Thread 150989197

>murders an innocent Indian guy for no reason
>opens a rift and condemns a city to die for “choosing superman over me”
>will now be redeemed and is the main character of superman 2

How? How could superman or the general public forget he shot Mali in the head and almost wrecked earth while helping enact a genocide as a side hustle?

>>150989197 (OP)
Watch the movie and find out, bozo.

ALL people deserve another chance. That’s what superman stands for.

Just because Lex shot some dude and did some bad stuff it doesn’t mean he can’t change

>WELL IM A PUNKROCKER YES I AM

>>150989197 (OP)
kindness is the new punk rock dude, everyone can be forgiven and seek redemption

>>150989289
>>150989225

So we should forgive Nazi murderers and pedos? Let them go free?

>>150989197 (OP)
It's just "shit is happening," the audience is being taken for a ride, trying to do the hero's journey for every single meta is impossible

>>150989197 (OP)
Superman is ultimately a Christ/Bodhisattva figure. He is more than willing to fight and even kill to keep the peace (should it be the reasonable/responsible option), but his mission is to protect and save the lives of all peoples, no matter how far they have strayed from God or the Middle Path. And that includes Lex. Luthor may have blood on his hands and has brought about great instability and suffering to the world, but that does not mean he is incapable of self-transformation, repentance, and redemption. If anything, it means Superman SHOULD help Lex find his way back to the path of good considering all the brilliant things he CAN do for others. Lex should only be killed if Lex becomes such a big threat that his continued existence would permanently throw the social harmony into total ruin.

>>150989304
There is a saying among Buddhists: it is right to show mercy, compassion, and love to all, but that does not mean you sleep next to a rabid dog or let it roam freely. Forgiveness is something that must be earned, not freely given or expected.

>>150989304
Yes retard. Superman has always been OUR GUY. he's ALWAYS been Homelander. That's what Ennis meant when he made The Boys. Retard.

>>150989197 (OP)
>innocent
>Indian
>no reason

>>150989197 (OP)
>murders an innocent Indian guy for no reason
WTF, I love Luthor now

The general public are lemmings in the Gunnverse they literally turn on Superman because a "Trust Me Bro" video clip on Fake Fox News and then immediately turn on Luthor because an uncorroborated newspaper article.

>>150989331
>>150989197 (OP)
>or the general public forget
If you check the Coronswet Superman movie on fan sites (for fan art, fan fic, fan theories), more people are shipping HoultLex with Coronsupes than anything else - after that it's self-inserts with David, even though he's happily married, or with Clark, even though he's clearly happy with movie Lois.

Also, Hoult is charismatic and attractive enough, in the same way Rosenbaum was on Smallville. Jon Cryer Lex or Kevin Spacey Lex would never get that option. Hackman Lex would only get it for the LOLZ.

>>150989490
Sounds pretty realistic to me.

>>150989197 (OP)
>>murders an innocent Indian guy for no reason

Lex is a SAAR who is REDEEMED.

>>150989513
They should bite the bullet and just make the homoerotic subtext between Lex and Clark into text, or turn Lex into a woman. I think a rule 63 Lex Luthor would be ridiculously popular with women.

>I HATE YOU SUPERMAN YOU BIG DUMB IDIOT WHY DON'T YOU JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY REEEEEEEE
>uwah Clark is so tall and hunky, I love having him around~

>>150989546
>or turn Lex into a woman.

>>150989197 (OP)
Even if you hate Gunn you have to admit thia scene was fucked up, ill give him credit he knows how to make a villain actually feel fucking evil for once, probably one of the best scenes in the movie for me.

>>150989697
I liked how he seemed a little shaken. I really doubt Lex personally killed anybody before he shot that guy. And he legit probably expected superman to fold before he randomly reached fine bullet chamber

>>150989490
The whole internet was also anti-Superman because every poster was a monkey working for Luthor

>>150989225
>>150989289

>>150989197 (OP)
>How? How could superman or the general public forget he shot Mali in the head and almost wrecked earth while helping enact a genocide as a side hustle?
Maybe go read some actual comics, newfag. The public mass in superhero worlds are fucking retarded, and are literally blind sheep who will think and say whatever they are told.

>>150989197 (OP)
Wait until he becomes president.

>>150989677
So that's where JMS got the idea for his Earth One GN?

>>150990551
I mean just like real life.
Look at how everybody went quiet about Epstein from 2021 to 2024 despite the arrest taking place in 2019.
Heck, look at how everybody worldwide went quiet about covid on march 2023.

>>150989304
We're letting them do a lot more than that now.

I literally have no explanation for this other than Gunn hates Indians, which is ok in my opionion, but I have NO FUCKING CLUE how WB allowed him to put this in the movie

>indian
>Innocent
Are we sure about that?

>>150989697
it's probally woke symbolism of "how the west was won" by killing indians, some of the u.s some from india. Probally "colonialism bad" with lex being the ulitmate white business man character, when in reality if we let the dirty unwashed brown people continue to sacrifice people to the latest sky god,they would of self extinctioned themselves.

>>150990348
He needed a chance at redemption. Hawkgirl will pay for her crimes

>>150989197 (OP)
>helping enact a genocide
Zoomers need to stop calling every military operation against civilians a genocide. It's gay.

>>150989197 (OP)
And he did all of this… for REAL ESTATE. Fucking Gunn and his retarded Reeve boomer idiots

>>150990765
He literally called for the blood of jarhanpurians to fill the streets

>>150989197 (OP)
I tried to warn you.

>>150990765
>military operation against civilians
You're not supposed to do that at all.

>>150989197 (OP)
Wether he’s redeemed or not depends on the viewer, but he would still do heroic acts because he wants to be seen as a hero, and Earth is his home, why would he let it be destroyed

>>150990765
>military operation against civilians
...?

>>150991261
There’s other words like massacre, terrorism, & ethnic cleansing

>>150989197 (OP)
>>murders an innocent Indian guy for no reason
You just don't know the backstory of the seemingly innocent Indian guy.
In reality he was the Ultra Humanshite

>Lex was lame all he did was a real estate scheme
>Lex b-being actually brutal and f-fucked up?? Not like that!!

>>150991208
He was gonna let it be destroyed in the movie though via the rift

You guys realize he was Arab and not Indian right? He ran a falafel stand

>>150989304
Yes, the American president and his supporters should get a second chance.

>>150989225
>ALL people deserve another chance.
>That’s what superman stands for.
No it fucking isn't. Don't just spout bullshit as if it's true.

>>150989197 (OP)
there are no innocent indians.

>>150989304
Are you implying that "forgiving" and "letting them go free" is the same thing?

>>150989197 (OP)
Not a /co/ character but Vegeta murdered innocent people and endangered all life on Earth multiple times directly or indirectly and attempted to murder the main character due to his ego but the story still managed to get him through a redemption arc.

>>150989197 (OP)
>So, I thought the gun was loaded with blanks, but someone else had put live rounds in there. I took Mali's family out to Denny's later and we all had a big cry and agreed it was Superman's fault.

>>150991577
That’s because nobody can beat vegeta up without destroying the planet

>>150991408
>>Lex was lame all he did was a real estate scheme
I mean ultimately his entire plan was still about real estate which is pretty funny.

>>150989304
There's a reason he got hawkgirl on the team. She splats the icky people superman don't like

>>150989197 (OP)
>How?
Did you miss the time in comics, when he became the President of USA? It's nothing new for him, to weasel his way out.

>>150990700
Superman will just forgive her

>>150989197 (OP)
OP, the general public is literally retarded. You could genocide an entire hospital of newborn babies and instantly be absolved of all of your crimes if you follow up by stopping an alien invasion or repelling a meteor headed for earth. Cheating redemption is so goddamn easy, that it's one of the big reasons anime, video games, and comic books all suck.

>>150990665
I think he just killed him to be a scary villain.

>>150991897
or just by saying there were "terrorists" in the basement of the hospital

>>150989331
Its interesting to me seeing so many reddit atheists shit on christians and then continue to just replace christ with a comic book character.

>>150989304
>So we should forgive Nazi
yes
>murderers
depends
>and pedos?
fuck no

>>150992159
That would imply I believe Superman is real and God isn't.
Jesus Christ (Bible Jesus, not historical Jesus) happens to be one of my favourite fictional characters, but people get mad when you talk about him in those terms.

>>150989197 (OP)
How's his legal team gonna bust him out?

>>150992743
Rick Flagg Sr. will put him on "Task Force X" in order to get him to help out with Salvation

>>150992743
It wasn’t him that did the crimes in the first superman movie, it was Clayface

>>150989197 (OP)
Gunn's surface level writing and world building. That or they don't forget but look pass it due to the evil or oblivion trope.

>>150989197 (OP)
>>murders an innocent Indian guy for no reason
Based Lex

>>150989197 (OP)
>Promises to send whole of Indian subcontinent to the phantom zone
>Instantly elected president
What did Gunn mean by this?

>>150989677
How would Lex react to learning his great-great-great-great-great-grandaughter will lust for Supes dick?

>>150989197 (OP)
So he's not only the most cringe luthor ever, but they're giving him a redemption arc too?!
WOW!
Is it too late to get the Snyderverse Lex back?

>>150989225
This faggot attitude is why the Joker is still alive to murder and torture people. Batman's a fucking pussy, and so is Superman.

>>150989197 (OP)
Did Gunn actually say he'll be redeemed?

>>150989197 (OP)
I didn't know Grant Morrison killed an Indian. When did it happen?

>>150994052
>I didn't know Grant Morrison killed an Indian
Oh my god, is that why they casted him?

>>150994097
Yes but I'm not sure if he's Brahmin or Kshatriya.

>>150990569
he wouldn't want that position, too much attention, he's supposed to be the tech bro guy who's the power behind the president, like a sam altman or jeff bezos.

>>150992242
he was a fag

>>150989304
It’s okay to do anything to anyone as long as you say “I’m sorry” afterwards. Only shallow stupid people would continue to hold you accountable for your actions after an apology.

>>150989546
If you turn lex into a woman how is it homoerotic anymore? Any decent human being would try to avoid furthering the heteronormative agenda.

>>150989546
>I HATE YOU SUPERMAN YOU BIG DUMB IDIOT WHY DON'T YOU JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY REEEEEEEE
>uwah Clark is so tall and hunky, I love having him around~
This is just Smallville Lex

>>150989197 (OP)
Holy shit, if he doesn't totally fag out and works out and maybe do a bit of gear his face will fill out and, he'll be a comic accurate luthor by the time he's 40.

Yeah he probably doesn't want to ruin his youthful look.
But i can see it.

>>150989304
You're never going to get a serious argument if you choose to wear your fixation on Gotchas on your sleeve. If you actually cared about debating philosophical points like this, you don't set up juvenile mouse traps. You're only doing this to feel better about yourself and it shows. Shallow and dishonest.

>>150989197 (OP)
How many people did that jeet street food vendor kill with his unhygenic practices?
Luthor is a fucking hero.

>>150989197 (OP)
Being a main character doesn't mean he's redeemed or in any way a good guy.
Likely it will be a truce situation where he helps out of self-interest.

>>150994228
Luthor would become the president just to piss off Superman.

>>150989490
in case you haven't looked outside in the past decade journalism is pretty powerful

>>150989197 (OP)
Who said redeemed? Lead and alliance does not mean redemption

>>150989697
I like how there wasn't any kind of trickery or intention. He really just kinda fucked up his russian roulette moment, but it doesn't matter at all to him, because he thought he'd just grab people to do that every day in front of Supes until he finally cracks.

>>150989197 (OP)
This is a problem with all writing recently, not just in the sense of giving out redemption arcs like candy, but character choices never have consequences and dynamics just shift on a whim.

>>150990818
>>150991408
>>150991870
Are you retarded? Lex literally spells it all out.
Getting half of a country was just a bonus to him. A cherry on top. It was all about getting official US Government approval to apprehend Superman when he starts meddling in international affairs orchestrated by Luthor's deals with Boravia.

>>150989225
>ALL people deserve another chance. That’s what superman stands for.

Oh, we're moving THAT Batman strawman to Superman while he's on hiatus now?

>>150991419
Plenty of Muslims in India.

>>150993233
>plenty of bait posts ITT
>only one getting a response is the Snyderfag

Really says a lot about this dead website.

>>150995768
>This is just Smallville Lex

>>150989197 (OP)
>murders an innocent Indian guy for no reason

isn't the reason they are indian

>>150989304
Lol it's funny that the absolute worst thing a zoomer can imagine is a nazi

>>150996149
Nah.
That was yaoi bait tier shit. They were getting creepy with it.

>>150996049
I meant Spacey Lex w/ the first one

>>150996192
funnier is that /pol-tard imbeciles now accept that "pedo" is the worst thing that can be imagined and revel in being nazi's

>>150995917
It has literally never been weaker.

>>150996776
it's flattering, if you want to hurt my feelings call me an indian

>>150993829
why is lex luthor always so weird in live action?

>>150997808
Because they're trying to reinvent him with the trapping s of what makes him Lex but also whatever bullshit they view modern Billionaires as. So Lex has to be Mark Zuckerburg and then he has to be Elon Musk.

>>150996192
Well, they do want to kill everyone.

>>150989197 (OP)
>will now be redeemed and is the main character of superman 2
They said this is going to happen or is it just a guess?

>>150989197 (OP)
>Redeemed
He is not getting redeemed you idiot.

>>150989197 (OP)
>Indian guy
>innocent
anyway it isn't murder, at the worst its animal cruelty

>>150989197 (OP)
>murders an innocent Indian guy for no reason
Sounds to me like he already Redeemed.

>>150989304
>>150989331
“To err is human, to forgive is divine”