Thread 149942027

Why the fuck do you consume so much /co/ntent instead of creating it?

>>149942027 (OP)
Same reason I wear clothes but don't work in an Indian sweatshop.

I'll get around to it when I feel like it

>>149942082
Doesn't stop Pilkey or Kinney.

>>149942027 (OP)
How do I pet the dog?

>>149942090
/co/ media with intentional bad art is oversaturated.

Simple. I do neither

>>149942027 (OP)
Because autism distracts you and you end up just spending hours watching content instead.

I could be drawing but I get distracted easily.

>>149942090
>>149942134
They aren’t bad

>>149942027 (OP)
Because everying I write is shit.

>>149942027 (OP)
I enjoy my actual career and like co shit as a hobby. It'd be cool to maybe write an episode of a cartoon or do a comic story but I'd never want to do that as a career.

>>149942027 (OP)
Because im too depressed and neurotic to focus on creative pursuits half the time

>>149942350
Same but everything I draw is shit. I think there's a billion idea guys out there but all of them are too talentless/uneducated to produce.
>>149942326
>Because autism distracts you and you end up just spending hours watching content instead.
Also this is a major factor. Also, the irony of complaining about people not being productive yet posting on 4chan.

>>149942027 (OP)
actually I barely watch or read any /co/ content and just draw off model, out of character porn all the time

There's nothing left to create. Billy and Mandy already exists.

>>149942027 (OP)
Why didn't you create a reaction image instead of reusing an existing one?

Why don't YOU make something, huh? If ziggy counts as serious /co/ work it can't be that hard.

>>149942027 (OP)
why bother? ai can do everything now. ;)

>>149942973
>ai can do everything now. ;)
AI can only regurgitate and remix what already exists. You have to feed it boring and uninspired generic and mass produced products like Family Guy and Hazbin Hotel to get it to generate anything, and even then THAT feels uninspired and generic

Looks like storyboarders should've majored in putting my pop tarts in the bag...

>>149943207
I don't get it.

>>149942027 (OP)
I am making my own comic, but i am mostly a writer and trying to learn to draw and force myself to do it is hard. and feels like it will never be good enough for people and theyll always criticize me for writing or art not being good enough. I try not to think about it but it makes me not progress for large periods of time. I dont like most any modern comics im trying to do something I would want to read and im a little weird so I hope when its done (standard floppy issue length) its good and readable as my dream is to have my own finished printedd comic. There is a similar comic called catgirl or something where he raised funds just for 1 issue and its all indie I guess it would be along those lines. Its a combination of Barbarella and Sailor Moon.

>>149943013
>you have to feed it boring and uninspired generic and mass produced products

have you? what if you forcefed it rembrandt, etc.?

>>149942027 (OP)
I try but get attacked for it

>>149943240
>>149943207
AI fags proving once again AI cannot generate anything original

>>149942973
Use it as a tool.

I don't even have to wait for lost tapes. It's like the show's right here!

Making things is hard. Next question

>>149942027 (OP)
Because you don't care about it and just want to watch normie slop clone/remake/remaster/reimagining #99,999,999

>>149942027 (OP)
I basically dont watch anything new.
As for creating things it turns out good ideas are surprisingly hard to come by, but you would know that just by the state of modern /co/

Gemini can't figure out the english language unless the comic is about coding

>>149943253
alright looks good. focus on the journey instead of the destination. then it doesn't matter if you reach a goal or not.

>>149943268
nah. ai is a replacement, not a tool. I'd rather just do things myself. seems the easier things get the more people complain and lower the bar. maybe we need things to be harder.

>>149943539
thanks man I think I was just looking for motivation to keep going, im gonna start the next pages art :) thanks

>>149942027 (OP)
"If I had it all to do over again, I'd cut off my hands."

- Wally Wood

>>149942027 (OP)
I’m working on my comic as we speak buddy cool your jets

>>149942027 (OP)
I just finished the first page of my comic.
The art and writing is crap, but I’ve stopped caring about that.
What been preventing me from creating was being a perfectionist.

>>149943623
I'm the same way anon except I'm a perfectionist when it comes to the story and get audtiv with how to do the layouts. Make sure to post your comic somewhere do I can read it, it looks really fun

>make /co/ thing
>make thread about it
>first reply, “buy an ad”

This is why we need a /co/ creator general that isn't the community toybox one or people begging for porn fanart

>>149942027 (OP)
I worked on a lot of different ideas, but I've never found a very big audience for it, so I try not to be too annoying about it. People are not posting their work here doesn't mean they are not making stuff.

>>149944773
well, have you been to "how is your webcomic" thread?

>>149944709
Thanks brother. I personally hate that im good at writing but suck sometimes at drawing, I did improve tho you can see the first 6 or so pages have so many flaws but last ones are good. Thanks for your interest feel free to read it.
https://lustless.the-comic.org/

>>149944984
Honestly I think it's better to be a good writer than a great artist, cause if the concept is good a great artist can come in and fix the art like Murata in One punch man

>>149945006
Yeah the art is a minor factor. Look at Dog Man.

>>149942027 (OP)
I'm drawing a Sonic the Hedgehog crossover autism comic
I tried to vaguely calculate the amount of pages I have left to draw and it's around 200 pages.

>>149946000
Kino

>>149942027 (OP)
my gf banned me from making ai porn

>>149942027 (OP)
Not everyone is artistically gifted

>>149942027 (OP)
>>149942027 (OP)
Make something almost every thread I post at, even got a fanfiction in the works I hamper myself making short meme edits I get one reply to or watching youtube shorts on my phone when I should be resting.
I haven't watched a full episode of something /co/ related in months, Shogun 2 probably doesn't help.

I did in the last /co/ draw thread

>>149943813
Cant believe the dude responsible for all those cool mars attacks cards had such a shit horrible life

>>149946577
>For much of his adult life, Wood had chronic, unexplainable headaches. In the 1970s, following bouts with alcoholism, Wood had kidney failure. A stroke in 1978 caused a loss of vision in one eye. Faced with declining health and career prospects, he shot and killed himself in Los Angeles on November 2, 1981.[1][5] Toward the end of his life, an embittered Wood would say, according to one biography, "If I had it all to do over again, I'd cut off my hands."[58]

Yeesh. That's rough going for someone only in their 40s.

>>149942027 (OP)
the only time i got pretty far in a /co/ project was that Glimbo thing. made a character for it. of course it never turned out to be anything but the threads were kind of fun.

I'm a mechanical engineer.
Comics and cartoons have nothing to do with my creative outlet. It's just the media I like to consume.

>>149946109
Why does it have to be good? Who cares?

Who says I'm not?

>>149946853
Link link link link link link link

>>149946944
https://youtu.be/9tGyqyLlBao

>>149946952
Nice

>>149946952
Neat.

>>149944432
Proof btw
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/montana-sunset-the-hobo-samurai-/list?title_no=714929

>>149942027 (OP)
To quote the great philosopher, Christian Weston Sonichu Chandler
I'm workin on it

I'm like 15 years in on this shit. Story is written and complete. I even formatted it as a comic script. Still, I doubt I'll ever get any further than I am right now. Money is only thing I lack to keep it going.

>>149948086
Please don’t give up, it looks awesome from the art

>>149942027 (OP)
Do you have any idea how long it takes to make animation? Let alone animation that is actually worth a damn?

>>149942027 (OP)
Honestly? Because my art is shit. Complete shit that I'm humiliated by. Like never show it to anyone shit. I can draw static characters but when I try to do anything with posing, perspective, etc. it looks just like what I was drawing in high scool 22 years ago. Not to mention my inability to do shadows, clothing folds, etc. I wish I had gone to art school to get the skills but know there's no money in this.

>>149948086
Moar? ^-^ It looks good like something you would see on a early 00s cartoon

>>149949302
It doesnt matter how awesome it looks or is. I've given nearly everything I have to give to make this a reality. It on the shelf now, probably for good.

>>149949514
There ain't much more to show, and the art style has changed anyway over the reworking and revisions. All in all, this will probably be the only place this ever appears.

>>149942027 (OP)
I don't have the means nor am in the industry to be able to create content.

>>149942027 (OP)
Because I'm a hack

>>149942027 (OP)
I finally started to draw some kind of comic, it will probably be pretty crude (awful) and I still don't have any kind of clear plot yet but it is nice to draw.

>>149948086
>>149949671
Those look absolutely fabulous, like professional level good. I really love the golem design.

>>149944967
>>149945842
Just wanted to say that I'm a long time fan, Magi.
>well, have you been to "how is your webcomic" thread?
Has there been any HIYWC threads lately? I have mostly seen General Drawthreads.

>>149944610
Currently making good progress right now. Halfway done with my second page.

>>149950153
>I really love the golem design.
Thank you

I'm working on it, it's just slow. I can draw at a reasonably professional level, but the story doesn't come to me as easily and that needs to be done before I can get to the actually fun part, so I find myself slowly chipping away at multiple treatments over time between bouts of dragging my feet. I have friends that like to write and aren't necessarily bad at it, but I'd rather shit broken glass than have them write the story for me cuz every time I try to brainstorm with them the only ideas they present to me seem carefully-crafted in the interest of making whatever I'm working on the exact polar opposite of what it's supposed to be. I'm barely exaggerating when I say that if Jim Davis was working with my friends they'd do everything in their power to turn Garfield into Breaking Bad, and if Alan Moore was working with them they'd turn Watchmen into Garfield. I swear they do it on purpose to annoy me, because that's the only way I can imagine where I can present them with the most noncerebral, uncomplicated, nothing to understand ideas I can come up with, and people that not only are not usually fucking stupid but are in fact usually smarter than me still find ways to misunderstand them

>>149942326
>>149942601
that's not how autism works

I don't want to put in the effort. I'm fine with just coming up with ideas while on my daily walks or roaming around doing other things. Anything beyond that just isn't fun anymore

Bump

>>149942027 (OP)
I'm too lazy to even consume much content these days

>>149952291
Try and consume it alongside other things. You can watch something while you eat. I know it's not /co/ but I listen to audiobooks while I cook or do chores

>>149942027 (OP)
There's really nowhere to post original content anymore.
Every search engine is against you.
Every art hosting site is against you or just using your content to train AI or both
Every social media site is just people peddling their politics and will project their insecurities on your content.
The internet has become insanely hostile towards people making their own websites.
In general, everything you produce will just get eaten into the AI hivemind anyway
Publishers will never take a risk on a literal who series or worse if they do take interest they can just...take the rights, never use it and lock you from using your own idea.
Now payment processors are cracking down on anything remotely problematic so if you want to make money off your work, it better be sterile and unoffensive.

Like, it feels like this is the lowest point the internet has ever been in and it's honestly only going to get worse.

>>149942326
We're all glad you’re not drawing. You should try killing yourself instead.

>>149942326
That's why Adderall was invented

>>149942027 (OP)
I been making a comic about aliens in a comedy show, but I'm found out I'm not that funny, so I'm putting it off until I can find better material and techniques.

I want to do other stuff instead, like something with robots or the occult, but now I have the trouble of writing a compelling story to go with it

>>149942555
Yeah I've sort of figured out during my "art" "career" that a lot of it is actually anything but doing art like business/growing on social media. Really put a stop to my love for the hobby. So now I treat it more as something to do for myself that may or may not grow into something bigger. Probably never going to treat it as a job though.

>>149952291
>>149953326
I wouldn't recommend that, at least not all the time, dulls the senses looking and doing too many things
The best way I do it is just to sort of make a routine out of it, and make it as easy to do, or at least something you like doing everyday.
For example, every other day I make myself some popcorn and grab a drink and watch a movie from my backlog (if I can't choose i just go with the one I feel like doing the most or just random number generator) and it's has made me watch quite a bit recently.

>>149953369
Go visit a major city and plaster eye catching stickers with QR codes linking to your work

>>149942027 (OP)
I doodle all the time, dont watch shit for cartoons. Cartoons ads gay

>>149942027 (OP)
I am not very talented or smart

>>149942027 (OP)
I'm almost ten years in on my webcomic. I've written others in that timeframe with one getting published, wrote for a video game and did small assistance on some indie cartoons (mostly script revisions).

I'm honestly just really bad at self shilling.

>>149942027 (OP)
creating things takes time and effort and dealing with a lot of failure in a constructive way. if most anons had that level of discipline, they wouldn't be here that often.

im worse, I create without consuming so idk what im doing

>>149953369
Even 4chan is against you. Your options are either getting told to buy an ad, post in a thread with no people, or post in a literal porn board

>>149953369
come to newgrounds

>>149956216
OC content does worse on Newgrounds unless it's an animation or game. If you're doing a comic then good fuckin luck getting a readership there.

>>149950496
Well what’s the idea anon maybe we can. Help

>>149942027 (OP)
>Why the fuck do you consume so much /co/ntent instead of creating it?
I'm too selfish and egotistical to work for others/let others touch my work

I've actually stopped reading comics while I work on mine so I don't accidentally rip off someone else's work

>>149942027 (OP)
making comics or cartoons isn't for the average Joe. it's for the few and far between... the select Elite super chads.

>>149957170
> Elite super chads.
You mean nepo babies

>>149942082
find someone who can and write for them

>>149957177
Artists aren't cheap.
Do I look like I can hire a full time animator for a monthly salary of 5k or more?

>>149956649
Don't be afraid to steal ideas, literally everyone does it. Star Wars is basically just Flash Gordon with the serial numbers filed off, George Lucas just also made sure to include influences from old westerns, World War II, and 1950s America, that's what makes it different enough that nobody cares. If you make a comic about a hotel for monsters, the fact that someone's gonna call it a ripoff of Hotel Transylvania is no reason to never watch Hotel Transylvania, if anything doing so will give you a better idea of what to do to make yours different, so once you do that then whoever treats you like they're blowing the lid off some heist you pulled can fuck right off

>>149942027 (OP)

Do you have any fucking idea how much work it is to actually draw a comic? Let alone a cartoon? No? I didn't think you would.

>>149942027 (OP)
i make stuff sometimes, but doing a few drawings and daydreaming about the characters is enough to satisfy my creative itch, i don't dwell as much as i'll like

>>149957320
A few hours of grit and rolled up sleeves

>>149942027 (OP)
>Why the fuck do you consume so much /co/ntent instead of creating it?
>>149942082
>>149957320
>>149957378
>>149957404

got a job that requires 40 hours of my time a week on top of a lot of other activities I've invested in has left me with only doodling my autistic fixation when applicable... one day I'll post a sockpuppet account and just drop everything on it.
>>149956649
>>149956663
I love these.
>>149957378
feel this whenever i take 2 minutes to draw something like pic related.

I've been working my ass off the last couple of weeks and I'm going on vacation next week

Hell I haven't even been on 4chan since I've been busy. I'm just been happy to at least get this done

>>149944432
>>149947933
oh shit nice to see your work again anon, keep going

>>149957176
you don't have to be a nepo baby to draw.

>>149942027 (OP)
To all the creators in this thread, is the satisfaction of finishing your project the way you want enough for you, or do you feel like external stuff (a big fanbase, money, etc) are what would truly satisfy you? I guess that depends more on the individual, but still

>>149957756
>(a big fanbase, money, etc)
Well realistically I'd at the bare minimum like to make at least a few thousand dollars, but even that is kind of unrealistic especially as a solo artist. I'd at least like to have some level of conversation around my media piece and I don't think I'd need a stupidly large fanbase for it.
All I hope is that the series literally doesn't get no views at all.
I feel like it would be pointless to put my ideas on paper only to have them be ignored by literally everyone

>>149954148
damn shit looks cool as hell anon, I hope it's been a career you've enjoyed

>>149957176
you can literally make a comic in your room anon

>>149957802
>I feel like it would be pointless to put my ideas on paper only to have them be ignored by literally everyone
As someone who's made some youtube videos it's amazing to even one person and comment about your work and connecting to it on some level. I feel like if you're consistently making comics, then it's almost impossible to not have at least a few people talk and interact with it. But even then, I feel like being able to bring your vision to life should be more important as a goal

>>149942027 (OP)
because i don't want to

additionally, one of the things I kept advocating for is to start disregarding canon and make things to fit your own needs

>>149950153
thanks! I thought there was at least 1 thread this month, but they have been having trouble being kept up recently. Those pencil art are so clean!

>>149957756
I never really had an interest of making money off my art (not saying I won't, it just I've always felt weird about it)
I do want people to like my art though, my stuff is usually very niche so it'll probably get small fanbases, which I'm fine with.

Overall, working and finishing projects are my main priority when doing art. I mean just getting the chance to draw at all is always nice. Just something that scratches the brain I guess

>>149957804
I wouldn't say it's a career but I think of it more as a hobby cause I sparingly make money from it. Most I've made from my work has probably been 1k every few months for writing one indie comic that's an ongoing. I won't be quitting my day job anytime soon cause I enjoy stable income.

>>149957756
Honestly I used to put a lot of my self worth into my comics thinking that the external stuff (fan base mostly) would bring me joy. It honestly made me more miserable when that wasn't the case cause I've written almost ten comics now and only ONE caught on with a somewhat consistent fanbase. I changed up my mindset to not view this as something to gain fame but just cause I liked writing stories. I have more fun making the comics than I do posting them nowadays.

>>149957683
Nice use of darks.

>>149958187
Where can I read more?

>>149942027 (OP)
if you're talking about me personally, I'm trying to learn how to draw but it's going to take a while and it's hard
if you're talking about /co/llaborations between anons, last I saw was when /co/ make the I Know A Guy comic

>>149958343
>>149958187
Nevermind, I found it. This is quite good. Very creative. How did you go about finding an artist?

>>149942326
>autism
aren't you describing adhd? or add? one of those two

I do actually, but mostly only on 4chan can't be assed to go use another website.

>>149942027 (OP)
I’ve been writing a story but I super du-er suck at putting myself out there

>>149942027 (OP)
Because I prefer writing to drawing.

>>149957935
> one of the things I kept advocating for is to start disregarding canon and make things to fit your own needs
What do you mean exacty?

>>149942027 (OP)
I made this a day ago. Sure it's not that good but still
https://litter.catbox.moe/x2zb1u.mp4

>>149959185
in abstract, if you like something but its current creative teams isn't putting out something fits your taste, you should just make a version that do, appropriate it if you have to. I feel if more fanboy embraces this mentality we'd be a lot happier, and it makes it easier stop giving them money.

>>149944711
I hate this aspect of the cartoon side of the board the most, the comic side will atleast show interest in a comic if you story time it for them or atleast inform them. I almost want to find any obscure animations and make threads about them if only to spite the anons who do this.

>>149958434
Thanks anon but here's the link anyways

https://tom-n-artie.thecomicseries.com/

>How did you go about finding an artist?
I found the first artist (who did the artwork for issues 1 - 6 before switching to colorist role) on a forum back in 2018. It was for another project unrelated to this one but we kept talking and decided to work together on it.

The new and current artist I knew from a previous project. I helped out a bit on some stuff he was working on (a few comics that I WISH he had completed cause they were pretty good) and he expressed interest in joining the comic. I was putting Tom N Artie through soft reboot plans and he was on board for it.

>>149942027 (OP)
Not an original thought or idea in my head.

>>149942027 (OP)
I desperately want to create but I hate my writing 'voice' (it's very obviously that of an autistic man) and I cannot write dialogue at all. I simply do not understand how people have a conversation, even before you start trying to do conversations that reflect their characters. (Which I also don't understand. All I have is a few ideas for cool set-piece scenes and far too much worldbuilding.)

I can draw, I can even animate a little, but nothing comes from it. I'm trying, I'm really trying, but learning to draw turned out to be the easy part.

>>149956649
awww c:
>>149956663
awww :c

>>149957756
>Do you want to do it because you care
>Or do you want to do it because of fame, money and bitches.

I find it funny that anytime someone says this in movies and tv, no one answers that they do it for both.

>>149953455
For someone so hateful you'd think you'd just leave this site, yet here you are being miserable and rubbing it off on others.
Not a very healthy lifestyle Anon, especially being angry at people you'll never meet irl.

>>149942027 (OP)
You can't enjoy the experience of seeing something new if you're the one creating it.

>>149942027 (OP)
Same reason I eat burgers and fries without working at McDonalds: one I'd enjoy, the other I wouldn't.

>>149942134
>intentional
anon... they're doing the best they can

>>149950390
Just finished my third page.
This one made me feel like quitting and redoing the page but I managed to make it work.

>>149960699
>projecting this hard
Typical Birchy.

>>149961117
Sure you can! There'll always be something new to focus on or to better appreciate each time

>>149942027 (OP)
i wouldn't be able to handle my characters being rule34ified and would eventually blow a gasket

>>149942027 (OP)
I watched steven universe ( and now hazbin hotel) to get the lore of the characters I jerk off to on r34