Thread 149257963

Does Thor beating amped Godzilla help Hulk?

OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
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>BARK! BARK! BARK!
>Calm down boy! You couldn't handle being the Better Man, now I'll treat you like the dog you are!

Anyone who replies to a VS debate with these definitely fails the breakfast question, 100%

Reminder the actual comic has Current Thor freeze Beast amped Godzilla for weeks and casually mention tossing him into the sun before he gets amped by the Necrosword stuff

>>149257963 (OP)
Godzilla's sheer size advantage has got to come into play here, right? Hulk is an ant compared to Godzilla. Somebody like Superman can mitigate this because they can fly, but Hulk can't fly. He's basically waiting to be swatted like the insect he is.

>>149257989
It's bizarre that some take the very existence of the hobby as a personal affront

Post Kratos destroying a mountain.

OH MY OUTERVERSAL TOWN-SIZED SUNS

>>149257982
CANOOOOOONNNNNNNN! Asura is a monster no more.
Seriously though that line is insanely ironic and spiteful when Asura has never killed a human

>>149258001
Hulk can fly by flexing his muscles and controlling the momentum of his superstrength.

>>149257995
>another Sun-sama win
KNEEL

>>149257995
Superman jobbing makes less sense every day

>>149258042
Consider dramatic effect and that powerscaling fiction is subhuman behavior.

>>149257963 (OP)
The research was already done
It doesn't matter

>>149258042
Makes effect sense. Current Thor > Current Superman. While they both started out doing stuff with people like the Wrecking Crew and Parasite as villains, as it stands, more often than not, Thor fights battles off Earth so he can fight in more expendable territory

>>149257963 (OP)
BRING ME REIMU

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>>149258173
Whatever happened to npc miles morales

>>149258145
Fuck off and kill yourself listtroon.

>>149258181
Didn't he get a role in the kids cartoon with all 3 spiders? Besides that idk

>>149258288
(Me) I was wrong, he got a minor role in the regular spiderman cartoon with the weird cel-shading look as a generic thug. Apparently he's just a normal content creator now

I just LOVE penises. The gayer the better!
My favorite hero...?

>>149258348
The Thing?

>>149258348
Please just tell us who you're falseflagging as from the start.

I guess obligatory question but anything you're expecting for the miles preview? I have nothing except exaggerated swagger of a black teen

>>149258539
If they don’t mention any chain-scaling, Dekufags should panic because that means they don’t think Miles even needs it to win.

Hulkbros…

>>149258555
Kratosbros…

>>149258539
That, a random calc, and the same shit they said in his previous analysis

>>149258539
They’ll only call him Miles once or twice, and then spend the rest of the analysis calling him Spider-Man

>>149258348
/dbg/ naturally!

Hey guys. Just came to say

>>149258555
It's me. I'm the largest fraud.

>>149258681
Wouldn't kill Mahoraga.

I still think Bison vs Athena Asamiya is kinda neat

>>149258669
We know, Gojo.

>>149258681
>Solos JJKverse...
...in her dying dream, after getting speedblitzed and outscaled by the weakest JJKverse CHAD

>>149258709
>Slashes through him because he doesn't have any armor

>>149258713
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself listroon

>>149258724
maho would regenerate then grow natural armor or something

>>149258042
Ignoring the fact that neither crossover is in continuity, Godzilla's breath was basically kryptonite to Supes. Thor doesn't have an obvious weakness and had Odinforce on top of his usual powerset.

>>149258724
Then he regenerates and she's fucked.

>>149258744
>cuts again
>then grow natural armor
Not smart enough to consider that, he doesn't know how her spell works

>>149258761
Why didn't he regen against Sukuna?

Reminder Superman is canonically, explicitly, written on-page in an actual main universe comic, weak to Ubel's magic and would be one-shot by her.

>>149258783
No..wait...he would put on armor and it wouldn't work!

>>149258783
>Ubel: Do that funny dance I like before I solo your verse

>>149258782
He did though? Sukuna had to roast his entire body to kill him

>Superman vs Ubel in-character
>Superman sees Ubel and tries to talk her down not knowing her magic
>Ubel walks up to him and cuts him
>Superman takes the attack because it's by all means just a regular slash to him
>pic rel

>>149258817
Oh it's been a while since I read it, it just looks like he got slashed and died

>>149258821
Her magic works by her own logic
>I can cut through a body with a blade
>She walks up to him and cuts him right in half like she would with anyone else

>>149258016
Applying coherent standards to anything imperils their Marxist worldview.

>>149258804
>When Ubel lets you watch her fuck Lois with her futa penis

>Gojo gets no diff'd by a cripple and a teenager
He's the strongest?

>>149258835
are you confusing him with gojo maybe?

>>149258893
Yes lol

Could Ubel completely cut Wolverine’s body in half, since she wouldn’t know about his adamantium bones, and thus wouldn’t have any reason to think she couldn’t cut through them?

One thing still bothers me

Where is Light vs Columbo?

>>149258713
Is this just a fetish matchup?

>>149258681
Wouldnt work on maki as magic = curse energy so doesnt work on her

>>149258847
Indeed, there is nothing that really implies Supes is super durable by his presence alone. Its just a hero bodysuit and a cape. Something you can cut.

>>149258919
No, they literally have the same name for their power, have been in several crossover games together and have special win quotes against the other.

Besides, Athena would win the fight. The what if brainwashing corruption end to the fight is secondary.

>>149258915
Yeah

>>149258916
It would be based if they actually did their research, went beyond the lol Light is overconfident xD gg meme and actually give him the win.

>>149258956
My hero aizen solos 99% of verses

Canonically the strongest Capcom character

>>149258956
hitler-sama...

MAKE WAY FOR TEAM DAI-GURREN

>>149258971
Light will win but he will not have Misa to help him.

ZAMN Ubel gets to fuck this!?

>>149258988
She is kinda featless in general. Everyone beats up Bison / Pyron in their endings, after all.

The strongest we have seen her outside crossovers is in SF X Tekken's comic, where she made Pandora and threw it on earth for the lols

>>149258956
Ironically, ubel...
>>149258992
This is Swans pet project so I doubt anyone but him will work on it, he'll have Columbo win to own chuddy light

>>149258919
Yes. That's all of listroon's matches.

>>149258992
Light SHOULD win regardless of that by being far, far, far smarter than Columbo by being comparable to L in their Intellect Level.
The guide directly says L alone is comparable to a entire branch of the FBI.

Columbo's ONLY argument for victory is lol Light overconfident lol

Besides, Light can just... do the deal at any time and write Columbo's name on the hidden watch paper to win.

>>149258981
Seththeretard...

>>149258821
>>149258847
>>149258941
Superman would tank it. He regularly tanks disintegration rays, reality warping attacks, and attacks that harm him on a molecular or atomic level.
>B-but Ubel's magic is conceptual and-
Doesn't matter. Multiple enemies have tried to conceptually erase Superman in the past. It doesn't work. Superman is above concepts

The fact that light wasn't caught dancing on L's grave was just poor writing. I imagine that's where Columbo would piece it all together

>>149259022
Explain the fetish behind Nick Fury vs Big Boss

>>149259045
That scene didn’t happen in the manga.

>>149259042
Anon, it's okay...

>>149259034
Bleach was already faster than light and planet level bare min during the soul society arc

>>149259045
Why would Columbo be at the cementery at that point ?

>>149259042
Disintegration is not magic, reality warping depends on tiering, molecular and atomic attacks are not magic either

So cope and seethe superfag. Go try to sell comics or save your shit movie

>>149259031
The deal won't work because Columbo doesn't have a first name so he is immune to the death note. It would be like trying to kill Cher.

>>149259020
>Swan will make Columbo win!!!
Just like he did with Kyle and Giorno

>>149259062
What's this quote from specifically

>>149259069
Yes because Giorno vs Joker is infamously his pet project. Isn't there a rumor where it isn't animated?

>>149259046
I dunno, listroon. I'm not a deviant, like you. It's almost certainly one of your weird fetishes, though.

Light vs Columbo is retarded. How does it start? Is he called in the beginning instead of L? How would he even pin point Light down? Is it after L dies? If so then how does he fair against Light, Misa, Rem, and all the other fake Kiras? Columbo would never even consider Light as a suspect. The no canon full name doesn't even work because the fucking Death Note just makes up a name for you.

>>149259068
Eat shit faggot. The eyes give you the name needed to kill the person regardless of the legality or registration

>Miles, Bailey and Spider-Gwen will job to Marvel Broly
Miles is the Genos of Spider-Man. He gets all these flashy powers, maybe some wins against minor villains, but he will always job in the big fights. If Miles beats Deku, then Peter solos MHA.

>>149259064
ok?

Got you. See you soon

FUUUUUUCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! I JUST WANT A GIRLFRIEND BROS ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

About Gojo and Johnny.
I think we can divide this argument in 3 areas: Stats, Hax, and Trump Cards
>Stats
When it comes to power Johnny takes it no matter the approach, lowballed he still scales to the Holy corpse's spine who could create a storm that engulfed all of Kansas city and Love Train moving the Atlantic Ocean, highballs involve him being infinite in AP
Speed is a bit trickier because as a lowball Johnny and Gojo are roughly equals (maybe with a little edge for Gojo) midballs give Gojo the edge, but all the highballs give Johnny the edge in speed (even with Gojo's FTL scaling from Sukuna)
Out of 6 categories (low, Mid, and highs for both AP and Speed) Johnny Takes 4 (all the AP ones and Speed Highballs) and Gojo takes 2 (Speed low to midballs)
So stats go to Johnny
>Hax
Both combatants have a basic first Hax that has multiple alternative uses.
Gojo: Infinity, Red, Blue, and Purple
Johnny: Act 2, Act 3 and act 4
Gojo's Neutral infinity would protect him from Johnny's basic shots. But Act 2's sinkholes showcased the ability to move through dimensional barriers (act 2 managed to not only bypass Love Train's barrier but also ignore or reverse D4C's main dimension hopping ability) so at the very least that should be able to hit Gojo.
Red is a basic ranged attack, but blue could leave Johnny badly injured, but as long as he doesn't get instantly killed (something likely if we take his best possible speeds) he can answer with act 3 to become unreachable while also being able to shoot at gojo with act 2.
And while strong Hollow Purple is still bellow the lowballed AP estimates for Tusk act 4 so the humanoid stand should be able to defend johnny from it.
Overall Gojo's best trick is a surprise blue while Johnny's Act 2, and 3 are a superior offensive and defensive tactic, while also having act 4 as a defense against purple
Hax go to Johnny, unless...
1/2

>>149259111
Then it would outscale the fuck outta naruto which barely reaches moon level at the final war

>>149259125
DAMN, THAT LOLI IS STUCK BETWEEN TWO BEASTS.

I, DeKEK, JOBBER of Death Battle and all of Shonen humbly kneel to:

Shigaraki-sama, my one and only true master who MOGGED me in Death Battle and who I needed others to beat for me in my own final battle.

Asta-sama, winner of my Death Battle and my other master.

Miles-sama, who will HUMILIATE me in my upcoming episode and make me go 0-2.

Bakugo-sama, who has surpassed me in every way and stole my girl.

Todoroki-sama, whose Death Battle victory I can never measure up to.

All Might-sama, who I shall never become stronger than.

Gentle Criminal-sama, who I JOBBED to and was forced to watch as he RAILED his wife La Brava in front of me.

Vulture-sama, who effortlessly ONE-SHOT me with his pinky toe.

Invincible-sama, who would knock me out of One For All 100% full power with ease and proceed to beat the shit out of me.

The entire JJK verse, who I am afraid of because my Quirks PALE in comparison to their Cursed Techniques.

>>149258681
>>149258761
Just on the basis of regen she isn't killing a bunch of characters. Jogo, Mahito, Hanami, Jackpot Hakari and Kenjaku would all survive. Mechamaru would be in his armor so no cutting him. Any of the curses depending on how fucked up they look might throw it off

>>149259134
Which has to do with 99% of fiction because........

>>149259103
>registered in the family registration
This is a rule made specifically for L, who was an orphan who canonically always had a name. Columbo canonically does not have a full name. The Death Note does not have a rule that transcends fiction. Cope.
Light would also never use the shinigami eyes.
>But Misa! But Rem
Nonfactors in this MU. It's Light vs Columbo not Light, Misa, Ryuk, Rem, Mikami, Yotsuba Group vs Columbo

ALL of my FUARKING HEROES are getting SLICED TO BITS...!!

>>149259078
Superman issue 664 by Kurt Busiek, part of the Camelot Falls story

>>149259130
>Trump Cards
In the end all will be decided by Unlimited Void Vs Golden Rotation.
Both Johnny and Gojo have no direct counters to these moves other than not being hit, if Johnny gets hit by UV he's done, if Gojo gets hit by the infinite rotation he's done.
This creates a scenario where we either go for a quick draw or we analyse for ways to disrupt the other's Trump Card.
In a QuickDraw Johnny might win if they go for highballs but since Gojo is faster in low and midballs he also has a good chance at winning this way.
So when it comes to weaknesses between these wincons we have
>Johnny
-Kill the horse
That would shut down his access to the golden rotation... In the long run, Even without his horse Johnny retains the Infinite rotation for a while so it wouldn't affect him immediately (and EOS Johnny can walk so that wouldn't cripple his mobility)
-Kill Johnny before he can shoot
Just kill him lmao
>Gojo
-Break the domain
That would shut down his Cursed technique... In the long run, a domain's sure hit remains for a bit before breaking so it wouldn't immediately affect Gojo
-Kill him before he can cast the domain
Just kill him lmao
-prevent the barrier from closing
A domain's sure hit effect is imbued within it's barrier, if the barrier can't be completed with a spiritual or physical mean it can't cast the sure Hit effect.

So Gojo's best bet is killing the horse while Johnny's best bet is either killing Gojo directly or use Tusk's ability to force anything to open to prevent Gojo's domain from closing (although this is a bit of a reach since we don't know how either ability would work in such conditions, but even if he can't do that Johnny always can escape the domain with act 3 or go underground with act 4 to escape Gojo's domain and attack from bellow)

Overall Johnny's superior stats, hax, should give him the win against Gojo's Trump Card.
This is why I think Johnny Joestars wins

>>149259168
That looks like slop. I'll be reading Supes-kino instead like pic related.

>>149259150
Ignore me I'm just a retard who gets all his opinions and entire personality from YouTubers.

Post your REALISTIC expectations for future matchups:
>Yujiro vs Homelander
>Eren Yeager vs Ken Kaneki
>Peter vs Homer
>Punisher vs Red Hood
>Iida vs A-Train
>Invincible vs Luke Skywalker
>Master Chief vs Commander Shepard
>Mickey vs Bugs

>>149259064
>Bleach was already faster than light
lol

>>149259150
The only fictions that matter are Naruto and Bleach.

>>149259219
>>149259064
Bleach is not FTL until the Hundred Years Blood War

>>149259223
...to either retards or faggots, and also retarded faggots.

Grab Bubbles and Make her bounce on my dick, it hurts her a bit at the start (not really, she has super powers but she was scared) but eventually she becomes enamored with my dick and can't get enough of it, she rides me until her cunny is full with my cum and I'm completely dry
Kiss blossom with tongue to throw her off and quickly pin her down, smash her cunny with my cock until my head is kissing her womb. Pound until her good girl act drops and she just craves for my cock milk
Rape correct Buttercup by inserting my fingers on her ass by surprise, grab her and turn her upside down to use her Tiny Body as an onahole, forcing my cock down her throat while I lick her pussy and bite her clit until she pees in my mouth while I feed her proteins straight into her stomach

>>149259130
>lowballed he still scales to the Holy corpse's spine who could create a storm that engulfed all of Kansas city
Johnny died to a fucking rock falling on his head

>Speed is a bit trickier because as a lowball Johnny and Gojo are roughly equals...but all the highballs give Johnny the edge in speed (even with Gojo's FTL scaling
The literal story of Steel Ball Run is that everybody involved, including every single character Johnny fights, is riding a fucking horse race across the country for weeks on end
There are literally characters in the part whose offense can be boiled down to "lol I have a normal gun" who Johnny and Gyro are not running circles around
To say nothing of "FTL JJK"

You are fucking insane, please take your anti powerscaler meds

If it's death battle why are you asking about Misa or Rem?
It's Columbo vs Light. Columbo would get his hands on the death note and do a swap, letting light assume he won before revealing it was a normal sheet of paper and he gets booked.

Let's look at the facts
Light: lost to Near and died
Columbo: has never lost

>>149259257
Halbro... please stop...

>>149259190
Congrats. Ubel still oneshots him.

Don't have insane magic hax? You are fucking DONE, kiddo.

>>149259257
Hal, I beg you, you're giving the corps a bad rep...

>>149259190
>Jeph Loeb
Isn't that the guy who wrote that comic where Blob vores Wasp and a bunch of people die in gory ways, why would I read that satanic goyslop

>>149259187
>if Gojo gets hit by the infinite rotation he's done
Except the Infinite Rotation isn't an instant kill. Even if it hit it still has to wear away your body.
There's also Dio just negating it reaching the rest of his body by cutting off the part of the body where it hit. Johnny is comparatively fucked if any one of Gojo's techniques go near him.

>>149259258
There is nothing wrong with being squashed by a rock

Fanfiction

>>149259257
Most wanted matchup?

>>149259273
Superb Dispelling, bitch

>>149259064
They're certain fighting around light speed. They dodge those protective beams that the bald dude called light and then the 9th espada reacts to light exposure while he's still in the shade (light has not reached him despite the hole in the wall) and he gets out of the way.

>>149259257
What? The powderpuff girls have no place here

>>149259317
Homura vs Kurumi, probably.

>>149259317
Goku vs Ryu, Why do you ask?

If lex luger scales to superman then he should be able to beat goku right?

>>149259271
>Congrats. Ubel still oneshots him.
Superman would feel Ubel cutting through him and react before she could finish cutting him in half, much like how we instinctively move our hands away from a hot stove. Superman has lightspeed reactions and lightspeed reflexes, so he'll only be scratched by Ubel's killing strike since she'll be moving far too slow to land a killing blow

>>149259258
You are a utter clown who talks about shit you don't understand
>Johnny died to a fucking rock falling on his head
He died to the rock disease, you would know that if you read Jojolion instead of the Jojo wiki
>The literal story of Steel Ball Run is that everybody involved, including every single character Johnny fights, is riding a fucking horse
Reaction speed is not the same as movement speed, nor is that the same as the speed of Tusk as a stand.
But in Death Battle they take the highest possible speed and generalize it (Gojo for example got his speed from a reaction speed scaling not a movement speed feat)
Lowballed Johnny would be equal to Gyro who can throw his steel balls faster than a point blank bullet that was already shot at him can reach his body. (I'm guessing this is above the speed of sound but who knows)
Midballs would scale him to magenta Magenta who can react to a bullet already touching him mid flight (Johnny should be above him but we can also chain scale him with Wekapipo and Gyro)
Highball Johnny is just using stand stats to determine Tusk's speed being on par with Stone Free (relativistic) or maybe FTL since he can fight two stands that have As on speed (and DB is committed to give those FTL according to Giorno Vs Joker)
Lowballed Gojo is above Mach 3 because of the whole chain of (down) scaling
Midballed Gojo should be around lighting speed (scaling from Hakari or higher with black flash scaling (that DB uses)
Highballed Gojo might be FTL because of Sukuna dodging EM waves (to be fair no idea if there's a calc that puts this above Jojo's own FTL calcs I kinda doubt it but who knows)

I am taking all possible scaling (that I know of) while trying to identify what DB might buy, stop being retarded

>>149259368
>ballsballsballs
okay dude

>>149259257
Aree they ftl? Asking before dickk bounce.

Reminder: You are NOT lightspeed if you cannot circle the entire planet 7 times in a second. I don't care if your character dodged light or lightning. It was either the rule of cool, or the attack wasn't moving at light speed.
Otherwise, every one in Avatar the Kast Airbender would be mach 300 because they dodge lightning.
Otherwise, everyone in X-Men the Animated Series and Spider-Man the Animated series would be FTL because they dodge guns that shoot lasers.
Otherwise, everyone in Star Wars would be FTL because they dodge lasers.
See where I'm going with this?
If your character is FTL, then in the story, travel time should ALWAYS be instantaneous if the story takes place on a single planet. There shouldn't be a single situation where you character has to spend time traveling somewhere, and it should be impossible for your character to be late to a date, school, or work

>>149259160
Rem, Misa, Mikami and even the task force are tools for Light to use.

Also
>Made for L
The divine magic book had a rule in place for one person in particular before that person was even born

sasuga L tier 0

>>149259356
>admits it would kill him

>>149259356
Superman has to manually "turn on" his lightspeed reaction time. If he doesn't, and he tends not to since he holds back a lot, he can be hit by characters like Batman or Deathstroke pretty easily, even if they have super powerful swords

>>149259260
Name a single subject in Columbo that by the guidebook itself is stated to be superior to an entire branch of the FBI

>>149259394
>Speed: FTL+ (Flew to the a disco ball halfway from the sun in a short amount of time [14.684]. Flew quickly from an asteroid belt to earth in a second. She beat E-Male in a race, who could circle the globe in 7 seconds. She beat him by 4 seconds whilst being casual and starting the race late)

>>149259401
>would be FTL because they dodge guns that shoot lasers.
Yup yup yup, makes perfect sense and this will be how Luffy is MFTL+

>>149259401
disneycanon blasters are not lasers, but condensed heat

legends blasters were indeed made of light tho

>>149259418
Is superman really FTL? I mean he couldn't save most of these hostages. He might be able to dodge 1 Ubel attack but the rest will cut him down + even if all of them only scratched him, it'll eventually wear him down.

>>149259424
One more thing

>>149259317
Who else?

>>149259286
>Except the Infinite Rotation isn't an instant kill.
For Gojo it might as well be
Valentine lasted as long as he did thanks to his stand being the one with the Infinite rotation and him just suffering the effects through it, and still he needed to hop into a bunch of different bodies to survive
Diego had previous knowledge, something Gojo doesn't have.
Plus Infinite rotation makes every cell in your body spin, this includes brain and stomach cells meaning that the Infinite rotation would likely make it so Gojo can't use his techniques or Even Cursed energy.
And if he somehow can he would need to keep his body on constant RCT to even keep himself in a single piece, something that wouldn't help him when Johnny is still there.
>There's also Dio just negating it reaching the rest of his body by cutting off the part of the body
He had previous knowledge about infinite rotation, Gojo wouldn't know that
>Johnny is comparatively fucked if any one of Gojo's techniques go near him
I already explained why this is not the case.
Tusk scales higher than any of Gojo's attacks so he could easily punch away red and purple, blue is the main danger but only if it takes Johnny by surprise
>>149259380
Steel Ball Run is a series with a lot of balls

>>149259354
Lex Luger beat Hulk Hogan and powerslammed Yokozuna. Of course he beats Goku.

>>149259401
>Physicskek is having a melty
KWAB
Just post your sub relativistic fodder who got stomped by a FTLCHAD so we can laugh at you

>>149259125
K-Pop Demon Hunters vs TMNT, who wins?>>149259140
Not a loli, that’s just her Chibi form

>>149259368
>He died to the rock disease
The curse doesn't automatically kill you you fucking retard, and even assuming he was dead by the time Shakedown Road did it's thing the rock still crushed his head. His 'Kansas storm level' '''''''''attack potency'''''''' head. Does his durability just automatically go away when he dies? Is he secretly a Saiyan who needs to concentrate to have his ''''''attack potency''''''' that high?

>Reaction speed is not the same as movement speed,
Damn that's crazy then how Johnny had whole fights on top of his horse while fighting other people and they weren't just completely frozen to him. I loved the fight against Ringo Roadagain, a character who just uses a normal gun to kill you, where Johnny was incapable of dodging his bullets and got shot a ton of times. Johnny must have been in hell watching those bullets crawl towards him for centuries from his perspective, knowing he just magically couldn't move his head out of the way to avoid them.

>But in Death Battle they take the highest possible speed
I don't give a flying fuck about Death Battle's retarded logic and they're never going to do this dumbass matchup. If you want to discuss this matchup take your anti-powerscaler meds.
If you want to try and meme this kind of bullshit for Valentine when he inevitably fights Armstrong, go ahead, though it'll be equally as moronic there.

>>149259401
I remember when the accepted explanations for those were "the lightning is so obviously telegraphed by the dance they tend to do or at least the pointing motions that everyone that reacts to Avatar lightning is certainly just reacting to the caster motions" and "those cartoons and Star Wars are firing bolts of ionized plasma, which while decently fast are not FTL and not real lasers"

>>149258853
>Marxist

I'm gonna level with you brotha using buzzwords all the time makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously

You gotta go outside at least once a day

/pol/ is rotting your brain from inside

>>149259544
>that everyone that reacts to Avatar lightning is certainly just reacting to the caster motions
Regardless of everything else this was always a stupid explanation because in pretty much every instance argued for this it's the characters dodging after it's fired anyways.

Ubel's cock.
My asshole.
You do the math.

>>149259580
Lois Lane...
Sif...
Betty Ross...
Chi Chi...
Bulma...

>>149259570
Yeah, after seeing a firebender known for lightning pointing at them possibly after doing an elaborate set of motions, it's an easier explanation than "people moving faster than lightning but only for very short intervals of time"

>>149259570
>it's the characters dodging after it's fired anyways.
Even so, Avatar still isn't FTL. The cast spends months traveling from place to place. If they were FTL, then there'd be no travel time.
Moreover, Zuko vs Azula straight up debunks it from a physics standpoint. Azula throws lightning at Katara, Zuko screams no, Katara hears the No and looks at Zuko, and then Zuko runs over and jumps in front of Katara. This means that the sound waves of Zuko's no traveled faster than Zuko himself to reach Katara, which means everyone in Avatar is subsonic. Period.

>WHObel
>BLEH vs BORERUTO
>mentions of FUARKING Youtubers in the halls
ENOUGH! CHADSTA is BACK. The winner of Deku vs Miles will have the opportunity of being cucked by the one and only BLAVK BVLL.

Yo

>>149259609
Probably not the real one.

>>149259606
>BLAVK

Never forget bros, we're strong

>>149259476
Johnny didn't die instantly either when he was hit by the rotation. Neither did Dio who had enough time to sever it from his body while he was still talking so it wasn't at hyper speed or anything.
The argument is relying on Gojo just letting himself take the full technique, even if the Six Eyes would tell him that his arm or leg is being fucked up and it's spreading. Maybe not down to the exact detail, but as you said, his cells twisting would be noticeable. And he can heal them anyway so nothing to lose.

>blah blah AP
We're not doing this for the part of Jojo where a man wielding a regular gun was considered a deadly threat.

>>149259401
how strong is he? he can singlehandedly kill a couple dozen of big aliens without taking damage

So what have been the biggest changes in the powerscaling world as of late? Any characters that have received a big power boost from new media? Are there any that actually got downgraded after their supposed feats got debunked?

How would you guys feel if Megamind vs The Doom Syndicate and the TV show are what helps Mega win against Gru

>>149259605
Is Thor FTL

>>149259818
He's FTL when he throws his hammer into space and hangs onto it I guess

>>149258919
yes
same with Knull vs Madoka except that one Listroon keeps his dick in his pants them posting about it

>>149259909
knull vs madoka is not a listroon MU tho

>>149258941
>>149258847
Superman survived erasure from my, who's a 5th dimensional imp from a dimension infinitey above time and space, representing imagination. So he's survived outerversal imagination from erasing him. I don't care if this hax is slightly different and beats way weaker characters.
>>149259062
Mine is a feat that's happened more recently. I think it's more likely Superman underestimated himself since he survived death inducement, erasure from time by time trapper, attacks from lords of chaos like mordru, omega beams.

>>149259543
>The curse doesn't automatically kill you you fucking retard
It's very likely he was.
Also your entire argument reads like you are butt hurt because Johnny scales higher than your favorite character.
It's very obvious you are being purposefully retarded because anyone who actually reads Jojo would understand that Stand stats don't correlate with the stats of the user (the exception being maybe reaction speeds)
Johnny can't do this >>149259476 with his own strength, but Tusk obviously can.
Stop being purposefully retarded and make real arguments
>fight against Ringo Roadagain
Fight you didn't read because if you did you would know that was almost at the very start of his journey, he didn't even had act 2 at the time.
This is like me using Kid Goku to downplay Dragon Ball Super Goku.
>I don't give a flying fuck about Death Battle's
Then don't go into a DB thread to argue about a hypothetical DB episode??
>they're never going to do this dumbass matchup
It's more likely than it seems, JJK is easy views, the MU is talked about by powerscalers and normies, and SBR is about to get it's anime adaptation

>>149259828
How does he steer?

>>149259783
DMC's copesmology wank was found to be based entirely on fake scans. Outside of shit like that where the statements themselves aren't real, do verses even get downgraded nowadays? It feels like the power levels only ever go up.

>>149259692
We don't have a good timeframe for how much time Johnny was agonizing before he got rescued, and obviously The thing doesn't instantly kill you but Gojo wouldn't have any method to survive it for long, again Diego had previous knowledge and purposefully let himself get hit with the ability.
>The argument is relying on Gojo just letting himself take the full technique
If he gets hit we will take it completely, there's literally nothing he can't do. He wouldn't know he needs to cut the part with the rotations, moreover if he gets hit in the chest or the heads that wouldn't even be an option for him.
>even if the Six Eyes would tell him that his arm or leg is being fucked up and it's spreading
What the fuck? The six eyes only allow Gojo to see/control cursed energy at the molecular level, Johnny's rotation has nothing to do with that. This argument makes no sense.
>We're not doing this for the part of Jojo where a man wielding a regular gun was considered a deadly threat
You are not doing this because you have no arguments against it.
We literally see the spine of the corpse create and dissipate a storm, same with Love Train pulling the ocean.
Tusk is above those two and therefore above anything Gojo has AP wise.

>>149259991
>We literally see the spine of the corpse create and dissipate a storm, same with Love Train pulling the ocean.

The underlying concept makes sense (if A is stronger than B, and B is stronger than C, A must be stronger than C), but when it's applied, it usually goes wrong due to a few factors.
The first of these is scaling durability to non-physical powers. Let's say I have a wizard - we'll call him Zappy - that can summon clouds and cast lightning. Zappy is good at magic, but he's still a normal human. I can stab Zappy, he will bleed, and it will hurt a lot. What a powerscaling fag will do is calculate how big the storm clouds Zappy summoned are, and say the energy needed to move them is his physical attacking strength. Not even the combat-applicable part of it (the lightning strikes), but the clouds. They will then go on to say that Zappy is a city-buster because of it, despite the fact that Zappy's most powerful spell is a lightning strike. They will THEN go on to say that Zappy can take hits from city-busters and not disintegrate immediately. So when Knifehands McGee accidentally stabs Zappy with his clunky inconvenient knifehands, they do not come to the conclusion that Zappy is otherwise a normal human with normal flesh that will bleed if stabbed with a normal knife. They come to the conclusion that Knifehands McGee is a city-buster, and since Knifehands McGee got beaten up by Chainmail Charlie after stealing his mayo sandwich at work, Chainmail Charlie is now a city buster when his only superpower is wearing chainmail armor and having a mean right hook when he's hungry.

>>149260014
I missed these

>>149259783
>Are there any that actually got downgraded after their supposed feats got debunked
If anything, more shit needs to be debunked and downgraded. Lore scaling + chain scaling is the biggest scam in the history of powerlevel faggotry.

>>149259991
uhm, post johnny tanking the entire energy of the storm concentrated in a single point. because otherwise he just doesn't scale to it.

>>149259977
he's just lucky that he doesn't crash

>>149260014
I agree with your analogy. But it doesn't apply here because the AP scaling is for Tusk, again Johnny can't punch the ground and create a crater but Tusk can.
The argument is that Tusk's AP is higher than Gojo's AP so any attack he throws would be intercepted by Humanoid Tusk.
I'll assume you are not familiar with Jojo because every time someone talks about Jojo here we need to go over the same explanations about users not being as strong as their Stands.

>>149260026
Good times

>>149260026
knifehands mcgee? nuclear bomb level

>>149260070
The entire Strom comes from the Corpse's spine that later was absorbed by Johnny, and after that retrieved to create Ticket to Ride (and subsequently Love Train) a stand Tusk was able to overpower.
If you don't like it we can go for only feats but that would put Gojo in like large building level and Tusk would still scale to Love Train's barrier he overpowered (same ability that pulled the sea towards the US)

your hero can dodge light right?

>>149260080
>we need to go over the same explanations about users not being as strong as their Stands
Unless you're Jotaro

>>149259783
>Are there any that actually got downgraded after their supposed feats got debunked?
On VSBW fate went from being Tier 1 and to returning to Island-tier with sub-relatistic speeds
Yogiri too.

>>149260157
Cool, they just need to do the same thing to Kingdom Hearts, God of War and Castlevania.

>>149259962
mmm, dimensionality isnt...hax? So... you can cope harder.

You will have lots to cope about when the movie flops but you can do it right now too

>they calculate that Columbo somehow has a faster running speed than Light Yagami
>mfw Columbo would LITERALLY be FTL

>>149260124
>The entire Strom blah blah blah
it's still a magic ability that doesn't relate to physical strenght. stands don't have a reservoir of mechanical energy they spend to physically create the things they do, they just do things because it's their power. the world isn't universe level for physically stopping and then restarting the movement of everything in the universe.

>>149260181
>Tracking has been all over the place for this one, though the trades recently reported that $125 million - $145 million was looking likely (which was a dip from very early estimates of $185 million - $200 million). At the time, many of those outlets also suggested Superman could debut on the lower end, with as little as $90 million.

>>149260181
I might see it personally

>>149260157
they also removed the blanket outerversal scaling for every single cookie run kingdom character, now only the god tiers scale to that

>>149260184
Light literally can win at any point by doing the eye deal and using the paper on his watch.

>>149260215
no, he never gained that power so he can't have it in the fight.

Damn. He said it..We were all think it and he said it..

>>149260220
Why would he not have it. He knows how to get it as soon as Misa mentions em.

Also rock lee.

>>149259783
Apparently Luffy isn't even faster than 200 miles per hour or something because he's getting blitzed by someone with that speed.

>>149260207
Cookie has actual cosmic feats, which is very fucking funny.

>>149257995
I thought Godzilla could never lose

>>149260246
yes they do, as i said the god-level characters are still outerversal
the outrageous thing is that everyone, every single character that ever appeared in crk, used to be scaled to them, but that has been debunked

>>149260338
Samething needs to happen to sonic

>>149259976
>like you are butt hurt because Johnny scales higher than your favorite character.
Not at all. I love Johnny and part 7, they're the best Jojo parts and he's the best Jojo other than Josuke. I don't love nigger mutt retard powerscalers pretending he 'scales above a storm' because of ''''''''attack potency''''''.

>Stand stats don't correlate with the stats of the user
Half your fucking entire argument is about how Johnny, the human, tanking the infinite rotation is a feat because he's tanking it's '''''''attack potency''''''. Nice try.

>he didn't even had act 2 at the time.
Oh well of course. Surely then Johnny got massively faster with each iteration of Tusk, right? Even though his speed is comparable to Gyro the entire part with every form of Tusk, even though he faces 'guys with guns' constantly throughout SBR and doesn't weave through their bullets like Neo, you can definitely show he hits FTL speeds later in the part, right?

>Then don't go into a DB thread
This is a general battleboarding thread with DB as a focus. Many matchups are discussed here outside DB's lunatic fucking logic, and this is especially the case for matchups that have not and will never happen, like whatever schizofest you dreamed up.

>It's more likely than it seems
No, it isn't. There's no comparisons between Johnny and Gojo. There's no contrasts. The matchup is not interesting to discuss beyond 'Infinite Rotation vs Limitless' which ultimately boils down to 'who knows', Gojo has a billion better opponents that would get more views if he ever came back to the show, if they end up doing a part 7 matchup it'll probably be Valentine vs Armstrong. Nobody is asking for this matchup outside of random morons like you who think 'attack potency' is a real thing. It's not happening.
Take your fucking meds.

>>149257989
They'd have sex.

My cock.
Ubel's asshole.
You do the math.

>>149260433
Kratos...

>>149258042
Thor was always stronger than Superman. They're of a similar level of power now but Thor's magic hard counters Superman and his invulnerability and regeneration are more concrete.

>>149260371
Sonic has the most in depth scaling chains on the wiki, and everyone there agrees with it, good luck downgrading him LOL

>>149260433
Frieren and her futa cock...

>>149260467
I don't use VSBW but thanks

>>149260147
>just starts fucking flying
how did he get away with this?

>>149258173
>>149258181
Hey look it's the one Deku victim.

>>149260207
Damn, the dream is dead

>>149260184
Light vs Columbo was a fist fight? I thought it would be an intelligence battle

>>149260188
At this point your argument is "I don't like this feat so it doesn't count"
Why wouldn't Tusk scale to the dimensional barrier he forced to open while said barrier was actively pulling the entire Atlantic ocean towards them?
Specially when Tusk literally had an ability that gives it infinite rotational energy

>>149258348
Superman?

You said that you enjoy swimming right Mr Yagami? What technique do you like best?

>>149260534
KOSLAVDAMN

>>149259401
Travel speed is different than combat speed. You could throw a punch at 50mph but you couldn't run that fast

>>149258539
I'm expecting it to suck ass because they're just re-using a shit character.
>>149258553
Peter Darker dies even harder if they use chain-scaling. He got one-tapped by the weakest possible version of the real Spider-Man who's only like Roadroller level in the og Ultimateverse.

>>149260543
Ah yes, my hero's ability to accelerate to massively FTL speeds within the span of a meter but suddenly lose it all and hit subsonic speeds the minute I cross beyond that threshold. Truly a terrifying weakness

>>149258713
Too bad they're doing Bison vs the vastly more popular Rugal.

>>149260508
just need to wait for the main characters to finally scale to the Beasts because currently they jobbed in the previous Beast story and only weren't killed because one of them was a faggot and would rather groom then win

>>149258618
Peter Darker's dumb and weak enough to get hurt by his own shitty venom blast that he stole from Jessica Drew in the comics, btw.

>>149260569
Rugal is SUCH a jobber in the KOF context.
Heck, if GRINGOS knew about KOF they'd know this and at least pick Goenitz instead since NESTS is way more like Shadaloo in many ways that the unnamed "evil group" Rugal is assumed to lead.

>>149259401
I agree somewhat, you need to have standards. If the character dodged light or lightning you have to prove it's actually as fast as it is and it needs to be consistent with the verse and the character's other speed feats. I've seen characters go from supersonic to lightspeed because they dodge one "lightbeam" once. Also separate the different speeds. It's not perfect, but what else can you do? Just say every non-speedster is only slightly superhuman?

>rewatched Krasura to pick out more dumb shit
>realized 99% of Kratos’s section is him beating or scaling to a guy who beat a guy who did some shit stated by a flowery statement which makes him niggerversal+
>Asura’s segment has him actually DOING SHIT outside of beating people up and the shit he does is a million times more impressive than anything Kratos does
It’s funny to see how desperate they are with trying to put Kratos anywhere near Asura’s level and they don’t even chainscale wank him right, since they don’t bother specifically mentioning the Fates/Zeus/Thor/Odin.

>>149258618
Why black = lightning?

who can survive Batman's BatFarts + Startling Kick combo?

>>149258915
Wolverine jobs out to Base Zoro so yeah.

>>149260636
because Black Lightning

>>149259064
>>149259326
ahhhh yeah
It's time.

>>149259317
The Real Spider-Man's Return.

>>149259141
Reminder that Peter Darker's mom canonically got TROONed.

>>149260673
Pedo reddit fag...

>>149260466
Thor doesn't use magic.

>>149260682
But this is fanart.

>>149260673
Teleiophile 4chan straightie..

>>149260701
The opposite should be gerontophile

>>149260696
I can confirm it's canon

>>149260371
Sonic scaling? Sound and reasonable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBQcURqft6o

>>149260379
>matchup it'll probably be Valentine vs Armstrong.
which is terrible in itself, yeah guy who can fucking come back from the dead vs guy who can't stop that, gee nice one

>>149258956
Peter Darker......

>>149258988
Nah that's the dog.

>>149258999
pedobro.....

>>149260665
>AIEEEEEE MOMMY JENOVA HELP ME MY WALL LEVEL ILLUSION ATTACK IS FUARKING JOBBING TO CHADZEN
>Time to gape you like I gaped Madara in True Canon Reality.

Who are the major characters of /dbg/? I'm thinking
>TNanon
>DocGreen and other assorted Halpedos
>Beyonderbro (rest in peace)
>Otto
>NOLIMITSman
>KINGtos
>Thorscholars
>Lukeposter
>Invincibleposter
>Reimuposter
>Bayobro
>Makimasissy
>Xianxiakek
>WoDposter
>Gokubro
Who else?

>>149259108
Even a non-bloodlusted Mineta can beat Peter Darker. He's that pathetic. The real Spider-Man does in fact solo even a composited MHA however.

>>149259130
Gojo is for Gyro and Kisuke.

>>149260830
More like just Gyro. Urahara would be a one-sided slaughterfest for either of them

>>149260810
>AizenFRAUDs coping delusion

>>149259218
>Yujiro
For Younger Toguro.
>Eren Yeager
For Paul Atreidas.
>Ken Kaneki
For the dude from Parasyte.
>Punisher
For Judge Dredd.
>Red Hood
Already had his best against Bucky.
>Invincible
For Kid Nova.
>Luke Skywalker
For Artoria Pendragon.

>>149259223
nah it's OP.

>>149260817
3-0fag
Simonposter

>>149260817
everyone on the list
if you're not on the list then you're irrelevant

>>149260817
I don't know if we can ever match Beyonderbro and his sheer insanity, probably the closest these thread have ever come to a true /dbs/tier schizo, but someone like the Reimuposter could definitely get there if they made more oc.

>>149260830
Gojo is for Kakashi.

>>149259609
Tony Soprano vs Michael Corleone.

>>149260854
>actual canonical cuck who needs Usopp to get hard

>>149259609
Ultraman DC vs Ultraman (Tojo)

>>149260868
It's incredibly in character for Gojo to look so happy with a man riding him

>>149259818
Yeah. They also mentioned Asgard being infinitely away from reality and Thor travels there and back all the time.

>>149260922
They also forgot to mention Goku moving in white space in his base form and Bejita being the same speed as him making Bejita and Goku's speed in base immeasurable.

>>149260242
Might wanna check again, mate.

>>149260868
>>149260894
Imagine when kakashi sticks his fingers up his ass

>>149260922
I find it amusing Thorjeets actually use this image seriously when it was made to mock Death Battle for their standards getting lower and lower over time

>>149260937
Gojo would love it.

>>149260241
......sucks.
https://youtu.be/74it3NlV6Qc?si=vljq2vMcp42nslfS

>>149260694
Retardbro.....

>>149260942
Does anyone even know who made it? DB themselves used the image for a gag in Bill vs Discord.

>>149260696
nah it's true, "Gwen" is a confirmed troon in Token-Verse.

>>149260624
Bison is also a jobber who loses in every ending of every game. That's why they're perfect for each other.

>>149260931
>CHADward out of NOWHERE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LoOy4_F2a44
Also a dimensional boundary breaking feat btw

>>149260817
>>149260864
Gojobro I guess

>>149260978
IMMEASURABLE BEAST who defeats EVERY CHARACTER IN DEATH BATTLE EVER...

>>149260844
Aizen wins as he's voiced by the GOAT actually.

>>149260934
What is this supposed to show?

>>149260865
Alot can change in 4 years tho

>>149260864
Simon won, DumbCuck.

>>149261010
FUAAAAARK! BEAST the Cat.... and several wall tier jobbers

>>149260467
Post sonic destroying an universe

>>149261010
My HERO (Singular Intended) and his slaves!

>>149260868
nah he's for Kisuke.

>>149261023
I-i can post leechscaling with flowery statements

>>149260978
Its just Goku and Bejita can do that in their base forms and have several forms that multiply their speed by 50, 100, etc. God forms are an infinite boost on their already infinite speed.

>>149261010
CHADba and his faithful pet CHADamaru, along with their vassals.

>>149260887
......in your homoerotic fantasies.

>>149261031
Nah Gojo would rather kiss- I mean fight Kakashi. Your literal who character would just cause the episode to flop.

>>149260630
>better man is listed as a feat

>>149261044
>infinity x infinity = x (>infinity)
woah, isn't that a little... retarded?

>>149260690
Obsecuretard.....

>>149261064
Infinity^Infinity
Thats just their god forms ontop of their base. Blue and MUI multiple the double infinite power and speed our heroes already have.

>>149261059
KEKashi already jobbed in his best and Gojo is based on Kisuke anyway. Even GeGe said JJK is Bleach inspired.

>>149261052
...which are Oda's, according to SBS 54.

>>149261031
I don't remember Urahara ever having a homoerotic relationship like Gojo does with Geto and Kakashi does with Guy, he is clearly the odd man out and is unlikely to be a fellow member of the Uranian Brotherhood

*incomprehensible niggerbabble noises*

>>149261084
>infinity^infinity = x (>infinity)
woah, isn't that a little... retarded?

>>149261084
But can Goku add +1 to his infinite power to be more infinite?

>>149261097
Calm down, Miles

>>149261091
>Kisuke isn't a faggot like the other 2
He won.

>>149260977
No? He wins on his own and he beating ryu in SFA2 is the canon ending to that game that leads directly into sfa3

He also beats Juri, Seth, Rose, Nash, Cammy, Chun, etc.

>>149261086
Kakashi's best fight is against Gojo though. His design is also based on a minor Naruto character, Tonbo Tobitake. https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64762718/

>>149261097
>DC/Marvelfags out of NOWHERE

>>149261050
>>149261010

>>149261097
not cool that you posted this to mock Miles, Deku

>>149261133
Kratos just got speed blitzed by this

>>149261131
What stops DMS Kakashi from just Kamuing Gojo and TRAPPING and BETRAYING him in the cuck dimension for a week until he dies of natural causes

>>149261118
Yes is great at math because hes Asian.

>>149261097
>Kratos out of NOWHERE

>>149261133
SOMEONE CALL HELP! KRATOS JUST GOT RED MISTED BY THE VIBRATIONS OF THEIR FOOTSTEPS!

>>149261129
He literally loses to every in every canonical ending of the main SF series, retardbro. He and Rugal were tailor made for one another. Also since they have KOF consistently above SF anyway, Rugal still wins off of higher grade chainscaling.

>>149261152
>GT
>fanfic manga nobody reads

>infinity
jobs to NaN and undefined speed

>>149261131
>>149261150
Nope, KEKashi had his best match already against the dude that his series ripped off of.

>>149261176
That's Toyo's toilet paper, GT is the animated shit stream nobody watched.

>>149261133
>shitty animation
What did he mean by this?

>>149261195
>ignores your physical stats with superior hax
>proceeds to GAPE you
YEP YEP! That's why I'm the strongest character in fiction.

>>149261212
>Dragon Ball Super OUT OF NOWHERE

>>149261044
Well yeah but Thor’s Mjolnir actually crossed distance and Goku didn’t do shit

>>149261135
Yes it is, Peter Darker sucks. Even Marvel fans hate him.

My HERO IS A FUARKING CONSTRUCTION CHAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUARKKKKKKKKKKK!!

>>149261216
Narutard and Bore-uturd got shit animation too, though.

>>149261215
We know KINGtos

>>149261248
Mostly just in the filler, which is the same for all anime.

>>149261217
Speed=Distance and time. Goku can freely move in space where theres no time or Distance so he has immeasurable speed. Thor's hammer wouldnt be able to travel anywhere in a void unlike base Goku.

>>149261242
Does He-CHAD have anything that counters this?

>>149261260
Nah in the official arcs too. Remember how laughably bad Pain vs Naruto looked?

Who wins?

>>149261268
the new movie he's getting a Superman origin so maybe soon

>>149261168
No? He canonically wins in SFA2, and no one defeats him in SF4

>>149261294
new movie?

>>149261291
The funny part is that force TK just bypasses Limitless

>>149261274
>One example
Also the bad parts lasted for all of a few seconds.

>>149261303
yes

>>149261302
He gets shit on literally everywhere else lol. And no in the Alpha games he still gets bodied by Ryu and Akuma. He couldn't even fucking take out Nash, a fucking random ass helicopter had to do it for him. A fucking helicopter scales above Bison lmfao. Can't wait for them to do Bison vs Rugal so we can lead into another uproariously funny L for the Capcucks, and right after As-who-ra got done getting fed his own shit by Kratos too.

>>149261311
It all looked shit. Pain looked like a literal fish and him getting his body slammed into the ground repeatedly made him look boneless and as stretchy as Mr. Fantastic, which obviously wasn't the intention. Shippuden's animation is pisspoor. Even Madara vs the Shinobi Alliance is too messy and rushed in animation to comprehend what the fuck is even going on.

Bill Nye vs Beakman

>>149261350
I never got those vibes from it.

>>149261365
Bill Nye's feats?

>>149261350
And this STILL looks better than the ENTIRETY of One PISS and Bleach

>>149261326
>Lucas Till as He-Man
BASED!

How come there aren't many female vs female death battles

>>149261220
To be fair there are xitterfags saying he's spiderman. Whether you think they are "real" or just performative is up to you

>>149261372
One Piece's recent animation is really good ngl. And Bleach always looked more clear even years ago. There's some good and clear fights in Naruto, like Maito Gai vs Juubidara or Sasuke vs Kakashi, but the bad and poorly animated fights vastly outweigh the good ones.

>>149261406
>using shitter as a basis for anything
Lol

>>149261291
Gojo really has no counter to Obi-Wan just force choking him to death.

>>149261291
Know what? I can see people whining about Obi Wan dying so easily because he was ‘hype and aura farming’ if Star Wars came out today.

>hulk almost died to hedorah, never fought godzilla
>thor fights a powered up godzilla and both of them explode

>>149261442
>expands domain

>>149261392
The vast majority of characters that are popular and fitting enough for the show are male and female vs female matchups are usually not as fun as the rest.

Can't you defeat Thor with a whisper and make him unworthy?

>>149261460
Vrahno reaction images are top-tier desu.

>>149261392
Sexless catfights don't draw dimes.

>>149261442
>Gojo really has no counter to Obi-Wan just force choking him to death.
Most characters in fiction don't. Telekinesis is such a hard power to write around imo, because if your character has it, the question is always "why doesn't this character instantly end every fight by telekinetically choking his enemy, or ripping them in half, or crushing their heart, or tearing their brain apart, or dropping a building on them, or...? See where I'm going with this? There's no counter to someone just killing you with their mind before you can even close the distance and throw a punch at them

>>149261486
>thor's fighting loki
>run up to him and whisper pee pee poo poo
>he loses power

>>149261392
>HUNTRI/X
For Sam and Dean Winchester

>>149261497
well everyone else who's important is a jedi/sith and has telekinesis to counter the telekinesis.

>>149261497
>regen
>durability stronger than their telekinesis
>being intangible

What kind of cruel and unusual deaths have we not had on the show yet? I'm thinking of making a list of sorts.

>>149260889
Toho Ultraman is for Superman.

>>149260868
This pic is weirdly cursed

>>149261538
Despite being made by the same special effects team (Tsuburaya Productions), and having several actors and actresses, composers, script writers and directors crossing over, Ultraman (Tsuburaya Productions) is not a Toho character. They're basically step brothers.

>>149261392
There's a bunch of Marvel vs DC ones, what are you talking about?

>>149260817
I can see myself two, sometimes, 3 times here, but I know there's other people who post the same characters as me

>>149261537
Yujiro NEEDS to rape whoever loses to him. It wouldn’t be in-character otherwise

>>149261559
He's a giant japanese alien thing. He's basically as close to a Toho thing as something that's non-Toho can get.

>>149261497
CHADémon? Take no damage from the move Telekinesis, comfirming complex outerversal anti-telekinesis hax.

>>149261569
Too bad he loses all his matchups.

>>149261572
Yeah, Godzilla even made run ins during the Ultraman theme park days to help the Ultras out. That's how good of friends the companies were. It's sort of like how Tamagotchi and Digimon are considered different things, but they're just, the same thing.

>>149261483
>Obi already got put at star-level feats with planetary telepathy and massively FTL against Kakashi
>Gojo’s verse caps out at large city level and Mach 3 speed.

>>149261580
He beats Homelander dough via continental throwing hax

>>149261392
They've historically done relatively poorly. In all the history of the show, the first female vs female episode that shows up if you sort by popularity in descending order seems to be Yang vs Tifa at number 46 or so. It places 100k more than Cuphead vs Bendy, a DBX. The next highest is Peach vs Zelda, which is actually beaten by Cuphead vs Bendy. I think they should do Barbie vs Kitty White, just as a pure numbers test. I also think they should have done Cuphead vs Bendy at some point, but that iron is probably glacially cold now.

>>149261584
Sounds nice.

>>149261585
Imagine Obi-Wan just ripping Gojo apart with his bare hands like how he did to Grievous lol

>>149261595
This is a retarded meme. Barbie vs G.I. Joe is the real matchup.

>>149261595
You ever see that stop motion show about Sanrio characters, where Hello Kitty opens her house door, and gets farted on by three of her friends who then haul ass and leave her to deal with the stench?

If your villain never Raped someone they are second rate villains

>>149261528
>regen
Doesn't really matter if I can pick you up with my mind and hurl you in the ocean or outer space
>durability stronger than their telekinesis
Very rarely is this a limit for telekinesis users
>being intangible
A rare counter to telekinesis
>>149261514
>well everyone else who's important is a jedi/sith and has telekinesis to counter the telekinesis.
Yeah, Star Wars has force bubbles around force wielders if I remember correctly

HELP DONKEY KONG HAS BROKEN INTO MY HOUSE AND IS WATER BOARDING ME WITH MILK

>>149261590
That's only because Homolander and his entire verse are even more pitifully weak than Yujiro is. Yujiro still gets shit on by everyone else. Akuma, Silber, Younger Toguro, Tai Lung, Kenpachi, Garou, Kazuya, Heihachi, etc.

>>149261585
>FTL Star Wars
still makes me laugh

>>149261608
That's even more retarded, what the fuck is Joe Colton going to do against the various Goddess and Superhero Barbies? That bitch can do the Superman reverse time by pushing the planet shit. Naw, at least make it a debate, and test the waters for the female audience.

https://youtu.be/cmrv4Pa6gnk
Gojo has no counter to this

>>149261616
>has regen + mftl+ speed and flight to ignore bfr

>>149261629
>Star level
How?
>>149261624
Is your favorite character knuckles?

Someone redpill me on how Featherine is High-Outerversal when she's only two composite layers of fiction and Maelle from Clair Obscur isn't at least 1-A even though she jobs to fire.

>>149261644
>Infinity BLOCKS the force waves

>>149259629
Real one is still sitting on deliveries from a couple days ago, say to say he'll deliver when he delivers

>>149261652
Look out your window.

>>149261679
I like DK tho,I'll give him a banana so he can fuck off

>>149261629
It’s dumb, and mostly “but muh reaction speed” shit of people trying to argue that Han Solo’s head-tilt is faster than his own ship can fly through hyperspace.
But at this point if Death Battle doesn’t put people at FTL it’s a surprise.
Under Sanity a rules, Obi Wan probably loses, but under Death Battle Autism, Obi stomps.

>>149261682
I said look out your window.

>>149261629
Didn't they argue it was because the characters can navigate starships at MFTL speeds? Iirc Stitch got the same speed meta because of that too.
>>149261652
The Star level thing came from a novel that a supposedly weaker Jedi was able to do iirc.

>Boomstick: I dunno, Wiz. I've seen the movies, and Jedi have never done shit like that.
>Wiz: Well, other mediums have greatly expanded upon Jedi capabilities. Some are even powerful enough to hold together entire planets.
MY FUARKING WANKING BEASTS!!!!

>>149261689
So sundisk scaling ok

>>149261333
Cope and seethe

Bison only ever loses in sf2 and sf5
He flat out doesnt lose in sfa1/2 and only dies on sfa3 to ryu canonically

>>149261608
Nah Composite Barbie VS Composite Hello Kitty can lead to goofy shit

>>149261616
Come to think of it, OPM has telekinesis (Saitama resists it).

>>149261693
oh boy i guess i cannot use GT Goku in debates cuz Daima and Super exists!

Legends and Disney are separate continuities

cope and seethe

>>149261700
That's just because CHADtama beats all of fiction, EVEN Popeye the Sailor Man.

>>149261291
Depends if Kenobi goes for the kill immediately. I don't think Gojo has an answer to The Force but Kenobi doesn't have an answer to the infinity domain expansion thing

>>149260817
I am 7 of these

>>149261705
>the movies aren't canon to legends

>>149261693
I like the idea that Chad probably knows everything they spout is BS, but just goes along with it anyway.

>>149261718
Why would they not be

>>149261497
>force choke a bleach character
>they reiatsu crush in retaliation
this idea seems fun so I had to post it

>>149261291
Gojo because Infinity blocks energy and force telekinesis operates on manipulating force energy to affect the target. Gojo has no force energy inside his barrier. Obi Wan's wincon is launching him into space via hurling the rock he's on and speedblitzing him while Gojo's is just using domain expansion. I think Gojo takes it.

Stacking infinities is a meme.
Any math function

Infinity + 1
Infinity + Infinity
Infinity squared
Infinity^Infinity

Are all just Infinity.
cardinals are different because through mathfagging Infinity is minimized and partitioned, and the infinity can achieve more elements and complexity on its way to infinity, and they can only exist logically if the setting and cosmology enforces this mathematical relationship itself

>>149261625
He atomizes tai furry ass. The only way he wins if the fucking not xianxia scaling from the tv show gets brought

>>149261726
You're too stupid to function.

>>149261739
>The Force is an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.
If Makima got Cursed Energy, then it makes no sense for Gojo not to get connected to The Force. This is basic verse equalization shit.

>>149261695
Bison gets shit on in every ending and jobbed out to both Ryu and Akuma in the Alpha games, and only doesn't job in 4 because he's not even the main villain there. Everywhere else he jobs and sucks ass. Oh yeah and he still loses to Rugal, since they consistently have KOF above SF. Get ready for another L, Capcuck.

>>149261744
>cardinals are different
They aren't. Cardinal scaling is a giant meme that anyone who actually knows anything about math would spit on because cardinals are only "bigger" in one specific way that has nothing to do with actual value. Unfortunately, powerscalers either no nothing about math or do and don't care so they can wank their fav.

>>149261722
Chad's been doing that since probably season 3 or 4

Calculating Thor's speed and strength is meaningless. He's a God. Gods are beings made of magic. Magic is stated in Marvel to be boundless, even capable of surpassing TOAA. Thor himself said his strength and speed will always be relative to his will power to rise up against adversity.

>>149261773
*know, before anyone else corrects me.

>>149261733
Huh?

>>149261761
The force in legends is legit conceptual, iirc

>>149261777
why does he lose all the time then

>>149261773
I didn't say it wasn't a meme, I was describing what it is and how it describes "bigger infinites" in mathematics but then again not really

>>149261803
because he willed it

>>149261733
Palpatine vs Aizen. Who wins?

>>149261777
>CHADor is Infinitely into Infinity
Holy.....

JJKSISTERS THE NEW CSM TRAILER DROPPED AND IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD!
WE NEED TO GROUP UP IN THE DISCORD TO PLAN OUR NEXT MOVE, NOOOOOOOOOW!

>>149261773
Doesn't cardinals line up how dimensions see shit below them?

>>149261828
Sum (∞, ∞, ∞)
Now,
Sum (∞, ∞, ∞, ∞)

They are the same value, but the latter has more elements in it.

>>149261828
No. Cardinals line up how some injective mappings are bigger than other injective mappings. It's a scam and they're lying to you.

>>149261808
Aizen via higher scaling to Yhwach who could effect multiple universes.

>>149261818
I feel like Denji beating Yuji on DB is inevitable. i don't have any reason to believe it, but i just have a gut feeling that Yuji winning would never happen, even if it was reasonable. I felt the same about the possibility of Eggman beating Bowser, Death Battle just wouldn't do that.

>>149261847
>Palpatine
>Skill
Aizen is a >1000 years old spirit wizard. what does the <1000 space wizard have on him

>infinity
smt wins again.

>>149261739
How does Gojo not just solo literally all of fiction? He has like the most effective wincon possible with Infinity.

>>149257982
K, B, C

>>149261868
Because he jobs to "nuh uh my attack doesn't need to cross any distance" (fuck you Gege you CAN'T write) and also blowing up the planet

>>149261864
I think he meant skill as in hand to hand/combative skill but you could argue that Aizen still takes even that as he's a master in every form of combat including Hakuda/Hand-To-Hand Combat, which means he can fight as well as Yoruichi or an unarmed Kisuke who casually took out almost a whole prison of the most dangerous captives of the Soul Society with Hakuda.

>>149261868
Because he's another oxygen victim

>>149261868
Heroes that surpass the infinite are a dime a dozen. Even in his own series he's beaten by a simple slashing attack.

>>149261868
Because he jobs to Solo King Itachi as Totsuka Blade seals Infinity and Yata Mirror reflects Unlimited Void. But none of that matters as he was already under his Genjutsu this entire time...

>>149261865
I seriously need to get around playing SJ, but press turn is too fun...

>>149261868
Because he got murdered by a strafe cut in his own series, doesn't have answers to a lot of other hax and there are characters in fiction that could brute force through infinity rather than bypass him and the just rape his asshole.

>>149261916
Shitachi jobbed to cancer and coughing vs Gojo who is 100% healthy. Gojo wins.

>>149261916
CANON

>>149261765
again i debunked you
cope and seethe

>>149261930
Itachi only lost to cancer because he threw to let the story continue. He owed Kishimoto a favor after losing a bet to him during one of his many travels to the real world.

>>149261942
You didn't debunk anything. Bison is a Rugal victim which means that any low or mid tier fighter in KOF can solo all of Shit Fighter because Rugal is a jobber there, but not as much of one as Bishit is, fortunately. Sorry, Capcuck.

>>149261916
Undeniable truth. Perhaps TOAA would fair better.

What is the most evenly matched/debatable fight for Gojo?

>>149261949
He also ran away from that weakling Jiraiya like a little bitch, don't forget.

>NaruSHIT
Jobs to NTR

>>149261979
Probably Kakashi or Urahara

>>149261979
Dazai from Bungou Stray Dogs.

>>149261291
Surprised no one mentioned how Gojo could just filter out the force since its supposed to be an energy field
>inb4 its omnipresent
Yeah so is gravity and Gojo can filter that since that's how he's able to fly

>>149262000
>All of it commissioned by one mentally ill chink
They job to life

>>149261777
>>149261803
>Calculating Thor's speed and strength is meaningless. He's a God. Gods are beings made of magic. Magic is stated in Marvel to be boundless, even capable of surpassing TOAA. Thor himself said his strength and speed will always be relative to his will power to rise up against adversity.
How do Thorfags cope with Thor being offscreened in most of Marvel's crossover events? Take Days of Future's Past for example, where Thor gets BTFO and killed by the sentinels. He was so irrelevant that they didn't even draw him in the panel when they were talking about the heroes of marvel all being killed.

>>149261968
Rugal hasn't been in a KOF game since 98UM because he was canonically killed in his second appearance, which was after his original death.

Bison treats death like a vacation. Rugal just gets replaced.

>>149261979
Someone who can maybe tank Unlimited Void and maybe get past Infinity is the most even and debatable. If they can do the former but not the latter it's probably a stalemate and if they can do the latter but not the former it's anyone's game.

>>149261979
Geto's cock

>>149262000
Yeah true.

>>149261979
How about Palkia
>control over space
>fruity effeminate color scheme
>beloved by zoomer faggots who think their garbage source material is the best in its genre

It's perfect

>>149262045
Boundless+1 BVLL beyond CANON

>>149262027
FUAAAARK! THE CHADMERICAN MILITARY'S CHADTINELS ARE BOUNDLESS BEASTS!

>>149262030
That just means Rugal gets to kill JOBson over and over and over again. So JOBson gets got like Thanos did lol.

>>149262030
>Bison treats death like a vacation.
Because xe's trans and being dead is preferable to being forced to live in that male body. Someday xe will put xer brain in Cammy's body like xe's always dreamed of.

>>149262055
.......which is what I would say if I wasn't talking about Narutard.

>>149262063
Arabros...

>>149262074
R34 raikage solos Shounen

Thorbros? How could we let fucking Absorbing Man kill our guy like this?

>>149262096
Pic rel? Absorbing Man after absorbing Itachi's cumstains.

>>149262096
Is this your hero, thorbros?

>>149262109
Honestly this isn't the most humiliating death for him, didn't he die one time to fucking electrocution?

>>149262096
>>149262109
THORXISTERS EMERGENCY DISCORD MEETING NOW!!!!

>>149262096
>>149262109
Thor was holding back out of fear of killing everyone in that picture on accident.

>>149262123
He dies from this I'll post the confirmation later

>>149261333
Well, i already debunked that he always loses

sf1 - not even in that
sf2 - canonically beat by akuma
sf3 - already dead
sf4 - he beats seth, juri, and everyone else
alpha - isnt beaten by anyone
alpha 2 - he beats Ryu
alpha 3- loses to ryu

Spider-CHAD WONAROOOOOOOOOO!!!

>>149262181
Comics being comics

Memes aside though, why do people love Thor so much? To me he's always been that weird and boring guy that's super honorable and speaks in Shakespearean dialect

>>149262030
>>149262068
Rugal has a literal SCALING CHAIN below the entire cast post kof 95

>still seething
How did Thor do it?

>>149262185
Damn, Kamen Rider Ichigo loses to that

>>149262080
...only in your pathetic cukloving fantasies

>>149262187
Too be fair he somehow recovers from this but it's funny to think it's possible
>>149262199
He's strong and people like that

>>149262185
Not so fast

>>149262185
Damn, nice ass.

>>149262027
Pretty well. It’s Thor. Everyone knows these stories don’t work if he’s still a good guy in whatever bad end

>>149262219
I remember when this happened in that one issue of Amazing Spider-Man, kek

>Godzilla vs Thor finally got scans

Nice

>>149262211
>He's strong and people like that
But why Thor? Why him over someone like say Superman or the Hulk? What's Thor's appeal as a character?

>>149262199
When I read about him, it’s like I’m in a whole new mythic story from the past and there’s a certain awe

>>149262319
>When I read about him, it’s like I’m in a whole new mythic story from the past and there’s a certain awe
Do you have any stories you recommend for someone new to Thor?

>>149262261
>>149262261
Move.

New thread
>>149262326

>>149262308
Not a Thorfag but superman is rarely a universe buster in most stories, he's mainly moon level in most stories. I'm pretty sure there is some overlap between Hulk and Thor fags but Hulk mostly focuses on Bruce's insecurities while Thor's biggest "flaw" is that he WAS arrogant but he does cool stuff like destroy galaxies. I could be wrong but that's what I think the appeal is

>>149262322
Roy Thomas Thor and Avengers I feel are pretty solid for wha t’s “the day to day” of Thor compared to the stories that break the mold

>>149262219
>Seething Polish pedophile babble

>>149261693
>Just because Luke never destroyed a galaxy, doesn’t mean he CAN’T!

>>149262308
Norse mythos itself is fun, you have adventures and ice giants and other worlds.

>>149261851
Yuji SHOULD have MUs other than Denji and Deku. But he’s so fucking generic that I can’t actually think of any fights that have solid connections for him.

>>149261808
>the dangai is made of currents of time floating in the void. fodder shinigami can stop it
>Yamamoto could destroy soul society, including Muken (infinite prison)
>Aizen destroyed dangai's cleaner, a creature that, despite the fact it is entirely made of dangai's stuff (time currents), is considered to be made of reason. captain level shinigami feared it so it is stronger than dangai's average time currents.
>Aizen uses Black Coffin on Ichigo. It distorts spacetime. It should be way stronger than dangai's time currents and the cleaner.
>Aizen's plan was to created his own Royal Guard. The Royal Guard can casually make three universes quake.
>A stronger Aizen failed to destroy his chair (made of the same stuff as muken) after using a stronger black coffin. (He also tanked it.) Captains that can alter space (urahara, shunsui) fled.
>SK Yhwach's attack pulverizes the chair with ease but Aizen is unharmed. This allows Aizen to actually move.
>Aizen uses a forbidden Dragon spell that uses the sorrounding Ley Lines. The Oken he wanted to create linked to the Royal Palace's ley line thus allowing Oken to stop Schrift Hax that bypasses Spiritual Pressure, in specific The Love and The Underbelly. The latter was capable of almost emptying Aizen's reiatsu (The owner of the Schrift was surprised that Aizen was only knocked out)
>SK Yhwach attacks Aizen and puts a hole in him but Aizen is alive without issues.
Palpatine cannot hurt Aizen. He needs to go full Force Ghost but I don't think Force Ghosts have enough Soul to tank bleach soul attacks

>>149260868
LEGENDS!!!!