Thread 149998650

Us comicfags need a little more solidarity. We don't need agree on anything or like the same things, but we act as if we're the only people in the board. We scoff and curse each other to death, which is fine, but then we try to sabotage each other's efforts. And yet, the board is filled with everything but comics. This infighting needs to be curbed.

>>149998650 (OP)
This is the Cartoons board, bub.

I've heard this place used to be more comics than cartoons back in the 00's

>>149998650 (OP)
Watching everyone shit on each other for what are largely matters of taste is definitely tiresome.

>>149999323
That's nostalgia. It was more 50/50, where today it's 20/80.

>>149999323
That was before the current wave of arrested development and man children flooded the board with every stray thought that entered their heads as it entered it and cartoon fags have a lot of stray thoughts. But yes there was a much strong comic presence back then. Oh how I miss Lantern posting. We didn't know how good we had it.

>>149999718
>that was before the current wave of arrested development and man children flooded the board
there is nothing that screams arrested development and manchild more than reading capeshit

Someone posted this when talking about "old /co/"(pre-2009)

>>149999579
That's not the problem. The problem is when people start marking each other's threads as spam and trying to get threads deleted. When they ignore potentially good threads while getting a bait thread like EvW to bump limit.

Every boards content and community are entirely dictated by whatever kind of people any topic might attract. If enough people attending a board can see the value in cohesion and well thought out threads and posts then thats how its gonna be. If the board is targeted by faggots and retards who see the topic as a way to shitpost and bait other users into responding then the outcome is obvious. The few times I see you people not acting out is if we got thread about porn the mods are also into, storytimes, off topic threads that are better than anything on its designated board. Its not somehting that can be just changed without fundementally changing the site itself, its all so very user driven.

>>149999751
Cope trannyfag

>>149999751
>there is nothing that screams arrested development and manchild more than reading capeshit
Outside of maybe missing the entire point

>>150000355
God I hate Avatar it has to be the most overrated show of any kind ever

>>149998650 (OP)
The only thing we need is a board split.

>>149999323
It was. Like 60+% comics easily.

>>149999664
You're remembering it wrong. You're also miscounting. Look at the Catalog right now. It's 10% or less comics.

>>149999718
Blackest Night was, without exaggeration, THE most fun time to post on /co/ EVER.

>>149999751
your post does

>>150000540
All we need is a board split. The cartoon posters act completely different than the comics posters.

>>150001012
Retard

>>150001012
I liked it

You can really tell this board was made and populated by weebs for a variety of reasons, but one of them is comics and cartoons being paired up together like one would anime and manga
And to be quite honest, I'm not even gonna complain. There is a connection, both have had a symbiotic relationship over the century, I would actually be sad if there was a split. I like seeing both side by side.

>>150001058
No, I remember having to wade through a sea of TT03, Avatar, and Ponyslop in the 06-10 era

>>150001118
Shut the fuck up dude. /co/ went to shit the first time we split the boars, we don't need an encore.

>>150001599
>Minor spelling error
Fuck.

>>149999999
>>150000000

>>150001599
>split the boars

>>150001599
>the first time we split the boards

Never happened.

WE NEED A BOARD SPLIT FOR /co/ TO SURVIVE. STOP BEING A FAGGOT MOD APOLOGIST.

>>150001575
didn't Moot not want to make this board?

what gets me is all the discussions are gone like tears in the rain

>>150002279
>what gets me is all the discussions are gone like tears in the rain
yeah this is what gets me too nowadays neither comics or cartoons get any real discussions

Even if it was just for 1 month I would love to see the comics side get a split off board as well as an /intco/ board for comics and cartoons that aren’t from the USA or Japan, because it would be the most surefire way to prove that the overwhelming majority of the problems come from toonfags that will not interact with shit that wasn’t broadcast on TV during their childhoods

>>150001963
Did he not? I barely know what went on back then. Apparently the story that he made /tg/ specifically for Warhammer is a myth
I also think the mods don't like this place or the mediums it's for.

>>150001963
I thought they got tired of the superhero spam on /b/ and the faux anime cartoons like TT and Avatar trying to find a place on /a/.

>>149999323
That was before cartoons became a more mainstream topic of discussion for nerds and manchildren.
Like, don't get me wrong, people did talk about cartoons back then, but comics were a bigger and already established community for way longer, and the idea of cartoon "fandoms" still wasn't really a thing, at least not the modern version of it.

>>149999323
That's also the reason /co/nrad's design takes inspiration from pulp comic heroes but has absolutely nothing to represent cartoons. He was made very early in the history of /co/, by artists who didn't care much for cartoons, and didn't expect that to eventually be the board's main topic of discussion.

>>150001078
Alright grandpa, let's get you to bed.

>>150001532
I like Avatar too, but I also feel like it's extremely overrated.

>>150001581
To be fair, I don't think /co/ was ever a Comics board for long, was it? I feel like cartoons just exploded in popularity once the modern version of the fandom became a thing.

>>150002958
I would've at least given him Mickey Mouse gloves or something.

>another thread of comicfags crying over no one giving a shit about their funny papers
Cartoonchads rule this board, never forget it.
Maybe if you're lucky, one day they'll decide to adapt your favorite story into something worth watching, after making the necessary changes of course.

>>150002984
I never cared about at all and it's audience were tremendous idiots impressed by basic bitch tier story yelling.

>>150003159
>anon loves birchyfunpedo

>>150002279
Fun fact: the guy and the comics are actually part of the tombstone and were made to look realistic.

>>150003159
King of trash mountain.

>>150003528
I think part of why it's so overrated, it was one of the first mainstream semi-serious serialized American cartoons.
And of course, nostalgia.

>>150003669
>it was one of the first mainstream semi-serious serialized American cartoons.
IT WASN'T! Not at all. This is one of the big problems with the audience. They always think their thing is the first or what invents it. A lot of shows had through plots and serialization. You had Conan, Pirates of Dark Water, Inhumanoids, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Ulysses 31, fucking Teddy Ruxpin. And there's probably a lot I'm leaving out or don't know.
>And of course, nostalgia.
Nostalgia is an issue now but it doesn't work when something is new and Avatar fags were insufferable out the gate.

>>150002958
>>150003032
I remember someone trying to get "Bos/co" off the ground like ten years ago

>>150003770
>Ulysses 31
Japanese-French co-production therefore not /co/ it's over
But yeah he's wrong. Plenty of serious cartoons with a story

I still like Avatar though. I feel like how Japanese gen x'ers feel when they saw the original Gundam

>>150001581
>Ponyslop
Pure 2010-so on.
I really think ponies were a huge turning point when it came to modern cartoon fandoms but of course we're not allowed to talk about it and its impact

>>150003770
Well, I dunno anon, I admittedly don't know much about history, but I don't think any of what you mentioned was really that mainstream.
It also probably has to do with the modern invention of the fandom.

>>150003770
Also, I knew there were other serialized shows before Avatar, that's why I said mainstream.

>>150003846
>Japanese-French co-production therefore not /co/

Well I wouldn't call it /co/ but my point is that we got a lot of shows with decent to strong continuity. And while we all know the story by now and hindsight yadda yadda, you have to remember at the time we weren't really looking to make the distinction. So I wouldn't pretend to try and call Starblazers or Robotech /co/ they were still serialized shows that aired to kids and both were heavily dramatic.

>>150003846
I said semi-serious, because Avatar is also quite anime-inspired, so there's a good dose of silliness in its DNA.

>>150003908
>>150003885
What even is MAINSTREAM anyways. A lot of those shows were hardly unpopular. Things weren't hidden or obscure they aired on regular television. The only difference now is that we had the internet were grown ass adults are free to talk and obsess over childrens shows. And that somehow makes it more "Mainstream" than shows before it?

>>150003919
Again, my point wasn't just about the serialization, but that it was both serialized AND mainstream, not many people know about the shows you mentioned, a lot of people know about Avatar.

>>150003959
Well, I think part of it was that Avatar came out around the perfect time for the modern idea of a fandom to exist.

>>150001935
>Never happened.
Oh and I suppose /mlp/ just coalesced from the aether, idiot.

>>150003959
Well, Avatar wasn't a failed toy commercial for starters.

>>150003961
>More people today know a show that aired in the internet age than shows you had to be around to catch from 30-40 years ago
My point is you're an idiot. They did then. Mainstream doesn't mean anything.

>>150003978
Fandoms existed before the internet did. Conventions for things go way back. The only difference now is the internet made it more visual but it always existed.

>>150004047
There's a clear difference between the old concept of simply being a fan of a show back in the day, and what fandoms ended up becoming as the internet made everything and everyone get more connected.

>>150004021
I do wonder how many of them are still /co/mrades, there were a lot of horsefuckers who didn't want any other cartoon at all

>>150004047
Also, the internet opened the door for a lot of people who wouldn't have gotten involved in things like conventions back in the day.
Also, come on, I'm not saying those shows you mentioned didn't have any fans, but Avatar was on Nickelodeon man, it was the first exposure to a different type of a cartoon to a whole new generation, and from a big popular network.

I blame internet celebrity faggotry. Get rid of death battle bullshit and that only would probably do a lot.

>>150004432
Toonami threads then too

>>150003542
What paedophilia?

>>150004483
absolutely

>>150003159
You know the most discussed cartoon this year was Invincible right?

>>150002958
/co/nrad is just a crappy version of The Spirit.

>>150005808
Yes, that is the joke.

>>150002958
>but has absolutely nothing to represent cartoons
Isn't that more because there isn't a good way mix the two, plus comic heroes have plenty of cartoons anyway

I still don't get why we have an /m/ board for mecha across mediums (/a/, /co/, /tv/, /v/, etc.), but not a cape board, when you have as much of it across mediums as mecha. But then again, if /a/ can't have their manga only board, one they want and ask for all the time, we are not ever going to see a comic only board. /a/ are not even getting an /ar/ board for older; retro anime. Most of the older; retro shit in /m/ is on topic mecha anime.

>>150006315
Because moot was into evangelion and code geas, but not much into other stuff.
This site has a shit community that infects others, so I'm always warry of something getting its own board. I do think about a capes board sometimes though. It's a huge genre.

>>150004089
Understand /mlp/ was a transplanting of elements of both /co/ and /b/. It was mainly the /b/tards who started watching it “ironically” only to legit fall in love with it who didn’t bother with other cartoons. The /co/ population were /co/ before and remained /co/ after. Hell, /mlp/ still has a barely alive legacy general founded by /co/mrades who didn’t want to assimilate and dreamed of one day returning to /co/ like fucking diaspora Jews dreaming of Israel.

That said, the /b/ elements really helped keep /mlp/ on their toes regarding trolling and bait. You couldn’t troll the biggest trolls of all. /co/ on the other hand has suffered massively in this regard in the time since. I get it, /co/ has always been kind of autistic, but the absolute zero-effort bait that I see Anons taking on a daily basis here is fucking depressing.

>>150006169
Surely someone could come up with a good mix.
>plus comic heroes have plenty of cartoons anyway
That would be like if they took inspiration mainly just from Mickey Mouse, with nothing about actual comics, and then justified it with "oh well, he has a bunch of comics too". It's a crappy excuse either way.

>>149998650 (OP)
I agree with your sentiment. That being said, I have never read a DC comic in my life. Pure MarvelCHAD here.

Would an all comic board be beneficial for all comics or just capeshit?
Would it lead to better threads for non-cape creator-owned, newspaper strips, self-published, all-ages, BDs, etc

>>150007131
people bitch and moan relentlessly that they have no where to go and talk about comics.
while it's true that LCSs are dying out and so is the direct market, actual sequential art sells better today than it did in what people here seem to think was /co golden age for comic books

tl;dr the discussions here are brain rotted which is what drives away the people who say they want CB discussions and then complain there's none to be had

>>150000355
Did that really happened?

>>150007764
>actual sequential art
Manga has its own board and nobody here is interested in Scholasticslop.

Comicfags need to be more aggressive, less petty, more autistic, and less schizophrenic. Bump each other's threads (unless it's obviously spam), make more threads, and stop combining topics into single threads.

>>150007131
Non capes would likely get plenty of room to breath at the very least. Capes are always going to dominate but when they dont have to fight cartoons and capes they'd get extra space.

>>150011428
I think webcomics would compete, because they're essentially pre-packaged spam/bait.

>>150010668
Hard to do when comicfags are more disillusioned by the medium than cartoonfags.

>>150003770
yeah but Avatar is the first good one of those

>>150011556
Thats because there's even more gay people in comics than cartoons, and people won't stop treating Alan moore like the gold standard of writing

>>150011586
Did you watch those?

>>150012137
Of course he didn't.

>>150009624
>and nobody here is interested in Scholasticslop.
The storytime threads for Scholastic books actually do very well

>>150003770
>>150012137
>>150012346
You guys are too smug this is why comics side is dead

>>150012402
I'd rather be smug than whatever the hell cartoon fags are.

>>149998650 (OP)
All right.

>>149998650 (OP)
Comics are bad & few are worth reading in general.

>>150013242
Wrong

>>150013267
Most indies suck. DC isn't worth reading the mainline since Flashpoint. Marvel isn't worth reading the mainline since like Marvel NOW! if being generous. Back to indies, they're taken over by bad licensed books or bad capeshit copy books that pride edge over quality writing. Yes I stand by what I said. Most comics aren't worth reading.

>>150013346
Still wrong

>>150013368
What a compelling counter argument, dumbass.