Most people who I see praise this movie seem to not be interested in comic books. They take it for what it is and as someone who actually likes Superman the whole thing felt more like a parody of everything I like about him. I was sat in the theatre and felt like I was being mocked.

What us the general /co/nsensus nearly a week in?

>>149439300 (OP)
good movie

>>149439300 (OP)
And when I say they "take it for what it is" I mean they see Superman as this boy scout who's always trying to be nice and he fights a monster and saves the day and kisses Lois Lane. They have a bias towards him and this movie was what they... expected. Specifically I'm reffering to Red Letter Media who spent the last the decade largely ignoring capeshit only to come out reviewing this positively.

>>149439300 (OP)
Don't bother nobody on /co/ actually reads comics

Somebody compared Superman Legacy to Batman and Robin and I cannot unsee it. I suppose you can call it a parody but it's a parody the same way Gunn's Scooby Doo movie was a parody. He doesn't really like these properties so he doesn't take it seriously.

>>149439340
Not true. I read older comics. Like everything before 2009

>>149439300 (OP)
i like comic books and i like this movie

>>149439300 (OP)
Everyone I know who reads comics who watched it liked or loved it

This will be a pointless thread

>>149439300 (OP)
here's the TL;DR for the movie:

>a great comic book movie
tainted by the Gunn's DUDE WEED sense of humor
>with a great lead actor
hampered by the fact that he's playing a clueless loser and not actually Kal-El

literally everything else about the movie is perfect except for Hawkwoman being played by an oompa loompa and Guy Gardner being 83 years old

My favorite part is when the Justice Gang are fighting a "fifth dimensional imp" and Superman is just moping around Lois' apartment and sipping coffee.
I stood up in the cinema and shouted wow this is definitely something Superman would do! Just talk about his favorite rock band with Lois and ignore the fight going on five blocks from her flat!
t. Toyman Jr.

>>149439393
>>149439389
>>149439432
Can I ask what you like about it? I promise I'm not trying to be a cunt or trying to do a gotcha. I just walked away feeling dreadful for having seen it.

>>149439518
>good score
>lex luthor was deliciously petty
>guy gardner
but i will admit there was some stupid stuff. i respect gunn for putting krypto in the movie, and he was fine at first, but every time he reappeared i rolled my eyes a little harder and him going sicko mode on lex was fucking stupid.

>>149439518
NTA but i agree with >>149439488
Superman should have stepped in to help atleast a little
His kryptonian parents shouldn't have been evil, all they had to do was add in one scene after the big finale where maybe Mr Terrific finds out they got the translation wrong and showed him the real latter half of the message that doesn't make his parents into the saiyains from DBZ hopefully the sequels can fix this or something if they make Zod show up.
Hawkgirl screeching was fucking annoying and would have been better if they replaced her screeches with an actual Hawk cry and only the first time she charges in each scene instead of continously throughout each time she shows up.

Thats every complaint I have but I liked the fight scenes, I liked that he tries to think in the fights instead of just punching harder than the bad guy like when he throws Ultraman into the bus being sucked into the black hole or when he flies into space and lands back down to get rid of the Engineers nanobots and Lex even tells him brains over brawn to mock him when hes fighting Ultraman which then he flips on its head by destroying to drones to force Ultraman whos dumber but stronger to fight him without Lex guiding him, I liked that it felt like he had a real connection to his earth parents and I like that it makes him seem like his number one priority is trying to save lives no matter where or what because of his ideals like when he saves the fucking dog and squirrel and tries to save the big monster or how he steps in the stop a hostile invasion of a nation even though the USA is allied with the invaders.

>>149439518
I treat them as an elseworlds. Which in comics I don't really care for a ton of out-of-continuity stories. I didn't care for the zoomer jokes and the CGI looked rough, but the action was clever abd satisfying and packed a lot more Superman stuff into this than most of the other films. Actors did a much better job than the last two reboots. Some of the humor wasn't bad. I like that he inspired Metamorpho and the other heroes to be better. The dialogue bordered on too corny at times but it was charming. Soundtrack wasn't crazy but I liked that a lot of scenes weren't overly loud so it made all the weirdness really feel normal for their world. Cool set design and "brain beats brawn" was an obvious but appreciated line to use.

"Tall, dark, and martian isn't my type" might be the funniest line in a capeshit movie and they need more humor like that instead of awkward stuff

>whole thing felt more like a parody of everything I like about him

The fuck does this even mean? What are you bitching about?

>>149439300 (OP)
I love STAS and I thought this movie was finally a return to what Superman is supposed to be. Not a tortured god, not the one guy stuck leading the JL, just a good man doing the best he can to save as many lives as possible.

>>149439488

You realize Superman doesn't step in if he feels other people are doing a good job, right? He helps when you need it. They had it well in hand and the city was fine.

>Snyderjeet thread #370863488
Curious how much they obsess over a failure.

I hated the sheer amount of joking in this movie. It gave you no time to breathe. A man gets shot in front of Superman and he's screaming and crying (something he did way to much in this fucking movie) and its followed up with a joke. Lex is like "next I'll get that reporter Clark Kent!" And Metamorpho is comedically autistically screeching.
For being such a big brain Lex just yelling out his evil plans in earshot of a guy with Superhearing is the single most retarded thing I've seen happen on screen ever. He also has a private island that plays this loud music and leads to a portal where he keeps his ex girlfriends and Mr. Terrific easily finds it but Superman doesn't. Lex breaks into the fortress of solitude and everyone just accepts that he decoded the Kryptonian message including the 33 year old who'd been listening to it for decades. And despite the b&e Lex is put in charge of jailing Superman by the US government. This is after Lex admits to putting nanobots in a woman and cloning a dude with reckless abandon. Instead of laughing him out the room or arresting him they just put him in charge. So thats cool. I didn't like how the majority of the movie Superman gets beat up or cries or screams like a man-baby. Gunn really over corrected by making him human. Similarly I didn't like how the Kents are portrayed in this. They're midwestern not Southern. Don't know what that was about. Also Jimmy Olsen cucking Lex Luthor should never be a sentence outside of Tumblr fan art and yet here in this movie it becomes a reality.

I did like the shot near the end where Lex is center frame and it cuts to Superman in center frame. Actual cool shot. And I did like Guy Gardener and Mr. Teriffic. Except the parts where they kill innocent civilians and soldiers.

So honestly this movie is dreck to me and I'm meant to see it again with some friends. Fuck. Fuuuuuuck.

>>149440018
Where was Snyder mentioned up until your post? Fucking Gunnkey schizo.

>>149440014
Not true. Don't know where you got that. Lets take Batman Cataclysm/No Man's Land. Superman was literally there helping people out before Batman told him to fuck off like he knew Batman would. It didn't stop him from trying. He's always there to lend a hand. Doesn't matter if it looks like "they got it." Especially if the threat is so close Lois can see it and goes "Aren't you going to help?"

>>149440034

>comedically autistically screeching

No, he was having an understandable breakdown. Have you considered that maybe you just lack empathy?

>>149440093

Superman knew Batman was in over his head, in that case. He knows Bruce. He's prideful about Gotham and doesn't like people stepping in, even if he needs the help.

Batman did not "have it", and I'm not sure why you think he did.

>>149440034
I personally loved it, but just tell your friends you can't make it. Or fake being sick. Or just tell them you thought it sucked lol I skipped the last forty comic movies

>>149440107
Everyone in my theatre laughed so I assumed it was meant to be played up. Though they may have been responding to the Clark Kent joke. That doesn't defeat my argument

>>149440163
It's humorous but the line isn't delivered like one. It's a showing how little Lex gives a shit about life and wants to hurt Superman. Also when did he cry? I don't remember anyone tearing up in the movie

>>149440124
Batman literally did have it by the end with just him, Babs, Cass, and a handful of GCPD. And he even went to Washington where Lex was the president to get aid. But Superman stepped in anyway. Batman doesn't tell him to fuck off because he was more concerned for his pride than asking for another hero's help. He wanted Gotham as a whole to pull itself out of that mess.
>>149439340
Guess you were right.

>>149440034
>And Metamorpho is comedically autistically screeching.
His infant son was in INSANE levels of mortal danger and held for who knows how long without due process

>>149440199
Off the top of my head he tears up during the mock interview with Lois
He cries when the message about why he was sent to Earth is revealed
He cries when he can't find Krypto
He cries when the pajeet gets shot
He cries when he's recovering at Kent farm
>>149440221
Again people in my theatre were laughing so I thought it was meant to be funny. "My bad"

>>149440257
By the way. Each time he's crying is followed up by joke or unnecessary levity. Thats my point. The movie gives no time for scenes to breath and has to quickly rush pass the emotional bits.

>>149440257
>Off the top of my head he tears up during the mock interview with Lois
Don't recall this.
>He cries when the message about why he was sent to Earth is revealed
>He cries when he can't find Krypto
>He cries when the pajeet gets shot
No, he yelled for the last two and the first he calmly tried to say it wasn't true but it clearly ruined his mood. He quickly got angry and then worried for Krypto.
>He cries when he's recovering at Kent farm
I have to rewatch because I can't remember if he did here or not.

>>149439300 (OP)
I go on /co/ for threads on animated film and don't have an emotional attachment to either DC or MCU movies. I've always thought Superman movies in general were never that good. The best thing about this movie was the casting of Superman and Lois Lane, they're fucking perfect and I wish the movie was just a simple plot with them (and Krypto if necessary but even him being CG was annoying) instead of 5 random plots packed into one movie. I didn't feel any emotional catharsis in the movie because everything was zipping along and this move felt satirical and irony-poisoned despite the emphasis on this Superman being kinder and more emotive than the other ones. Direction-wise it left much to be desired too and the fish-eye/wide-lens angles felt super cheap, I don't know why they kept doing it in even non-flight/action scenes. I'm actually looking more forward to Supergirl because her drunken shtick sounds fun for a female-lead superhero movie and would be more fresh than take #1038839 of Batman, Superman, Spiderman, etc.

>>149440257
>Again people in my theatre were laughing so I thought it was meant to be funny. "My bad"
I wouldn't apologize, but I have been bewildered by audiences laughing at literally nothing in films

>>149440300
Well i encourage you to look at all five of those scenes. He does cry a lot more than you think it's honestly nauseating. The only one that I'm iffy about is the scene following the message. I can't remember if he tears up right there or if he just pouts a little before flying to the fortress and crying for Robot Four.

>>149439764
>good score
Yeah. i liked it when I first heard it in a movie made 45 years ago.

I don't feel the need to give a point-by-point defense of the movie. It was great. If you dislike it then I question your taste.

>>149440426
Mike Francesa hated it and that was all I needed to know it was good.
>I've been watching Superman my whole life I've never seen a dog
No shit you casual boomer fuck lmao

>>149440413
NTA but Last Son is a nice song and I like the updated theme. The weird electronic music when he fought Ultraman was cool. Reminded me of the Neversoft Spider-Man game since it wasn't just Hollywood orchestral stuff.

>>149440426
Imagine defending just an okay movie like this. It's just a popcorn flick superhero movie, those are never going to be so good that "anyone who dislikes them has bad taste".

>>149439488
I think it was an important scene, because remember this is the new start of their shared universe. You HAVE to establish in this movie that Superman doesn't feel compelled to involve himself in every matter all the time, not if other heroes are on it and they have things well in hand.

For every DC movie that comes after this? This specific scene is their front-loaded answer as to why that movie WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN without Superman dropping in and stealing the spotlight. He doesn't have to do everything himself. Other heroes are allowed to have stories not staring Superman.

Fucking bizarre and a breath of fresh air. Like a Wes Anderson movie but by a guy who likes tits instead of a movie for theater kids

Everyone in this movie was so fucking idiotic. First you have Superman not using his x-ray or super hearing to see Lex was up to no good
Then you have Daily Planet not wondering where the Hammer went off to. They just let him beat up Superman and fuck off back to Russia or wherever and he never comes back and no one questions it.
Then Lex is there just letting Tessmacher record all his shenanigans and cuck him with Superman's Pal
Then the city of Metropolis just believes with no evidence that a tape made by Lex Luthor and unnamed translators with a language nobody spoke (not even the intergalatic space cop) was evidence that Superman is evil. At least for ten minutes before they just... forget?
Like someone said Lex's girlfriends just kept disappearing and nobody investigated it.
By the way a monster just... appears in the middle of the city. TWICE and no one investigated. I guess this world is the same as EVA's.
The city/planet was almost sucked in a black whole and a war was breaking out in the middle east but the biggest news that day was Lex Luthor was selling weapons to the "bad guys". Why are they bad? Because they were taking over a country who didn't have any firearms. Ooh here's a great idea! Lets have one of the Justice League kill the leader of another country! Da da da-daaa! The day is saved!
Aside from being a shit Superman this movie was just shit. So when I see all these plot wholes I just don't understand if I'M in the wrong or if there really is a plot to make this movie look better than it is.

>>149440426
You shouldn't have to defend this movie. I long since realized that if a movie I think is good can't speak for itself then it isn't my job to justify why its good. That said, this movie is bad.
>>149440499
I mean if Mr Mxyzptlk coming into the city isn't a job for Superman I don't know what is.

>>149440539
I misspelled the word "hole" twice and I'm calling myself out.

>>149440128
Nah I'll see it again. Maybe my opinion might change. Or maybe I'll have more shit to complain about.

>>149440539
You just have to turn some of your brain off to enjoy this film. Some people will unironically claim this as a pro and word it like
>only cynical nerds will bother pointing out this and that nitpick
>it's okay to just enjoy things without hyperanalyzing them
because they like that it's a spectacle over substance movie that doesn't take itself that seriously.

>>149439300 (OP)
>the whole thing felt more like a parody of everything I like about him. I was sat in the theatre and felt like I was being mocked.

I think Gunn was sincere. If you look at his movie history or his general sense of humor, this (Superman) is just out of his depth. But he tried. He tried to dig up all the sincerity and wholesomeness he could muster.

I didn't hate it but I didn't love it. As I've said before I think it was good enough to make me not dread the thought of a sequel...until I heard the sequel will be some worlds finest bullshit.

Comic films are far from masterpieces but you niggas just do not pay attention or have terrible memories. Takes me back to /co/'s esteemed days of 2008 when every thread was about the plot holes of Iron Man and TDK

>>149440649
The absolute nerve. I really don't want to make this a Snyderman vs Gunnman debate but at least those movies spent time questioning and following up on those questions. Even when the action started I didn't feel like I had to turn my brain off. But its okay with this movie because... what? Its brighter? Its got more cgi? The absolute nerve of anyone bringing up Snyder's movies to prop up this absolute shite is astounding.

>>149439300 (OP)
why does a movie have to live up to your expectations? what do those expectations have to do with the work itself?

I liked it. It was fun

>>149440675
>he tried to dig up all the sincerty and wholesomeness he could muster
By being the seventh person to rely on the Donnor movies to evoke some emotion. Take out those movies from the equation and its as someone said: This is the Batman and Robin of Superman movies.

>>149439300 (OP)
>I was sat in the theatre and felt like I was being mocked.
I have never felt any other way after watching a James Gunn movie.

>>149440715
I can't find it but the meme comic of the kid going to see a movie based on Blue only for the entire thing to be Red is the feeling I get.

Maybe my standards are too high. That diesn't mean you can shit something out and go "well you were never gonna like it anyway".

>>149440716
I'm glad. What did you like about it?

>>149440739
>This is the Batman and Robin of Superman movies.
Christ that's harsh, I get what you mean but for the love of God anon some things once said just can't be taken back.

>>149440539
>Mister Terrific goes to the island of misfit girlfriends
>not one guard shoots his plane down
>begins easily assualting everyone on the island
>not just the guards but the nerdy scientists too
>most of them probably were just there to maintain the portal
>not even evil
>never find out what happens to them
>assume they were swallowed up in the black hole after Holt beat the hell out of them all.
My FFFFFFFFFFFFFUARKING HERO

>>149439300 (OP)
Weird, because the only places I see people outright shitting on it are dens of Snyder-obsessed dipshits, and everyone I know that reads and loves Superman thought it was good. Not Earth's highest art, but good and fundamentally understanding Superman in a way that we haven't seen on film since the 70s.

>>149440842
>fundamentally understands Superman
>Superman sips tea while the Justice Gang fight a monster
>Jor-El and Lara are evil now
>Superman can't handle himself in an interview with Lois
>His cousin calls him a bitch and is a drunken slag
No the fuck he doesn't fundementally understand Superman. Nigga, please

>>149439361
>Somebody compared Superman Legacy to Batman and Robin
You've never seen B&R, zoomer. And nobody calls it Superman Legacy.

>Gunn's Scooby Doo
Gunn didn't direct Scooby Doo.

>superman saves a squirrel and tried desperately to save a monster (ok he didn't try very hard he just whined that he could have saved it in a zoo)
>later on he just kills Bizzaro and guess what? Its immediately followed up with a gag!
Broooooo this movie SUCKED. AHAHAHH what the HELL is going on?!

>>149439300 (OP)
>Most people who I see praise this movie seem to not be interested in comic books
most people do not care about the comics.
superman is a cartoon/movie character. comic superman is niche, you may as well see him as non-canon

>>149440904
Not only have I seen and own Batman and Robin but I was one of the few defending it for being a good adaptation of the Adam West show.
>Gunn didn't direct Scooby Doo
I'm so mad that you typed this that I want to punch someone. I mever claimed he did. He wrote the fucking screenplay ergo it is Gunn's Scooby Doo

>>149440917
Ultraman was not just kicking his ass, he was stopping Superman from saving the city (and possibly the world) from an ongoing disaster. After a certain point, Superman has to take Ultraman out of the fight no matter what because continuing to fight him means letting more innocent people die.
Mercy does not mean stupidity.

>>149440904
I'll give you this. I thought it was called Superman Legacy as that's how it was reffered to for the last 3 years. But sneaky Jimmy changed it to just Superman and I forgot.

>>149440974
Tell that to Zod's snapped neck.

>>149439300 (OP)
It's the best we could hope for as a Superman movie for general audiences in 2025. He's caring and kind, and hopefully that image of him will be sustained now. I just wish he wasn't a naive jackass who has the emotional depth of a teenage boy.

As far as adaptations go, the DCAU is still the gold standard for me. A nice synthesis of Post-Crisis/Byrne, Silver Age, Bronze Age, and Golden Age/Fleischer.

>>149440994
The best Superman we could hope for general audiences was made 1978 and has never been beat.

>>149440034
>I hated the sheer amount of joking in this movie.
>i went into this comic book hero movie not expecting jokes, now i'm upset

>>149441028
More like
>i wanted an action movie and got a comedy and now I'm upset

>>149440944
>I was one of the few defending it for being a good adaptation of the Adam West show.

Jesus Christ, how old are you, bro? Defending B&R like it's 60's Batman? You must be the king of losers.

>>149440994
> I just wish he wasn't a naive jackass who has the emotional depth of a teenage boy.

It was occasionally overdone, but I think the goal of it was to make this superman feel less... sterile. A big complaint of previous superman movies was that Superman was too cold and inhuman. Focusing too much on being an 'ideal' that there is nothing left to relate to.

Gunn Superman is a guy. He grew up in Kansas and moved to the city. He has a good heart and genuinely wants to help people, even if that means he doesn't look before he leaps because he reacts to save people without bothering to think about consequences of doing so. For all his power, he's still just a guy and people are not perfect. He gets frustrated. He isn't a 500IQ supergenius with a solution to every problem. He makes mistakes or bad decisions because nobody, not even Superman, can do the Exact Right Thing 100% of the time in all situations.

>>149441026
I like the first Donner movie too, but that series was mid at best by the end. That film was a firework, a bright light that left a memorable impression. The DCAU from STAS to JLU was more like a warm, comfy self sustaining campfire. Not reaching the same heights, but also not the same lows.

If anything the Donner movie was the precursor to something like The Dark Knight, because it tries to have the world outside of the colorful heroes and villains be as mundane and "realistic" as possible. The one thing this new one has over it is a setting that feels comic-booky, where crazy sci fi things just happen and no one bats an eye. But animation is just flat out superior compared to live action for adapting capeshit. Like David Mazzuchelli said in that afterword to Batman Year One, superheroes are real when they're in ink.

>>149441028
Superman is lying on the ground. Beat up. Can barely move. Needs immediate help and so he calls his friend Krypto. And its like aw man. My favorite superhero is down for the count I sure hope Krypto can
>BOOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
Gunns goofy jack russel starts pouncing on Superman and kicking his limp body around. The audience is howling in laughter. I'm howling in pain. And funnily enough so is Superman but its okay because its a fucking joke.

>>149441083
Assuming this is the same anon. Apparently you think I'm a zoomer but now I'm too old. Could also be I'm in my twenties and have loved capeshit my whole life. If I'm a loser for that I'm in the right place for it.
>>149441087
Except this movie frames every stupid thing Superman does as being the right thing all the time.

>>149440714
>The absolute nerve of anyone bringing up Snyder's movies to prop up this absolute shite is astounding
Neither of the posts in that chain mentioned Snyder at all, what are you on? You can't be boogeymanning Snyder so hard that you're hallucinating mentions of him in any critique of the movie.

>>149441121
You didn't watch the whole movie, obviously. Stop basing your perception of the movie off an old trailer, faker.

>>149440163
They were definitely responding to the Kent line. Metamorpho was forced to be complicit in the death of an innocent man, how stoic would YOU be in that situation?

>>149440786
Liked how earnest it felt. Like it wasn't ashamed to be a comic book adaption.
Didn't like Lex killing the food guy, felt unnecessary to the overall story especially since Superman doesn't mention it after that. Could've had another way of convincing Metamorpho to help
Final 20 minutes felt disjointed too. But other then that, thought it was neat.

>>149441121
Superman is treated like such a bitch in this movie. Krypto doesn't respect him. Neither does Lois. Nor does anyone in the Justice Gang. Nor do do his robots. Not even Supergirl. Even Jimmy fucks him off in the beginning.
He gets beat up and bitch smacked so often that its strange the movie starts of calling him THE most powerful being in the world. He almost lost that fight with the giant dinosuar before the Justice Gang step in. Getting fucked up by Hammer was ridiculous even if it is Ultraman in disguise. And whats funny is Hammer-Man goes for Superman's balls twice. Just destroys his testicles. Like, Gunn absolutely does not come off like he respects this character. Even if you wanted this to be a comedy he's Superman. Save that energy for Clark Kent

>>149441217
>felt unnecessary to the overall story especially since Superman doesn't mention it after that
Malik was at least cited as a Hero of Metropolis in the Daily Planet's front page headline at the end of the movie. I can only assume that Clark wrote that one himself.

>>149441192
The scene where Krypto pounces on Superman as he struggles to get the dog to help isn't in the trailer. So why don't you shut the fuck up?
>>149441217
To be fair his picture is in the paper and I think Clark wrote it up. Which actually is a Superman thing to do.
>>149441211
Again, my over all point is that they didn't allow the scene to breathe before following it up with the "I'll go after Clark Kent" joke. And if Rex is so fucked up by it maybe the problem is his acting because I couldn't tell if it was serious.

>>149441183
Thats what the discourse devolves to every time. Its why I explicitly said I DON'T want this to become a competition between the two directors.

>>149441121
>The audience is howling in laughter. I'm howling in pain.
You're old, bro. Nobody writes like this unless they're lifting lines from old Roger Ebert reviews.

>>149441253
It was most certainly a trailer.

>So why don't you shut the fuck up?
Arright, fuck you too, grandad.

>>149439300 (OP)
Gunn with a leash on and stopped from doing the ADHD key jangling shit in this Superman could've made a billion dollar movie. This Superman feels like the Taika Watiti decline from Ragnarok to Love and Thunder after Waititi wasn't being tard-wrangled anymore but the problem is we never got our Ragnarok in the first place.

>>149441270
Obviously I did watch it if I can reference a scene that the other anon didn't catch. Kill yourself or stop being wrong.

>>149441264
There are literally more anons who cried Snyderfag than actual Snyderfags in the thread

>>149439300 (OP)
>the whole thing felt more like a parody of everything I like about him. I was sat in the theatre and felt like I was being mocked.
The lengths OP the fag will go to lie and make shit threads

I'm going to bed. Don't expect the thread to survive. But my parting shot is the suit looks so fucking baggy and gay on the actor. i don't care if you bought back the red trunks he could've at least fit the suit.

>>149440539
>Hammer
If Superman couldn't beat him, what's anyone else gonna do? He probably flew off at Super-speed faster than the military could track him.

>Lex is there just letting Tessmacher record all his shenanigans and cuck him with Superman's Pal
He just wrote her off as an idiot and didn't consider that she was spying on him. Lex has a monstrous ego after all. He did find her out eventually.

>Then the city of Metropolis just believes with no evidence that a tape made by Lex Luthor and unnamed translators with a language nobody spoke (not even the intergalatic space cop) was evidence that Superman is evil. At least for ten minutes before they just... forget?
They have all the TV experts/linguists confirming that the tape is legit. A bit goofy but it's a comicbook movie.

>Like someone said Lex's girlfriends just kept disappearing and nobody investigated it.
What would they find? Lex ditched them in a pocket dimension and he was probably careful not to incriminate himself. He's an evil genius.

>By the way a monster just... appears in the middle of the city. TWICE
It's a campy comicbook movie. Superhero shenanigans are commonplace here.

>The city/planet was almost sucked in a black whole and a war was breaking out in the middle east but the biggest news that day was Lex Luthor was selling weapons to the "bad guys"
They could've been covering the other shit on other channels; it just wasn't relevant to the plot.

>Why are they bad? Because they were taking over a country who didn't have any firearms.
Because they're invading a country that can't defend itself and promising to make the streets run red with the blood of its citizens.

>Ooh here's a great idea! Lets have one of the Justice League kill the leader of another country!
That one I'll give you, but maybe they'll address it in a sequel.

>>149441220
>Superman is treated like such a bitch in this movie.
It's to set up that he's just a guy trying his best, like he says in the finale.

>>149441316
I lied about how I felt? interesting. How do I feel about this godawful movie?

>>149441307
To be fair I've visited several other threads related to this movie and that, indeed, is what tends to happen.

>>149441316
OP reminds me of Patrick Bateman trying to speak with words that aren't his.

>>149441328
Don't forget your Ambien, old man.

>>149441339
>If Superman couldn't beat him, what's anyone else gonna do? He probably flew off at Super-speed faster than the military could track him.
He stood in the sky making a speech before flying to the island with the music blaring.
>Lex has a monstrous ego after all. He did find her out eventually.
Well no. UltraMan used the one power Superman didn't have in this movie and heard her talking to Lex's cuck.
>They have all the TV experts/linguists confirming that the tape is legit. A bit goofy but it's a comicbook movie.
They don't speak Kryptonese and the second half is in English. If Superman and his robots couldn't figure it out in decades how the fuck would a bunch of random linguists? Being a comic book movie doesn't excuse plot holes
>What would they find? Lex ditched them in a pocket dimension and he was probably careful not to incriminate himself. He's an evil genius.
Oh yeah the guy who let his girlfriend just film everything including him break into Superman's house sure was careful. And the reason why people investigate these people going missing is because they all trace back to Luthor.
>It's a campy comicbook movie. Superhero shenanigans are commonplace here.
Sigh.
>They could've been covering the other shit on other channels; it just wasn't relevant to the plot.
Hawkwoman was literally in the process of killing the leader and even then the world was falling in half literally. But whatever.
>Because they're invading a country that can't defend itself and promising to make the streets run red with the blood of its citizens.
How is that America's problem?
>It's to set up that he's just a guy trying his best, like he says in the finale.
By being a push over? This superman has been active for 3 years and he hasn't garnered any respect? He's so flimsy that the citizens are ready to turn on him the second a random video comes out saying Superman said the n-word

>>149441461
>He stood in the sky making a speech before flying to the island with the music blaring.
And then goes through a portal to Lex's evil lair. Who could track him through the portal?

>If Superman and his robots couldn't figure it out in decades how the fuck would a bunch of random linguists?
The robots couldn't repair the message. It wasn't that they couldn't translate it, they didn't have access to the original.

>Oh yeah the guy who let his girlfriend just film everything including him break into Superman's house sure was careful. And the reason why people investigate these people going missing is because they all trace back to Luthor.
People might be suspicious, but they'd have no real proof. Those people weren't found dead or anything, they were stuck in a pocket dimension.

>Sigh.
Oh, come off it. This world already has had Superman, Mr. Terrific, Green Lantern, and all sorts of other superheroes running around. We do see the kaiju being covered by the news, and the "dimensional imp" was just a throwaway joke.

>Hawkwoman was literally in the process of killing the leader and even then the world was falling in half literally. But whatever.
Other news channels might have been talking about it, but it wasn't relevant to the plot to show them talking about it. Lex being outed to the public was.

>How is that America's problem?
I'm not an interventionist, I'm just saying that genocide is a bad thing and that's why the Boravians are portrayed as bad guys.

>He's so flimsy that the citizens are ready to turn on him the second a random video comes out saying Superman said the n-word
Lex has all his cyber-monkeys trolling online to stir people up. It's a commentary on social media outrage.

>>149441539
That last part still makes no sense. Cuz like it's fake social rage.....ppl still wouldn't turn on him. Ppl would probably just laugh at it. Just started to throw shit at him doesn't make sense.

>>149441461
>Sigh.
Why do you need to be a pretentious asshole?

>>149441563
You underestimate the power of social media and the effect on discourse it's been having since it first came up.

>>149441594
>You underestimate the power of social media and the effect on discourse it's been having since it first came up.
Yeah, just look at the Trayvon Martin case. There was literal photo evidence of George Zimmerman having his face pulped and nobody could comprehend the thought that he might've shot Trayvon in self-defense.

>>149441594

The instant reaction makes it seem everyone was one jaywalking incident away from turning on him. ES when the movie opens with them trying to help him.

>>149441594
Why excuse a plot hope with "oh its just a joke"? If thats how you consume movies just stick to silver age 10c comics where silly shit happens just cause.

>>149441693
>Why excuse a plot hope with "oh its just a joke"?
Because if something's being played for laughs, there's not a whole lot of point taking it too seriously. It's like seeing the goofy comedic scenes in Peter Parker's high school in the first Raimi Spider-Man and wondering how nobody figured out he's Spider-Man after he beat up Flash Thompson with sudden super-strength. The scene isn't taking itself too seriously, so going "WHAT!? WHY ISN'T ANYONE INVESTIGATING THIS?!" just makes you look like an angry autist.

>>149441693
Why nitpick a small detail that will never have a real answer unless it comes from a X grilling session with James Gunn or WB getting its shit together and dumping a hardcover lore book in ten years?

>>149440842
>good and fundamentally understanding Superman
Is this bait?

It's a james gunn movie not a superman movie. Every one behaves like a emotional man child. Juvenile humor and basically no plot. Cameos from his friends and family and music from bands he listens to on youtube. He is not a serious person. Surprised his wife isnt in this.

>>149439337
They did not like this movie. I dont think anyone did.

>>149439432
>hampered by the fact that he's playing a clueless loser and not actually Kal-El
Yeah hes basically playing the main character from slither which ofcourse was played by Nathan Fillion
.

>>149441183
Snyder films were dog shit. You must be the kind of retard that enjoyed Bayformers.

>>149439518
I loved that Superman was the heroes hero, but not due to his power but because he'd try and save everyone. He would go throw great length to save a single life, even dogs and squirrels. He inspired the other heroes like Green Lantern and Hawkgirl into being better heroes.

>>149441539
If Superman goes to a heavily guarded area with a bunch of scientists guarding a portal to a pocket dimension I think he could come to the conclusion on where the Hammer disappeared to. Abd if the Hammer isn't making appearences in (I honestly forgwt the name of the evil country) it should be obvious that he People might be suspicious, but they'd have no real proof. Those people weren't found dead or anything, they were stuck in a pocket dimension wasn't an ally of them.
>People might be suspicious, but they'd have no real proof. Those people weren't found dead or anything, they were stuck in a pocket dimension.
They literally had loved ones outside waiting for them when the returned and if you saw numerous cages in that place I think it's ridiculous to claim people would be a "little" suspicious that everyone who bad mouths Luthor disappeared.
>Oh, come off it. This world already has had Superman, Mr. Terrific, Green Lantern, and all sorts of other superheroes running around. We do see the kaiju being covered by the news, and the "dimensional imp" was just a throwaway joke.
I won't come off it. This is what I mean. This felt like a parody. People just eat this slop up and it's all excusable because its a joke? So if there are no stakes why should i care?
>Other news channels might have been talking about it, but it wasn't relevant to the plot to show them talking about it. Lex being outed to the public was.
...right. The world splits in half but oh nooo the CEO is profiting off war. For FUCK sake.
>I'm not an interventionist, I'm just saying that genocide is a bad thing and that's why the Boravians are portrayed as bad guys.
Then I guess that makes it okay for Green Lantern to walk in a slaughter their soldiers to rock music.

>>149442906
If the Snyder movies were dogshit that means this movie is worse than that.

>>149439300 (OP)
>I was sat in the theatre and felt like I was being mocked.
Tell it to your therapist, weird faggot.

It saved comic book movies

>>149439300 (OP)
>Most people who I see praise this movie seem to not be interested in comic books.
Isn't that good? Means that people who don't read Superman or were poisoned by the Snyder/Bendis/Taylor era of Edgyman will get to enjoy a Superman who is ACTUALLY A HERO.
>They take it for what it is
A kind, humane alien who tries his best to make this world a lil bit better, and who isnn't afraid to realize he can fuck up on the stuff he does, but still he keeps trying because he knows that if he gives up, everyone's life gets shittier? So like, an actual person?
>and as someone who actually likes Superman the whole thing felt more like a parody of everything I like about him. I was sat in the theatre and felt like I was being mocked.
No, anon, you are NOT someone who likes Superman, you are someone who thinks Superman has to be an infallible god, someone who can't do no wrong or even doubt himself, when all of his best material is exactly stuff where his human side actually shines, where he actually shows why he's the symbol of HOPE in the DC Universe.
And also, the fact you feel mocked by a movie sure shows more the way you feel insecure about your hobby. Maybe you should have actual friends and not anons on the internet to have fun with when talking about your interests? Just a suggestion.

>>149442463
>They did not like this movie
do they like anything ever? i largely avoided their content because i got an impression that they never do. i guess it'd make sense for their specialty to be just complaining about movies all the time.

>Jor-El is an evil supremacist.
>Gunn is comic accurate.
Gunnjeets need a new cope.

>>149439300 (OP)
>Most people who I see praise this movie seem to not be interested in comic books.
Because these movies are not aimed at people who are interested in comic books, never have been, never will be.

>>149444140
Just like Pa Kent being against the idea of Clark using his powers, Batman caring way too much about Ma Kent's name being Martha, or Batman being older than Superman in action, or Lex Luthor just barely knowing Superman and being already his bitter enemy, or him using the body of Zod to make Doomsday, or the fact that somehow Luthor creates Doomsday.

And the list can go on.
Zack Snyder made even more mistakes adapting Superman's mythos than Gunn has done in one movie (which might be actually retconned in a sequel, unlike what was done in the Snyderverse).

>>149444260
>muh snyder
didn't your mom ever teach you two wrongs don't make a right

>>149444280
You literally decided to post a reaction image with Herny Cavill trying to pose menacingly for a JL poster, and if you actually cared about trying to prove a point, you'd realize that NO FUCKING COMIC BOOK MOVIE goes to truly do the same shit as a comic, there's always something different.
But of course, because now Gunn has the spotlight for doing Superman, he is now unforgivable for making Jor El be (possibly) not as good as he was in the classic comics, right?

>>149444345
Reread the OP, this is a thread about how the people who call Gunns joint comic accurate don't read the comics.
Also Snyder didn't write MoS or BvS

>>149444435
But he directed both. If he wanted to, he could have requested to change the script of the movie to make sure Superman and Batman and everyone could be directed in a better way.
But he didn't.

>>149439300 (OP)
>LET BROWN PPL SHIT IN YOUR YARD
>IT'S SO PUNK ROCK

>>149441645
>cop says don't engage
>he doesn't listen
>this totally justifies killing a black teenager

>>149444696
>Your yard
>Implying I have a yard

>>149440034
> He also has a private island that plays this loud music and leads to a portal where he keeps his ex girlfriends and Mr. Terrific easily finds it but Superman doesn't.
Mr. Terrific found it because he drugged Superman who recently went through the portal. Superman didn’t have a lead to follow.
> Lex breaks into the fortress of solitude and everyone just accepts that he decoded the Kryptonian message including the 33 year old who'd been listening to it for decades.
Lex is smarter than Superman. The nanobots are his design
> Instead of laughing him out the room or arresting him they just put him in charge.
The U.S. didn’t have a place to keep him. Lex had the only known source of kryptonite
> They're midwestern not Southern. Don't know what that was about.
They’re based on Richard Christy’s parents. Christy is from Kansas
> Also Jimmy Olsen cucking Lex Luthor should never be a sentence outside of Tumblr fan art and yet here in this movie it becomes a reality.
Jimmy is much more of a ladies’s man than Luthor. Luthor loses because he’s abusive, petty, and manipulative, and it comes back to bite him.
>>149440163
The Clark Kent thing wasn’t a joke. It’s a case of dramatic irony. A joke has a set up and punchline, Lex’s line is amusing because the audience knows something the character doesn’t.

>>149440199
> It's humorous but the line isn't delivered like one
This reminds me that time i watched Endgame when it released. A lot of people laughed when Thanos snapped his fingers and nothing happened since he didn’t have the infinity stones. It wasn’t meant to be a joke but people took it that way for some weird reason. I honestly think is a consequence of marvel constantly bombarding the audience with jokes to the point they can take things seriously when needed to.

>>149444015
I'm talking about it to my online friendson /co/

>>149444790
>they can take things seriously.
FUCK. I meant to say “they can’t”.

>>149439300 (OP)
Superman is a throwback to when Americans had integrity and morals, of course none of them want to see any of that now

>>149444345
>You literally decided to post a reaction image with Herny Cavil
nta anon retard, just fucking tired of you retards running to but muh snyder muh jeets as some retarded deflection/cope when confronted about how shit your movie is

>>149444260
Ignoring how wrong this all is, Zack Snyder had far less deviations than this piece of shit did.

>>149444759
>it wasn't a joke it was amusing
Motherfucker...

>I may be woke propaganda but at least I have quips

>>149439300 (OP)
>felt more like a parody of everything I like
>felt like I was being mocked.
Congratulations, you have media literacy.

Apathetic cunts complaining: The thread.

>>149444862
Why is clark kent dressed like that?

>>149444881
This is the funniest post I have read today, I hope to god you're being honest.

>>149444857
Hehehe. Not all things that are amusing are jokes. And not all jokes are amusing

>>149439300 (OP)
Dude you’re being a faggot. Supes is my favorite, I read and spent thousands on his comics and what not and he thought this was fun. It’s not made entirely for the comic reader Supes fan it also has to cater to the normie gen public and I thought it was fun for what it was and a decent depiction of Clark.

Only thing I hated was the supergirl scene, not because they made her some party ditzy blonde it just felt like such a uselesss stupid scene

Bump

>>149439300 (OP)
you are a sad strange little man. You have my pity

So it's just Dan Slott ass clownery?
got it.

>>149440801
I wouldn't say its the Batman and Robin Superman movies. I would say its the LEGO Batman of Superman movies. And if you thought that movie was too silly and not muh batman then you won't like this one.

>>149439300 (OP)
>>149444068
I’ve seen people asking for reading lists after seeing the movie.

>>149445785
Normies aren't people.

>>149439300 (OP)
I love going into these threads and seeing nits being picked by people who unironically think the STOP MY INVINCIBLE SON or MARTHA scenes are high art

it suffers heavily from a bad script

>>149445815
Those are memes.
If you don't like "You think you can threaten my Mother!" you have no soul. It's simple facts.

>>149445815
I can't defend the stop my invincible son scene i think it was done poorly. And I stopped defending Martha because people just refuse to get it. At least those scenes are memorable. What do we have with Superman Legacy?
PEEPUL WERE GOING TO DIE! he said calmly? Thanks for watching my dog, bitch?

>>149445785
The girl I’m dating wants to read Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow after we saw this movie. I’ve never read it but I also plan on reading it soon. I warned her Tom King was hit or miss but it seems fairly well received. She’s reading New Frontier now.
I made her a list of Superman and Batman comics to jump into as well. I plan on sending it to her later. Feel free to r8 or add on for a complete newbie.

>>149445996
People seem to resonate with the “kindness is the new punk rock”
> inb4 das cwinge waah

>>149439300 (OP)
I kind of wished the twist about his parents being evil was a trick done by Luther, I don’t like how convenient it is for Lex. Plus the public turning against SM happened too fast, but other than that I really enjoyed it

>>149439764
> but every time he reappeared i rolled my eyes a little harder and him going sicko mode on lex was fucking stupid
Naw that scene was based and I enjoyed how much Krypto fought

lmao you are shitting yourself with anger

>>149439300 (OP)
Fuck off.
Just fuck off.

>>149446048
Forced meme just like the Gunnkey meme and the Snyderjeet one.

God I'm tired of /tv/ slop threads...

>>149446057
> Plus the public turning against SM happened too fast
I think it was fine since he literally stopped a war started by a U.S. ally, so his public reputation already wasn’t perfect

>>149445996
>At least those scenes are memorable.
They're memorable because they're terrible and people laugh at them. And people understand MARTHA. It was just stupid.

>>149439337
That...is what Superman is???

>>149446080
>>149439393
>>149439994
>>149440018
>>149440325
>>149440426
>>149440702
>>149444015
>>149444227
>>149444696
I don't understand why some of you are getting upset. I didn't like what I'd seen in the trailer and I'm willing to admit some bias against Gunn but I swear that I went into this movie trying to guve it a fair shake. It just didn't end up being good to me and I want to understand why I'm seeing all the nonsense and everyone else is calling it movie of the decade

>>149440499
Also it's worth noting that most of the time Mxyzptlk is harmless and undoes everything when he's beaten anyways. Outside of very specific subversions of him, he's simply not a threat that needs to be taken seriously if he's being actively dealt with.

>>149446222
Perhaps if you take it at face value. Perhaps you can be fooled into thinking thats ALL he is. I find it lazy.

>>149439300 (OP)
>>149439361
It does sort of feel like a collegehumor or internet parody video at times. Superman crying about the supershit hashtag in particular felt like a skit from the 2000's about an interview with Superman or something like that.

>>149444884
Don't say that about OP. He thinks he's a Kryptonian and that watching Superman on the big screen was like an African American going to a blackface minstrel show. Can't you understand his pain??

>>149446279
Shut up, Synder cuck. Make your bait less obvious in the future with what you're clearly fishing for.

>>149445996
Ultimate Cut changed MARTHAAAAA to "They're going to kill Martha!" But of course, being the geniuses that they are, Batman still does his "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME???" bit so it still comes off as hamfisted and corny.

>>149441217
>Liked how earnest it felt. Like it wasn't ashamed to be a comic book adaption.
This is what I liked about it too. Next week we're getting a Fantastic Four movie that''s going to make multiple jokes about how lame "It's Clobberin Time" is and how Ben is embarrassed by the phrase. How is that fun? Why do I want to watch my favorite Marvel character get bullied for his iconic catchphrase? Meanwhile Gunn's Superman never feels ashamed of its comic book elements. Even with a few mocking jokes from Lois, the characters themselves brush her comments off and embrace themselves and their choices. They push her into the wrong from questioning those elements. There's no sense of shame or irony from it despite the fact that Gunn is absolute the type that would, he choses to embrace the absurd for his DCU. Almost like he knows it hurts many fans perception of the final product.

Superman's dog was in the movie and there's no shame in the concept of a super powered dog in a cape helping Superman out. All of Guy's constructs were wonderful. Superman has his trunks on the outside and that's okay because its okay because the character can just embrace it.

>>149446312
I'm fishing? I want a good Superman movie and I didn't think this was it. What am I fishing fot other than feeling the pulse

>>149446022
Add Batman Ego and Other Tails. Its a small collection featuring Cooke's work on Batman. Batgirl Year One is great, and Robin Year One is alright but I think they come packaged together if she's buying trades so you kind of have to do both.

>>149442463
They didn't love it, but they did like it. They also changed their views from previous reviews and said that Superman as a character is so old you can do anything with him and it'd be a valid take on the character. They just said Snyder did a poor job with a more grim and serious Superman. They also liked Mr. Terrific and Guy and think Gunn should just make a movie featuring the Justice Gang.

How does this movie filter so many people?

>>149446528
It doesn't. You're seeing the weird retards on /co/ make threads like this. Outside of these threads the movie is widely liked.

>>149446384
Kill yourself Snyderfag

>>149446553
Literally no one cares about it outside of /co/.

>>149445996
>what do we have with Superman Legacy?
1A! 1A! 1A! 1A! 1A! 1A! 1A! 1A!

>>149446485
I’d rather see the Terrifics, but that’s my Plaslust talking

>>149446384
You're painfully transparent. You want Superman to be this shitty Jesus figure he was in the Synder movies

>>149446573
Just because you don't personally like a popular thing doesn't mean it's not popular. You can have your own opinion but not your own reality.

>>149446430
Thanks anon, I added your suggestions

>>149446553
It has an extremely strong hold at the box office. It made over 11 million on a Thursday after already having a strong Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. Plus it picked up 140 more theaters for this weekend so that's likely going to give it a decent boost into the weekend.

>>149445996
>PEEPUL WERE GOING TO DIE! he said calmly?

No, he said that angrily, which was great. It gets across that Superman doesn't really have some complex philosophy, and doesn't really have answers to Lois's valid criticisms, but he knows he needs to help people in danger.

>>149446600
>Just because you don't personally like a popular thing doesn't mean it's not popular.
Okay, but that's besides the point when we're not talking about something popular.
The movie is not popular, and it's not hated.
No one gives a fuck one way or another. This is just /co/tards shitposting one way another, while the rest of the world couldn't care less.

>>149446619
According to >>149446573 that's all just /co/, I guess the 12 or so people who post here are buying thousands of tickets each.

>>149446595
>>149446569

Damn. I really am trying to understand but I guess I expected more. No one can properly say why they liked this shit without bringing up Snyder and vice versa.

>>149446341
>Next week we're getting a Fantastic Four movie that''s going to make multiple jokes about how lame "It's Clobberin Time" is and how Ben is embarrassed by the phrase. How is that fun? Why do I want to watch my favorite Marvel character get bullied for his iconic catchphrase?
Meanwhile I'm just glad we're getting Galactus, 18 years after some people insisted the idea was too silly to be done.

>>149446639
>Okay, but that's besides the point when we're not talking about something popular.

But we are, see >>149446619

Again, you don't get your own reality. I don't know what your beef is with this movie, but your personal dislike does not change that this is a widely popular movie. Sorry if that makes you mad.

>>149446653
Because you're two faced as shit and it's obvious.

>>149446595
I want there to be more to Superman than beating up monsters and being le nice guy.

And FYI my favorite adaptation is the CW show with cross-eyed Lois Lane. You keep bring up the Snoyderman movies for no reason.

>>149446646
>>149446663
People buying tickets doesn't mean anyone actually cares.
You think anyone gave a fuck about Thunderbolts?
Go to ANY place that isn't already focused on comics, and not a single soul has anything to say about it, and that's if they even know it exists.

>>149446653
Welcome to reality fucker, truth is Snydershit DOES exist and it's the only alternative.

>>149446701
Okay. I'll stop being two-faced. now tell me why this movie was good and do try not to bring up other Superman movies. I promise I will do the same. Deal?

>>149446723
>People buying tickets doesn't mean anyone actually cares.

The kind of brilliant analysis one can only find on /co/.

>>149446731
No, just admit to being a Snyderfaggot then livestream your suicide.

>>149446746
Shit I guess slop like the Snyderverse must be exponentially more loved then, if you think that actually means people care.

>>149446729
>its the only alternative
It is not and you should be ashamed for thinking that.

>>149446760
Ok but that won't make the Gunn movie any less shit sadly.

>>149446731
People have multiple times, you're just ignoring it because you're a faggot.

>>149446787
Oh, I don't care about the movie one way or the other. I just want to see the last remnants of Snyder exterminated.

Are you all seeing the mental illness at play here? The average Gunnkey argument:
>Superdog is in it so its accurate!
>Well just because you didn't like it it's just you!
>You just didn't see it!
>SNYDER SNYDER REEEE REEE

This movie sucks and anyone praising it is a paid shill. Keep in mind, Gunn posts on /tv/ and the government pays people to misinform posters so its not as insane as you think.

>>149446842
Did the transceivers the CIA implanted in your teeth tell you to write this?

>>149446827
Okay do it again please. I'm a latecomer and I need something more to go on. >>149446828
Oh I see. But I'M the dishonest two-faced one. Cool cool. Kys

>>149446870
Yes. They also told me your mother likes it in the rear.

>>149443798
>If Superman goes to a heavily guarded area with a bunch of scientists guarding a portal to a pocket dimension I think he could come to the conclusion on where the Hammer disappeared to.
>They literally had loved ones outside waiting for them when the returned and if you saw numerous cages in that place I think it's ridiculous to claim people would be a "little" suspicious that everyone who bad mouths Luthor disappeared.
Well sure they'd know once they found the pocket dimension, but before that they wouldn't.

>This felt like a parody. People just eat this slop up and it's all excusable because its a joke?
Plenty of action movies have had comedic scenes, like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade having Indy cause loud crashes whenever a librarian stamps something, or when

>...right. The world splits in half but oh nooo the CEO is profiting off war. For FUCK sake.
I said, other news channels were probably covering the Metropolis disaster and the invasion, it just wasn't relevant to the plot to show those channels doing it. It's not that nobody noticed the disasters, it's just that we the audience are not shown news reports about them because it was superfluous to the plot. We the audience already knew about the disasters so we didn't need to see news reports on them, but when Luthor was being outed as evil, we the audience needed to see the news spread to establish that.

>Then I guess that makes it okay for Green Lantern to walk in a slaughter their soldiers to rock music.
I mean, if they're planning to genocide civilians, I wouldn't be shedding too many great salty tears about them getting rekt by Green Lantern.

>After a week, there's not a single meme based on anything from the movie circulating the wider internet, and there's barely any circulating in the comics related parts
Has any of you guys spotted anything in the wild?
Only things I've seen has been monkey posts, and I guess Punk Rock shit posting, but the latter died pretty fast, and both I've only seen here.

>>149439300 (OP)
some of the worst cgi I have ever seen in a high budget film

>>149446258
I wouldn't say it's "movie of the decade," but as a lighthearted superhero movie I think it works pretty well.
>Hoult's Luthor is a good villain, and a different take on the character from Gene Hackman while still being very true to the Luthor character
>Corenswet's Superman seems like a guy trying to do right (as the plot intended), is a likeable character
>good combo of comicbook campiness and real-world issues
>good visuals like the pocket dimension or the various monsters
>plot holds together decently well, even though there are some iffy scenes like the public instantly turning on Superman after they see the full Jor-El message
>Jimmy, Lois, the Justice Gang, and the rest of the side-characters are memorable
Admittedly, I went into it with family and we grabbed popcorn, pizza, soda, and M&Ms, so I was already in a pretty lighthearted mood, but I think that Gunn's Superman is a solid watch. It has a lot of Gunn's usual humor and self-parody, but I went in expecting that.

>>149446908
>Well sure they'd know once they found the pocket dimension, but before that they wouldn't.
Interregating one of the many guards or scientists about what the Portal has.
> of action movies have had comedic scenes, like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade having Indy cause loud crashes whenever a librarian stamps something, or when
you are being obtuse. There's a difference between levity and not taking any situation seriously
> It's not that nobody noticed the disasters, it's just that we the audience are not shown news reports about them because it was superfluous to the plot.
Maybe we should have instead of being subjected to a bunch of shit jokes
>I mean, if they're planning to genocide civilians, I wouldn't be shedding too many great salty tears about them getting rekt by Green Lantern.
Oh fuck me. This coming from the movie preaching about people dying. They turn the Justice League into a hitsquad

>>149446628
>angrily

He was frustrated, and the whole interview basically devolved into a lover's spat. Point still holds, though.

>>149446723
>Thunderbolts
That was 3 months ago. Of course nobody's talking about now. Why do you think everybody's watching Superman?

>>149447042
>Why do you think everybody's watching Superman?
I don't.

>>149446328
>Ultimate Cut changed MARTHAAAAA to "They're going to kill Martha!"
That's still stupid, why would he say that instead of "they're going to kill my mom"? Who the hell's Martha to Batman? Thank goodness Lois was close to run in and tell Batman that's Superman's mommy's name. It was like Snyder or Terio saw both Superman and Batman's name was Martha, thought they were the first person ever to make that connection, and wanted to show everyone how smart and deep they were by making it a whole thing

>>149446912
I've seen plenty of memes and discussion online. I think you guys are just being retarded and can't accept that you can dislike something other people like. The movie is showing strong retention in theaters, which is proof the film has strong good word of mouth and staying power with the public. It had the strongest weekday performance of 2025. The three or four songs it used have all shot up to the top 10 of various music charts. You don't get those numbers by being forgotten and ignored by people after release. It had a strong opening weekend by 2025 standards and likely would have done better had DC's reception not been in the toilet. Its okay if you don't like the film, but it is far from a failure.

>>149439300 (OP)
>I didn't like popular movie
>I must make a thread on /co/ and ask why others did then argue with them tooth and nail
>no, I can not just go on with my life and accept I have a different opinion from people, those other people are wrong and I must show them the error of their ways

>>149447018
>Interregating one of the many guards or scientists about what the Portal has.
Lex Luthor is shown in high-level government meetings, and Superman had just been pounded into a pulp by Ultraman. None of the good guys has been established as knowing where the portal generator is, let alone that they should investigate it.

>There's a difference between levity and not taking any situation seriously
And Superman has plenty of scenes that it takes seriously, like Superman fighting Ultraman and the Engineer, or Superman's heart-to-heart with Pa Kent, or Luthor ranting angrily about why he hates Superman.

>Maybe we should have instead of being subjected to a bunch of shit jokes
Why? It's pointless to tell the audience shit they already know. We see the Daily Planet staff fleeing Metropolis, we can assume that they and other networks know about it.

>They turn the Justice League into a hitsquad
Superhero movies generally don't play by the "don't kill" rule the way the comics do. Batman straight up kills Joker and several of his henchmen in the old Tim Burton movie.

>>149439300 (OP)
I adored the movie and I own every Superman comic book released from 1986 to 1996. So I don't think that's true, OP.

>>149447107
I never said I disliked the film, I've just genuinely not seen anyone but this place talk about it.
Might be more popular in the states.

If you tell casuals that you don't like how the movie treated Superman's Kryptonian heritage they accuse you of having "headcanon" from reading too many comics and that you're obligated to like whatever Warner Bros does with the character.

It seems to be doing better than Marvel's latest outing in Thunderbolts, but not exactly slam dunk territory. I can see it hit around 500k-ish.
The real trial will be seeing how the Blandtastic 4 is going to do comparatively.

>>149447018
>There's a difference between levity and not taking any situation seriously

This is 4chan. You can inanely madlib any noun or verb like "Whedon" or "quip" or "Reddit" and be performatively angry.

>>149447062
I know you don't, subhuman.

>>149447185
>guy spergs out so hard he never reads post-Crisis Superman because he's just that attached to the "Superman as an immigrant" allegory
>we're supposed to respect his sperging
No.

>>149446583
Kino scene

>>149439300 (OP)
>Most people who I see praise this movie seem to not be interested in comic books
Most people who I see praise this movie consider watching it feel like they just picked a random good issue of Superman at their comic book shop.

>>149447272
Oh yeah btw, looking at the stats, what's up with movies getting a boost on Tuesdays in the states? I get Friday/Saturday, but why Tuesday of all days?

>/co/mblr arguing over which pedophile director made the most profitable manchild movie (they didn't watch)

>>149447272
>The real trial will be seeing how the Blandtastic 4 is going to do comparatively.
The more I see of Fantastic Four the less interested I am.

I just hate this fucking board because of how transparent it is now. Things go left, you go right. Something is red, you say its blue. For fuck sake its self-parody contrarianism at this point. And yes you are exactly like Reddit, simply in the other direction, and you traded votes for Yous

>Absolutely tanking everywhere but domestically
What did they do wrong since they can't grab a diverse audience?
Too white? Too US centric?

>>149447374
There's a reason why /co/ users are called /co/ntrarians.

>>149447400
This mentality isn't exclusive to /co/.

>/co/ntrarians
This isn't a thing, tourist.

>>149447412
>This isn't a thing, tourist.
It is. I bet you've never seen /v/irgins and fa/tg/uys either, you newfag.

>>149447412
>desuarchive search "/co/ntrarian"
>1408 results found
Oh no no no no

>>149447412
>This mentality isn't exclusive to /co/.
/tv/ in particular has to be seen to be believed. The only place I've seen people insist that shit like Die Another Day is underrated genius.

>>149439300 (OP)
You ARE being mocked, as you should be.

>>149439340
Can you blame them? Comics have been shit for decades.

>>149447400
I just miss the old days, you know? I used to appreciate this place for unrestrained honesty, now its just a cry for attention and regurgitating tired out memes/shitposts. I blame Neogaf

>>149439488
>Flat
You are british and therefore your position and opinions do not matter.

>>149447439
And it's so sparsely used that the first page doesn't even account for a whole year of usage.

>>149447441
>2nd page has part of a Ben10 porn comic
Oh, guess you're a stupid pedophile too.

>>149439300 (OP)
As someone who grew up with the first 2 Donner movies and Returns, I wasn’t really feeling it with this. I mean, it’s better than Man of Steel, without a doubt. The tone’s very reminiscent of that era.
But I think it suffers from being the first movie in its continuity while also saying all these other superniggas are flying around doing stuff and changing things from Superman’s origin story while nixing the origin story (which I get if it’s the same old shit about Krypton blowing up and Pa Kent dying, and yet……).

>>149447441
They also called M3GAN good

>>149447591
M3GAN was okay.

>>149447412
>This isn't a thing, tourist.

Nah, it definitely is. There's a very strong POPULAR THING BAD streak here because some people think it's a way to make themselves look smart.

Superman Returns pulled in the equivalent of 625 million.
If we remove the production budget that would be an equivalent gain of just about 300 million (Superman Returns budget was 204 million when all things was calculated. Absolutely insane budget for the time.)
So that would be 525 million for this one.
Do you think it will be able to beat it?

>>149439300 (OP)
It was good.

>>149447848
>Superman is preventing the buy from fully raising the flag
What a super dick.

>>149447759
Superman Returns pulled in $391.1 million without inflation on a 223 million dollar budget. It pulled in 200 mil domestic and 191 mil over seas. I think 2025 Superman will easily clear those numbers.

>>149447990
>without inflation
Yeah no shit, but will it be able to pull an equivalent amount? Will it be able to clear the 300 million above the budget mark, or beyond that, pull above 625 million?

>Everyone hates it!
>Everyone loves it!
>No one cares!
So it's a perfectly middle of the road movie that's going to be largely forgotten by most people, but have decently size fanbase?

>>149448250
Yes. Exactly like The Suicide Squad (which also sucked).

>>149447848
Ironic tagline. The reason people liked this shit compared to the Snyderjeet movies is because they're afraid to look up to anything. They don't want to strain their necks. So they look straight ahead to the next easy popcorn flick and call it a day.

>>149439300 (OP)
Are you from Israel? Cause those are the only people who feel mocked by this movie.

WB needs to restore the Snyderverse as an Elseworlds. Because there only global hits after Aquaman have been Joker and the Batman . When DC Abandoned the Snyderverse a huge chunk of the International Abandoned them.

>>149439300 (OP)
>Yet another thread where a differing opinion on the film is astroturfed with praise and ad hominems against the OP

I'll be so glad when everyone forgets about this movie a month from now.