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Anonymous No.150195344 >>150195483 >>150195547 >>150195562 >>150195594 >>150195683 >>150196326 >>150196877 >>150197388 >>150205245 >>150207669 >>150207751 >>150209677 >>150210638 >>150210808 >>150210833 >>150218199 >>150244083 >>150244740 >>150245899 >>150252963 >>150255932 >>150258958 >>150262453
I'm still mad
Anonymous No.150195483 >>150195813 >>150197572 >>150252193
>>150195344 (OP)
A good thread died for this, brutally kys
Anonymous No.150195509 >>150195892 >>150196333 >>150208862 >>150218220
That Trixie didn't transition into a boy or that Timmy didn't stay a girl so her and Trixie could become scissor sisters?
Anonymous No.150195547
>>150195344 (OP)
>side character gets depth and shows interest
>promising start for a character arc
>series has no intention of ever doing that for anyone
Funny how the series may be episodic but it introduces new characters so much that it's not entirely the case and yet anything that changes any character is either reversed or forgotten at the end of that episode. And then the series goes out on a whimper with no fanfare.
Anonymous No.150195562
>>150195344 (OP)
i dont believe you
Anonymous No.150195594 >>150195906 >>150196379 >>150196629 >>150196962 >>150204261 >>150207884 >>150225949 >>150226880 >>150237939 >>150258958
>>150195344 (OP)
Season 2 was just a bunch of rugpulls. Imagine how pissed people would be if the modern internet had existed

>bait Trixie being a misunderstood girl with a love for comic books... do nothing with it
>make Vicky a skateboarder and punk-ish girl with a troubled upbringing... nah she's just insane
>set up Remy Buxaplenty as a recurring enemy of Timmy... ignore him for several seasons and mess up the reason he lost Juandissimo when he's brought back
>show Timmy accepting Tootie into his friend group... she never hangs out with them after and rarely appears other than to monkey wrench shit
>Chester's baseball background never really developed further beyond his dad's debut episode
etc.
Anonymous No.150195683
>>150195344 (OP)
I love Trixie Tang. Especially her with huge tits.
Anonymous No.150195813
>>150195483
Which thread? Do you have a link??
Anonymous No.150195892 >>150208862 >>150248836
>>150195509
>That Trixie didn't transition into a boy or that Timmy didn't stay a girl so her and Trixie could become scissor sisters?
not that anon but definitely the latter
Anonymous No.150195906 >>150195956
>>150195594
>>show Timmy accepting Tootie into his friend group
When did that happen?
Anonymous No.150195956
>>150195906
Boy Toy
Anonymous No.150196326 >>150205104
>>150195344 (OP)
It was honestly impressive the depth this added to Trixie, growth for Timmy, and how it finally gave her something in common with Timmy only for it to all be ignored immediately afterwards. Takes a special kind of poor writing to do something like that.
Anonymous No.150196333 >>150196996 >>150208862
>>150195509
Timmy should have just crossdressed as Timmantha instead.
Anonymous No.150196360 >>150196489 >>150200244 >>150208931 >>150217902
>Disguises as a boy
>Still wearing eyeshadow
>It disappears when she closes her eyes
Pathetic.
Anonymous No.150196379 >>150196385 >>150196437
>>150195594
>make Vicky a skateboarder and punk-ish girl with a troubled upbringing
When did this happen?
Anonymous No.150196385
>>150196379
jhonny tests neighbor?
Anonymous No.150196437 >>150196537
>>150196379
Hex Games, The Switch Glitch, Snow Bound (this one was season 3 but it was the final and ultimate rugpull for Vicky)
Anonymous No.150196489
>>150196360
>It disappears when she closes her eyes
to be fair this also happens most of the time when normal Trixie closes her eyes too
Anonymous No.150196537 >>150196954
>>150196437
>Hex Games
Ah right. Vicky used to have that little bit where she still hung out with the other kids sometimes even though she was a bit older than them. Subtle way to show she was kind of a loser now that I think about it.

>The Switch Glitch
Was Vicky someone with a troubled upbringing in this one? I thought she seemed more like a regular girl before Timmy started screwing with her.

>Snow Bound
Yeah this was a big shit into not just Vicky's character but her dynamic with Timmy too. I wonder how that happened. That they managed to get someone who clearly understood the value in writing developing dynamics and character only to never follow up on that.
Anonymous No.150196629 >>150196795 >>150197380 >>150225949
>>150195594
Vicky was built up to be someone who was going to try and discover Timmy's secret in the first episode, but it got dropped

Tootie was being built up to someone who needs fairies but also Timmy's help keeping them, but this was part of the plot of the theater movie that never materialized, and they invented the disastrously executed character Chloe instead waaay to late in the series to make an impact

Overall they rode the "Timmy must.... le keep his secret" bullshit too hard and it made the show boring and predictable by season 6. Timmy can never lose, can't ever get discovered, no real stakes, and so on. Characters that couldve easily been brought into the fold of the magic side of things were never utilized that way.
Anonymous No.150196795 >>150196958 >>150197380
>>150196629
>Overall they rode the "Timmy must.... le keep his secret" bullshit too hard and it made the show boring and predictable by season 6. Timmy can never lose, can't ever get discovered, no real stakes, and so on. Characters that couldve easily been brought into the fold of the magic side of things were never utilized that way.
yeah there needed to be rules to Cosmo & Wanda's magic so there could be structure and limits to what Timmy could wish for, but I do think that in the long run they overdid it and it stunted what the original show could do after a certain point, at least with Timmy still as protagonist(which is probably why they kept trying to shake things up with first Poof, then Sparky, then Chloe, and then ultimately with both of the sequel series jumping to new protagonists entirely)
Anonymous No.150196877 >>150199293
>>150195344 (OP)
>t. Veronica
Anonymous No.150196954 >>150196974
>>150196537
>That they managed to get someone who clearly understood the value in writing developing dynamics and character only to never follow up on that.
The craziest thing is Hartman's listed Snow Bound as one of his favorite episodes, saying that he actually likes when Timmy and Vicky have to work together.
Anonymous No.150196958
>>150196795
Its weird that they actually DID try on some level to have continuity, have other characters meet C&W, and so on... but it was executed so late or so poorly it just didn't matter
Anonymous No.150196962 >>150197291 >>150207846 >>150225949
>>150195594
dunno if it was S2, but i also miss veronica being obsessed with being like trixie/having a secret crush on timmy.

and no, i don't want to read that comic about genderbent timmy at lesbian camp.
Anonymous No.150196974
>>150196954
Can't blame him for favoring it. Protagonist+Antagonist working together, whether willingly or through force, is always a top tier trope (when done sparingly).
Anonymous No.150196996
>>150196333
You'll never get your trap x reverse trap needs forfilled, ever
Anonymous No.150197291 >>150229428
>>150196962
I don't blame you it jumped the shark with the weird sex demon stuff
Anonymous No.150197305
Anonymous No.150197329 >>150199746
Anonymous No.150197380 >>150197416
>>150196629
>>150196795
They had a chance to do this with and after Wishology but they rushed the movie and fucked up then like cowards status quo'd everything. Timmy going on adventures with his friends and fairies together would've been better than going on them with fucking Crocker occasionally or some other elderly person a gorillion times. Also the sudden and hard removal of Vicky and other characters. But really mostly Vicky. I've said this a dozen times, imagine the Hateful Fart Cartoon removing Mandy. or Frankie gone from FHFIF. It would be unthinkable that one of those showrunners would do that. But Hartman was next level retarded. Vicky was this show's main antagonist. Nobody liked Crocker outside of the writer's room or special ed
Anonymous No.150197388 >>150197402 >>150203329 >>150208957 >>150214626 >>150217929
>>150195344 (OP)
Smeet No.150197402 >>150197436 >>150202356 >>150203329
>>150197388
Ayyyyyyyyyy, you're a cool dude
Anonymous No.150197416
>>150197380
Sisters.. explain to me why the highest viewed A New Wish video is the one with Vicky....
Anonymous No.150197436 >>150201488
>>150197402
Whatever happened to doing the missing milk cartons?
Anonymous No.150197572
>>150195483
If it was a good thread then it would not be at the very bottom of page 10. Get kidnapped and tortured to death in a psychopaths basement.
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Anonymous No.150198710 >>150264517
Anonymous No.150199293
>>150196877
kek
Anonymous No.150199746
>>150197329
based
Anonymous No.150200244 >>150259251
>>150196360
She probably came to the mall in her regular outfit and then hastily put on the disguise.
What I can't explain is her going to the arcade full of other kids and showing no signs of worry that it might ruin her image.
Anonymous No.150201179 >>150201965 >>150205593 >>150225767 >>150259387
Smeet No.150201488
>>150197436
I've been busy and haven't really come up with a line up yet for the next batch.
Anonymous No.150201965 >>150202922
>>150201179
Is it still ongoing?
Anonymous No.150202308
Anonymous No.150202356
>>150197402
You should draw some more Trixie (normal or tomboy)
Anonymous No.150202922
>>150201965
Yes
Anonymous No.150202991
Anonymous No.150203329 >>150203958
>>150197388
>>150197402
should do a followup to this with Timantha also having huge tits
Anonymous No.150203958
>>150203329
>they're even bigger than Trixie's despite Timantha being so much shorter than her
Anonymous No.150204261 >>150205104 >>150205566 >>150206376 >>150207824 >>150218231 >>150218377 >>150221532 >>150248715
>>150195594
It's kind of odd that this show's fanbase has all these ideas about character development and episodic storylines, meanwhile Butch Hartman always seemed to treat it more like a Hanna-Barbera cartoon.
Anonymous No.150205104
>>150196326
>>150204261
Butch always did feel allergic to anything having actual depth, and his shows suffer for it as a result.
Anonymous No.150205245 >>150205571
>>150195344 (OP)
Mad over this?
Anonymous No.150205566
>>150204261
It was stupid to tease character development and then pretend it never happened. Even episodic shows managed to keep such things going in some way. And other episodic shows never bothered, undid the development in the very episode, or created a different setting to play around with it.
Anonymous No.150205571
>>150205245
Crazy mad, not mad mad
Anonymous No.150205593
>>150201179
I don't even remember how the beginning was but good lord the comic is a boring slog, even with the occasional porn. Another instance of a porn artist wanting their porn to be taken seriously.
Anonymous No.150206376 >>150207824 >>150232356 >>150237939 >>150261120
>>150204261
>meanwhile Butch Hartman always seemed to treat it more like a Hanna-Barbera cartoon.
I think the problem is that he didn't. FOP takes itself too seriously to be enjoyed as pure comedy, but also doesn't take itself seriously enough to be enjoyed as a slice of life. It's an awkward middle ground that frustrates everyone.
Anonymous No.150207669
>>150195344 (OP)
Why?
Anonymous No.150207751 >>150207837 >>150208489 >>150209013 >>150259183
>>150195344 (OP)
I don't get why people got horny for her in recent years. What's the appeal?
Anonymous No.150207824
>>150204261
>>150206376
No whats really frustrating is that he DID have character development and multi-episode spanning plots, just for shitty characters like Foop or Crocker
Anonymous No.150207837 >>150208971
>>150207751
>what's the appeal of a tall Asian loli rich bitch/closet tomboy
Listen to yourself.
Anonymous No.150207846 >>150207866 >>150207891
>>150196962
If I was Timmy, I would've been raw in Veronica the second I heard she was into me, I don't know what his problem was
Anonymous No.150207866 >>150207879 >>150207891
>>150207846
He knows not to stick his dick in crazy.
Anonymous No.150207879 >>150209835
>>150207866
>Cosmo, I wish Veronica wasn't crazy but still fucked like she was
problem solved
Anonymous No.150207884 >>150207907 >>150207968
>>150195594
I honestly blame you guys instead.

You read way too deep into something meant to be just an episodic cartoon. It never was meant to have some multi-episode arc storyline. I never treated it as such, so never had a problem with that.
Anonymous No.150207891 >>150214686 >>150218074
>>150207846
>>150207866
Veronica was at worst a bullied kid who takes out her problem on others. That was kind of my problem with making Trixie a sympathetic character, kinda should fix the whole "she relentlessly makes fun of and torments her """bestie""""" problem first
Anonymous No.150207907 >>150208044
>>150207884
No he's right
>Have Timmy accept Tootie as a friend in her first episode, even if she can be too much horny
>next episodes, Sanjay and Elmer are inexplicitly part of his friend group but not her, and we get an unfunny streetshitter being aggressively gay toward Timmy instead of a cute nerdy loli

And then the ratings tanked but you people will tell me I'm wrong...
Anonymous No.150207951 >>150208044 >>150208946
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO FOP CANT HAVE CONTINUITY YOU CHUDS IT HAS TO BE LIKE ANY OTHER HANNA-BANANA CARTOON OR ELSE KIDS WILL GET CONFUSED

holy shit you people are STILL on this grift? they fucking tried continuity and development in A New Wish and it fucking worked.
Anonymous No.150207968 >>150250610
>>150207884
People would've been fine with the bare minimum, something that other shows have no problem doing. FOP builds up characters and drops the development. Then it drops those characters. Then it introduces characters nobody likes and pushes them for a season or two before giving up and trying again. It messed up on every level.
Anonymous No.150208010 >>150208087 >>150208211
Fairly Oddparents was always shit, why does it have such a devoted autistic fan base? Is it Mexicans?
Anonymous No.150208044 >>150208198
>>150207907
Your usage of the term cute nerdy loli makes me think that you are a weird waifufag rather than the usual watcher.

Besides, if the ratings had tanked ON TOOTIE'S INTRODUCTION NONETHLESS, I don't think this show would have had the shitload of seasons it had.

The show went zombie much later.

>>150207951
Isn't that canceled already?
Anonymous No.150208087 >>150208198
>>150208010
Despite everyone dunking on it now, FOP is one of Nickelodeon's most popular and longest running series. It just lost that popularity the longer it went on. There's a reason it had a bunch of specials, movies, games, and two different sequel series.
Anonymous No.150208198
>>150208044
It didn't tank on Tootie's introduction, lol... in seasons 2 and 3, this show was beating Spongebob.

Season 4 and 5 is where they upped the flanderization and the show began to fall behind... though season 6 is where the cracks really showed. Wishology flopped and the cartoon never tried a full length TV movie like that again besides the Drake Bell stuff.

>>150208087
Don't reply to the Zimnigger, unless you enjoy couched raged disguised as bitterness.
Anonymous No.150208211
>>150208010
>why does it have such a devoted autistic fan base?
It got rerun lot. Like a *lot*.
Anonymous No.150208249
Invader Zim was always shit, why does it have such a devoted non-existent fanbase? Is it people who got knocked out in the parking lot?
Anonymous No.150208489
>>150207751
>pretty, popular girl who also shares the same interests as you
It ain't rocket science, man.
Anonymous No.150208862 >>150208957 >>150222788
>>150195509
>>150195892
>>150196333
>Timmy should have just crossdressed as Timmantha instead.
This, the two of them should've just kept meeting up when crossdressing
Anonymous No.150208931
>>150196360
It's not eyeshadow, he just has that condition that y'know looks like eyeshadow. Maybe insomnia.
Anonymous No.150208946 >>150209068
>>150207951
I hate a New Wish so much because it made care about FOP again just for it to get canceled after one fucking season, shit sucks, it got my hopes up and left me wanting more.
Anonymous No.150208957
>>150197388
What am I looking at?
>>150208862
Too hot, that was my dream as a teen. 3D Women are too gay to do it though.
I wonder now if Trixie was my first Reverse Trap, and if she was the one who gave me a taste for it...
Anonymous No.150208971
>>150207837
>pic
Oh, so I'm not the only one who thought she was doing a cool relaxed pose instead of reaching for Veronica's photograph.
Anonymous No.150209013 >>150209068
>>150207751
Yeah I found it surprising that shes getting a boom in Rule34 lately.
Anonymous No.150209068 >>150209165 >>150209204
>>150209013
a new wish brought a resurgence of vicky art, as well as tootie and trixie (even though they don't appear). honestly they should've just soft rebooted the original show, would've actually made bank

>>150208946
true... i liked a new wish, but the allegations of blackwashing and the dumb decision to make Timmy a fatass loser (then recant it in a random tweet) made things insurmountable. but its a good example of why the FOP story works so much better with a little more continuity and seriousness
Anonymous No.150209165 >>150209262
>>150209068
A New Wish only brought back AJ because they wanted to virtue signal online about how they were using a black voice actor to voice a black character. His design sucked too, especially compared to his other future counterpart in Channel Chasers.
Vicky was also a half-hearted cameo and they intentionally gave her a ridiculous costume to hide her adult curves. She should've been Dev's mom, dropped the ball bigly there. It felt like they had no idea what to do with the character.

I really don't trust modern day (((Cartoonists))) with giving a good age up design. Tootie would probably have be obese with a sidecut and Trixie would be fully trooned out. But doomposting aside, they could've easily been shown or cameo'd in ANW without outright revealing their marriage status. The cameos that did come all just felt boring and lazy, like Anti-fairies, and Foop's redesign sucked ass too. Only really Poof/Peri was handled right.
Anonymous No.150209204
>>150209068
>the allegations of blackwashing
That was the dumbest thing ever because Timmy and Hazel are two completely different characters, just manufactured controversy for the sake of engagement.
>the dumb decision to make Timmy a fatass loser (then recant it in a random tweet)
True, they did have a kid Timmy in the background too, but it definitely didn't look good.
I was also hoping that we could maybe see the "actual" Timmy in a possible future season, but we can't have nice things.
Anonymous No.150209262
>>150209165
crocker being there was also "Doofenschmirtz in Milo Murphy's Law" levels of forced
Anonymous No.150209677
>>150195344 (OP)
I'm mad someone would be mad at a Butch Hartman cartoon of all things.
Anonymous No.150209835 >>150232428
>>150207879
>Cosmo, I wish Veronica wasn't crazy
i wonder if there's rules forbidding curing people of physical or mental problems.
i'd imagine so, otherwise it's pretty fucked up that crocker and vicky are still around
Anonymous No.150210638
>>150195344 (OP)
Like how mad are you, dawg?
Anonymous No.150210808 >>150211386 >>150216736 >>150220225
>>150195344 (OP)
ANGRY!
YOU ARE ANGRY!!! NOT MAD, ANGRY!!!!!
Anonymous No.150210833 >>150210843
>>150195344 (OP)
fag boy wearing mascara
Anonymous No.150210843 >>150213923 >>150218001
>>150210833
It's a girl
Anonymous No.150211386 >>150216713 >>150216736
>>150210808
But he’s not a scientist.
Anonymous No.150212043 >>150225767
We need some Camp Sherwood here.
Anonymous No.150213144 >>150225767
Anonymous No.150213923
>>150210843
Or is it?
Anonymous No.150214626
>>150197388
He's trying to smuggle comic books out! Stop him!
Anonymous No.150214686 >>150217811 >>150218025
>>150207891
At least half of those problems are Veronica self-inflicted.
Anonymous No.150214913 >>150215917
This year is a good year for FOP fans
Anonymous No.150215760 >>150215779 >>150215842
Anonymous No.150215779 >>150215842
>>150215760
>IMBECIL!
Anonymous No.150215842
>>150215760
>>150215779
>BUENOS DIAS TRIXI-
Anonymous No.150215917 >>150227012
>>150214913
Why? Their distribution scheme was great for Latin America because all the good episodes were on Jetix/Disney XD and the shit ones stayed on Nick.
They accidentally provided a great service for a lot of kids and them shutting down is pretty sad.
Anonymous No.150216713 >>150216736
>>150211386
kek
Anonymous No.150216736 >>150218156
>>150210808
>>150211386
>>150216713
IDGI
Anonymous No.150217811
>>150214686
This.
Anonymous No.150217902
>>150196360
that's just what asian people look like
Anonymous No.150217929
>>150197388
Girl "boys" with massive saggy tits is a great fetish
he should wear uniforms of various sorts
Anonymous No.150218001 >>150218017
>>150210843
if it looks like a boy and you're wanting to have buttsex with it, it's a boy
Anonymous No.150218017
>>150218001
Stfu
Anonymous No.150218025
>>150214686
Yes she is a woman.
Anonymous No.150218074
>>150207891
A character can be both sympathetic and flawed. Trixie bullying Veronica is wrong but you can see how the fear of losing her status led her to do it.
Anonymous No.150218156 >>150218223
>>150216736
Hint: BAA
Anonymous No.150218199
>>150195344 (OP)
This episode is on the same level as shit like Passion Patties (though behind charlie and the chocolate factory) for giving kids fetishes out of nowhere
Anonymous No.150218220
>>150195509
>so her and Trixie could become scissor sisters?
so they could become HUH??!?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od7-fyGa9DQ
Anonymous No.150218223
>>150218156
Oh, I see. I need to get that cartoon out of my backlog.
Thanks!
Anonymous No.150218231 >>150228399
>>150204261
Except even shit like powerpuff girls and (early) dexter executed this better. Blossom kept her ice powers after that episode. Dexter kept a lot of it's canon.
Anonymous No.150218377 >>150222732 >>150228174
>>150204261
I always thought FOP was a silly comedy first and foremost
Danny Phantom was worse about it
Anonymous No.150220225
>>150210808
Okay “Scientist With Some Issues”
Anonymous No.150221532
>>150204261
*Butch FARTman
Anonymous No.150222732 >>150228174
>>150218377
it is. Anyone pretending there's "deep lore" is retarded
Anonymous No.150222788
>>150208862
I like how you think
Anonymous No.150223808 >>150225307 >>150226750 >>150229381
Anonymous No.150225307
>>150223808
this is straight
Anonymous No.150225767
>>150212043
>>150213144
>>150201179
We do just re read it with some friends myself
Anonymous No.150225844 >>150232480
sus
Anonymous No.150225949 >>150232527
>>150195594
Yeah god this was what prob made me connect most with FOP as a kid

I bet it was butch who cut most of this he hates consistency and anything continuity wise.
>>150196629
Wish we talked about this more also hate now everyone sees timmy as this super schizo brat when he really was a well meaning good kid in the early seasons and yeah s5 was hit or miss at times and s6 was the start of the end.

Also really same with chester with tootie both were good kids but mostly fucked over by life and circumstance
>>150196962
I do like veronica concept then they never bring it back ever again lol. Same with tomboy trixie so many great eps and ideas

Iirc s2 also did the fun 2 part ep from timmy then chester and aj pov. Also as someone else brought up wish they did more Aj and chester eps and basically friend adventures
Anonymous No.150226750 >>150261181
>>150223808
>didn't get this in fop
>barely got it in camp sherwood
Anonymous No.150226880 >>150228342
>>150195594
One thing I didn't like about season 2 was that they made Tootie go from an unwitting unknowing lackey of Vicky into just another kid she tormented. It was cute how she originally used her little sister as just another means to bother Timmy, but still showed heart because she had a "nobody makes her cry but ME" approach toward her sibling. Instead it just made Vicky look like a total psychopath and a complete piece of shit that belonged in jail, like Eddy's brother. That was the beginning of the end for her. What's worse is that even then they still did nothing with it.... I'm pretty sure Tootie interacts with Francis the bully more than she does her sister.
Anonymous No.150227012 >>150227991
>>150215917
Now Timmy and co can appear in future Nick games
Anonymous No.150227991 >>150228342
>>150227012
Says fucking who?
Anonymous No.150228174
>>150218377
>>150222732
there's no need for "deep lore", but having little smudges here and there of things that stick is fun.

stuff like timmy's imaginary friend hating his guts, anti-fairies being a thing
Anonymous No.150228230 >>150229307
Peaked expecting a SS thread FML COME ON /CO/ I NEED MY FIX
Anonymous No.150228342 >>150228551
>>150226880
>One thing I didn't like about season 2 was that they made Tootie go from an unwitting unknowing lackey of Vicky into just another kid she tormented. It was cute how she originally used her little sister as just another means to bother Timmy, but still showed heart because she had a "nobody makes her cry but ME" approach toward her sibling. Instead it just made Vicky look like a total psychopath and a complete piece of shit that belonged in jail, like Eddy's brother. That was the beginning of the end for her. What's worse is that even then they still did nothing with it.... I'm pretty sure Tootie interacts with Francis the bully more than she does her sister.
which of course culminates in the Live Action films seemingly forgetting that Vicky and Tootie are supposed to be sisters(but honestly LA Tootie comes off as them only deciding to have her be Tootie relatively late in the movie's production cycle considering how little she has in common with her show version in either appearance or personality aside from "is nice and is in love with Timmy", especially when compared to literally every other show character that appeared in the LA films)

>>150227991
>Says fucking who?
says FOP having a center stage role in the newest one that's coming out very soon
Anonymous No.150228399 >>150230362 >>150246245
>>150218231
Dexter's Lab was way worse. They just introduce cool characters like Vicky the spider girl, Mandark's sister, Gwen and becky, but no one really matters besides Dexter's boring friend group who are just "other nerds" as their personality. You aren't expected to really care about Dexter, his family, or Mandark, just as zombie FOP didn't expect you to care beyond Timmy, Cosmo, Wanda, his parents, and Crocker.

Early FoP paid more respect to it's viewers time in comparison. The side characters for the first five or six seasons mattered. I don't think the first few seasons had any characters that were truly "one-shot". Even those random singing villains from the hyper-safety daycare Timmy got sent to had like 3-4 episodes and played a role in the musical movie. The camp is closed down, and they no longer play a role in the series at that point because they serve no purpose. But randomly removing other characters that had built up only to have no satisfying conclusion to their story (Timmy's friends, Mark, or any of his love interests really) was just poor showrunning on all sorts of levels.
Anonymous No.150228551 >>150228585
>>150228342
>how little she has in common with her show version in either appearance or personality aside from "is nice and is in love with Timmy",
No, I actually think Tootie being something of an animal lover was hinted at in the cartoons and the video game she was in as well. It's not really that out of left field, but Tootie really needed fleshing out at that point if they were going to make her a serious love interest. The more frustrating thing is, they took all these elements they had built for her character (animal activism, needing a fairy) and just skin-changed them into Chloe minus the stalker crush, which I guess they kept on the shelf incase they ever used Tootie again which they never did.
Anonymous No.150228585
>>150228551
>The more frustrating thing is, they took all these elements they had built for her character (animal activism, needing a fairy) and just skin-changed them into Chloe minus the stalker crush, which I guess they kept on the shelf incase they ever used Tootie again which they never did.
I suspect that Chloe originated in plans to backport LA Tootie to the show, but they couldn't think of a good way to justify such a radical change(at least without the timeskip the LA movies used) so they ended up just tweaking the concept into a new character entirely, resulting in Chloe
Anonymous No.150229307
>>150228230
This is clearly a Trixie thread, bro.
The fuck are you smoking?
Anonymous No.150229381 >>150229413 >>150232691
>>150223808
We need this without tights.
Anonymous No.150229413
>>150229381
tights are hot fuck you
Anonymous No.150229428
>>150197291
There is no real plot to it. Also it kinda requires you to know every single character from every show and even then they're all out of character anyway. Still find the Trixie shower scene hot as fuck. Well both of them, I think she masturbates there early on then walks in on whatsherface doing the same later and joins in. Also dislike genderbending myself.
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Anonymous No.150230362 >>150230386 >>150232517 >>150232569
>>150228399
>I cant believe its not Trixie and Veronica!.jpeg

But I do wonder... how much overlap do the Dexter's Lab and FOP fanbases have? They are very similar cartoons. Around the time Dexter went to shit is the time FOP began airing. Both shows had creators that really just wanted to distance themselves from it (Genndy was ultimately more successful, but he still reached the same endgame of hackery as Butch). Even the lyrics to the opening and closing songs had "Doom and Gloom" in it. And of course the similarities between the Chin verse and the Justice Friends verse which Hartman also worked on.
Anonymous No.150230386
>>150230362
>Tootie but...... le evil
Anonymous No.150231433
Anonymous No.150232356
>>150206376
It never really took itself seriously outside of the TV movies
Anonymous No.150232428 >>150232519
>>150209835
>otherwise it's pretty fucked up that crocker and vicky are still around
There's a later episode where it's revealed that Crocker and others spazzing out about fairies is what powers Fairy World, which means they have to gaslight people as much as possible about the existence of fairies. It's kinda fucked up when you think about it, but it's post seasonal rot so it's possible the writers didn't
Anonymous No.150232480
>>150225844
Anonymous No.150232517
>>150230362
Wrong
Anonymous No.150232519
>>150232428
>Crocker and others spazzing out about fairies is what powers Fairy World
on one hand, it goes against all canon established in the past.
on the other hand, that's actually really funny
Anonymous No.150232527 >>150232678
>>150225949
It's a shame Veronica basically got abandoned after season 4, I liked how much of a weird loser orbiter she was, even when she was in the show she was painfully underutilized. Like with a lot of FOP characters, too much untapped potential

Also pretty sure she's the only female character we've seen in her underwear
Anonymous No.150232569
>>150230362
Most old cartoons have overlapping fanbases because they all were good just some stood out a bit better. It's why you have stuff like fusionfall, mystery kidz, camp sherwood etc. But you don't see many new versions of this hyper autism connection because most shows now feel like a island because they have so much lore you can't truly connect them to one another.

Though I feel better question is how much of Jimmy and Dexter fanbases overlap
Anonymous No.150232678
>>150232527
I again blame Butch, dude is notorious story poison less we remember Danny phantom was better when he wasn't as active with it. Then when he came in he made a lot of suggestions that really made the crews life harder. An not to mention those god awful comics he's been doing where he's just tossing in new lore.

Is she? also yeah I do wonder what FOP would be like if Butch either locked in and tried writing more consistent character or if he just let his crew do their thing as they really had great ideas but most of the best eps were made by crew trying new things and to mix heart into the ep. I still think of the popular 2 parter because it was such a weird thing at the time but interesting fun concept of seeing a day/concept from two angles especially in a more light hearted series.

Veronica definitely is interesting, she definitely was getting bullied behind the scenes by trixie and the popular kids. She's like the team bitch/weak link so desperate that she basically barely makes the cut but is the whipping boy. Honestly a good ep would be her gettting kicked out the group and hanging with timmy or timmy finally getting in the group but realizing how miserable veronica is without it goes from a popular girl to a emo loner since people would still hate her for being one of the "bullies" and him giving it up to let her back in etc. Or was that the popular ep ending and I forgot?
Anonymous No.150232691 >>150233665 >>150253152
>>150229381
Something like this?
Anonymous No.150232816 >>150234477 >>150234777 >>150237417 >>150251123
FOP was a strange case where the fanbase really wanted it to be deeper than the creators ever had any intention of it being.

Also I'm still made Tootie wasn't in Beach Bummed.
Anonymous No.150233665
>>150232691
That's great, Anon!
Anonymous No.150233701 >>150234819 >>150238290 >>150242139
Remember when Trixie first appeared and she was a small as Timmy? But, then ever other appearance she was taller.
It always bugged me.
Anonymous No.150234477 >>150237417
>>150232816
You wanted Tootie to get her spine broken instead?
Anonymous No.150234777
>>150232816
>deeper than the creators ever had any intention of it being
And yet they dangled the carrot in front of everyone before taking it away. And then proceeded to take away all the other carrots. And then dangled an obvious fake carrot to replace the real ones.
Anonymous No.150234819 >>150235092 >>150238372
>>150233701
I think you're misremembering it, anon.
Anonymous No.150235092 >>150235130 >>150242139
>>150234819
No, I am remembering correctly.
It was like one of the pitch episodes or something. Like from Oh Yeah! Cartoons.
Anonymous No.150235130 >>150235701
>>150235092
She wasn't in those, though.
Anonymous No.150235701 >>150235829
>>150235130
I swear to god, she was small once. Like, had Timmy's proportions.
Anonymous No.150235829 >>150237199 >>150237374 >>150237431
>>150235701
Are you perhaps thinking of Tootie?
Anonymous No.150236914 >>150237109
Trixie Tang owes me sex.
Anonymous No.150237109 >>150239962 >>150240749 >>150258793
>>150236914
Anonymous No.150237199 >>150237374 >>150238418
>>150235829
Naw, dawg. Trixie, straight up.
It's like one of those instances when they change what was originally put out.
I swear I'm not memory holed. I was weirded out by the change.
It's like the change was to emphasize how out of his league she was.
Anonymous No.150237374 >>150247305
>>150235829
>>150237199
This kind of plays into what I'm talking about. It really does appear that she gets taller as the show went on.
https://youtu.be/SN5nvP-JK00?si=hqU2L5TANeVLgkly
Anonymous No.150237417
>>150232816
>>150234477
it was a good choice to include Trixie. She deserved it for being such a bitch.
Also, Tootie would faint just seeing Timmy in that form
Anonymous No.150237431 >>150242139
>>150235829
Also, now that she's brought up, it seemingly makes more sense that she would be Trixie's younger sister instead of Vicky's.
Anonymous No.150237939
>>150195594
>make Vicky a skateboarder
That was season 1 and for one episode.
>set up Remy Buxaplenty as a recurring enemy of Timmy
You're only saying this because he came back. You could make any villain come back including Vicky's brain people saying "We'll meet again, Timmy Turner!" at the end of his episode.

What next? It's a letdown the auntie/granny in Timmy's video game who pinches his cheeks never showed up for real in any episode?

>>150206376
>slice of life
Please go back to /a/
Anonymous No.150238290 >>150238372
>>150233701
nah Trixie's always been taller than Timmy, partially because she was originally meant to be older than Timmy(similarly Tootie's supposed to be younger than Timmy, hence why he doesn't like her affections)
Anonymous No.150238372
>>150234819
>>150238290
I'm being memory holed.
Anonymous No.150238418 >>150238651
>>150237199
Do you remember the plot of the Trixie short? Or what clothes she was wearing?
Anonymous No.150238651
>>150238418
I don't remember now. The only thing I remember is how she appeared then.
Anonymous No.150239951
Bump
Anonymous No.150239962
>>150237109
kek
Anonymous No.150240749
>>150237109
kek
Anonymous No.150241606
How should his boyfriend look like?
Anonymous No.150241662 >>150241681 >>150242081
How should her boyfriend look like?
Anonymous No.150241681
>>150241662
Earneck
Anonymous No.150242081 >>150243961
>>150241662
Anonymous No.150242139
>>150233701
>>150235092
Trixie wasn't in the OYC shorts.... I do remember someone leaked the original FOP pitch bible though, and Trixie was listed. She was supposed to be a new student at Timmy's school, and also, somewhat more of an antagonist. She and Tootie also had at least one episode where they directly compete, something that doesn't really happen in the series aside from Love Struck which is more a lot more indirect.

>>150237431
I'm not sure that even makes sense. Tootie was introduced before Trixie, and she was done so to create something of a dichotomy with Vicky... while Vicky torments him with aggression, Tootie torments him with affection.
Anonymous No.150242697
You really have to give props to Hartman for creating a series with NO good characters. At least people are realizing that now, which is likely why Fairly Oddparents is completely irrelevant in the modern era.
Anonymous No.150242733 >>150242887 >>150244925 >>150251631
>150242697
Trying too hard + FOP is more fondly remembered than Spongebob or Invader Slim.
Anonymous No.150242887
>>150242733
>FOP is more fondly remembered than Spongebob
Anonymous No.150242941 >>150243168
>SU image
Ah, so you're just projecting. Back to your Peridot thread, tranny.
Anonymous No.150243008 >>150243076 >>150243970
They made Trixie way too endearing and relatable in this episode, so they spent the rest of the show's existence trying to reduce her down to an airheaded attention whore.
Anonymous No.150243076 >>150243970 >>150247305 >>150249129
>>150243008
Trixie is just a case of a character's likability being dependent on who is writing her. There was no time scale to this thing. She was a literal villain who happily stole Timmy's video games in an episode right after OPs. Then there was a season 7 episode where she was a total sweetheart to Timmy's mom (in his body). And then an episode around the same time where Trixie and Timmy's mom insult each other. There was no rhyme or reason or consistency to those things, so I can understand why people in this thread are frustrated...
Anonymous No.150243168
>>150242941
Cope fag
Anonymous No.150243961
>>150242081
kek
Anonymous No.150243970 >>150243990
>>150243008
>>150243076
Pic related is probably another reason. The guy who worked on this show also worked on Fairly odd parents. So I think it was him leaving that also took Trixie likeability with him when he left.
Anonymous No.150243990
>>150243970
And of course I forgot the pic.
Anonymous No.150244083 >>150244108 >>150244977
>>150195344 (OP)
The "you're my new best friend gag" is still one of my top 10 FoP jokes. Also why? So it would be all the worse when she was abandoned like chester, AJ , Francis, and every other character in later seasons?
Anonymous No.150244108
>>150244083
I was listening to OSP and the mentioned the FOP joke friendship.
Anonymous No.150244740 >>150244858
>>150195344 (OP)
Yeah, I was kind of disappointed this never really went anywhere. Having two characters who don't get along IRL but become best friends when they put on their disguises is a fun way to create tension since there's always a risk their true identities will be revealed.
Anonymous No.150244858
>>150244740
The thing is, and Camp Sherwood pointed this out is that Timmantha isn't Timmy. Trixie made a friend and instead of accepting who she was And embracing the friendship Timmantha never showed up to Trixie birthday party. And this doek Timmy spouted some nonsense at her party.

On a side note, a funny joke was Cheater and AJ presents getting chucked in the fire and Chester saying "see I told you firewood woild be a good present"
Anonymous No.150244925 >>150246781
>>150242733
>FOP is more fondly remembered than Spongebob or Invader Slim
KEK! You must be in headcanon land if you think that is true.
Anonymous No.150244977
>>150244083
yeah it's a great bit
Anonymous No.150245899
>>150195344 (OP)
And I'm Steel Max ]
Anonymous No.150246245 >>150246697
>>150228399
True but
>Ego Trip > Channel Chasers
Anonymous No.150246336 >>150246542
Timmy should have fucked Vicky.
Anonymous No.150246542
>>150246336
vicky should've been dev's deadbeat mom in ANW but the writers had no guts nor glory
Anonymous No.150246697 >>150248232 >>150252294
>>150246245
is that the one that ended with a memory wipe or a time loop?
genndy was as big of a hack as butch if not bigger, he was just sooo protected by online shills whereas butch was despised, i wonder (((why)))...
Anonymous No.150246781
>>150244925
>top
creator ded
>bottom
creator career is ded

kuso... it seems that butch............................. won.
Anonymous No.150247305 >>150247375
>>150243076
Its weird people say that the later seasons ruined these characters, because by "later seasons" they must mean seasons 4-6. They actually dialed back everyone a bit in season 7. Trixie is only reactively mean to Timmy usually, and has cute moments like >>150237374 and even gets to circumvent the rules several times to get with her. Timmy is nicer to Tootie as well on average, and enlists her help several times, he saves her in one episode and she saves him in another. It's only turbomegagigautismos who make a stink out of Trixie's "snooty rich girl" or Tootie's stalker cheerleading line that think these girls were ruined. What killed them was inexplicitly being removed from the fucking show.
Anonymous No.150247375 >>150247707 >>150248415
>>150247305
>doesn't think Tootie got flanderized
she wants to actively fucking hurt Timmy in Light's Out anon.
Anonymous No.150247707 >>150248168 >>150262720
>>150247375
No, if anyone knocked out Timmy it was himself. He's a fuckin' depression case.

He ran into the wall a bunch of times and then Tootie takes him to the hospital in total darkness and resuscitates him.. a doctor voiced by Butch Hartman himself credits her for this... Timmy starts spazzing out so Tootie offers to put him back to sleep using a paddle, then spanks him for tormenting Poof (she was under the influence of Cosmo and Wanda's magic like Timmy's parents and everyone else). Pretty based and cute and funny scene tbqh.

Much better than the flash animated puppeted horrors we got in season 10, even though this episode was just floating eyeballs.
Anonymous No.150248168 >>150248774
>>150247707
>flash animated puppeted horrors we got in season 10
to be fair they didn't want to use flash for the back half of Season 10, they were basically forced to after Nickelodeon extended the season order at the last moment, they otherwise wouldn't have been able to fill the deadline
Anonymous No.150248232
>>150246697
Time loop.
Anonymous No.150248415 >>150262720
>>150247375
Tootie is only flanderized in the sense that after season 5 they forgot she was Vicky's sister, and the whole angle of her not having a great life is dropped. So she doesn't really display any emotional traits beyond being hyperactive and toxically positive toward Timmy. It's not necessarily the worst flanderization to go undergo, certainly not compared to her big sister, but it was slightly noticeable especially since in Kevin Kikeivan's episodes Timmy is basically calling her ugly to her face and Tootie doesn't cry or react like she normally would. That's also because Sullivan may in fact by an actual sociopath too though, judging by how he ruined TLH.
Anonymous No.150248715 >>150250241
>>150204261
>why did people want consistency for a show that had established lore and continuity??
Anonymous No.150248774
>>150248168
Well, honestly, the first few non-flash animated episodes don't really look that great too. In fact I remember a big error in the season intro (Cosmo pulls out a wand, when he's not supposed to have a wand). And the new theme song sucked really bad too.
Anonymous No.150248836
>>150195892
Ah.. Caitlyn and Vi
Anonymous No.150249129 >>150249182
>>150243076
>She was a literal villain who happily stole Timmy's video games in an episode right after OPs
Which episode?
Anonymous No.150249182 >>150249236
>>150249129
the halloween one (To be fair she and the other popular kids were a hivemind that episode)
Anonymous No.150249236
>>150249182
>the halloween one (To be fair she and the other popular kids were a hivemind that episode)
honestly in retrospect that episode wasn't very good, even if the fight between Giant Monster Timmy and the Pumpkinator was a fun one
Anonymous No.150250241
>>150248715
It's a pre-2010 episodic cartoon. Expecting anything more than occasional callbacks is foolish.
Anonymous No.150250610 >>150251279 >>150251308
>>150207968
>FOP builds up characters and drops the development.
>Then it drops those characters.
>Then it introduces characters nobody likes and pushes them for a season or two
Made me realise how World of Gumball is also guilty of such mistakes, but if you dare point that out, a pack of autismos will inevitably show up and tell you to kill yourself. What makes FOP's fandom so different in this regard?
Anonymous No.150251123
>>150232816
god she's so hot
Anonymous No.150251246
I want to fuck that little Chinese-American Girl.
Anonymous No.150251279
>>150250610
FOP was always a very self-critical fandom, almost to a fault really. You can find people whining about golden age episodes on troonzone because Cosmo made a nagging wife joke.
Modern day fandoms are more apologetic, in same cases just blindly loyal. There are exceptions like SvTFOE's finale or Velma, but stuff that 4chins was harsher toward like Gravity Falls/Adventure Time's ending is regarded as masterpieces among their wider fandom and might get you outright banned for criticizing.
Anonymous No.150251308
>>150250610
Gumball has done it, espescially when you compare early seasons to later ones, but was it ever as bad as some of Fairly Odd Parents' has been with it's completely dropping of characters and developments?
Anonymous No.150251631
>>150242733
Pathetic cope.
Anonymous No.150252193
>>150195483
Cry about it
Anonymous No.150252294
>>150246697
>genndy was as big of a hack as butch if not bigger
Oh piss off.
Anonymous No.150252431 >>150254092 >>150254119 >>150254725 >>150259433
Why did it F(L)oP?
Anonymous No.150252963
>>150195344 (OP)
Who else could be mad.
Anonymous No.150253152
>>150232691
Looking cute for the summer
Anonymous No.150253257
Anonymous No.150254045
Anonymous No.150254092
>>150252431
>Hazel right under the N
Anonymous No.150254119 >>150254236 >>150254411
>>150252431
they were cowards
Anonymous No.150254192
Anonymous No.150254206
Anonymous No.150254236
>>150254119
>I can't be you, so I'll fuck you
Would this improve her?
Anonymous No.150254250
Anonymous No.150254411
>>150254119
>Tootie ending up with Trixie
This would've been pretty hilarious but I don't think Butch would've accepted retconning his characters to be gay. I'm pretty sure the only reason they got away with the non binary character is because they were basically an OC donut steel
Anonymous No.150254725
>>150252431
It's too bad. I liked the kind of 2.5D artstyle and the voice acting. I think my main gripe is the humor and storytelling were really tame and kind of low stakes. As someone who watched FoP back in middle school, the presentation felt geared towards a very, very young audience.
Anonymous No.150255932
>>150195344 (OP)
We can't be all that mad?
Anonymous No.150256747 >>150257456
Anonymous No.150257456 >>150258694
>>150256747
CUTE
Anonymous No.150258694 >>150258796
>>150257456
AND
Anonymous No.150258793
>>150237109
kek
Anonymous No.150258796 >>150259871
>>150258694
CHINESE
Anonymous No.150258958
>>150195594
>>150195344 (OP)
Well don't you get it? THEN THE OPPOSITE HAPPENS! Don't you like the type of GOTCHA humor Hartman does? Ain't it fucking Funny!?
Anonymous No.150259183
>>150207751
Her design has aged really well
Anonymous No.150259251
>>150200244
She's with another girl so it's fine and safe, anon. That's how it works. It's just two girls being girls then. Not one girl being surrounded by boys in a boy space. Which does make an underlying tragedy that Trixie didn't get to keep a gal pal like that. That's pretty important for being able to be yourself.
Anonymous No.150259387
>>150201179
AGP coded.
Anonymous No.150259433
>>150252431
Anonymous No.150259871
>>150258796
Anonymous No.150260676
Smeet No.150260920
Anonymous No.150261120
>>150206376
>It's an awkward middle ground that frustrates everyone.
Nail on the head there, I have never heard a more concise summation of Fairly Odd Parents.
Anonymous No.150261181
>>150226750
>That gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnw8zURAxkU
Smeet No.150261813 >>150262226
Anonymous No.150262226
>>150261813
Buenos dias Trixie
Anonymous No.150262453 >>150262598 >>150265726
>>150195344 (OP)
This episode fucked a whole generation of kids into trooning out and killing themselves in their confusion.
Anonymous No.150262598
>>150262453
The weird thing is that the argument the episode makes that we shouldn't sweat about dividing things into "girl stuff" and "boy stuff" and just let people like what they like without it being a whole thing. That's like the total opposite of what things are like now.
Anonymous No.150262720
>>150248415
>only flanderized in the sense that
No, I don't think you understand. Tootie had never prior indicated any desire to outright harm Timmy the way she did in that episode. That is precisely the kind of ammunition Trixiefags use to gaslight people into thinking she was always like the psychotic stalker type that wants to trap Timmy in a loveless marriage when it was never the case in the good seasons. I agree with what you're saying but you can't act like her actively wanting to harm Timmy isn't also a case of flanderization in of itself. I like >>150247707's optimistic interpretation that her behavior was just fueled by the wish but the episode didn't really do a good job of getting that across
Anonymous No.150264108
>150262453
>150262598
>samefagging
Anonymous No.150264517
>>150198710
>ywn be "forced" to be vicky's foot slave and worship her feet and rub them until she falls asleep and then you fuck her sleeping feet
sigh
Anonymous No.150265726 >>150265853
>>150262453
Name one.
Anonymous No.150265853
>>150265726
Real name or dead name? ...well actually it would still be a dead name, so who the fuck cares?