I just can't imagine the invincible verse losing
>>149833597 (OP)it already won before the retarded Sun Disk thing
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>>149833597 (OP)Death Battle are full of LIARS.
>episode is delayed for next week
YABBA DABBA DOO
ITS OGRE
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If Hulk punches something and it shakes the entire Omniverse, why isn't his immediate vicinity destroyed? With so much power his own Universe and people living in it would gets destroyed, no? Or does he have Ki control?
>>149833673You can shake stuff without busting it.
another confirmation Light vs Columbo is going to be a separate thing
>>149833673I’m gonna shake yo tight bussy if you don’t stop asking questions, playa
>>149833597 (OP)Boros negs but sundisk would be applied and he loses.
>>149833597 (OP)If Thragg, Nolan, Conquest and Battle Beast all ganged up on Boros he would lose
Godzilla bros
It's okay to lose to Hulk
It's okay to go 2-1
2-1 is a respectable record and you should be proud of that
You can't win every fight and that's okay
So when Hulk wins please hold your heads high
Please don't be like the Asurajeets and have a meltdown spanning the whole year
Please be... Better men
>>149833687Let me introduce you to Earthquakes.
>>149833467I more meant that as a general thing rather than anyone specific. I have no real doubt that Marvel writers keep Hulk as an entity in permanent flux because it is useful to have a fallback of "Hulk wasn't angry enough, that's why he lost."
Marvel and DC also have an issue of 'multiple' canons. You have each writer's run signifying a canon of sorts, but also there is an editorial canon that very inconsistently sets boundaries for what characters are strong enough to do.
Also Jesus Christ we are so fucking cooked with having to deal with another week of this.
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GO GO GOJIRA!!!
GO GO GOJIRA!!!
>>149833843>Told car can go 120MPH>See it driving down a neighborhood at 15MPH
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>>149833597 (OP)Who challenges he Big Boss of Hell himself
>>149833673KINGtos control, he holds back
>>149833901Until he gets more offensive feats with his esoteric magic (presuming he has any) he is currently Homelander tier.
WHO ARE YOU ROOTING FOR?
WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN?
>>149833901The Big Boss of Digital Hell himself.
>>149833759Dude, they're hyping up Ultima before even acknowledging him in the rundowns or animation
It's fucking joever
>Hulk overpowering the attack that killed Gamera
Battle Beast is for Augus.
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>>149833662try not to kill yourself tonight, your BITCH tears sustain us all
>>149833947>People bring up Hulk absorbs radiation>He's not absorbing it here
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Lapau dā upala
Pṛthvī́ ākāśaḥ
Kiráṇaḥ ihá kiráṇaḥ
Agníḥ udakám
Lāka ihá kāla
Nítyam durgá
Maunám dā maunám
Vāyú īśá
Saṃkalpáḥ saṃvādam
Kaivalya karma
Īśvara pūjā
Hári hári dā́nam
Amṛ́tam auṣadhám
Adṛṣṭa dhármaḥ
Satsaṅg koṭi
Ṛtám ṛtám medhā́
>Ultima confirmed
>No Bruce Banner shown
>No VA
Haha.....he's fucked
>>149833955This but with Krasura
>research has been done on this episode for likely months now
>neither Hulk nor Godzilla have gotten anything new or noteworthy during that timeframe
>episode gets delayed by a single week
>AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE IT'S, UM.....ULTIMA WILL WIN SOMEHOW! EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THAT LOGICALLY FOLLOWS AAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE HULKXISTERS IT'S OVER!
You people are such faggots. What, do you think they need an extra week to read that one redditor's blog which literally just headcanons a bunch of shit out of thin air to make Ultima win
>>149833950Augus meant to rape Kenpachi.
Are you ready for week 5?
>>149833982He's voiced by Blythe Meilin, or something like that
Ben said it on the cast, not in the trailer
I don't understand why there's confusion over the delay, the preview they already showed a few days ago looked unfinished visual effects wise and this episode most likely has a lot of them.
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Not even worth a (You)
>>149833995Nope, I'm out. See you on the 24th
>>149834000Yeah for the Hulk not Bruce Banner
Tick-tock Ashtrannies.... I can't wait for you guys to get one shot by some flawless hax.
>>149833995No. We're going to hit critical mass by Monday, I don't think the threads can handle it.
>>149833985Occam's razor
If Ultima wasn't a big deal that trailer wouldn't be hyping it up
>>149834017Prove ChatGPT's solution works in practice
>>149834021Realistically how much worse can it get. We already have cuckoldry, homosexuality and rape
>>149834008>we get another fucking fight that has 0 Bruce in it
Hulkbros... they are against us...
>>149833673>If Hulk punches something and it shakes the entire Omniverse, why isn't his immediate vicinity destroyedYou can punch a piece of paper and brake someone's jaw without ripping the paper.
We don't exactly know the physics behind a multiversal punch.
>>149833942They're hyping him up so Hulk can put him down
>>149834012That's a Joey card, Yugi doesn't have it.
>>149834036The archetype does not exist in practice.
>another fucking week of this shit
FUCKING KILL ME NOWWWW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55VQSpnUJTg
>>149834040Well we're probably talking threads hitting cap within 4 hours in addition to the heightened volume of shitposting.
>>149833985Congrats Bruce Banner who's completely silent
You solved the equation that you just somehow knew was there to beat this damn thing (even though Ultima's defeat was far more complicated) now how are you gonna actually make and use a machine to win when the animation is likely gonna have 30 seconds left when Ultima arrives
>>149833982uh um maybe he uses Professor Hulk
They just confirmed on the cast that it's only this episode being delayed, so episode 200 will be 3 weeks instead of 4.
>>149834035>If Ultima wasn't a big dealYes? It's the only thing keeping Godzilla in this fight?
>Occam's razorSays that the most likely thing is they need more time to finish animating this shit.
What do you think Occam's razor says in this situation? Do you think they just discovered Ultima yesterday and they need more time to re research everything?
>>149834050If they wanted Hulk to beat Ultima they'd black box it
There's no way a convincing Hulk win can happen in the episode with all the runtime limitations and budgetary constraints
We're talking about a being that's hyped up because it CHOSE to lose
>>149834091DevilSLOWtemis...
>>149834091did they actually or is this cope
>>149834105He actually said he finished his work on this episode a few days ago, so it's just visual effects probably.
>>149834102>There's no way a convincing Hulk win can happen in the episodeHulk claps
>We're talking about a being That's city tier and only ever manages to threaten a single universe
>>149834052Yugi has access to every single card available since his grandpa owns a card shop.
Kingtos delayed the episode because /DBG/ won't LEARN from him
This is a conspirancy by Gokutards
>>149834123>Hulk claps>Ultima wakes up>Hulk is erased from existence
>>149834090>nerfs himself highly just to solve the equation Banner solving it while Hulk fights would be the safer option
>>149834092Anon, it's the fact that they went out of their way to silently confirm Ultima that makes it in the stronger position to win
When Goku got Heroes, Superman still got Infinite Frontier
It's blatant favoritism
>What do you think Occam's razor says in this situation?If Ultima didn't win they wouldn't feel the need to tease it like that
>>149834049And in order to shake the earth you need a meteorite level punch which destroys almost the entire surface.
Now apply that to the universe and the multiverse.
>>149834092Honestly it could be just about anything that is delaying the episode, my personal bet is that there was a hard drive failure and so the voice overs have to be rerecorded. And it is just a happy accident for the side of the animation to get some more polish (it won't be enough, DA has never had very good environmentals).
>>149834135>Hulk claps>Ultima wakes up>Hulk is fine because he's not part of the Godzilla universe, thus not part of the dream
>>149834136Where's Hulk gonna get the machine necessary?
How fast can he invent shit?
>>149834152Nah man he's fucked
They went out of their way to fuck him over with this one
Again, Megatron fans should be pissed
>>149834110Well it was the podcast.
What if they cancel Hulkzilla? Due to toxic fandom backlash or something?
>>149834168if Jimmy Neutron could create a time machine using a bunch of prehistoric shit and rocks then Hulk could do the same with modern day shit and rocks
>>149834178This isn't nearly as toxic as many fights.
The animation is going to be so funny if Hulk wins. He's just going to enter a higher dimensional plane and fucking erase it by clapping
>>149834178I'd shitpost about COAWRDlk the Flee
>>149834187Krasura mogs and his impact is felt
>>149834141God I fucking hate Godzillafaggots, half the reason I want Hulk, a character I don't even like, to win is because you are the stupidest motherfuckers alive. Tell me, anon, how does
>they're taking one more week to work on the episodeEqual to
>Ultima has a better chance of winningWhen they have already finished 99% of the work on the episode and the research specifically has likely been done for months.
>>149834165Three Hulks exist in three universes Godzilla also inhabits
>70's Marvel>vsHulk/vsSpider-Man>Destroys Marvel Universe
>>149834178Goku vs Superman 3 was more toxic. Get over yourself
>>149834186Jimmy Neutron invented a cheese ray
He mogs Banner
This actually convinces me more and more that Banner will be in the fight and be treated as Hulk's big win condition.
"Bring me more lore-carried characters! Kratos, Dragonborn, Chosen Undead, Godzilla Ultima! Come at me, you featless frauds!"
>>149834186Neutron >> Banner's IQ
>>149834210I didn't bring up the delay numb nuts
I'm talking how the first teaser got updated to include the song from Ultima which proves that yes, the red smoke was a tease for it
There's no TOBA tease either (which makes sense because it wouldn't be Hulk's win at this point)
>>149834234He unironically clears the requirements to beat Ultima at the actual level he reaches in SP.
Damn, bannerkeks coping hard
>>149834141Well I wouldn't call Infinite Frontiers blatant favoritism. Current DC canon still aligns with that.
>>149834248>didn't bring up the delay numb nutsThen why did you respond to a post that specifically talked about the delay
Why are you so fucking retarded
>>149834269It's how Godzilla got something and Hulk got nothing
Godzilla is teased Ultima
Hulk gets jack shit
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUCK I KNEW I SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE TO EARTH BY MYSELF, GODZILLA CAN ONESHOT ME... KING GHIDORAH, HELP ME!!!!
>>149834248>no TOBA>no God stealing Hulk's first win fuck
Honestly this isn't even that bad. Simon vs Kyle was way fucking worse. Who the fuck cares about either side enough to genuinely root for someone?
>>149834276Because I was responded to first
Nobody thinks the delay means Ultima is winning
Ultima is winning because the team is centering its inclusion as the big draw of the episode
>>149834301>Hulk fans are desperate for a win>Godzilla fanbase is one of the worstYou have no fucking clue man
>>149834301Simon vs Kyle was honestly just funny for the repeated mental breakdowns over Simon's GODvel feats (which are different from SHITments btw)
>>149834301Was there even a last time an episode had to be delayed like this? I totally see these threads getting even worse by the time we reach the release week
>>149834307Anon, this
>>149833985 was my first post in the thread. I wasn't talking to you. You replied to me with irrelevant nonsense. Get your fucking head checked
Since nobody actually posted it, here's the sneak peek
https://old.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/comments/1mofwib/hulk_vs_godzilla_sneak_peek/
>>149834222Being smart != Being resourceful
A man who can create machines can be stranded in a deserted island and not make machines because there's nothing to make machines from
>>149834316Most of the Godzilla fanbase doesn't give a shit about death battle.
>>149834329Kratos vs Asura took a month to come out from what I remembered which may be the reason it mindbroke the general so hard
>>149834329The delay isn't because of shitposting.
>>149834329Wasn't there a 2 month wait for Krasura. Good times especially when Kratos won
>>149834341Banner has tech already on him, like his personal forcefield or nanotech
Reminder that Ben said Hulk vs Godzilla is one of the most complicated fights they had to uncover
They translated the novel didn't they?
>>149834316It's really not that bad. This is your average Death Battle shit flinging contest. Simon vs Kyle had some real slander going on both sides where it was impossible to discuss anything.
This thread is just both sides going "oh nonono bros" over and over
>>149834333FUARK....... August 24th!?!? Hulkbros... the wait is BRUTAL...........
>>149834234Pity win academia
>>149834329Kratos vs Asura also took over a month to come out, but the last time we had an episode explicitly delayed like this was Red vs Blue back in season 7, I think.
>>149834367And how fast do you think he can convert that stuff into what he needs to beat Ultima (assuming Ultima let's him since Ultima apparently just decides to lose)?
>>149834333>delayed an extra weekMaybe the animation will actually be good this time?
>>149834357IT WAS 2 MONTHS?
no wonder why it mindbroke /dbg/, imagine of DIO vs Alucard took that long to come out
>>149834342Kaijutards keep saying this but it doesn't actually seem reflected by their actions
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>>149834367Bannertech includes wristwatch teleporters which can teleport across countries, Banner could unironically just get whatever resources he needs mid-fight.
>>149834412Dude even without the wait period 9 million universes, monster no longer, and TEACHING would do enough damage.
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Remember when we had DBX to fill the time between official episodes? Why did they cancel it?
>>149834287Well yeah, could any other Godzilla realistically compete with a modern Death Battle Hulk? Even Godzilla in Hell would lose hard.
>>149834411I think the clips shown in the preview look good, it clearly plays more to DA's actual strength with energy projection.
>>149834409Probably not long? The only really important part of the Ultima defeat was the equation, not the actual tech. Banner's nano shit and teleportation should be able to help out
>>149834452Omni-CHAD and KINGtos. Making /dbg/keks cry to this day
>>149834456Money duh
>>149834426When Ultima pops up he'll only have 30 seconds to figure that shit out (a minute if we're being generous but I doubt that since fights are usually 3 minutes long)
It's gonna be a recreation of Darkseid vs Thanos' ending
>>149834409>And how fast do you think he can convert that stuff into what he needs to beat UltimaDidn't they have like a whole day in the anime?
>>149834409As the other anon said, the time-consuming part of beating Ultima wasn't making the orthogonal diagonalizer, they did that fairly quickly, it was finding the code. The orthogonal diagonalizer itself isn't any more complicated than your standard marvel sci-fi super gadget that geniuses make mid-fight.
>>149834456the last season of that was pretty good
>>149834422>one autist represents the entire fanbaseNah you're right.
>>149834463How would Banner know to beat Ultima with the equation?
>>149834497Ultima gives it to him
I legitimately believe they won't let Hulk lose again and Godzilla is the sort of character that won't cause that much of an upset if he loses.
>>149834452>the Gentildonna victims are fighting
>>149834497>HEY BANNER YOU NEED TO SOLVE AN EQUATION IN ORDER TO BEAT ME
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORRRYYYY!
BRUCE BANNER!
VS
GODZILLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAA!
BEGIN!
>>149834124>GRANDPA, GIVE ME THE LIGHTING CARD NOW, I CALLED SOME TEENAGER A RAT FUCKER AND NOW HE WANTS TO BEAT ME TO DEATH
>>149834528up my name is Bruce Banner
giggidy Lois
>One more week of peak shitposting
LETS GOOOOO
>No Banner VA announcement means he's not in
HANDS
OFF
MY
MASTERPIECE
>>149834497The "equation" isn't even an equation, it's just finding the specific code that makes the orthogonal diagonalizer rotate archetype out of reality. It's a natural extension of figuring out that Godzilla is a higher-dimensional monster and that you can beat him by shifting his molecules out of existence.
>>149834178Hulkzilla isn't even top five most toxic debates.
>>149834504>>149834526Why is Ultima like this?
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how strong is the bakery from cookie clicker? could they beat the scp foundation?
>>149834497Didn't Ultima essentially issue the challenge unprovoked in SP? Is there a reason to assume it wouldn't here?
>>149834178They didn't cancel Kratosura and look where that led us
>>149834411No. What we saw in the sneak peak is effectively what you can expect to see, if there are any tweaks then it will be limited to the really blatant stuff and the small easy stuff. Fundamental aspects of DevilArtemis' style and current skill level mean generic/flat looking environments, direct manip mouth flaps, heavy bloom, and a difficulty with selling meaty physical clashes but pretty good energy blasts.
>>149834561bored God likes to play with the fuckers in his dreams
https://www.youtube.com/live/i3lEKUG7Q-w?t=1921s
https://www.youtube.com/live/i3lEKUG7Q-w?t=2794s
Death Battle apparently mentions Godzilla guidebooks
>Ghidorah's beams break you apart at a sub-atomic level
>Ghidorah devours stars
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>EHHHHHHH BANNER-SAMA YOU'RE USING YOUR COMIC SCIENTIST INTELLECT TO CONVINCE ME TO JUST KILL MYSELF AND LET YOU WIN BEFORE YOU TAKE MEI KAMINO'S POST-COLLEGE PUSSY AS A REWARD? AND I SHOULD JUST ERASE MY AVATAR FROM EXISTENCE SO THAT I CAN NEVER ENTER YOUR DIMENSION AGAIN, FORCED TO WATCH FROM MY HIGHER-DIMENSIONAL PRISON!? AND I'LL PERMANENTLY STAIN MY SERIES' OTHERWISE FLAWLESS TRACK RECORD OF VICTORY DUE TO MY IDIOTIC SUICIDAL TENDENCIES? WELL YABBA DABBA SKREEEEEEEONK-DOOOOOOO TAKE THIS TECH SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO KILL ME RIGHT NOW!
>3-0
>PITY WIN
>ULTIMA TOBA ULTIMA TOBA
>BANNER IN OR NOT
>TRANS RIGHTS
>MATH
I'M GOING INSANE
>>149833955This but with Yang vs Tifa
>>149834234What happens when Dragonborn shouts slowing all time to a standstill and chugging a series of potions that grants +9268169301759% increase to all stats right in front of Deku?
>>149834573>How'd you know!
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When's her long awaited debut
>>149834608Ever since Kratos won, I've always been insane
>>149834599>CONVINCEjokes on you anon he would've done it anyways
>>149834554It is uniquely toxic here because of "Oh no" guy seeding it for so long.
Hey, who wins anon, what do you rank as the top five most toxic then?
>>149834528THE KING OF MONSTERS, THE ATOMIC THRILLA
I'LL GIGGITY LOIS AND MAKE MORE SONS OF GODZILLA
>>1498346242B and Eve vs my dick
>Bruce CHADnner has to bail Hulk out to give him his first win
>>149834620Lorefags wish they were as strong as Toddhead believers who abuse their systems.
>>149834630GVS3
Kratos vs Asura
Huge gap
Simon vs Kyle
Dio vs Alucard
Idk Madara vs Aizen?
Calling it now
This was the moment before the climax
The city is destroyed, Hulk emerges (no longer World Breaker) feeling victorious but then red dust surrounds the area and Godzilla Ultima emerges
Hulk defiantly charges only to be wiped out from existence
Cue SKREEEONK
Honestly they shouldn't even count this TOBA and Ultima stuff
Pick the city level versions of the characters, the fight would be far more interesting
>Hulk looks in the mirror
>"Sniff, Sniff...please...give Hulk pity win Banner"
>>149834676I don't think anyone would disagree.
>>149834674god i need them against my dick
>>149834620Suplex him for an instant kill since he can do nothing about killcams
>>149834683ZAMN BANNER LOOKS LIKE THAT?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>149834676People have argued Ultima shouldn't be used because its the most drastic incarnation of Godzilla sans Earth or the bizarre fringe ones from obscurer media
So Ultima's inclusion here means either
A. They want to point out Hulk still wins regardless
B. They went against their own rules on compositing and Megatron fans have every right to be pissed JG1 was just snubbed
>>149834694How is Deku going to deal enough damage when the Dragonborn is wearing restoration enchanting loop boots that give him a billion HP?
>>149834630well
>>149834659 isn't me but IMO:
>Krasura>Goku vs Superman (someone punched ben)>any Bleach vs Naruto episode>Diocard>Simon vs KyleGioker has a unique place in my heart but that's only because a Jojobro tried insinuating i'd never played Persona 5 over it. There's a reason that's my favourite episode i guess
>>149834676No one actually disagrees. Hulk fans know TOBA shouldn't count and Godzilla fans aren't fond of Singular Point in the first place.
>>149834659Oh you mean Death Battle periods in particular. I thought you might have meant VS topics in particular.
Anyways mine goes with including the aftermath:
Kratosura
Kymon
Omnidock
Diocard
MadAzien
>>149834705I'm just mad because I want the radiation feedback loop ending but Ultima is explicitly is not radioactive so that's no fun.
Which DB character is best represented by this webm?
>Everything we saw is from the first minute of the fight (yes they breeze through World Breaker that quickly)
>Everything else uses Ultima instead of the Minus One model
>Tease TOBA and Ultima in the trailers to bait more discussion
>Delay it on purpose to generate more hype
Genius!
This will be one of the most watched fights
>>149834728I personally don't like Gioker much because it is very very dependent on setting equalizations.
>>149834442I’m almost genuinely impressed how shitpost-worthy the episode was and still is.
>>149834778>TOBAThey didn't
It was just Ultima
>>149834763Kyle preparing the LE against Simon.
>>149834802>Kills symbiote coolness foreverWhy did he do it?
>>149834763Gokek when he tries to lift that exact bar.
>>149834816They were already dead from Bendis retcons
>Thanos doing a funny dance after low diffing Hulk again
Since Alapu Upala was in the teaser, bets on if it will play in the fight and what for?
>>149834844>Enslaved Hulk in the future>Mentally raped and gaped him in the MCU>Countless victories against Hulk and 1 loss
>>149834763I’m sorta scared of lifting, if I go to a gym I’d probably just run after doing stretches
>>149834864Implying they will include music they don't own, a random teaser trailer is one thing, a DB is another
>>149834883>tracing Bart Simpson
>>149834864Death Battle doesn't use official music anymore but I expect some part evoking it when Ultima does form
>>149834892This panel is 20 years older than The Simpsons as a concept.
>>149834844Thanos literally got his back broken with nothing to show for it last time he ran into the Hulk in the comics.
>Ultima is used
>But Godzilla's model is still Minus One even when Archetype emerges
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>"What's that? You can't destroy infinite timelines with one casual slash? Weak."
KIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGTTTTTTOOOOOOSSSSS *sharts uncontrollably*
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Reminder Alapu Upala's singer looks like this
>>149834763SHITnic trying to do anything without the emeralds being his helicopter daddies
>>149834924@Grok is this true?
https://strawpoll.com/NoZrz7YYGZ3
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>>149834918>Destroys countless universes just from her imagination getting out of hand during a nap.
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>hard to debate
LOLOLOLOLOL OKAY
>big dinosaur shoot laser ROARRRRRR
vs
>THE FUCKING HULK
>DEBATABLE
Oh and we're going to have the owl house bitch and other boring ass fights this season so thank god for that HvG delay right?
Fuck this show has gotten terrible
>>149834924>>149834962>indian woman sings the code to beat godzilla>indian woman creates universes in gundam
This reminds me that I saw some months ago a fan-animation of Bayonetta torturing Hulk. I like Bayo, but the guy who did this has issues.
https://www.deviantart.com/cosmic-brutality/art/CB-24-Cosmic-Crucification-Bayonetta-vs-Hulk-1005265855
>>149834977I thought Godzilla was an iguana?
>>149834728I'm forseeing anything with Sonic being a massive shitfire. The only reason Bowsegg turned out fine is honestly I'm not really sure.
>>149834977>>big dinosaur shoot laser ROARRRRRR>vs>>THE FUCKING HULKUltima was confirmed
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>>149834977They are debating how respectful should Hulk's death be. And adding ending B for Hulk fans.
>>149834763Unironically Goku
>>149834990Yes. I know.
>>149834993good for you kaijufags i guess going 3-0 but this episode bores me and i dont care for both characters and probs wont for the next few eps unfortunately
>>14983476340tons-sama....
>>149834977>Multidimensional dreams within dreams lizardvs
>some jobber Batman and Spider-Man and Captain America have all beaten upYeah why is anyone debating this lol
I want Hulk to win because I love his Roller Coaster. Best Godzilla has is a gay zipline. Might fall asleep in the middle of it.
>>149833995I'm tired boss, I can't take it...
>>149834977It honestly is weird, cause once they decide on which version of Hulk and Godzilla, the answer should be clear cut. Every matchup is uneven.
Unless this really is TOBA vs. IT autism.
>>149833673>why isn't his immediate vicinity destroyed? With so much powerhol up. you only need the natural frequencies. the hulk isn't that strong
>>149835015The most debatable and discussed version of this match is Ultima vs standard Hulk, it will probably be that.
>>149834987oh yeah sonic MUs too but i wont chalk that up to entirely the sonic community. Some people here have a major issue with that franchise that only a therapist can unearth.
>>149833673Marvel has shit writers.
>>149835029There's no debate there unless they really want the stupid Banner win.
>>149835038The entire past 4 weeks of these threads have been debating that match. You can disagree with it but it definitely is debatable.
>>149835011You wot mate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pejg3UiTSps A ride so cool, they're making a sequel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40uWuqOnSkM
>>149835029Without TOBA Hulk even with all the wank he's gotten since Immortal Hulk started has no chance of beating Ultima.
>>149835010>Batman and Spider-Man and Captain AmericaAll of those characters can destroy infinite multidimensional dreams beyond dreams
>>149835057>Batman and Spider-Man I believe it
>CapNo chance.
>>149834993“SKREEOOOOONNKK” (You are a Monster no longer.)
How will Yugi be able to counter this technique from Ash?
I think all of us can agree that "̴̛̬̆̋G̷̨̼̯͈Ỳ̴̧̧͍̖E̴̡̡̛̪Ả̸͔̳͚̳Ȩ̶̛̬͕̖H̴̨̧̼̯G̶͒̊!̸̛̟̰͔!̶̢̧̢̢!̷̀̽̕"
>>149834763Might Guy killed himself killing All Might didn't he?
>*Cough Cough* "Superman strong"
>"I'm not Superman you ape. I'm Homelander!"
>>149835100>his dick is small
>>149833673If JOBtima is gorillaversal why did he get beat by a building level mech? If true form JOBtima is nigh omnipotent why doesn’t he just leave his cuck cage dimension and destroy everything himself?
>>149834763Wasn't Gray's best attack a suicide move?
>>149835128It was actually an invincible robot specifically written to kill Godzilla that still died a billion times.
>>149835083Believe it or not this is Goku (Near Death) (Starving).
>>149835128no that was his avatar being beaten, without all the archetype bullshit he'd be pretty weak
>>149835107Bobbeh’s most powerful warcry
https://youtu.be/JjLp8doM87o?t=79
>>149833964They don’t want to make it too obvious that Hulk RAPES BITCHzilla.
>>149835128>why did he get beat by a building level mech?Literally 'because funni'.
Do you think that Ultima can win through Reality Manipulation or do I just not know Ultima's powerset? Because Hulk hasn't really demonstrated resistance to reality manipulation (from what I know off the top of my head) asides from his battle with Onslaught +Franklin Richards+ Nate Grey, In which he's implied to brute force through reality manip but Onslaught does fuck all with Franklin's powers throughout his run. He's resisted stuff from Strange and The Sentry but idk how that would compare to Ultima. Feel free to correct me tho.
Now that we've established that Hulk wins, any hopes for episode 200?
Why can't we just have normal Godzilla vs Hulk? These "characters" that are niggerversal aren't Hulk or Zilla, but bloated retarded brainrots.
Otto is a KINGtos detractor on Twitter. He lost my respect.
>>149834763Wtf man why did you post that
>>149835174Shin Godzilla has super adapting powers so it can likely just adapt to Hulk and make its Reality Warping effect Hulk.
Remember when they said Wally West vs Archie Sonic was debatable but everyone (including the G1 blog) said it was a clear cut verdict once you take into account everything?
Ultima wins because Hulk would lose more often than Banner would be able to
>Figure out Ultima's weakness
>Understand it and solve the equation
>Create a device to banish Ultima for good
Bruce Banner
VS
a regular unmutated marine iguana
Who wins?
>>149835192This is a death battle thread. Minor injuries shouldn't bother you.
>>149835179It is normal Hulk
They haven't confirmed TOBA (and they shouldn't, TOBA possessing Hulk is outside help)
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>One option, though it was the one I most wanted to avoid, was to use the Orthogonal Diagonalizer that had fallen into the hands of Yū Arikawa to create a new “machine assembled from archetypes” from the thick red dust that had gathered around Godzilla.
>As for where those parameters came from, they were also embedded in the “song.” Having realized that it was impossible to eliminate the archetype, Perro 2 attempted to defeat Godzilla by “enhancing” JJ.
>In other words, it was a plan to settle the battle through physical combat rather than super-chemical means, which was somewhat outside my style. However, if it were possible to defeat the singularity through physical combat, my workload would undoubtedly be reduced, and I would have the opportunity to destroy the singularity myself.
>One reason is that I might not need to search for the parameters to decompose all the archetype molecules. Because my origin is code, I have a rigid nature that insists on providing a precise answer to a precise specification.
>However, if those conditions can be relaxed... >The goal is to temporarily remove the singularity from this universe, not to completely erase all archetypes. If it is acceptable to leave behind a trace of the blue-green history rather than the red dust, the candidates for parameters that meet the conditions would expand.
>Even if some archetypes remain in this world, once the singularity is separated from this dimension, the production of new archetypes will become difficult. Archetypes will gradually decompose, mix with the molecules of this world, and break down into miraculous molecules that are difficult to detect. By the time radioactive atoms reach their half-life, their numbers will have decreased by half.
>In other words, it was a plan to settle the battle through physical combat rather than super-chemical means
>>149834977Bro whut? Who fucking cares, just give us the episode. We do the debating after we see it. I just want to see whos next.
>>149835210>one version of the american godzilla is a marine iguana>spergs cling to this for some reasonHe was a dinosaur in 99.9% of the other iterations.
>>149835083This happens to adult Goku too.
>>149835195Or Ultima loses because Hulk beats the shit out of puny gods that do everything Ultima does and more
>>149834528FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE SEAS
IS THE KING OF THE MONSTERS
I'LL CHEW YOU UP HULK
THIS BULK'S GETTING BONKED
I'LL RUN WITH RODAN, MOTHA, AND THE HOMIES, FOR A SOCIAL PRIMATE YOU SURE SEEM LONELY!
YOUR ONLY FRIENDS ARE THE VOICES ON YOUR HEAD
THAT CRINGE WHEN YOU RETURN TO YOUR LAME NERD SELF!
YOU'RE A CIRCUMCISED SIMP I'M A LIZARD OF THUNDER!
WHEN I'M CRUSHING ON A GIRL IT MEANS THE FOOT SHE COMES UNDER!!!
YOU'RE PATHETIC WITH THE AVENGERS ENDURING THEIR ABUSE
GETTING CHAIN UP AND SENT OUT TO THE PLANET OF THE KEKS
I CAN TAKE A WHOLE CITY LIKE TOKYO BAY!
YOU GET GAPED BY TONY'S TOYS LIKE "HERE COMES THE AIRPLANE!"
HOW DID FLOPPING IN YOUR ONLY MOVIE FEEL?
YOU'RE LIKE SUPERMAN CUS' THIS BEAT DOWN IS REAL
I'LL EAT YOUR GAMMA SHIT LIKE A BENTO LID
AND MAKE CLOWN OUT OF YOU LIKE THE MCU DID
>>149835029>The most debatable and discussed version of this match is Ultima vs standard HulkMultiversal vs city level, ok
>inb4. B-BUT HE DESTROYED [insert vsbw brain damage] that one time!!!Is that consistent?
Hulkbros it is okay to be in the Ozone layer permanently. Goku is up there to keep him company!
>>149835213TOBA would be a TOAA win and a Hulk loss
Can your HERO reach the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop by only licking?
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HULKBROS NOT LIKE THIS
DB IS A FRAUD
>>149834983To be fair that is pretty good gore.
>>149835278Your arms don't go back like that?
>>149835174It's said (and shown) that Archetype just passively rewrites fundamental aspects of the universe to better suit Godzilla, which is also why kaiju die when they lose contact with it. When actively used, they do a bunch of other cray stuff.
>>149835230>do everything Ultima does and more.....like?
>>149835276Me and the bros eating avocados
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>>149835304I dunno. What do you think Ultima is capable of doing?
>>149835276Me eating the green pussy of that tomboy hulk some anon posted a while ago
>>149835276>Mark killed the Maestro He's not the hero of today, but also the hero of an imperfect future. You just gotta love Invincible
Are there any DB character that could survive these attacks?
>>149835287And to be fair, Death Battle has also been mean-spirited to both, Hulk and Bayonetta.
>>149835316FUARK. LARGE PLANET SIZED HANDS, GODZILLA RUN!!
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>SKREEEEOOOOOONNKK!!! (We did it, Anguirus… we beat the Incredible Hulk…)
>BWOOOOOOOOOOW!!! (Goji, that was the Amazing Bulk.)
>>149835289... the cuck, overhyped, fraud and underserving win contests
>Banner tries to solve the equation
>Gets blasted by the amnesia beam
>Forgets why he was angry
>Dies
>>149834412Even without the wait period that episode was retarded. MFTL speed for holding your hands in front of your face will never not be stupid.
>>149835334>SKREEEEOOOOOONNKK!?!?!?!?!??!?! (W-Were is hulk then, anguirus???)>...BWOOOOOOOOOOW (Bulk killed him)
>>149835323is there any character that can survive this attack?
>>149835323This movie is such a dog shit.
>>149835323This was just the same ice even KINGtos couldn't break through
>W-were
ESLzilla the WEAK..
>>149835346Didn't they scale Kratos via primordials for speed?
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>CLASH of two RADIOACTIVE TITANS that leave entire CITIES flattened in their wake!
>”Uhh, ackshually, this guy would just solve a math equation and win!”
This is why normies will never respect powerscaling
>>149835342>Amnesia RayThat's not how Snowgoji works
The amnesia only applies to when characters return to their home dimension
>>149835316Cool
Proof Hulk scales to that?
Proof Hulk can hit Ultima directly since its true form doesn't interact on the same plane Hulk is at?
>>149835289... Greenkittens
>>149835378You really expect a giant mutant lizard to know perfect English?
>Kratobble the stronkest der izzle. Bounkless in eber wibble. Fikshun incaboodle. My axel flomps mownteens, my speeb braks spownd, my stronk liftz univoises.
Rule of thumb
>Ultima shows up in the last minute or less
Godzilla wins
>Ultima shows up in the midpoint or the majority of the fight IS Ultima vs Hulk
Hulk has a chance
>>149835346It will never not be funny having that be compared to a guy traveling across the universe in a few minutes while dodging universe-crossing lasers. The absolute dissonance between actual feats and flimsy statements/chain-scaling is unmatched.
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>>149833947>rings around the atomic breathoh they absolutely are using ultima
>>149835289don't tempt me
>>149835436That's his spiral ray, you dork
>>149835409>Proof Hulk scales to that?That's Eternity's sibling
Hulk has already been scaled above Eternity by DB themselves
>Proof Hulk can hit Ultima directly since its true form doesn't interact on the same plane HulkHulk in base form has already been scaled to vibrating infinite dimensions or he punches through dimensions or just destroys the avatar since Ultima's true form is apparently featless and inert
>>149835465if they scaled hax resistances to dudes you're superior to in power then GR would've won
So do you guys think what was shown was only the first minute or midpoint of the fight?
If it's being delayed I can see this go as long as Bowser vs Eggman
MAYBE Kratos vs Asura except it's actually mostly fighting
I LOVE COMIC SCALING!!! I LOVE IGNORING THAT MY HERO GETS BEATEN BY STREET HEROES ON THE REGULAR AND THAT I CAN JUST CHERRY PICK THEIR MOST POWERFUL FEATS FROM EVERY RUN ACROSS TIME!!!
>>149835475You're right Anon. I'm you.
>>149835487Hulk with the cars is early on
the first preview is the midpoint
the beam clash is also the midpoint
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>>149835399No, they scaled him killing Helios as a “speed” feat (while lining up that with a scene of Kratos slowly shuffling towards a crippled Helios). They only brought up the Primordials to make a calculation for said “feat”, saying both were “consistent” to each other without any explanations why.
>>149835478GR should've won, it's just that Spawn is cooler
Godzilla and Hulk are two huge green shitting babies with awful movies and comics they both deserve to lose
>>149835493>https://youtu.be/PmFQWlJ_IZA
>>149835323>Kicks out at 2.9999999999999
That's the thing, isn't it? It's easy to think that we never see Kratos do anything that matches Asura, but we do: Helios' speed matches Chakravartin, and Kratos outsped him; Atlas is strong enough to lift all of reality, and Kratos overpowered him; Cronos defeated the creator of the universe in a one-on-one fight, same as Asura, and Kratos killed Cronos. Add in the clear numerical comparison of Chakravartin, Ragnarök, and Yggdrasil, and Kratos takes the edge in power.
>>149835425Destructor Asura showed up in the last minute, look what happened to him
>>149835530all that chink amp
>>149835536Top tier gaslighting, not even the most toxic of my exes could pull something like this with a straight face
>>149835538so did Kratos with the Blade of Olympus
>>149835558That isn't a form
Super Saiyan Bardock also showed up in the last minute too, seems like a trend with DA's recent work
>>149834528>>149835239I’M THE STRONGEST THERE IS, THE INCREDIBLE HULK
A GREET GREAT GREEN GAMMA POWERED GIANT
UNLIKE A CERTAIN SEA MONSTER I’M ENTIRELY SELF-RELAINT
YOU MUST HAVE BRAIN CANCER FROM ALL THE RADS IN YOUR GIZZARD
IF YOU THINK IM GONNA LOSE TO A BIG ASS MUTANT LIZARD!
SO HOW ABOUT YOU MEANDER BACK TO YOUR WATER SPRAYING RECEPTACLES,
BECAUSE I’M A TOP SELLING HERO AND NOT A BUNCH OF WORTHLESS SCALY SPECTACLES!
HAVING TO CHUG OUT ANIME AND MOVIES TO BUILD BACK UP YOUR RAPPORT
STIL STUCK RELYING ON FUCKING MIKU AND MOTHRA FOR GODAMN MORAL SUPPORT!
ALL MY RECENT COMICS ARE TOP-TIER, RIVETING, AND HYPED UP BEST SELLERS
YOU’VE GOT 2 GOOD FOREIGN MOVIES
AND JAIL IN A SHITTY CGI HOLLYWOOD AND ANIME CELLAR!
SO DONT TRY TO DISS THE STRONGEST AVENGER IN SOME SHITTY MONSTER BASH
OR YOU’LL END UP LIKE THE REST
IN THE DUST AFTER ONE "HULK SMASH!"
>>149835572I broke Kratos...
>>149835595doctor here. i can confirm. i won't disclose any further
>>149835605>I LOVE CHILDREN I LOVE CHILDREN I LOVE CHILDRENuhhh okay docgreen? you didn't have to say that
>>149835538Still pissed me off how badly they messed up the size of Destructor Asura when they got TTGL’s size correct. Kratos shouldn’t even be a speck of dust against Asura’s head. You can compare this to Yasha kicking the Brahmastra’s head (which Asura himself was bigger than) and you can’t even see him, only the massive Mantra aura he was exerting. It’s insane to have a planet dwarfing sized being reduced to barely mountain size.
>>149835612???? Why did he say that???
Honestly I think Godzilla will win for a basic reason
>Ganon struggled heavily against Drac, did no damage and got no diffed
>Megatron struggled heavily against Frieza, got lucky with one sneak attack but otherwise got no diffed
>Bardock struggled heavily against Omni Man, did no damage and got no diffed
>Asura struggled heavily against Kratos you get the idea
You can already see from the preview Hulk is struggling, sweating, he's tossing cars at Godzilla and Godzilla is attacking and fighting with casual and *supreme* ease. Hulk also seems more damaged than Godzilla up to their big beam clash thing that's obviously a transition for Godzilla to just go into a new form to continue dunking on Hulk.
DA just doesn't know how to animate episodes that aren't one sided stomps. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the research and picked him because how he does matchups inherently disfavors characters like Hulk who take major beatings while Godzilla is more a force of nature
>>149835536>Helios' speed matches ChakravartinKWAB
>>149835556For me it was this
>Atlas is strong enough to lift all of reality, and Kratos overpowered himWHEN THE FUCK DID HAPPEN?
>>149835667The GOW games can't capture everyone's power. Even the novel and cookbook is a lowballed version for us to process. If his true power to be unleashed all of fiction would get solod
>>149835704Atlas holding up the world and Kratos fighting him
HULK SAY TRANS RIGHTS!!! GODZILLA NO HIT WOMAN!!!
>>149835733why would Hulk say that?
>>149835720>Atlas holding up the world and Kratos fighting himFighting how? Atlas just held him between his fingers before Kratos barely managed to push the fingers back and tried to get Atlas to spare him.
I feel like Kratos vs Asura is some kind of conspiracy to farm something. I don't think anything could farm this much salt, not even GVS4
>>149835759Didn't the novelazation say he was able to hold off 2 hands of Atlas squishing him?
>>149835497Busting out World Breaker that early seems kind of weird but then again Super Silver had to be used early
>>149835616Apples and oranges
Rendering huge shit is harder
>>149833597 (OP)>OPM gets fed to Marvel>OPM gets fed to Toonforce>Next episodes are either OPM gets fed to Invincible (Boros vs Battle Beast) or OPM gets fed to Dragon Ball (Cosmic Fear Garou vs Cell)Brutal, and their only win is against another ONE character too
So let me get this STRAIGHT... Godzilla Ultima basically has NOTHING in common with the regular Godzilla, beyond looking VAGUELY Godzilla shaped (and even then it's a generic monster shape that could might as well be fucking Reptar), had godlike hax powers... needs to be defeated by bullshit science, and NOBODY has a problem with it? Is Godzilla the ultimate I CLAPPED character? So long as it kind of looks like and makes Godzilla sounds it's perfectly OK for Godzilla fans?
>>149835805>Rendering huge shit is harderThen why even bother if you can’t even get a fraction of it right? That scene wasn’t Kratos fighting Destructor Asura but mini Cronos 2.0
>>149835809Garou rapes Cell if they use Serious Punch squared
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>>149835788Enraged Immortal made Omni Man bleed so Death Battle would make him around planetary. Raditz was a MEGA SHITTER even by Frieza Force standards and about 6 or 7 times weaker than they made King Veggie and Bardock. Honest Abe would rip Raditz in half
>>149835790The novel makes Kratos look far worse, he nearly passes out against Atlas' fingers
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>>149835790>Didn't the novelization say he was able to hold off 2 hands of Atlas squishing him?No? It was the same as the game.
>>149835830...............
Honestly, a part of me wonders if including Ultima is pointing to Godzilla losing. Like, thinking about all the potentially controversial 'is this even normal to include' power-ups in the recent episodes
>SS Bardock
>Life Equation Kyle
>Infinity Gauntlet Thanos
>Oni Akuma (he's a what if character in canon)
>IF Ryoko
All those guys lost, meanwhile, characters who had certain things excluded but would have completely turned the match around if they were
>Japanese Megatron in any form (not even Japanese scaling for Marvel Galvatron)
>Cates Venom upgrades
>Pretty much any random cosmic form every character gets in comics at one point
>God-tier Johnny Cage
>>149835884I mean this is just G1 Japanese dub Megatron in a powered-up form
>>149835809>Only win of her verse Yup Yup, TatsuDIVA is carrying hard!
>>149835881>>149835883Damn lol. I guess it was retarded chain scaling like we never SEE Kratos kill Atlas but he could.
>>149835904same creator fights don't count
>>149835704>>Atlas is strong enough to lift all of reality>WHEN THE FUCK DID HAPPEN?in a Percy Jackson book
>>149835901No I meant like it's a blatant double standard that Ultima is used but not JG1 Megatron
>>149835931I'm not familiar with Megatron. Is he a "mainline" incarnation like Ultima is?
>>149835924PJO was just the world sky though.
>>149835952he appeared in multiple manga and even a recent one
I wonder if OC or general creators ever make shit with powerscaling in mind.
>>149835952I mean, just like Godzilla there's no 'mainline' version of Transformers. Hell, Godzilla at least has the original movie as the 'main' version (arguably the Showa era as a whole is this)
With Transformers, unless you straight up go for 'Toy Bio only' Megatron, you still have to chose between Sunbow, Japanese Dub of Sunbow (and everything tied into it), Marvel US and Marvel UK. And hell, if IDW gets the 'close enough' label, then honestly pretty much everything from the Neo G1 era should as well (basically everything after Prime)
>>149835888Don't forget
>Alien X>GER>House of M WandaThe only one I can think of recently that didn't fit that mold was God Spawn but it wasn't actually necessary to win and was only put in for a cooler animation while Ultima is literally the only thing Godzilla has
>>149835871>Enraged Immortal made Omni Man bleed so Death Battle would make him around planetary.Raditz is planetary.
>>149835788Post Immortal destroying the moon because he needs to do more than that to hurt Raditz
>>149835952Utrom Shredder is also mainline to Shredders but we don't composite him because he's far too different
>>149836036Those weren't DA animations
>>149836028it's pretty funny that with every new Transformers episode excluding Unicron they use less and less in the composite, fucking Starscream got JG1 despite him getting nothing from that besides proof his possession working on organic beings
>>149835921>I guess it was retarded chain scaling like we never SEE Kratos kill Atlas but he couldIt’s even worse than this because even by DB’s retardation, you can make excuses for Kratos dodging universe crossing lasers (even though they make no sense) but Atlas had been shown nearly crushing Kratos to red paste and the ONLY reason why Kratos lived was because Atlas spared him after being convinced of Kratos wanting to kill Zeus.
>>149836090What does that have to do with anything
>>149836118Oh sorry I mistook your reply to something else
>>149835788Funny matchup but raditz has ki which just gives him the win desu
>>149835788>Injured Omni-Man Immortal solos all of Dragon Ball
>>149836100Even then that WASN'T Starscream in Kiss Players
Seekers amirite
>>149836116to be fair that was pre-GOW 1 Kratos before he got that Pandora's Box boost
Why are gays so attracted to beards?
>>149835966yeah but pjo's cosmology is wonky. it's whatever humans currently believe
>>149836036Alien X and GER are less controversial since they are just parts of a characters arsenal that happen to overshadow everything else.
Wanda in full Bendis mode is a little closer to the rest through.
In terms of exclusions, there's Shroedinger Alucard, but that could just be due to clashing with Alucard's more iconic powerset.
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>>149836130I prefer this one.
>>149836167It's a symbol of strong men like Kratos
>>149836167do they really?
lmao, beards are shit. moustaches are where it is at
>>149836100Honestly, Starscream got really disrespected in his episode. They didn't even actually look at anything he could do outside of Null Rays and Ghost form and just gave him the stats of an F-15.
>>149835888Ben said the debate was difficult
They're not adding Ultima with the mentality that it needs to lose to be added
>>149836167Whats hard to understand about that? Beards are manly
>>149836206>gave him the stats of an F-15.That's how early Death Battle worked
They gave Lion-O the senses of an actual cat and most of Riptor's bio was about what we knew (at the time) about real velociraptors
Also, don't bios normally give Transformers stats based on their alt modes
>>149836184>Alien X and GER are less controversial since they are just parts of a characters arsenal that happen to overshadow everything else.That's true but you're also describing Ultima to every other Godzilla incarnation
>>149836130Yeah ki worked out well for Goku, Vegeta, and Bardock
>>149836192No, it was Legion
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Legion_(KP)
>>149836236Except Ultima is a separate incarnation
Alien X is a part of Ben's Omnitrix arsenal not a distinct entity
>>149836251>Yeah ki worked out well for Goku, Vegeta, and Bardockwithout ki, Goku and Bardock become jobbers.
>>149836153The finger crushing scene was during GOW 2 though. The reason why Kratos needed Atlas’s help was to find where the Fates were and kill Zeus.
>>149836076Post Raditz destroying a moon
>>149836254No, Starscream did posses a little girl once.
>>149835888>God-tier Johnny CageIt doesn't work on mortals
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>>149835809They should give Genos a pity win against Raiden
>>149836293>little girl>51 yo hagbruva...
>>149835888>Cates Venom upgradesApparently research was done BEFORE Cates hand jobs occurred but then again Ultraguy HATES cosmic scaling Venom
>>149833597 (OP)>solos Dragon Ball
>>149836251Am i tripping or did goku and vegeta fight against characters without means of manipulating energy?
>>149836305Thats a computer.
>>149836294It seemed (and treated by the narrative) like a more general power boost. "It only works on gods" was just them trying to keep MK on more manageble stats.
Wonder if the reason we haven't gotten an MK episode in a while is because they don't wanna open the pandora's box that is Titan scaling. And considering how lax DB has been with chainscaling and statements, it would be completely within their rules to include.
Why do you give the immortal random battles? None of those battles make sense.
>>149833955This but Dio vs Alucard
>>149836338CUNTputa perhaps, innit?
>>149836363The immortal vs mr incredible
>>149836066He would be a couple times moon level in Death Battle. If they made Immortal 1/15th what they made Nolan he'd still be stronger than Raditz
>>149836363The Immortal vs Composite Freddy Mercury
>>149836286He tanks blasts that casually destroy the moon in seconds, that's why I asked for immortal destroying the moon. All he really has to do to hurt immortal is be above street level
>>149836377No, its a humanoid robot housing Teletraan 15.
Presence of robot genitalia (or the absence of) is not expanded on.
>>149836380That's mentally retarded and also unfair.
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DB match ups with this feel?
What's stopping Ultima from just giving Banner an F and saying he forgot to show his work when solving the equation?
>>149836357We got a glimpse of MK chain scaling with Shao Kahn vs Akuma but if anything MK's setting is fucking bizarre in terms of power
You have a bunch of gods (two storm ones even), dimensional conquerors, etc yet the speed feats for the longest time were pitiful with the speedster not doing anything too impressive, calculatable on screen damage reached small town level at most, PIS jobbing everywhere, etc yet you also have lore shit that opens all sorts of worm cans
The cast simultaneously became weaker and stronger somehow
Also we still don't know what a realm even is
>>149836400>Teletraan 15>15uh. it was a 15...
let's not dwell more into this
you read nothing
>>149836399Damn I had no idea Piccolo made a crater this size when he blasted Raditz
>>149836357>It seemed (and treated by the narrative) like a more general power boostIt's both, it's like having a fire pokemon against a plant one.
>>149835664How is Hulk the one struggling when he no sold the atomic breath and is overpowering the red spiral ray?
>brooo he threw cars!!!Do you literally not know who Hulk is?
>>149836430Today anon learns about ki control
>>149836416I thought realms were planets or vast regions of them. Wouldn't make much sense otherwise if Shao Kahn wanted to merge them with Outworld
>>149836429Anyway, he possesses a human woman named Atari afterwards.
>>149836449There is no such thing as Ki control
>>149836404Kratos vs Asura
>>149836416>>149836450They are parallel dimensions.
>>149836416I just think you shouldn't scale this kind of wizard shit for any series.
But all I'm saying is, considering everything else DB accepted, if they draw the line at Multiversal+Infinite speed Stryker then they're being hypocritical.
>>149836469But like D'Vorah's realm is apparently an "island realm"
When the realms merge where does the water go?
>>149835788I like having two brothers of the protagonists fighting each other.
>>149836449Are you talking about actual Ki Control, or the cope powerscaler Ki Control?
>>149836403Who is it unfair too? Bob? Bob got new scaling that puts him above this
>>149836458>The anon admits that the result of this fight is a nonsense fanfiction.
>>149836465>Refuses to acknowledge a key (heh) thing in the series Dragon BallAh. So a disingenuous hack, just like Death Battle. Without key control Raditz vs Goku/Piccolo would've been destroying Earth's surface.
Goku's ki control was slipping when he became a SSG and was shaking the universe when he was fighting Beerus.
>>149836498The nonsense fan fiction is about as canon as super
>>149836488It becomes part of Outworld's ocean. Or something.
>>149836492Actual ki control that prevents characters from simply blowing up planets they're fighting on.
>>149836488because at that time it was already merged with Outworld.
>When the realms merge where does the water go?Don't try to find logic in it, it doesn't have any.
>>149836450If Earthrealm literally just Earth does that mean there's NOTHING else in the universe?
Is there no sapient life on other planet Raiden can recruit?
>>149836523Yes, because they don't fire planet busters unless they can aim it in a way where it doesn't hit the planet (Vegeta having to narrow the final flash, or Goku aiming the Kamehameha up)
>>149836510You had to reach all the way into Super, and Goku being unable to handle God Powah because you know I'm right baby.
DBZ characters can blow shit up with a lot of Ki because they feel like expending a lot of Ki. But if you flooded the entire atmosphere with water it would still be water mmmmkay? It's in the amount and not the potency. Thank you for listening
>>149836469>They are parallel dimensionsweaker than Bleach then :)
>>149836479>Multiversal+Infinite speed StrykerStryker's my fuckin GOAT i'll accept this.
>>149836450I think Tobias once said they were at least bigger than the solar system.
>>149836551It's never come up outside of cameos by xenomorphs and predators, right? IIRC Kratos, Spawn and Freddy came from their own realms
>>149836551No, theres other planets. They just don't matter because aliens in MK is going too far.
>>149836566So when are you going to get over this?
Cal Kestis vs Sparrow
Star Wars vs Fable
who wins?
>>149836558No I did not have to 'reach'. I plainly used the first big fight at the start of Z. I didn't read the rest of your post because I know you're a disingenuous fella.
>>149836541>damage control out of NOWHERE
>>149833597 (OP)Hulk vs. Godzilla? Godzilla wins because of rape scaling. Bruce Banner (and Hulk) have been raped multiple times, Godzilla never got sexually assaulted at all. Godzilla wins because of this
>>149836597It's my headcanon (academic dissertation) from when I was eight or nine
>>149836583Kratos got teleported from the GOW world after 3
>>149836592>no argumentok, I won this.
>>149836623>It's my headcanon (academic dissertation) from when I was eight or nineyou were so cute back then, what the fuck happened?
>>149836638I grew a mustache when I was 12 and it was all downhill from there doc
>multiple times characters get worried when a villain or hero charges an attack that could destroy the planet (meaning that every attack in the fight before couldn't)
>the times those planet busters actually hit someone they completely devastate them
>one of the top tier villains whole deal is using the energy of the planet to fight and it requires powering up into god forms to deal with even basic application of this power
>'but no, everyone can casually tank 50 billion planets exploding'
*ARRIVES in your setting*'
>>149836674*bisects you with a car door*
>>149836674>destroys themAnywho
>>149836665But enough about DC and Marvel comics
>>149836674KINGtos victims. Only omni-man could give him a challenge
>>149836570Yes, but think about it.
Stryker, an NYPD cop, can arrest literally every One Piece pirate in 0.00000001 seconds.
That's what it gets you if Kratoswank logic is accepted.
>>149836650The Friezster needs to disrupt a planetary core to blow it up, meanwhile Nolan casually busted one third of the crust and mantle of a planet 14 times the size of Earth with a Roche Limit Factor and five PERFECTLY SPHERICAL moons with JUST the Smart Atoms on his knuckles. Omni Man has SEVEN OCTILLION Smart Atoms
>>149836674Babies with that hag Thula.
>>149836656but mustaches are RAD
>>149836701https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kurtis_Stryker_(Second_Timeline)
No..?
The Kratos in MK is a different Kratos.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kratos_(Mortal_Kombat)
>>149836690In your FUARKING dreams.
>>149836650>King Cold, Freeza's father, made the Viltrumite plan decades before but with 100% success.
>>149836701fuck yeah that's my boy
the ONLY mk9 character that wasn't a guest to not return, btw. I'm so fucking mad. you could work him so well in the new Era but chances are he's going to hell with the 3D era characters.
>>149836708.... You mean with the help of a laser and Mark/Thad right?
>>149836690If Nolan absolutely slaughtered Super Saiyan Bardock then his monkey troop could do absolutely nothing about him + Thula and Lucan
>>149836726>>149836739Sorry, Death Battle fanfiction doesn't stop facts anon.
Each of them bad boys.. and one girl are planet busters by themselves. They don't need the help of a space laser gun or two other members of their race flying at the same speed and same time or whatever to blow up planets.
>>149836674Can Viltrumites resist mind control? If not any sufficiently powerful Mutie will fodderize them
>>149836674>turns them into quincies>conquers soul society and invincible verse>stomps spawn
>>149836718>The Kratos in MK is a different Kratos>MK Kratos is scaled more in line with game Kratos than VSBW’s versionHoly fucking sad.
>>149836737Are you stupid? I left the core out and said one third.
>>149836718VSBW is just being biased, since the logic that gets pretty much every rando in MK to Multiversal is the same kinda logic/wank that is used for Kratos.
>>149836754Smart Atom synapses are immune to telepathy according to Kirkman's Guide to the Invincible Universe chapter 100 guidebook
>>149836753Death Battle only deals in facts. Your pathetic hooting hollering monkey mantra won't avail you of the inevitable outcome.
>>149836753...and they instantly die if they bust the planet, so it's useless.
>>149836665Freeza survived having a planet explode in his face when it was already split in two.
>>149836708You forgot about Planet Vegeta
https://youtu.be/rXEkzfgnM74?si=iIjXiCeK_Hfd6gHw
>>149836755>he's a bleachfag
>>149836718>The Kratos in MK is a different Kratos.that's just VSBW retardation
>>149836777>Death Battle only deals in facts
>>149836777Canon, 9 million universes lowballed
>posts early season episode
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>>149836777>Death Battle only deals in facts.
>>149836783Pathetic. You can see lava erupting from the inside of the planet, meaning the planet was self destructing via chain reaction just like Namek and just like Earth in Super!! Frieza is sub planetary!
>>149836784>invinciblefag calling anyone else a faglol
>>149836779Wouldn't need too, output an energy wave capable of destroying a planet into a Viltrumite's face and they'd die. Wouldn't even harm the planet much, cause.. KI CONTROL. Yep. Sorry Death Battle lied to you bud.
>>149836753Except that wasn't them charging up all their ki into a planet busting blast, that was them RAMMING their INDESTRUCTIBLE VILTRVMITE bodies into a planet 14 times bigger than earth and SHATTERING it. They don't need some gay little ranged DPS bullshit, they just FLYING BRICK'D it.
>>149836826so it was a durability feat and not a strength feat?
>>149833662https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bardock_(Toei)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Omni-Man_(Image_Comics)
How is Death Battle worse at power scaling than vsbw?
>>149836832Most retarded post I have ever read in my life btw.
>>149836826It's so freaky that Thragg ripped Mark and Nolan apart with his bare hands considering what they did
>>149836826>waves hand>blows up three planetsTime for Thragg to KNEEL TO THE KINGGGG
>>149836822So they controlled it so it's too weak to, and now it can't harm them
When an attack is ACTUALLY planet busting in Dragon Ball, they have to steer it away from the planet to avoid the whole thing getting destroyed as collateral damage. Otherwise it's just too weak.
>>149836809This episode was accurate. They kind of highballed Asura though.
>>149836854>Omni Man casually stronger than someone 50x King Bejituh >Thragg ripped Omni Man in half with his bare fucking hands Outlook... Not so good, monkeybros...
>>149836809>GreektosThat would have made the fight significantly better.
>>149836854https://youtu.be/a97ppiBHyJg?si=ffsz3HWreR5rMNpE
>>149836854I cannot even convey to you how quickly Thragg would rip that monkey apart if he EVER got his hands on him. You do not understand the disparity in strength and durability between saiyans and viltrumites. If King Vegeta stayed WAY the fuck back and just tried to blast him he might have a chance, but the SECOND that monkey even tries to get into punching range it's over. Thragg tears other viltrumites apart like WET TISSUE PAPER.
>>149836854Thragg was never the Emperor
Just the Grand Regent
>>149836876>So they controlled it so it's too weak to, and now it can't harm themLiteral retardation. I accept your concession Invincible fag
>>149836822don't be so sure. scenes like the Final Flash and Galick Gun don't make sense if you assume Veggita could have made it any size
>>149835664Not a DA fight but Darth Vader decimated through Obito's defenses and still lost
>>149836854Post King Vegeta's Sun Disk and there will be an end to the horror
>>149836878>They kind of highballed Asura thoughThey did but compared to Kratos, who was essentially featless, you could somewhat believe it with Asura.
>W-WOAH GOKU THAT ATTACK IS STRONG ENOUGH TO BLOW UP THE PLANET WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?! WE DON'T JUST CASUALLY THROW THOSE OUT EVEN IN THE CELL SAGA!!
https://youtu.be/k5lwNsKbC4E?t=34
>>149836900So, according to your logic, Thragg loses, since in DBZ the way of fighting is from a distance and shooting lasers.
new pokemon snap on switch 2 looks beautiful.
>>149836940Post Thragg blowing up 3 planets by waving his hand
>>149836963The majority of fights are fighting and punching.
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>>149836900>6'10'' >400 pounds Thragg was the Sycho Sid of Viltrumites. I pity the monkey who tries to step up to this big motherfucker
>>149836944How can you not see that this proves you wrong? The Viltrumites can't survive this.
>>149836944You expect me to believe a Viltrumite could tank that?
>>149837001not in DBZ, they always shoot lasers.
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>>149836974I don't have to. This is what Thragg did to Nolan after the Viltrum explosion. Nolan, who is >>> 50x King Vegeta
>>149837030Easily. Sun disc.
>>149836944Do Z tards expect me to believe planet busting is no big deal after this, from a guy they tell me is ten thousand times stronger than planetary
Reminder that the dead Viltrumites orbiting the planet were all intact after tanking the explosion at point blank range.
>>149837030The Sun Disk was infinitely more powerful than that street tier blast
>>149837017>>149837030They couldn't survive it, but would a Viltrumite let Goku charge up a beam and then hit them with it? Admittedly, IT makes the hitting part easier.
>>149836944https://youtu.be/DYgr7aAvvgM?t=44
>AAAIIIIEEEEE BUU-SAMA, YOU'RE INSANE! THAT'S A PLANET LEVEL ATTACK! WE BEG YOU, STOOOOP!!!
>>149837063>Smart Atoms are still 14x planetary, minimum, after being dead and inert for possibly centuriesDid Z tards really think they had a chance?
>>149834630Around here its probably
>Kratosura>Kylemon>Wally VS Archie Sonic>Diocard>Goku VS Superman
>>149836900Oh all right, I'll play with you.
>>149837085Yes, especially since they didn't know he could teleport.
They can't survive in vacuum of space, of course the planet they're standing on exploding would be a big deal.
Should one point out, that even after Namek exploded, there was apparently still rubble that survived?
>>149837130So you think they would just stand there while Goku obviously charged energy?
>>149837159Rocks are the toughest materials in fiction.
>>149833597 (OP)>solos the Viltrum Empire
>>149837150Why did Frieza downplay himself to planet level then?
>>149837159>An image that shows that Freeza survived when a planet exploded in his face, the only damage he has is from the fight he had with Goku.
Sometimes I can’t tell if there are people here who actually think Viltrumites wouldn’t get instantly folded by anyone in DBZ from Saiyan Saga onwards or if they’re just shitposting.
>>149837196>the only damage he has is from the fight he had with Goku.What? are you saying Goku is above planet level?
>>149837173He will be able to do it in another country and teleport.
>>149837194>Why isn't he using 100% of his power at all times?
>>149833662Death Battle: Omni Man scales to the Disc so he is star level
Also Omni Man: Needed to destroy a planet along with two other Viltrumites and a destabilized core along with it, meanwhile Bardock scales to King Vegeta, who casually blew three planets with a wave..
These fuckers man lmao
>>149837201Saiyans are weaklings and DBZ fans are deluded from statements.
>>149837201Are you actually too arrogant to fathom alternative viewpoints or are you just saying that?
>>149837211>DURRRR WHY AREN'T HIS FISTS AOE EFFECT?!>Keeps desperately clinging to a non-canon scene with as much relevance as SSJ Goku being harmed by an elephantDumbass dragon keks I swear
>>149837211It's because a planet's core is so dense that flying into it full throttle like that would fuck them up. Nolan could've flown through the crust and mantle 200 times over if he had to and I think that gets overlooked a ton
>>149837214>He says it when he ignores feats and uses a statement as his example.
>>149836674>Instantly Fodderizes the entire Empire but Keeps Nolan around to help lift heavy things in the human village (he eventually got tamed by Human pussy)
>>149837217I think you should stop posting if you’re going to argue moon level Viltrumites are beating planet busters.
>>149837201We're 100% serious. Death battle is correct
>>149837196So Frieza is as durable as a small chunk of Namek?
Hell, since some pieces survived, that points even more to Frieza surviving because the crust took most of the explosion.
>>149833662The worst part? Even if we only use the weakest known version of Bardock in base form.... Omniman gets wrecked, hard. Omniman's feats are CONTINENTAL, not planetary. He moved an asteroid the size of Texas. He PARTICIPATED in the destruction of a single large planet, in an extremelly specific method that required precision from everyone least they die in the process...
Meanwhile, King Vegeta is multi-planet with a wave of his hand at 10k PL, and Roshi in the 22n Budokai has a moon blasting Kamehameha, at a mere 125 PL.
>>149837238so now we have to ignore feats?
>>149837259You say that like it matters. Oh boy, saiyans can charge up all their ki for a planet busting attack that they will kill themselves with if they aim wrong and they can at any time get their heads ripped off by FACTUALLY MFTL Viltrumites. Can't even survive in space either so they can just grab a monkey bitch by the tail and toss them into orbit to choke and die. Oh dear god, not the planet busting!
>>149837259I think you should provide proof anyone up to Frieza is a planet buster without using filler instead of taking it as a given that so and so are planetary and so and so are "more planetary than planetary" and so on for the dozens of power creeps Z went through
>>149837266cope and seethe
>>149837252I guess those heavy things were the outerversal half a foot golden statue, huh?
>>149837209That's very OOC for Goku. He doesn't really do these kinds of cheap shots unless he gets really desperate. And like, really really desperate.
>>149837210He panicked when Toppo erased the attack. And the entire sequence is just to hype Toppo's transformation and hakai. If he did it to an equivalent to a wrist slap to his previous form then it wouldn't be impressive.
>>149836726This is still more impressive than almost anything I've seen in dragonball, honestly.
>>149837295>FACTUALLY MFTL Viltrumites. Lmao
https://youtu.be/qikaqesCiEw?si=FSFVGbBXmOrxEC9S
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>Hulk lands in the super hero pose
>slowly stands up
>cranes his neck to look around
>suddenly, the ground rumbles.
>Hulk's muscles twitch, as he braces himself, snarling
>suddenly
>CHING CHING
>squeaky squeaky squeaky squeaky
>the squeaking gets louder
>>149837325>That's very OOC for GokuYes, but so was the DB episode. Superman also behaved like an idiot and not like he really is.
>>149837345It's a fact dragonBITCH, they fly through universes without space ships, they ignite plasma trails while wrecking cities just by passing over them, they tag teleporters and catch speedsters who can be in two places at once. You are C O P I N G.
>>149837299Vegeta was literally going to destroy Earth, you dumb nigger.
>>149837394Ehh he was just goading Goku into challenging his attack, I doubt he was about to suicide himself.
>>149837340Nah
https://youtube.com/shorts/Gsz5ZKSPnUI?si=p9LYKx_PHTLMyiGS
>>149837428Eh, not nearly as cool.
>>149837394We didn't see it happen
>>149837201You're looking at this too narrow minded anon.
Yes, in a comptition to see who can blow up a bigger thing, the Saiyans probably win (well, Vegeta and King Vegeta win, I'm not as sure about Raditz and Nappa. Bardock entirely depends on where you think he should scale).
But here's the thing. The Viltrumite's strength is entirely due to their high speed and ability to punch shit really hard. Saiyans aren't slouches in that departnet, but not to the exact level of Viltrumites.
So, most of the times, Saiyans only win if they can hit with a big charged ki attack. So, question is, can they do so without destroying themselves against a human sized target that is faster and has better CQC?
>>149837446>We didn't see it happenbreh
>>149837266>It might had overcome the GBE of a fuck huge planet, but there are still rocks. City level explosionYou really want people to bring the yo-yo again, do you?
>>149837454Viltrumites have that barehanded meteor hurling kind of physical strength. Something would happen if Omni Man grabbed Bardock and squeezed
>>149837502Moon level bootleg flash?
>>149837519English please
>>149835809Do they win this one
>>149837454Omni-man got knocked out by War Woman. Can it with the downplay.
Remember that time SSJ Vegeta in Super couldn't even budge a 1000 ton robot? Do you know how many tons an asteroid the size of texas would weigh? And Nolan can just HURL that thing back into space??
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>>149837494>You really want people to bring the yo-yo again, do you?leave the viltrumites to me
>>149837566Yes, I also remember that he won this fight.
>>149837566Renember the cosmic mini bomb that destroyed that sheed, or the cosmic yo-yo, or the MFTL++++++++ 200 mph flash, or some "universal" dude absorbing earth to become universal, or the cosmic table that came from yggdrasil, the same goddamn tree that made the cosmic wood pole, or the star level beam not even managing to destroy the core of a big planet, that would also had killed 3 of the strongest viltrumites if they tried to ram into it without the "star" gun.
>>149837638Elephant. Fire hydrant. Rock. Stop lowballing dragonKEK.
>>149837494I'm not saying it's city level, but it's clearly not 'casually disintigrate a planet' level.
And Frieza was still gonna die if not for the cyborg implants.
And that's ignoring all the later scenes showing planet level attacks as being dangerous (and not just because 'lol oxygen')
>>149837663Cell could survive in space and even he was freaking out.
>>149837663Luckily planet destructions calcs are based on GBE and not destroying matter.
>>149837671Or 16's bomb was something that he tried to use to kill Cell (and was designed to kill at least Saiyan Saga Goku), and considering it was an attempt to save the planet 16 loves so much, it would have to be something that left it in a functioning state after detonation
And how the fuck do you Ki Control a purely mechanical bomb?
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>>149837703That bomb? The same bomb that killed mark
>>149837703>And how the fuck do you Ki Control a purely mechanical bomb?the same way Dr. Gero created Androids with Ki control. duh
>>149837679>GBESomething Toriyama clearly wasn't thinking of?
>>149837756Dragon keks will cower behind "I-IT WAS GERO WHO BUILT THAT DOOR" and then try to play this off.
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>>149837767>tori wasn't thinking of the gravity of the planet, BELIEVE ME
>>149837653https://youtube.com/shorts/SlXwR6T_ko8?si=5hT5HR4FYcjivAMB
You speak as if the Viltrumites were immune to that.
>>149837809>>tori wasn't thinking of the gravity of the planetmakes sense. he is the kind of guy that gave kid goku toon powers then dropped them when the manga became serious
>>149837121I wasn't here for Wally vs Sonic, but even i remember seeing shit about Wally's side acting the fool
>>149837781that door was destroyed
>>149837838Krillin and Tien were vastly stronger than Nappa by that point and couldn't even dent a metal door, but deluded dragon keks will argue until they turn blue that Nappa could beat Conquest.
>>149837663>And Frieza was still gonna die if not for the cyborg implants.Yes, because of the damage he suffered from the fight with Goku.
>>149837855...Built by the guy who made planetary at the very least androids?
>>149837855That door was created by a guy who could build machines that could destroy worlds.
>>149837809Does Toriyama have a degree in physics? The explanation of 'well, the explosion had to go through everything between the core and Frieza, so he didn't have to take the entire force'
It also, you know, squares with him being afraid to just blow up the planet from the surface and Buu doing it and being reduced to chunks, not that he cared really.
>>149837894You don't know what GBE is, isn't?
>cybernetics enhanced Freezer
>what do you mean you can make metal that more durable?
SCIENCE BITCH
holy shit. i want to hear this shitposter's opinions on Iron Man's suits.
Frieza level door
Super Saiyan level elephants
Cell level rock
SS4 level buildings
Buu level bullets
God level hydrant
>>149837879>>149837890Did the door have ki control as well Fagon Fag fags? LMAO your verse is a fucking joke
>>149837928Can you stop talking like a sharty fag?
>>149837919>All these examples are of people who were not harmed and only felt a little pain.>and a door that was destroyedOk
>>149837928The door was destroyed, and the guy who built it was capable of creating robots that destroyed worlds.
>>149837928>Did the door have ki controlIt and the active tube holding 16 tanked a blast that destroyed the hill, no?
why is this hard to understand?