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James Gunn announces new Superman Movie
https://www.threads.com/@jamesgunn/post/DOJbSlbkfyR
Anonymous No.150184334 >>150186117
>>150184290 (OP)
Nice.
Also a superhero sequel not taking longer than 5 years nowadays, impressive.
Anonymous No.150184339 >>150184362 >>150184431 >>150184895 >>150185512 >>150192459 >>150194102
>>150184290 (OP)
>Power suit Lex
>Not mad scientist jumpsuit Lex
Anonymous No.150184352 >>150184405 >>150184407 >>150184439 >>150184949 >>150185621 >>150186123 >>150186189 >>150186536 >>150187195 >>150187627 >>150188660 >>150189897
>>150184290 (OP)
Superman gets a sequel 2 years out while The Batman has to wait 5+ years?
and The Batman grossed almost $800mil??
Anonymous No.150184362
>>150184339
kek
Anonymous No.150184405 >>150184468
>>150184352
Supes' good reception and it being the cornerstone of a newly born franchise gives it a priority spot.
The Batman got caught amongst WB regime changes, and given it's more auteur-driven nature, they probably allowed Reeves to take his time.
Anonymous No.150184407
>>150184352
Because Matt Reeves writing process is really really autistic

He doesn't write a first draft, the do his edits on the second draft. He writes a script and edits it as he's writing it.
Anonymous No.150184431 >>150184491 >>150184546
>>150184339
has Lex ever used a power suit in any of the movies?
Anonymous No.150184439 >>150184519 >>150185166
>>150184352
Gunn writes his slop fast and people eat it up
Anonymous No.150184467 >>150186215 >>150186346 >>150187638 >>150188511 >>150190626 >>150192142 >>150193962
>Man of Tomorrow
Snyder fucking won. Gunfags can eat supershit.
Anonymous No.150184468 >>150184478 >>150184498
>>150184405
>Supes' good reception and it being the cornerstone of a newly born franchise gives it a priority spot.
No, being written by the CEO gives it a priority slot. This is why all the Suicide Squad spinoffs was being made first too.
Anonymous No.150184476
>>150184290 (OP)
JUST IN TIME FOR INJUSTICE 3
Anonymous No.150184478 >>150185270
>>150184468
Cope
Anonymous No.150184491
>>150184431
To be fair he’s never worn the jumpsuit either
Anonymous No.150184498 >>150184680
>>150184468
Peacemaker S1 was made and released before Gunn was apointed as studiohead
Anonymous No.150184519 >>150184690 >>150186396 >>150188703 >>150189744
>>150184439
Why am I not allowed to like something? I like James Gunn's writing. I like his directing. I've been a fan since Tromeo + Juliet changed my life. If you don't, whatever. Go like something else somewhere else.
Anonymous No.150184520 >>150184549 >>150184557 >>150184590 >>150184802 >>150185539 >>150188170 >>150192955
>>150184290 (OP)
how come Lex makes the most advanced tech on earth but Batman gets the "smartest man alive" title by making grappling hooks and cars that Bane can fold in half?
Anonymous No.150184546
>>150184431
It was in the finale of the CW Superman show, but it was pretty much a shitty Iron Man suit
Anonymous No.150184549
>>150184520
Batman isn't the smartest man alive. He's not even the best detective. Detective Chimp is a way better detective than Batman.
Anonymous No.150184557
>>150184520
no one likes lex in universe
Anonymous No.150184568 >>150195091
>>150184290 (OP)
Why did James Gunn become allergic to subtitles in 2024? Just call it Superman 2
Anonymous No.150184582
I'm so excited
I hope Supergirl has a major role
Anonymous No.150184590 >>150186426 >>150186853
>>150184520
Isn’t it usually implied that Mr. Terrific is the smartest man alive, since he came up with the rankings and other characters believe that he intentionally places himself lower than he deserves?
Anonymous No.150184604
>>150184290 (OP)
SuperCHADS, we are back!
Anonymous No.150184640
I hope Steel is in this
Anonymous No.150184648 >>150184685 >>150184696 >>150186710 >>150189240
>Man of Tomorrow

>battle suit Lex

>Brainiac was developed for first movie

>Gunn kept saying "its not exactly Superman 2 / sorta sequel". Comes one year after 'Supergirl'

Thoughts?
We getting a Kal & Kara vs Lex & Brainiac?
A tease of the Legion?
Anonymous No.150184680 >>150185488
>>150184498
Right, and season 2 got fast tracked after he took over DC.
Anonymous No.150184685
>>150184648
My fanfiction is that right before Brainiac gets destroyed he gives Lex the plans to Solaris
Anonymous No.150184690 >>150184768
>>150184519
You can like it, but just like with Snyderbots you can't admit the flaws.
Anonymous No.150184696 >>150184732
>>150184648
I won’t be surprise if Braniac gets teased in Supergirl before making his full debut here.
Anonymous No.150184710
A Superman sequel? We truly are in the end times.
Anonymous No.150184726 >>150184884
>>150184290 (OP)
teamup against brainiac?
Anonymous No.150184732 >>150184857
>>150184696
What if it's like that one STAS episode, only instead of the collector its Brainiac hiring Lobo to retrieve Kara for his collection? Maybe Man of Tomorrow is how the Fortress of Solitude gets the alien zoo and Kandor
Anonymous No.150184768 >>150187270
>>150184690
There's flaws, sure, but he's still a net positive as a director generally. At the very least he's competent and knows how to write shit that general audiences will enjoy.
Anonymous No.150184802
>>150184520
Yeah I don't like when he's pushed as one of the smartest men in the world because that's pure batwank. I much prefer the more conventional jack of all trades, master of none but maybe detective work.
Anonymous No.150184819 >>150184849 >>150184912 >>150185797
>>150184290 (OP)
Heard that Snyderbots? That’s the death bell for any chance of Sneeder returning. It’s over.
Anonymous No.150184841 >>150184916 >>150185557
From Nicholas Hoult's page
Anonymous No.150184845 >>150184950 >>150184965 >>150186522 >>150186567
Snyderbros... It's over
Anonymous No.150184849
>>150184819
I thought that was Rebel Moon utterly tanking
Anonymous No.150184857
>>150184732
That all seems likely. I’m curious if Braniac will be a Coluan or if they’ll go the STAS route and use the Kryptonian AI origin.
Anonymous No.150184862 >>150184916 >>150185003 >>150185557 >>150186700
From David Corenswet's page
Anonymous No.150184884 >>150189246
>>150184726
>final battle against Braniac
>Braniac about to deliver the killing blow
>Lex opens a portal
>”BIZARRO COME TO SAVE THE DAY”
Anonymous No.150184895 >>150184926
>>150184339
One does not necessarily preclude the other
Anonymous No.150184912 >>150184957 >>150185451
>>150184819
Still won't pass Man of Steel's box office.
Hell Gunnslop will never pass Josstice League either.
Anonymous No.150184916
>>150184841
>>150184862
>I can eventually get a Hot Toy of Hoult Lex in power armor
Hell yeah. Looking forward to it
Anonymous No.150184926
>>150184895
If anything one requires the other. Can’t make a power suit without being a mad scientist.
Anonymous No.150184949 >>150185003 >>150185050
>>150184352
>The Batman has to wait 5+ years?
IT doesn't have to, Reeves is just a lazy fuck.
Anonymous No.150184950
>>150184845
They've already won and you don't even know it.
Anonymous No.150184957 >>150185493
>>150184912
No Sequel?
Anonymous No.150184965
>>150184845
It was over for Snyder the Monday after Batman v. Superman came out.
Anonymous No.150184978 >>150185036 >>150186691
Screencap this
>Lex Luthor is asked by the US government to be a consultant on the Brainiac problem
>Superman begrudgingly works with Lex.
>Kara and Steel are in the movie to
>Brainiac is defeated, the world is saved, but during the climax Lex shows his true colors and almost kills every occupant on Brainiac's ship. Lex is stopped but no one knows the truth except the heroes
>Lex is given a full pardon and gets his company back for having a hand in saving the world, he's now untouchable thanks to optics and government backing
>Lex also, unbeknownst to the US government, now has Brainiac tech at his disposal
>Stinger is that Lex is standing inside The Hall of Doom, newly constructed and built using this tech
Anonymous No.150185003 >>150185050 >>150188825
>>150184949
Seriously. How hard is it to loosely adapt a story from Dark Victory/LotDK/Year 3? It's not. Nolan did it in three years, and it's the best comic film of all time. I used to think Reeves was a perfectionist, but Gunn is proving he's lazy.
>>150184862
Kino
Anonymous No.150185036
>>150184978
Maybe Lex and Superman reluctantly team up because Brainiac is a worse alien. Bonus points if Lex originally works with Brainiac then realizes he's being used as a tool.
Anonymous No.150185050 >>150185137
>>150184949
>>150185003
Wasn't there a rumor that he or someone close to him was dealing with bad health problems?
Anonymous No.150185137
>>150185050
There were, but nothing was ever proven.
Anonymous No.150185154 >>150185184 >>150186460
why doesnt his suit have a helmet? Shrapnel, debris, or an unlucky angle when being punched around could seriously injure him or kill him. Is Lex stupid? Also it would look cooler.
Anonymous No.150185166 >>150185200
>>150184439
>Gunn writes his slop fast
It's called autism, his autism makes him write prime Stephen King level fast.
Anonymous No.150185184
>>150185154
It's usually protected by a field
Anonymous No.150185200
>>150185166
It's not autism. He writes for market. Autism is what keeps writers and creators from putting anything out because they're scared.
Anonymous No.150185270
>>150184478
Superman barely broke even. It didn't even beat Man of Steel if you adjust for inflation.
Anonymous No.150185436
>>150184290 (OP)
>thinking theaters are going to last another 2 years
Anonymous No.150185451 >>150185528
>>150184912
if it makes a profit for WB and the movie is good who gives a shit if it surpasses Aquaman on China
Anonymous No.150185488
>>150184680
Peacemaker s2 was announced beore he was part of DC studios
Anonymous No.150185491
>>150184290 (OP)
>https://deadline.com/2013/06/man-of-steel-sequel-underway-with-zack-snyder-and-david-s-goyer-517621/
>June 10, 2013 5:40pm
>I’ve learned it’s official: Warner Bros Pictures is fast-tracking the Superman reboot sequel with its successful twosome already in place: Zack Snyder reprising as director and David S. Goyer repeating as screenwriter.

>2013 was 40 years ago
Anonymous No.150185493 >>150186709 >>150186744
>>150184957
BvS was the sequel, also fastracked slop before you accuse me of being indian
Anonymous No.150185512
>>150184339
What do you think he wears under the power suit?
Anonymous No.150185528 >>150185573
>>150185451
If 670m wasn't considered profitable for a Superman film 10 years ago, 610m certainly isn't now
Anonymous No.150185532
>>150184290 (OP)
Lex wear a big buff impenetrable power armor after what the prison guards did to him.
Anonymous No.150185539
>>150184520
>Batman gets the "smartest man alive" title
He doesn't, he gets the "World's Best Detective" title, Bruce is at best, the second smartest guy, Lex has been consistently written as the smartest one.
Anonymous No.150185557 >>150185580 >>150186700
>>150184862
>>150184290 (OP)
These imply a teamup.
>>150184841
These imply a fight.
But the question is, which comes first?
Anonymous No.150185573
>>150185528
Different theater landscape. MoS released the same year a film as mediocre as Thor 2 could be succesful.
Anonymous No.150185580
>>150185557
First they team up against Brainiac, then they fight.
Anonymous No.150185621 >>150185685 >>150186532 >>150189555
>>150184352
Gunn is a fucking workhorse, man. In the 2020s, he's cranked out The Suicide Squad, 2 seasons of Peacemaker, Guardians 3, a Guardians christmas special, filmed the Guardians actors for a ride, Superman, wrote Creature Commandos, and did some writing on Coyote vs. Acme.
Regardless of how you feel about his movies, it's easy to see how he'd be placed in charge of a studio in the age where it now takes like 3 years for a streaming show to get a second season.
Anonymous No.150185633 >>150185770 >>150188665
>>150184290 (OP)
they need to get rid of that fugly superman suit
Anonymous No.150185634 >>150185720 >>150186077
Anonymous No.150185645
>>150184290 (OP)
>Twist being the subtitle is about Lex
Anonymous No.150185685 >>150185732 >>150194173
>>150185621
A workhorse or a hack who cranks out slop quickly
Anonymous No.150185720 >>150185732
>>150185634
Why is Kate Bishop supporting DC?
Anonymous No.150185732
>>150185685
Whereas Feige makes kino, right?

>>150185720
She's changing sides.
Anonymous No.150185733
Replace Darkseid with The Centre and this is what Gunn's Chapter 1 is building up to:

https://youtu.be/QaujYj2M4NU?si=ewVQot7QQMxcnNRE
Anonymous No.150185770 >>150185838 >>150186500
>>150185633
I do find it funny how the armor looks like how it does in the comic, but Superman has that very obvious movie-style suit.
My guess is that they probably haven't finalized the design of Lex's power armor in live action, and this is basically just concept art, but I can't imagine it looking that much different anyways if they're willing to show these.
Anonymous No.150185797 >>150185828 >>150185887 >>150186026
>>150184819
snyder wasn't gonna return either way lmao, i don't get the thought process that if this one failed then they would get snyder back, that's like thinking they'd get michael keaton back if the nolan trilogy failed 20 years ago
Anonymous No.150185828 >>150185887 >>150186831
>>150185797
Studios are not above that line of reasoning, see how Paramount is reportedly bringing Bay back for TF.
Anonymous No.150185838 >>150186500
>>150185770
the only way i could see the power armor looking different is if it looks like the hammer of boravia armor desu outside of that gunn probably already likes the comics design enough
Anonymous No.150185887 >>150186373
>>150185797
>>150185828
because they think Snyder was on the level of Michael Bay lmao
Dude went to Netflix and killer his career down there
Anonymous No.150186026
>>150185797
warned canned justice league 2 not because of snyder, because half the cast in the knightmare plot is black listed (cyborg, flash, mera) then the bad reputation of leto's joker, plus the original set up was the legion of doom vs the justice league but post shazam movies killed any chance to film it (aquaman2 wonder woman 2 and shazam2 and black adam)
gunn is somehow right about dwayne killing the snyder cut continuity (cavill)
Anonymous No.150186077
>>150185634
/thread
Anonymous No.150186117 >>150190471
>>150184334
And yet Batman 2 wont start shooting until next year, KEK.
Anonymous No.150186123
>>150184352
I'm sure they wanted another Batman movie by now, but I guess the script still isn't done. I don't know if Matt Reeves writes really slow and does a lot of drafts, or if he's been doing other movies all this time or what.
Anonymous No.150186189
>>150184352
Reeves takes his time and WB can only cope
its why he gave them The Penguin
Anonymous No.150186215 >>150191553
>>150184467
>Snyder fucking won
>snyderverse is dead
>aotd is dead
>rebel moon is dead
>tanked himself forever with BvS (pure garbage)
how? snyder lost so hard its not even funny
Anonymous No.150186346
>>150184467
>Snyder won, because Gunn took the title he wanted for a sequel for himself.

Damn, what next? Gunn fucks his wife, and snyderkeks will also convince themselves it's a win for them?
Anonymous No.150186373 >>150186420 >>150186480
>>150185887
It's actually somewhat astounding that Snyder still has rabid fans. Do they just pretend Army and Rebel Moon didn't happen?
And it's not like he's going to escape the Netflix hole after he's fallen into it. Adam Sandler has been in there for a decade, and not even Happy Gilmore 2 got a theatrical release.
Anonymous No.150186396 >>150187252
>>150184519
> I've been a fan since Tromeo + Juliet changed my life.
How?
Anonymous No.150186420
>>150186373
Snydertards don't watch anything made by the guy that isn't DC
Anonymous No.150186426 >>150186853
>>150184590
That's unironically what he says in the new movie - "I'm only third place because I'm running laps around the other two"
Anonymous No.150186460
>>150185154
Ego and vanity. He needs Superman to see him when he wins
Anonymous No.150186471
B-b-but snyderbros told me Superman was a flop...
Anonymous No.150186477 >>150186524 >>150186700
>>150184290 (OP)
I guess the implication of superman holding that screwdriver in the art is that he's working with Lex, so I hope the movie just stays that way and its not a "they work together for a threat and then fight each other at the end".

I like the storylines where Lex is just part of the good guys temporarily without a turn
Anonymous No.150186480 >>150186596
>>150186373
>Adam Sandler has been in there for a decade, and not even Happy Gilmore 2 got a theatrical release.
The difference is Sandler doesn't give a shit about movie theaters. He just wants to make lowest common denominator slop for the masses, and those people don't go to theaters anymore. Comedy in general has no place in movie theaters these days.
Anonymous No.150186500 >>150191458
>>150185838
>>150185770
I imagine it'll be a kitbash of the Raptor Guard suits from the first movie so it can be a practical effect. Who knows, we might get a comic accurate Lex suit
Anonymous No.150186522
>>150184845
We just need to rally support and we can get WB to bring back the Snyderverse.
Anonymous No.150186524
>>150186477
The two loose screws at Lex’s feet make me think that Superman just pranked him.
Anonymous No.150186532 >>150186575
>>150185621
All of his movies revolve around a gang of quirky misfits who come to terms with their flaws by the end of the movie/show. I like his stuff, but his ideas are pretty stale at this point.
Anonymous No.150186536
>>150184352
100% on Reeves. Any other director would have given you the sequel by 2023 at the latest. Gunn, love him or hate him, is productive. He will get you a film and show done in time.
Anonymous No.150186567
>>150184845
if you ignore the shizo wars, gunn still can hire him, both made a meme segment in rick and morty.
Anonymous No.150186575
>>150186532
I would say that’s true except Superman did make it better by having the quirky gang be the side cast. Superman is mainly on his own with his family, and even when he teams up with others by the end, he fights his battles himself.
Anonymous No.150186596
>>150186480
Naked Gun just had a pretty respectable theatrical run for a comedy in the current landscape.
Anonymous No.150186625 >>150186667 >>150186695 >>150186747 >>150186889 >>150187573
>Peacemaker
>Creature Commandos
>Superman
>Supergirl
>Lanterns
>Clayface
>Man of Tomorrow
Weird DCU so far but okay
Anonymous No.150186667 >>150186781
>>150186625
wonder woman too but yeah
trinity focused + green lantern
Anonymous No.150186691 >>150186747
>>150184978
So I assume in this theoretical scenario, Lex would either go around the DCU recruiting bad guys for his Legion.
Anonymous No.150186695
>>150186625
Good, superhero movies shouldn't feel like scheduled product releases, just make good shit
Anonymous No.150186700 >>150186745 >>150188666
>>150186477
>>150184862
>>150185557
Its both. They fight, team up, then maybe Lex betrays Supes and fights him again.
That being said, it’s on Lex’s best interest to save the world alongside Superman even if it breaks his ego. His reputation is on the gutter and he needs something big to get off this awful spot he’s in, no matter how much he hates Superman. And we know he’s gotta get away with crime if he’s ever meant to be a supervillain mainstay of the DC universe.
Anonymous No.150186709 >>150186744 >>150186823 >>150187179
>>150185493
It's a spin off you dumbass.
Anonymous No.150186710 >>150186813
>>150184648
I think it's going to either a Superman and Lex team-up movie or a Lex Luthor focused movie.
Anonymous No.150186744 >>150186850
>>150186709
>>150185493
BVS was the sequel
glad it killed snyder career
Anonymous No.150186745 >>150186800 >>150188666
>>150186700
I mean, unless Lex gets Lexor, I think saving the world is always on his best interest, considering he lives there.
Anonymous No.150186747 >>150186816
>>150186625
The time to do
>Superman
>Batman
>Wonder Woman
>The Flash
>Justice League
As your slate of films would've been 10 years ago. Getting weird with it and just making what feels right at the time is the right choice at the moment to keep things interesting.
>>150186691
What the fuck is Punchline doing there?
Anonymous No.150186781 >>150186821
>>150186667
>wonder woman too
>trinity focused
Batman and Wonder Woman haven't even been cast yet, sure they're probably gonna show up at some point, but right now the DCU is just Superman & Friends.
Anonymous No.150186800 >>150188666
>>150186745
Well he opened a rift that almost destroyed the planet just to spite Superman, so his idea of a “safe world” is him living comfortably wherever as long as Superman is dead.
Anonymous No.150186813
>>150186710
It’s not a coincidence that “Man of Tomorrow” could refer to either Superman or Lex. Or to the Legion.
Anonymous No.150186816
>>150186747
>What the fuck is Punchline doing there?
Subbing for Joker.
Anonymous No.150186821 >>150186917 >>150187140
>>150186781
i say this because zaslav told gunn to make diana a priority. A script is being written right now
Anonymous No.150186823
>>150186709
It directly follows up the events of Man Of Steel with the main cast returning and kills off Superman by the end of it. Thats not a fucking spin-off.
Anonymous No.150186831
>>150185828
Thing is, Bay had way bigger hits than Snyder.
Anonymous No.150186843 >>150186901 >>150186914 >>150186919 >>150188269
Man of tomorrow refers to the legion
Take this leak with a grain of salt
Anonymous No.150186850 >>150186938
>>150186744
You fools don't understand. It was always the plan for BvS to the sequel. That makes it all the more sensible for BvS to feature Clark just now learning about the famous vigilante who's been working for 20+ years and lives in the next town over.
Anonymous No.150186853 >>150186858
>>150184590
>>150186426
No one believes a D-lister like Mr. Terrific is the smartest.
Anonymous No.150186858
>>150186853
I do :)
Anonymous No.150186889
>>150186625
Also technically some of Blue Beetle I guess.
Anonymous No.150186901
>>150186843
Not sure we need the legion right now. Just use superheroes and villains from the present to team up against Brainiac.
Anonymous No.150186914
>>150186843
>The Batman will officially become part of the DCU
Stop already.
Anonymous No.150186917
>>150186821
I like to think that Zaslav didn't even watch or read about Gunn's presentation and just now freaked out when he finally learned that he wanted to make an HBO show about Amazons without Wonder Woman.
Anonymous No.150186918 >>150186943
>Supergirl and Clayface next year
>Man of Tomorrow in two
DCU off to a really great start already
Anonymous No.150186919
>>150186843
>Zaslav wants to avoid July releases
>Superman 2 releases July 2027
Sure is believable
Anonymous No.150186938
>>150186850
not true original superman sequel was metallo+lex (eisenberg)
warner ALWAYS wanted a cinematic universe, the difference is gunn started from 0, meanwhile snyder tried to change everything he did in man of of steel because it was originally a stand-alone trilogy.
the most notorious change is the fights slowing down in BvS and justice league compared to man of steel
Anonymous No.150186943 >>150186998 >>150187053
>>150186918
Getting a Clayface movie before Batman is just weird. I’m sure it will be good but it’s an awkward idea right now. Like Creature Commandos starting off the DCEU when you can tell it was a leftover from the old DC universe plastered on the new one just because.
Anonymous No.150186998 >>150187010
>>150186943
It is weird, but I do like the idea of setting up some of Batman's world before properly introducing Batman.
Anonymous No.150187010 >>150187019 >>150187038
>>150186998
Batman doesn't need setup. He's Batman. Everyone knows who Batman is.
Anonymous No.150187019 >>150187056 >>150187066
>>150187010
Superman doesn’t either. But imagine if we got a Metallo movie before Superman 2025.
Anonymous No.150187038 >>150187066
>>150187010
Okay I lied I just like Clayface.
Anonymous No.150187053
>>150186943
if you cannot use batman because reeves needs to release part 2 kinda makes sense. Specially if its cheap and horror is selling well these days.
Anonymous No.150187055
My guess, it's going to end up with Lex (at least to the public) saving the day and letting him leverage it into a presidential campaign.
Then when he's the President he does the whole 'outlawing superheroes' thing since Gunn wants to do New Frontier.
Anonymous No.150187056
>>150187019
Would be kino but you guys aren't ready for that conversation yet.
Anonymous No.150187066 >>150187148
>>150187019
>imagine if we got a Metallo movie before Superman 2025
That would have sucked. Superman 2025 was perfect in its execution of introducing the world. Don't mistake this for me saying it is a perfect film.
>>150187038
That's fair. I hope he's an actual clay monster and it isn't some weird metaphor or cop-out.
Anonymous No.150187074 >>150187141
so uhhhh....
whatever happened to the authority movie
Anonymous No.150187140
>>150186821
I need them to make DCU Batman a priority instead because I can't stand this shit of people asking for Pattinson's The Batman to be merged into the DCU.
Anonymous No.150187141 >>150187290
>>150187074
Gunn cannot make it work , got an script and it was bad. If we go by leaks Supes 25 had lots of authority characters and only Enginner surrvived.
Anonymous No.150187146 >>150187247
>>150184290 (OP)
>July 9, 2027
July this year was not the ideal time for this year's Superman movie and July won't be in 2027 either.

I appreciate that a Star War's movie could be sucking up Memorial Day and that the Mile's cartoon, Shrek and the live action sequel to HTTYD are in June but one of those will likely move or be so rushed as to have issues. Also, even Shrek has an upper limit and unless Gunn plans to make this sequel FAR more family friendly than Superman was, Shrek shouldn't be viewed as any more competition than First Step or Thunderbolts were, or the two animated movies this year, Elio and Smurfs, both of which turned out to be weak sauce.

Sadly, Miles star turn probably will make as much if not more money as last years film, assuming it's completed on time. But Shrek Forever After and most of the other Shrek films are not really box office competition:
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Shrek#tab=summary

Also, a Shawn Levy directed original SW film, The Fall Guy (which was a fun great movie) and Blade Runner 2049 didn't make much money, and no one else in that cast is a guarantee that this film will suck all the oxygen out of the 2027 summer for WB to not consider releasing this in June (or even in the March date that WB already has penciled out for a "WB Event Film."

BvS already proved that a March film based on DC characters could make multiples of millions for WB and other movies have done well in March.
Anonymous No.150187148
>>150187066
Creature Commandos already had a Clayface that's a shapeshifting clay monster, so I think we're safe.
Anonymous No.150187179
>>150186709
For what i understand, a Batman vs Superman movie was a project Warned tried to do for over 20 years. After Man of Steel, they were early plans for a direct sequel but ultimately they went with Batman v Superman instead.
Warner pushing for Batman in the superman sequel was rough, but a lot of the weird ideas in the movie were pushed by Zack himself
Anonymous No.150187195
>>150184352
It's easier to make a bad movie than a good movie.
Anonymous No.150187205 >>150187253 >>150187312 >>150187339 >>150187578 >>150187723 >>150188066
But the movie is a huge flop overseas. Even worse than F4. Why make a sequel at all?
Anonymous No.150187247 >>150187929
>>150187146
>BvS already proved that a March film based on DC characters could make multiples of millions for WB and other movies have done well in March.
BvS fucking cratered on week 2. It's not going to be used as a model. Deadpool being a hit in February is much more of a success story.
Anonymous No.150187252
>>150186396
Because it changed my view on what a movie can be. I absorbed it around the same time I first saw the Doom Generation and both were formative films for me.
Anonymous No.150187253 >>150187645
>>150187205
Because it wasn't a flop overall.
Also Superman is cool and I personally asked them to make more movies.
Anonymous No.150187268 >>150187276
As a huge Superfag I am sooo happy

We're finally free of Batwank
Anonymous No.150187270
>>150184768
The problem with ANY director doing their own scripts is that is a tunnel to start with and never changes.

Directors working from a script they wrote (and ONLY they did the writing on their own scripts, not putting a final polish on other's people's script, or co-writing a script with one or more writers, or re-writing a script with one or more writers - which is what, for example Ryan Reynolds is often doing - and Ryan is NOT directing any of these scripts for that matter), these films only really work when the director gets notes and ideas from the producers and studio suits and others. Christopher Nolan got to do The Prestige and Inception and Interstellar, etc., with few notes from WB because that's how the WB suits work with their prestige directors; that's not what Universal did with Oppenheimer and Nolan finally won that Oscar he so desperately wanted. Also, Nolan had his brother and his wife as producer. Gunn only has Safran, at most, and maybe some of his friends and his wife chime in here and there, but it's not the same thing.

So all his flaws are right there to see. There's a big difference between Superman and GoTG2 and GoTG3, and that's probably on Feige and the rest of the producers, plus the Disney/Marvel suits.

We're not getting that with Superman I or now this sequel.
Anonymous No.150187276 >>150187318
>>150187268
2027 is also the year of The Batman 2
Anonymous No.150187290 >>150187363
>>150187141
Leakers thought that justice gang was authority because they used code names for them and the leakers guessed wrong. It's why you always should doubt them, they headcanon shit all the time, even when they have actual sources,
Anonymous No.150187312 >>150187333
>>150187205
Box office environment is changing. Now that China isn't the goldmine for Hollywood anymore, domestic numbers are actually important again. Superman did great in the US.
Anonymous No.150187318
>>150187276
Not part of DCU so who cares? I also think the movie will bomb bigly because the momentum is lost.
Anonymous No.150187333 >>150187479
>>150187312
>China isn't the goldmine for Hollywood anymore
Boy that was a weird time period.
Anonymous No.150187339 >>150187354
>>150187205
because it make them money?
Anonymous No.150187354 >>150187377
>>150187339
barely
Anonymous No.150187363
>>150187290
..but engineer is part of 25?
Anonymous No.150187377 >>150187417 >>150187458
>>150187354
says you
They greenlight the sequel for a reason
Anonymous No.150187417 >>150187446 >>150187474
>>150187377
Zaslav will shelve this project if Supergirl bombs as well. And she will, because superhero movies starring women are constantly flopping. Especially now that the woke era is coming to an end.
Anonymous No.150187446
>>150187417
What cope will you come up with when they greenlight Superman 3 in two years?
Anonymous No.150187458 >>150187564
>>150187377
They also announced Muschietti's Batman on the opening weekend of The Flash and we've heard nothing about it since
Anonymous No.150187474
>>150187417
Fuck you, we're getting Lobo.
Anonymous No.150187479
>>150187333
It's crazy how we're not even far removed from big hollywood movies being co-productions with Tencent, like Warcraft and Venom.
Anonymous No.150187556
>>150184290 (OP)
That's nice. Hopefully it turns out better than Batman v. Superman, that god-awful piece of trash.
Anonymous No.150187564 >>150187760
>>150187458
i mean
this sounds like a greenlight to me
https://deadline.com/2025/08/the-batman-part-ii-start-date-superman-sequel-1236480458/
directly from the CEO and ready to film next
Anonymous No.150187573 >>150187592 >>150187602 >>150187613 >>150187632 >>150187642 >>150194075
>>150186625
why the fuck is clayface getting his own movie? Do they think what sony did with spidermans villaisn was a good idea?
Anonymous No.150187578
>>150187205
>But the movie is a huge flop overseas
An american icon did great in the US, and that's what matters most.
Anonymous No.150187592 >>150187674
>>150187573
Batman's villains are actually interesting unlike Spider-Man's.
Anonymous No.150187602 >>150187675
>>150187573
>why the fuck is clayface getting his own movie?
The horror genre is consistently profitable. And Clayface will be a mid-budget horror movie with some potential Batman tease.
Anonymous No.150187613
>>150187573
horror and cheap
Anonymous No.150187620
>>150184290 (OP)
The DCU desperately needs an update for their Batman and Wonder Woman because holy shit.
Anonymous No.150187627
>>150184352
The batcuck cope in the replies is insane
Anonymous No.150187632 >>150194346
>>150187573
A horror director came in with a script and since horror is cheap (compared to most superhero fare) it was easy to get off the ground.
Anonymous No.150187638
>>150184467
Anonymous No.150187642 >>150187700
>>150187573
Same reason the Joker was a runaway success, they're trying out low budget shit and taking a gamble.
Anonymous No.150187645 >>150187676 >>150187736
>>150187253
It performed far worse than its predecessors which were labeled as flops.
Anonymous No.150187674 >>150187698 >>150187739 >>150187749
>>150187592
>Batman's villains are actually interesting
Please, nobody cares about fucking Clayface
Anonymous No.150187675
>>150187602
I guess I could see that working. Would be intresting if they frame as a typical villain introduction episode but expanded into a movie and from the pov of both victims and clayface while Bats is solving the case in the background.
Anonymous No.150187676
>>150187645
They greenlit a sequel just to piss off Snyder autists. Because watching Snyder autists cope, seethe, and cry will never not be hilarious.
Anonymous No.150187698
>>150187674
I guess we'll see. I bet the film does well.
Anonymous No.150187700 >>150187781
>>150187642
Joker is a popular character that who has been in the public consciousness for decades; Clayface is not.
Anonymous No.150187723 >>150187747
>>150187205
Sunk cost fallacy
Anonymous No.150187736
>>150187645
Superhero movie climate was different back then.
Also, it performed good in the home market and with China money drying up that's a good sign.
Anonymous No.150187739
>>150187674
That's how I felt until Rebirth Detective Comics.
Anonymous No.150187747
>>150187723
This, they were going to do a sequel even if only grossed 400 million. The Suicide Squad is still getting content after flopping in theaters
Anonymous No.150187749
>>150187674
Me. I care
Anonymous No.150187760 >>150187794 >>150187838 >>150188250 >>150188318
>>150187564
Half of Gunn's announced slate from 2023 is already cancelled. I'l believe it when principal photography starts
Anonymous No.150187781
>>150187700
That's why it's a low budget gamble, people eat up horror shit
Anonymous No.150187794 >>150187927
>>150187760
>Half of Gunn's announced slate from 2023 is already cancelled
Only Authority, because let's face it, announcing it in the first place was a stupid idea.
Anonymous No.150187838 >>150187904 >>150188250
>>150187760
Yeah i think that thin slate is long gone and zaslav told gunn to get his shit together
waller is never getting the greenlight but booster gold will because its being done by the flag means death guy
Anonymous No.150187904
>>150187838
>the flag means death guy
Oh no, he's going to turn Booster and Beetle into fags, isn't he?
Anonymous No.150187927 >>150187978 >>150187996
>>150187794
What about Sgt. Rock?
Anonymous No.150187929
>>150187247
This is the problem with the way zoomies argue on xshitter and the interwebz.
Y'all have no critical thinking skills.
No one ever taught you how to write a proper essay, you were using Chat GPT tier 'modern tools' and cut and pasting wikipedia even before AI was a real public thing.

You also even stupidly argue against your own imbecilic point
>Deadpool being a hit in February
I used BvS as an example of a DC film. If I had used Deadpool or Black Panther, you idiots would scream "MCU"

I could have used The Batman, since it is a DC release and also was March, but The Batman in 2022 was hurt by some lingering COVID and lockdown issues, as well as the same DCEU problems that hurt everything else DC related released in some markets so I picked BvS.

The actual content, script, actors, etc. or their impact on the LEGS aren't the point, which you would understand if you could understand logic, zoomie.
Anonymous No.150187978
>>150187927
>What about Sgt. Rock?
Ngl I'd rather see that than the Boys-esque movie with gay Superman or another fucking Batman movie.
Anonymous No.150187990
I’ve got a great idea for this sequel: Doomsday should kill Superman to set the stage for a Justice League movie.
Anonymous No.150187991
>>150184290 (OP)
Gunn has no idea what he's doing and has no plan or roadmap. He should just ditch the DCU and make DC Studios a Elseworlds movie machine. Everyone gets what they want.
Anonymous No.150187996 >>150191631
>>150187927
>Sgt. Rock
Maybe it'll be another horror gamble. He fights nazi zombies or something.
Anonymous No.150188066 >>150188091
>>150187205
600 million dollars worldwide vs 500 million that F4 did. More money means good news.
Anonymous No.150188091 >>150188197 >>150189316
>>150188066
>600 million vs 500 million
The difference is not that big tho.
Anonymous No.150188120
>>150184290 (OP)
Didn't Superman effortlessly take down a lot of guys in green and purple armor though? How is it supposed to be any better with Lex?
Anonymous No.150188170 >>150188188 >>150188224
>>150184520
batman isn't even smarter than the riddler.
Anonymous No.150188188 >>150188321 >>150188688
>>150188170
Hi Eddie
Anonymous No.150188197
>>150188091
Both could've made some 50-100 mill more if Disney wasn't retarded and delayed FF. Blade's former spot was right there.
Anonymous No.150188224 >>150188321 >>150188688
>>150188170
Get off the computer Nygma.
Anonymous No.150188250 >>150189061
>>150187838
>thin slate
>>150187760
>Half of Gunn's announced slate
Not to defend Gunn, since he's an idiot, but BS:

They announced 5 TV (eventually 7), only Blue Beetle has no real news; 2 have been produced/released, 1 is in production (Lanterns), leaving Booster and Waller. Neither is 'already cancelled' by Gunn or Zaslav.

Davis, for example, is still under contract and people are working and being paid for a treatment and scripts for Booster. Penguin is counted as 1 of the 7 but isn't a Gods + Monsters.

5 Movies were announced; Paradise Lost was never a WW movie and was meant to be TV show; they are still working on it (which means folks are being paid for scripts, etc.); Clayface was added, is in production. It and a WW movie (one thing Zaslav added) and Sgt. Rock was added, like Clayface, after a script was approved, they've paid for Sgt. Rock script, all they need is a star and a director. It hasn't been "cancelled."

Of the 5 original movies, the only thing that's likely not happening at the moment is The Authority since it has no script AFAIK, not even a treatment. Swamp Thing has a script that's being re-worked. Supergirl is filming and Brave and the Bold has people being paid and Muschietti (sp?) is under contract and considers it his next project, after the IT mini series or the horror films that he's working on for Sundance (Paramount); once he finishes that Sundance horror, he's got nothing going on, so you can bet your ass he's going to want to start pre-production or other work on Batman and Robin. It's certainly not cancelled but probably won't release until after 2028 or well after Batpatinson II.
Anonymous No.150188269
>>150186843
>Booster Will be younger than most people expect
Please fuck be real. I’m dropping this whole universe if Kumail Nanjiani is Booster.
>The Reach are set to be the big villains of chapter one
lol, the main threats gonna be the villain of one of the DCEU stragglers. It’s like Gunn is trying to make this universe as much of a mess as possible
Anonymous No.150188318 >>150188360 >>150189061 >>150190922
>>150187760
>Half of Gunn's announced slate from 2023 is already cancelled.
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/dc-universe-superman-legacy-batman-green-lantern-supergirl-booster-gold-1235507426/

>Superman
released
>Authority
dead
>Brave and the Bold
being written
>Supergirl
finished filming
>Swamp Thing
being written, mangold needs to decide if he wants to film this or star wars first
>Creature Commandos
released
>Waller
got fucked by the strikes, being rewritten to follow peacemaker s2
>Lanterns
finished filming
>Paradise Lost
no news, probably dead
>Booster Gold
still being made, got a new showrunner
Anonymous No.150188321 >>150188392
>>150188224
>>150188188
character dynamics > batwank
the character who beats the unbalanced narcissist with a clear mind and sound deduction also just being smarter in general is redundant.
Anonymous No.150188360 >>150189436 >>150190427
>>150188318
>mangold needs to decide if he wants to film this or star wars first
What's there to decide? SW is dead while the future of the DCU looks promising.
Anonymous No.150188392
>>150188321
That’s just getting into the weeds on what it means to be “smart.” Which to be fair, is unavoidable given how cape comics treat intelligence.
Anonymous No.150188442 >>150188483 >>150188561 >>150189498
Have they STILL not cast Batman yet? Last I checked, they didn't even have a clear vision for what they wanted him to be.
Anonymous No.150188483 >>150188495
>>150188442
>Have they STILL not cast Batman yet?
Robert Pattinson.
Anonymous No.150188495 >>150188890
>>150188483
It's already clear that they're not using that continuity for the Justice League stuff.
Anonymous No.150188497
>>150184290 (OP)
It seems like a Lex movie
Anonymous No.150188508
>>150184290 (OP)
Superman looks like Bugs Bunny here
Anonymous No.150188511
>>150184467
Snyder has been irrelevant for like 8 yrs and the entirety of that universe is dead.
Anonymous No.150188527 >>150188537
>another pedo slop movie
Not watching
Anonymous No.150188537 >>150188575 >>150189934 >>150190159 >>150196995
>>150188527
I’m confused, does this board hate pedos or is it inhabited by pedos
Anonymous No.150188542
do you want to hear something funny?

rebel moon
Anonymous No.150188561
>>150188442
I think they're stalling until some specific occasion they planned for because of the batman 2. There's so much gotham lore shit leaking from the clayface sets, there's no way they still don't know what they want to do with it.
Anonymous No.150188575
>>150188537
It's inhabited by self-hating pedos
Anonymous No.150188577
>>150184290 (OP)
>Capeshi pedo
No, thanks fag
Anonymous No.150188645
>>150184290 (OP)
>another Superman movie before the new Wonder Woman and Batman, and before a JLA crossover

I'm starting to believe in the people who said that Goon wouldn't end up making a universe and only be allowed to use the Superman IP and some other minor characters, yup this isn't moving past Supergirl.
Anonymous No.150188660
>>150184352
Flopping is the new punk rock.
Anonymous No.150188665
>>150185633
they need to recast that fugly superjew actor
Anonymous No.150188666 >>150188792 >>150189103
>>150186800
>>150186745
>>150186700
Remember that Lex came to terms with clark during the final crisis and when he became superman in new52.
Gunn may finally use the smallville backstory where lex hates clark because they were once friends.
Lex will hate that Clark never told him that he had superpowers and that they could be changing the world with his intellect and clark's charisma.

in fact, does someone have the one shot of the crisis that came recently with lex not wanting to admit that he needs superman in his life?
Anonymous No.150188688
>>150188188
>>150188224
To be fair Riddler owned Batman a few times and he isn't the only one, Jason Todd did it too (twice to be precise).
Anonymous No.150188703 >>150189632 >>150189744
>>150184519
>I like James Gunn's writing.
How? HOW? Listening to Superman and Lois bicker in the mock interview for 10 minutes was so fucking painful I turned the movie off.
Anonymous No.150188713 >>150188757
Hopefully Gunn lets someone else direct it but that ego-maniac probably won't do it
Anonymous No.150188757
>>150188713
He's letting other people do everything outside of Peacemaker and Superman.
Anonymous No.150188792 >>150189103
>>150188666
>Gunn may finally use the smallville backstory where lex hates clark because they were once friends.
I don't think they were friends in Gunn's DCU.
Anonymous No.150188825
>>150185003
>How hard is it to loosely adapt a story from Dark Victory/LotDK/Year 3? It's not.
it's not but a screen writer would rather die than adapt a comic book
Anonymous No.150188890 >>150189103
>>150188495
I meant that Robert Pattinson is going to play the Batman of the DCU as well as the Batman from the Reevesverse.
Anonymous No.150189061 >>150189100 >>150189103 >>150190914
>>150188250
>>150188318
Making the Brave and the Bold when there already is a Batman film series is retarded, especially since Reeves' Batman is far more successful than anything Gunn has made for DC.
Anonymous No.150189100
>>150189061
>far more successful
Barely. Yes, Penguin was a critical darling, but it didn't even crack the Nielsen Top 10. And Superman did much better domestically than Batman.
Anonymous No.150189103
>>150188666
>>150188792
It would seem that Lex only knows Clark so far as knowing that he's the reporter that gets the most interviews with Superman, going by what he says while Supes is imprisoned.
>>150188890
>>150189061
Reeves is an autist that doesn't want anything supernatural touching his Nolanbats knockoff, and so far his stuff is just successful enough that capitulating to him is worthwhile. It's not good in the long term, though. You can't just wait for his series to be finished before putting Batman in your big crossover filled DC movie universe. What is this, the CW?
Anonymous No.150189240
>>150184648
Considering that it's called "Man of Tomorrow", seems a safe bet it will focus on Superman and Lex. Probably end up with them teaming up.
Anonymous No.150189246
>>150184884
Yes please, "Ultraman" already was like 80% Bizarro, just call him that, give him backwards powers and you got DCU Bizarro.
Anonymous No.150189316
>>150188091
20% is a pretty huge difference.
Anonymous No.150189436
>>150188360
Apparently he's always wanted to do a Star Wars film, one of his dream projects.
Anonymous No.150189498
>>150188442
I personally suspect he's been cast and will cameo in Clayface but they're keeping it quiet.

They can probably get 100 million just off a Batman cameo which is enough to turn a profit on Clayface if they really keep it low budget.
Anonymous No.150189502
>Superman II before Batman 2 and Secret Wars
Gunn might as well play The Flash at this point with how much he's done in the 2020s
Anonymous No.150189555 >>150189578
>>150185621
Gunn is about quantity over quality. It doesn't take much thought or effort for him to spew out his slop.
Anonymous No.150189578
>>150189555
As compared to the usual Marvel schtick like Brave New World or kino like Joker 2?
Anonymous No.150189610 >>150189743 >>150193588
>Here's your DCU Braniac bro
Anonymous No.150189632
>>150188703
That's the real punk rock.
Anonymous No.150189743
>>150189610
Unironically great choice, High Evolutionary was a kino villain.
Anonymous No.150189744 >>150189935
>>150184519
>>150188703
I like some of his writing, but it always goes a level too far that makes me roll my eyes. Good example was the recent episode of Peacemaker where his wife calls a guy in a store "Beaker." That was fine, but then he had to explain the joke and continue it on. Same with the ARGUS grunts bickering. It's like he writes a few extra lines per joke and it always kills them.
Anonymous No.150189839
>>150184290 (OP)
LMAO

The villains just always going to be Luthor
Anonymous No.150189849 >>150189914 >>150190523
The Justice Guild should've leaned more towards Justice League International.

Martian Manhunter instead of Mr Terrific.
Black Canary instead of Hawkgirl.
Keep Guy Gardner.

Blue Beetle and Booster Gold are coming via the shows.
Anonymous No.150189897
>>150184352
I pray The Batman takes longer to come out, I dont want to see Gunns awful take on Batman
Anonymous No.150189914 >>150190076
>>150189849
I actually wouldn't be surprised if the DCU Justice League movie goes straight into Unlimited or International where it's a large scale organization instead of the standard seven group.
Anonymous No.150189934
>>150188537
Take a wild guess
Anonymous No.150189935 >>150190236
>>150189744
I don't think Superman had this problem, the humor was way more toned down and it was more focused on the plot so it didn't have time to run the jokes to the ground.
Anonymous No.150190076
>>150189914
Sounds like something James Gunn would do. He's better when writing groups over individuals.
Anonymous No.150190136
I fucking hope this somehow ends with SupLex. I want that suit in live action.
Anonymous No.150190159
>>150188537
The word is watered down to another generic insult so both.
Anonymous No.150190236
>>150189935
True and I did quite enjoy Superman.
Anonymous No.150190427 >>150191323
>>150188360
Superhero films are also dead, mate.
Anonymous No.150190471 >>150190498 >>150190562 >>150190932
>>150186117
To put things into perspective, between the release of The Batman (March 4, 2022) and the current planned release of The Batman: Part II (October 1, 2027), James Gunn would have released the following projects, all of which he wrote entirely and produced, and most of which he also directed (the exception being some episodes of Peacemaker and all episodes of Creature Commandos):

>Three movies - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Superman, Man of Tomorrow
>One television special - The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
>At least two (possibly more) seasons of television - Creature Commandos Season 1, Peacemaker Season 2

He would also have produced:

>At least three more movies - Supergirl, Coyote vs. Acme, Clayface
>At least one extra season of television - Lanterns

All while becoming the head of an entire studio, and still having the time to respond to random comments on social media.
Anonymous No.150190498 >>150190932
>>150190471
He probably uses drugs.
Anonymous No.150190511 >>150190535 >>150192281 >>150199874
>Superman sequel already
>still nothing on Batman nor Wonder Woman
They should really get on that.
Anonymous No.150190523 >>150190565 >>150190678
>>150189849
Martian Manhunter muddies up the plot point of Lex hating Superman for being an alien, why does he go after Supes so hard but not a green alien with red eyes named "human hunter"

Black Canary can't fly so she messes up the group shot when they're introduced
Anonymous No.150190535
>>150190511
Gunn confirmed that a Wonder Woman (a movie, not that Paradise Lost series) was being fast tracked. Probably in time for the inevitable World's Finest movie.
Anonymous No.150190562 >>150190589
>>150190471
he's using AI
Anonymous No.150190565 >>150190606 >>150190632
>>150190523
Lex Luthor has a white Martian piloting a transport in his private prison pocket dimension. He doesn't actually care about aliens. He cares about aliens that people like more than they like him.
Anonymous No.150190589 >>150190932
>>150190562
You know, when I saw James Gunn was on Rick and Morty, I thought it would be a cameo. I didn't realize he'd be the dead ass antagonist of the episode that was designed to make fun of him and apparently put him on blast for making GotG vol 3 about Rocket Raccoon.
Anonymous No.150190606
>>150190565
>Lex Luthor has a white Martian
That wasn't a White Martian anon, he was just a random monster.
Anonymous No.150190626
>>150184467
What I like about the title is that it can equally apply to both Superman and Lex Luthor.
Anonymous No.150190632 >>150190983
>>150190565
Mister Handsome isn't a Martian, he's one of Luthor's experiments.
Anonymous No.150190678
>>150190523
J'onn never bothered him because he is not winning popularity contests all across the world.
Anonymous No.150190831
Betting that in the climax of the movie, Lex will reveal he actually orchestrated everything from the very beginning, Braniac's invasion and the government pardoning hin for his cooperation, all so that he can get another chance to kill Superman.
Anonymous No.150190914
>>150189061
batman is that fucking popular that can have 2 movies happening
Anonymous No.150190922 >>150190948 >>150190993 >>150191019
>>150188318
>Booster Gold
Why are they so insistent on forcing characters no one gives a shit about?
Anonymous No.150190932
>>150190471
>>150190498
>>150190589
He's one of those directors/writers that loves to work
Anonymous No.150190948
>>150190922
Glad to see /co/ still gets new visitors from time to time.
Anonymous No.150190983
>>150190632
Oh, I thought he was a creepy ass white Martian.
Anonymous No.150190993
>>150190922
So are you a Snydershill or a Marvel Studios shill
Anonymous No.150191019
>>150190922
Gunn is a JLItard
Anonymous No.150191323 >>150191469
>>150190427
The MCU is dead, none of the Marvel movies that came out this year will even make it to the top ten box office since 2020, which makes Superman's BO even more impressive because it was crippled from the lack of international interest yet it still managed to surpass all three Marvel films and make $650 million mostly from its domestic audience.
Anonymous No.150191458
>>150186500
Lads who determines the designs of costumes nowadays? I mean other than what the director and the company want. VFX studios? Or do they still have dedicated artists to this stuff? Either way most of the stuff now has been just ok. Not like overly dark or dumb but I dunno stuff just kinda passes me by and I don't have any real opinion.
Anonymous No.150191469 >>150191918 >>150191954
>>150191323
DC's second most popular character beating a bunch of nobodies at the box office isn't exactly an achievement. If it was outperforming films featuring Marvel's A-listers maybe you'd have a point. Superman was released a year after Deadpool & Wolverine and didn't even make half that.
Anonymous No.150191553
>>150186215
PLUS his daughter seppukood
Anonymous No.150191631
>>150187996
Maybe it will have the Tin Man, I'd watch it for more of him
Anonymous No.150191918 >>150192618
>>150191469
Deadpool and Wolverine was carried by multiverse fanservice though. The Marvel films that came out this year were mostly standalone and likely won't even make it any of the top ten 2025 box office slots, this was supposed to be a glimpse at the standard they're setting after Secret Wars comes out.

Superman and the DCU have the advantage of being seen as "fresher" and more novel compared to the 20 year old MCU, the fact that the movie made as much as it did without relying on nostalgia and in spite of the DC brand being thoroughly raped (literally in Joker 2's case) in the past few years gives it at least a slightly better future than post-SW MCU.
Anonymous No.150191954 >>150195617
>>150191469
>Marvel's A-listers
Anonymous No.150192142
>>150184467
>Snyder won because Superman is getting a standalone sequel unlike MoS
I don't get it
Anonymous No.150192263
I liked Ben but I had an easy time moving to Pattison. But for some reason I just can’t get into this Superman.
Anonymous No.150192281 >>150192363 >>150192520
>>150190511
I hope when the wonder woman movie flops it won't doom the gunnverse
Anonymous No.150192320 >>150192506 >>150201143
The fact that DC has so little faith in SUPERMAN that they're not allowing him a solo movie is bothering me so much.
Anonymous No.150192363
>>150192281
If Gunn hires a thick thighed titty monster to be Wonder Woman then it'll be fine
Anonymous No.150192459 >>150194102
>>150184339
He wears the jumpsuit while in the power suit. Have you never read a Superman comic before?
Anonymous No.150192506 >>150192831
>>150192320
This is already set to have twice as many solo Superman films as the DCEU.
Anonymous No.150192520
>>150192281
It'll doom solo female led movies in the gunnverse.
Anonymous No.150192618 >>150192690 >>150192717
>>150191918
> Superman and the DCU have the advantage of being seen as "fresher" and more novel compared to the 20 year old MCU, the fact that the movie made as much as it did without relying on nostalgia and in spite of the DC brand being thoroughly raped (literally in Joker 2's case) in the past few years gives it at least a slightly better future than post-SW MCU.
This is a retarded take. Spiderman and Avengers will make a billion next year while Supergirl will bomb. Secret Wars will make a billion next year. The MCU's Future is fine. Nobody gives a fuck about a Lex Luthor team up in 2027. Superman 2 will get raped by Avengers 2.
Anonymous No.150192690 >>150192780
>>150192618
>Secret Wars will make a billion next year
The year after that though? When the multiverse storyline has ended and Marvel has to go back to making normal movies again?
Anonymous No.150192695 >>150192811
>>150184290 (OP)
We’re really going in one big circle that led to Man of Steel’s conception in the first place. Whimsical Superman could have worked but not under Gunn whose goal is to copy mcu slop, in conjunction with his (and Safran’s) already underwhelming DC track record. Superman needed to be a sister movie to The Batman. A good looking STANDALONE product that doesn’t raise your cortisol levels from looking like capeslop.
Anonymous No.150192717
>>150192618
Superman 2 will get raped by Spiderverse and Zelda
Anonymous No.150192780 >>150192854
>>150192690
> Marvel has to go back to making normal movies again?
They have X-men with Hugh Jackman and Spiderman. Those 2 alone are guaranteed billions. Gunn has nothing but future flops on his hands. Gunn's Wonder Woman won't make 800 million like Snyder's did. His Supergirl is going to flop. Outside of Superman which barely makes 600 million Gunn is fucked.
Anonymous No.150192811
>>150192695
A Superman/Lex teamup is standalone though?
Anonymous No.150192831
>>150192506
Promises, promises
Anonymous No.150192854
>>150192780
They're either gonna have to recast Jackman or sideline him heavily for the rebooted X-Men.
Anonymous No.150192898 >>150192939 >>150193962
Gunn will continue to fail and Zaslav will eventually pull the plug
Anonymous No.150192906 >>150195274
I don't like the idea of Superman teaming up with Lex. Killing the food truck guy crossed a line, he's unforgivable
Anonymous No.150192939
>>150192898
Superman Returns was not a failure the sequel just got in development hell which is why Gunn finished the script for this quickly
Anonymous No.150192955 >>150193664 >>150193835
>>150184520
The list that usually gets thrown around is such bullshit. If you gauge it by actual achievements/inventions/innovative thinking shown on-panel/screen the ranking would be something like
1. Terrific
2. Ivo/T.O. Morrow (literally created life)
3. Sivana
4. Brain
5. The Atom (I don't care what anyone says, harnessing a white dwarf to be able to restructure your molecular makeup is fucking insanity)
6. Lex

Pretty telling that most are villains.
Anonymous No.150193588
>>150189610
He was already Murn in Peacemaker S1 (retconned to be in the DCU).
Anonymous No.150193664
>>150192955
Lex is confirmed numerous times to be the smartest by DC. Terrific doesn't even come close to having the accomplishments or impact on the overarching mythos of DC that Lex has to be considered the smartest.
Anonymous No.150193717 >>150193799 >>150195385
>>150184290 (OP)
Didn’t Gunn have a bunch of shit planned before doing another Superman? This feels like something that was moved way up
Anonymous No.150193799 >>150193828 >>150202169
>>150193717
Yes.
The universe is becoming the Superman & Friends Universe featuring Peacemaker
Anonymous No.150193828 >>150193904
>>150193799
>Superman & Friends Universe
As it should be. It’s fucking DC. Fuck Batwank.
Anonymous No.150193835
>>150192955
Sivana should be number one but DC doesn't use him enough so he definitely loses points for that.
Also Ivo and T.O. Morrow aren't that impressive, anyone can do that shit, look at Will Magnus.
Anonymous No.150193856 >>150193888 >>150193974 >>150194504 >>150198455
If this isn't Superman 2, why is it called Man of Tomorrow? What will it actually be about?
Anonymous No.150193888
>>150193856
Lex Luthor: The Movie.
Anonymous No.150193904 >>150193937
>>150193828
Batwank has been the only thing holding DC together for years.
Anonymous No.150193937
>>150193904
And enough of that. Time for the Big Blue to lead.
Anonymous No.150193962
>>150184467
>>150192898
>will continue to fail
>Zaslav will eventually
>pull the plug

You've been saying this since your Cult Leader got shown the door and started to con Netflix out of money and yet here we are, with Supergirl in post-production, plus David Coronswet and NOW also Hoult setting up personal trainer appointments.
Anonymous No.150193974
>>150193856
It's more of a Luthor movie probably.
Anonymous No.150194054
It’s another
>Thunderbolts*
>* = New Avengers
situation.

Man of Tomorrow*
* = Lex Luthor
Anonymous No.150194075
>>150187573
Spider-Man has like 3 interesting villains and one of them is just evil Spider-Man
Anonymous No.150194102 >>150194248
>>150184339
>>150192459
It's called a "speedsuit". All the best super-scientists wear them.
Anonymous No.150194122
Lex: "That's what YOU don't get Superman, I am the future, I AM THE MAN OF TOMORROW!"
Anonymous No.150194173
>>150185685
>A workhorse or a hack who cranks out slop quickly
He's the only capeshit director who's consistently good in every project he makes.
Dude is not a genius filmmaker, but calling him a hack is insane lmao
Anonymous No.150194248 >>150194503
>>150194102
Was Rusty really a genius scientist?
Anonymous No.150194346
>>150187632
So we're not getting a big transforming mud monster?
Anonymous No.150194503
>>150194248
We know he made the Oo-Ray, the Joy Can, and with Pete and Billy he made teleportation devices. Even if he couldn't figure out balding, he's still a genius.
Anonymous No.150194504
>>150193856
Legion of Superheroes?
Lex Luthor film featuring Superman?
The first film but now from the eyes of Krypto?
Anonymous No.150194554 >>150196997
>>150184290 (OP)
Why does the picture give slight homo vibes. Are we getting Superboy with his 2 daddies?
Anonymous No.150194697
People were speculating that the next Superman movie will be a team up with Supergirl, and turns out to be a team up with Lex.

Kino.
Anonymous No.150195060 >>150195385
>Another superman movie where the villain is either lex or zod
Anonymous No.150195091
>>150184568
Relax, it was Superman: Legacy before Gunn changed the movie to just "Superman".
Its just a working titles for the production
Anonymous No.150195223
Weren't people speculating Man of Tomorrow as the title for the MoS sequel? Feels like a subtle jab at Snyderbros
Anonymous No.150195274
>>150192906
If the art Nic Hoult shared is anything to go by, they probably won't be allied for long
Anonymous No.150195385 >>150195436
>>150193717
Gunn said the six year plan for the "Superman Saga" consists of four movies, the other two are speculated to be World's Finest and Justice League.
>>150195060
Braniac probably, like I vaguely recall Gunn saying he wanted to do Braniac and he would be a good alternative to Zod if the theme is meant to be Clark confronting his Kryptonian origins.
Anonymous No.150195436
>>150195385
I hope we continue to get Superman and friends throughout all these movies. I hate Marvel's approach where some characters just disappear. We're going to finally get the MCU X-Men after Secret Wars, but who gives a shit if they aren't interacting with Tony Stark or Steve Rogers and Thor. I hope Gunn doesn't make the same mistakes.
Anonymous No.150195617
>>150191954
Spider-Man, Avengers, and Deadpool are the MCU properties that still make money, and have made way more money than any DC movie.
Anonymous No.150196359 >>150196805 >>150198000
Lex will sacrifice himself at the end of the movie and to honor him, Clark will write a front page article calling Lex “The Man of Tomorrow”.
Anonymous No.150196805
>>150196359
Doubt Gunn will kill Lex off so soon
Anonymous No.150196995
>>150188537
It's all projection.
Anonymous No.150196997
>>150194554
>Why does the picture give slight homo vibes
Literally every superhero with their archnemesis
Anonymous No.150197900
>>150184290 (OP)
That was fast
Anonymous No.150198000
>>150196359
Clark could not write an article praising Lex after Lex shot the food stand guy
Anonymous No.150198455
>>150193856
People are speculating that lex is the main character of the DCU going forward so I'm inclined to believe he's the focus
Anonymous No.150198782
>control + F "el steve jobs de las pelis de superheroes"
>31 resutls

It really broke you, isn't?
Anonymous No.150198827 >>150198842 >>150198911
>>150184290 (OP)
>imagine getting outshined by a almost 30 year old cartoon show
Pedo Gunns version of both Superman and Lex kinda sucked and missed the point.
Gunns Superman is too weak and too effeminate because depictions of masculine and competent straight white male heroes scare liberals and Lex was overemotional and unthreatening to further push the "white men suck" narrative.
Anonymous No.150198842 >>150198998 >>150201119
>>150198827
It's amusing how these posts have shifted from clowning on the movie to palpably seething at how popular it is
Anonymous No.150198911 >>150198985
>>150198827
No live action version of Lex has matched the DCAU, he's peak for a reason. Hoult is still a hell of an improvement over that fucking Eisenberg embarrassment who was easily one of the worst versions to exist.
Anonymous No.150198985 >>150199007 >>150199033
>>150198911
Hoult is just clearly basing his performance on the manic and pissed off Morrison version instead of the Kojak DCAU version. Hoult even said All Star was the inspiration. It's hard not to see
Anonymous No.150198998 >>150201119
>>150198842
Chuds seethe. It's what they do best.
Anonymous No.150199007
>>150198985
Smallville also.
Anonymous No.150199033 >>150199069 >>150199271
>>150198985
Of course, I'm not disputing that. I like his version of Lex, he's the perfect amount of petty seething and smug threatening for the character. I just think it's a bit silly to ding him for not matching DCAU Lex.
Anonymous No.150199069 >>150199271
>>150199033
Yeah, I'd agree. I would have liked to see them try DCAU Lex but they nailed what they were going for. Hoult definitely wouldn't be the guy if they were trying to do DCAU, I actually think Cavill would have been a great choice if that's what they went for.
Anonymous No.150199257 >>150199303
Imagine Lex trying to give Superman commands and Superman is confused.
Anonymous No.150199271
>>150199033
>>150199069
DCAU Supe and Lex are much sterner characters. DCU Supe has a good two shoes "gee whiz" demeanor while Lex is more outwardly spiteful than their animated counterparts. I do think Cavill could have pulled off a more mellowed out and stern Superman like the DCAU but Corenswet is also great.
Anonymous No.150199303
>>150199257
kek
Anonymous No.150199874
>>150190511
Gunn needs to stay away from those two and WB probably knows it, The Batman 2 still needs to come out and the Penguin show is better than anything Gunn will ever write so there is some hype for it
Anonymous No.150200203
The middle eastern guy gets resurrected but is now evil and Supe and Lex need to team up to stop him.
Anonymous No.150200484 >>150201007
Nicholas Hoult's Lex was a highlight of the movie so having him have a temporary team up with Superman is great. I'm sure he'll go back to wanting to kill superman immediately after
Anonymous No.150201007
>>150200484
They won the final battle.
Superman extends his hand for a handshake with Lex.
Lex stabs him with a shard of Kryptonite.
Anonymous No.150201119
>>150198842
>>150198998
delusional
Anonymous No.150201143
>>150192320
superman 2025 teased the whole justice gang and the antagonist is lex, this is why gunn used the "no more origin stories" excuse
if you think about it, superman 2025 equivalent is dawn of justice (teased the whole justice league, antagonist was lex)
Anonymous No.150202169
>>150193799
idk why people put these up like they mean something.