Thread 150206800

Why do Americans like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TMNT) so much?

>>150206800 (OP)
They are cool

They're heroes.

>>150206800 (OP)
Their toenails always freaked me out.

>>150206800 (OP)
Despite being mutated turtles, they're surprisingly relatable.

My FUARKING HEROES……

>>150206800 (OP)
Why shouldn't I like them

>>150206800 (OP)
Going by how the brand is failing a lot in recent years I don't think people like Ninja Turtles much anymore. Not even Bay could make Ninja Turtles mainstream and he made normies love Transformers.

Ninja Turtles is an old franchise beloved strictly by wrinkled greying aging Loser Millennials. Everyone else seems to be dismissive of the brand. And going by how Seth Rothen is handling the next sequel TMNT movie this brand is not finished being bastardized into ruin. And for all you know after Seth Rogen is done, it will continue being shat on by a new hack maybe a shitty feminist or another Jew. If TMNT at any point was popular those days are loooong behind the franchise.

TMNT fizzled out even faster than Transformers managed to do.

>>150206890
>They're heroes.

Not the ones in your image. They failed to defeat every single major villain that series. Seriously think about it, they failed every major main villain story arc except the final Dragon Transformation one which everyone hates and pretends doesn't exist.

>>150206800 (OP)
You still see this old licensing art on tmnt products today. Did you guys know it was drawn by Gil Fox? Golden Age artist born in 1915 and you still see his art on junk at Ollie’s.

>>150206890
In a half shell

>>150206800 (OP)
>muh Americans
Euro here, TMNT was pretty popular when I was growing up.

>>150206800 (OP)
What the fuck is going on with that image

>>150207768
What, you don't remember the Ninja Turtles? This is exactly how they looked

>>150207448
Wait Gill Fox drew that TMNT image? Holy fucking shit, I only found out about his Quality Comics covers a few years ago. He's also the reason why some original Quality Comics art survived, because he managed to sneak a bunch out.

>>150207768
Someone took the original image and changed up a few things

>>150208488
Yes, but why? Usually there's some rhyme or reason for why one makes the edits they do, but I don't understand it
Is it an injoke I don't understand?

>>150206800 (OP)
The classic Ninja Turtles cartoon is actually coming back to free antenna TV on MeTV Toons.

Americans like Ninja Turtles for the same reason they like Spiderman. Colorful superheroes in New York City.

>>150206800 (OP)
because Pizza makes a great substitute for DRUGS

>>150208625
The 87 series is also on Tubi.

Cause you can relate to one of them

>>150208770
I'm glad that the Ninja Turtles are against drugs.
Drug dealers and those who supply them deserve to be anally raped in Hell for the rest of eternity. I hope we see more of them be completely vaporized like that boat we hit the other day
They're worse than the Shredder, dude

>>150206800 (OP)
What's not to like about them? The only criticism I could understand is its a little immature at times

>>150206800 (OP)
i like turtles

>>150206800 (OP)
Capeshit for people that don't want capeshit.

Superb

>>150209146
yeah, the shredder is pretty mild when you think about it. he doesn't even use his blades.

>>150207748
Yeah but they became Hero Turtles on TV because ninjas weren't welcome in Blighty. And it was jarring as they were Ninja Turtles everywhere else, including on the playground.
But the cartoon was on television, movies in the cinema, comics and toys in the supermarket all at the same time. I didn't have a Nintendo, so never played the vidya.
t. scandi

>>150206800 (OP)
How is the current state of American fandom of this series?

Saturday Morning Adventures by IDW is a fun read, but avoid Jason Aaron current run of TMNT like the 13th plague.

>>150210767
The retarded censorship is something I've never understood. Nunchucks is one thing, but this hangup over a word is just baffling to me.
Why didn't other action/violence-oriented archetypes, like cowboys or pirates get this treatment? Shit, we had this kid running around with an airsoft pistol and a plastic badge calling himself sheriff, kek.

>>150211639
I used to be under the impression the Turtles had a good track record for good adaptations for instance 2003/2012 for instance were good adaptations but ironically they both "died" the same way

>Start out at street level fighting purple dragons/foot clan
>Start leaking into more stranger shit with stockman or Kraang
>Starts to get stranger and stranger scifi concepts
>They go into space and the shows start sucking

Rise was the only one that flopped really fast but honestly? I think they made Rise way to close to when 2012 ended. Sure you had grogs complaining but even the new fans you gained with 2012 werent exactly happy

>>150212366
My problem with Rise is not that it's not street-level, I actually like alien/scifi parts of TMNT. And 2012 TMNT were pretty much fighting Kraang since episode 1.
My problem is that it's pretty 1987 on crack and off ADHD meds, so it quickly stops being charming and becomes annoying very fast.

>>150206800 (OP)
They're turtles. They're teenagers. They're ninjas. They fight crime.

>>150212366
What people think is the normal progression has really never been the case. I think people would really love a more consistent, gradual ramp up, but every fucking series either opens with or waits only a short time before the aliens start showing up. Rise introduced a supernatural undercity full of monsters/mutants in the first episode. 2012 was fighting the Krang in their first. IDW goes only a few issues before introducing Krang, the Technodrome, and then fighting a war alongside the Neutrinos a short while later.

>>150212849
I think even Mirage was throwing the Turtles into space to fight the Triceratons as early as their second issue.

>>150212894
First is vs Shredder, then Stockman and the Mousers, then a silly issue with a van chase, and then they are going to TCRI, finding the Krang, and getting teleported to an alien planet where they meet the Fugitoid.

>>150212940
>finding the Krang
Utroms. Krang is a different character in an entirely different series despite similar appearances.

>>150206800 (OP)
Nostalgia. 90% of TMNT fans come from the 87 cartoon, or some other stupid cartoon that takes all its inspiration from Cowabunga Pizza Turtles.
Mirage is largely ignored and you have tmnt fabs wgo never even read it parroting the "gritty and dark" bullshit.

>>150213001
You are right. My mind was still thinking about 2012 where all the Utroms are just called Krang for some stupid reason.

>>150207455
TURTLE POWER

>>150206800 (OP)
Raphael leads, Leonardo does machines (hey, that's right!), someone is cool but crude, Michelangelo is a party dude.

>>150213214
>Raphael leads
Only according to Partners in Kryme.

>>150213254
and Rise

>>150213043
>parroting the "gritty and dark" bullshit.
It did go to some dark places and there was occasionally some pretty decent violence, injury, and death, but you'd think it was a Garth Ennis the way poseurs talk about it.

>>150206800 (OP)
April O'Neil is a BIG reason.

>>150216294
Can't argue with those

For me, it's autism

>>150208908
This. My younger brother was obsessed with ninja turtles, mostly Raphael cause of how temperamental he is, and the red color scheme. I always danced between Michelangelo and Donatello for favorites, but I always wanted Leonardo toys because he's the the blue one.

>>150206800 (OP)
they eat pizza and live in a sewer surrounded by garbage hated and feared by all normal people and carry impractical huge weapons that are designed to make you look intimidating in the mall in the 1980s

>>150206800 (OP)
Because the concept is so inherently novel, especially for it's time. It's so weird and unique that it taps into the kind of childhood imagination where kids just make up stuff and run with it. There's not much else like it.

They're black coded which makes Americans euphoric.

>>150206800 (OP)
Ninjas and Pizza and Parkour are Awesome, that's why.

>>150222942
>the turtles that talk like California surfer dudes
>they’re actually black, I swear

>>150213043
came in from '87 but I like mirage most

87 is brainddead but funny, if we're talking tmnt cartoons 2003 is probably the best. haven't yet seen 2012 or rise/the tales of the tmnt series yet

>>150217426
Hnnnnnghh

>>150206800 (OP)
Why do Japanese like super sentai so much?

>>150206800 (OP)
Has anyone wanted to see the Turtles fuck? Either a mutant, alien, or human? I know that Mikey conceived a child with that triceratops alien in the Mirage run in the '90s, but other than that the Turtles don't get much action. Also, in some versions where Splinter is Yoshi Hamato, Splinter had biological sons. And what's stopping him from siring some more?

>>150222942
they're sewer children raised off pop culture tv. So I guess they could be nigs, or phillipino rapebabies with a japanese dad.

>>150206800 (OP)
1. They're the world's most fearsome fight team.
2. They're heroes in the half-shell.
3. They're green.
4. They cut the Shedder no lack.

>>150225731
>And what's stopping him from siring some more?

Simple the franchise is castrated into being infantile family friendly trite. So sex and even wholesome reproduction is forbidden. Even Disney allows reproduction in their family movies for crying out loud. There are other roadblocks but yeah the franchise being locked into being super infantile has censored this element.

Even freaking Ben Ten has allowed showing Ben aging and reproducing and having a family in his timeline. And right now many companies are REFUSING to show main characters reproducing because Careers Over Family is the modern cultural trend.

>>150206800 (OP)
First off, it was well made with appealing characters and cool concepts. The early seasons of the 89 show, the original comic, first movie, and the Konami games all hold up well. The quality was objectively high for a lot of it.

But I think it was also the perfect mix of ideas for the late 80s/early 90s. At the time, a few things were super popular. Marvel comics and mutant super heroes were huge, X-Men was the most popular comic, and TMNT even started as a Daredevil parody. Ninjas and martial arts were also super big culturally back then. At the same time martial arts movies were super popular and cool, also one of the reasons games like Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat took off so much. Ninjas appeared in comics all the time (Wolverine going to Japan, Daredevil fighting The Hand, etc.) as well as everywhere else.

Basically, TMNT was perfect for the time it came out, because it was a mix of all of the coolest stuff in the world back then. In addition to mutation and martial arts, you had robots, aliens, alternate dimensions, and all kinds of other cool things.
>tldr
TMNT was awesome in the perfect way for 80s/90s kids.

>>150225731
>Has anyone wanted to see the Turtles fuck?

>>150226669
And then Ninjas became lame thanks to Naruto. Hey everybody we are Ninjas Who Don't Kill! Lame fucking shit. That also through osmosis affected Ninja Turtles. While the turtles don't have a reputation for always killing Naruto put into perspective that....

Hey wait a minute the turtles are ALSO ninjas who don't kill the villains.....this is kind of lame.

Thank god for Ninja Gaiden for keeping ninjas who kill baddies. During the decade Naruto reigned supreme Ninja Gaiden was a godsend. Speaking of which I'm looking forward to the new game.

>>150226669
>Basically, TMNT was perfect for the time it came out, because it was a mix of all of the coolest stuff in the world back then. In addition to mutation and martial arts, you had robots, aliens, alternate dimensions, and all kinds of other cool things.
It's honestly hard to believe that people can't instantly see the appeal of Ninja Turtles, it's pure fun. On top of all the cool stuff, it's funny and there's pizza and turtles. Everybody likes pizza and everybody likes turtles.

>>150226755
Its easy to NOT see the fun when they keep making the characters progressively uglier and lamer. And I think mainstream wise the thing that made people start rejecting the Ninja Turtles is seeing the UGLY Michael Bay trailer with Michelangelo taking off his bandanna showing his regular face. People went crazy saying memes like how even Shrek looks more handsome. So the ugly factor really started to kill the appeal of Ninja Turtles. Turtles aren't really cool animals. But grab them and make them UGLY anthros? That's a difficult sell.

And Seth Rogen is not helping because they keep making the turtles ugly and shoddy looking. This franchise is rotting. If you make your characters ugly and lame it will not resonate with consumers. Also whoever thought having Michelangelo fart in his brothers' faces during the Bay movies should be shot.

>>150226710
Thanks for reminding me about new Ninja Gaiden, it looks awesome.
>>150226835
Yeah somehow they're managing to make TMNT look lame, don't know how they keep fucking it up. It should be easy to get right.

>>150226848
>Thanks for reminding me about new Ninja Gaiden, it looks awesome.

We got TWO Ninja Gaiden games. The first one already recently got released Ninja Gaiden Ragebound. This one is a throwback to older 2D style games. And separately we're getting that new 3D Hack and Slash game with Ryu Hayabusa and the new playable protagonist.

Honestly Ninja Gaiden fans are eating good recently.

>>150226848
Lame is right. The recent Seth Rogen Ninja Turtles.....the turtles do NOT want to be ninjas. They want to be regular school students who go to school and do homework and junk. That is so....not fun. And they're not even real martial artists since Splinter didn't teach them well (Splinter in the recent movies learned martial arts from social media so he's neither Hamayo Yoshi or a former pet of Hamato Yoshi).

Is Ninja Turtles a dying franchise? Even Transformers is doing better.

>>150206800 (OP)
Why do not Americans like gay sex? We may never know.

>>150228329
Blame the Jews and it really doesn't help that the Ninja Turtles got used as Jewish defenders in those shitty Archie Comics and SHUT THE FUCK UP! Those comics are junk.

>>150226755
all right you're great zombie

>>150226669
The fuck? The comic stole art from the NES game? And the colorist goofed, he made them all red.

>>150208770
I mean, I unironically think that would be a good subsitute bar heroin. I think most druggies would choose obesity with a cheaply available supply of pizza over substances.

FUUUUAAAARKK

Jump

>>150226682
Mikey should be impregnating Renet.

>>150225731
Yes they should fuck:
Leonardo: Karai, Radical, Lotus Blossom
Raphael: Mona Lisa, Alopex, Ninjara
Donatello: Jhanna, (not April), drunk Irma
Mikey: Renet, Kala the Neutrino, Seri

That gives a good amount for the Turtles to fuck and impregnating. With a wide variety of women being mutants, aliens, human, and even dinosaurs

>>150210446
Here, less blurry.

>>150209146
Are anchovies, crack, smack and angel dust toppings you have to opt out of at this place?

>>150230603
You'd think at some point they'd actually go there and have the turtles father some children. Some weird fucking Archie comics arc where one of the girlfriends lay and egg and there's a whole extended thing about protecting it and getting it back from some villain before the kid is born at the end of the arc and we get a 2nd generation Ninja turtle.

Mirage comics had them in their fucking thirties, drinking beer, living in apartments with their girlfriends, and doing mundane shit. Next logical step is making babies.

>>150231407
Yeah I could see that happening. They get the egg back and they're rationalizing "well you know maybe it was a dud after all ha ha ha" and then it hatches. exact kind of thing to happen in a weird furry adjacent 90s comic

>>150231407
Mikey did have a kid with a dinosaur in the Mirage comics

>>150231593
They just never followed up on it or did anything with it.

They should make a Tmnt x Hello Kitty special

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLx9yEclV0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70WJsJ9ZP88&pp=ygUSVG1udCB4IGhlbGxvIGtpdHR50gcJCbIJAYcqIYzv

>>150232345
Should be TMNT x Naruto x Gundam x Hello Kitty

>>150232345
I got Mikey x Kuromi and Leo x Kitty.