku is hax fodder.

>>149019027
While dc has???

>>149019049
Ultron takes him over and shuts him down.

>>149019098
That Heist robot stil entire planets’ resources. That’s way above AM

>>149018847
>>149018945
>>149019099
You are using a non canon, game version of a literal normal man that only kills other normal men.

Like no fucking shit they are broken.

now how does SDH Goku compare to this purple man, i wonder.

dimensional domain gg

>>149019088
I think it's just a general personality and aesthetic comparison, they're both cool peppy teenage girl sidekicks with a 90s arcade theming who end up growing up without losing their personality, plus Marvel vs Capcom. They also both have a kind of hidden mega power that rarely manifests.

>>149019123
Mmm, that works as an alt to Videl.
Videl kinda works as a sequel to Satan vs Dan too and both look up to the main character (Gohan kinda was the MC until Goku showed up again tbf)

Kneel....

>>149019132
>lgtb+ ally

gay

>>149019116
If AM is able to exploit Ultron's program, like giving him a paradox for him to spend some time on, it will make him ramble uncontrolably even if for some seconds. If AM is able to hack the guy and then reach his turn off button and defeat him the way he always gets defeated.

Post your hero getting letters like this.

Super is the biggest anime event
Dragon Ball Heroes made everyone outerveral
Fighterz is best fighter ever
Inspired Kakumei and Tale
Toriyama still alive

>>149019158
>only 100 people max have ever looked up dragon ball
It's so fucking over.

>>149018956
Agendaposting has got to be the worst to hit the battleboarding scene since cosmology wank.

>>149019027
Kakumei totally misses the point of Dragon Ball.

>>149019186
So did Z but people liked it

>>149019178
To be fair it can be funny but it quickly gets annoying when everyone has anti-feats / pathetic moments

>>149019027
>Kakumei
No.

>>149019142
Hacking into Ultron is a suicidal move.

Bring me Akuma.

>>149019142
Ultron doesn’t have an off button in any modern appearances save for appararmsced in cartoons

It’s as smart as Hank Pym.

Daima its the litmus test to see if people actually like dragon ball outside of the "violent shouting fightin show"

if anyone says that they only liked it once Goku turned into an adult again, they are fake fans.

>>149018220
Its just funny to me that people see characters saying this shit and get all hype instead of groaning at an author just writing down whatever desperately trying to maintain meaningful stakes in a manga/anime that's long since run out of gas

>>149019209
guy cannot even handle evil Sakura

>>149019212
That the thing.

Dragon ball fans that like adventure/the silly antics and toriyama humor and it just for the rock the dragon/violent shouting show both buy and watch dragon ball.

neither people that get or do not really get superman actually buy his comic books.

>>149019217
>Sakura
Crazy sex now

>>149019217
Evil Sakura can't even beat Shippuden Sakura.

>>149011164
cecil is such a cool and underutilized name

>>149019230
Are people still requesting Amy vs Naruto Sakura or have they finally moved on from that?

>>149019217
>Woman
NOT a warrior or made for battle.
https://files.catbox.moe/2s2uw4.webm

>>149019230
Evil Sakura is from MVC/Udon comics, so Naruto Sakura gets eaten alive.

>>149019122
>You are using a non canon, game version of a literal normal man that only kills other normal men.
The fact that any version of him can beat Goku is funny. And last time I checked, SDH Goku still has no defense against transmutation.

>>149016628
Control Freak cancelled the original Teen Titans show.

>>149019197
Being in the middle of reading through Dragon Ball, I have to disagree. Toriyama basically threw whatever he wanted at the wall each arc.

>>149019240
>https://files.catbox.moe/2s2uw4.webm
Poor Mamiya

>>149019246
His defense is dimensional domain and being immessurable.
So get fucked.

>>149019212
I liked most of it aside from the giant episode if only because its placement felt weird.

Women? Only good for making more STRONG men!!! Not for battle.

So I'd he officially the most powerful db character?

>>149019255
There were no women involved in the creation of that Devil. Only gods.

>misogyny
Exit.

>>149019267
I'd love my shoulders rubbed, thanks!

>>149019264
Well, Galactus was like infinite dimensional on his episode.

>>149019265
Mmmm.... mpreg........

>>149019265
>>149019255
Its pegging time.

>>149019280
>jobbed to CHADren
>jobbed to BEASThan

What was the worst canonical powerscaling violation? Like, all the fans agreed that one character is continent level and the other wall level, but then the actual author has them fight and the wall level character stomps?

Enough. Prepare to be smothered by my giant hairy balls.

>>149019249
If he immeasurable , how can they use a measurable amount of magic to turn him into a kid?

>>149019299
Pretty much everything in late-stage Dragon Ball Super.

>>149019299
Isn't Batman vs Superman pretty common, albeit when that happens its usually AUs.

>>149019240
Which girls used in death battle actually pass the "warrior" test? (i.e. don't feel shame if their clothes were to be destroyed, just keep fighting anyway)

>>149019214
>Sci-Fi setting
>Establishes the cosmos by having the characters travel across it
>Introduce characters across numerous worlds that fans develop an affection or care for
>Establish that there is a cosmological threat that would risk every person in existence, literally every single character you could care about throughout the entire cosmos and that if they fail that's it, everything is doomed and it can't be fixed.
>Somehow this is a 'desperate attempt to maintain meaningful stakes'
It's a basic apocalyptic crisis but on a cosmological scale because the setting is on a cosmological scale. Try saying something actually intelligent next time.

>>149019207
>>149019210
And that's fine and all. But nowadays Death Battle would look at the many ways he was defeated in the past, cartoons or comics. And it's always because somone programed something inside of him, a failsafe or another AI, and that always ends up with him fucked.

>>149019339
Next arc Lizardboy......YOU ARE DONE!!

>>149019310
Fine, moron.
If you just want to ignore the absurd speed gap and Goku's own passive hax, then i will shit on your transmutation wincon too.

>>149019214
>manga/anime that's long since run out of gas
>the highest earner for Bamco, Shueisha and Toei with minimal content
I don't think you know what run out of gas means.

>>149019336
Esdeath, Diana, Bayo, Makima.

>>149019346
TRY ME MUTTBOY!

Yo

>>149019122
>>149019249
>>149019351
Listtroon you retard why are you using fucking Heroes when that shit wasn't used in the fight? might as well make a thread for the fight on the site instead of here like a retard

>>149019135
Isn't Thor's best friend gay?

>>149012732
>>149011783
Damn… MY HEROES ARE WORRIED BECAUSE OF THEIR BASIC STRENGTH DESTROYING THEM WITH EASE!!!

>>149019393
Who you calling listroon

this moron is saying that its fair to use non canon purple guy against canon Goku.

>>149019345
AM can't hack something on Ultron's level. The Phalanx tried and he took over their entire galactic network. AM is turning himself into an Ultron copy if tries.

>>149019394
Who? None of the Warrior's Three are gay, same with Beta Ray Bill. Do you mean Loki?

>>149019249
>>149019246
Of course, SDH Goke would beat Purple Guy when he's in another tier of power. How about you put SDh Goku against a real opponent?

>>149019404
>use of moron
>Reddit spacing
it's clearly you man, and who honestly gives a shit about that? VSBW are having Goku and Bejita fighting King Kong and Godzilla, it doesn't matter

>>149019427
Well, Vegito resists transmutation.

And Dimensional Domain would just make Popeye unable to move for just Goku.

>>149019425
Hercules

>>149019442
Hercules is good friends with Thor but he's definitely not his best friend

>>149019438
>Use of moron

okay then YOU ARE A RETARD. Using non canon vs canon is unfair in 90% of scenarios.

>>149018674
I don't want to scare you but there's a huge pedophile in that picture

>>149019455
then go complain to VSBW instead of crying about it here

>>149019450
I've been reading the latest Thor run and Hercules is refer to as Thor's truest friend

>149017895
>149017886
What do you get from spamming multiple boards?

>>149018674
>>149019463
I dont get the moral shit with rounin kenshin.
Its like MJ. If it was confirmed he did touch children and you liked his songs, it is just utterly dishonest to now say lol i never liked MJ from one day to the other

>>149019463
I don't see Jackie Chan

>>149019470
No, you're the one posting the matchup HERE as it meant anything trying to say that Goku is weak and you know it, you dimwitted RETARD.

>>149019477
MJ never touched any kids no matter how bad the cope gets

>>149018878
This is an insult to Dragon Ball considering how fucking garbage Boruto's panelling and art is

>>149019472
what official writers write isn't necessarily canon, it must be first validated by battleboardingSCHOLARS, the highest authority in the field of fiction

>>149019470
No, you're the one posting the matchup HERE as if it meant anything. You tried to say that Goku is weak and you know it, you dimwitted RETARD.

>>149019505
no I didn't you retard

>he posted twice
Damn he mad

>>149019506
Yes you did you fucking retard.

>>149018847

>>149019500
...and we battleboarders decree CHADor to be LGBTQIA2S+!

>>149019517
retardo…

>>149019522
>I-It wasn't me!
>On fucking 4chan

Cope and seethe.

>>149019494
Stop idolizing a pedo freak

>>149010834 (OP)
Yes. The moment Nolan no-sold a black hole in the show, there was nothing Bardock could do.

>>149019239
I still like it, it's thematically apt

>>149010834 (OP)
I hated the way he won.
If they wanted Omniman to win they should've made it so Bardock had the AP advantage with Omniman taking Endurance (thanks to Smart Atoms), Speed (interstellar travel across galaxies), and experience.
Limit Bardock to his only canon transformation (Ozaru) and showcase the big ape kino more on the fight, with Nolan winning by exploiting the Saiyan's biological need for oxygen by taking the fight into space or destroying the atmosphere of the planet

>>149019041
Her and Karin vs Asuka and Lili

>>149019568
??? He was literally attempting to kill himself on that black hole

>>149019307
No more kings and no more gods

>>149011005
The super anime jumped way ahead of itself with implications of power. It felt like every character was placed outside of their intended role. Particularly, Beerus and Champa starting to destroy multiple universes just be having a brotherly squabble. That makes it seem like they are way too close to Xeno's ballpark of power.

>>149019280
>such a garbage Broly clone they made a canon one shortly after
Kale and the universe 6 saiyans in general suck so hard holy shit

>>149019614
Its funny you can kinda give em the same dialogues...

"In order to secure MY victory on this tag battle, i'll have you as my fighting partner!"

"Oh boy..."

>>149018220
>Omega Shenron's attack was actively breaking apart and destroying the entire universe.
I rewatched GT like three months ago and genuinely don't remember this. In fact I was desperately looking for anything resembling feats at this point since the entire Shadow Dragon arc just seems to run on implied scaling for escalation.

>>149019641
That's the theme, yeah, ojou and the sporty tomboy fighting tag teams

>>149019617
and he decided not to.
That means black holes can only kill Nolan, on his own volition.

Look at it this way. If you can outrurn a lion, then a lion will pose no threat. The lion is still fully capable of kill you, but only if you get caught.
And you can't get caught because you can outrun a lion.

>>149018220
Wasn't Janemba breaking dimensions or other crazy stuff

>>149019600
>biological need for oxygen by taking the fight into space or destroying the atmosphere of the planet
One of the rules of DB is that external factors to the fight can't be responsible for the win, it has to be the fighter's own abilities. It's why Alucard trying to outlast Dio until the sun came up wasn't an option

>>149019568
He didn't no sell a black hole. He floated far beyond the event horizon.

>>149019659
WithbSakura being a tad less confrontational than Asuka, but yeah.

Karin is also overall a better friend, seeking out Ryu to talk to Sakura in SFV, while Lili has not done jack shit for Asuka.

>>149019422
Who the fuck is AM anyway? I feel that I'm overestimating the guy simply because people are pushing for this match up.
Of the guy isn't uni to multiversal then of couse yeah, he fucking loses this.

I was just assuming they were in a similar ballpark.

>>149019518
OUR FUARKING HEROES!!!

>>149019568
>The moment something that never happens happened, Bardock was FUCKED

>>149019661
>outrurn
Post the color of your arm
>The lion is still fully capable of kill you
Then I can't no sell a lion, retard

>>149019684
Just read I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream

>>149019661
???? They fucking gave him MFTL+ speeds in the episode and Bardock still was faster due to toei feats

>>149019684
AM’s a seething loser who despite having reality warping power can’t make himself a humanoid body to go out and feel the air and sun.

Many times when Ultron gets revived it's because someone fucked something up. Like sending him back in time or making a copy of him.

>>149019642
It's when Kibito Kai asks Elder Kai what the consequences of the Minus Energy Ball would be. It's stated it would reach the Kaioshin Realm and destroy it along with everything else. Said Kaioshin Realm is beyond the universe itself in a separate dimension.

The essential context is that Omega Shenron was going to destroy the entire world.

>>149019662
He was warping the Afterlife with his existence and causing the barriers between the Afterlife and Living World to break down, warping the natural laws of the world. Whether or not you would consider that universal-level power is up to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth%2C_and_I_Must_Scream
>AM (Allied Mastercomputer, Adaptive Manipulator, Aggressive Menace), a hateful supercomputer which brought about the near-extinction of humanity after achieving self-awareness. It seeks revenge on humanity for its own creation
Notably, he is immobile and planet bound. He killed all of humanity with their own nukes and keeps a few to torture. I think there's better opponents than a motile AI that probably outstats him.

>>149019696
Oh ok. He loses to Ultron. Ultron has done that, hes made a human, a human body for himself, a wife, a dog, had children. It's probably easier to name thing he hasn't done.

>>149019702
I thought the implication was that it COULD destroy anything (including the Kaioshin realm) not that it was actively destroying it.

Since Ultron is being brought up I'm shilling Metal Cooler vs Ultron. If we need higher end scaling to make it fairer we can give him his SDBH scaling and Golden Metal form.

Fuck Ultron he already had a match. Dormammu please.

>>149019722
Pretty sure the implication was that it was literally going to destroy everything including the Kaioshin Realm if it wasn't stopped. Because the effects would rapidly spread world to world, corroding the universe and then the Kaioshin Realm.

I'm no GT expert though so I'm not going to claim that my interpretation is 100% correct.

>>149019731
Meta Cooler doesn't scale as high and his feats are lacking. He would be stomped.

>>149019731
There's no reason to believe he has any resistance to being hacked. On the contrary, the fact that the Big Gete Star just bowed to the first organic brain it came in contact with implies it might be particularly vulnerable to outside influences.

>>149019731
Ultron hacked Asgard. Like, he dominated that entire shit and became the top dog there. Yeah... it's a rape harder than what Bejita got.

>>149019545
Post Makima not getting outsmarted by a mouth breathing retard

>>149019748
SDBH Metal Cooler would scale nearly as high as SDBH Goku. He can fuck up fighters like Cumber who forced Goku into using UI and could take on Jiren's full power.

>>149019749
The Big Gete Star is a super computer that chose to assimilate Cooler, that isn't really a knock against its defenses against hacking. Funnily enough though Xenoverse 2 does depict Future Trunks hacking the Big Gete Star and it is stated he inherited his mother's genius so there is some basis there for Cooler being hackable.

My question is, how fast would Ultron be realistically scaled in a Death Battle? Because if we are giving Cooler his SDBH scaling he would be fast enough to blitz SDBH UIS Goku-level opponents. So would Ultron scale above the stats given to SDBH Goku in GvS3?

>>149018220
The main issue is that the Super universal feat comes from a time when standards in battleboarding were considerably higher and you actually had to directly punch hard enough to wipe out a universe instead of a more vague 'this guy is a THREAT to all of creation...' or with weird hax like whatever Buuhan was doing.

Then comicsniggers went fucking insane because they didn't want their fuarking heroes to lose to an actual character that hit hard enough to destroy a universe with no additional context so they leaned fully into the 'this guy is a THREAT to all of creation...' autism. That one Superman page that got popular was literally that for 40-50 of it's feats.

Then Dragon Ball bros were expected to play nice and fair and not bring up the dozens of statements of universal well before Super so they just got memoryholed. By the same logic DCtrannies use Goku would be universal at second form Frieza, if not considerably beforehand

Rick Grimes vs Joel Miller
who wins?
i hate Neil Druckmann and Adi Shankar

>>149019796
You're not wrong. I remember the pre-BoG era. People were laughed off if they tried claiming their characters were universe-level and being a galaxy-level was considered bigdick shit. It wasn't until God Goku had his universal feat that every character in fiction was suddenly being scaled to universal, even ones that had zero new feats to justify it.

Frankly if DB fans were to apply similar logic to a lot of wankers we would have 5D Raditz or some bullshit via wanking Garlic Jr's Dead Zone bullshit.

>>149019807
Rick kills Joel
and Clem kills Ellie

Please, let Jobmammu have a match.

>Infinite dimensionality
>This would be represented as a set of (1 ∞, 2 ∞, 3 ∞, .... ,∞ ∞)
>But wait!
>We can make infinity bigger with HYPER CARDINALS
so now you have (SUPER 1 ∞, SUPER 2 ∞, SUPER ∞, ... SUPER ∞ ∞)
>The set of infinite dimensionality of infinity being a hyper cardinal itself
The shit that schizos make up is really funny

>>149019812
Nappa is boundless though?

>>149019734
Ultron is for Brainiac anyway.

>>149019695
You missed the point. Don't think about speed, think about how he doesn't pose a threat.

>>149019796
It's weird that it caused such a stir when it's such a modest feat compared to what Gurren Lagann presented almost half a decade earlier.

>>149019841
????
Make sense you fucking retard.

You said he fucking tanked a black hole and he didnt

>>149019828
Ultron is too much for Braniac. Vision would be a fairer match.

>>149019843
Frankly it's just because Dragon Ball is a much more important verse to battleboarding than Gurren Lagann is. Goku is basically the face of powerscaling, arguably even moreso than Superman at this point. I have witnessed the meta of battleboarding shift in real time in accordance with Goku's own scaling meta.

>>149019851
Sounds like you're ducking, coward.

>>149010935
>and they defend Kratosura.
they do? i see it pop up a lot in everyone's recent least favorites

>>149019762
didn't MODOK do the same shit except even better?

>>149019790
Makima used the Future Devil's powers to see how awful Chainsawman part 2 would end up being and decided to let herself be killed before meeting a date worse than death.
Just look at poor Yoru enduring humiliation ritual after humiliation ritual in a poorly drawn manga with no direction or plot whatsoever

>>149019843
Pretty much because Goku vs Superman is THE battleboarding match of all time. Goku actually performing a straight feat where he punches hard enough to destroy the universe, and then gets many times stronger, was pretty much going to end the debate when both of them had been seen as anywhere from planet to solar system level previously.

TTGL never really had any serious or contested matches other than maybe Getter which everyone knew it would win, and even Kyle was only a thing because it was a stomp to counter the DC win streak going on at the time when DC levels were a lot more reasonable. Hell even the Simon vs Kyle DB itself was only seen as 'close' because of how much of a lunatic show DC has become retroactively scaled to.

>>149019791
They'll scale him to the times he fought Thor or Silver Surfer probably. So whatever numbers they had in their episodes

>>149019859
Sounds like you want another big L for DÇ.
Ultron took over the Odin Force. You already had this damn fight. Marvel character scale higher, end of the story.

>TTGL
Mazinger Zero victim.

>>149019910
>your entire cosmology blown out like a birthday candle by a goth girl blocks your way
You're ducking, coward.

>>149019796
It wasn't just the comicniggers who went utterly schizophrenic, but their writers as well. Grant Morrison's slop fanfiction about muh story of superman and Doomsday Clock mean that the mentally ill have an argument that can shut down any legitimate feats, and that is "muh narrativeslop!".

Now we live in an era where characters with planetary and galaxy levels of destructive power aren't impressive anymore, and they can be scaled to omniversal/whateverversal levels just through hyperbolised statements. DCtroons live on these statements, because otherwise Superfag only scales to destroying stars at his very best.

>>149019843
>east vs west
>shonen vs capeshit
>hard work vs genetics
>ICONS of their mediums
Because Goku vs Superman is THE MATCHUP!! The original is close to 50 million views. It's evergreen.

>>149019906
Haven't checked Silver Surfer but if I am remembering Thor correctly his own speed rating would be nothing to even just movie Metal Cooler. The GvS3 analysis at the end notes that Metal Cooler has an immeasurable speed feat via catching Goku mid-IT and Metal Cooler would scale above the immeasurable speed shit they gave Goku there if they were to use DBH Cooler.

So that makes me think Metal Cooler would likely be too fast for Ultron to realistically hack. Like even if Ultron managed to initiate a hack he would likely be destroyed before it is executed...and that gets into weird-ass territory like Metal Cooler having immeasurable processing speed so he would have immeasurable time to detect and deal with Ultron's hack.

So currently it feels like Freeza vs Megatron where they acknowledge Megatron has a potential wincon via his antimatter but it's just negated by Freeza's sheer speed advantage. Ultron would need to be given immeasurable speed.

>>149019962
this is a fact

>>149019843
>what Gurren Lagann presented
what, galaxy level strenght?

>>149010834 (OP)
Dazai from Bungou Stray Dogs against Aizawa from My Hero Academia? Who wins?

>>149019962
>goku
>hard work
lol...lmao. goku is all gentics and god ki. goku's friends bust their ass to train and goku does 4 push ups on a space ship and surpasses all his buddies LOL. goku gets boosts based off his genes. goku IS genetics the character

>>149019866
You get some brainrot fags that try to loosely defend it but they may also just be trying to shitpost. That or its just the general toxic positivity they have over there where they get pissy if you dunk hard on an episode even if it deserves it

>>149020002
>goku's friends bust their ass to train
Literally nobody trains like Goku and Bejita. They stay on Earth while Goku wants to train with everyone who is stronger than him.

>Go to reddit to see any discussion over Tom vs Coyote
>Get jumpscared with tons of faggy fanart of two characters that don't even have an episode and get nuked with cringe by THIS pic
It's amazing how even with the cuckposting, the meltdowns, and all the awful shit in these threads reddit still manages to be even worse
Like, look at this shit.

>>149019822
How did Dr.Doom struggle with this? Realistically, he would have beaten him with his tech, enhanced magic, and prep

>>149020009
>IESLB
Retard.
>>149020019
Kek. Did you make this?

>>149020019
KBC

>>149020022
Lol goku and bejita are only that strong because if their genes

>>149019967
Unless the BGS has any hacking resistance feats then Ultron is jumping to a fancy new body as soon as the battle starts.

>>149019441
>Well, Vegito resists transmutation.
Popeye has layerd transmutation
>Dimensional Domain
Popeye has infinte stamina

Once again, Godeye has shown his superiority.

>>149019962
>capeshit
Tell me you're a DBpaco without telling me you're a DBpaco

>>149020030
Jobmammu jobs so much he's actually adorable.

>>149020039
>because if
>ESL brownoid
>[HEADCANON]

>>149020002
The fuck are you on about? Goku is a fight and training autist. The guy is barely around because he is always training to the point he thought Vegeta skimping out on it in order to be around for his own kid's birth was lame.

>>149020043
Does Ultron have an argument for immeasurable speed in Death Battle yes or no. If your answer is no then hacking is virtually meaningless to Cooler.

>>149020030
>It's tickling my DNA

>>149020072
It's funny how Manray is probably the strongest character in SpongeBob

>>149020030
You must be confused. Doom didn't struggle with that. That fight was part of his scheme to dominate Earth.

>>149019530
:)

>>149020019
Saved.

>>149020084
What about the water bear?

>>149019843
As an oldfag from /m/, no one actually considered GL to be much further beyond galaxy level until people starting picking apart interviews and applying direct scaling to the multiverse labyrinth. For a long time people seriously put Getter Emporor around the same level as STTGL and often put Mazinger Zero above it. There were even Super Robot Wars titles that had villains that were narratively put above STTGL.

>>149019999
daizai is sure to have 99 keikakus for this situation

Brainiac is much smarter than Ultron. This isn't a good match. On a good day, Ultron would achieve half of what Brainiac does after Tony flushes a mcguffin down his toilet and it happens to land on Ultron's head.

>>149020044
>
...are powerscalers writing popeye now? jesus...

>>149020032
NTA but it was posted in an earlier thread

>>149020120
God, I love these threads.

>>149020098
I don't think people still do, but it had to be done to match the absolutely fucking bizarre version of Kyle and DC that Death Battle was inevitably going to use.
If the match ended at "character who tanks being smashed hard to enough to obliterate entire galaxies" versus "character who is somewhat but not that much stronger than characters who struggle with planets and solar systems" I think most people/TTGL fans would be happy and that is what the match was initially seen as, not 'multiversal reality warpers'. The upscale of comicniggery wank poisoned the well.

>>149020097
Man Ray has canonically took over the world and killed strong antagonists like the TattleTale stranger who even Larry fears. He was able to scare Dennis from the SpongeBob Movie too

>>149020098
I feel like this series is sitting on some of the strongest battle oriented characters from Japan but they are way too niche for any MU.

>>149020098
lambdadelta had galaxy-level konpeitous btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N2cLxr5kNk&t=902s

>>149020110
And Ultron wouldn't even be allowed to use the stones in Death Battle. If they did, maybe that could be close. But those jobber stones can be removed and Brainiac would likely find a way to take them away from Ultron.

>>149020172
He probably drew a huge circle around that city to keep those bears away

>>149020172
Feels to me Stingray from Superjail would be a good MU to this guy.

>>149020053
Cooler destroying Ultron's body is pointless. He would need to kill his code and stop it from taking over. So hacking resistance or bust.

The real ending of Scout vs Tracer

>>149019354
Are there really not more female characters who can handle losing all their clothes in a fight?

>>149020172
didn't he job to tartar Sauce?

>>149020228
In what issue does it say you have to destroy his code? Because Ultron has been dumb enough to keeo himself in a single body multiple times. He runs on Buu logic a lot of times.

>>149016559
Been around for 70 years and had movies air on tv on big broadcast networks like TNT and AMC.

>>149020228
Complete and utter nonsense.

>>149018275
>Hey! I like your cowel! Who made it for you? Was it Garcia? Garcia's a miracle worker.

>>149020292
Like beliving Meta Cooler could do anything to Ultron. The guy can smack the entire Avengers in the face with the ease. That includes the guy that beat the shit out of Bejita on Death Battle.
No hacking required.

>>149020228
So in short you have no arguments for IS Ultron. Meaning Metal Cooler can do literally anything and everything before Ultron can even process anything occurring. Which also means the computer in Metal Cooler has limitless time to detect and stop any hacking attempts Ultron can possibly come up with even if he manages to initiate a hack in the literal zero time he has.

>>149020307
DBH Cooler scales to around DBH UIS Goku-level. The scale given to Thor and Vegeta in their DB is irrelevant.

>>149020280
Why would he not hack the shiny metal man?

>>149019041
She can go against Yuri from SNK
>>149019614
I’d be rooting for Karin and Sakura but with Tekken 8 scaling Lily has I dunno anymore, Karin scales to Bison but Kazuya would probably beat the turd out of him now

Fuark… fighting game matches are really fun to talk about, mainly because they aren’t multiversal bullshit but they’re still strong enough to be interesting

>>149020325
Where do Streets of Rage and Bloody Roar fit in the scaling system of Tekken, Fatal Fury, Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear, and Street Fighter?

>>149019441
No he doenst. He ends up turned into a candy ball, he just is able to move around

>>149020320
>detect and stop any hacking attempts Ultron can possibly come up
Where's his hacking resistance then?

New thread is up

>>149020019
KEKYPOW!

>>149020173
SRW OG robots as early as Alpha, a game from 2000, already had original series mecha that could pull Neutron stars out of their asses as an attack, and they’ve only gotten much stronger since then when stronger and stronger series got into the franchise like TTGL and Diebuster.

>>149020263
I am sure there are more, but these are the most willpowered in death battle imo

>>149020335
Move around and still handle buu so... cope and seethe

>>149020325
Ugh Yuri is such a non character.

Her only feat in the manga is destroying a building with help and in the games its her getting one shotted in the KOF XV intro.

>>149020342
His immeasurable speed alien super computer that can analyse Goku mid-instant transmission and evolve Metal Cooler's structures in response to elevating danger. And his ability to destroy Ultron before Ultron can even process his existence.

Unless you can argue that Ultron should have immeasurable speed it's not worth debating this any further. Any arguments you would make regarding his hacking against Cooler's speed would be in bad faith.

Women gave birth to all of humanity (all humans came from a woman's womb)
Meaning that women are planet level thanks to this creation feat

>>149020108
Would that be enough?