Thread 149927231

I don't get why Disney still hypes so many of its old films but then pretends others, such as this one, don't exist.

>>149927231 (OP)
Uncle Walt hated the movie when it came out

>>149927231 (OP)
they saw too much porn of the squirrel online so talking about this movie scares them

>>149927231 (OP)
If it isnt gynocentric musical princess shit then disney wants to bury it and pretend it never exists

>>149927231 (OP)
>>149927317
Not like they wanna bury it and pretend it never happened, it's just that their biggest buyers are little girls and nostalgic women-child and probably gay men too so the things marketed towards girls sell more.

>>149927231 (OP)
>>149927231 (OP)
I don't get the hate for this movie, It was one of my favorites when I was a kid. Had cool adventures and a distinct art style, similar to the one used in the 101 dalmatians, jungle book, robin hood...

>>149927317
>>149927378
Are The Jungle Book and Peter Pan buried too?

>>149927378
>just that their biggest buyers are little girls and nostalgic women-child and probably gay men too so the things marketed towards girls sell more.
Then why dont they maybe not sabotage the boy brands they stole and ruined so the rat could foster a male audience

>>149927597
>>149927621
My best guess is they focused so much on girl franchises for so long they really don't know how to make boy franchises anymore. So they went "fuck it let's make Marvel and Star Wars girl franchises too, worked for Hunger Games, and let's remake Peter Pan but really make it about Wendy this time around"

>>149927678
>My best guess is they focused so much on girl franchises for so long they really don't know how to make boy franchises anymore.
And now because they broke our toys theyve become the most hated company in the eyes of males everywhere and only contributed to the escalation of misogyny in modern men. Good going Disney!

At least it's well represented in Lorcana.

>>149927832
Does anyone buy lorcana?

>>149927231 (OP)
Disney can't really admit girls loved it because they shlicked furiously to Arthur and his "magic sword"

>>149929172
reaction streamers and 14 years old that think it's "investment" do. a lot. tourneys are empty though.

>>149927231 (OP)
Because it’s a movie most people don’t care about.

>>149927317
This. Disney is a brand for women. Men and boys don't matter to them.

>>149927274
To be fair, it is a little on the meandering side of things, but weren't he and Bill Peet on the outs at the time? I feel like some personal feelings might have colored his opinion.

>>149929318
Second the tourney thing. My LGS is the only one I know of in an area that isn’t hurting for them and the one time I popped in to get some more D6, they were doing the most recent set’s pre-release at the same time they were doing a casual MtG Commander Day. Lorcana pre-release had maybe a quarter of one of the long tables while all others were filled with MtG. I have no idea how it will survive more than a decade at most.

>>149929318
>>149929462
Whats a tourney? Sounds like a retarded word

>>149927701
>modern men become mysogyn after a company broke their favorite toys
The stench and state of humanity.

>>149927231 (OP)
>White boy in white Europe
>White boy isnt a bad guy and doesn't oppress blacks
Yeah modern Disney isnt gonna like Arthur.

>>149929760
I will completely admit that a large contributing factor to why ive become so misogynistic within the past decade was because of disneys rape of the star wars franchise. Its not the only reason, but the way the rat maliciously abused my favorite childhood franchise and other women were smug condescending assholes who enjoyed seeing it licked apart because if their daddy issues makes me hate the entire scum kind

>>149927231 (OP)
The only movie Disney pretends doesn't exist is The Song of the South. You know, the movie that resulted in the first academy award for a black man, but that faggots now call racist because Uncle Remus doesn't rape those white children for reparations.

>>149929172
From feedback I've heard, it's a bit black and white. Either your Lgs has decent-sized group, or it's non-existent. Personally, of the 4 Lgs I visit, 3 still have a regular Lorcana night. It's a fun approachable game , and unlike most MtG tables I see, has a healthy mix of men and women of wildly varying ages (I've challenged grannies and 12 year olds at the same table, all in good fun). Naturally, there will always be a core contingent of tryhard ex-MtG players (which I guess you could categorize me as, but I don't take winning too seriously), and they're the ones that generally go to the more serious tournaments rather than the casual League nights.

>>149929886
You know what else generally gets buried? The Black Cauldron. Weirdly enough, after the set that comes out in a few weeks (featuring The Goofy Movie and a few Dumbo cards), there's supposed to be a set coming out near the end of the year with The Black Cauldron and Gargoyles. Maybe there's hope for Song of the South yet.

>>149930516
Nah, The Black Cauldron has had VHS, DVD and bluray releases and is available right now on Disney+. Song of the South is actually shadow banned inside Disney. I think, and I'm not 100% sure, the last time it emerged from the vault was when they were doing those steel-case DVD releases like 20 years ago, and they put out a lot of old stuff that had never been released on home media, like the WW2 shorts. I can't remember if Song of the South was released momentarily back then though. I don't own it and I bought a lot of them, so possibly not even then.

The only Disney thing that comes anywhere close the the shadow-ban that Song of the South has is Pete's Dragon, and that's still not really close.

>>149930599
Well, we'll just see how things go. Pete's Dragon, I don't remember it well, but I vaguely recall liking it as a kid. I wouldn't mind that showing up as a card or two. Actually, that kind of unlocked a core memory for me... thinking about Pete's Dragon reminded me of Bedknobs and Broomsticks, just because they shared that whole 'animation/live action' mix. I recall my sister and I really enjoying that movie, but no one we knew at the time had even heard of it.
Sorry to veer off on a tangent. You got me on a nostalgia trip.

>>149927678
>worked for Hunger Games,
Hunger games fans are like....majority of them are female

>>149927597
>Peter Pan
Tinker Bell is huge with girls, and 99% of Disney adult women want to fuck Captain Hook.

>>149930873
>99% of Disney adult women want to fuck Captain Hook

>>149930873
>>149931033
>fisting gone wrong

>>149930873
>99% of Disney adult women want to fuck Captain Hook
What can I say? Bitches love me!

>>149930599
Song of the South was never part of the Disney Treasures. Most bootleg DVDs are based on a Japanese laserdisc release from the early 90s.

>>149931117
Ah, well there you go. Like I said, it's the only Disney thing that really qualifies as "pretending it doesn't exist".

The reasoning behind it being shadow banned is crazy too, almost as bad as Warner's with Coal Black, a cartoon that they hired black musicians to work on that white people decades later declared was racist.

>>149927678
Pretty much this.
The people they have in charge of production only know how to make girl oriented entertainment. When they bought Star Wars, the same people that make Descendants, Pretty Little Liars, and Monster High were in charge of that too so they did what they always did. Make a YA novel type of story with a rebellious teen girlboss.

>>149929760
Well yeah, Star Wars geeks were the original super dedicated scifi nerds that learned unnecessary fake languages, and spent their days building props and alien statues while shunting out the real world.

Fucking with them ruined their whole lives and had them lashing out in weird and crazy ways.

But that was also one of the first times a studio decided to abandon the fans they had in hopes of attracting the cooler, more hip audiences they wish they had. With largely Twitter teens this time around, but instead they lost all fans and gained nearly nothing. Then other studios also tried it too and lost fans. Which sort of became a thing in the 2010s.

>>149933326
>but instead they lost all fans

Then how is SW still popular?

>>149927597
>Jungle Book
For sure, yeah.
>Peter Pan
Tinkerbell hard carries all relevance that movie has. To the point it became it's own thing with disney fairies.

Movie has girls. Girls bad. Movie bad.

>>149929886
Not really, Disney tends to bury a movie that does not perform well.

Black Cauldron
Aristocats
Oliver and Company
Rescuers Down Under
Bolt
Fox and the Hound
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Meet the Robinsons

And they don't really like mentioning Alice in Wonderland so much either. It was rarely rereleased in theaters in the 60s through 90s when they rereleased a classic movie every couple of years.

>>149929886
Weirdly Disney was really pushing it in the late 80s-early 90s when splash Mountain was completed, they used to play the animated Brer Rabbit shorts on Disney channel all the time, and the Zippedy Doo Dah song was constantly played over everything for a while.

>>149933349
Because The Mandalorian Seasons 1&2 revitalized that interest by just being a fun Star Wars series that drew upon its classical form.
Then they fucked that up again via spinoff hell, and Andor Season 1 had to bring everyone back in again via a drastic tonal pivot that was actually good.

>>149933528
So fans didn’t actually lose interest

>>149933349
It's not getting any new fans at all. Star Wars is really just something people who grew up in the 80s and 90s are still kind of into but it's definitely a dying franchise.

>>149933598
>[citation needed]

>>149927231 (OP)
Because it's possibly the worst way to make an Arthur adaptation?

Take one of the biggest hypest stories in the English and French speaking worlds, and then only focus on the time he was some orphan squire for Sir Kay at age 12 who is learning about math, language, and fish, and never include anything cool or interesting from the Arthur stories at all. It's a really fucking strange decision to make for an Arthur adaptation.

>>149933419
With the exception of the Black Cauldron, I love all of those. Bolt was okay, not my thing, but the Black Cauldron. I've never seen it before.

>>149933559
Kinda, its more that Star Wars Dropped below the stability point on the Trust Thermocline which is tied to overall intrest, and it took legitimately good content to get it back over that line.

>>149933349
A lot of momentum, and deranged (wo)man-children

>>149933270
>When they bought Star Wars, the same people that make Descendants, Pretty Little Liars, and Monster High were in charge of that too so they did what they always did.
I think the solution is someone needs to buy up a bunch of girl properties and aggressively market them to men as reparation's against women
>>149933349
Its not lol
>>149933528
Andor was fucking shit tho

>>149933454
Why did they decide to make splash mountain designed around a mostly forgotten film people considered to be racist?

>>149933326
>But that was also one of the first times a studio decided to abandon the fans they had in hopes of attracting the cooler, more hip audiences they wish they had. With largely Twitter teens this time around, but instead they lost all fans and gained nearly nothing. Then other studios also tried it too and lost fans. Which sort of became a thing in the 2010s.
I really hope within the next decade or so some report comes out that explains why so many companies were seemingly intentionally burning away goodwill between built in franchises during the 2010s. It made no senes from a business perspective

>>149933419
>Oliver and Company
The amount of disrespect heaped onto this movie by Disney is actually kind of astounding. It was middling critically but it literally saved Disney Feature Animation and made it possible for them to do one film a year.

Little Mermaid saved the company even harder the very next year, but this common sentiment that O&C did "badly" couldn't be any more true. It did gangbusters in theaters and merchandising and for a very short period of time was the highest-grossing animated feature for an initial release, until Little Mermaid.

>>149934564
By all means, give female properties more mainstream exposure

>>149934798
Disney prefers little mermaid because they worship the singing princess shit genre that the movie revitalized

>>149927597
Peter Pan is kind of racist towards American Indians, growing up my buddy's native mom won't let him watch it.

Jungle Book is racist as shit once you realize the Louie and the orangutans are Jazz musicians.

Disney tries to distance them self from stuff that is considered racist 30 years later. FYI I love both, The Sword in the Stone on the other hand gets boring in the middle.

>>149935014
>Peter Pan is kind of racist towards American Indians, growing up my buddy's native mom won't let him watch it.
Your friends mom sounded like an uptight bitch

>>149927275
>scared
>not intrigued

>>149934798
Interesting how it finally took until 1989 before they managed to reach Walt's dream of one animated movie a year. Before they could only manage 2 a decade.

>>149930599
>>149931117
Reportedly, Lenard Maltin really wanted to release Song of the South as part of the Treasures series and the home media department wholly supported it, saying it would sell a ton of copies. It kept getting approved until it reached Bob Iger and he said no.

>>149935158
Yeah, but in the 90's and 00's Disney got thousands of letter form christian, Morman and Jewish housewifes complaining about everything under the sun and because Disney cares about "family values" they listened.

>>149935311
Thats why i always thought disney was lame even as a kid in the 2000s because back then they catered to christian PTA moms but then in the 2010s they switch to pandering to feminist landwhales who were also similarly as prudish and puritanical as the christian soccer moms were. Funny thag

>>149933419
There's a difference you dolt. Like I already said, all those movies have been released on home media and are available to stream. The things they don't want people to see are NOT RELEASED.

>>149934594
>Why did they decide to make splash mountain designed around a mostly forgotten film people considered to be racist?

Splash mountain was added to the park before faggots made shit up about Song of the South. And it was an incredibly popular attraction. It was renamed due to Burn Loot Murder.

>>149934798
Great Mouse Detective is seen as the "Renaissance Prelude" more then Oliver even if the formula is more prominent in it what with having a bunch of celebs versus GMD just having Vincent Price.

>>149935506
>Splash mountain was added to the park before faggots made shit up about Song of the South.
Yeah but even back then no one liked song of the south because it was boring. Why did they design the whole attraction over a even at the time mostly forgotten disney film that was mid even by disney standards?

>>149934594
Splash Mountain was created to kill multiple birds with one stone.
>America Sings was shut down for becoming too dated but it had a ton of animatronics that would have otherwise gone to waste.
>The area by Country Bear Jamboree at Disneyland was a dead end since it didn't catch on as much as it did in Florida
>Management really wanted a log ride like the one at Knotts.

Song of the South was picked because the America Sings animals fit the aesthetic down to the point of there being multiple foxes and rabbits that could be repurposed for the Brers and because it was the only thing they could think of that made sense sitting between New Orleans Square and the Country Bears. There was even a proposal to merge New Orleans Square and Bear Country into a larger "Dixieland" with an animatronic Mark Twain show taking over one of the two Country Bear theaters, but they got cold feet on it and just decided to rebrand Bear Country into Critter Country.

>>149927231 (OP)
Some movies are more popular than others, simple as that.

>>149935570
Zip a Dee Doo Dah was basically Disney's second main theme song after When You Wish Upon a Star.

>>149935014
>Jungle Book is racist as shit once you realize the Louie and the orangutans are Jazz musicians.
Louis Prima is white you retard.

>>149935570
Fuck off zoomer, you know nothing.

>>149935613
That's a literal who to most people that bitch about Disney movies and it has been alleged that Louis Prima only got the part because they realized the implications of their original plan to get Armstrong to voice him.

>>149935590
>>America Sings was shut down for becoming too dated but it had a ton of animatronics that would have otherwise gone to waste.
Didnt some bitch die in america sings in the 80s? Also because of star wars autism i know some of the animatronics from that attraction were also used in star tours for the goose droids
>>The area by Country Bear Jamboree at Disneyland was a dead end since it didn't catch on as much as it did in Florida
And yet disney STILL made a country bears movie in like 2004
>There was even a proposal to merge New Orleans Square and Bear Country into a larger "Dixieland"
jesus christ...
>>149935611
Yeah but the movie was shit from what i understand. Jay from RLM one time mentioned in a video how it wasnt even entertaining in a racist sort of way like coal black was, it was just really slow and boring

So, the movie finally got a REAL remaster on Bluray 2 years ago. But it's cropped 16:9, while an uncropped edition was released as digital download on Amazon in Germany. WHY NOT RELEASE THAT ON DISK TOO?????

And it's not like it will be an expensive release: the scanning and cleaning and colour correction is ALL DONE, just find the master file and use that to author the Bluray.

>>149935661
>The King of Swing is a literal who
Everything you say is revisionist horseshit trying to justify a nonsense statement.

>>149935751
Braindead Buzzfeed readers/writers assuming a jazz playing ape named Louie is a Satchmo reference is much more common then you think.

>>149933349
In the same way films starring the Rock are 'popular'

>>149927231 (OP)
Song of the South has the company's best animation.

>>149935590
Ironically why Splash is one of the best attractions Disney made is because of Sots.
>>149935289
Bob Iger also cucked the release of a compellation of comics.

>>149935506
Changing the theme is a viable business idea when you have many many multiple instances of police, cities and the federal government just apparently letting mobs run rampant across towns and destroying at their leisure and not really trying or caring to do something about it. While business after business is completely ruined over a thing happening in the news.

Companies need to start looking after themselves when they see all levels of law enforcement not wanting to do anything about wide scale crime over a period of 6 months.

>>149935289
>>149936115
Why was iger a virtue signaling bitch even before the 2010s made it the "cool" thing to do?

>>149934564
>buy up a bunch of girl properties and aggressively market them to men
Ironically, it will be more successful.

>>149935392
The white suburban PTA moms switched their political allegiances around 2006-2008.

They WERE the Christian right wing church ladies who violently protested anything interesting and hid behind For the Children!
Then they switched over to pro-LGBT everything, anti right feminists while still making the exact same protests of the exact same media in the exact same way. Their antics did not change at all, it's just what they hate and want removed from tv changed.

...except any depiction of something sexual or just a hot woman appearing on screen, that remained exactly the same. The Church ladies wanted that removed in the 80s, the purple haired lesbians want that removed now.

I was going to say that Bedknobs and Broomsticks was forgotten by Disney but they actually did a stageshow of it recently (seems it got fucked by Covid)

>>149936147
>Changing the theme is a viable business idea when you have many many multiple instances of police, cities and the federal government just apparently letting mobs run rampant across towns and destroying at their leisure and not really trying or caring to do something about it.
Companies not putting their foot down and saying "no" to some rando twitter is why 2020 was such a fucking mess in the first place. If companies didnt immediately bend over for any retard with a tangently race related complaint then all of the appeasement political correctness bullshit damage from 2020 chimpouts wouldve been avoided. Companies like disney were cowards just like the government that didnt send out the national guard with firehoses to beat their asses back into the ghetto that year

>>149936157
Because the early 90s was also an era of that bullshit going on. Politically Correct was the term back then, Simpsons and Married with Children spent years making fun of the camp too. But there was a strong leftist idealistic moron camp back then desperately trying to fuck over all entertainment media at that time.

The main difference is that it came right off the back of the Satanic Panic and it had a pretty large pushback from everyone else, so crude, rude, intentionally non-PC entertainment became the cool thing that took over by the late 90s.

>>149936203
Wrong, the christian right wing soccer moms were of a different demographic then the puritan left wing feminists. The ones that changed were the left which were all about freedom and sexual liberation in the 2000s, to having the same puritanical values as the christoid right suddenly in the mid 2010s. I felt betrayed by the left even back then when that all happened because what seemed like overnight america just had two competing but equally regressively conservative parties all of a sudden.

>>149936228
#Metoo happening a couple years earlier scared the shit out of them. All of Hollywood saw Weinstein taken down by a Twitter campaign, along with a large list of others right after, they instantly became cripplingly TERRIFIED of the Twitter anger mob. Who did manage to get a reasonable amount of authority to go after and fuck over anyone they wanted for a few years there.

By 2018 the mindset was do nothing, say nothing, let the Twitter mob do whatever the fuck they wanted. while content creators flipped all their writing over to please Twitter, make things only Twitter wants to see, fuck everyone else, Twitter has all the power!

>>149936282
They are the same animal, bored suburban white bitches that want to exert authority over others. They will flip politics, belief systems, and religions but their actions remain the same.

>>149936242
>and it had a pretty large pushback from everyone else, so crude, rude, intentionally non-PC entertainment became the cool thing that took over by the late 90s.
So why the hell hasnt the era of crass and irreverent offensiveness come back as a retaliation against the era of SJW feminism?
>>149936290
I dont even understand why they let #MehTurd happen either. Why didnt any company put their foot down and refuse to fire someone just because some nagging roasties online said so?

>>149936228
>>149936290
Yep, it was #metoo that caused all this shit to go down. Everyone in the upper executive levels of the studios were scared shitless of the social media users and then changed all of their output to match the trends and feelings of social media. This is how we got nothing but magical brown lesbian girl adventures, and Disney movies about mental health.

>>149936327
No, christian rightoids are typically older boomer puritan white woman while the leftist feminazis are typically millennial and zoomer white women

The moral here is white women are evil and should be exterminated

>>149936348
>So why the hell hasnt the era of crass and irreverent offensiveness come back as a retaliation against the era of SJW feminism?
Oh that absolutely will, the pendulum always swings the opposite direction each generation because kids do not want to be like their parents at all. So in about 10-15 years expect middle schoolers flinging slurs to come back in a really big way because that will definitely shock and terrify zoomer mom and dad.

You are missing that the 90s was a pendulum swing from the 80s perfect family style entertainment, which was a flip from the 70s drugs, sex and gore entertainment, which was a flip from the forced perfect Nuclear American family shit of the 60s...

>>149936414
Why the actual fuck cant someone break this cycle and impose a eternal vulgar and offensive era without ever regressing back into stuffy prudishness ever again? Why anyone would want to be cucked by puritanism and PC fascism is beyond me

>>149936348
Because a wealthy powerful billionaire Hollywood executive Jew king was destroyed by people bitching on twitter. Something that was unheard of and never ever thought to happen. Then about 20 more were totally ruined by that same group in the next year.

Remember Aziz Ansari? He was in everything everywhere for 15ish years, then he was #metoo'ed for just a bad date. That's it. An awkward weird date, no years of rape, no casting couch, no coke or hookers...he's fucking done. Because Twitter hate mob targeted him in 2017.

>>149936382
If you exterminate white women, there will be no one left to make all the feral porn I know you love.

>>149936442
It's older than you think.

The Victorian England prudishness that is so well known of the entire 19th century was a swing away from the late 1700s fuck anything and anyone that moves culture that used to be around. The Victorians went full prude when a sizable percentage of the British had gonorrhea.

>>149936473
>ruining a mans life for a bad date
I am so excited for the uptick in assaults against women thatll be all over the news in the coming decade, directly caused by shit like this happening to cause this generation of men to absolutely resent women

>>149936414
Imagining kids and their grandparents having the best time ever just saying Fag around the parents and horribly shocking them over and over again.

They are going to have it so easy. They just need to be typical sexist to shock the parents.

>>149936506
I dont understand it at all tho, why would anyone welcome puritan regression in such a horrible way? Are they retarded? Are people such sheep they will castrate themselves culturally just to be contrarian from their parents? I hate western civilization so fucking much

>>149936348
Because the only people who want that are racist asshole so that they can say slurs without getting shit for it. It’s got nothing to do with edginess and everything to do with just being an unapologetic racist asshole

Thanks for ruining the thread btw, I definitely don't want to strangle all of you.

>>149927231 (OP)
It's been a while since I watched this, but I remember that I hated Merlin by the end.

>>149935726
Cause they hate physical releases cause NOBODY BUYS THEM NO MORE CAUSE NORMIES ONLY STREEM DONT UOU GIT IT?

>>149936591
I see you did not read the entire post. It WAS put on disk, but only the cropped widescreen version.

>>149936559
>thinking its all about racism
It also means not being burdened by sexual puritanism like society is now or having the comedy police breath down your neck for not saying something "le problematic", but please keep proving me right about PC freaks being cancer you SJW bitch

>>149936574
It's going to be the main direction of any thread asking
>Why did Disney to X?

At least it didn't segway into 50 posts bitching about Star Wars

>>149936622
>No, you’re being puritanical when you don’t clap when I say slurs!

You’re being an asshole. Nobody likes an asshole in real life

>>149936684
>Everything is a slur now
And this is why people hate you faggots for ruining entertainment with your moralfaggotry, dumb foid

Merlin vs Madam Mim was probably the most memorable part of the movie.

"[Movie] is gynocentric" is a neutral observation, that doesn't actually provide a reason why any film is good or bad. Similarly, "[Movie has girls] and [Movie is bad because it has girls] are completely unrelated statements.

>>149936157
Iger really wants to run for President as a Democrat even though he'd be laughed out of the room if he ever tried.

>>149936931
Kikis delivery service is good because i wanna fuck kiki. I dont want to fuck rey or holdo or rose tico

>>149936978
She's a kid.

>>149936968
>getting the guy who ruined star wars to run for president
He would lose in a landslide because a large portion of why so many young men became radicalized in the first place was because of "the force is female" bullshit. Also i think i heard of this desire of his before, didnt he retire originally from disney CEO to try and do a presidential bid?

>>149927231 (OP)
most of the movies are now horror to fnati and creepypasta senpaitachi

>>149936996
Out of 10!

>>149936996
he should go back to /a/, the horrifying pedo zone

>>149937088
>senpaitachi
what kind of typo did i make

>>149927317
Not that Disney's attempts at male media are any good. I don't think anyone gives a damn about Disney's adaptation of Arthur. The most "interest" people have in Arthur is self inserting during the squirrel lust sequence. But no one gives a fuck about Arthur. Disney has always been god awful at making male oriented media. If they ever get a male character right like Aladdin? That's a fluke. And you need to remember that Disney's reputation as being Girl Shit is what makes boys not bother to give them a chance.

Once your reputation precedes you? That's it. And shit like destroying Star Wars with Feminism doesn't help Disney's case. Disney is a gynocentric shitty company.

>>149937218
>Disney has always been god awful at making male oriented media.
Treasure planet was kino. I still hate that disney tried appealing to boys in the early 2000s only to double down on princess dreck again in the late 2000s onward

>>149929362
The only time men and boys mattered to Disney funny enough is Kingdom Hearts. But that's because that series managed to sell well due to being made by Square Enix when they were good. Nowadays I think Kingdom Hearts is considered lame shit.

I think Kingdom Hearts 4 will sell badly.

>>149937242
I honestly don't like Treasure Planet because in its own twisted way it's still Girl Shit. In the original book, Jim's father did NOT abandon him. For Disney's shitty bastardization Jim's father is a deadbeat who abandoned his son so they can glorify a shitty single mother stereotype about how she must be pitied and shit. Fuck Disney.

And I don't like how the captain got sex changed into a woman because Disney just can't help themselves with their Pro Woman bullshit. I hate Amelia's introduction it reeks of "Oh my god look at how cool and tough and capable this female character is!" That shit was tiresome in the 90s during the Girl Power decade but in the 2000s? It was annoying shit. The worst part is that this American obsession with Pro Female anything evolved to become Girl Bosses which continue being shitty and annoying.

I don't fault male customers from opting out of western media anymore. Western media is estrogen shit and I will never forgive examples like the marketing campaign of Game of Thrones...

All Men Must Die.

To Hell with Jewish American shit because this problem goes far beyond simply Disney. Jews are shit.

>>149933419
I’ve seen more Alice merch made over the years than that of Emperor’s New Groove and Tarzan and many other Disney films from the late 90s/early 2000s.

>>149927597
Disney's Jungle Book is lame trash. Disney's Mowgli is a lame character who is incompetent without every animal defending him from predators.

As for Peter Pan that franchise in general is considered a huge failure for many years now. Doesn't matter who handles it many people are over Peter Pan doesn't help that its rendition of what Neverland is turns out to be not entertaining to boys and they don't care about Indians and pirates. And a lot of people simply find that Peter Pan is badly written trash with an unlikable protagonist. Seriously the reason there's no Lost Girls according to the books is because girls are too smart to get lost? Sexist shit. Hope Peter Pan's creator is burning in Hell.

>>149936501
You don't know shit

>>149935014
>Peter Pan is kind of racist towards American Indians, growing up my buddy's native mom won't let him watch it.

I'm of the opinion Disney's Peter Pan is racist to both Indians and whites. The Indians have unflattering designs and their culture is outright ridiculous. However notice how Wendy got treated by that Indian Woman? Bossing her around that she's not supposed to enjoy the festivities but rather be put to work. You don't see that same Indian Woman bossing the other regular Indian chick she focuses strictly on Wendy for no reason. So I have to conclude that this is racism against whites. Because point blank that's what's being depicted for no reason at all this Indian Woman was angry and hateful towards Wendy who has done nothing wrong.

And I'm tired of idiots ignoring this element of that sequence.

>>149935506
No it was rethemed to The Princess and the Frog

>>149937535
Oh wait I thought you said it was renamed to “Burn Loot Murder” not renamed because of it goddamnit

>>149927678
Come on already Disney has NEVER known how to make male oriented media. Lets give you the idea example. Which do you think is more popular...

Disney's Zorro series

Or

Any other Zorro media especially the Antonio Banderas Zorro movie.

The answer is Non Disney. You can't show the kind of content that interests men in Disney media for doing so is not family friendly aka girl friendly. Men like thrills, action, violence, sexy women, the occasional swear, etc. All these things go against Disney's "squeaky clean inoffensive" brand which mostly appeals to girls. Disney at its core is incapable of being for males and its by design.

For crying out loud the first official Walt Disney Production is not even Mickey Mouse but rather the ALICE Comedies which was a mini series about a real girl going to a cartoony world. So again Disney has ALWAYS been for girls.

>>149937623
How about Pirates of the Caribbean?

>>149929783
>and other women were smug condescending assholes who enjoyed seeing it licked apart because if their daddy issues makes me hate the entire scum kind

This for me. I really hate how women have no empathy for men collectively. As such they will not apologize for ruining male franchises and male spaces and hell even employment culturally.

This sociopath unfeeling selfish essence of female nature is exactly why I became hateful of the female sex and I know there's other shitty things that they do like Divorce Court. So many millions of good husbands get destroyed by No Fault Divorce. Women are simply shit and I hope they are the Jews who empowered them suffer horrifically.

>>149937705
Pirates of the Caribbean is an interesting example in that it started somewhat alright enough but with each new sequel the gynocentric feminism started to escalate and it culminated with shit like Elizabeth being the Pirate Queen who orders the veteran pirate lords around to carry out her will. And follow up sequels invented shitty annoying Mary Sue characters like Barbossa's shitty daughter that no one liked.

Even if companies make something male friendly they always fuck it up in the sequels. And sometimes the seed of feminism shit is always there in the first episode or first movie and it sprouts in continuing episodes and sequels.

>>149937080
>so many young men became radicalized in the first place was because of "the force is female" bullshit
What a gay reason for your entire worldview to be changed

>>149937623
The most masculine Disney movie is actually Cool Runnings about the Jamaican Olympic Bobsled Team.

Though looking back that movie disappoints me because all the struggles and discrimination the characters endured? None of it happened in real life. So Disney's movie is a fan fiction about pitying blacks because of racism undertones.

>>149937725
>DA JOOS
Stop trying to shift the blame away from the feminist bitchs who deserve all the blame for this mess, you /pol/ addicted freak

>>149937784
>What a gay reason for your entire worldview to be changed
I hate what the alt-right has become by now, but all that manosphere shit only came about because you femoid swine kicked the hornets nest and got what you deserve from it

>>149937327
>glorify a shitty single mother stereotype about how she must be pitied and shit.
It gives Jim a reason to seek Treasure Planet other than he wants to find a place from his story book, the treasure was supposed to help his mom's money problems.
>the captain got sex changed into a woman
Yes the "women are just as capable as men" is tiring, but she does lose a fight and gets injured, becoming a liability to Jim and the doctor. She doesn't outright steal the spotlight and even becomes a love interest for the doctor.

>>149938001
>She doesn't outright steal the spotlight and even becomes a love interest for the doctor.
Also, elephant in the room, she was pretty hot.

>>149938001
>>149938026
I can deal with the female captain because that type of pre 2010s "grrl power" and "stronk wahman" character was as obnoxious as what came after it. Also yeah she was hot as balls

>>149936545
I think people see puritanism as a way to correct the system when they feel they're falling behind. On any side
Feel like you can't start a family because women are whore these days? Go to puritanism
Feel like they won't put fatties in media because they're focusing too much on sexy women? Go to puritanism

>>149939196
But that's such a retarded mentality. Why cuck yourself with restrictions and repression just to make others suffer the same fate as you do?

>>149939220
Ever hear about a bucket of crabs?

>>149937327
>>149937432
Stfu tranny

>>149937107
Kys troon

>>149939295
I think i remember that meme but i forgit

>>149933419
You forgot

Brother Bear
Dinosaur
Treasure Planet
Home on the Range
The Wild
Strange Magic
Robin Hood

>>149937432
Peter Pan was considered their biggest classic in the 50s while Tinkerbell became the mascot for the company until the 90s.

>>149939352
Basically, when you put a bunch of crabs in a bucket, and one tries to climb out, the others will pull him back down. No crabs will escape because they won't allow each other to.

disney has a weird distain for their legacy

>>149927231 (OP)
There isn't much about The Sword in the Stone worth remembering, so I wouldn't get too up in arms over Disney's treatment of the film.

>>149939864
>We literally are no better then crabs
eye opening

>>149940949
Yeah, as a species, we're all pretty shellfish.

>>149936931
Kiki's Delivery Service is a shitty story. So randomly both the mother and father of Kiki think that she's ready to move out into the real world and work at the old age of.........thirteen? The parents should have their daughter taken away from them for being irresponsible. Realistically speaking throwing your underaged daughter to move out of the house would increase her chances of getting actually molested or raped whichever term you prefer. Not a good thing.

And you have to remember this isn't like Harry Potter. The kids in Harry Potter do move away from their families to go to school but they are protected by teachers teaching them magic. Kiki is just a witch going solo into the real world. She has no guardians protecting or guiding her. And she's not a witch in the traditional sense so she can't do curses and incantations and magic like fire. The only thing she can do is fly and she needs a broom to fly. So she can't defend herself from anyone wanting to hurt her.

Honestly such an awful movie and it makes me hate the parents of Kiki.

bump

>>149936823
There were other parts of that movie?

>>149940949
japan crab is obviously superior though

>>149940829
not that weird, all successful film companies eventually get to that point

>>149927231 (OP)
Sometimes I think about T.H. White getting a hit Broadway musical and a Disney cartoon and then dying in 1964 before he could spend the money.

I guess overall it's better to get rich at the very end of your life than never get rich at all, but still.

>>149940829
It's more common than you think

>>149927231 (OP)
To be fair most of those old films are very dogshit

>>149937883
>it's your fault i'm a fucking idiot
i don't think you've got him with that one, tim

>>149927231 (OP)
Merlin is kind of an asshole

>>149927231 (OP)
It's basically "random shit happens: the movie". To be fair it's relatively accurate to the legends of Arthur's youth, but objectively it's a boring movie that only exists for fanfics of a fucking squirrel.

>>149931598
Not just "hired black musicians to work on", the entire cartoon was written in cooperation with them as a direct response to WB not having any black-centric cartoons. It was all intended as a nice gesture and was seen as such for many years.

>>149945836
And it’s still emblematic of the racist culture and its caricature type depiction of black people that was highly common and persistent in the era it was created in.

>>149945872
Monkey see, monkey do.

>>149935687
Song of the South is a good movie, it just has a slightly slow start.
>entertaining in a racist sort of way like coal black was
Coal Black isn't racist in any way , and is great fun.

>>149943498
I agree but i still hate weebs
>>149945144
Ny point being that feminism drove men to this point of extremism, you moron. I dont even agree with them anymore but the anti SJW movement only got so far because the original SJWs were so destructive and annoying

>>149940997
^Underrated post

>>149946630
'More like PUNderrated post, amirite?!' He chortled, purposely taking it too far. The evil of the Dad Joke swelled within him, corrupting all humor with reckless abandon.