Thread 151061114

This costume was once considered so sexual that it had to be stripped from the character in a triumphant display of feminism. Now it has a skin in fortnite, a game for preteens. What happened?

>>151061114 (OP)
>Now it has a skin in fortnite,
proof

What
She never got rid of that costume, she just temporarily used a more civvie look for private investigating so she didn't stick out like a sore thumb

MAN NO ONE FUCKING CARES, SHIP YOUR CULTURE WAR SLOP WAR SOMEWHERE ELSE

SAGE

HER COSTUME HAS AN ARROW POINTING TO HER BAGINA YOU CHUDS

>>151061183
who are you arguing with, literally who cares except for a small group of twitter accounts that are more bots than people

>>151061139
Hi Nick Lowe, I know you posted this.
>Take note, superhero fashionistas: Spider-Woman's spinning her hippest look ever.
>After nearly 40 years of the same red-and-yellow curve-hugging tights, Marvel Comics superheroine Jessica Drew is getting a modern makeover. A new costume designed by artist Kris Anka can be seen beginning today when Spider-Woman debuts as a playable character in the Spider-Man Unlimited mobile game, and the fresh threads will be seen on comic-book pages in March when the character begins a new direction in her life in the recently launched Spider-Woman solo series.
>"As much as I'm a fan of spandex and it has its time and place, I felt Jess as a character could move away from that for a good long while," says Spider-Woman editor Nick Lowe.
>"Spider-Man isn't really a detective -- he swings around looking for trouble, whereas Jess needs to go and figure stuff out and dig things up, and you can't really do that head to toe in spandex very well," said Lowe. "To operate on the level she wants to, she needs something that can pass for semi-normal and she can turn it on to crazy if she needs to."
right, it’s not like there’s an incredibly famous superhero detective who wears his underwear and dresses like a bat or anything

>>151061139
>expecting culture warriors to read comics

>>151061327
I do read comics doe

The only exposed skin in the costume is her lower face. That is an absurd claim it was for sexual reasons instead of just making new outfits.

Redpill me on spiderwoman
From little i know of her, i honestly find her a bit boring. It doesn't even have the hook Supergirl and Batgirl have of being related to a more interesting character.
So what's she good for? She has good stories or is she just for jerking off to her ass?

>>151061114 (OP)
It was never about the costume itself. It was about the Milo Manara art with the butt-up pose that got the controversy.
So Marvel had to temporarily get rid of it to cool down the anger.

>>151061183
Remember that Marvel censored the yellow tummy.

>>151062042
Squat the name because a children's show was going to have a "Spider-Woman" character. She had a hastily made up backstory of being a New Man (animals turned into people/furries) which might have been copied from plans for Wolverine, but was quickly changed to a modified human. Her original comic run managed to run 50 issues, but despite 4 of the writers being very famous didn't have much impact and was probably carried by the Spider- in the name. She shifted heavily between writers in personality, tone, and how much you lean into having Claremont's pet characters show up. After being depowered, she appeared sometimes in Claremont-written books. She got repowered again in a Spider-Man annual story written by Gruenwald that I think he died before it was actually published, but was generally ignored. Her big reappearance in the 2000s New Avengers was because Brian Bendis had a crush on her when he was young, but was actually a Skrull posing as her for years of real-time comics (he also wrote another story that changed her backstory yet again). Afterwards she just hung around the Avengers by default. Mostly viewed as a supporting cast member to Carol Danvers because they are friends.

>>151062042
>>151062230
Oh yeah, I forgot something interesting. Her original ends with her dying because Morgan le Fay attacked her physical body in the present with magic while her soul was in the past opposing her alleged archenemy. A spell is placed on people to forget her so they won't feel sad about her death. Of course, it is undone in Avengers not much later.

>>151062042
She's Captain Marvel's waifu

>>151062230
Cogent

>>151062042
Adding to what the other guy said, in those days they figured it would be better to divorce her from Spider-Man and make her completely unrelated so it doesn't feel like she is just tacked on shit like most spider characters these days. Same thing for the next Spider-Woman, Julia, and neither of them really took off all that much. I don't think people particularly dislike either character but they just don't know what to do with them.

It's more like Batwoman or Huntress being kind of on the fringe rather than Supergirl or Batgirl

>>151061114 (OP)
i mean the costume itself was also made into underoos for little girls back in the 70's.
Plus there's a feminist angle in that it was designed by a woman, and you can tell in that it eschews some more obvious sexy elements a man would put in(showing bust or a lot of skin) in favor of shapes that emphasize the curves

>>151061296
>Spider-Man isn't really a detective -- he swings around looking for trouble, whereas Jess needs to go and figure stuff out and dig things up, and you can't really do that head to toe in spandex very well," said Lowe.
Lowe ain't the smartest tool in the box considering Batman.

>>151062092
But Spider-Man literally poses the same way multiple times and no one cares. Feminism was a mistake

>>151062359
Spider man doesn't have a nice ass though so I guess the gays are too blame

>>151062359
Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?

>>151062349
Batman is a) a fictional character and b) DC

>>151061114 (OP)
Tini Howard got to write her and changed her back to her original costume because she used to cosplay as her

>>151062323
If I listen to you people, Captain Marvel probably has a lesbian harem of like 10 people, including a married woman and other people with Marvel in the name

>>151062565
She never got rid of her original costume!

>>151062439
It did. I forgot the issue but he's on a web ball on the cover and his buttcheeks are extremely visible
>>151062379
>Spider man doesn't have a nice ass
That's just like your opinion, bro

>>151062439
Are you high?

>>151062517
Smartest Lowe posting.

>>151062439
According to that one blue chick in FF he has a big butt

>>151062379
>Spider man doesn't have a nice ass
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

>>151062517
>fictional character
Oh shit. I totally forgot spider woman was filed in the non-fiction section.

First they made a stink about that Milo Manara drawing, then they changed her outfit and dedicated multiple years to desexualizing her and making her a cunt to every charactershe interacted with, and now they came crawling back to her original costume.

What was it all for? Was it even worth it.

>>151062658
She never got rid of her original costume, dumb culture warrior

>>151062596
>male heroes where costume hugs every contour of every muscle
>crickets
>female hero where costume hugs her body
>BWAAAAAAAAAA

>>151061144
Sounds like you care

>>151062675
Pathetic attempt to gaslight

>>151062658
It's Marvel. They have some sort of humiliation fetish

>>151062656
>that wouldn't be realistic
>UMMM WHAT ABOUT BATMAN?
kys

>>151061296
Kris Anka is better at designing costumes for men, and even then he has a kind of bad hit/miss ratio.

>>151061114 (OP)
My brother works as some sort of contractor for games like Fortnite and is always telling me "look what character is now in Fortnite/Look at the new collab they are making with this artist/Look One Punch Man characters are in Fortnite/Look Springfield is now in Fortnite" and he never told me about this.

>>151062596
Great job. Now, which one of these are you going to jerk off to?

>>151062755
It was added years ago and OP is ragebaiting

>>151062730
He didn't say ultra realistic, dumdum. He meant relatively realistic in a world where people shoot ropes from their hands

>>151062781
Fine by me. I love ranting about Spider Woman

>>151062757
Neither. Cause I'm not a degenerate

>>151062379
> Spider man doesn't have a nice ass though

>>151061114 (OP)
I’ve read some of her comics, they can be fun

>>151062730
>>151062782
I literally meant the same thing as >>151061296. Lowe was trying to say that "muh sexy soandex not fitting for being a detective" but the most popular superhero of all time is a detective dressed like a bat.
And Anka's design is not that discreet anyway.

>>151062781
At least in Twitter Elon Musk may pay him.

>>151061296
>"To operate on the level she wants to, she needs something that can pass for semi-normal and she can turn it on to crazy if she needs to."
What the fuck does this even mean? She's a detective trying to keep a low profile. So she wears bright colors and a non skin tight costume she can't just wear clothes over. What does she turn on "crazy" for as a detective? To fight? So in the middle of a fight she puts on her costume? Or right before she thinks she needs to fight? Why are all these modern editors so bad at logic and shit like this? They put so much energy into this, and come up with ideas that feel incomplete.

>>151062379
It’s canon he has one of the best asses in Marvel
His ass literally blew his secret identity because the person recognized how big and fat it was
The art just doesn’t do it justice since he’s supposed to have one of those nice asses of guys that do lots of squats

>>151062757
what kind of an answer is that?

>>151063015
A rhetorical one. One of these is a dynamic action shot, and one of them is a glorified modeling photo drawn by a porn artist made simply to titillate. Saying they're the exact same is cope.

>>151062989
Just wear a longcoat and hat over your body when you don't want to be seen. It was solved back in the 1960s.

>>151061114 (OP)
I have always found her fucking lame. Mostly her origin is lame and her costume is just ugly. Plus the precedent it set for Spider-Woman costumes to have an open mouth design is also lame. The web wings are cute though. And the hourglass just looks bad. Only Black Widow really has a good use of that.
At least Julia knocked it outta the park so thanka for that at least.

Mayday is the only good female spider-heroine

>>151062596
wtf is up with spidey’s leg on the right
looks like some hideous arm-leg fusion. where’d his foot go

>>151063134
>>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?
>>shows that it did
>>yeah but that doesn't count.
If you think people don't jerk off to the various pics of muscled up male heroes, you're a fucking retard. How many times do people joke about Nightwing's ass?

>>151061114 (OP)
Spider-Woman exists PURELY to get my dick hard, THAT'S IT.

>>151063144
You just like Julia because her outfit is black and white or you have a fetish for orange hair.

>>151063165
Wrong, Jessica Drew is

>>151061114 (OP)
I never really understood why it was perceived that way. It's just a full body suit like a lot of heroes wear, it just became a trend for a while to draw it more like body paint for some reason.

>>151063178
>yeah but that doesn't count
Because it doesn't. Jessica's ass is getting cleaved like the Red Sea. With the Peter pic, you could at least believe the spandex isn't glued to his asshole.
Even then, the ass isn't the focus of the picture; it's the group of mobsters people has spun up in his webs. In the Jessica picture, she isn't even clinging to a wall upside down or anything. She's on a rooftop, and the only implied excuse for her having her ass in the air is "Oh, w-w-well, she's Spider-Woman!"
>If you think people don't jerk off to the various pics of muscled up male heroes, you're a fucking retard
Cool, guess I'm not a retard then. My point is, would you open a Marvel Swimsuit special and say "Well, this can't be sexual, because the characters strike these poses all the time in the regular comics"? No, because you understand the purpose of the image. You're either lying to me, or you're deluding yourself.

I never get it why the west always tries to censor women, women are supposed to be sexy.

>>151063361
because fuck the "purpose" of the image. It's the same image, now you want to bitch context makes drawing the same thing different. If It was Jessica in the pic on the right instead of Spidey, you would still be bitching because its "sexualizing" her. "Why does her ass have to be on display like that?" Your own previous question proves it. You asked for the same shot, not the same "purpose"
Because you faggots do with EVERY pic of a female superhero, no matter what she's doing. If the costume is just too revealing, if the boob physics is wrong, whatever excuse you can come up with. who are you kidding?

Spider-Woman has a weird smell!

>>151063361
NTA.
Your perception of what you find sexually arousing affects how you perceive things around you. That's just reality. You look at both of those photos, with similar pses, and acribe different context to them more because of your sexual preferences and personal takes on the world, and not because for a lack of or a great deal of, context clues. If you think the Spiderwoman drawing is more provocative it is because a man drew it trying to hit at the same preconceptions and reality views you already have in your head. Ironically, a woman (not a feminist or someone with a political agenda) could admit that both poses could be construed as both sexy, and also understandable given the nature of both heros and what they are trying to convey (ie the movement of a spider/extreme flexibility and athleticism). Something is allowed to be sexy and powerful. Those are literally the ideals art have used for thousands of years. You don't think Spiderman flexing like he is outright sexy, more because of your sexual orientation, and more than likely, your fear that expressing that would make people question that sexual orientation.

>>151061114 (OP)
I won

>>151063652
I like how he mentions the Marvel Swimsuit special in the argument because the Jessica cover was NOT a swimsuit special, it was her regular book, so by his own argument, it cannot be meant for titillation, right?

The problem here is that people want to punish for thought crime. This is pic of two characters in the same pose. Most likely Jessica was drawn for titillation, but you honestly have no clue why Spidey was drawn and the artist could very well have been drawing it for the same reason because ITS THE SAME POSE. He just put some other shit in there to smuggle the fanservice out. You mean to tell me, if the put a tied up crook in the Jesscia cover people wouldn't complain anyway?

People complain about female characters no matter how much action is in the shot because the bottom line is they want to complain about female characters.

>>151063652
Have you looked at Jess's face? Sex appeal isn't really the goal with such a face.

>>151063498
>it's the same image
It's not, and you're retarded.
>now you want to bitch context makes drawing the same thing different
Context makes someone draw the same action in different ways to emphasize different things. You posted an image of Spidey in the same pose, not one where the entire focus of the image in on the fact that his spandex look like they're emerging out of his ass like a tissue box.
>If It was Jessica in the pic on the right instead of Spidey, you would still be bitching because its "sexualizing" her
I would not, because then the pose would make sense.
>You asked for the same shot
I literally didn't. The photo on the left gives the illusion that Jess is stark naked in body paint, as if her vag and pussy were just exposed for the world to see. The Peter one is stylized and exaggerated, but it's presenting nowhere near the same idea.
>Y-y-you're the same as all the feminazis I made up in my head!
Stop.
>>151063652
>the sexual arousal you feel from this comic book cover drawn by a seasoned porn artist is all in your imagination
Why do you faggots have to be so two-faced about this? If you said "Fuck these feminists. I can stare at sexy drawings if I want to", I literally wouldn't give a fuck. You're trying to justify how "totally unsexy" the sexy drawings are, and for what?! What's next? Are you going to pretend Frank Cho doesn't make softcore porn for his covers? Just be honest with yourselves.

>>151062092
Why did Milo draw her as an frog faced alien?

She has one of the sexiest suits imaginable, even though it is relatively simple one

>>151063733
>The problem here is that people want to punish for thought crime. This is pic of two characters in the same pose. Most likely Jessica was drawn for titillation, but you honestly have no clue why Spidey was drawn and the artist could very well have been drawing it for the same reason because ITS THE SAME POSE. He just put some other shit in there to smuggle the fanservice out. You mean to tell me, if the put a tied up crook in the Jesscia cover people wouldn't complain anyway?
Exactly. The assumption that a pose or drawing is sexy because it's a woman and not a man is actually incredibly sexist, which is ironic. Some great sculptors of the past used men as their focal point, and then you find out those sculptors are gay. Does that take away from their art? Can you not look at their sculptures and think "These are amazing. These are beautiful." and not be gay? They just add some meta context. These works are amazing. The artist truly captured their form. They also were sexually attracted to these forms and because of that the forms have an energy and vibrance that he was able to tap into. Same with Spiderwoman.

I agree with your bottom line and mine is this; it's ok for male or female characters to be drawn sexy and cool. They're fucking heros. They are idealized beings. They're exceptional. It makes more sense to make them attractive and dynamic than ugly and dynamic. You're more likely to look at something styled sexy and with energy than something drab. This currrent war against "sexy" by claiming "everything is sexy" is brain rot. Everything is not sexy, and if it was then it would be all wrong by some people's comments.

>>151063733
>the problem here is that [projection]
Holy imagined scenario, Batman.
>this straight guy drew a sexy lady, b-b-but this other straight guy could've also snuck gay fanservice into a seemingly normal Spider-Man cover
Cope of the highest order.
>You mean to tell me, if the put a tied up crook in the Jesscia cover people wouldn't complain anyway?
I never said that. I'm almost sure someone would've. Hell, it's dumb to get mad at the Milo Manara cover, but that one is actually supposed to be horny, and denying that is just pure delusion.
>People complain about female characters no matter how much action is in the shot because the bottom line is they want to complain about female characters.
Very true. Doesn't make the cover any less sexual.

>>151061114 (OP)
Money. No matter how much you try to "modernize" or update for a modern audience.

The Same Old shit sells.

Nobody gives a fuck about the psychological elements of blah blah blah batman villain. They want Batman punching the Joker after he robbed a bank.

Nobody cares about feminism or whatever pet issue. They want their capefu in skin tight costumes.

Money ALWAYS wins.

>>151063779
His faces have always been kind of weird but now that he's old and not as good it's hard to defend

>>151063773
>Why do you faggots have to be so two-faced about this? If you said "Fuck these feminists. I can stare at sexy drawings if I want to", I literally wouldn't give a fuck. You're trying to justify how "totally unsexy" the sexy drawings are, and for what?! What's next? Are you going to pretend Frank Cho doesn't make softcore porn for his covers? Just be honest with yourselves.
I'm not being two faced. I'm pointing out that something being drawn in a "sexy" way is 1) subjective to who is seeing it 2) doesn't take away from it conveying other meaning such as being "spider like" or alluding to "spiderman" 3) is not a sin or excuse to diminish the art style or drawing. You know who those artists are but many people don't. If those people so these drawings of Spider-Woman and Spider-Man they wouldn't assume one drawing is more soft core porn than another. Your meta knowledge is again affecting your perception and reality. It is not THE reality. Just your opinion. That's fine to have but the issue with current era is that social media has made people think their personal opinions of things can or are subjective facts if enough people bleat the same thing. There is no point where that happens. If you don't find Spiderman posed like that sexually arousing that doesn't mean it isn't sexually arousing to someone else. Likewise, just because you find Spiderwoman's exact same pose more suggestive doesn't mean other people feel it is.

>>151063873
>WHAT, SO YOU'RE SAYING A SEXY HYPERREALISTIC PINUP DRAWING MADE BY A GUY WHO MAKES PORN COMICS IS SEXY?! JUST BECAUSE IT'S A WOMAN?! DID YOU KNOW GAY GUYS MADE NAKED STATUES OF MEN?! THERE'S A WAR AGAINST SEXY PEOPLE, AND MY COCK IS A VICTIM!
I hate you so much, it's unreal.
>>151063962
>something being drawn in a "sexy" way is subjective to who is seeing it
Yes, anon, what someone views as sexy is subjective, but implying that this Milo Manara drawing isn't meant to be sexy is just delusional.
>doesn't take away from it conveying other meaning
Crawling around with your ass in the air on a flat surface is hardly spider-like. Bad show, Manara.
>is not a sin or excuse to diminish the art style or drawing
I never said it was. My point is that the drawing is sexy, and people reacted to it as such.
>If those people so these drawings of Spider-Woman and Spider-Man they wouldn't assume one drawing is more soft core porn than another
IN WHAT WORLD?!
>just because you find Spiderwoman's exact same pose more suggestive doesn't mean other people feel it is
One is a stylized cartoon, and the other looks like a portrait of an actual nude model. What fucking level of cope and dishonesty are you striving for here?

>>151063786
The fact that she's consistently drawn with a big butt certainly helps

>>151063498
>pic
What if I want to depict rape for the needs of the story?

>>151063773
see >>151062439
and then >>151062596
and ALL THE FUCKING COPE

same pose, THE END.

>>151062379
Why must you turn this thread into a House of Lies?

>>151064268
And thighs, and hips, and tits

>>151062326
wat

>>151064545
>links original post where I say nothing about the pose, but about the details of the drawing
Uhhhh, OK...?

>>151061327
Fuck culture war faggotry, but imagine recommending people to read Hopeless' garbage.

>>151062379
>>151062439
kek oh no no no

>>151062517
Spider-Woman is a) a fictional character and b) Marvel

>>151062755
tell your brother to leak some

I refuse to believe that anyone is still mad over the Manara pic.
This is a bait thread.

>>151064919
I'm not mad at it. I just want anons to accept that it isn't a "double standard" for people to think a picture that looks fresh out of Playboy is different than a drawing that's much more stylized and nonsexual.

>>151061296
Spider-Man Unlimited was fun. Why did they sunset it?

>>151064334
Ah yes, that period of time when Tumblr took over Marvel comics. I'm shocked we survived.

>>151064992
contract was over or something like that

>>151064797
Holy fuck
>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?

>>151062596 shows Spidey's costume clinging to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin,

take the fucking L.

Anyway, Jessica is still C-tier.

>>151064991
no it's just petty and stupid.
there's nothing wrong with pics that are titillating.
tell me what was wrong with the cover. Can't say it was HOW she was posed because when people tell you other characters are posed in the same way you babble shit like context

so what was wrong with the context>

>>151063911
>Holy imagined scenario, Batman.
Isn't that your whole point about context because both there asses are drawn in the same way. anything beyond that is what you imagine people feel when they draw it or look at it?

>>151064334
Hopeless probably browsed /co/.

>>151065164
>shows Spidey's costume clinging to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin
No, that's just an ass. Jessica looks naked.
>>151065216
>there's nothing wrong with pics that are titillating
I never said there was.
>Can't say it was HOW she was posed because when people tell you other characters are posed in the same way you babble shit like context
I wasn't talking about how she was posed. I'm saying she looks like a buck nude model, while the example of Peter posted just looks like the average level of muscle-through-spandex you expect from comics. Even the Gamora picture in that image is much better, because it looks like actual fabric.
>>151065251
>Isn't that your whole point about context because both there asses are drawn in the same way
But they aren't. One has so insanely much more focus and detail put on it.
>anything beyond that is what you imagine people feel when they draw it or look at it?
Anon, it's... it's Milo Manara.

I'm not trying to take coomer comic book art from any of you, but pretending not to understand why people are upset by one piece of art, but not by another is just another level of baseless delusion. You can acknowledge that something is inherently meant to be sexual without being ashamed of that. Be for real.

>>151062596
Imagine spreading your asscheeks wide open like that and feeling tight spandex on your stretched out asshole

>>151065383
A LOT of personal commentary with YOUR interpretation instead of the base fact its two characters drawn the same way just like>>151064648

I mean, I'm honestly trying to understand what your point even is. You need an exact identical picture except with peter parkers photoshopped on instead, for you to admit spidey has been drawn with his ass on display.

and if you have no problem with titillating poses what are you even arguing?

>>151065383
>it's Milo Manara.
and YOUR imagining why he was hired to draw a MARVEL COMIC'S COVER.
Holy imagined scenario, Batman. Or are ONLY YOU just allowed to INTERPRET shit?

>>151065415
Women in yoga pants feel this everyday.

>>151065565

NTA, but are you saying they didn't get Milo Manara to draw sexy ladies?

>>151063165
Mayday losers seethe at Spider-Gwen’s allure with the normies

>>151065584
I'm saying someone bitching about imagined scenarios doesn't then get to imagine the reasons behind a drawing.

He asked for instances where spidey was drawn the same way, got them, and then started goal moving, saying it's the context that matters and the amount of detail and if mercury was in retrograde when it was drawn. Apparently it has to be the same artist, drawing the same exact picture, probably at the same time before he'll accept that male characters are drawn in the same poses and tight costumes all the time but it's only an issue when its women

>>151065605
Funny to say that when she’s just repeating mayday’s storylines and now she’s goon bait with them setting her up with Silk

>>151064991
You know as well as I do that you're not going to convert anyone. You just can't let it go. I suspect that you don't read comics. You're just culture war shit posting. Welcome to the club, I guess.

>>151065527
>instead of the base fact its two characters drawn the same way
It's the same pose. They aren't drawn the same way at all.
>You need an exact identical picture except with peter parkers photoshopped on instead
Yes.
>for you to admit spidey has been drawn with his ass on display
>>151062596 is not Peter's ass on display. It's literally just there. Jess' ass is the whole focus of that picture. >>151064648 is a better example, but even if it's supposed to be titillating, 1) the ass isn't nearly as detailed, and 2) it's literally being blocked in the picture.
>if you have no problem with titillating poses what are you even arguing?
I'm saying there's a difference between one artist's rendition of a pose and another's based on the purpose of the image.

>>151065697
Gwen does it better.
Including porking Black Tarantula Jr.

>>151065661
>He asked for instances where spidey was drawn the same way
You have to be illiterate to not understand what I'm saying.
>male characters are drawn in the same poses and tight costumes all the time but it's only an issue when its women
It being "an issue" aside (it isn't), one looks like a pinup. Stop being hopelessly retarded.
>>151065730
>I suspect that you don't read comics. You're just culture war shit posting.
You're making up reasons in your head to not accept what I'm saying.

>>151065312
How are these women so bad about being mothers?

>>151061114 (OP)
She’s got a nice brapper

>Marvel interns pretending Spider-Gwen is anything but a shitty fad they're forcing on people
Lmao

>>151065843
Carol's baby was born as an adult so it's not like she had to do any work.

>>151065843
by being written like eye candies for millennias but when the appeal catches up to the character design everyone becomes clueless on how to proceed

>>151062596
Variant drama is some of the most peak retardation of all. Variants are for whale consumers, collectors and others. Batgirl had a Killing Joke variant for the anniversary and people all kicked off at how vile and triggering that was.

Not a variant drama but I remember when the Ghost Spider "creator" (he didn't create Gwen so fuck him) complained about Frank Cho making a sexy Ghost Spider pin up, saying that it was objectifying his "baby" even though Marvel had official variants that made Ghost Spider sexy..

>>151065807
I don't care what you're saying one way or another. I love it when they sexualize characters, I'm never going to feel bad about it- ever. I'm far more likely to buy a comic with a ton of tits and ass in it than otherwise.

>>151061114 (OP)
>This costume was once considered so sexual that it had to be stripped from the character in a triumphant display of feminism.
what? that never happened

every spider-adjacent character who isnt peter parker, eddie brock, or miguel o'hara is mega shit and should just be deleted.

>>151065807
>You have to be illiterate to not understand what I'm saying.

What you're saying is what your said, and then how your argument will change very five minutes.
You were wrong, that's it.

>>151065768
>I'm saying there's a difference between one artist's rendition of a pose and another's based on the purpose of the image.

okay WHY are you saying that. is this an argument for...something.

because originally the cover was controversial because they said it was sexualizing Spidergirl until people pointed out other characters have been in the same pose.

so now, it's INTERPRETATIVE because you CAN'T know what the intentions are behind all the other drawings, and you made it clear that we can't have "Holy imagined scenarios, Batman."

so either we're imagining what the reasoning is behind all the pictures are we aren't. if we aren't, then it's just the art which is characters with their asses in the air which people WILL find titillating on BOTH. Just because YOU DON'T doesn't mean shit.

If its' assuming what the purpose is behind the pics then YES we can suggest all the pics of male heroes with the spandex tightly caressing the asschecks and muscles were drawn for as much titillation as the female pics. Considering how many gay men and women draw and read these comics, it's stupid to suggest otherwise.

if , in fact your are just suggesting that this cover need to be duplicated identically with a different head for no reason at all, then you're either full of shit and ran out of real arguments or you're mental.

>>151066838
>I love it when they sexualize characters
>I'm never going to feel bad about it- ever
What have I said that would make you believe I care?
>I'm far more likely to buy a comic with a ton of tits and ass in it
Yeah, that's kinda why they do it.
>>151067588
>then how your argument will change very five minutes
It's been the same the entire time, but OK.
>because originally the cover was controversial because they said it was sexualizing Spidergirl
It just blatantly is. There's nothing wrong with that, but it is. When Spider-Man is drawn in the same exact pose, it doesn't look like a naked pornstar, because more comic artists aren't out to sexualize Spider-Man.
>you CAN'T know what the intentions are behind all the other drawings
Literally just look up "Milo Manara art" on Google Images and stop being dense.
>people WILL find titillating on BOTH. Just because YOU DON'T doesn't mean shit
One looks functionally naked. I don't know how I can make it clearer.
>all the pics of male heroes with the spandex tightly caressing the asschecks and muscles were drawn for as much titillation as the female pics
Female characters objectively get sexualized more, and you'd have to literally never have read a comic ever not to see that.

>>151068481
>What have I said that would make you believe I care?

maybe the nonstop replying, but no you don't care.

>Literally just look up "Milo Manara art" on Google Images and stop being dense.

so if Milo gets bored and doodles a dog, it's automatically sexual or is it just your opinion on what counts and what doesn't. Holy imagined scenario, Batman.

I like Ultimate Jessica. And that other series of comics she appeared in...

>>151068481
>Female characters objectively get sexualized more,
>objectively
opinion stated as fact.

and even if it was true, what is the problem with that?

women are actively sexualized
men are passively sexualized

>>151063498
Characters aren’t real. They don’t have feelings or give a shit about consent.

>>151068585
but women have to feel victimized SOMEHOW

What are her best comics?

>>151061114 (OP)
>basically niwab
>sexual costume
What?

>>151063354
That's how these costumes should be drawn

>>151061114 (OP)
>>151061183
This skin was a fucking disappointment. No ass

>>151068519
based
Ultimate Spider-woman was kino (like most of the original Ultimate run, really); also I had a very strong crush on this version of her for some reason, she looks weirdly way more sexier than standard Spider-woman to me for some reason and I can't explain why even though it's a simple design

>>151068649
The ones featuring her drawn sexiest. She has no good stories.

>>151068772
>The ones featuring her drawn sexiest
John Byrne tried that with Sensational she-Hulk and it still flopped

>>151068512
>so if Milo gets bored and doodles a dog, it's automatically sexual
Sure, just keep being intentionally dense.
>>151068537
>opinion stated as fact
>opinion
>t. never read a comic book in his life
>and even if it was true, what is the problem with that?
There... there is none??? I just want you to acknowledge that it's true.

>>151068564
This, but one is clearly more prevalent than the other.

>>151068649
Anon. She has never starred in or even appeared in a single good comic.

Shes not even a good spiderwoman. Shes not even the hottest.

>>151068649
>What are her best comics?
There are no good JessDrew comics desu. She's one of those characters who's only claim to fame is being the first Spider-Woman, and even then she's not even the most memorable one. That would be Julia Carpenter.

>>151063165
I liked Julia when she was a Wacko

Would you say that her costume is a good one? Why or why not?

Tbh I'm happy someone like Gwen from the Spiderverse movies can casually wear something that a hooker or a stripper would wear and no one bitches about it

They added her to Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 and then never brought her back to any other game. Sad.

>>151069645
I think it's good.
It's pretty simple, but it works just fine. The yellow diamond thing makes the front interesting to look at. Her web wings are pretty cool and sets her apart from spiderman.
And her mask just being a band that shows her hair is great. Any heroine that shows hair, even when using a mask is great as a far as i'm concerned.

>>151069759
>Her web wings are pretty cool and sets her apart from spiderman.
But Spider-Man had them first

>>151063166
It's bending at the knee and going behind the ball.

>>151069774
Damn, i'm a fraud.

>>151069288
>I just want you to acknowledge that it's true.
why?
You say you have no point to any of this. I think you're full of shit. you seem to think there's an issue with women being presented as sexy otherwise, you wouldn't keep posting about it. If you kept posting about how oranges are orange people would start to assume there's a reason you need everyone to know.


and I don't believe your opinion anyway.

>>151069288
>Sure, just keep being intentionally dense

You're the asshole that simply says "Milo" like that alone is enough proof of something. So is everything he draws automatically sex or is it possible for him to do other work?

>>151070019
>You say you have no point to any of this
It's not an argument, it's just a statement. I can see you're trying to get me to express some kind of disdain for the art you like so you can rope me into whatever group of wokies you seem to hate so much, but I'm just speaking my mind. You responded to what I say, so I respond to you.
>and I don't believe your opinion anyway
If you don't believe women are more sexualized in comics, you're a genuine bonehead.
>>151070035
>So is everything he draws automatically sex
I have literally never seen him draw a woman that didn't look like an absolute whore. The Jessica Drew drawing is no exception. It looks like bodypaint, not fabric. Now stop responding to me with the same exact retarded fake devil's advocacy routine.
If you know his catalog, you know what kind of art he's famous for making, and you know why Marvel hired him.
If you don't know his catalog, shut the fuck up.

>>151070160
Anon. The art is hot and makes my cock hard. That's what it's there for.

It's like a man bitching when I write spicy/erotica for a woman online or a story. It's not for you

>>151070160
>Out of the blue I just decided to say Oranges are orange over and over. Why do you think I have a reason?

I have literally never seen him draw a woman that didn't look like an absolute whore.
what you have or haven't seen doesn't count as objective fact. especially since he DOES draw lots of non porn stuff.

so now that "Milo" itself is no longer any actual argument and you stated your one statement with no reason behind it. Theres really no reason for you to keep responding right?

but I bet we'll get 50 more posts about this right?

>>151070190
>The art is hot and makes my cock hard. That's what it's there for.
Haha, yeah, cool. Then tell that to the retard below you. I don't think he gets it yet.
>It's like a man bitching when I write spicy/erotica for a woman online or a story. It's not for you
>bitching
I've literally been saying the same thing as you this entire time. Insecure faggots just keep getting defensive about it. They either go:
>NO, THIS STUFF TOTALLY ISN'T SEXUAL! ARTISTS DRAW SPIDER-MAN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY! I SWEAR! PETER PARKER APPEARS ON COVERS WITH HIS BACK ARCHED LIKE A BIMBO CUMSLUT COVERED IN RED PAINT ALL THE TIME! YOU CAN'T PROVE THIS PORN ARTIST WAS HIRED TO MAKE PORN!
or
>YEAH, IT'S SEXY! ARE YOU MAD?! HUH, MORALKEK?! I LIKE BEATING OFF TO SEXY PICTURES OF WOMEN! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?!
They've been going in circles for hours. I'm tired.

This thread is seriously lacking in cheesecake.

>>151070337
49

>>151061114 (OP)
Because modern feminism is retarded. They have short attention spans to their outrage and move to the next thing to freak out on. They can't focus on multiple things.

>>151068972
I heard his run on she-hulk was good though?

>>151068649
I want to sniff

>>151068649
The closest thing Jess has to good comics are her Pre-2000s stuff, technically Secret Invasion, and the 2016 pregnancy run. She's genuinely not a very good character and the writers don't seem to know how to remedy that.

>>151071439
Secret invasion was awful and her pregnant comic run was so fucking awful it permanently ruined her character.

Shes literally a meme to normie men.

>>151071857
Yeah you're totally right. What the fuck was I thinking?

>>151068519
I like them both and wished they interacted.

>>151068649
>>151068772
I tend to like the Pacheco and Perez ones. It's basic, but Jessica is drawn really well there, despite the shitty new suit that she ditched immediately like Ben Reilly did.

I hate Californians

Jessica should be a Batman-like detective superhero, but without the cringe edgyness.

>>151071439
UNF look at that body!

>>151072471
Good Ol Frank

>>151072744
Jessica exists to be a fanservice character. No amount of grrl power writing will ever change that.

>>151062230
>She had a hastily made up backstory of being a New Man (animals turned into people/furries) which might have been copied from plans for Wolverine, but was quickly changed to a modified human.
With Wolverine, it was an idea Claremont had that he quickly dropped after barely beginning to hint at it. In both cases, people within Marvel decided that making these characters hyper-evolved animals instead of people would hurt their appeal to readers.

>Her original comic run managed to run 50 issues, but despite 4 of the writers being very famous didn't have much impact and was probably carried by the Spider- in the name.
Judging by the covers, she seems to get tied up a lot compared with other heroines of the era, which maybe had something to do with her book outlasting all the other late Bronze Age Marvel heroine books. Despite her name, she had nothing at all to do with Spider-Man.

>>151062339
>Same thing for the next Spider-Woman, Julia, and neither of them really took off all that much.
Julia got a big introduction in the first Secret Wars, but 1980s Marvel didn't know what to do with her afterwards, she barely escaped getting sucked into the X-books as the one actual unironic good person on the Freedom Force team. She didn't really take off until the 90s, when she joined the West Coast Avengers, and quickly became one of the most popular members of the group. The Avengers getting cut down to one title for Heroes Reborn/Heroes Return, and John Byrne creating a new teenage Spider-Woman, then Bendis bringing Jessica back all contributed to relegating Julia to limbo and nobody who started reading comics after the mid 90s even really remembers her much from anything before she got turned into the new Madame Web.

>>151062379
>>151062439
The shit tourists will say.

>>151073943
Things people who read comics notice.

>>151073992
>skin-tight spandex... is skin-tight?!
I'm tired of pretending women are equals.

>>151073871
Hangman should have been more reoccurring.

>>151074370
Gypsy Moth too.
Everyone they give Jessica a new series they never focus on her original rogues gallery. Stupid.

>>151063498
>because fuck the "purpose" of the image.
Context is bad now?

>It's the same image
Nah, Spiderman's wedgie doesn't even go that far in compared to Spiderwoman. Spiderwoman is also wearing a single tone suit and just crawling around, spreading her buns. Spiderman is in an action pose, capturing criminals and his suit has a lot more detail breaking up his physical form. Which isnt exaggerated that much in the picture, whereas Spiderwoman barely has a waist. The perspective for Spiderwoman highlights her big dumper and its spread, Spiderman's perspective emphasizes his action pose. What's Spiderwoman's action, boofing? A design can be sexy without being this poorly realized and rendered. This was just some horny guy slapping down a check spread that could've come from any character because its characteristic of like none of them.

>>151063773
>Why do you faggots have to be so two-faced about this
He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to both enjoy the gooner slop and never have anyone point out that its gooner slop. It has to be ok for him to have a borderline addiction to hypersexualized media marketed towards children and teens, but we are absolutely forbidden from questioning the ethics or aesthetics of this. Everything is good and fine and normal, dont ask questions. Just goon. Don't make anything new, enjoy the spread.

I would like to enjoy Jessica's spread

>>151074024
Then move onto to accepting they are, idk what you're even asking for at this point pal

>>151074393
It is interesting because she kind of absorbed some of people who were more directly connected to Jack Russel or Shroud and in turn you had a group that had a bunch of her more reasonably powered opponents, but don't actually interact because of timing.

>>151074393
^Every time

>>151074024
>If I miss the point long enough, it will cease to matter.
It won't.

>>151072164
I think her stupid relationship with Hawkeye was worse

>>151065768
How far are you going to move the goalpoast in your next reply? How heavy is it?

>>151075163
He's been with women that would do worse than threaten him with a knife.

>>151061296
When was the last time Castle wore this?

>>151075185
You're just stepping backwards, anon.

>>151062439
lol. lmao, even.

>>151062379
baka

>>151076554
Closer, but it's gotta look like the suit has a buttplug attachment.

>>151075163
She should have hooked up with Shang Chi

Only comic virgins and jealous fat chicks would think Superthots wouldn't want to thot it up and wear stuff like Spiderwoman.

>>151076554
This was so out of the ordinary for a man in a comic it became a meme. Hell, while its sexy its still pretty obviously just poorly framed and trying to highlight Pete's youth vs Cap's experience. You're copeing. Just say you have double standards and are willing to accept bad art if its degrading to women. Like, be yourself for once lol.

>>151076615
Right whereas you as a buxom woman definitely know about not just art, but women

>>151076622
>ordinary for a man in a comic it became a meme
Tourist faggot detected. Read nightwing and then kys

>>151076615
>this art is very sexual
>"No it's not. Male heroes constantly get drawn like this."
>no good evidence
>"Well, there's nothing wrong with making /co/ girls look hot!"
>nothing said to the contrary, the art is just sexual
>"No it's not! This is exactly how Spider-Man gets drawn!"
>no good evidence
>"Well, we can look at sexy art if we want to!"
>nothing said to the contrary, the art is just sexual
>"NUH UH!"

>>151076646
If you've been to a gym or Halloween party you'd know.

>>151076734
OK, so how do (You) know then?

>>151076732
>arguing with yourself
You are supposed to disguise your strawmans lmao

>>151076732
>Covers eyes and refuses to see the evidence posted
>reeeee!! No gud evidence!!! Reeeeee
God damn, the soiboys are out in full force today

>>151076749
>entire thread has been like this for going on 24 hours
>strawman

>>151076748
Because I've seen women wear stuff like that at the gym and halloween parties among other places.

>>151076770
So why are you responding to me with your little greentext fake argument again?

>>151076732
>gets BTFO by pictorial evidence
>shifts goalposts
>still gets BTFO
>continues to shid n piss himself in anger
lol K

>>151076709
Oh wow, one guy. Maybe. If I fake you on faith and don't look up Nightwing. Now I totally think Spiderwoman spreading her asshole was superheroes.

>>151076734
Right yeah of course, except not everybody is wearing the skin tight attire youre imagining at those events. And at those events they're real people going to do something. In a comic book, they're an intentional design posed for specific actions in specific frames. I would wear a tight dress to the club, I wouldn't wear a tight dress everyday of my life. I would wear yoga pants at the gym, I'm not going to wear them while landscaping. Spiderwoman's design and pose are intentional and the intention is sexualization at the cost of dignity. It fucking sucks. Its silly even if its hot to be like "oh wow spread asshole", ultimately its just not a dignified or empowering stance for a hero. Captain America has first rate cum gutters, but we dont make a meal out of his abs every page.

>>151076768
Nothing posted looks anything like this. You faggots don't read comics, and you can't even be bothered to read the English language. You just like beating off on /co/, but you're too insecure to own it.

>>151076827
you sound like a fat guy pretending to be a fat woman

>>151076732
Thats what I'm saying dude. They cant even just be immature and own that. What kills me is this insane need for everyone else to be as dumb as them, to be dragged down to their level. I can accept you see a picture of Batwoman idk wiggling her ass in front of the camera and you get your rocks off to it, it'd be nice if these people could understand everyone else wanting something a bit less porned out.

>>151074461
>faggots who skip the entire thread so they can repeat the same bullshit that was refuted hours earlier

>>151076827
You said it was out of the ordinary, got proved wrong AGAIN and still insist on throwing a tantrum like a petulant child.
Do you have some sort of humiliation fetish?

>>151076859
You wouldn't be a good judge of that desu. I sound like whatever voice youre giving me in your head, which I assume yeah is probably alternating fast between "ugly man I feel better than" and "large breasted woman I need to feel better than". You're projecting. At any rate, youre also wrong and unable to be yourself. Just be a fucking coomer. I miss the old weebs you know? The ones who didnt try to make me agree its deep to have fanservice. Just say "I crank my hog to this" and move on you ditz.

>>151076870
Oh it was refuted? Show me

>>151076892
Mmm no, everything I said is fact and youre just whining about it. Must be one of those days ending in Y!

>>151076902
Stfu fatass.
Amazing how a pic of an attractive woman can trigger the fat predditors and troons on this board

>>151076866
>everyone else wanting something a bit less porned out.

Except the jerkoffs arguing this shit earlier said they had no point and wanted nothing. they were just stating things. see >>151070160


mostly because if they admitted like you said they WANTED something else people would happily tell them there are other comics and other covers and that maybe everything isn't for you.

But we already have a whole thread of discussion and now it's time for the latecomers to skip all that and rehash everything

>>151076902
You sound very upset over this. I must have nailed you perfectly lmao

>>151076918
Uh, no you moron youre beneath me. You jerk off to comic books and then refuse to admit that you like sexualized comic book art. Instead you throw a tantrum asking everyone else at recess to play along with you and your fantasy of normalized wedgies. Getting upset at me online doesn't change that.

>>151076931
Uh, *imagines youre fat* you sound really hungry right now >:]

>>151076937
Lol. Fatty is malding

>>151076915
I'm not posting the entire thread all over for you faggot.

here >>151065164
>>151065383
>>151065527
>>151065768
>>151067730
>>151068481
>>151068512
>>151069288
>>151070019

that's just some of the back and forth people already had about this.

>>151076918
If you consult the chart, you're about right here.

>>151076918
kill em, king

>>151076954
*imagines you're happy*
Im glad I could fix you

Lol no look kidding aside, what I'm doing is like mock exasperation. Its comedy you know? Do i think youre out to lunch and stupidity? Yes. Am I going to lose sleep over it? No.

Like I'm sorry youre upset but my points are ironclad, unrefuted and obvious. You're just in a bad state of arrested development.

>>151076918
troons having a melty over this one

>>151076847
what about this or this
>>151064648
>>151062596
>No it's not EXACTLY 100% identical. I mean, sure, we can also clearly see the outline of each cheek and wedging of the costume up his ass, but it doesn't count because uhhhhhh, well, the intent is different which I know because I can mind meld every every artist who draws every piece ever, and plus Milo drew the Jessica one and he only draws porn except for the hundred and hundreds of times he doesn't.

>>151076964
None of those refuted my points lol

Its a ridiculous drawing of a ridiculous pose designed entirely to be erotic at the cost of dignity. Unlike how for example I'm going to wear a morticia adams dress tonight on a temporary basis because its hot despite being hard to walk in; comic book art is intentional and aims for iconic permanent status. Its not a real person dressing up for a day. Its a crank off fantasy.

>>151076998
>Lol no look kidding aside, what I'm doing is like mock exasperation. Its comedy you know? Do i think youre out to lunch and stupidity? Yes. Am I going to lose sleep over it? No.
lmao

>>151077024
Its a different pose, with different angles and while for Spiderman it's an action pose capturing bad guys; for Spiderwoman she's just stuffing her hole with spandex because the artist thought it was hot. Is Doctor Octopus drawn the way he is because the artist found it erotic? Doubtful. Spiderwoman? 100% obviously and you'd be dumb to say otherwise. Thats the issue too, is wanting us to say otherwise. You cant just accept being a pervert.

>>151077041
Ignoring the evidence again. Time for your nap, kiddo

>>151077024
>ALL THREE OF THESE IMAGES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, TR-TR-TROOOON!
One looks like a naked pornstar in bodypaint, retard. Denying this idea doesn't make it less true.
>>151077041
>comic book art is intentional and aims for iconic permanent status. Its not a real person dressing up for a day. Its a crank off fantasy.
Based and true. Tell that to the horde of faggots having a melty over the fact that their jerking material is sexual.

>>151077073
>lmao
Lol no look kidding aside, what I'm doing is like mock exasperation. Its comedy you know? Do i think youre out to lunch and stupidity? Yes. Am I going to lose sleep over it? No.

>>151077084
Ah running away from my evidence and logic again eh? Fitting. For a bitch, bitch. }:)

>>151077078
>and while for Spiderman it's an action pose capturing bad guys
And for jess it's climbing up the side of the building

>>151077108
>not on the side of a building
>ass spread
Try again.

>>151077101
Shit I mean they know its crank off material, even theyre not that stupid. They're just sort of embarrassed and ashamed of themselves. Probably because they know enough of culture to know it isnt all jerk off material, so they're the odd man out. Its why its so important they convince us that its actually just normal and tasteful art. We can accept that theres art with many different degrees of sexualization, for these guys if thats true then what does it say about them when all they can consume is goonslop?

>>151077041
>rambles on about their costume
what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
> intentional and aims for iconic permanent status.
again, what? what are you babbling about?
It's a drawing, as people have asked before and no one has answered, even if it was for titillation, so what?

but, of course, what it REALLY comes down to is NOTHING is allowed to exist unless people like you want it. Otherwise is that garbage you just spurted (the cost of dignity, ITS A FICTIONAL PERSON).

>>151077108
I dont even get climbing tbqh she looks flat to the surface with no verticality besides the rolling curves of her fartmaker

>>151077127
see >>151077130
you're not fooling anyone >>151065216.
It was a VARIANT cover, which means there were alternatives and You all STILL couldn't let it fly.

>>151077101
They all look like naked pornstars you dumb shit, how often do do things crouched like that with your pants hugging each cheek?
(but no, I took my magnifying glass and Jessica's costume is 2 millimeters deeper, CHECKMATE)

also >>151077130

this bitch sucks, but it ain't us

>>151062439
>>151062596
vacuum sealed bodysuits are the norm for superheroes. and since most of them have perfect bodies, this often includes a nice butt. the difference is in the framing. even from the thumbnail alone, you can see Jessica's butt clear as day, because that's what the artist wants you to see. this drawing is focused on her butt. same pose, different framing.

>>151077130
>ignoring costume design
Respons to the argument, its part of the intentional art

>again, what? what are you babbling about?
In short, "its a drawing".

>even if it was for titillation, so what
There is no if. Its for making you horny. "So what" is our stance you know, like ok its horny.....so what? That makes it good? Its a ridiculously flat pose with nothing going on but her twerk balloons getting plastic wrapped tighter than my kids turkey sandwich. What we're mocking is you for acting like it isnt just pin up coombait. This ain't fucking Frazetta, this isnt even Wayne Reynolds. Well ok it is on my par with Reynolds to be fair.

Fat landwhales on defense mode because their jealously got covers pulled and now acting like they're the put upon ones.

>>151077152
Sometimes, and I know this is hard to hear, but sometimes youre going to like something and other people.....won't.

I'm glad the rest of the country learned that wearing sexy 1 piece skin tight backless leotards (is that what they are called?) with that little intentional ass cleavage cut to it while doing squatz and barbell hip trusts at the gym is sexy and empowering and it's just jealous troons and old fat chicks that think otherwise.

>>151077201
but I will say this cover's pretty tame, all things considered. there are far more scandalous Marvel comic covers out there. I don't know why this one was deemed worthy of discourse as opposed to, I dunno, something like this.

>>151077209
I'm 44 33 45, I'm fine, I could be built like you of all things still be right. You're the one who is upset we won't pretend the art isnt sexualized. Well it is. And thats fine, but it isnt enough to carry it for us. Whining doesn't change our minds either.

>>151077203
nobody was talking about the quality or artistic merit and you know. people asked for and I quote
>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?

people showed that it did and out came goal posts about context and framing and everything else.

and again, even if it is to make people horny SO FUCKING WHAT?

>>151077221
OK, so next time youre at the gym go show people that spiderwoman pic and ask them if its sexualized. I imagine you'll be telling some cardio bunnies to lose weight after they look at you funny.

>>151077219
and when those people wont, it has to not exist right? It's too hard for THEM to understand that not everything is made for them right?

because they're the one that had the cover pulled and its not the first time.

>>151077252
that...answers nothing I said
You had a cover pulled because you didn't like it, you're not the victim. you're the asshole

>>151077209
>>151077221
>whenever something makes me mald, it's a troon or a fattie
Grim.

>>151077263
>nobody was talking about the quality or artistic merit
Actually that is *the* topic at hand, with Peter never being sexualized like Spiderwoman was being just one brick in that wall.

>SO FUCKING WHAT?
Little man I'm not putting you in time out Jesus christ. Overly sexualized art with nothing else to it isnt our cup of tea, ok? We want something more interesting to us. And we're mocking you because you're looking at Spiderwoman spread her asshole, then looking at Spiderman beating up bad guys and thinking "oh yeah this is the same image"

>>151077318
they're the ones that usually do this cancel shit because it made THEM mald

>>151062677
Hank Hill doesn't even read comic books.

>>151077143
That too. Peter's clinging to the web, you can see his whole body is pressed against it. Jess has her butt in the air for no reason.

>>151077283
Why do you keep saying "sexualized" like it is bad? They want to feel sexy- that's why they wear sexy stuff. Lose weight. and lol @ "cardio bunnies" after I explicitly name weight lifting exercises. You've never lifted in your life. You are a jealous fatty. Quit putting these these strong, confident, empowered, sexy backless leotard wearing women down because they look good and you don't.

>>151077332
>Overly sexualized art with nothing else to it isnt our cup of tea, ok?
Hell, that shit IS my cup of tea. But at least I can acknowledge that superheroines are usually just eye candy. Malding capegooners need to feel like they're being attacked for being horny.

>>151077293
>because they're the one that had the cover pulled and its not the first time.
That'd be editorial and because they dont want to lose sales lol

You cant keep getting pissy that other people dont share your aesthetic tastes. You think I liked modern country? Absolutely fucking not, I'm with Kris Kristofferson. Am I screaming at everyone listening to Luke Combs that they're trying to erase Johnny Cash? No. And I'm certainly not telling people that David Allan Coe was some hard hitting authentic songwriter just because they were listening to Jellyroll.

>>151077313
I have an asshole, maybe I should spread it for you sometime. Until then stop talking about my asshole! Its *my* asshole! You dont belong there!

>>151077332
It doesn't have to be your cup of tea, but you decided it should be ANYONE's cup of tea and had to have it cancelled like you assholes always do and THAT is the topic at hand.

and asshole way back AGAIN, I QUOTE
>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?

which PEOPLE SHOWED AND THEN GOALPOST SHIFTING AGAIN

Don't rewrite the conversation it is all up there despite the jannies deleting posts.
and again, your the one that couldn't handle something that's not your cup of tea, you jealous fat fuck.

>>151077379
>That'd be editorial and because they dont want to lose sales lol
HOLY SHIT WHAT A DODGE.

editorial just did that for NO REASON? They hired a guy then pulled his covers just because the moon was full?

>You cant keep getting pissy that other people dont share your aesthetic tastes.

No I get pissy when they get shit removed because they don't share my tastes instead of just ignoring shit they don't like like an adult.

>I have an asshole, maybe I should spread it for you sometime. Until then stop talking about my asshole! Its *my* asshole! You dont belong there!

oh nevermind, you're not an adult

>>151077356
>Why do you keep saying "sexualized" like it is bad?
Omg, you baby. It isnt. Im sexualized right now. Im a person though, I'm not art. Art is made with permanence and intentionality. I'm not, I'm hot one day and a slob the next. This is how people work.

>You've never lifted in your life.
I lost 150lbs primarily through weight lifting and calisthenics.

I assumed you were just naming popular culture exercises that show butts, probably things you jerked off to.

>>151077380
>but you decided it should be ANYONE's cup of tea
No, I just held a common opinion that was acted upon by a corporation.

>PEOPLE SHOWED
-Spiderman beating up bad boys, not twerking his wedgie.

>>151077419
>editorial just did that for NO REASON
>>they dont want to lose sales

>>151077380
My original point was that it looked like she literally wasn't wearing anything at all. The reason that image in particular looked so odd was because it was so detailed. Pictures of Spidey do often look like his suit is pressed against his body, but they're never detailed enough that he literally just looks like a realistic naked man arching his ass up in the air. No anon has supplied me with a picture of Peter that looked like that. Show me a picture of Spidey that looks like a nude guy in bodypaint, and I'll shut up for good.

>>151077420
>calling other people "baby" like you aren't malding
lmao

>>151061114 (OP)
>had to be stripped from her
You want to rephrase that?

>>151077460
I have a very thick head of curly red hair. Want to compare?

>>151077420
what are you even arguing? You are just having a melty for no reason

>>151077476
That the art of Spiderwoman was lame as shit because its a flat boring piece where she just lifts her asshole up, up and away for no reason in particular; while also being nowhere particular.

>>151077506
Then stop replying to me with your melty shit

>>151063166
That's his elbow
Just look a bit closer
No you're not wrong for being confused

>>151077468
might wanna reread that

>>151073090
>damn girl
>that outfit makes your butt look like you shit yourself big time and that you have a flat ass, is your artist bad or something?

>>151077680
>like you shit yourself big time
She looks like she'll never be able to shit again.

>>151076622
>out of the ordinary
Not for Spidey. He's like Nightwing, you can recognize him by his ass.

>>151075253
The current series.

>>151077537
No

>>151077641
Not really

>>151077821
No. That'd be 2 like dudes with sexy bums. Not 2 dudes who are sexualized, not even proof that dudes are routinely subjected to being drawn poorly for the sake of cooming.

>give her a baby
>refuse to give the baby a father and just make it a mystery
It feels like they just wanted her pregnant and saddled with a little narrative parasite for the rest of time and had zero plan of how to actually do that

I was thinking, is there a more bodacious superheroine than Jes?

>>151062339
> in those days they figured it would be better to divorce her from Spider-Man and make her completely unrelated so it doesn't feel like she is just tacked on shit like most spider characters these days.
Then they failed because she’s a now character tacked onto Captain Marvel as her supporting character.

>>151078123
Power Girl?

>>151078202
She is mostly just tits (and sometimes muscle) Jes seems to have it all, womb, thighs, butt and tits

>>151078227
Depends on the artist, I guess, but I generally can't argue with that. Plus, the domino mask kinda turns me on too.

>>151078005
Writer’s wife was pregnant and he took that for inspiration
Didn’t know what to do with the kid so they gave him the standard Marvel shit writing

This thread, lol.
pic unrelated

>>151078177
Carol's first time out lasted 23 issues, so it seemed to have worked in the short term even if now it is the other way around.

>>151062042
I always thought her original series actually started out pretty interesting. She was an experiment by the High Evolutionary to save her life from radiation poisoning, got these weird powers, was exploited by Hydra and suddenly had to integrate with the normal world that she had no experience with. Also she used to radiate disruptive pheromones which caused most folks to take an immediate disdain for her which made her even more of a social alien.

All that got dropped of course and now she's pretty interchangeable with any other modern femme except that she has (?) a kid.

>>151078513
Like a third of Marvel's heroes are already distanced from human society and struggle to exist.

>>151078513
>Also she used to radiate disruptive pheromones which caused most folks to take an immediate disdain for her which made her even more of a social alien.
interesting

>>151061114 (OP)
>>151061183
Based, vidya is healing.

>>151078513
I was pleasantly surprised when I read her original series. So naturally I was disgusted by how they ignored everything that made her stand out

>>151061114 (OP)
>Spider-Man has been in ass up face down position since his origin+50 years
>Artist is commissioned to draw women like that.
>People shit themselves.
Women's rights were a mistake

>>151080123
Post pics of Ditko-era Spider-Man arching his back with his ass cheeks spread.

>>151061183
Looks cute.

Why aren't you weirdos posting sexy panels? It's all she's good for.

>>151077450
the fucking cope.
why would they think they would lose sails unless there was a whole gang of fat jealous bitches complaining about something they could've just ignored.

>>151077451
and this bothered you because....
see >>151082813

>>151061114 (OP)
It was more about mentally ill women having a problem with an ass crack.
Something those heffers will never see due to their own size

>>151082867
>It was because of the ass in the air pose which was too salacious
> shows Spidey pics with his ass in the air the same way
>yeah well, um this one intended to be sexy
>even if it was, why is that a bad thing?
>because I don't like it so nobody should.

>>151082983
>shows Spidey pics with his ass in the air the same way
He never looks like a naked whore when people draw him.
>because I don't like it so nobody should
Made up argument.

>outright calling her a whore
mask slipped

>>151083170
>outright calling her a whore
I think having your beaver spread out on a rooftop in Manhattan is a bit whorish, yeah.

>>151083119
>shows Spidey pics with his ass in the air the same way
>He never looks like a naked whore when people draw him.
really? you go stand around people like spidey with his ass like that and see what they think of you
>yeah well, um this one intended to be sexy
>even if it was, why is that a bad thing?

>>because I don't like it so nobody should
>Made up argument.

see >>151065216 shithead

>>151083327
gottem with da pinup gyatt cheeks spread
time to see the goalpost move

>>151083245
>really? you go stand around people like spidey with his ass like that and see what they think of you
Yeah, just move the goalpost harder. Nobody will notice.
>artist selling artworks at auctions for tens of thousands of dollars had two of his hecking artworks pulled by Marvul cuz of woke!!1!
I think he'll be alright. And to quell your concern, I did not actually personally make the decision to pull those artworks of Milo's, nor would I have wanted them pulled.
>>151083327
>not arched
>looks like Spidey is wearing fabric
>can't even see the back dimples
Not seeing it. Try harder or dilate.

>>151083327
woah das sexisss :O

You people are fucking retarded.
Here. An actual cover that's arguably just as sexual as the Jessica Drew one. Spider-Man: The Manga #4. Clearly a live model, needlessly skintight, and actual full-on bulge. I proved the feminists wrong myself because you were incapable of it. Took me five minutes on Google.

>>151083362
accusing other people of goalpost moving

and were back to >>151082983

>>151083537
they'll say that still doesn't count.
earlier posts literally said it has to be the exact same pic by the same artists before they'll shut the fuck up

>>151083537
Japanese suit actors have bulges all the time. Even female characters get dick bulges.

The real issue with Jess is that she's a shitty, aimless character that was rightfully retired decades ago before being brought back by the biggest Marvel hack of all time

>>151083564
>they'll say
Nigger, I'M THE ONE SAYING THE JESS PICTURE IS SEXUAL!
You kept giving me bullshit that looked nothing like the Milo drawing, so I found something that actually proved the feminists wrong for throwing a bitchfit. Now shut the fuck up.

>>151061114 (OP)
Woman have the CHOICE to look sexy. Some women like to look sexy.

Shaming women for wearing sexy clothes is not feminism. Telling women what they can and cannot wear IS NOT freedom. A woman's choice to wear something sexy IS FREEDOM!

>>151083720
>Shaming women for wearing sexy clothes is not feminism
>Telling women what they can and cannot wear IS NOT freedom
Making up arguments and fake concern trolling in vain attempt to disguise the fact that you like jerking off to /co/ girls. Have some fucking conviction.

>>151083758
>Have some fucking conviction.
You should be saying that into a mirror.

>>151083850
>"guys, I'm feminist, and I think women should be allowed to strip nude for my entertainment"
>posts art from a guy whose biggest joke is saying "Fuck you, feminists! I like drawing ass and titties!"
Yeah, I'm not stupid.
You're all cowards who are too insecure to just accept that you like porn drawings. You also lack any actual opinions, so you just regress back to the basic act of being contrary to the "dumb feminazi opinion". But the "dumb feminazi opinion" is that an artist decided to draw a female character's ass in the hottest, most impractical way he could think of, and that made some irrational people (not me) kind of mad.
Your opinions on the art are fine. You simply deserve to die for being snakes who can't man up and say what they mean. I don't respect you.

This is dumb. I'm just gonna post butts.

>>151070377
i'm doing my part :)
>>151065312
man this artist did not do Carol justice

>>151085503
Post the big yellow butt

>>151085503
>>151085517
She's not even on these pages.

>>151085732
If she didn't already switch to Skein, would she be called Spongy Moth?

>>151085393
based

>>151062589
Hot

>>151086878
Yeah

>>151086957
Blech, she looks like a starfish.

...actually, that's kinda hot.

>>151062230
>not leaning into the origins by making her a copycat attention whore with totally different powers but took the name and image specifically to ride Spider-man's coattails

>>151065948
imagine the exhaust that slithers out of that thing

>>151082983
at it's core the argument he's making is that he inherently sees women as sex objects rather than people. Them simply existing is sexual in his eyes, which is why he demands all women be intentionally and deliberately de-sexed as possible; to remove the inherent sexuality he projects onto their existence.

>>151061114 (OP)
The Marvel execs pulled the stick out they asses and remembered that Sex Sells.

>>151083720
This anon gets it!

>>151087381
>>151088209
>more cowardice and lies
I accept your concession.

>>151077201
Wouldn't the ass have been mostly covered by the title?

This thread inspired me to check boorus and rule 34. As it turns out, Jessica has almost no good art.

>>151088626
as said previous, she's a pretty niche character with not much going for her these days besides being the first Spider-Woman in what is now a massive multiverse of them

>>151088626
You know what's weird, same. I'm honestly shocked because the best spank material for Jess is in official Marvel comics.

>>151088649
Those are great

>>151061114 (OP)
The funniest part of that is feminists swore up and down no fabric would do that IRL, but I've seen whores wearing shit around in public that does exactly that since.

i still find it wild she had a kid and it lasted like one storyline before they fucking dropped the thing entirely

>>151088826
Why is it surprising she wanted to have a kid in the peak of her life?
She isn’t getting any younger. Carol, for instance, is already over the hill.

>>151062596
This was the first time SJW karens, wokes and trannies revealed their powerlevels, all to cancel something very stupid. The best was the terribly anatomically incorrect redraws they did over the Manara art.

>>151088961
Not true. I’m a SJW and I love Jessica’s OG costume.

>>151088934
i thought it was cool too
i read up to when he got kidnapped by some hydra thing and he got aged to adulthood
i think i stopped on that page actually cause it was so fucking stupid.

>>151088826
I don't. Babies are the end of a person's social life, it's the same in comics but worse. Once the novelty of writng a character as a new parent wears off, the big question becomes how do you get them back to zero without it coming off as being neglectful piece of shit.

>>151089166
To mirror Viper pretending to be Jessica’s mother they should have it wear Viper is training Gerry right now. I mean he’s already working for Hydra.

>>151089166
the delicate work life/home life balance all parents have gone through for millennia

having a kid in the Marvel U seems traumatizing
you go through a mile of miscarriages to finally get one and its future is being mutilated for show and killed off for cheap shock factor
aged up for turned against you for shock factor a month after giving birth to them

>>151089322
But now her son could be shota by Carol or better yet for Viper.

>>151088649
Amazing ass.

>>151069317
>Shes not even the hottest
entire post discarded

>>151083720
based Cho

>>151061114 (OP)
>This costume was once considered so sexual that it had to be stripped from the character in a triumphant display of feminism.

Yet, they made a children's cartoon of her in the 1980's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU5W8-lgwxM

>>151061114 (OP)
Never happened

was reading some Thunderbolts until I reached this page and made me think of this thread lol

>>151077201
>>151062596
are there still people who think we draw men and women exactly the same?
i remember when this was the go to argument for women who kept complaining abouy how female characters were constantly sexualized
but now with the increasing popularization of femboys and nsfw art, we can clearly see what actual sexualization of men look like

>>151061114 (OP)
>Now it has a skin in fortnite, a game for preteens
Same game where Cammy has to wear her emergency pants?

>>151094633
Femboys are popular with men

>>151095004
So this is probably the best thing of Jessica anyone has ever drawn.

>>151095004
I like how Emma is visibly getting turned on by the fight

>>151083609
so if you knew there were comparable Spidey pics what the fuck were you sperging out for a whole thread you dumb faggot.

and it still doesn't match 100% which is what you were bitching about before. why is that one a fit and not the others

>>151083606
Who cares?
She’s coom worthy and that’s what matters. Being a MILF added to her allure.

>>151095445
I didn't know! Took me five minutes of research to find out there were though.
>and it still doesn't match 100%
It conveys a similar level of unnecessary focus on the human body. Peter looks naked. Anons finding flat, stylized 2D drawings of similar poses to the Jessica drawing only highlighted how the Jess one was so much more overtly sexual.

>>151061114 (OP)
Hnnnnnghh

>>151096485
all this goal moving
so is >>151085485 equal or not? The poster seems to think it's fanservice, there's a focus on the body, but earlier >>151062596 DIDN'T count because the context of spidey was an action scene just like 151085485

and >>151083537 doesn't have spidey's ass at all while you were measure the millimeters of wedge between the two earlier pics. the it HAD to be a perfect match.

You're so full of shit. Bottom line, you fuckers couldn't handle a pic like >>151062092 even existing and acted like the jealous killjoys you are

>>151098326
>muh goalposts
Not my fault you can't read.
>so is >>151085485 equal or not?
The artist is clearly trying to squeeze her ass and tits into the shot any way they can, but no, it's not the same. Like >>151062596, there's some actual purpose to the panel; a dynamic shot of Jessica climbing a wall.
It's more overtly sexual than the Peter one. The page has one single panel without perky tits or exposed ass. But it's nowhere near as horny as the Manara painting. It's also not an actual cover. It's not the thing that attracts your eye and drives you to pick up the book.
>and >>151083537 doesn't have spidey's ass
>it HAD to be a perfect match
No, it HAD to convey the same sexy skin-tight sexuality. Peter looks like a naked man, Jessica looks like a naked women. Neither piece of art requires this level of realism. It's just sex appeal.
>Bottom line, you fuckers
"You fuckers" nothing. I told you I didn't give a shit about the sexy cover a dozen times, but you can't shake the preconceived notion in your mind that I'm some ghoulish feminazi trying to take your porn stash away from you, because your mind has no space for nuance. I'm not a killjoy. I'm giving my simple opinion on an art piece; an opinion based on an OBJECTIVE bias towards female sexuality in the comics industry. You're just firmly stuck in the Gamergate era. That's not my fault.

>>151085393
Is that a bonus Ronnie in that pic?

>>151098881
Yes! That's who she bought her black suit here from >>151098852

>>151098837
>HAD to convey the same sexy skin-tight sexuality.

remind me again why? because you've gone way past the original argument that men aren't posed in sexy cheesecake shots which I assumed was the original point of all this with the original statement

>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?

you pic doesn't show his ass at all even though you're babbling shit like>>151083537

and that's because despite people showing up what you asked for and claimed that male characters are drawn the same way you've bobbed and weaved so much, I honestly have no clue what you're arguing anymore. You just don't want to admit you're wrong.

>>151098837
>but you can't shake the preconceived notion in your mind that I'm some ghoulish feminazi trying to take your porn stash away from you,

because you just keep going. The cover was ALREADY taken away. and you keep arguing....something....I don't know.
you're the one who keeps jumping to conclusions (gamergate? really?)
Like I said the cover WAS pulled because you fuckers couldn't handle a pic like >>151062092 even existing and acted like the jealous killjoys you are and you keep arguing back while denying you're not arguing.

you could just stop posting if it was just one random statement you wanted to make long ago, but you won't do that. you'll just keep arguing...some point....forever

>>151099184
>you've gone way past the original argument that men aren't posed in sexy cheesecake shots
That IS my argument. The "counter-evidence" posted simply wasn't cheesecake. Just being able to see a character's ass doesn't make something cheesecake. Making a whole cover just to show off the bare ass of a model dressed as a character should though.
>despite claiming that male characters aren't drawn the same way
They often aren't, and drawings like >>151062596 only prove that point.
>>151099226
>le hecking art was CENSORED because you couldn't HANDLE IT
I doubt Milo will lose any sleep about it.
>You did this! You did this, you killjoy!
How fucking retarded are you? I keep telling you, I don't give a shit about the cover. I just want faggots like you to stop being babies and admit that it's sexual. People were being delusional in demanding it gets removed. They weren't being delusional in noticing that comic artists love dumb cheesecake.
>you could just stop posting
I like to laugh at you.

>>151099387
WHAT is your argument? I can't tell.

You asked for
>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?

People showed you.

Then you said it was about context. You yourself found art that is equally sexual (and not AT ALL what you asked for originally "Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin", but we'll let that slide) and you said you found in in 5 seconds on Google.

The Cover WAS pulled because people couldn't couldn't handle a cheescake cover. You keep saying you're not one of them but you keep arguing something. I don't know. if you're not one of them I don't get why your still responding. everything you were saying didn't exist was posted the argument is over.

All you're doing is convincing me you ARE on of them with all your continued responses. you could literally prove how much you "don't give a shit" by stop posting

>>151099541
>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin
>several posts of Spidey's costume clinging to him like a costume
>find an image of Spidey's costume clinging to him like a second skin
It's that simple.
>you said it was about context
Yes. Wanting to make a cheesecake cover drives someone to hire a model to pose nude with her ass in the air. Wanting to make a cool action shot drives someone to draw Spider-Man posing on top of a group of webbed up gangsters. The ass is an afterthought. It's not cheesecake.
>uhhh, you MUST be exactly what I hate because you're responding to meeeee! Stop respondiiiiiing!
You're like an infant.

>>151061114 (OP)
i am magneto

>>151099636
really? costumes wedge in the asscheeks like that? Wasn't that your complaint.
>it's gotta be my super exacting standards for it to count, millimeter per millimeter of wedge.

oh and were back to the cool action shots Even though when I pointed you to >>151085485 you gave me some crap about DEGREES of context because you're just never gonna admit, again:

there are pics of spidey drawn with his ass in the air exactly like the Jessica, context different or not

the ARE also sexualized pics of male heroes.

People did get shit they don't like removed

those were all your bitch n' moan points. again argument over.

for someone who doesn't give a shit, you sure keep posting.

>>151099904
>Wasn't that your complaint
I've been complaining about the fabric. Or lack thereof. Because the cover makes Jessica look Stark naked. Because the model who posed for the drawing clearly was.
>you gave me some crap about DEGREES of context
Yeah. A picture of Spider-Man on a web ball is not meant to be sexual. A panel of Jessica climbing a wall with her ass and tits visible is meant to titillate, but the story doesn't stop to ogle her. The momentum continues. A cover of Jessica with her ass arched in the air is only meant to be sexually stimulating. Again, nuance.
>there are pics of spidey drawn with his ass in the air exactly like Jessica, context different or not
Yeah. But the context makes people react to it differently. That's how art works.
>the ARE also sexualized pics of male heroes
To a much lesser extent, yeah. Look at >>151085485 and tell me where the guy asses are.
>people did get shit they don't like removed
And I don't defend their motives. Never have. Get over it.
>you sure keep posting
If you stop responding, I won't have any reason to. Be the change you want to see in the world, or stop bitching.

I bet her pussy is tight AS FUCK just imagine how tight she is from all the acrobatics.

>>151100529
I always worry that superheroine pussy would be TOO tight. Like, the strength of the vaginal muscles when you put your cock in might literally just crush it. She cums and starts tensing, and your cock just gets locked in by the force and ripped off as she's gyrating and losing herself. Scary shit.

>>151061114 (OP)
Your answer, le conservitive pendelum switched
Real answer, no one remembered it was ever a problem and there's far bigger problems in America to be focusing on atm than caring about how some shitty skin looks in a meme game.

>>151100620
that might be an issue with like She-Hulk but ideally if shes aroused it will loosen to perfection

>>151100722
I dunno, man. If that pussy can handle the Juggernaut, how soft can it be?

>>151100843
lmfaooo

>>151100843

Juggs has the micro-peen of Cyttorak. That's why he compensates with that big dumb helmet.

>>151064648
ah yes that comic
>just what I like to see in my Spider-Man stories. Naked decomposing mutilated bodies of children.

>>151101039
>picrel
Was it the tongue? The fingers?

>>151101199
anon is just seething

>>151061114 (OP)
The god emperor was elected to ascend back onto his presidential throne once again.

>>151061114 (OP)
>This costume was once considered so sexual that it had to be stripped from the character
Meanwhile, in France...

>>151061114 (OP)
>Look up the costume in question
>Black recolor
Almost 400 posts for this?

>>151103737
Alya is the hottest girl in the show.
*looks up age*
Uh oh……

>>151061114 (OP)
I want more of this costume for comics.

>>151061114 (OP)
This was honestly the best outfit, and no way you could criticize it.

>>151065605
>Mayday losers seethe at Spider-Gwen’s allure with the normies
Because Mayday doesn't get pushed in outside media. If she did, there's a good chance she'd be popular. As long as they don't make her a cunt of course.

>>151100094
you're the one who keeps saying you don't give a shit. As long as you keep arguing like them I'm gonna assume you're one of them.

This will always live rent-free in my head regarding Spider-Woman. Wonder if having Black Cat one of her people would have changed directory of both greatly. Hell, some of the things Black Cat mentions regarding Spider-Man could have easily applied to Jessica.

>>151107580
Utter infant. You don't even know what you're arguing anymore.

>>151108154
and he's still going.
but he don't give a shit folks.

>>151108154
>no, I HAVE to get the last word in even though I'm not saying anything anymore
Pathetic.

Whoops, replied to myself. Ah well. No more (You)s for you.

>>151108011
Didn’t know about Jess’ fat cock

>>151108225
and he's still going.
but he don't give a shit folks.

anyway again...

You asked for
>Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin, now did it?

People showed you.

Then you said it was about context.

You yourself found art that is equally sexual (and not AT ALL what you asked for originally "Spidey's costume never clung to the inside of his asscheeks like a second skin", but we'll let that slide) and you said you found in in 5 seconds on Google.

The Cover WAS pulled because people couldn't couldn't handle a cheescake cover. You keep saying you're not one of them but you keep arguing something. I don't know. if you're not one of them I don't get why your still responding.

Everything you were saying didn't exist was posted. the argument is over.

and yes, you gotta get the last word in.

but he don't give a shit folks.

>>151108240
... that wasn't what I was thinking of. Although Foreigner claims that Black Cat said he had a bigger dick than Spider-Man as well.

>I'll bring up things that already got addressed. That'll show him!
Learn to read.

And post cute Jessica Drew scenes.

And learn to read.

>>151108416
Yeah but she was playing them against each other so it makes sense she’d say that considering Pete’ temper

>>151108423
What is this from?

>>151108532
It's from Avengers Assemble (2012) #9. Same issue as that one scene of Jessica using her pheromones to pussywhip Hulk.

too much reddit spacing, too few spider ASS and curves

Is her (short) series good?
>Inb4 bendis

>>151103856
Asuka and Rei are the same age, still not a problem - outside the US, that is. Example provided.
I think we can safely say that this is a US specific problem,

>>151061114 (OP)
Why don't we ever see this again?

>>151061114 (OP)
so shiny

>>151062323
Carol is a coal burner

>>151085485
All women should looks like this.

>>151061114 (OP)
No preteens play fortnite anymore it's all millenial and gen x nostalgia bait losers, that's the entire store.

>>151111736
I find that term offensive and frankly, I don't like your attitude

>>151061114 (OP)
>Tfw I will never fuck a beautiful woman with long black Tifa hair
It hurts

>>151109257
That ass looks nice n tight

>>151061114 (OP)
This spiderwoman do not even have spider power

>>151061114 (OP)
Spiderwoman do not even have spider power

>>151061114 (OP)
It's very irresponsible to engage in superheroics while pregnant I don't know what Hopeless was thinking

>>151113579
Yeah. What kind of dork spider can't even trapdoor?

>>151062323
You're that Venom Marvel weirdo, aren't you?

>>151113244
Dima messed up her butt the first time but made sure to reupload a fixed version
Carolbutt is that important

>>151108011
Damn, Cockrum gave Felicia amazing tiddies.

>>151061114 (OP)
Ruined by pregnancy

>>151069712
She wanted to look good for Norman

>>151061114 (OP)
Women have terrible opinions on everything. Just ignore them.

>>151116398
>Gobbed5
Post the rest

>>151116432
Only till Gobbed5
>>151065605
Spider-Gwen only allure is luring older men like Norman to breed her!!

>>151065801
Gwen's husband NORMAN OSBORN and FATHER of her children won't tolerate her acting like a slut!

>>151062323
>>151111736
she can be both

>>151116398
Poor OG Gwen

>>151116546
Sorry, Mysterio turned Norman gay as a prank.

>>151118553
Imagine being baby Gerry and sucking those milkers everyday.

>>151118572
>getting spider powers from booba milk
H-hot

>>151115144
What

>>151062359
Feminists don't read comic books, they just watch the MCU, hence why their response was drawing Hawkeye in all of those positions.

>>151119761
Her individuality is slipping away.

I genuinely don't know if this character is a carpet muncher or not because of /co/

>>151119813
She's a Claremont character

Qualley as Jess

>>151119813
If the question means "has she been depicted in a sexual relationship officially with another woman in the comics?", the answer is no.

Is Jess Marvel's ass queen?

>>151120527
She’s one of the top 10 contenders.
For white girls, probably one of the top 3 with MJ and Scarlet Witch

>>151120667
Top 2 with Carol

>>151119813
Yeah, I always hate when people do this shit; especially with characters I don't read.
I still don't know if Fire and Ice are supposed to be scissor sisters or not.
>>151119834
Oh, well that explains everything.

>>151120527
Her, Carol, and She Hulk share the spot of top PAWG

>>151116421
Especially leftists.

>>151121042
Shulk is green

>>151120683
You’re right. My bad.
I forgot Wanda isn’t white.
So Jess is top white girl 3 with MJ and Carol.

>>151121287
The curves stay when she turns back to normal, trust.

>>151121302
>I forgot Wanda isn’t white.
She was for decades, then Marvel went full retard and caved to bullies.

>>151121913
Yeah, aside from making Bobby Drake gay, it's always been the dumbest retcon to me.
Why try to take characters like Wanda and Doom that've been lily white for decades and suddenly pretend they've always been brown, and get pissed at casting directors and actors for not conforming to the new status quo, especially when Romani people can still have light skin?

>>151122113
>especially when Romani people can still have light skin?
Not only can they, but European gypsies ARE predominantly light skinned.
They basically look like Turks or Syrians.

>>151098837
What about when you faggots were obsessed over Spidey's junk on the photosets of Amazing Spiderman 1, yeah, I remember, I am old enough to remember, the basketball spider suit?

>>151122293
>What about when you
Absolutely fucking illiterate.

>>151122113
>>151122223
Its exactly the kind of racism they think they are preventing

>>151122717
It will unfortunately keep being that way until we get some creators of Romani descent in comics.

But you know what? Despite it all, I still like Jessica Drew. I could just do without the toddler.

>>151124739
I want to fuck her ass.

>>151124739
Oh sure, Luna and Cassie are okay, but Gerry is a problem that had to be aged up and turned into a bad guy.

>>151124153
They really should have a duo book at some point.

>>151061114 (OP)
Why don't we ever had this costume before?

>>151124153
>>151125765
it's actually very surprising they haven't one yet

>>151065605
>>151065801
Shut up faggot. You can't even give any examples of what this character does better than Mayday. Just admit Gwen makes your dick hard and shut the fuck up. You're too dumb to even talk about comics.

>>151127461
>>151125765
Would "Captain Marvel and Spider-woman" not preserve the Captain Marvel copyright?

>>151128639
Gwen fans can't read, you trying to incite an argument is moot

>>151061114 (OP)
Peak design

>>151061138
Yeah, prove this! I don't play that game or any games what so ever.

>>151120527
yes

>>151131533
It was released years ago
I have it but I've since uninstalled Fortnite

>>151128639
>You can't even give any examples of what this character does better than Mayday.

Be more relevant than her and Jessica combined.

>>151120527
>>151120683
spankable

>>151063498
People that believe this NEED to be mental institutions.

Sex with Jess.

>>151136410
creampie in jess' tight pussy!!!

I bet her costume is thin enough that I could stretch it and use it as a dental dam.

>>151077420
Be quiet woman

>>151126619
We do

>>151062658
More of the same "spit in the core audiences face and pander to loud internet retards and mentally ill journalist that don't actually care about your product" that was synonymous with the early to late 2010s

>>151137654
>Things that didn't happen

>>151138057
The "It didn't happen and if it did, it wasn't that bad, ect" shtick is played out, we're not stupid, get new material.

>>151138091
Not as tired as pretending things happened to get mad at shtick

>>151138057
>revisionism

>>151134014
>Relevance ≠ Better Character
Get a brain.

>>151136821
n-no

>>151065948
>>151087352
Kill yourselves.

>>151061114 (OP)
Don't care about marvelshit

>>151136821
Kek

>>151140826
ok

>>151085485
What is the context here? I see this scene all the time. Why is she running from Carol who just helped her?

>>151085485
David Finch.

>>151143512(me)
Meant to have a "?".
>>151143262
I think its just after Secret Invasion and Spider-woman took the worst of it.

I understand why marvel made her a mother by why have it be a sperm
Donor and no father for the baby?

>>151143939
autists can self insert as the father

>>151063779
>Why did Milo draw her as an frog faced alien?
He draws every single female in the world as the same vaguely Asian prostitute he's obsessed with.

>>151061114 (OP)
dayum she kinda bad