copium

Reminds me of the bullshit The Rock tried to use to justify underwhelming with Black Adam.

honestly that's fair. As a US citizen myself, I too am not the biggest fan of the current state of my beautiful country.
I fully understand why foreigners are not comfortable with supporting a movie starring THE quintessential American Superhero.
Ultimately its their loss however because its the only movie of 2025 that matters

>>149491241
idk if its the same situation. Superman made $400M in JUST two weeks, Black Adam only made $300M in its total theatrical run.
Superman is not a "flop" in anyway as certain rage baiters on the internet would want you to believe.

>>149491206 (OP)
Thanks Donald, now Superman will be dismissed as yet more Zionist propaganda.

>>149491206 (OP)
The anti-American sentiment is definitely true though. Most people internationally and most Americans are sick of the current American administration. Imagine losing majority of your soft power within a few weeks because a delusional orange turd is running a circus.

Superman is not kino material to the average guy. You can pass up a Superman flick because you can more or less guess it's about to be some moralfagging and some dude saving civillians but "Batman movie" arouses intrigue in people because of the Nolan trilogy that blasted through pop culture like a meteor.
So the problem isn't that Superman isn't well-known, he's just not that well-regarded.

>>149491318
>Ultimately its their loss however because its the only movie of 2025 that matters
We'll just pirate it bro
Well the very few of us who give a shit at least

>>149491378
>>149491416
Things really aren't any better or worse than they have been for more than a decade. The media is just comically bias and is able to get libtards worked up more when a Republican is in office. This of course effects foreign views on the U.S.

>>149491351
By all other metrics it was a hit, idk why some people are so eager to see it fail (I mean other than snyderjeets).
>great opening week
>great domestic sales
>very good reviews
>zaslav, the person who gunn needed to impress the most, is happy with it
Overseas BO is the only disappointing part but everyones laser focused on it

How embarrassing...

>>149491416
>>149491464
anti-american thinking has been a thing prior to Trump's first mandate.

Gunn's just coping though.

>>149491485
How embarrassing for you to post the Critical Drinker.

>>149491490
Cope, Gunncel

>>149491485
>You need to make 4 times the budget to make any profit!

Why do these numbers keep increasing?

>>149491478
thirdies think we care about their opinions for some reason

>>149491206 (OP)

I think it's less an issue of "anti-american sentiment" and more the fact that the previous 20 superhero movies of any kind have been shit.

>>149491511
no you dont understand it needs to make one million trillion bajillion dollars or it's the biggest flop of the century and zaslav is going to personally behead gunn

>>149491416
Yeah, but unless you're in Lesotho or Vietnam, which actually suffered from the break of trade and lost jobs, you laugh at the orange one and his voters, not hate America for his actions.
>>149491206 (OP)
Superman is definitely known worldwide. He IS seen as more of an old-fashioned hero though, rather than a new sensation.

>>149491511
if you start with the movie not making money you will arrive at a constantly moving goalpost

>>149491503
No, you cope. You alcoholic.

>>149491241
The black Adam shilling will never stop being funny.

>>149491487
Yes, but now Trump is threatening to invade the Netherlands.

>>149491485
Where did he get those numbers?

>>149491511
People add a "100k" for marking, than multiply by 2 to account for the theaters' cut.

Bob's burgers' movie was thought to have been a flop before they disclosed that the costs with marketing was included in the official budget.

>>149491206 (OP)
>we have a certain amount of anti-American sentiment around the world right now
>Now
What being a sheltered burger does to a motherfucker

>>149491478
Overseas boxoffice was only initially bad. It basically doubled between week 1 and 2. There was only like a 10-15% drop for int box office. So clearly people are showing up now. Domestic meanwhile not only beat projections, not only had the strongest weekday retention of the year, but they lowered Fantastic Four's already low projections because there's a good chance Superman's third week is going to cut into its performance. The movie won.

>>149491511
Because it keeps making money. This exact thing happened during the Snyder days, with BvS being hailed as an 800m flop. 1 Billion tends to be the magic "Shut the fuck up" number that stifles such claims.

>>149491770
BvS had a catastrophic drop, only beaten by nuwars

>>149491206 (OP)
the zionist are really shilling hard that the movie is flopping

>>149491599
And Canada and Mexico. Supposedly threaten to start a nuclear war with China too.

>>149491599
>Trump is threatening to invade the Netherlands
Why?

>>149491416
>a delusional orange turd
>>149491555
>the orange one
Trump is Voldemort. You can say his name.

>>149491867
For whatever reason Orangeman wants it to be a state alongside Canada and Mexico.

>>149491485
>posting The Critical Grifter

Embarrassing indeed.

>>149491896
>>149491867
You mean Greenland.

>>149491612
From the power of wishful thinking.

>>149491793
Yeah, but that isn't what was being asserted at the time (or at least not as often). The assertion was that the budget (typically marketing) was always more than whatever was made at the box office.

>>149491759
Overseas is still terrible, it had a good hold but it's from low numbers. Ideally it's global opening should have been in the 300 range but since it was like 220 it's going to miss the 600 mark

>>149491665
>100k
100 million typically for a blockbuster, 200 million for Superman because of stupid shit like this

>>149491241
Black Adam is ten times more marketable than Superman, Superman was a 40's propaganda campaign against rum smugglers and the Japanese. It's why Superman has never been popular overseas, he's a constant reminder of America's fascist behavior during WW2.

>>149492028
nah it needs at least tree fiddy

>>149492156
You're being smug but the marketing budget is literally around 200 million.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/james-gunn-superman-doesnt-need-make-700-million-successful-1236308516/

It is actually sad that the large amount of hatred comes less for his antics as you’d presume and more because a country is currently against the multiculturalism globohomo agenda by massive corporations and billionaires, and trying to secure borders from hoards of immigrants and white replacement
Its said people got psyoped into thinking this.

>>149491378
WHICH IS HILARIOUSLY IRONIC

>>149491318
>>149491206 (OP)
Its why all the captain america movies bo- oh wait.

>>149492218
Are you retarded? No one outside of America hates Trump because of his border policy. They hate him because he's a quick to upset narcissist with his finger on the trigger who doesn't understand what he's doing. For fucks sake he's a republican president who wants Canada to become a state not understanding that such an action would mean no republican would ever be elected again. And worse yet his retarded base celebrates his retarded decisions.

>>149491990
I think the main issue is that while BvS wasn't a flop it released at the peak of the capeshit market and was the first on-screen instance of Batman and Superman meeting so it should have done much better than it did.

>>149492218
>Its said people got psyoped into thinking this.
Highly ironic

James Gunn you do not know God. You do not have a good relationship with your father. Of course you're unable to write Superman. He's supposed to be the fictional character that is the closest jump to God and civic pride. James Gunn has never written a father figure in a positive light. He wouldn't know how. He's far too entrenched in his sins to ever write a paragon like Superman in the way that he deserves that resonates with audiences. James Gunn wrote James Gunn as Superman. Yelling in the face of your enemy about a dog like you're a hysterical woman from the 20's. Embarrassing.

>>149492449
This is all true. But at least Zack Snyder is gone. And for THAT, we should all thank God.

>>149492436
>Uh oh too bad you just made a typo on 4chan

>>149492344
Actually the first Cap didn't use the name Captain America internationally and it didn't do all that well overseas. The second one did better, but it was after Avengers and released during the MCUs rise but still in many territories the films went by "The First Avenger" franchise title. They're The First Avenger, The First Avenger Returns, and The First Avenger War of the Heroes.

Burgers: People hate us?? What'd we ever to to them??

>>149492499
Even more funny you think I'm talking about a typo.

>>149492344
Brave new whatever did well?

>>149492529
I don’t like the Epstein pedophile as I mentioned which is the funny part of your cope posts

>>149492344
So Trump implemented tariffs against U.S's biggest allies during the time Captain America trilogy was being made?

>>149492402
>No one outside of America hates Trump because of his border policy.
Those german chicks that got detained and deported probably aren't fans.

>>149491206 (OP)
>He is not a big known superhero in some places like Batman is
Didn't this guy used to be at Marvel
You know, the studio that famously started out with a handful of C list characters

Superman is best when you remove the "and the American way" gayness, no one wants that shit

>>149492449
Are you retarded? James Gunn isnt here nor post here. Go post your retarded message directed at him on Twitter.

>>149491318
the rest of the world is angry at USA for not having open borders?

>>149491464
You are willfully living on a delusion.

>>149491416
This.

Honestly, it feels like DC just keeps getting screwed. Sometimes it's their own fault, sometimes it's just because of the current climate we're in.

>>149492632
"A Better Tomorrow," is unironically a WAY better, more fitting end to that slogan.

>>149492060
why the fuck would the japanese care how americans treated the japanese who lived in america?
you letists are insane. out of one side of your mouth you say "immigrants are just as american as anyone!" then from the other "all people with foreign ancestry will always be connected to their true homeland, and those in that homeland care about their compatriots that are coloni- uh i mean repatriated to good ol-usa!"

>>149491485
>yay, alcoholism!

>>149491612
The bottom of a bottle. Where else?

>>149491206 (OP)
We'll see what happens with Fantastic Four, who are not as big as Superman but sort of in the same boat, most people have heard of them but their recent movies haven't been anything to make them a big draw like Spider-Man or Batman.

It seems like a lot of countries are just done with superheroes as a regular part of their film diet. Sort of like how Europeans were flocking to see and make Westerns in the '60s and then they weren't.

>>149492904
No idea what the fuck you are talking about, but Superman's origins in white supremacy and conformist assimilationist imperialism give everyone else the ick. It's why Black Adam is much more popular.

>>149492940
the japanese, the most conformist people in the fucking world. is upset at superman for being a symbol of conformism???

>>149491896
>For whatever reason
Dementia, and it presents itself worse than it did with Biden, who already had surgery done for brain cancer earlier in his life.

>>149491916
And Panama. And California.

>>149492914
>We'll see what happens with Fantastic Four
You know the Human Torch? The attractive, thrill-seeking, skirt-chasing member of the 4 that the youngest and more rambunctious of the age group the F4 is designed to appeal to would like the most? He's gay in this movie. Also you know how Thing is the comedic relief and larger than life to make up for the way he looks while also being genuine and heartfelt? He just wants to go home and he has zero quips. He's The Incredible Sulk. You can come to your own conclusions about Reed and Sue but Thing and Johnny were DESIGNED to get attention on them. And now they absolutely suck. Men won't get behind Johnny (not in the way he likes) nor the mascot of the team so this is dead in the water.

>>149492940
(cont)
>>149492964
people like you only look at other nations and peoples like accecories to your childish barney childrens-tv-shot collage. these are not people with actualy history and culture to you. you only feel that other peoples exists to enrich white countries(wich you view lacking, for whatever reason). if there was no chance of other peoples moving to white countries they would be dead to you.

>>149492632
Well, when the American Way becomes associated with mass deportation, slapdash concentration camps that flood during hurricane season, making more wars instead of ending the ongoing ones, tyrannical anti-abortion law enforcement, and doing the will of billionaires over the average blue collar worker, people want to hold you at arm's length instead of a full embrace where they can stick a dagger in your back.

>>149492904
Edgy pic. You have to be 18+ to post here.

>>149493067
do you feel like you belong here for having your feathers ruffled by a hypberbolic reaction pick?

>>149493067
>when the American Way becomes associated with mass deportation, slapdash concentration camps that flood during hurricane season, making more wars instead of ending the ongoing ones, tyrannical anti-abortion law enforcement, and doing the will of billionaires over the average blue collar worker
That's always been the "American way". America is the country of slavery, segregation, Tuskegee experiments, internment camps, Indian "reservations", and terror bombings.

>>149492402
It amazes me how how many people take the dumb shit talking Trump does literally. He has been saying retarded shit his entire life simply to get a rise out of people and to keep himself in the news cycle. He was never serious about annexing Canada.

>>149493067
>Well, when the American Way becomes associated with mass deportation, slapdash concentration camps that flood during hurricane season, making more wars instead of ending the ongoing ones, tyrannical anti-abortion law enforcement, and doing the will of billionaires over the average blue collar worker, people want to hold you at arm's length instead of a full embrace where they can stick a dagger in your back.
I would also argue that America has always stood for fucked up shit, like slavery, genocide of the natives, Jim Crow, internment camps, destabilization of Latin America, etc., so yeah, "The American Way," has always been fucked.

>>149492987
I think you're probably right about the reception, though I'm not ruling out that the movie will be entertaining, as I liked WandaVision a lot (yes, even most of the finale).

On the other hand some of the marketing suggests they're trying to pull in more of the female viewers who showed up to watch WandaVision and returned to watch Agatha. That won't work. They'll show up when they bring Wanda back, they can't duplicate it with a new character, especially if they seem to be making her more prominent than the rest of the team.

>>149493181
>like slavery,
why do you attribute something unique about american slavery? just as many slaves from africa whent to the arab countries, but you dont associate them with slaver
>uhm, cus they brown, they good boys.

>>149493067
>>149493130
None of what you list is unique to America.

>>149493130
>>149493181
I'm Canadian and I think OP has a point in that even though America has, in the past, been objectively more evil than it currently is, I've never seen the level of anger that there is now.

The reason, of course, is that while the Iraq war was worse, it was done while the U.S. was friendly to Canada even as we refused to get into the war.

All that matters is whether it's being done to us or to them.

>>149493169
>Trump is just joking
Christ, you're fucking stupid

>>149493233
Two atrocities being committed doesn't make one better, anon.

>>149493247
Well yeah, people tend to get mad when you push important allies away for no "real" reason (the real reason is that Trump is bankrolled by Putin and wants to deliberately destabilize America and NATO).

>>149493247
>I've never seen the level of anger that there is now.
The information is just better available to everyone

>>149493130
>>149493235
There's always two of you, pidor.

>>149493169
Where's the Epstein files?

>>149493281
>Two atrocities being committed doesn't make one better, anon.
would you apply the same moral stance and say that
>"arab countries have always stood for slavery"
arab countries practiced slavery way longer than america and some still do, so it would be a more apt description.

Why is this "anti-american sentiment" only affecting a 4/10 movie?

>>149493330
>would you apply the same moral stance and say that
>"arab countries have always stood for slavery"
>arab countries practiced slavery way longer than america and some still do, so it would be a more apt description.
Yes, you retard with a persecution complex.

Also on that note, PEOPLE HERE TALK ABOUT AMERICAN SLAVERY MORE BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY EFFECTS THEM. How is that so hard to understand?

>>149493281
Trump has always loved tariffs and other shit even when Russia was still Communist. I think if he was doing this on Russian orders it would be way easier to take, but he actually does think we've been ripping America off and that it's partly our fault America doesn't make things any more.

>>149491206 (OP)
lol, and only yesterday they calimed it was Man of Steel as a film at fault for the fact that it didnt bring as much money as a Batman film or a Spiderman film and not cause Superman isnt as popular as he used to be
The whole rebooting instead of making a MoS 2 was motivated by that MoS was a "flop"

>>149493369
i didnt complain that people here talk so much about american slavery, i dont expect arabs, or former black slaves of arabs(as there is none, they were all castrated on their arrival) to be here to talk about arab slavery.
i complained that you seem to use american slavery as a point for why its an uniquely evil/hated country
>>149493130
>>149493181
you mentioned american slavery as one of the things that causes people to hate america today. this is of course absurd, as nobody hates arab countries today for 19th century slavery

>>149493436
Slavery was never practiced in the Muslim world.

>>149493281
>Trump is bankrolled by Putin
>continues supplying weapons to Ukraine

>>149493443
heh

>>149493436
>i complained that you seem to use american slavery as a point for why its an uniquely evil/hated country
>you mentioned american slavery as one of the things that causes people to hate america today. this is of course absurd, as nobody hates arab countries today for 19th century slavery
Plenty of people hate modern Arab countries for slavery today and point out how shitty the Arab slave trade was. You're just deflecting from how awful US slavery was. As I said, MANY people in the US and outside of it rightfully feel like building a country off the back of slavery was a pretty shitty thing to do, anon.

>>149493460
Congress is giving weapons to Ukraine and Trump signs off on it for plausible deniability. Reminder that the KGB considered him an asset going back to the 80's.

>>149493169
How about he actually does his fucking job and governs then instead of saying a bunch of retarded shit to make his country globally hated?

Trump's staffers have went on record saying that he actually was serious about Canada and Greenland by the way, so that's not even a valid argument here. Trump supporters love to claim that everything retarded he says is just a joke until he actually acts on it.

>>149493436
People hate Arab countries for a thousand different reasons including modern slavery in places like Dubai

>>149491511
Because these cunts get their clicks through outrage farming.

>>149493460
>>149493521
Those weapons and aid were already signed for by the Biden administration. Gotta stay on Zelenskyy's good side if he wants that coveted peace deal.

>>149493521
if they still hate arab countries for their 19th century slavery they are either realy old or insane
>>149493556
america stopped slavery in the 19th century, if that affects your view of america today, you are a weirdo.

>>149491206 (OP)
James Gunn was brave when he decided to take on this lesser known superhero.

>>149493616
America never stopped slavery, they just restructured it into sharecropping and for-profit-prisons.

>>149493616
>america stopped slavery in the 19th century
oh sweet summer child
https://www.antislavery.org/latest/us-blueberry-farms-accused-using-child-labour/

>>149493626
And just like Guardians of the Galaxy, it worked in his favor.

>latinos don't care about what Spain did to them for 300 years.
>People still butthurt about america using slaves
Why this bias? What Spain did was worse yet no one cares.

>>149493635
>sharecropping
this happens because of conglomeration of crop fields, and population increase. if we let our population shrink this will solve itself, but leftists have now adopted the
>"we need eternal growth!"
to justify open borders
>for-profit-prisons.
cant defend that, havent heard anything good about them
>>149493643
if we prosecuted employeers who hired illegals as labourers this problem would disapear overnight

>>149493643
its wong, but this is one case from 2009. this probably happens alot more in other countries not named the united states of america

>>149493616
>america stopped slavery in the 19th century,
You're legitimately stupid if you really think tihs.

>>149493733
Oh wait, I guess you really are an idiot.

>>149493713
Plenty of people think the caste system and racism Spain deeply ingrained into Latinos was fucked up. You just intentionally don't bother to see it.

>>149493675
Except this movie will make less than all of the Guardians movies, which is pathetic and shows DC's name is still dirt.

>>149491206 (OP)
British movie critics didn't like the movie and the explanations I've seen are mostly about how Gunn's style and sense of humor is very American so it doesn't appeal to them as much.

>>149493521
>MANY people in the US and outside of it rightfully feel like building a country off the back of slavery was a pretty shitty thing to do, anon.

I find it very hard to believe that people outside of the US would give a shit that they use slaves. I can understand American who ancestor were slave though.

>>149493905
>I find it very hard to believe that people outside of the US would give a shit that they use slaves. I can understand American who ancestor were slave though.
>UK
>Canada
>most of West Europe
>the Caribbean
Come on, anon.

>>149493867
what makes me an idiot? are you just upset that i dont repeat bullshit you read on blusky or is there something i said you actually disagree with i said?

is your stance that NO EMPLOYEE ABUSE OR EXPLOITATION MUST TAKE PLACE IN A COUNTRY ANYWHERE AT ANY LEVEL EVER EVER EVER EVER OR IT MEAN SLAVERY IS LEGAL IN THAT COUNTRY!!!!!

is this your very serious stance?

>>149493713
t.not latino or from spain

liking Speedy as a cartoon character doesn't mean I like the USA demonizing immigrants.

>>149493947
>"immigrtants"
they are illegals that siphon money from usa back to their shitthole countries. they are parasites that devalue the value of citizens work

>>149492402
Canada is ten percent (10%) of your population, moron.

>>149493940
>what makes me an idiot?
What makes you an idiot are your disingenuous arguments where you keep pretending to be stupid and acting like no one could possibly dislike America for slavery despite this being contrary to reality. PLENTY of people in the US and outside of it have every right to be appalled by it. That's on top of your deliberate fake naivete where you pretend like slavery ever ended in this country. It's especially stupid when the poor, period, regardless of race, are all arguably glorified slaves still. Or your insistence that employee abuse or exploitation (which is still extremely shitty btw), is comparable to outright slavery.

>>149491485
The movie cost $300 mil plus marketing even if you dont want to believe Gunn lying about the tax credit from filming in Ohio its still at that range with the marketing cost, its more like it needs over $800 mil meaning it needs to do better than The Batman but WB will cope with it at least going over half a billion even if thats ugly compared to other movies

>>149493971
the citizens don't want to work

>ctrl F "Trump"
15 results

Gunnpedo's movie is a flop lmao

>>149492914
I'm rooting for FF to do worse than Superman because I want Marvel to go into the next Avengers film having announced an entire cast of losers, plus Downey, who may not be a draw if he's not (sort of) playing Tony Stark.

After Doctor Strange 2, Thor 4, Ant-Man 3 and even the Marvels (there were people who liked the original, I'm told) I want Disney to be stuck with an overpriced Avengers movie where everyone is damaged goods.

I don't feel the same way about DC. They're comically inept but they haven't gone out of their way to make the worst decisions for every character.

>>149493995
slavery is the act of owning a person.
there is no person in the entirety of the united states that is alowed to own a person or owns someone.
none of these illegals who work at these shitty platnations comes over from mexico because they hear they get to be owned by someone. if they werent paid they would leave, if they werent paid they would stop coming(wich would be great).

and most people who hate america for former slavery(all marxists or other insane ideologues) do not hate arab countries for their former slavery. these people are only using it as an excuse to present their hatred for usa wich usualy has way more sillier and weaker justifications(usa MUST fund tranny surgeries in india, usa MUST abolish the family structure)
a serious reason to hate america would be their war in afghanistan or iraq, not because they practiced slavery 200 years ago

>>149491485
>posting that hack writer
only thing embarrassing is being a fan of his

>>149491490
>>149491898
>>149492907
>>149494173
>/co/mblr seething about a jewtuber who doesn't 100% kowtow to the lefty progressive message
Must be a day ending in Y

>>149493912
Might just be me then. Cause I certainly don't care that the US, or any countries for that matter, use slaves. Granted, I 'am pretty apathetic toward these topics.

>>149494139
>slavery is the act of owning a person.
>there is no person in the entirety of the united states that is alowed to own a person or owns someone.
There are other definitions of slavery, retard. When you are forced to work for pennies while incarcerated, you are effectively a slave. When the working class is forced to work 2-3 jobs while communing with others who are also worked to work 2-3 jobs to live, and they are too tired to protest and organize, when the people who are supposed to govern just make cost of living higher while doing nothing to improve their wages, they are effectively slaves as well. When one hospital bill can send you into debt, which can and will effect your credit, your ability to get and keep an apartment or hoes, you are effectively a slave as well.

>
none of these illegals who work at these shitty platnations comes over from mexico because they hear they get to be owned by someone. if they werent paid they would leave, if they werent paid they would stop coming(wich would be great).
Plenty of illegals are forced to work in shitty working conditions where they're barely paid.

>and most people who hate america for former slavery(all marxists or other insane ideologues) do not hate arab countries for their former slavery. these people are only using it as an excuse to present their hatred for usa wich usualy has way more sillier and weaker justifications(usa MUST fund tranny surgeries in india, usa MUST abolish the family structure)
Anyone who uses the term 'marxist' as a pejorative is by default a retard. That doesn't even describe anything you're talking about.

>a serious reason to hate america would be their war in afghanistan or iraq, not because they practiced slavery 200 years ago
The Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were fucking stupid and they caused a lot of harm but slavery harms a lot of people today too.

>>149491511
Because the studio gets only part of the BO office gross, retard.

>>149494139
nobody hates america because of muh slavery (except maybe american blacks and certain leftists), there is plenty of other reasons for people around the world to hate you guys

>>149494012
during a recent ICE raid at a omaha meatplant that emptied it of illegal labourers it was imediatly filled with citizens. all who presumably got a bit higher hourly pay. this is a common pattern after all ICE raids on such plants.
the citizens DO want to work. you have just created hazy justifications for why your shitty rapist brother DESERVES to go to usa and work for a lower wage than a citizen and siphon the us dollar to your shitty favela, die paco!

>>149494227

>>149494245
if you replace cheap illegals with more expencive american labor the prices just goes up making the wage more useless in the long run

I feel like a great contribution of the internet is to make all political arguments about semantics, all the time.

The world could be crushed by a giant Godzilla foot and everyone would be arguing about whether or not it qualifies as slavery, genocide and colonialism.

>>149494227
i think those in prison should be expected to work for free, in reasonable hours, 4-5 hours or so in weekdays. as an enrichment to their daily lives and paying back to society.
>When the working class is forced to work 2-3 jobs
removing illegals from the job marked would help with this dramaticaly, removing h1b visas is also a must.
and marxist is a pejorative. marxist believe nothing is true, everything is a social construct, except for MY ideas that are the one true belief!
what do you suggest is the solution to this? if its price fixing its a no go from the begining.

>>149494340
the price goes up cents for each hourly dollar in increased wages. this is not a problem

>>149494370
post modernism isn't marxism retard

>>149494370
true marxist recognize illegals and h1b jeets are modern scabs.

>janny only banning one side of the argument
Must be a day ending in Y

>>149494239
Such as....

>>149494370
forgot
>>149494227
>Plenty of illegals are forced to work in shitty working conditions where they're barely paid.
and if they werent paid they would stop coming.
them being barely paid in dollars is better than being barely paid in pesos in their shitty country.

>>149494405
>>149494422
maybe im wrong, but i do see people who wants to abolish the family call themselves trained/proud marxists

>post insulting brown people
>deleted
>this post insulting white people>>149494012
>fine
No wonder /co/mblr keeps losing users year over year

>>149491485
guy that profits on negativity says something negative

>>149492028
definitely costs millions to hang a dummy up.

>>149494423
they only banned the side that was in the wrong

>>149494202
I love the Critical Drinker. He's hilarious. But he's also just an actor and you're a dummy if you take anything he says at face value.

>>149491485
is he... is he retarded?

>>149494807
if gunn personaly draged the dummy up and sneakily hung it there like a prankster it would probably be pretty cheap.
dummy + plane tickets + unregular bagage fee
around 3000 dollars(it looks like an expensive dummy).

>>149494885
Nope. Do you know how much money he makes a year grifting money out of retarded right wing chuds? He's taking advantage of the system and living the good life doing it.

>>149494202
not even that he sometimes makes a point but this guy is actually a shitty writer who did this shit to sell his horrible books. even his hardcore fans laughed at his shitty books.

also he clearly doesn't do any research on most of the shit he bitches about unless someone else goes on his podcast and explains it to him. which only leads him to just regurgitating their words without thought.

>>149492553
$415M on a $180M budget despite bad reviews. Wasn't a hit, but wasn't a bomb either and surpassed the estimates box office experts had going for it.

>>149494922
so you think it was a good idea to try to turn marvel and star wars into girl properties? and anyone saying the opposite always lie about it and actually also think it was a good idea?

>>149491416
This is such a liberal cope. America has always been hated. They're known as the assholes of the world. They invaded, killed and overthrowed governments around the world in order to keep resources cheap for their companies. Trump is the result of capitalist realism and decades of ignoring the working class. He's a symptom, not the disease. It's just that Superman is a big therapy for upper-class American liberals and the rest of the world can't connect

>>149491485
This guy and his whole circlejerk crew occasionally have good points but holy shit have they all become self-parody fuckheads. They now nitpick and stay in a negative bubble for the sake of maintaining their personas and generate content. So they now completely undermine stuff that does deserve harsh criticism

>>149495023
This movie was a decent follow up on Winter Soldier and The Hulk

>>149495037
Your pic isn't for women. It's for trans women

>>149495135
I thought so too. Captain America VS. Red Hulk was the best MCU action scene in a while, and the dogfight above the dead Celestial was pretty great too. But then again, I'm a jets guy.

>>149494426
zionism, wars, unrestrained capitalism, arrogance, enviromental destuction, climate denialism, igmorance, imperialism, cultural degredation, globohomo the list goes on

>>149495037
No, Disney is dumb for doing that. But the Critical Grifter is smart for doing what he does. Negativity = $$$

>>149494516
because their retards. marxism has never been about the family unit or identity politics, that being said the nuclear family is a capitalist construct.
if you wan't to be truly trad you would want to normalize closer connection to the extended family and the local community

>>149492344
You lack reading comprehension skills

>>149492828
No but your retarded post is a good example why nobody likes Americans.

>>149495098
>decades of ignoring the working class
>thinking that’s why people like Trump

>>149495792
when these people say abolish the family they mean remove guardship associated with with a mother and father.
like some in this thread they also stretch the meaning of the world slavery to call children slaves to their parents.
they come up with ridiculous ideas such as longhouses where all children are raised comunnaly and have no special conection with their real parents. this they mean will remove slaver and take away unfair advantages.

nothing about being friends with your neighbours or visiting grandma's and aunts

superman isn’t punk rock btdesu he’s not racist and doesn’t do drugs

>>149491464
I’m sorry but you’re on crack. The tariff shit he’s been pulling this year is 1- unprecedented, and 2- has made every country in the world dislike america more than then did before it.

>>149495792
>i don't believe the things you say i believe
>but yeah i do agree with what you just said
do you even hear yourself

>>149495985
they dislike america because they can no longer leech of america

>>149491206 (OP)
>superman
literally who?

>>149495918
did he even throw a single brick at a cop in that movie

>>149496097
It’s globalism retard everyone leeches off everyone else.

>>149496193
if everyone had very favorable trades with USA and USA had very few, natural free market trades.

that would mean the state of USA would have good leverage in using tariffs to force countries to adhere to new demands. as none of these countries would want to lose USA as a trading partner, because even a worse deal is still a good deal.

this could also be called globalism, sucks to suck bucko

>>149495985
Why is it fine for other countries to impose tariffs on America but when America does the same thing it's suddenly a huge injustice?
>>149496193
If everyone does it then what's the big deal? America shouldn't be criticized any more or less for what everyone else is doing.

>>149491416
I hate non Americans, and I hate Americans who don't look like this. This is the only "true American" and that's the only good person in the world. Make of that, what you will foreigner/blue hair.

>>149491416
MIGGERS cant except that Trump is an Israeli puppet who’s ruining the country

>>149496347
Took off your name huh?

>>149492156
GOD DAMN YOU LOCH NESS MONSTAH I AIN'T GIVIN YOU NO TREE FIDDY

>>149495831
Nobody likes Americans because they hate how we can badmouth the best country to live in

>>149491485
It has been confirmed that it only needs to make bake 325 million to break even. Marketing was 100 million according to Gunn

>>149495864
marx never advocated for that thought

>>149496056
ok trumpslop slurping retard

>>149491206 (OP)
Still not a block buster hit

>>149496466
marxism is about the abolition of private property. these people interpret the family dynamic as making children private property. and this must be fixed by making them communal and free

>>149496466
i was wrong
>>149496603
its not an interpretation.
marx did litteraly call for "abolishing the family"
gues i was too charitable towards marxists

>>149491206 (OP)
Yeah totally not like Superman Batman and Spider-Man all known in every country on Earth that can read and doesn't build their houses out of dried poop

>>149496097
They cut off aid to Israel?

>>149491206 (OP)
I know that /co/ doesn't want to hear this, but Superman, post-MOS, fell off so hard as a brand that the character IS obscure among young people in most of the world now.

>>149496685
yep, trump is based like that

>>149491416
>>149492895
>>149492632
don't even fucking try to deny it

>>149492562
you don't even know what a tariff is, faggot

>>149496712
The brand was on the decline far before MoS, which was the most successful portayal of the character since the 1978 film. If anything it revived the brand but it wasn't enough to sustain it.

>>149496685
oops, sorry
>>149496769
im phasing between dimensions and just visited one where trump was based. he had released the epstein files months ago and like 90% of all us based celebrities and politicians have been given capital punishment. both palestine and israel has been turned into trump vacation paradise hotels
but now im in one of the worst timelines

>>149494840
>morbidly obese pedophile trannies are the arbiters of what's right in /co/mblr
No wonder this board is a ghost town

>>149491206 (OP)
Nicka, COUNTRIES WITHOUT RUNNING WATER know who superman is

>>149494875
>glyph

>>149491485
>$225M + $225M = $500M
>It will need to make $700M just to break even
Is he retarded?

>>149497081
Even more retarded than I am anyway, since 225x2 is 450.

>>149492987
he flirts with the silver surfer {female } in the trailers you dumb fucking chud

>>149497070
He probably went to one of Grant Morrison's jerko- I mean, Khaos Magik™ sessions

>>149491485
>posting Critical Drinker
Embarrassing for you, more like.

>>149491416
Trump isn't the issue, it's the 70+ million retards that voted for him and still back him

>>149497081
Given the marketing I'd say it was 250%, so if math serves then 560M.
Much less than 700. There's NO WAY they made their first movie cost 700. That's ridiculous. They'll be lucky to see 600M in the box office.

>>149497108
i really dont think morrison would like synders takes on dc

>>149496449
>100
lol then he lied. It’s been on TV for months in major ad spots (sporting events, nightly news slots). No shot it was under 200.

>>149491464
>Things really aren't any better or worse than they have been for more than a decade

Said by a very stupid individual who doesn’t pay any attention to current affairs. The past decade has fundamentally changed how the rest of the world views the US.

>>149493169
>Bro, bro, bro, you can’t take anything Trump says seriously even though he repeatedly shows that he is being serious about all the insane shit he says and does.

>>149495037
Imagine still being stuck in the "no girls allowed" stage of childhood when you're like 40.

>>149496967
Wyoming rules, bitch. If you ain't a local, get the fuck out!

>>149497776
He is right tho

>>149497776
i dont like stories about girlpower or feminism, you wont trick me into buying that shit by changing things i liked into that, i will just stop buying it.
i see a brave brown latinx character on a cover, i turn my nose up and walk away.

do you understand?

>>149499207
We already knew you were an insecure weirdo loser, anon. That was never in question.

>>149495857
Trump's voters are mostly working class. Don't get me wrong, Trump couldn't care less about his fellow Americans and his policies actively hurt the working class but it's the fault of the American elite that the voters lost faith in the system. It's all neoliberal economy but at least with Trump, the working class get the consolation that his daughter won't marry a latino. It's petty as fuck but America has a ominous fear to racemixing

>>149499281
>but at least with Trump, the working class get the consolation that his daughter won't marry a latino.

Oh please. There are countless stories of Trump voters who thought their latino daughter/son-in-law/husband/wife was going to be safe from deportations because “Trump just wants to get rid of criminals” and then act shocked when turns out that no, Trump is a racist who wants to deport EVERYONE who isn’t white. And then after their family members are detained by ICE they often still say “this is horrible! But I would still vote for him”.

And it doesn’t even matter if you were legally here. The Trump administration will still deport you if they get the chance. And not give a fuck if you point out they made a mistake. Just the other day we learned that ICE deported a 82 year old grandfather to Guatemala. His crime? He had lost his wallet and tried to get a replacement for his lost physical green card that proved his residency was legal. Instead when he arrived at his appointment with his wife to get a new card he was detained by ICE. The wife was not told why. When his family tried to find out wtf was going on, they got no answers because ICE doesn’t give a shit and won’t give that information if they don’t feel like it. So time goes by and suddenly the family is told that grandpa is dead. Then a week later a relative informs the family that actually grandpa is in hospital in Guatemala, because ICE deported him there. The kicker: The old guy isn’t from Guatemala. He has no ties or reason to be deported there because he is from Chile and the United States had granted him political asylum in 1987 because he was a victim of torture during Pinochet’s reign. This is America today. They will detain you, abuse you, deny you your rights and finally deport you to a random country just because you’re not white. That is why they’re rounding up people from home depot and going to schools to arrest parents and six year olds with cancer.

>>149491206 (OP)
He shouldn't have made those snide remakes about his movie being political and telling racists to "deal with it" then.

>>149499503
Trump isn't the first American politician to attempt to do an ethnic cleansing, and most probably neither the last. It's just a thing that Americans do. It's the American way

>>149492060
bait so terrible it loops back to being interesting on account of your severe autism

>>149499541
The movie is doing great in America because chuds either don't have money to buy tickets or only consume movies by piracy. The problem is the international market and they couldn't care less about Gunn's statements

>>149491485
it's almost like a bloated budget makes it harder to get back returns.
No.
NO.
Chuds are wrong. We are winning.
HIRE MORE EXPENSIVE ACTORS. BLOAT PRODUCTION BUDGET. LET DIRECTORS SAY WHAT THEY WANT BEFORE A MOVIES RELEASE.
Everyone else is wrong. But not the Everyone who needs to buy a ticket.

>>149499575
>Alienating nearly 100 million people domestically doesn't hurt potential sales.

>>149499617
But again, those people wouldn't going to buy a ticket anyway. They were already lost unless Superman burn latinos or something

>>149494807
On a tall ass london building, yeah probably.

>>149494807
On a tall ass london building, yeah probably.

>>149491318
>I fully understand why foreigners are not comfortable with supporting a movie starring THE quintessential American Superhero.
That would be Captain America.

>>149499632
A good chunk would've bought tickets, Superman is Superman, but making it some political bumper sticker that shits on a good portion of the country isn't going to put asses in seats.

You make these stupidly expensive films and then basically tell half the country to go fuck itself when, at the end of the say, you need asses in seats.

>>149499700
Your hero is a commie

>>149494807
On a tall ass london building, yeah probably.

>>149499709
Commies slaughter hundreds of millions of people who don't comply with certain opinions.

You guys can't stop crying for Donald Trump for a second? It's pathetic that you guys make everything about him.

>>149499755
....so do capitalists?

>>149499709
That image has nothing communist about it.

>>149499760
>no u
cringe

>>149495831
>nobody likes Americans
They certainly like receiving handouts from us.

>>149499773
>champion of the oppresed
>to devote his existence to helping those in need
That's anti-American these days. Also Superman was conceived as the champion of the New Deal and conservatives have rewritten history by affirming FDR was a communist despite the New Deal saved America from communism.

>>149499796
Every penny America give to the third world become debt multiplied several times. Also that money end on the corrupt local elites chosen and supported by America. It's literal a bribe to keep them on their pocket

>>149499760
Capitalism isn't a perfect system, but it only improved the standard of living until now with all of this extreme corpo shit. That's what happens when monopolies and trusts aren't regulated.

Superman is just a hero that works a job to help support his family as well as himself. He's doing his thing, capitalism and communism is not even on his damn mind unless some idealistic writer spergs out like a retard.

>>149499796
The United States deliberately spent decades building system structures where they handed out tons of money in exchange for foreign countries becoming client states that produced cheaper goods for the US market to consume, thus propping up the US economy

>>149499773
Didn't Elon Musk accused Sesame Street of being commie propaganda?

>>149499825
>not true capitalism

>>149499804
>>champion of the oppresed
>>to devote his existence to helping those in need
that is literally Christian values.
>That's anti-American these days. Also Superman was conceived as the champion of the New Deal and conservatives have rewritten history by affirming FDR was a communist despite the New Deal saved America from communism.
all false and lies
>>149499867
I don't know, but it has nothing to do with what I said.
>>149499879
the anon didn't say that.

>>149499700
The film isn't hurting one bit domestically, it's only internationally that it's doing poorly.

>>149497222
Rëddit is that way faggotard

>>149499503
>he is from Chile and the United States had granted him political asylum in 1987 because he was a victim of torture during Pinochet’s reign
https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/internacional/america-latina/2025/07/21/guatemala-niega-que-chileno-de-82-anos-haya-sido-deportado-desde-eeuu.shtml
One less vote for Jara!

Superman is like, the 3rd most popular superhero, only really behind Batman and Spider-Man. What a dogshit excuse.

If Ironman bombed, the "this guy isn't that well known" excuse *might've* had some kind of weight to it, because the character legitimately owes most of his mainstream recognition to the movies, before them he was not a part of the mainstream, not like Superman, Batman or Spider-Man were.

>>149499541
International markets are not like the american market to care about that

>>149492060
you are either a retarded nigger or a tripping tranny freak, no inbetween lmao

>>149499617
>>149499632
Latinos don't care that much about foreign politics, especially in movies. Unless you have a gay couple, then nobody will bat an eye.

>>149500255
>bombed
but this did not happen.

>>149499709
Being a paragon of justice is not the same as being a communist

>>149491318
It's not because of that. Movie theaters have suffered a decline in attendance post-covid. Most movies struggle at the box office in internacional markets these day.

>>149491416
Why the "orange retard" negotiated 5% NATO spending and the fabled soft power couldn't do shit about countries not spending 2%?

>>149491416
The issue is not Trump but:
>american progressive standards and practices
>constant support of Israel
>woke politics

>>149491206 (OP)
>"Superman is not a well known commodity in some places. He's not a big known superhero like Batman is."
The Gunncope is unreal

Straight from the horse's mouth too

>>149491206 (OP)
I don't think he's wrong though. Superman might be vaguely known to be a character who exists, but he's not interesting overseas the way Batman and Spider-man are, and public opinion about a country does have an effect on products that are obviously from that country, especially when the product is easy to both acquire and do without.

>>149500428
Interesting and well known are two different things

>>149500428
Bro...Both the Boys and Invincible surpassed all expectations.

The fact that Gunn can't make the original compete with the knock-offs should prove how shit of a director he is.

>>149500447
Indeed they are. Superman is well known, but it's a harder sell. (Personally I think Spider-man should be the hardest sell of the three, but for some reason he's extremely popular overseas).
>>149500448
It's easy to surpass low expectations. That is probably also a factor in Gunn saying things like this.

>>149500462
>harder to sell
How?

>>149500471
His upbringing is comparatively dull and involves a place no one cares about, his heroic ideology is the most generic good-guy business and therefore the most likely to already be old hat anywhere etc.Batman and Spider-man also have both better movies this century and cooler toys and logos.

>>149500500
I would say last century too, at least for Batman. His stuff aged better than Superman's, and they both ended with disasters.

>>149500462
Spider-man is a really easy sell, because he has an incredible costume, his powers are not too exaggerated, he has the whole web through the cityscape aesthetic, his fighting style is athletic, he's a teen struggling with coming of age, so you have these moral dilemmas (think killing Green Goblin or indirectly causing the death of Gwen Stacy).

With Superman there's no tension. You know he'll win the fight. You know he'll never make the wrong choices or have to deal with the consequences. Metropolis is a futuristic city with barely any corruption or crime. And Clark Kent is about as interesting as wet paint.

>>149500462
Spider-man is a really easy sell, because he has an incredible costume, his powers are not too exaggerated, he has the whole web through the cityscape aesthetic, his fighting style is athletic, he's a teen struggling with coming of age, so you have these moral dilemmas (think killing Green Goblin or indirectly causing the death of Gwen Stacy).

With Superman there's no tension. You know he'll win the fight. You know he'll never make the wrong choices or have to deal with the consequences. Metropolis is a futuristic city with barely any corruption or crime. And Clark Kent is about as interesting as wet paint.

>>149491206 (OP)
> He's not a big known Superhero
> not a big known Superhero
> a big known Superhero
> Superman

>>149491206 (OP)
It turns out people really just don't want to see an ugly jew.

>>149493169
I can't take Trump seriously, but constantly doing retarded shit like trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico doesn't impose confidence. I know he's gonna keep doing stupid stuff, I just don't take him seriously because he's a joke. Absurdism taken to the extreme

>>149491351
People like the one you responded to just are trying the most bad faith arguments, even a few that can attempt to try to be subtle in how they do this by also attacking someone (who did, in fact, use a bad faith argument to prop up HIS film). They are engaging in these bad faith arguments because so many of their arguments, even through to this past Saturday, about box office, have been so thoroughly disproved in a way that they can no longer factually say 'twitter' or some other similar insult at the actual box office results, to stick with that example.

>>149491416
>>149491318
The thing is that Superman is literally in Red White and Blue. It's not even that he's an American superhero, it's also that he looks like that, whereas Batman doesn't.

If Spider-Man was being rebooted today, in other words if we were getting TASM now, or getting Spider-Man Homecoming in 2025, it's quite possible we would get some potentially softening of the international market for a similar reason.

>>149491887
No, because that's advertising him. I don't want to advertise him. I don't want anybody to know who he is. That's how you get him as president. I want him disenfranchised.

>>149491206 (OP)
> He is not well-know outside
> Also outsiders boycot him for what he is known to be
Make-up your mind.

>>149491206 (OP)
I just watched the movie last night. How was this "Woke"

>>149493733
>we need eternal growth!
This is 100% a capitalist mantra, not a 'leftist' one.

>>149501036
lex luthor gave superman bottom surgery

>>149501048
when I talk to leftist about immigration and how it's ridiculous to expect USA and European countries to take in infinity immigrants I often get the answer
>but the population is shrinking, we need growth
for how long are we expected to grow? 1000 years? 100 000 years?

>>149500746
>With Superman there's no tension. You know he'll win the fight.
this is the fucking stupidest argument I've ever heard. Why are spider-fags so retarded?

>>149501110
>infinity immigrants

Weird how Europe and America has a long history of bringing in immigrant labour to boost their economy and every single time shitheels rant and rave about how there isn’t room. Even though there is and any type of housing issue can be solved by just focusing on government funded affordable housing projects instead of private sector just focusing on building luxury apartments for the wealthy and keeping multiple houses empty because they’re investments instead of places to live in.

When most of western world is dealing with a post-ww2 age bubble where you have increasing amounts of people retiring and living to their 80s and 90s you need younger people to work and help fund pensions. People aren’t having kids so immigration is a way to solve the problem. You get young people to the workforce so that there isn’t a labour shortage and old people aren’t fucked over by suddenly being unable pay for their rent or meds or food if their benefits they spent their entire life paying suddenly got slashed.

>>149501166
see how easily you change from
>"uhm chuddy, infinity growth is a rightwing capitalist-fasci---etc etc etc"
to
>"uhm actually you white people DO need infinite growth"
suddenly the brave little communist gets very angry when you attack capitalism

i do not want infinity brown people because of 2 reasons.
1 they are a incredible heavy burden
these people are drain on our society, they take and take and whatever they give back it will never be enough
https://stat.fi/til/rpk/2018/13/rpk_2018_13_2019-05-16_en.pdf
finland is one of the few european countries that record ethnicity amongs criminals, and im sure you are upset they do.
per capita 100 000 fins commit 8 rapes, but iraqis commit 131 rapes per capita 100 000
not only is this an unnaceptable increase in rapes that follow iraqi immigrants, it is also creates a havy economic burden that drains all economic benefit all iraqis could ever give, on acount of increased police force and prison systems. not acounting for the other ethnicities also.

2 i dont want to be a miniority in my own fucking country. no other but white people are expected to accept becoming miniorities in our own fucking countries. if you went to pakistan and told them soon they will become a miniority to a mix of blacks, vietnamese and hawaiians they would kill you on the spot

>>149491206 (OP)
It's objectively not a flop

>>149501036
This cocky, teenage latina hurts my fragile white male ego

>>149501166
>>149501253
here, i copypasted it for you for easy reading
how many houses or jobs must iraqis create in a fair exchange for a 16x increase in rapes?

>>149501253
Oh look the racist can’t read and just wants to rant.

>>149501350
i read you fine, your points are
>european countries have a long history of bringing in european immigrants
>theres loads of room in your countries, so you can just build homes for them forever
our forests and landscapes are too beautifull to pave over to house brown people
>whites arent having kids and white population is shrinking WICH YOU NEED BROWN PEOPLE TO IMMIGRATE AND SOLVE?
KEK! what the fuck do you think brown people solve? when has brown people solved anything anywhere!?
im dead serious, please point to a city or country that has been improved after an influx of brown people. london? cape town? brazil? chicago?
>you must become a miniority to give old people their benefit check!
no
please read the statistic, i made this crop just for you
>>149501310

>>149491318
I don't think that's the issue, to be honest. Captain America 4 had the US president as a sympathetic character overall and that movie was a dull fest and I don't think it flopped that bad internationally as this. The problem with Superman is that it's a movie for children. If MoS went too hard intonthe The Dark Knight direction (without pulling it off, obviously). This one swong lanes to Batman Forever. It's just a commercial toy of a movie. Entertaining but very shallow and badly crafted. Other than in America, no adult will go to watch this unless they take their kids, and the latest Jurassic Park just came out and kids go crazy for dinosaurs. Also I think it was a mistake to include foreign affairs in this movie. I deeply dislike Israel too and it took balls to criticize it in a major Hollywood movie, but at the end of the day it felt distasteful and disingenuous.

>>149491759
Check the legs F1 is having in Europe to get an idea of what good legs look like here. The box office isn't as front loaded here as in America, so those collosal 60% drops aren't as common. And Superman started with very low numbers to begin with. But in China it had a historical 90% drop, and that coming from also a bad first week.

>>149501350
you need to understand this.
cape town was a seemingly european city in the 1960s, this is what white people create. we crate places you want to live.

when blacks were alowed in it became a murder capital of the world in few years. there is no place in the world this hasnt happened. there is no white city or country, that has had an influx of brown or black people and not imediatly felt immense disasterous effects.
how we life is different than you, we demand better and we give each other better lives, you cannot supply that.

Really fucking funny how the average chud seems so surprised that the majority of the world hates them
C'mon retard, no shit.

You literally hold every one of your political beliefs because you're a social outcast and want normal people to suffer.

>>149501528
the rest of the world hates usa because we dont have healthcare in america? what the fuck is your deluded little brown mind talking about?
you are just projecting youre hate for us, for not letting you in. stay out pajeet or pablo or whatever the fuck you are

>>149501566
Yes, actually.

Everyone hates you, because they know you voted specifically because you hate everyone else.

>>149501566
Check'd

>>149501576
kek'd

>>149495098
Speaking as someone outside the US, I think Americans underestimate how damaging Trump has been to the US's image.

>>149501528
>>149501566
>"everyone hates chuds because they voted out of spite"
>UHHHH ARE YOU SAYING EVERYONE HATES CHUDS BECAUSE WE TOOK AWAY EVERYONE'S HEALTH CARE??? THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE AT ALL!!!

ESL, bot or just stupid?

>>149501574
im not happy with trump. but if the opposing party is for open borders, the only party that exists is the republicans. il consider voting democrat when they stop being for open borders and stop pretending theres something magical about latin americans that white americans dont have,
>>149501576
thanks lib, trumpy will definetively release the list soon

>>149491443
Outside of the big hitters (batman, spiderman) you need to actively cultivate any of the other characters with good casting and direction in order to get casuals to like them.

>this thread
Going to be a hard year for the magachuds

>>149501607
>he said the latest shill line
pottery

>>149501614
liberals were right, and i still wont vote for a open borders party

>>149501617
nobody asked you, pedophile

>>149501615
and thousands of children have been trafficked and raped crossing the border. the only thing fixing this is an armed conflict.
il start if you start

Well, /co/?

>>149501637
he should just make a video of him red in the face demanding the release of the epstein files instead of content farming

Anyone notice how low-energy the average right winger on 4chan is these days?
They can barely muster up the classic "you lost" as you're stomping them into the dirt.
I guess that comes with the territory of supporting a pedophile:
Massive spiritual shame.

>>149501643
you should know by now that the average right wing is a cult
their leader can do no wrong. their ideology is the only one that's right.

>>149501643
>>149501665
Forgot pic

>>149501643
>>149501665
i actually think this situation is pretty funny, trump looks like an idiot even to his base(me). the list wouldnt have been released under the democrats either so this is a pretty good outcome for the epstein situation everything considered. lets hope it escalates

>>149501670
>list wouldnt have been released under the democrats either
democrats were the only ones that wanted it released

honestly this whole debacle has only really proved one thing to the world:

All right wingers are pedophiles. Any accusation coming from a right winger is an admission of guilt.

>>149501607
>but if the opposing party is for open borders

Are you actually ignorant or just disingenuously spreading lies? Democrats have spent years throwing money at border security. Obama was called deporter-in-chief due to how many people he was deporting. Yet somehow they’re for “open borders”? Give me a fucking break.

>>149501682
realy? im glad they changed their minds, would have been good idea to do it during biden tough, he could have just used his autopen and released it then.

im glad this has made you more bold tough, youve been very skittish lately, i like it when you are confrontational

>>149501688
they spent years throwing money at a problem that just needed a change in president to immediately stop.

>>149501607
>but if the opposing party is for open borders
It never was, never has been, probably never will, you have been tricked by propaganda, moron.

And you have been supporting someone who openly claimed to want to be a dictator. there is no moral justification for this.

>>149501706
>at a problem that just needed a change in president to immediately stop.
It wasn't a problem to begin with.

>>149501706
Republicans literally are throwing billions of dollars to ICE now, and it isn’t fixing anything. Instead you’re wrongfully deporting people with visas and green cards over their speech, creating concentration camps with inhumane conditions, terrorising neighbourhoods and inspiring copycats to put on masks and paramilitary gear (while showing no IDs) and then walk around robbing and abusing people as they’re pretending to be ICE officers.

>>149501733
here is from the 2020 democrat primary debate. where all the democrat competed in speaking the best spanish to impress the spanish invaders in hopes of getting their votes.
they are traitors and prefeer foreigners over citizens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hbxa4Upu-A
>>149501737
2 millions non americans invading in 4 years, and the democrats working on an amnesty bill for them, to eventually naturalize them to citizens with voting rights? thats a big fucking problem

>>149501747
theres litteraly no one crossing the border now
in 2024 there were 94k border crossings.
this year there have been 6k til now.
70k deportations since the start of the year.
its not good enough, but its stoped being an invasion
worngfull deportations can be mended, and i dont care about the conditions of invaders

>he's posting tweets from indian crypto grifters as his source now
holy fuck dude how embarrassing

>>149501701
>during Biden tough
>more bold tough
Holy ESL batman
They aren't paying you enough rupees for this shilling

>>149501783
are you some sort of bot?
its not the source, its a story about mexicans not wanting english speaking americans invading their country, a very fine demand like mine.
the source is the youtube link
watch the democrats tro to corner non-citizens as a voting base, its digusting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hbxa4Upu-A

>>149501783
See >>149501796
He's likely an Indian crypto scammer himself.

>>149501801
>>149501796
yes just click on my pfp and you will find the link to my crypto scam in my highlighted post, im about to dump it so be quick

Why do chuddies get so defensive when a normal person immediately disregards any of their favorite e-celeb's tweets?

>>149501809
alright, i'll go on the attack again. so about the jews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGt7_0GEOvo

are these 2 the best bots the CIA can send at me? pfft, weak...

>>149491206 (OP)
Captain America also had to deal with anti-American sentiment and people thinking he was a dumb flag waver but Chris Evans won them over

>>149491206 (OP)
This is cope from Gunn and you blaming Trump or anti-american sentiments over it is retarded

>>149499825
>Superman is just a hero that works a job to help support his family as well as himself. He's doing his thing, capitalism and communism is not even on his damn mind unless some idealistic writer spergs out like a retard.
This isn't really true either, Superman literally started off as a socialist hero. Kek

>>149501628
You did

>>149502559
Nice try, brainlet.

>>149491206 (OP)
The success of a sequel (or in this case, reboot) is based on the quality of the last release

>>149502559
>Gives a definition of the basics and the core traits of the character
>No retake or argument, just double down on your retardation
Why are commies like this?

>>149501528
Most normal people don't like faggotry

>>149501350
Cope

>>149502659
>Gives a definition of the basics and the core traits of the character
You did no such thing, you provided your headcanon.

I'm also not the anon you initially responded to.

I know I'm not the only one getting superhero fatigue. I grew up watching Smallville as a kid, watched all the CW DC including Supergirl and Lois & Superman (yes I know it just ended last year but I was committed to finishing it since it was so good). I even saw reruns of Lois & Clark as well as Superman TAS (missed out on it when it aired but I did see Justice League/Unlimited than went back to see it).

But movies? Who the fuck cares anymore? There's too many fucking cape films. Give it a rest. I never thought I'd say this but after Spider-Man: No Way Home, I just don't want to see another superhero movie.

I was 12 when Superman Returns premiered, then I saw Man of Steel. Why do I need to see another Superman film when they've already done a fantastic job with TV series and animated shows to depict Clark Kent and Superman properly?

They've done the "Superman is an illegal immigrant' since Lois & Clark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKkIfhOd59s

Even Smallville did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlTtKdyg4xA

Hell Justice League: Gods and Monsters blatantly has the biological son of Zod and Lara (who looks very Hispanic-esque) be adopted by a Mexican family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh1dMlWud3U&start=296

>>149503290
No but those came out before I turned 18 which, coincidentally, is when they invented woke.

>>149501137
NTA but my friends are all Marvel fanboys and they always bashed on Superman for being this "perfect being" and his story is stale. Funny enough one of them was a HUGE Kristen Kreuk fan (even had all her magazine cutouts) and missed the whole point of Smallville Clark's journey.

With Spider-Man, he's the geek self-insert. He's scrawny and then becomes super-powered and gets hot girls. And most of his opponents are actually more powerful than Peter, so Spider-Man has to improvise and MacGyver a way to win. Though if Spider-Man ever got serious and didn't hold back, he could definitely kill if not seriously injure foes.

Anyhow, I try to point out Injustice Superman over WHY Superman is such a compelling character. You have god-like power, but you are restrained by your morals and using your powers for good. Injustice: Gods Among Us shows how easy it is for someone with Superman powers to become a dictator for "the greater good".

>>149503318
Well for Lois and Clark it was treated as a joke and plot device in the episode.

In Smallville, it was 2000's liberalism. Nowhere near as obnoxious as woke and Clark wanted to sympathize with a kid who didn't have the advantage of being an alien who could pass as an all-American white boy in Kansas.

It's why Gods and Monsters Superman is pretty interesting. He's not a villain, but a more cynical Superman because he's seen the ugliness of humanity since his adopted family were illegal immigrants and he hated how they and others were treated. He's willing to kill and is more brutal, but he still toes the line as a good guy.

>>149501682
>/co/mblr whining about pedophilia
You have Gwen and Luz threads regularly
You masturbate to the Loud House
20 years of Raven threads

This board doesn't care about children

>>149503318
>invented woke
get help

>>149503318
>>149503345

>muh woke
Jesus fucking christ, do you shits have any degree of self awareness whatsoever?

Like, at all?

>>149491478
Super derangement syndrome by gokufags

>>149503557
I'm the anon who brought up up those clips of Superman being an illegal immigrant here >>149503290. I'm fairly liberal but even I cringe at how modern politics have to be dragged into our cape entertainment.

Fucking Robot Chicken even made fun of Superman being an illegal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaAxUGBzROg&pp=ygUec3VwZXJtYW4gcm9ib3QgY2hpY2tlbiBpbGxlZ2Fs

But now because of Orange Man back in the office and all these ICE crackdowns, now the new Superman film has to address this. I don't even like Trump or MAGA, but I think that they should've just focused on Superman mythos instead of pissing off people with more preaching.

>>149491206 (OP)
My family would rather watch Fantastic Four than Superman.

>>149499700
>half the country
lmao

>>149499782
>can't answer back
>ur CRINGE!!!!!1
lamo

>>149499867
Given that Fox ran a hitpiece on Mr. Rogers ruining young people, I wouldn't put it past him when he says shit like "empathy is for weak people."

>>149492508
>nobody knew the red white and blue ameri an soldier covered in stars was patriotic
Also, I can read Chinese, the title on posters clearly specifies america. Who told you they dropped the name?
>>149492553
The actual ones that mattered did well, I dont give a fuck about new ones.
>>149492562
None of that is name recognition or sentiment. Gunn claimed people were scared of big bad American themes.

Gunnfags aren't sending their best.

>>149503793
Elon Musk is like a real life supervillain. I would call him real life Lex Luthor but Lex is a genious while Musk is a nepobaby

>>149501380
>KEK!

You're that retard who posts KEKAROO and similar shit in places like the Death Battle threads, aren't you?

>>149501528
Can't wait for Gav to turn off the free money spigot in response to this. Let Trump and his oligarch cronies bail out their biggest supporters. They won't.

>>149501643
The "you lost" poster(s) is likely one or two posters that've already given up either because they were banned a long time ago, something got them IRL, or realized that their hatred can't pay rent and own the libs at the same time.

>>149501682
Not all right-wingers, just the GOP, their pimps, and their enablers.

>>149503468
/co/ is not a monolith.

>loli is abuse of real children
Yawn. Take it to rapeape, I'm sure he'll do something this time.

>>149503901
I mean, Elon wants to terra form Mars and make it livable before he dies. Meanwhile Lex already cloned Superman, invented portal travel, has his own pocket dimension for disappearing people, and weaponized monkeys to fight on behalf of him on social media.

>Superman comic gets his ass beat
>Invincible comic gets his ass beat
>One Punch Man doesn't focus on him and instead becoems coomer bait
Is there an an actual comic or Superman story about him being invinicible and dealing with that power and ramifications?
It feels so fucking stupid and lazy to say "OMG he's the strongest and no one can hurt him except now there is a rock and he's just normal,"
I want actual complex storytelling covering this topic.

>>149503972
you would never find me in a death battle thread

>>149496097
Free trade is not leeching. Both countries benefit

>>149504607
You have to be 18+ to post here.

>>149503901
You have to be at least 18 to post on this site.

>>149491485
isn't the marketing part of the budget?

>>149491318
>its the only movie of 2025 that matters
It's cape shit

>>149492632
>>149492895
>>149493067
>>149493130
The "American Way" means 'The American way of life" .
which adheres to the principle of "Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness" and on "The American Dream", which mean that every person has the freedom and opportunity to succeed and attain a better life which emphasizes Democracy, Liberty, and Equality; a phrase that was popularized in 1931, 7 years before Action Comics #1

So really, what Superman really fights for is: Truth, Justice, Life, Liberty, Happiness, Democracy, and Equality.

>>149499935
Christian values are anti-American

>>149505036
You don't have to pretend to like Musk anymore. He isn't Trump's buddy anymore

>>149503209
And saying he is a socialist isn't headcanon either? Shit the fuck up retard.

Fucking permaban americans already. Site quality would improve without these retards shitting everything up.

>ITT: dumb liberals thinking american movie isn't doing as much as in USA because of Trump

>>149497081
>>$225M + $225M = $500M
>>It will need to make $700M just to break even
>Is he retarded?
Theaters take a cut of the profit.