Thread 149832934

The main reason /co/ media is garbage and the "no real villains" bullshit

>>149832934 (OP)
>They don't want kids repeatedly shouting a funny phrase
DESTROY US ALL

comics code authority

>>149832934 (OP)

Ironic for OP to say this when Maxwell Atoms expressed interest to make his new show with Disney on the same AMA.

It's the women

>>149832934 (OP)
Just read comics

>>149832934 (OP)
Looks like Fred Fredburger broke the industry.

>>149832934 (OP)
But when there are irredeemable villains (Toffee, Belos, Adam) /co/ edgelords just side with them and seethe when they don't get redeemed.

>>149832934 (OP)
>They just want some goddamn peace and quiet and maybe a bottle of chardonnay
Wherefore progenate thus?

>>149833415
Women are in charge of comics too

>>149834523
We just got a 500 page BD translated into english for the first time and you're out here complaining about culture war nonsense. There's so much shit to read dude.

>>149834606
>STOP POINTING IT OUT! STOP NOTICING!

>>149834634
Even if women are ruining comics it literally doesn't matter because there's already a lifetime's worth of stuff to read.

>>149834675
Ok then gtfo of this thread where we are complaining about comics and cartoons being ruined. What's your contribution?
>stop talking about it!
No. Lol

>>149834606
Did Caza ever do any drawing guides or tutorials?

>>149834634
The thing I have found about /co/ is that most of you complaining are outrage tourists. Complaints and criticism are fine but I have seen so many people complain about something then prove they haven't read/watched the thing in question or have little to no knowledge. Thanks to South Park we have another new big wave of outrage tourists too, beginning another wave of culture war discussions. It is fine to notice things and talk about them but when that is all you ever talk about and you can't name anything you're reading or watching, all that is left is the outrage. If I ask you to name some stuff you like can you do it or will you just say everything is shit and make the same bland generalizations?

>>149834725
Cartoons are ruined. Not comics. There are hundreds of good indie comics but only a couple dozen good indie cartoons. All of your problems would be solved if you just read comics.

>>149834824
Yawn. Dont tell me how long I've been posting on /co/. I already know. You have no argument. You have no basis. The general quality of all animated entertainment is on the decline. At the same time the homosexual agenda is being oushed by feminists who all got installed into the industry via California's gender quota laws.
These are facts. They happened. They brag about this in the right contexts.

>>149834606
Based anon encouraging discussion of obscure and ambitious /co/ media
>>149834634
Cringe tourist unwilling to go beyond children's pop culture and always angry as a result

>>149834856
Generalizations. Nothing specific. Same grand narratives.
>wahh everything is bad
>why not try something you might enjoy?
>NO because everything is bad and propaganda!
You might not realize it but when good media is ignored because people like you want to wallow, then you contribute to the decline because you refuse to support something you might enjoy. You're exhausting to interact with and you're working for the decline you claim to hate.

>>149834934
>Generalizations. Nothing specific. Same grand narratives.
Yeah, these fags always do this lol.
>>149834856
You talk about someone having "no argument" but you can't even give any examples of anything you're talking about, assuming you're OP.

>>149834204
I just burgerpiphany and realized the cop in that image is Ukrainian

>>149832934 (OP)
The most disturbing thing about that post was the first paragraph. I sympathize with the struggles parents face, but it becomes clearer to me over time that most see their children primarily as burdens and not a human being. Grim world.

>>149832934 (OP)
The sad part is that it isn't just kid's shows that have this problem, it's films for adults too.
You aren't allowed to have movies to motivate you, or criticize society, or for deep reflections. You vill consume the nostalgiaslop, buy ze merchandise, and quote the lines for the online engagement.

>>149832976
People often talk about how's a problem that more kids aren't been born (which is indeed an issue), but then these people shouldn't have kids.

>>149834934
So tired of these fucking tourists. They feel entitled to whine about agendas like we're still in 2016 and haven't picked up a comic in their lives, all they know about comics is based on outrage-bait video thumbnails from fuckers like Nerdrotic or Thinking Critical that are almost strictly about Marvel and DC.

>>149834606
Not that I disagree, but make a fucking thread about it instead of trying to beg for attention in this one.

>Parents for various reasons don't want to give their kids attention and love so stick them in front of devices designed to placate them with bland entertainment.
>These reasons are varied and range from the economy to modern social values.
>But then when parental ignorance allows exploitation they spring back to wanting large scale action to tackle the problems they could solve e.g. see the UK online bill that requires ID or face scans to access adult content online.
>So much of this is about moral panics over their own ignorance, which the entertainment industry has picked up on in how it creates stuff.
Back in the 1970s when women went to work and put their kids into nurseries a bunch of nursery workers were accused of abuse/satanic practices/sexual abuse and later had their convictions overturned precisely because a bunch of these accusations were based on kids saying dumb kid stuff, psychologists claiming they all had repressed memories and this played into parental anxiety over leaving their kids in nurseries.

>>149833283
This but also jews

>>149833283
This

>>149834117
That's because "irredeemable villains" nowadays are just White Men who take an active interest in their own communities.

>>149835126
>Marvel and DC
The 2010s at Marvel were pretty bad and I remember an incident where shop owners basically shouted at Marvel representatives. But people are still talking about the same few big two comics, same few panels, same few issues. Everything else is ignored. I remember an article, I forget where at, talking about how comics social media has gotten pretty big but most of these people talking about comics don't read them. And the culture wars stuff is a whole other thing. People could read, watch and support things they like, but instead they talk and complain because that has become the entertainment, in and of itself. Talking about what you like online is like taking a defensive posture, so even when people do talk about things they like, they do it in a bland posturing way. This feels like death by a thousand cuts because we don't get actual discussion we get the same comments over and over. Heck, if this person gave specific examples about why things are bad, I'd accept that more than the same bland statements.

>>149834117
>/co/ edgelords just side with them and seethe when they don't get redeemed.
In ATLA fandom, the discussion around Azula is fucking mental. There is one autist who is so bad that they are infamous amongst people in the fandom. You can't just have a crazy irredeemable villain because they must get their redemption too.

>>149832934 (OP)
stop noticing
shit like this is why manga is so popular and why comics will never get this shit back the world is done with marxism and liberalism neither of these philosphies are popular anymore and the more right wing the content the more money it will make in the future all you stupid co umblrs will not notice until its to late and forever after youll wonder where it all went wrong ie see sydney sweeney

>>149832934 (OP)
>Nigel Platter would not exist

And nothing of value would be lost

>>149835403
>east vs west comment
I just got the bingo, also you're OP samefagging

>>149835209
>So much of this is about moral panics over their own ignorance
And more importantly, it is an ignorance of their own creation. They refuse to spend time with their kids and they are mad when their kid asks questions or does something because of a tv show.

What they want is a complete abidication of any duty to act on their end, but complete control over what others do so they can continue to not act.

>>149832934 (OP)
>implying Disney doesn't have any villains
Is everyone just gonna let that slide? Disney has some of the most starkly black-and-white morality ever seen. Villains are comically evil with no redeeming qualities, whether it be Jafar or Bill. How exactly is Pete "aspirational"? This whole post is just a bunch of hogwash from some burnt-out creative dude who is saying what you want to hear.

>>149835362
Name 3

>>149835752

1. Abraham Kane
2. Lord Viren
2. Sheev Palpatine

donkey kong bananza is a game for babies and nintendo made k. rool the most evil and insane he's ever been and it was glorious.

>>149835821
Spoilers asshole

>>149835727
Are you a retard? It's talking about modern Disney not having villains such as Jafar, Scar, Ursula, etc like they used to.

This is a problem in all media, they turned Thanos into a guy who just has the wrong idea about the right thing when he's supposed to be literally an insane fuck in love with death itself.

>>149835797
>That's because "irredeemable villains" nowadays are just White Men who take an active interest in their own communities.
>1. First appeared in 2012.
>2. First appeared in 2018
>3. First appeared in 1980.
>nowadays

>>149835821
Fag

>>149835866
>>149835899
did you expect the entire internet to cater to you personally until you bought a switch 2 and played bananza? get real.

>>149835371

Why did you post a stupid dishonest defense of a horrible disgusting comic?

>>149835209
This is why single motherhood fucks up kids 9 times out of 10, and single fatherhood doesn't. Just women being fucking nuts about every fucking thing.

>>149835882
>blatantly ignoring that all of those villains have been rehashed recently in live action offerings and are still evil
>blatantly ignoring Bill because it didn't fit your narrative
I'm noticing

>>149835403
Manga better appeals to boys since it has cool action and tits. Why read today's comics when they can read One Piece instead?

>>149835989
>Bill
He was a ripoff of MLP Discord, just a chaos god anti-hero, not a purely evil villain
>But they existed
The fucking image is talking about NEW cartoons, and most people don't give a shit about what's on Disney XD anyway, when people say Disney they mean movies, so Zootopia, Frozen, Moana, etc etc. None of which have an actual evil villain like Jafar.

>>149835991
I mean, I was of age when manga and comic books were about equal, and when on equal footing manga/anime is way gayer. Zoomers can go read 80s-90s comics, One Piece is fucking ancient anyway, and only a faggot would read about a twink with a girl face from Hawaiii or whatever, that's not a man, that's not Wolverine, that's not Venom, that's not Punisher.

>>149835821
Because Nintendo makes shit that people actually want. They follow the money, and succeed because of it. Also, big guy + little girl is a duo that just works.

>>149833283
As usual, since creation.

>>149835930
Babies can't play vidya

>>149836049
>what's Hans
>what's Bellwether

>>149836060
>ripping off wreck it ralph
Shameless!

Also fuck Nintendblow it's for betas. Go play Mortal Kombat before they turned Mileena gay or something.

>>149836049
>One Piece is fucking ancient anyway
Still going strong
>only a faggot would read about a twink with a girl face from Hawaiii or whatever
Bro doesn't look like a faggot to me.
>that's not a man, that's not Wolverine, that's not Venom, that's not Punisher.
Zoro's your guy then.

>>149835371
>But people are still talking about the same few big two comics, same few panels, same few issues. Everything else is ignored.
We deservedly shit on IDW at every opportunity.

>>149836049
The Lamb in Zootopia was unambigously evil villains, so was the dude who wanted to marry Anna, and I didn't watch Moana. None of these were abstract "Generational trauma" or whatever.

>>149836144
Stfu edgetroon

>>149836144
>Go play Mortal Kombat before they turned Mileena gay or something.
You're like ten years too late to that party, dude.

>>149836144
>ripping off wreck it ralph
Disney did it first. Dude's just bootleg DK. Fix it Felix is just Mario but gayer.

>>149836193
Straighter than you

>>149836158
And how much evil did they actually accomplish after their villainous status was revealed to the audience?

>>149836201
I'm sorry, where are we moving these goal posts too? Wasn't the initial complaint that unambiguously evil villains weren't allowed? That antagonists have to be "aspirational" in some way? That's what Maxwell said in OP.

>>149836140
He slipped there, but to be fair, even Bellweather is almost 10 years old by now.

A good example would be Scar recently who they just wanted to display as feeling cucked into villainy.

>>149836060
>>149835821
Nintendo is a bit weird to bring up as an example of things done right, since Donkey Kong was a villain to begin with and some later Mario games were treating even fucking Bowser as Popeye's Bluto.

>>149832934 (OP)
>3 year old bait
Try harder anon

>>149833283
Yeah. Exactly.

>>149836193
>Fix-It Felix Jr.
Huh, I wonder about regular Fix-It Felix.

>>149836319
It was 8 bit.

I dunno man I kinda believe it. How do you look at something like Elio and NOT think "this was designed to be as inoffensive and unchallenging as possible"

>>149835943
Are you retarded? That image doesn't defend the comic, it simple states the dishonest way the context is framed. A lot of people don't actually read comics they just get mad about manipulated contexts.

>>149834634
>stop telling me to stop telling you about my stupid tulpa

>>149836193
Leslie Cabarga is alive and well and probably would have drawn that cabinet art based on his style for next to nothing in movie budget terms. Why do they never do cool shit like that.

>>149834606
What are those bananoid dildos?

>>149835797
>billionaire and two emperors
Evil by default.

>>149835209
Kids are stupid sponges.

>>149832934 (OP)
>The Grim Reaper would be a step too far
Max wanted Grim to have a Swedish accent like in The Seventh Seal. Wasn't Greg Eagles's fault that it ended up sounding Jamaican, but it's all on Max for rolling with it.

>>149836899
Kids just want basic things from their parents but parents now don't want to parent their kids.

>>149835943
As someone who doesn't read context, why is it dishonest?

>>149832934 (OP)
Women & bad parents caused this

>>149836885
Fag