Thread 151054448

KEEP ALL TOURNAMENT TALK ITT.
Welcome to the Mr. /co/ All-Stars tournament! Vote now to determine your Mr. /co/ champion of champions.

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►OC
https://co.llection.pics/
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Mr._/co/_All-Stars/Gallery

►Detailed rules and info
https://pastebin.com/dKkEugw8

►Past Champions
Johnny Bravo (2018)
Kronk (2019)
Tom (2020)
General Grievous (2021)
Zorak (2022)
Skeletor (2023)
Spider-Man (2024)
Daffy Duck (2025)

►Character Judges
Yotsuba & /co/nrad
Little Suzy
/co/lette
Hope Corgi
J/aco/lyn

Hosts
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>Coayynon !!h9S8LHq02ZJ
>Samaritanon !!vt0xZn2AIz2

►Seed Rankings: >>151021698
►Quarterfinals: >>151038189
►Semifinals: Current
►Previous: >>151049067

OC Anchor.

I love daffy!

>>151054459
ATTENTION ANONS
Wanna watch cartoons featuring our winners? Then come join the stream, link in pic related, along with today’s schedule. Going from order of victory margins, the order of the remaining stream will be
>Spider-Man
The rest will go on tomorrow's losers stream
Currently playing: Spider-Man in the 90s show, first episode will be Make A Wish.

>>151054448 (OP)
ROUND 2 OF MR. /co/NSTANTINOPLE IS NOW UNDERWAY!

CAST YOUR VOTES FOR YOUR FAVORITE #128 SEED BELOW:
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd4133riLNqGsCRMyG-k6V0BOAxus5m5Jbj0M-y1FmjY4rMhw/viewform
Cool new poll, how do you feel about the /v/ winners

>Johnny
>Daffy
>5th: Zorak
>6th: Kronk
>7th: Skeletor
>8th: Grievous
I could be swayed with my finals choice, but I'm set on my 5th-8th.

>Johnny is definitely packing a decent dong, likely on the more girthy side
>Tom has barbs for ensnaring chicks
>Daffy has a corkscrew, likely with toon force

I got no idea about Spider-Man's penis. Surely there's some reference to it by now in official media. He has the most content of the four winners.

Thought Skeletor was generally regarded as one of the best winners.

>>151054512
Stiff competition. The only winner I think is weak is Grievous.

>>151054496
>/v/-related poll
>posting it in a /co/ tournament

>>151054511
There is a comic where it's radioactive and killed Mary Jane with super cancer.

This one anon in the CyTube streams had a good point. What's likely the worst stroke of back luck to have affected each of the remaining four?

the password is...
no I think I'll sit this one out actually

>>151054448 (OP)
>map as the OP
Finally

>>151054496
What are you trying to achieve with this? Do you want your circlejerk of 30 people to vote for all the accepted /tnt/ opinions and try to hold it over /v/'s head?

>>151054607
Ironically someone on /tnt/ was worried this would be used as ammo against /tnt/.

>>151054607
>look guys, 5 of the 7 responses say this, it's a fact!

SPIDEYBROS CHECK-IN

>>151054607
I'm not posting the poll myself on here, but can't stop some random anon from doing it. That said, to answer your question, it's mostly out of a mix of fun and curiosity. It's not meant to be taken that seriously, though if you did get anything out of it the takeaway would specifically be how /tnt/ feels Anybody who tries to extend its opinions to most of /v/ or its tournament voterbase is either being dumb or being way too obsessed over some of this.

If anything, I'd say it would less be held over their heads (like they'd give a fuck) and more clearing up how the /tnt/ side feels about the winners. That's not at all equatable to /v/'s opinion even if some takes might overlap. Can't help any schizos that don't understand that. Getting quite bored of taking some of them seriously, if anything. Just want to have fun discussing the tournaments instead of some of the shitflinging that's gotten way worse this year.

Screw it, going for a Tom/Daffy rematch

>>151054661
ROGER

>>151054661
>>151054750
Spider-Man is getting corkscrewed by Daffy and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>151054476
Final episode of the night is starting soon, Attack of the Octobot.

>>151054730
Bros I thought voting Daffy would end the duck matches…

Bracket

>>151054767
You needed to vote Donald instead

>>151054448 (OP)
I am holding an art collab alongside CDAnon, and we are looking for people to join us in drawing all the Ms. and Mr. /co/ winners in one big poster. Pic related is the current draft. The available characters are:
Ms. Main Winners:
>Spinel
>Dr. Mrs. The Monarch
>Betty Boop
>Wuya
>Frankie Foster
Fang is taken by CDAnon, and Raven seems to have been claimed, sorry. Jenny's done!
Mr. Main Winners
>Johnny Bravo
>Kronk
>Tom
>General Grevious
>Zorak
>Skeletor
>Spider-Man
>Daffy Duck
This collab will work a lot like the Map collabs in the main tourneys; claim a character, draw them, then post 'em when you're done. If you join to help, we advise you grab some pseudonym so we can keep track of everyone. If this goes well enough, we might do a second collab with all the side-tourney winners.

>>151054767
The Duck Matches will continue until morale improves

Vote Tom

>>151054476
That's all for tonight. Come join the losers stream tomorrow at 3pm EST, where we'll watch cartoons featuring the following:
>Skeletor
>Zorak
>Grievous
>Kronk
(in that order)
Then, at 7:30pm EST after results drop, we'll have our winners stream, same time same place, with movies from our finalists.

>>151054448 (OP)
One more time then?

>>151055053
Yes, in the 3rd place match!

Guy who went through Mr. /co/'s history to determine the biggest blowouts here, I decided to do the same with Ms.
I've already found four matches that were bigger stomps than Dale vs. Boomhauer
Jesus christ

>>151054553
It's a tough choice between Spiderman and Tom, the spider keeps getting worse lives over the years. Meanwhile, Tom has died in a bunch of horrific ways.

>>151055083
I wish you strength.

Next you can go find which character has been defiled the most, aka, got most smut and ero done.

>>151055083
Pretty sure the biggest ever is the Chel vs. Joy Kaplan match.

>>151055177
Yeah, if there's a bigger one than that, I've yet to see it.

>>151054661
WAGMI

>>151055126
That's a good question. But the fairest way to do it would be on a per-tournament basis. If it's cumulative, then Nightshiftanon stomps. On a single tournament level, I think Beerus holds the record, for Playboy. I know Zorak and Amity have a lot of smut.

>>151055177
>>151055221
How big was it? I want to know.

>>151055320
Less than 7%

>>151055320
I'll have the full Top 10 relatively shortly, but it was by more than 90%.

>>151055340
Holy shit

>>151054448 (OP)
Looks nice. Maybe we should always save the center for a winner?

>>151055300
Damn, I don't know what to say. Poor cat

>>151054553
Tom in Tom and Jerry exists to suffer. There's gotta be at least a few storylines where Peter Parker settles down, and is happy. But Tom? He is a punching bag for Mice, Dogs, other Cats, Ducks, Black Women, Bowling Balls, Trains, and Guillotines.

>>151055353
Poor? No you got it all wrong, other than a drawing of his face getting sat on, I think all of the art was showing him off.

>>151054661
GANBARE SPIDER-BROS

>>151054661
SPIDER MAN
SPIDER MAN
WINS HOWEVER A SPIDER CAN

>>151054448 (OP)
Whoever uploaded this to the booru, I really wish you would've waited and let me do if you were going to upload the compressed version of the image, and not even tag it properly.
https://co.llection.pics/post/view/148730

Tom
Spider-Man
Kronk
Skeletor
Zorak
Grievous

>johnny has the highest win average of any nominee in tourney history, including ms /co/ and the /v/ ones as well
>4/7 of his opponents lost so hard that they've never qualified again in their lives
daffybros...
peterbros...
i'm scared...

>>151055533
Peter will be fine because he is the strongest

>>151055533
Johnny's win % this round was smaller than Daffy and Spidey's

If we let in Goku for a year, what would happen?

>>151055585
It's pointless if it happens during next year, because Superman is out on break

>>151055533
mirroring Jenny vs. Frankie would be so fucking funny

>>151054448 (OP)
RIP spongebob
RIP hobbes

Guys, I don't mean to worry ya', but I found something strange sleepin' in mah bed, what should I do?

>>151055545
While true, it wasn't by a wide margin. The only closer match was Tom against Kronk, and while I'm not entirely counting him out I do think the most likely outcome is that Johnny's going against either Daffy or Peter next round. The three villains all lost by fairly close percentages, so it could really be any of those three's game. That, and do keep in mind that Grievous became a huge point of discussion last round, with some actively coming to his defense. Saw at least a couple even admit they voted for Grievous as a direct result of him being somewhat dragged through the mud. Didn't really see that happen for Skeletor or Zorak.

>>151055340
I think I know what it is.
is it perhaps dragon-related?

>>151054569
You have to tell me Bejita! I still haven't voted yet because I don't know the fucking password!

>>151055592
Thor can take his place

Okay, done. As a fun little bonus, here are the Top 10 Most One-Sided Matches in Ms. /co/lympus History.
...Which also happens to just be the Top 10 Most One-Sided Matches from Ms. /co/ 2018, because the other years didn't even come close to how brutal that first round was.
>10. Jinx vs. Sunny Miami: 82.5% (2018)
>9. Velma Dinkley vs. Talia: 82.9% (2018)
>8. Jenny Wakeman vs. Jasper: 83.8% (2018)
>7. Toph Beifong vs. Barbara Hershey: 84.1% (2018)
>6. Starfire vs. Lady Shiva: 84.5% (2018)
>5. Frankie Foster vs. Aelita Schaeffer: 85.9% (2018)
>4. Raven vs. Snowman: 87.0% (2018)
>3. Jessica Rabbit vs. Nessie: 88.1% (2018)
>2. Helen Parr vs. Any Malu: 90.5% (2018)

And the single biggest curbstomp in Ms. /co/ 2018, Ms. /co/ in general, and all /co/ tournaments ever, was...
>1. Chel vs. Joy Kaplan: 93.7% (2018)
Joy only got 21 votes to Chel's 310.
I don't think it's even possible for us to ever get an atomizing this obscene again, thanks to Ms. /co/ 2018's mere 154 nominations.

>>151055744
Thor is for Bejita

>>151055783
Jessica really is cursed. Her and Jinx are the only ones here without an elite eight in anything.

>>151055814
She's not a jobber, she's just voted that way.

>>151055783
For what it's worth, Dale vs. Boomhauer is still pretty notable as the only blowout in the combined /co/lympus top 10 that didn't happen in 2018.

>>151055783
The closest /v/ match I can think of with that big a stomp is Samus vs. Megumi which was a 91.14% Samus victory. So Chel vs. Joy is probably the biggest stomp of any (main) 4chan tourney ever.

>>151055783
That year was BRUTAL

>>151055783
Counting /v/ tourneys, Samus takes second place with a 91.14% stomp against Megumi from Crash Team Racing.

>>151055585
What's a Goku?

>>151055844
Megumi had less voters than Joy too because there were less voters for that tournament

>>151055889
Some jobber

>>151055585
round 1 spitevote or HUGE upset with no in between

>>151055844
>>151055879
there's also armstrong vs dynamo, which was like 85% in armstrong's favor

>>151055463
Okay, it's been reuploaded and retagged, I couldn't recognize this cat on the OC machine, so I'd appreciate the help there.
https://co.llection.pics/post/view/148757
If there's anyone else that needs to be tagged, let me know.

>>151054448 (OP)
The password is Stats or Statsanon.

>>151055917
That's Uni the Cat, a shitpost nomination made for Barred.

>>151055783
Crazy that every single one of these is from 2018.

>>151055904
>Mexicans flood the tournament to replace bongs after they are banned from the rest of the internet and cause Goku to get a bigger win than Chel against Joy
The guy Goku beats with 95% of the vote? Oswald with his signature luck.

>>151055783
Brother, what the fuck?

>>151055961
K, B, C

>>151055889
Some retarded rat that can't beat a manlet or a gay rape victim

>>151055943
Is he from anything? Never heard of it.

>>151055981
Well.
Well, uh, he's a cat.
Yeah, he's sorta overthere, he's um. he's a cat.

>>151055981
He's a cat. Like, an actual cat.

>>151055783
Who's Joy Kaplan?

>>151056048
MC of a dead webcomic called Mad Magic, she's a magic school dropout.

>>151055904
>>151055961
>>151055974
We need Goku in. It would make the tournaments actually exciting.

>Johnny
>Spidey
>Kronk
>Grievous
>Zorak
>Skeletor

>>151056164
who we REALLY need is Shadow, so he can win both /v/ and /co/!

>>151055783
Gotta love those pre-Spinel early days

>>151056248
>Gotta love those pre-Spinel early days
words can't even begin to describe how much I hate tranny universe

>>151056257
What about the hetero universe? You hate that too?

>>151056257
CHADven CHADiverse is based and /co/ culture

>>151056273
The one time Steven WAS a chad he cried like a BITCH after killing Jasper (even though she told him she liked it and KNEELED).

>>151056214
This but unironically

>>151056288
CHECKED AND TRUTHFUL #SHAFFYDUBS

>>151055981
From real life. Japan, specifically. He's been the subject of a few memes and is a funny little fella
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Uni_the_Cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkILhCIF4Ok

>>151056287
Showing compassion is a very chad thing to do and he showed masculinity in other aspects

>>151056326
>Showing compassion
...which is why he left jasper depressed and purposeless again btw

SU Future was such a shitty epilogue

Daffy Duck won?
WTF?

>>151056345
Daffy already won to begin with this is just the quadruple length afterparty

>>151056337
She was fine right afterwards and later joined his harem

>>151056357
>Daffyfags STILL being unbearably cocky shits
It's going to be fun watching Spider-Man wipe the floors with him.

>Early Years (Ms. '18-Ms. '19)
>Stats era (Mr. '19-Ms. '21)
>NSA era (Mr. '21-Mr. '23)
What do we call these past two years?

Imagine how it must feel for Spidercucks to keep losing to Daffy AGAIN.

>>151056363
she was unironically robbed and you are an even HUGER FAGGOT than the actual dick sucking faggots in the fanbase

>>151056385
I wanna say post-NSA, but that seems a bit lazy. Balls era, maybe?

229-177 btw

>>151055917
Should Godzilla be tagged? His dorsal plate is what Leonardo's riding on in tile C1 (he needs to be tagged as well)

>>151054553
Reminder that all our "winners" are really losers
>Johnny always fails to get girls
>Kronk always fails Izma except when it comes to cooking
>Tom loses to Jerry the majority of the time
>Grievous got nerfed into a coughing little bitch
>Zorak gets bullied by Space Ghost on the show
>Skeletor jobs to He-Man
>Spider-Man suffers a ton in various media
>Daffy is constantly on the business end of slapstick jokes, is a jobless retard in TLTS and TDTEBU

>>151056436
Meanwhile King winners are all chads. Really says a lot.

>>151055463
>>151055917
Wrong Ninja Turtle tagged, should be Leonardo not Donatello

>>151056401
It was never about Jasper

>>151056436
>Johnny is canonically NOT a virgin according to a volcano.
>Kronk is a WINNER who leads the Squirrel Scouts.
>Tom threw away a MILLION DOLLARS and was STILL HAPPY.
>Grievous... yeah he died pretty hilariously
>Zorak was Cartoon Network's FIRST original series.
>MYAHHHH.
>Spider-Man suffers but always does what's RIGHT.
>Daffy is a HERO who gets BEST GIRL in TLTS. In TDTEBU he and Porky got 5 MILLION dollars.

>>151054459
Vote for Spider-Man

>>151055917
Should Godzilla be tagged? His dorsal plate is what Leonardo's riding on in tile C1 (and Leo himself needs to be tagged as well)

>>151055928
Did he really die?

>>151056490
Well looks like I've been debunked, I'll quit posting that now but Grievous is still a pneumonia having bitch

>>151056467
Good eye, it's fixed now.
>>151056502
Didn't catch that, he's there now.
Anything else?

Man, there's like, no OC in this tournament.

>>151056493
>ai crap from 2 years ago

>>151056514
It's okay it's still pretty funny

>>151056523
Technically the Ms. /co/ winner fusion character is there as well in E3, but dunno if she should have her own tag, or if it'd be too annoying tagging all 8 characters she consists of.

This was OC I made during Mr. 2024 but since we're having the runback it's pretty relevant to post again. Go Spidey!

>>151056593
I remember your drawing lol. Spidey's campaing in the second half of the tourney got really good

>>151056442
Armstrong dies.
Batter is a seething divorcee.
Garland just goes on a grueling mission to kill himself, like a japanese salaryman that got fired.
Grimm gets fucked in the ass, he can only have sex by raping (women don't want him consentually)
Shadow has been seething for over 50 years about Maria, is also obsessed with one-upping Sonic and has a fragile ego.
Only Dante is the true chad, /v/ BITCH

>>151056593
BASED

>>151056585
So far, I've just been tagging them as the original characters + fusion, I dunno if a whole new tag is necessary, specially if next year we're just gonna start a new version.
Also, I was kinda ignoring the characters in the posters partly because I didn't want to tag her.
>if it'd be too annoying tagging all 8 characters she consists of.
Not that much, I can copy and paste the tags from previous images.

>>151056634
>Armstrong doesn't mind because he passed on his ideas to Raiden and ensured that his memes will live beyond him.
>Batter...I don't know anything about OFF
>Garland...yeah this one neither
>There is literally no excuse I have for Grimm
>Shadow moved past his rivalry and grew as a person in Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) then tearfully made peace with his past in Shadow Generations
Still not great but some of them are alright at least.

>>151056585
Either way, it's been done, the fusion, along with Stan Smith and Iroh have been added.

>>151055783
>>151055844
Damn, I was gonna try to do a funny gotcha but not even picrel was as crushing

>>151056705
YARRRRRRRRRRRR

>>151055917
Appreciate your work

>>151056634
This is why Dante is the most boring winner, he has no relatable hardships to overcome.

>>151056761
So true, I need my winners to be cucked incel jobbers

>>151056705
/tnt/fags got Eggman's VA in for the jobber meme. That was pretty much it.

>>151056385
/tnt/ era.

>>151056786
Yep, but i dont blame the hosts

>>151055783
Sunny Miami was robbed

>>151056792
Part of the reason I'd call it /tnt/ is actually cause samar and coayy are /tnt/.

>>151056786
Seems about right. The fall of NSA directing a ton of traffic there cements it.

would you hold it against someone if they didn't deliver on drawing something they said they would even if it was something horrible/autistic

>>151056937
Is money involved? Otherwise, no. But I would be more careful about that artist's prmosies.

>>151056772
No, No. people genuinely liked the guy. It's just that by the time he beat Roosevelt of all people and reached Round 4 it became increasingly difficult to justify Baldry going further. But luck was on his side and his remaining bracket consisted of Ea-nasir (another jokeypick) and Tex Avery (who, while is a great figure in history and probably deserved the win, also wasn't looked upon that fondly as an E8 at the time making it a tossup)

Question, Robotnik qualifies because of the grandfather clause?

>>151057021
Baldry is pretty fucking obscure and not very significant relatively speaking and had like 12 mentions ever on the board. Him getting fucking semifinals was obviously a sign of meme fuckery.

>>151057043
Yes.
Honestly it's a deserved inclusion. I love the roleplay and OC he gets every year.

>>151057021
It's still perplexing that he beat Roosevelt, who's not only the better Eggman proxy (main design inspiration instead of VA from a cartoon), but also great winner material in his own right.

>>151057056
It's a shame we can't get more cross media characters in

If there's anybody I don't mind taking the title over Johnny it's Spider-Man. Despite all the shit he's gone through he still feels like a quintessential rep for /co/.

>>151057078
I'd prefer Johnny out of the remaining characters but yeah, Spidey does feel like a better representative

>>151057009
oh no nothing like that.. in ms. all-stars i didn't have much time for a drawing, so i said i'd draw the idea i wanted to do during mr. all-stars instead
i wish i didn't say it only to change my mind later, but maybe it was for the best
thanks for your response though

>>151057060
Yeah, I was about to go really hard with Teddy assuming he'd win that match, but when he lost it did admittedly kill some of my interest in the rest of the tournament.

>>151057068
K Rool was only a few votes short in 2018 sadly

>>151054861
Oh this is cool. I hope I have time tomorrow.
Just so I understand, are you guys tracing over the templates that are already drawn?

>>151057162
Not tracing, but used as reference. Let's say each character is serving a purpose where they are standing now and the actions they are taking.

To give you a better idea, here's the draft before Jenny.

>Johnny
>Spider-man
>Grievous
>Kronk
>Skeletor
>Zorak

>>151057150
The what?

>>151056799
She deserves better

>>151054861
I said earlier that I wanted to possibly try something for Grievous, and I actually started something. Here's my progress so far. Too bad it was too late and he's out already, but at least his loss wasn't that bad. I'll keep at it, but if you don't think it's good you don't have to use it. I'm already worried that I made him too huge and I have no clue about the vanishing points here so I winged it.

>>151054476
Thought it was Tanya Vanderflock from The Mighty Ducks at first

>>151057560
Looks good so far anon! Only thing I would suggest is either making his upper body slightly smaller to make room for Raven and so it's more accurately proportional.

>>151057653
To be fair, you could easily shift Raven over a bit if necessary.

>>151057653
I think you're right on the upper body thing. I mean, his fucking forearm is taller than Dr. Mrs. The Monarch there.
>>151057665
That's true but I don't want to shake things up too much for a character that might very well get 8th.

>>151057697
More like Dumb and Gay-ry lol

>>151054861
Who wins out of all these characters? In a battle royale, I think it'd be either Raven or Spidey

>>151058138
Raven or Jenny

>>151058180
Interesting, what makes you say Jenny?

>>151055783
Yikes on bikes

>>151058203
I think she has too many weapons and gadgets at her disposal, probably something with the power of a nuke. First episode alone has her destroying a planet destroying meteor like it's nothing.

If I had to compare, I say she's a juiced up Ironman, and something tells me he's stronger if not just more resourceful than Spiderman.

I don't know how she would fare against the literal spawn of Satan. I don't even know how powerful Raven truly is, but she's supposed to enslave the universe or something. And she has black tentacles, that's fun for the whole family.

>>151058233
Better than kikes on bikes, or a demon on a lemon.

>>151056680
both Batter and Garland succeed in killing themselves but you could argue Jack comes to life in a world without Chaos if FF1's ending text happens in SOP too

>>151057068
you get Zelda and any other character that qualifies because hosts fucked up

>>151058673
Literally no one nominated Beetlejuice the year after he got grandfathered lol.

>>151054448 (OP)
Just noticed Chauvet Cave Bison on that pumpkin

>>151057078
That is like voting Mickey Mouse over Johnny Bravo

morning/afternoon
so for a one-off event, how do you think all-stars has been?

>>151059421
Very underwhelming actually, it seems like very few people actually care.

>>151059421
7/10

>>151057056
>>151057068
>>151057150
This is why we need a white list

>>151059421
It's alright

>>151057068
We have enough characters that are actually from /co/ that we should focus on.

>>151059421
Could be better, could be worse

>>151058859
Fucking how?

>>151057090
>corporate mascots are good actually!

>>151056786
Yeah Ms. 2024 was the start of the Dark Age

>>151059758
Anon, this final four is nothing but corporate mascots.

>>151059807
/v/ would never

>>151057056
Well he's a /v/ character. Of course the roleplay and OC are great.

We should make a stealth Xiaolin Showdown thread to shit on Wuya.

The fact there is only one Mr. /co/ I can say I don't love is impressive. How did we manage hit it out of the park so many times?

>>151059961
Very carefully.

>>151059960
Someone put it up. Press S to spit.
>>151060055

>>151060116
>Press S to spit.
I press S to spit on you for shitting up the board /tnt/ retard

>>151060129
So true NSA.

>>151060149
>muh NSA
yeah because an internet poll being rigged (obviously they always are) is worth throwing a tantrum about years later, it hasn't stopped being rigged just look at the Balls spiderman shit ( I seriously don't understand how their wasn't more drama about that)

>>151060176
Balls is the pet host so him rigging Spider-Man is a okay.

>>151059960
Why would we do that? The only issue with Wuya is her relation to these threads.
When the thread is divorced from the tournament as a subject, why would we shit on her?

>>151060176
Rigged picks are okay if enough people like the character. Eris was also rigged by NSA but people let her back into E8 because chaosposting is fun.

>>151060149
NSA living rent free in you head all these years later means she won

>>151060189
Anon we shouldn't be protecting rigged picks at all.

This reminds of when Kongfags were spamming /co/ trying to prove he was a cartoon/comic pick and everyone got pissed when they realized it was for tourney shit.

>>151060219
The fuck does that have to do with anything? By all means, shit on over her in these threads. But why the fuck would we make a dedicated thread for a show, just simply to shit on a character, when the only reason to shit on the character is in relation to these threads?

>>151060214
Samefagging in the XS thread isn't winning NSA

I'm still voting Grievous 8th for the obvious NSA reason because I think it's fair to the other winners, and also because I don't think Grievous is as good of a character as the other Mr. /co/ winners or as important to cartoons as them, but if he does get 8th, can we not do things like making a whole thread just to mock him? After how rough this and Mr. /co/ this year have been, some normalcy would be nice for the finale.

>>151060242
>Samefagging in the XS thread
unironically take your meds

>>151060245
>leave my rigged picks alone!

>>151059421
It was a mess up to previous threads. It has calmed down in this one.

>>151060245
>for the obvious NSA reason because I think it's fair to the other winners
Fuck off already

>>151060256
you are beyond retarded and I hope your sperging out gets these tourneys banned

>>151060245
I'm voting him 5th because he's my boy, and the NSA connection is nebulous at best.
Voting Zorak for 8th, not because I don't like him, I just happen to like the other 3 more.

>>151060279
Based

>>151060256
It's not about leaving rigged picks alone. A little bashing and joking once in awhile and punishment in the ranking is fair, but we don't need to make whole threads about it and annoy the rest of the board with our autism.
>>151060269
No. I gave other reasons too.

>>151060258
>calmed down
Might have spoken too soon.

>>151060292
>muh fairness
If your reason has anything to do with host drama, it's bullshit. /co/ is no different from /v/ at this point.

>>151060116
Wuya is genuinely a good winner and I'm tired of pretending she's not.

>>151060292
>No. I gave other reasons too.
Interesting how you never bring up Spider-Man rigged in these punishments. Like the other guy said, you can fuck off.

>>151060176
>>151060178
I don't recall if I brought up that topic during off-season last year but I deeply regret doing that post, before I was removed from the poll spider-man had the lead from the start and that lead didn't waver
It's because of that this year I've doubled, tripled my efforts in making sure I don't instigate shit, not only because of the special 8th year but we all deserve to have things run smoothly and not have the threads go to shit
I was a voter and campaigner before a host, I do have bias' to some characters but I would never delete/manipulate votes in an effort to see them win. I want them to win legitimately and sans an asterisk

>we need to PUNISH characters for circumstances no one could have foreseen
Shit like this is why less people are voting in these things.

>>151060332
The thing is we actually know NSA was a biased rigger and liar. What Balls did was retarded, but we don't know how much farther it goes.

>>151060314
Host rigging is kind of a big deal. I don't get why people are suddenly defending it. Don't spam the board with it, but there's nothing wrong with calling it out.
>/co/ is no different from /v/ at this point
I don't want to get into another /co/ vs. /v/ debate, but King's culture sucks all the way. This might be starting something else, but you bringing up /v/ does make me think this might have to do with the Garland rigging arguments from awhile ago and how defensive things got.

>>151060297
It was nice while it lasted

>>151060351
yeah Cap not being let back in is bullshit, not mention how for the longest while these tourneys pretty much punished all capeshit characters over it. That was just absurd overkill

>>151060372
Considering how rigging accusation keep getting thrown left and right to smear characters, are you really surprised that people are getting defensive?

>>151060372
No one is defending it retard, we're telling you to move the fuck on

>>151060382
For fuck's sake people are getting flustered that Cap is doing well in a side coper tourney. There is no redemption unless people decide they like you.

>>151060351
>>151060382
When you win under these circumstances, it's not possible to ever undo the stain it has. Cap at least didn't win, though the host tried, and was really close to coming back this year. The Cap redemption is next year for sure.

>>151060343
Anyways, did you at least get to rape CumAnon?

>>151060397
Moving on is apparently an NSA ideal given how badly people react to being told that.

>>151060372
The problem is we have no evidence of NSA rigging outside of 2023, and the shitshow that was Ms. 2022.
You can't just say "NSA was host that year, so they're rigged" despite no evidence, and former co-hosts saying they didn't see anything suspicious those years.
Also, if we're meant to shit on the "rigged" picks, why the fuck are we singling out Grievous, and not Zorak and Skeletor too?

>>151060424
You never see a cum man

>>151060421
>When you win under these circumstances, it's not possible to ever undo the stain it has.
Says fucking who? Who is the judge of these things?

>>151060432
"You were rigged, he was rigged, he was rigged, I WAS RIGGED, is there any other rigged character I should know about?"

>>151060393
I think there's more to smearing than being convinced a character was badly rigged and deciding maybe they shouldn't rank very high because of it.

>>151060465
Throwing rigging accusation with flimsy evidence is smearing and then saying it’s justifying punishment is smearing, yes.

>>151060421
>He'll have next year, we promise!
Now where have I heard this before…

So from what I gather, this isn't a character contest. Rather than ranking how much we like the characters, we base it off tourney performance, scandals and controversies in the tourney, and whether their silent and Campooners.

>>151060484
I don't want to say but NSA's actions, but NSA's actions. At least we won't need to hear about her much anymore until the /v/ All-Stars and they will care less about it.

>>151060531
They don't care at all compared to the seething hatred /co/ has for her. Wesker went in, got round 3 and no one was really saying anything. It is not going to be a problem over there like it is here.

Even our rigged characters are better than the average King of /v/

>>151060525
>pointing out a character was rigged is the same as all the meta
Spinel and Wuya...

>>151060176
>I seriously don't understand how their wasn't more drama about that
I think it's because the other option at that point was Kermit who's not a real /co/ character and only here because Moot just randomly shoved puppets to /co/. Honestly I have half a mind to nominate Thunderbolt Fantasy characters out of spite

>>151060531
>At least we won't need to hear about her much anymore
She has not been here in two years and people are still talking about her. In ten years you people will probably still be talking about her.

>>151060558
>anti Wuyafag is still whining that is autism is right being called meta
Learn your own tourney lingo.

"Due to recent and constant discontent for these tournaments over the yesrs, the hosts have decided to delete them from history and replace it with a brand new tournament called 'Lady and Lad /co/' which will function exactly the same, only now you don't get to vote at all, everything will be randomized, from the participants to their seeding and the number of votes they receive. And as a display of good faith, we will put Jenny and Johnny as the inaugural winners and we'll rush 7 years of tournaments in a week."

>>151060559
>this nigga AGAIN
And people wonder why we call all stars bad. It's a marathon of every stupid argument squeezed into five days.

>>151060571
The guy making the thread was bad, but we are not actually going to start defending Wuya, right? Right?

>>151060372
>Host rigging is kind of a big deal.
Anon, tourneys are not as big of a deal as you think. Every character is rigged to some extent.

>>151060604
Again NO ONE IS DEFENDING IT. JUST MOVE THE FUCK ON AND STOP OBSESSING OVER NSA AND HER PICKS. FUCK.

Eternal reminder even the wiki article on the NSA's controversy firmly says there's no concrete proof of any of the winners of her era being rigged. The truth is that people want to give those characters shit because NSA supported them. Someone yesterday actually said they would spitevote Blackfire from now own all because she has art of her up on DeviantArt.

>>151060604
I do not regret voting for Wuya even with the controversy and I'm glad she won.

>>151060629
If Shego wins, people will start gunning after her because there was Shego art in her gallery. And if you argue, people will just shout "There's nothing wrong with calling out rigging!"

>>151060610
The every character is rigged argument doesn't work when we have examples of how bad the rigging actually is like a host doing it.

>>151060198
The fact Eris still did well this year even without the benefit of spite or host interference really testifies to her overall popularity as a character. If she can get a good campaign back up and running for 2027, she'll be in a decent position

>>151060649
Again
>>151060629
No. Proof.

>>151060649
>when we have examples of how bad the rigging actually is like a host doing it.
no you have proof of hosts rigging not that it's any worse than voters rigging, like didn't the hosts have to remove like 300 highly suspicious votes for Pomni in 2024

>>151060673
Proclaim the score Chelfags.

>>151060655
Yay, let's reward THIS confirmed rigged pick.

You people take these tourneys way too seriously these were just supposed to be a bit of silly fun

>>151060733
They stopped caring years ago

>>151060692
go back to >>>/pw/ retard

>>151060733
This was supposed to be for /co/ only but that's been long thrown out the window

If we get down to it, the most likely examples of NSA actually rigging are Ms. /co/ 2022 and King of /v/ 2024. The winner of the former was ranked 6th place in All-Stars, and the latter mostly gets shit for being shitposty in-the-moment vote but people barely bring up how the results of the last two rounds don't even exist because it's /v/.

>we shouldn't hate the people that like the characters NSA supported
>we shouldn't disregard what NSA did even if we like the characters she supported like Grievous and Wuya
>it's fair if you want to punish these characters, but don't spam it
>we shouldn't make threads dedicated to whining about the characters she supported because that's retarded and threatens the tournaments
>we shouldn't turn the entire tournament threads into an NSA debate, just vote, make a joke or two, and move on
That's my take on this.

>>151060754
Meant to say King of /v/ 2022, not 2024.

>>151060759
>it's fair if you want to punish these characters
I say even this is ridiculous and I say from both tourneys.

>>151060673
Host rigging is worse because they are supposed to be running things and trying to prevent this.

>>151060759
I'LL STEAL THIS TAKE, NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!

>>151060772
>silent characters must be punished with BBC!!!!
Honestly you people start to sound like speds.

>>151060759
>we shouldn't disregard what NSA did even if we like the characters she supported like Grievous and Wuya
Try telling that to the Xiaolin Showdown thread

>>151060806
Punishing a character for rigging is different from punishing a character for being silent. At least being mad about rigging makes some sense unlike being mad a character is popular in a partially popularity contest.

>>151060831
Both things are out of the character's control

>>151060806
Even /v/ stole that from the Mr. Incredible cuckposting.

This is starting to sound like how /dbg/ throws a fit when a character in their gay little web series loses or wins. These are fictional characters in fanfic competitions. Grow the hell up.

>>151060850
no that's just industryfag taking his forced shit to /v/ with him

>>151060831
Two braindead /co/ takes in one. Nice.

>>151060847
It is, but this is about the event of some random internet popularity contest. I like Xiaolin Showdown and Wuya, but voted her 8th. I'm not going to go outside the threads and start telling everyone why I did.

>>151060930
>I like Xiaolin Showdown and Wuya, but voted her 8th
Congratulations, you're still a fucking retard.

>>151060888
Oh, you're one of those we must punish the silent types to the point you imply it's worse than rigging.

>>151060930
I like this post because it essentially admits tourney meta DOES matter to some extent.

>>151060955
>putting words into my mouth
I can only assume you must like silent shitters if you think people are okay with rigging.

>>151060865
considering all the /dbg/ memes in the main tourney a good chunk of these posters are probably from /dbg/

>>151058859
No, Mickey Mouse would be if Superman won over Daffy.

When you ask yourselves why /a/ and /tv/ and other boards aren't keen on starting tournaments, reflect back on this thread long and hard.

>>151060981
It's a bit impossible to do these without some kind of meta being a factor at some point. I do think some people go too far with it like this retard >>151060988 crying about silent shitters, but going entirely anti-meta will never work.

>>151061003
Superman would be a good winner and is a good character. Mickey should qualify again.

>>151060991
That would explain…everything really.

>>151061020
Oswald qualifying higher and higher, but never Mickey is something strange.

>>151061041
The base state of a 4chan poster is contrarian.
Just about nobody wants to vote or campaign for Micky fucking Mouse, unless there was some hypothetical ironic lens to do it through.

>>151061067
They voted Goofy, the third Disney mascot, into E8; the contrarian angle is losing more and more teeth each year.

>>151061096
His poll image was of him saying "he fucks", and he was receiving high-qualify animation oc of him beating the shit out of his opponents.
Hence, the ironic lens.

>>151061096
It taking this long is a bigger surprise. Goofy Movie threads are constant on the board even before the big nostalgia reached the mainstream.

>>151061067
>Just about nobody wants to vote or campaign for Micky fucking Mouse, unless there was some hypothetical ironic lens to do it through.
>>151061116
This isn't /v/, we don't irony poisoning. I think it's the same problem with Donald; people would vote and campaign for his comics but /co/ doesn't read.

>>151061116
>he only won because of his nigger buff pic!
>he campaigned but it was the ironic kind of campaigning!
Pete…

>>151061041
Oswald is Mickey's Luigi and his prototype. Thus contrarians like him more.

>/co/ is super contrarian you guys, we're counter culture!
>just ignore how Superman and Batman regularly qualify and Spider-Man straight up won
I'm not even shitting on these characters but come on now, /co/ is the least contrarian board in terms of taste.

>>151061124
You mean ironically, right?

>>151061172
Mario at least still qualifies most of the time. Maybe people need to use the Paul Rudish shorts more.

Nigger buff became a term because Geraltfags were upset that Alex did better in his match against Wario than Geralt did in his match against Eggman.

>>151061172
Isn't Mickey's Luigi Donald? Oswald is Mickey's Popeye.

>>151061152
In 2024 and earlier, Goofy was nominated with this picture, or a similar "official art neutral pose", and would consistently get eliminated in the second round.

In 2025, Goofy was nominated with a memey edited comic panel where he proclaims his sexual potency, and he would beat Batman by 8 votes.

>>151061225
I’m pretty sure they were also responsible for making “funny YTPs” a mark against someone

>>151061258
>still clinging to nigger buff bullshit
People genuinely liked the character and there was plenty of nostalgia thanks to a Goofy movie.

Bu Jimmy had a meme pic and still lost in round 1 or so.

>>151061124
No one gave a shit about Goofy, it was just his picture. /co/ is too ironic to vote for Disney characters.

>>151061291
Of course people liked the character, that's why he kept qualifying.
But when a character goes from consistently getting killed in round 2 to suddenly making Top 8, it only stands to reason that something changed.

>nigger buff! irony!
If Donald makes it into E8 next, Mickey should just get an automatic ticket to 128th seed. Because /co/'s contrarian track record gets flimsier every year.

>>151061287
They were. Geraltfags were really sore losers about it and that is probably another reason why people turned against them instead of just Getalt clinging onto stronger characters in duo side tournaments.

>>151061341
Yes, The Goofy Movie was celebrating its anniversary to the point even Disney was making a big deal about it. As anon pointed out>>151061318 you are really overestimating the power of nigger buffs.

>>151061319
I voted for Goofy and Max because I like them.

>>151061387
Sure anon, like I'll believe that.

>>151061386
Alright, now that we've established that Goofy's Top 8 placement was completely expected and in fact predictable, what's your take on why Mickey has utterly failed to match Donald and Goofy's results?

>>151061405
Pete...

Raven managed to win this year despite using her 1980 comic design instead of her 2003 cartoon appearance. People over think the nomination pictures and the effect they have too much.

>>151061412
>Alright, now that we've established that Goofy's Top 8 placement was completely expected and in fact predictable
Anon don't be that bitch no one is saying that

>we've now moved from crying about NSA and her picks to crying about pictures being used
Aren't you having so much fun in these tournaments?

>>151061415
See
>>151061412
Why didn't Mickey qualify? Why doesn't he do as good as Donald and Goofy? Almost like /co/ needs an ironic lens to vote in Disney characters.

Still haven't answered why Jimmy jobs round one despite his funny picture btw

>>151061370
I only remember him being lucky with the randomized seeding giving him a free ride to round 3 by facing other 120th seeds, although Geraltfags will insist it’s a coincidence and get mad whenever you bring it up

>>151061412
>>151061455
I mean, it's pretty obvious, he's just a very bland character compared to Donald and Goofy

Spongebob is on the level of Mickey nowadays and he gets E8 twice so I just think /co/ is cherry-picking and a bit hypocritical in their mainstream tastes.

>>151061470
Because he went up against Ed, i.e. the strongest character to date who hasn't made Top 8 yet

>>151061486
As someone mentioned, someone just needs something to show off a little bit more personality like in the Rudish shorts. But Donald and Goofy are such great characters on their own, it's easy to see why most of the effort goes to them.

>>151061495
His nigger buff should have saved him, damn it all.

>>151061487
I think the answer you are looking for is that Mickey mostly sucks while SpongeBob doesn’t.

>>151061521
Nigger buff gives you the slight push you need in close matchups, it can't save a complete jobber

>>151061527
SpongeBob mostly sucks too anon. He hasn't been good in years and they continue to wring him dry.

>>151061495
>>151061542
Ed is not a strong character.

>>151061416
And don't get me started on the "gif controversy."

>>151061543
On that note, why hasn't the Simpsons made more headway?

>>151061543
Not really.

>>151061558
>the character who has quite literally never been eliminated before round 3, and made round 4 on several occasions, isn't strong

You all aren't beating the anti Disneyand Dreamworks/pro WB and Nick bias allegations.

>>151061581
Now this is contrarianism. SpongeBob going to shit for a while is not a controversial opinion, especially with the uneven qualify of the movies.

Didn't Goofy beat Ed

>>151061617
I partially blame spumfags

>>151061412
>>151061486
>>151061508
Mickey is like the goodey two-shoes face of an evil corporation.

Goofy is the loving father and a silly, clumsy character.

Donald is the sailor mouthed, PTSD having, navy soldier, war veteran, short tempered guy.

>>151061633
And Ed beat the Iron Giant, which still surprises me.

>>151061694
>Mickey is like the goodey two-shoes face of an evil corporation
Not true, he's a detective who works in the shadows, something Steve Englehart noticed.

>>151061694
Donald and Goofy are also the faces of an evil corporation. So are Looney Tunes and SpongeBob to a lesser extent for different reasons.

>>151061633
By that point, Goofy had built up momentum from beating two E8 veterans in a row, and still getting good OC.
And to this day, Ed has only ever been beaten by characters that have made it to Top 8 already, or will eventually.

>>151061558
How?

>>151061577
Kinda reminds me of how the simpsons had not made an elite 8 yet...

>>151058138
Raven by far

>>151061787
because they barely qualify, last time all 3 slots got filled was when it was Sneed Chuck and Moe

You know remember how Bender was able to beat Daffy once upon a time.

>>151061416
I would have been a literature board thread without pictures

>>151061318
Jimmy sucks

>>151054569
Okay help with the side tournaments then, I rarely visit plus4chan so I don't know about the pastebin's date

>>151060782
Let's just ignore Spider-Man again I guess…

Pomni will job in round 1 next year.

>>151061633
I know...

>>151062179
That would be extremely funny

>>151061739
You are right but /co/ does not read his comics

The actual most rigged characters are Recette and Batter.

>>151062179
>>151062217
It's been three years Sam.
You have to move on...

>>151062327
So true /tnt/schizo

>>151061941
The cgi is terrible

>>151062138
>starting this again over an hour and a half later
NSA is also a petty known serial liar and had Grievous as her discord picture. That's more damning than Balls, who isn't known to have done as many bad things as NSA to lose as much trust, copying and pasting that strongest post.

>>151061867
Bender doing a deep run would be nice.

Do people still think every host doesn't campaign and vote off-trip?

>>151062436
Kingbro btw

>>151061172
His personality is just far better developed and unrestricted

>>151062486
B-b-but they're supposed to be running things and making sure rigging doesn't happen…

>>151062457
I have the Mushroom guard from Double King as my Discord picture, and I sure as fuck wouldn't vote for him in this.

>>151062486
They aren't supposed to and still might, but we don't have proof of it. Getting outed for it is a huge scandal and makes the characters they campaigned for look rigged for good reasons. I would hope they don't, but I don't know. It's the same as the every character is rigged idea. We can assume they are, but without proof of it, it is just an assumption. When we get the proof, people justly get mad.

>>151062542
>justly get mad
Tournaments aren't some righteous cause to get angry for

>>151062524
Did you also draw and campaign for him?

>>151062542
>They aren't supposed to
Why not? The only people that'd probably wanna run these things are uber tourney autists. It's kind of ridiculous to expect they wouldn't also participate in it.

>>151062486
As long as they don't pull stupid shit like NSA did in 22 with the "Deleting every vote that voted No to a throw away question/letting someone you know didn't get go through simply to make an epic rugpull, invalidating the entire finale" or in 23 with "Force shard emails, even though people voted against it/hiding the results", then I don't really give a fuck if they have someone they favor.
Just don't make it obvious, and don't fucking rig for them.

>>151062457
>>starting this again over an hour and a half later
Why wouldn't he? You people have been dragging this out for two years now.

>>151062568
Any proof she drew and campaigned for Grievous?

>>151062567
When something people just want to have fun with gets ruined, they are going to get a little mad.
>>151062571
It makes things looked rigged and hosts should try not to be biased.

>>151062217
I don't know about that...

>>151061179
>/co/ is the least contrarian board in terms of taste.
it's not just /co/ 4chan has always loved mainstream popular shit despite their supposed elitism

>>151062610
>When something people just want to have fun with gets ruined
You fags don't have fun with these things; the fact that people are getting angry for years is full on serious business autism.

Noticed how this whole fun bashing NSA pick thing turned sour in the threads when it was turned on Grievous instead of Wuya. Truth is I just don't think enough people care about Wuya so they won't get up in arms about meta spite for her.

>>151062647
The stealth thread proves otherwise but I'm pretty sure those anons stay far away from these things.

>>151062603
https://www.deviantart.com/onlyfansart/art/General-Grievous-in-a-suit-895084788

>>151062647
Grievousfags are just fucking hypocrites who didn't think this would ever backfire on them.

>>151062647
it turned sour because some retard couldn't keep it in his pants and keep it in the tourney

>>151062673
Okay, there's not enough tourneyfags to get defensive about her. Grievous had a ton of support when he was still in. Wuya had basically only NSA and few other pic posters when she started getting far in 2023.

>>151060380
What nice?

>>151062711
>Okay, there's not enough tourneyfags to get defensive about her.
Why even make a division between tourneyfags and regular anons? I thought this was for /co/.

>>151062647
It also helps that there's literally no proof she rigged for Grievous.
23 at least had the unreleased results, significantly increasing the likelihood of bullshit going on behind the scenes.

Augie needs to be slaughtered

>>151062690
Don’t forget about the other characters she campaigned for but are supposed to stop noticing.

>>151062690
Lame, she didn't even use the 2003 design, way to miss the appeal

>>151062738
Because the tourneyfags are the one's that post in the thread and continually try to define the narrative.

>>151062647
I noticed too. I think it has to do with a belief Mr. /co/ winners are flawless and the best. I do belive Mr. /co/ has the best winners, but they aren't flawless. Ms. /co/ is used to bashing on characters and were made numb from Spinel in the second year, but Mr. /co/ isn't, so being confronted with this hurts us more. Even Cap was stopped at the finish line.

>>151062647
I was always against Grievous because he is first and foremost a live action character who technically could be entered into this contest, and shows a love for live action over comics and cartoons
Even if NSA did not exist he would still be my last place choice. He is Batter of /co/

>>151062762
So this really has nothing to do with the board and its natives at this point.

>>151062759
There's always a difference when you actually win.

>>151054476
Losers stream begins in less than one hour playing the stuff in that picture that we didn't see yesterday. If you've got nothing better to do on a Thursday afternoon then stop by and watch some cartoons.

>>151062767
>shows a love for live action over comics and cartoons
How? People on this board have always cared about the Tartakovsky cartoon.

>>151062766
Funny you mention Spinel since she was the big target in all stars and even got eighth seed but Wuya ended up taking the fall. I could see something similar happening here.

>>151062690
Okay, and all the other contestants?
Did she rig for Epona? How about Betty?
Wuya at least has multiple pictures on her page, showing that she's a fan.
Grievous has just that single picture.

>>151062790
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T NOTICE TIGGED PICKS UNLESS THEY WIN
Pick a lane. A rigged pick should be getting shit either way.

>>151062767
Grievous really is the oddball here even without NSA. He's the only one who isn't a major character and from a non-/co/ property.

>>151062826
He's always been one of the most liked SW characters on /co/.

>>151062816
So true NSA bro

NSA also drew Fang's winscreens and even tried to animate Midna's ("she's my only hope left") but nobody brings this up anymore.

>>151062824
I didn't say you can't notice them, but not winning at least gives them a chance for redemption later. It's hard to be redeemed when you stole the crown from everyone else.

>>151062853
We're only supposed to call it out if they win…OH WAIT.

>>151062850
So you have no actual answer?

>>151062843
But that doesn't change my point.

>>151062859
…except if you're Captain America in which there's no chance for redemption ever.

>>151062853
Because Fang, Midna, and Grimm have a lot of fans on /tnt/ always ready to play damage control. It's unironically just that.

>>151062859
Maybe you should prove the crown was stolen first.

>>151062816
She didn't host during Betty.
>>151062853
Maybe we could bring it up some more, but both at least got elite eight before NSA and had a lot of hype going in.

>>151062880
He's also been a pretty well liked character on /co/ in general.
SW used to have one of the most popular generals.
The fact that it's a "non-/co/ property" doesn't really mean much.

>>151062738
>I thought this was for /co/.
It hasn't been for /co/ since /tnt/ became a thing

>>151062882
Cap was only a few votes from qualifying and a lot of people are open about wanting him to get a redemption arc. I'm voting for him next year too.

>>151062921
…unless you're Robotnik

>>151062843
he is THE /co/ Star Wars character, have you people really forgotten about all the Grieve-tan autism and that he is one of the most reposted characters on the board

>>151062924
No you aren't. This is another JC situation where he'll always have next year.

>>151062767
>debuts in a cartoon and most of his screen time is in cartoons
>is first and foremost a live action
you're a retard

>>151062902
And Grievous was the posterchild for memorable campaigns, slowly getting higher and higher seeds each year.
There's a reason he got 16th seed in 21.

>>151062645
I have fun. I like to see how well everyone does each year and the campaigns.

>>151062959
Do you actually like the characters as characters or just in a tourney context.

>>151062951
Sure we all voted Zorak because of the 60s Hanna Barbera show and it came first

>>151062971
Both honestly.

>>151062921
>>151062930
The people who think Grievous is an odd one out have to be genuine newfags.
Like, I get not caring for him personally, but to claim he isn't, or at least wasn't popular on /co/ is just an outright lie.

>>151062954
He also got close to making E8 as soon as 2019, only being stopped by Kronk

>>151062951
Then I guess Anakin and Obi-Wan are also cartoon characters since they have about ten seasons worth of screen time in cartoons compared to six movies.

>>151062950
>just saying I won't
I am, but okay. Also, JC should have won last year, but the /v/ meta wanted the hype Year of Shadow.

>>151062980
There has been little discussion about the characters outside their tourney performances and campaigns. Probably the biggest difference between a native and the tourneyfags.

Meanwhile, /mlp/ is going nuts suggesting anti-rigging measures in their tourney right now

So far they came up with
>checking an individual PC's specifications
>digital fingerprint verification
>meeting IRL and getting the passwords from the host in person
>sending timestamped selfies
>creating a separate website just for voting

>>151062954
That doesn't come close to the insane Primal and Fang Gang hype. Fang was a literal beast.

>>151062996
Didn't debut there, but had they then absolutely they would have been, no matter if the movies are the "main deal".

>>151062996
>Anakin and Obi-Wan debuted in a cartoon
retard

>>151063001
>I am, but okay.
You wouldn't be bringing up "he has to wait for his redemption to come" if you were.

>>151063018
...and we should care why?

>>151063036
Just to feel better about ourselves. People were calling that the more chill tourney a few threads ago.

>>151063036
It's funny

>>151062911
I'm surprised Punisher doesn't do better in these tourneys

>>151062999
Do we think this will help Shadow’s chances at winning King next year?

>>151063018
Do these tournaments turn everyone into a braindead potato?

>>151062767
No one likes live action Grievous

>>151063005
Expected of an All-Stars tournament celebrating the winner histories. Meta will subconsciously dictate some people's choices even if they claim it doesn't, but voting for what I like is mostly what I do while still having gripes about some events.

>>151062853
Midna was already a powerhouse.

>>151063032
>>151063033
You would still have the Marvel comic released before A New Hope to consider.

>>151063055
As discussed because of ONE guy, an entire genre has to suffer in retaliation.

>>151063055
He would definitely feel like a more 4chan core winner than Spider-Man (I'm not saying this to shit on Spider-Man). The chud counterculture pick that Marvel hates, etc. etc.

>>151063035
It's because he was so close to getting in this time and the talk of a Cap redemption is becoming more frequent.

>>151063024
I didn't claim that though.
Grievous was just one of the first character where people actually noticed that a campaign was even a thing that was happening.
In 2018 it was just general support for characters, and Ms. 19 was too preoccupied with Spinel for anyone to truly notice campaigning.
Mr. 19 was when it really started to take form, and Grievous was a major part of it.

>>151063018
unironically /tnt/'s fault as they started encouraging crossboarding there.

>>151054448 (OP)
Tom
Spider

5th Kronk
6th Grievous
7th Skeletor
8th Zorak

>>151063101
>it's okay if a host rigged a winner because they already were a powerhouse

>>151063106
There were live action trailers before the comic release so this even start this again. Arguments like these is how we get Hornet is /co/ and Master Chief is /lit/.

I can't even wrap my head around the point of arguing about this when 1. Grievous already lost 2. It was to Johnny and the second closest margin victory behind Tom vs. Kronk. When Wuya lost to Frankie it was a total stomp, shouldn't that be proof their reception is in fact very different and one is naturally more popular than the other?

>>151063133
He didn't say that. He was saying Midna was actually pretty strong.

>>151063147
Grievous needs to go to the cuckshed

>>151063147
Most people here were not around for 2021 but here for 2023

>>151063137
If trailers meant anything, Jack Garland wouldn’t need his FF1 version to be eligible in 2021.

>>151063168
I'm voting Grievous 8th, but shut up about the cuckshed. We can have him last and not make it a humiliation ritual.

>>151063184
If they're the same character why does it matter? That's a completely different argument; no one is saying Garland isn't /v/.

>>151062715
The silence

>>151063147
It feels more and more like it's just one or two guys who just hate him for some reason.
If this was truly about "NSA rigging" they'd shit on Zorak and especially Skeletor too.

>>151063192
Okay NSA

>>151062853
Just had a funny idea. We should go back in the archives and see how early NSA announced each winner. Would be hilarious if the ones she liked got announced quicker than the ones she didn't, almost like she was salty.

>>151063224
NSA did campaign for Zorak as well, but Skeletor was actually an example of a character that went up against one of her mains.

>>151063224
I think Grievous actually putting up a fight against Johnny really chipped at their narrative.

>>151063150
It's worth mention when Midna actually got very close to losing in the last rounds of the tournament.

>>151063224
I'm fine with those two going to the shed as well
>>151063235
Well looky here!

>>151063226
NSA would vote Grievous 5th and brag about it.

>>151063235
Yeah but it was with results being withheld, which at least would make him the most suspect, even though I don't think he's rigged either.
This just screams performative outrage because someone don't like a certain pick.

>>151063117
If people actually cared, he'd be in right now. As it is people are shocked he even beat Kermit.

Can we stop talking about nsa FOR FIVE MINUTES?!

>>151063292
NSA just flew over my house!

>>151063292
Notice how the thread was basically dead when noone was talking about her.

>>151063292
Stop rigging NSA

>>151063296
What would the Flinstone's version of rock, paper, scissor be?

>>151063312
Early merchandising is always fun to me, because it really shows that they still hadn't gotten the grasp of the whole "homogeneous design" yet.

>>151063194
Hypothetically speaking if Jucika makes elite 8 again next year what exactly is Okay anon going to stream assuming they keep the streaming of elite 8 media idea going? She's one of the few /co/ntestants that rely's solely on comics and not secondary media.

>>151063324
Rock, skin and scissor bird.

>>151063262
Oh. That happened a lot with NSA picks. Zim and Grievous both won by ten votes in an elite eight match.

>>151063292
>92
Shrek is a survivor...

>>151063350
Maybe we can scrounge up a documentary on Pusztai?

>>151063350
He will be obligated to record himself reading the comics for 1 hour. And he must do it with funny voices.

>>151063387
I hope that would happen

What are his chances for next year?

>>151063408
Erects your path

>>151063205
Trailers are not a character’s debut. If that were the case, we pretty much wouldn’t need a FOTM rule. Garland couldn’t even qualify with his SoP appearance.

>>151063292
Shrek for elite 8 2026!

>>151063367
You mean like Jenny, Monarch and Betty?

Where the FUCK is the OC?
Why do we even have an anchor if there's no OC?

>>151063425
I only know that rat from an episode where a rich folks takes the flower of a homeless girl and then marries her out of guilt.

>>151063466
CHECKED AND TRUTHFUL #DAFFYDUBS
VOTE FOR TOM AND DAFFY FOR THE #DAFFYCATS REMATCH

>>151054448 (OP)
Which are your favorite tiles from this year's map?

>>151063436
He would still qualify and you could campaign with his SOP appearance. He is the same character so he already debuted. It is not comparable at all.

>>151054459
Daffy duck oc drawn in 15 seconds

>>151063500
E2 and C3 because #SUPERDAFFYREPRESENTATION baybee

#CHECKED

>>151063465
>Escapes the path

>>151063490
Who are you?

>the hashtag spam starts only after the arguing stops
I'm noooooooticing.

>>151063470
We have a drought of OCs since Mr.

>>151063522
>the path

>>151063436
>Trailers are not a character’s debut.
Cool, let's put Master Chief in a /lit/ contest then.

>>151063470
It's more fun to draw girls

>>151063510
I like it.

>>151063018
All that for stupid horses? Besides, who the fuck they think they are, the IRS?

>>151063560
I don’t see a problem with that, the Halo novel is commercial product.

What feelings that made you feel like this?

>>151063552
Oof, ouch, my nuts.

>>151063592
Care to rephrase that or should I call a bondulance?

>>151063591
The brightest /v/ tard

>>151063235
There is an argument to be made NSA was more biased for Grievous as he was her discord picture and she posted art of him on her deviantart. If she campaigned for Zorak, she didn't care enough to even archive any of it there like some of her other picks. Her deviantart doesn't have all her picks or art though like a lot of her Queen picks, but she has been really reactionary during Queens. She campaigned for Shodan just out of spite and not actually being a fan of her games. Like most people, she definitely prioritizes certain characters she likes over others.

Can we just make these free for alls and let any character in?

>>151063510
Next OP dropped

>>151063470
Like I said, All Stars was an idea pushed mostly by Jenny and Fang fans on /tnt/ so that they could campaign for their girls again. Everything else was an afterthought, including the Mr. equivalent.

>>151063635
>Can we just stop even paying lip service to these being board tournaments?

>>151063470
>>151054459
Fuck it, here's something I quickly did for Johnny in MS Paint.

>>151063644
Probably true. The discussion always leaned towards Ms. /co/.

>>151063668
KINO
THANK YOU JOHNNYCHAD

>>151054494
>Superman
>Captain America
LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN PEOPLE LET'S MAKE THIS THE SUPERAMERICA FIGHT OF THE CENTURY

>>151054476
Losers stream starting in FIVE MINUTES
>Skeletor (The Problem with Power (80s) + The Price of Deceit (2002))
>Zorak (War Next Door + Bully + The Cookout (SGCtC))
>Grievous (Grievous Intrigue + The Deserter)
>Kronk (The rest of The Emperor's New Groove)

ALSO here's a poll for which Tom movie I'll play if he wins: https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVJ9PanO
One for Daffy too: https://strawpoll.com/Q0Zp7eokJgM

>>151062996
I mean Old Man Kobi did first appear in the Marvel comic adaptation of the first film that released before it did

>>151063718
/v/ bro btw

>>151063718
Wait until you hear who Darth Vader’s true identity is.

>>151063668
For a second there I thought he was fat, hahahaha. Good work

>Grievousfags are now trying to get even more Star Wars characters in.
Now THAT is a good reason for 8th place.

>>151063745
no I'm a /co/ anon, I just keep forgetting to nominate them for Mr because I'm retarded

Losers stream is starting NOW, open the link in this pic >>151054476 to join.
First we'll start with Skeletor in the 80s He-Man show. The episode: The Problem with Power.

>>151063764
Fucking jews

>>151063776
/v/ro...

>>151063780
>nominating live action /tv/ characters
Yes you are retarded

>>151063776
/co/sissies...I thought we liked our winners and didn't do humiliation rituals like kingfags...

Here, have random memd

>>151063816
Fuckin hate that jimmy guy!

>>151063797
But King/v/ros would love us to have more Star Wars characters. They vote in off-topic characters all the time.

>>151063847
Miku an AVGN are are /v/core. You wouldn't understand.

>>151063868
Seinfeld is also /co/re why don't they make it in?

>>151063893
Newman

>>151063763
>For a second there I thought he was fat
Fuck it, why not? Might as well train for Frankie.

>>151063776
retard

What are her chances?

>>151054459
Anchoring >>151063913

>>151063868
Christopher Robin too. King only votes for the best video game characters.

>>151063868
>Miku
>AVGN
Fold to PepsiCHAD

How come they never get to the top 128 yet?

>>151063950
slim to none, she's not a very popular BFDI character, even within the niche standards of the tourney.

>>151064009
Who the fuck is this?

>>151063913
Motherfucker!
Made me laugh

>>151064015
Birchy autism, just ignore him

>>151054476
Next on today's losers stream: Skeletor in The Price of Deceit from the 2002 series.
Also here's tonight's schedule for movie night

>>151064207
Out, /v/fag

>>151054459
Is there room for a loser in the MS Paint doodle kino?

>>151064281
Out, Birchy