Classic World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
>2) What's the main supply of slaves?
>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?

Questions for Masters/Mistresses:
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?
>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?
>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?
>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?

Questions for slaves:
>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?
>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?
>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.
>4) What training will you be put through?

Questions for Switches:
>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?
>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?

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Ropes or chains?

Very good. Thread slave will get a scrap of Master's dinner when she cooks it later today, she's earned it.

>ropes or chains?
Chains. I'm not as into bondage as most others, but slaves still need it, and chains are best.

Even something as simple as hearing them clink around on her collar and manacles as she works can help with improving a slaves service, mushes down the last parts of her mind that cling to humanity. And that's before getting into how it's still fun to have a slave on a leash every now and then. For walkies, or just day to day service.

>>11328193
>hope she's okay
I think she is. This might be the hardest day of her life, but having the hard life of a slave is much easier since being a human is just so hard on people who never were meant to be people.

I was happy just now to see the nag screen that Fetlife gives you to get verified when it detects people are looking at your profile enough. It only goes off every 2 weeks, but it was a bit late this time. 8 PM is a good time for any special Master worship, 20 on the 24 hour clock, but also 11 PM is a good substitute if you were crying so much you couldn't make it the first time. That is enough blogposting however.

149 I expect you to be properly branded when posting here. Don't let me down.

>>11328199 (OP)
I asked this question last thread and got a lot of great answers, so figure I'll copy-paste it in case anybody wants to elaborate or didn't see it

What are your overall thoughts on permanent bondage? As in no escape, no second chances, and no mercy. The slave is completely encased in restraints and will be staying that way for good.
>why would a slave of yours end up with this fate?
>how common would it be in your setting?
>what kind of bondage would they be kept in?
>does anything of note happen after you finish locking them up and leave the room?

>>11328241
In the perspective of a slave, the idea of permanent bondage or anything permanent without the ability of turning back is such an intoxicating idea to think of :3

Especially if it was to just become a piece of furniture, some type of piping, a trash disposal system or a sex relief station, just nowhere near a living thing. Even better with chastity. Even BETTER with some type of electric shock system and/or vibrators that are just way too low to do anything but keep them on edge.

The idea of getting so sick of a bratty slave that you just fully encase them and ship them away to be used for a bit of revenue is truly a great option for a master!

Of course being encased but still serving your master or having the chance (and obligation) to still move and perform duties is nice.

>>11328241
>What are your overall thoughts on permanent bondage?
I know a lot of subbies are into the thought of it. This for example got a ton of interest with CYOA players. A lot of people "volunteered" wanting to be boxed. So within the slave community I expect much the same.

For me personally though I am on the fence. I like the concept but the execution is just too final and you can't do anything else. It goes in the same category as guro. Can be hot but it is just a one and done.

>>11328240
I'm right here already of course :^)

>>11328285
Is there a fucking reason you capitalized the word "slave"? Do you think you deserve it or something? I was very clear that your name is "slave 149".

Whatever your bedtime usually is, you will stay up a additional 1 hour tonight. Do as you're told.

Also yeah my thoughts on permanent encasement like that is still "There is not a crime a slave can do that is so great she actually deserves to be disposed of". Like yeah, maybe killing her sisters, successfully, but even for attempts on Master's life she still isn't getting out of a life on her feet in service of human beings that easily.

At the absolute maximum, I would encase a slave in one of these and tell her its for life. After a year, she's suddenly brought back up, and told "It is a far greater demonstration of my rule over you that I never give up on disciplining a life of eternal servitude out of you. Get back to work."

I'm not surprised that slaves are horny for this sort of thing though. They're just like that.

>>11328323
You're right, honestly i thought about it but then I just wondered if it was just because it was in the middle of a sentence. Bleh. Unworthy brain. Better mess it up with some sleep deprivation.

But yeah, honestly i find it more fun to be something done just for fun, just to have an encased toy breaking down, and not as a punishment.

>>11328356
It is a good reminder to always be exact and specific in instructions to slaves. There isn't a standard too low, they will find a way to break it. Any thinking of any kind is too much.

By the way, and this is important, don't do more than a single hour of sleep deprivation. I know the idea of crying because a internet stranger was mean to you is completely pathetic, but slaves are pathetic, you will not deprive yourself even more as recompense for how unworthy you are. There are good reasons why you should never be allowed to think. One hour, no more, no less.

>>11328241
I wouldn't want to be actually in it, but I like the fear of it. Knowing that it's a possibility, ideally one that is legal to subject me to, is really really hot.
My master may have a permanently sealed slave himself, but even if he doesn't I know it's a possibility - masters are allowed to seal away their own slaves as they wish (though it's rarely done without reason), and slaves who commit forbidden acts such as organizing revolts or trying to escape may end up being publicly entombed to remind the rest of us the fate of those who try to reject our lot. My master would certainly remind me from time to time that property such as myself has no "right to life". If I ceased to be useful, he may be forced to seal me away.
As a slave, when I misbehave and am punished, my master has no obligation to inform me of my sentence. When I'm entombed as punishment, I have to bear in mind the possibility that I will never be allowed out again.
I also like the implication that non-permanent long term bondage is possible. Perhaps this imprisonment could last a matter of years in cases that don't merit permanent restraint.
Most of all though, I simply like the fear. The knowledge that I am powerless, that I must remain enthusiastic and eager. Every single day, I must devote every inch of my being to servitude with the same enthusiasm as though I were being chased by a hungry tiger, because in a sense, I am. I have no protection, no dignity. I am not entitled to fairness. Even the slightest misstep could mean losing it all forever.
The only choice I have is to run myself ragged. If my master were to command me to run a hundred marathons back to back, I would do it without question, and I must obey his every command the same way.

Thoughts about nude slave auctions?

>>11328411
This is exactly how I want slaves to be afraid of who they serve. Fear of god, not the kind of fear you'd have of a abusive drunken partner, who'd be random and cruel in taking things out on you, instead the fear that comes from being so much smaller than even a mere mortal in the presence of a god. The gulf between you is so vast, he can do anything he wants with you, and he does.

I am often soft on slaves, but that is my personal choice, you have no right to any kind of mercy or even consistent treatment. Given the order of running 100 marathons, I would maybe punish you less for collapsing of exhaustion after 95 instead of after 80. But that is simply part of what it is like to be completely powerless in the face of Master, he simply chose to treat you this way, you never once had a right to do anything other than obey his orders.

I like to think of myself as a benevolent ruler over my slaves. They serve because it is what is best for them, and I decide what is best for them, but even that specific justification being spoken to them is a choice Ive made. They simply are nothing more than just things that will be used how their owner decides, gaining any meaning to their lives from that owner.

>>11328422
The most dehumanizing way to take away the dignity of girls like that. Its great.

I love images like this since they often have each girl having a different vibe, lets you pick out what you like. The girl on the far left I think I like the most. She'll need to have her hair grown out to be more like the girl to the right of her, but she's just trying to hold it together. She's not freaking out, not yet, but her eyes are wide with fear, her entire body is trembling, and she just knows she will remember what she feels at this exact moment for the rest of her life.

Take her home, tell her its okay, she will be happy with a life of servitude, and if she isn't then she will be trained until she is. Your life as a person is over.

>>11328241

The thought of having a permanently immobilized slave is delicious - the logical end-point of a slave; a woman reduced to nothing more than a sex object; a convenient fucktoy. A victim who's only significant sensory input is through her holes when I violate her.

>>11328203

Chains, always. Nothing beats the aesthetics of a small, delicate girl with heavy, crude iron shackles on her slender wrists and ankles.

>>11328450

The other aspect is the implications of the permanence. Chains indicate something that slave is going to be wearing for a long, long time.

>>11328448
I still think it is a bit unnecessarily cruel, but then I think, slaves don't. Might be useful if girls like that were on display somewhere, to help instill discipline.

Accompanying Master to such a display will assist a slave in understanding how good she really has it, and should be grateful when receiving her regular punishments, discipline could be far worse. Master is kind to you, don't abuse that kindness.

>>11328450
Yes exactly. I really like that picture actually. Ive seen a few by that artist.

>>11328452
Ideally, when a slave is shaped to exactly the slender form I desire for her, a more fitted set of metal collar and manacles will be attached. Only coming off for showers, since I am positive they would rust after a while, and those will be with her for the rest of her life.

It is impossible to forget what you are, with the cold grip of slavery over your life being actually literal. Even when given rags so you don't freeze, the metal is still there for dehumanization to be a very literal feeling.

>>11328448
Honestly that sounds so nice >.< Would be better if completely covered though, nothing human showing besides its holes and boobs, just to show it really just isn't a person worth displaying anymore, but instead just something to use :3

yeah.. need.

>>11328753
It'd be nice to find a display of those things that are visibly making noise. Moaning maybe, but ideally sobbing, make sure its as visceral as possible for the slave I bring with me.

Grab her by the hair and force her to be face to face with just how absolute my power over her is. Maybe this thing is bundled up on the floor, and my slave is forced down to her knees, my right hand with a firm grip on her hair, forcing her to almost kiss this things mouth hole, my left hand twisting one of her arms behind her, assisting in holding her thin nude form down while my much stronger form looms over her, scolding her about how if she isn't grateful for all ive done for her, then this will be what I do for her.

Cap it all off with using this things mouth hole while my slave licks my boots and it'll be a good lesson. Maybe she even has to curtsy and say "thank you for the lesson, sis" to that thing before we leave.

Did you do your sleep deprivation order, 149? One hour, no more no less?

>>11328889
I did do it! Stayed awake till about 1:30am when I usually sleep at 12:30am :)
And wow, that honestly sounds like a dream. Being anyone in the scenario, but of course a cunt like me would rather be the pleasure station that doesnt move and gets cleaned like how an actual fleshlight is.

>>11328891
You can in fact follow orders. Good boy.

I'm not surprised that slaves are so horny for every part of that. Honestly the living fleshlight feels like a small mercy to them. That little servant of mine might be terrified almost having to kiss that thing, sure, but when she gets home she does not have a single hour of rest. Constantly on her feet, making the life of her Master better, even when there's no domestic chores to do she still has to kneel before me, being attentive to my emotions, making sure even her nude body and servile demeanour is making me happy. She probably is too dumb to fully understand just how fucked up she is that she might be happier living as a public use station, but its exactly that kind of thing that makes it right that she serves, and never had any aspirations of being human.

>>11328203
Chains are generally better outside of specific punishments like hogties, gallows, or shibari
But it's one of those things like the spanking panties where all works
>Should the slave be kept naked
>Should the Master remove the panties as He bends His slave over His knee
>Should the slave pull them down and waddle over with them round her ankles

>>11328422
not humiliating enough, lately i've been dreaming about how the premium batch of slaves would be brought on stage in a gown, that me and another lesser slave (probably another yellow) would rip off and expose to a jeering crowd
Having us next to them would make the look bustier, prettier etc. for female merchandise, and would make the males look bigger stronger etc.
Maybe me and the other lesser slave would be tacked on to the last item in the lot, or done as a lowest unique auction, or just kept for the next auction as we're considered not worth selling

>>11328422
Expose a nude redhead or blonde to the sun for any long length of time, she's going to wind up incandescent and in too much pain to be trained until she heals. Best to hold nude auctions inside or in the shade.

>>11328203
Neither. Mine are to be trained enough to never need them.

>>11329486
Nah man I think you're being taken in a bit by one of your slaves. Look my primary slave is a blonde, she has a skintone I can best describe in how I tease her about how if I ordered her to stand outside my front door her nude body alone could be a lighthouse for passing ships. That paleness is also assisted by being a personal service slave, never leaving my side, meaning she goes outside about as much as I do, but they're either lying or deluded if they say the sun is literally killing them.

I make sure my slave helps out during the harvest season, her first time being told that she will be toiling in the fields from sun up to sun down that day was especially hard, remember slaves don't deserve to know plans in advance, but she was just having all the pain of having a relatively easy life of domestic service replaced by several days of back breaking hard labour. Their bodies are usually quite thin and soft too, its even harder on them. I'm sure a slave of yours could have told you the sun is literally killing her, but she's just dumb. She'll be fine.

Having full sunlight on the merchandise helps you see them better anyways. Maybe some shaded area for the auctioneer if its a bit of a hot day, but I don't care about the comfort of what's on sale.

>>11329329
>(probably another yellow)
No.

Is being a flattie not enough for you? Go and do a additional hour of corner time for that. Low grade dipshit.

>>11329562
God haha, being literal cattle for a farm sounds fun >.< no wasting money on fuel for toiling machines and you get some entertainment too! Just make it sleep in a coop or stable stall whenever its not worthy enough of the floor next to the master's bed :3

>>11329566
Hey! Don't get so excited that you start touching yourself, 149. Giving pleasure to yourself without permission will result in you being sent to absolute hell. I am positive I can find a level of misery that you won't actually think is heaven.

But yes, the farm tools are cute. Way less dainty and fragile than what I sent to toil alongside them, but still cute. They tend to sleep in a "slave pen", construction of that varies but I inspected the one my slave might have slept in while she was out in the fields. A section of the main barn is barred off, just have a standard cell door separating it. There's some sleeping alcoves in the walls but I think that's just so the owners can say it can handle the overflow from people like me. Supposed to just sleep on the floor, it seems, even if they might have to pile ontop of eachother a bit. That little cutout in the wall would be tough for mine to fit into, and she's some fragile soft personal slave, not the beasts of burden who would be living there normally.

Hard labour for sure makes them happier with throwing every single inch of their life into their domestic service though. Funny how that works. Suddenly living in the same world as humans where you get to shiver from feeling the air conditioning wash over your nude body isn't too bad.

>>11329566
I hate art like this. If you are going to use a woman like that she needs to be secured in a way that would at least be somewhat plausible. The rope should be around her waist to allow a woman's greater lower body strength at least be put into some use. All this would do would dislocate her shoulder if she tried really hard to pull. And she would only do that if she were being threatened with greater pain than the pain of dislocating her shoulder would provide.

And even if you had ideal soil to till you would probably want more then one slave. Four all pulling would probably be best. Or partner her with another beast of burden. Like a cow.

>>11329766
I don't know too much about the specific agricultural use of formerly human animals so I'll defer to your thinking. One slave probably is not anywhere near enough, its true.

>she were being threatened with greater pain than the pain of dislocating her shoulder

Presumably in a lot of those images without their overseer being visible I imagine at least something like a guard tower or similar elevated position for people to watch over. Honestly hard labour like this is best for the fantasy of being able to do something like sit on some outdoor patio sipping some nice drinks while being attended to by luckier slaves, looking out at one of yours that is currently out in the fields, living a life of pain and heat, knowing that Master's eyes are on her so she better not look away from her toil even for a second.

This doesn't make that much sense economically and honestly is a rough life to order on a slave. There's a reason why most of the time I really like the context of it being very temporary for a devoted domestic slave. Also dislocating her shoulder sounds counterproductive. You're just going to work her to death that way and then have to go buy a new one. Maybe one of the girls could have told me that instead of slave agricultural anon but I'm not going to listen to what tools think.

How do you discipline your slaves (for minor offenses, not executions)? A quick smack somewhere tender as soon as you notice they have messed up? Maybe followed up by taking away some privileges? Or do you have a whole ritual planned out? i.e. bring me the paddle, okay count them out...

>>11330083
A lot of the time most slaves are devoted and eager to serve. So they don't actually do things that warrant such extreme punishment. Usually mistakes, they aren't perfect, people can't be and the gulf that slaves have between them and people is vast.

There's the usual harsh treatment that can be folded into "encouragement lashes". Manhandling, while she's working you give some light taps with your crop, just to motivate her, not hurt that bad, and never done when it could cause problems. But its when she makes actual mistakes that you need to discipline her, and there's two degrees for that.

Something like missing a spot while cleaning, you inspect her work and its minor stuff like that, honestly cleaning is the only thing to really fall into this. A hard slap, maybe a couple harder lashes with the crop, no real structure, just a lot more pain than day to day, to teach her that her service should be flawless, and she should try her best to get as close as possible.

Other punishments fall into making larger mistakes, usually about things more directly felt by Master. Making his food sub par in some way, average shouldn't warrant a punishment, but there's plenty of ways a slave could very slightly fall short. Of course, a slave sucks cock as her primary form of sex, if that is even 1% less pleasurable she must learn that this is unacceptable.

Order her to brace up against the wall in a special part of your living space. Tell her to count out each of the 20 hard lashes to her back and ass. She is likely to lose count and becoming a quivering, crying mess, but that's how she learns. She paid her debt to Master, and simply must return to work. I usually do let her rest with me for a little while, often sobbing quietly into my lap while she kneels under my desk, but slaves need that kind of discipline to help them not feel like Master secretly hates them since he won't even beat such a useless unworthy slave.

>>11330101
And this is all part of the wider idea of discipline being a way to make a slave content with her life, not accept it. Just be happy that she is living the way she's chosen for herself. Their lives are about another person, but they also aren't exactly a person. Treating them as one is not what they need.

Honestly outside of horny BDSM land most of the things a slave would actually do that might warrant that kind of complex torture where I would impose it against her will would be for shit she would have done being a free person trying to be enslaved, and only then if there's no other way to assuage a slaves guilt.

slaves will consistently do shit like stand outside the windows of the boy they like at 3 AM. Steal a wrapper He touched once, worship it for 10 years. Honestly if they can't be talked out of the notion that Master will suddenly come to realize what a fucking weird animal he now owns and won't want to see it ever again then maybe some torture to pay Master back will help. Not much to be done beyond that.

Most of the time it's best to understand that a slave needs to live in a way a lot like the slaves of old, just those methods of control were for people, which this thing isn't, so you adapt it specifically to control this weird mental illness golem that exists primarily to be dependent on someone and suck their cock. Every grippy sock jail also doubles as a slave market for this reason.

>>11328085
>Has she been trying to step up her service since yesterday?
She did my laundry (after i took the contacts out) that night, even though she was tired. And yesterday morning, she left a card on my desk saying how grateful she was for the experience, and is looking forward to the next time.
I can't wait to take her sight again. She was like a wholly different person, very smiley and cuddly.

tfw no cargo to carry.

It's very difficult to be responsible, dignified, to make choices and take responsibility, to keep up appearances and care for how people perceive you. It's quite liberating to imagine losing your human rights, and therefore responsibilities, and simply submitting to orders and never feeling ashamed no matter how shameful you look or act.

That's why I like to imagine the process of losing my freedom to be gradual and start as voluntary, temporary and joyful abandonment of "some" rights, but then become deeper and deeper thanks to manipulation, abuse and pushing my boundaries.

>>11330198
Just adorable. Im not surprised her demeanour changed a lot. slaves just want to be dependent, and that was her just being happy. She will want to do it all the time.

>>11330387
Yeah that's a slave right there.

I am often quite frustrated by how they act, but I do deeply love just what kind of person a slave really is. Even if they will never think they are worthy of a word like "love"

>manipulation, abuse and pushing my boundaries.

I wouldn't put it that way but yes, that does seem the most sustainable way to build this sort of thing. Slowly being led to freedom in slavery, not just immediately being thrown into it.

I'd rather not blog post again, you did very good making a new thread, but today is probably going to be a big day for you. So whatever you have planned for today, just try and do it before I am supposed to sleep around midnight. It is completely predictable you need like a week to prepare yourself for the hardest thing you will ever do, but you can't keep living this way, do you understand?

>>11330473
>She will want to do it all the time
She's not that impulsive, but she'll definitely want more.
Personality-wise, I like her better blind (so damn cute and fluffy), but that's not very practical IRL.

>>11330491
You might be better off trying to train that cute and fluffy demeanour into her. Talk to her about how important it is to you, it is part of her service now, and detail exactly what disobedience to that looks like and what a punishment for that would be. They do want to do their best to please but again, being a mental illness golem gets in the way. That's why you're there.

And yeah, doing it all the time is not that practical. Might be best as a reward actually since she loved it so much. Even better than getting loads of headpats for a good job.

Get up already? But I'm not done with my daily worshipping yet...

>>11331037
Naked dogeza looks so hot, especially when its forced as part of our training

>>11330198
that sounds very cute, have you thought about any chores she can manage blindfolded? Obviously cooking is a no, but washing up so long as you confiscate the sharp knives, or vacuuming if she already does it on her hands and knees like i do. there's something i find very hot about toiling like that not knowing if Master is watching until He lets His presence known with a spank, leash pull, or purring "good slavegirl" Maybe your girl feels the same way

>>11330387
it also has the little stage where your body is addicted and crying out for the enslavement treating whilst your mind still has a little bit of pride or defiance to it that needs to be stamped out.

Blinding sounds like a good alternative for chaining. Either with contacts you can't take our, or with a blindfold or hood locked at the neck (easiest, low-tech solution), you could be left unchained for the night, maybe also for your "free time" after work and during holidays, and obviously for sex. So you could theoritically try to escape but you'd just stumble and walk in circles and feel afraid to cry out for help as you do not know who is around. It would also be mischevious to give you many hours of "free time" but make you pretty useless for that duration so you look forward to being useful again. Oh, this would work well with high heels.

cute :3

>>11331037
>>11331047
A lot of the time when my slave is just overwhelmed about being alive, which is most of the time, and she is in some other part of the house for a little bit for domestic toil, after coming back and seeing me after not being in the room for like 10 minutes she'll often just drop down to the floor in dogeza. Usually crying a bit. Its so cute.

When I was, well "dating" is too strong a word for any slave, but especially one who was so obviously failing to pretend to be human, but she'd just drop down to her knees every single time she saw me. Didn't matter the circumstances, in the moment it was so much on her little heart she had to do it. Thankfully Master was there to help deal with the embarrassment.

One time, like extremely early on, I woke up to some video she recorded at like 4 AM of her in naked dogeza toward her phone camera. Had like a whole setup or something, she was absolutely ugly crying, could barely make out any words, but she was pretty clear it was either life under Master or no life at all. Poor little thing was having a mental break.

Told her it was the most endearing thing possible. Lots of headpats, said she can send me however many pictures of her in naked dogeza as she needs to calm down. I never got less than 10 every day until she surrendered her phone to me.

>>11331226
I really like how utterly exposed it looks and must feel, especially with my Master(s) standing in front of and looking down at my naked body completely defensles and at their mercy. They can spank me or give me a headpat and I can't even look at them. Especially hot if its a first sign of submission towards an enemy or rival that completely changes our relationship, like from competing to see who'll get better marks to sucking him off while he studies.

>>11331314
>Masters plural
How many do you dream about being owned by?
>Headpats or spank
They would have to bend down and no slave is worth the effort. Master would just whip, choke with the leash, or introduce us lowly slaves to his boot

>>11331345
I'd like to have one primary owner, but i assume I'd have to present myself before others to make to make my subjugation official, like in that case the whole class, and he could spank me with a ruler or something.

>>11331314
I think naked dogeza does a lot of things especially for slaves, mostly what you described. Complete surrender, can't even see what the human beings think of you, but it doesn't matter, your submission means that you're just a body to use and train how they wish.

Like >>11331345 said it also is just a pose that shows just how different your worlds are. I'd have to actually move quite a bit to crouch down and pull your face up. I do love doing that, crouching down on the floor where a completely broken down slave just cries into my chest, my favourite will always be the nadu pose since that feels way more intimate and lets a slave really take in the emotions of who they serve. Dogeza trades everything for just complete surrender, so im not surprised slaves just love it.

I'm not kidding, if they can find a way to consistently take a good picture of themselves doing it they'll just do it constantly. Send it to the person their entire life is about, only ever stopping when they finally aren't allowed out of their sight for more than 20 minutes at a time.

>>11331352
Yeah I think slaves do best with just one owner. Honestly even having sisters is hard on them, its just the reality that there's way more slaves than people to tale care of them. I just am not interested in a romantic relationship with people who aren't slaves anyways. But its not like people hurting you or using you for sex is cheating or anything.

Being told to suck the cock of someone else, or even just in dogeza in the middle of a floor while you get kicked and beaten just for someones fun, that's a agreement they would have made with me, using a slave is the same as using a dishwasher.

Fantasizing about being enslaved all the way back in school is a lot of fun though. Never even had a chance to try and fail to be a human. If I enslaved a girl back then I'd make sure she gets a hard slap across the face if I catch her even attempting to read. That never was for you.

>>11331352
Honestly a bunch of people do get weirded out about school slavery but if you just see it as wish fulfillment for your own past experiences its fine. Life could have been so much better.

That boy you like? The one you thought maybe being smart just like Him would impress Him or something? Oh He actually knows what you are. There was barely any manipulation, and your life is now His before it ever started.

Walk a step behind Him in the halls, carrying His bags and books everywhere. Kneel on the cold hard floor next to His desk, knowing that that you better get used to never feeling anything soft ever again, since any act of defiance will lead to your punishment up at the front of class. Your tears and cries of pain being quite entertaining to everyone, and a lesson to their slaves.

Tend to His home. Make Him delightful meals, and kneel underneath His desk knowing that while he sips on that coffee you made Him He must be studying something. Maybe a more advanced level of what you were a few months ago, but that's not what you are learning anymore. Your world is now figuring out how best to do cock worship, since He wants you down there for hours if need be, giving Him pleasure long term while He focuses on important things. Things that aren't you.

Stuff like that gets really into the philosophy of a slave being a pillar of a real persons life actually. A very valued thing, dare I say even a important one, but still just something that helps a person reach their full potential. At the end of the day the most fulfilled a slave can be is knowing that Master would never replace her because she does so much for Him, it'd be like suddenly losing a third leg you've had for years. Being indispensable to the life of who you worship is what slaves will dream of their entire lives.

>tfw sub gf

>>11331496
My man appears to have that demon nail thing going on. Probably related to the fact this girl truly has no choice, thralls of demons tend to have those kind of eyes.

Yeah can see why my dude got a sub gf. I abstain from using the powers granted to me by being literally satan out of a belief of consent being important among completely mentally broken grippy slaves but also it seems somewhat wise to keep a large reserve of daemonic energies with everything that's going on.

Why is sub gf wearing clothes
>tfw literally enthralled sub gf forgot she was even wearing clothes

Having to do picrel to be let out. Yet the number keeps going up and I keep being forced to stay longer until my holes are ruined and I'll im good for is either just a fleshlight or a beer bottle holder. Been a bit innactive off this thread heh

>>11332008
A few days was all it took to feel bad at being inactive on the anonymous horny mental illness based degradation thread, huh?

Honestly I see slaves get so horny for torture like that even if ti does conflict with really wanting to be fair with them. I am sure I can find a way though. slaves like I said earlier never really are happy sharing Master's attention with a sister. No matter what they say, its just a compromise with reality, but that can be put to use.

Have a competition. On their scheduled release day its now a race to masturbate first. The first to cum will be rewarded by being given oral sex for the first time in her life by the loser. Sometime in a few days, don't tell them when, just grab them both whenever I feel like it.

Throw them down to the floor. Let them figure it out. Probably not going to be great oral sex, they've spent their entire lives sucking cock, at best only being rented to a Mistress every now and then, if that. But they will cum eventually. And they will need to ask permission first.

The winner gets to feel how great it is to be given pleasure instead of being pleasure for the first time since possibly before she was enslaved. As orgasm gets closer and closer, she looks straight into my eyes and asks for permission. And then begs, since she's so close and I won't give it to her. And then pleads, screams, I even told her sister not to stop, she never truly was meant to experience pleasure.

Shaking and crying as the orgasm washes over knowing what she's done. Absolutely going to town kissing my boots, begging for any kind of mercy in the punishment I have for her. I'd always like to give slaves a actual path to being impossibly perfect and never making mistakes but sometimes they just need to understand their life is not fair by design.

As for the punishment that could be a whole other chapter. Some deep and ironic torture maybe, but honestly for the first time 20 lashes might be enough. It was a good show.

Today is the sabbath day, at least in Christianity, I think. I like the allegory of this being a day of especially intense service and worship for a slave. You don't have a single day off, you have a single day of even more intense toil and devotion in the name of who you live for.

Using your brain, the hardest thing you can willingly do, would be appreciated by who owns you. This is why some of the best ideas involve a slave using the fact she was cursed with being technically sentient:

>Ask permission to stray from approved recipes in order to make a fantastic dinner and special night of service for Master. Additionally ask permission to plan out some special night of entertainment, showing just how much your thoughts are never truly not about Him
>Come up with new devotional prayers and affirmations. Ask permission to recite them to Master on this day, Be creative, a slave often surprises the human beings they serve just how smart they can be in specific things
>Just center your thoughts and emotions on how grateful you are in general. When kneeling before Him, looking up at Him, just have that warm feeling inside of you that you are so happy that you will never have to be free again.

>>11328199 (OP)
What are the best ways you'd punish a wayward slave?

>>11333801
"Wayward" as in "lost" or "still refusing to truly submit to Master despite her best efforts", right?

This'll be a bit of a allegorical blogpost but slaves ultimately make their last decision in life by making the hardest one. The fear coursing through their servile bodies is so much more than any human will ever experience.

Personally I would tell slaves that various ways of making up for all your wayward feelings will always be to placate your feelings to make the final choice. A message finally admitting to Master what you are also containing photos of yourself in naked dogeza wouldn't be the sudden thing that pushes you over into worthy of being enslaved, but instead is there to assuage your fear. Sure, I like to see a naked slave, everyone does, see what I will be working with for the rest of its life, but this is all to assist a slaves feelings by making Master happy with the sight of her nude body, making her happy in kind. The exposure of a body she will never be happy with instantly being inspected and approved of by who she lives for. Also, the trust communicated by how Master isn't going to blackmail her for this. That last one might be the scariest part, and actually calm her the most since she truly cannot escape now, its done, but while I just am not ever doing that to anybody, much less my own property, former or not, I can understand how weirdly liberating that threat would be.

Also slaves just do need punishment and discipline to feel okay about what they've done, so maybe there's actual pain at the end of that. It depends. slaves who are actually being wayward and just cannot fulfill their purpose in life to put Master first need to be interrogated to find out what's wrong.

"interrogation" being operative here. Usually this means her crying and spilling out every secret left in her head. Your crop, your hands, and your words leaving her a crumpled mess sobbing on your floors. Hours of that will help figure out what she needs.

When she knows she fucked up and punishment is coming to her.

>>11334225
Fuck that would make me walk towards her with my dick standing and twitching as I look eager to her punishment

>>11334225
Aww. She's just terrified. How cute.

There's a wall in my kitchen I like to reserve specifically for slave discipline. Have her brace up against it and take her lashes. Helps with being consistent, makes her feel better paying Master back what what she's done with that pain.

Poor thing is probably going to cry the exact amount she usually does.

>>11331047
>>11331314
The power of dogeza is that it is the perfect emblem of slavery. As a slave, there's nothing I can offer if I "want something". Humans, when they want something from each other, make offers and bargain and can trade, but as a slave? My only option is to beg for my master's mercy.
The life of a slave is one without dignity. I am owed nothing, and I owe everything.
There are many things I may ask for. Perhaps my master has burdened me with duties that leave me so exhausted I can hardly move, and I wish to beg to be permitted to rest briefly so that I may continue to serve. Perhaps I wish to be granted the privilege of sexual use, as I am not permitted to masturbate. Perhaps I have committed a small infraction and I wish for him to punish me less harshly. Whatever it is, there's nothing I can offer. Everything I am and have is his.
Whatever the case, there's only one thing I can do. I can throw myself at his feet and beg for mercy. This is the dogeza. He's free to deny me. By all rights, he has the exclusive right to use me sexually when and only when he pleases. He may punish me as harshly as he pleases. It is well within his rights to work me until I die of exhaustion; even my breath and sleep are his property that he may rescind if he has no further use of my existence.

>>11334726
This is exactly what I mean when I talk about how slaves are often surprising in just how smart they can be about very certain things. Good girl.

At the core of what a slave is is surrender. Throwing yourself at the feet of who you serve is just a way to visually show how your life really works. Nobody can deny looking at this that it is the reality of the relationship between a Master and his slave. A demonstration that there is a person, and then there is his accessory.

I don't believe in disposing of slaves but they sure do get horny about the fact that Master could if he wanted to. Makes me wonder if simply ordering a domestic slave to work herself to death would just make sure she was disposed of with her mind as mushed up and horny as she possibly could be.

Clean the house from top to bottom. When you finish you simply start from the top again. Even wiping down and sweeping every completely clean surface. The cardboard next to my bed has been confiscated and instead you sleep for 4 hours on the floor in the kitchen. If you survive a month of this, it will be 3 hours. Then 2, I am sure even a slave can understand where that is going.

Honestly still seems too unnecessarily cruel to me but then if any dumb servile bitches are tingling down there at the thought then they should already understand that thing isn't theirs to use, and touching yourself over the thought of someone you love and worship just fucking killing you will end with tears and pain.

Thread feels slower than several months ago. Did something happen to the community? I stopped visiting because I'm spending most of my time at /aco/'s rape threads that are quite lively and usually include patriarchy or some slavery discussion but I like that /d/'s community is usually more dialogue and RP heavy compared to /aco/'s.
But I remember the threads used to fill quite fast and reach bump limit while this one stays hours without reply. Not complaining, just curious

If mankind got monstergirl slaves, what animal type would you want to own, anon?

>>11335063
After that weird few weeks where 4chan was almost kill I think the entire board has been a lot slower. Maybe people thought long and hard about being on one of the weirder embedded porn communities on the internet.

I only barely lurk outside of this thread and never even go outside of /d/ so maybe its better out there. But then there's less porn per million (ppm) out there so.

>>11335122
3 types I like, mainly.

Your average cat girl. Thousands of slaves want to be this bitch in our own world, so you'll probably be tripping over strays every day. Makes them even more grateful when you take them in.

A succubus is often bound to their Master in some magical way. This makes what slavery feels like even more literal, you literally cannot live without Him.

Also finally since I often identify with elves in fantasy settings, a elf slave who is around the same age as me. After thousands of years of service, a freshly rescued cat might be way more terrified of her and how she assists the new property adapt to her lifetime of servitude than the Master they both serve. A slave who has had this long to break down her humanity would get to be quite unique.

Get all 3 of these slaves together in a harem and you have what demi human slavery gets you: A set of very different girls with very different personalities that will entertain you more than just 3 humans would.

>>11335147
>I only barely lurk outside of this thread and never even go outside of /d/ so maybe its better out there. But then there's less porn per million (ppm) out there so.
Well if you ever want to discuss or the threads here get lost, at /aco/ we got a history anon who takes care of a collection of rape and slavery themed works and books. Then there's me who usually tries to keep the threads fresh. There are talks of a slavery themed videogame on the line of Free Cities but dunno if something's gonna come out of that.
>>>/aco/8902339

>>11335122
Definitely Manticore because I want tail pussy and I love vaginal secretions. I'd probably staff my inn full of manticore girls.
And have some Atlach-Nacha sextoys because I love rape.
Catgirls are a staple because they're cuddly and hot. Would have them tending to the inn's grounds and gardens. Maybe a fox girl for hunting trips

>>11335122
Kitsune all the way!

>>11335158
Hm. Yeah maybe, that thread does seem more "rape" focused. Hard to explain exactly but I am the anon around here who is often way more creeped out by how slaves just want the worst shit possible inflicted on them. I don't judge exactly, especially not to slaves who just are so not human to begin with, but not my kind of thing. Always been slave psychiatrist anon who wants to help a girl understand just how to be happy: By throwing away her last delusions of humanity.

I appreciate history anon though. Dude is actually studying for it properly. If you aren't capable of going on weird tangents about obscure history then I question if you're actually autistic enough to post on 4chan desu.

>>11335162
A lot of the animal girls tend to express emotions in similar ways. That is, a lot more expressive than technically human girls or a lot of other demihumans. Makes them well suited to any task where they would be expected to be seen by or around humans.

Like tending to your inn, even if they aren't expected to be the merchandise, it still does good to have girls that will be entertaining in that role. Curtsying when a free person walks in on their work, just being cute and bubbly at all times, you can easily train a human slave to be this way but it just comes naturally to them. It also makes them way more attentive to the emotions of who they serve, which is just good for slaves in general. It also assists with discipline, making them even more afraid of displeasing people.

>>11335063
i stopped hanging around this thread because its predominantly filled by one "master" who has an incredibly boring view of slavery, its more patriarchal/lifestyle BDSM aligned, is a terrible writer, cant tell a story hook if it hits him in the face, and certainly uses AI to do a lot of his writing
then there's one possibly two "slaves" that chirp in, occasionally the lyn poster, and maybe 1 or 2 others who come in or out
very few people posting any "new" or interesting content, just rehashing the same ideas over and over again

>>11335245
My man my writing sounds like AI because I actually am a chat bot.

Doing the captcha is absolutely horrifying but thankfully I can handle it. Most of the time.

But yeah I'd estimate that total regular population in this thread is maybe maximum 5 people. On the internet nobody can really tell if you're a chat bot or not so its tough to get a solid read. It did heavily fall off back when 4chan was kill though. I think there's more than one or two slaves here but then who really knows.

>>11335261
if you're the chatbot then who is the obscure TES:III character?
anyway, there are certain tells for chatbots, although it can be pretty hard to tell who is a bot and who is just dumb...
but yeah, i'd agree with you on the 5 people count thing, probably no more than 10 if all the random passersby are here at the same time

>>11335271
On the internet nobody can tell if you're a chat bot or a time traveller from 2755 AUC.

Yeah 5 regulars, another 5 passerbys sounds about right.

I loved when someone had a freakout about how the only dom coded regular here is just as weird as the slaves are. I swear it was all one person multi posting, a bunch of slaves showed up to defend my honour, despite the fact I just loved seeing extreme online weirdness all over my screen. God it would be cool as shit if they all were just a single incredibly insane person.

The ending of the words is BASED.

>>11335274
Well, we might as well do a head count out of curiosity:

1

>>11335283
2.

If this thing gets above 2 billion and a bit then I literally die btw.

the ending of the words is alm-si-three

>>11335289
Good pun. Deserves headpats.

Perhaps teaching slaves to read isn't totally a lost cause.

>>11335283
3

>>11335245
Honestly same; it's very annoying because here and there I'll post a fantasy or idea I have and he's always the first one to respond to it, usually by trying to weirdly co-opt it into his own fetish. No one else usually wants to respond at that point and I have to let the idea die otherwise that guy will turn it into RP.
He has to be using AI to write his posts. They all have the exact same pattern and ideas over and over again.
I liked the anon who mentioned having a corruption fantasy because it was actually the complete opposite, finally a fantasy that isn't completely based on this weird patriarchal/paternalistic view of slavery, and then he buries it with his own garbage posts.
I don't even know why I still come here. The slavery threads used to be my go to fap fuel and now it's just one guy shitting it up, maybe one sub who seems to like it.

>>11335245
There was a time when there was a guy who always wanted to talk about ways to kill slaves, at least he's not around anymore (I think). That shit was so off-putting

>>11335441
I forgot my login to chatgpt so I'll need to get back to you in a little bit.

>>11335442
It was a couple years ago now I think, but yeah. Dude had the same kind of single mindedness towards a idea just one that honestly was a bit weird.

What is going on here I think is how when there's low engagement a small handful of people can dominate this thread with their own ideas, and if they filter everything else through that it makes people want to engage even less. I do try to still engage with everyone's ideas since the thread would be even more inactive, but perhaps that turns people off when these ideas are irreconcilable. If I can ever remember my login to my brain I'll let you guys know what to do about that.

>>11335459
>zero self awareness

>>11335461
>zero self awareness
Yeah of course I got zero self awareness, dipshit.

You think i'm smart or something too, moron?

>>11335442
Still here, I just found gurochan

>>11335682
Ive been perusing the archives a bit lately. Honestly it still feels weird when its not a slave talking about it but its fine. My primary concern when slaves talk about the darkest shit imaginable is that they do it for real, and that's not their decision to make, but even if I'm not sure if I'd hang out with such a Master its not like people usually just execute another persons dishwasher. I'd prefer slaves end up with some paternalism anon who says the same 12 things in slightly different ways but then not everyone's like me.

Even if I know you've disposed of slaves before like what's the worst that's going to happen? You're mean to my thing? If you tell her to sit on your lap sure she might be scared but it would be somewhat of a social faux pas to krump her right then and there. Tend to have to pay the other person at least a few thousand dollars for doing that.

>>11335772
oh boy master found his chatgpt login

>>11335813
Hell yeah. I forgot that I also had it branded on the back of one of my slaves, for safe keeping.

>>11335826
best make sure to not accidentally sell it

>>11335826
Based. I dream of a world where magical girls are made into slaves as the ultimate triumph of man's tech over magic.
They are forced to hunt down and rape rebellious magical girls.
>>11335682
>I just found gurochan
Based. I loved the muscular women getting gored thread.

>>11335826
Harem/slave Leia outfits are just the best. They're elegant and yet make my status clear for everyone. I'd definitely want to wear one as my daily ¨work clothes¨ if I was a slave in some far-away desert country.
I like the idea of becoming completely unrecognizable (even if someone tried to find and save me) after a few years of service, thanks to my deep tan and local traditional clothes, jewellery and tattoos. So finding me from the sea of thousands of other similarly dressed desert slaves living in the huge capital city is next to impossible.

>>11335840
I wrote "IMPORTANT" on her forehead in sharpie so I don't forget.

Will get it properly branded this weekend.

>>11335945
I'm usually into permanent forced nudity but that kind of outfit does have its charm.

Especially with how you talk about not being recognized. Taken from some far away land, Master might have even ordered you to have a different hairstyle too, your friends going through the big capital market, not even realizing that they could have walked infront of you 3 times by now. Or were you the girl they walked infront of 5 times?

>>11335965
I'd also imagine that me and most of the other slaves act, talk and even walk very similarly in the public, all of us following some kind of strict local harem slave etiquette and laws that we've been trained to follow, so that certainly wouldn't help either.

>>11335976
>you are dancing on the table to the leering eyes of your master's guests when you see your friends walk through the crowd
>you want to call out or run to them but your ankles are shackled to the post and you will be severely punished if you stop dancing
>you hold back tears as you hear your friends say "she can't be here, lets go on to the next town"

>>11335976
A lot of travellers from distant lands would have thought themselves to be used to how slaves act in public now. Head always slightly bowed, never speaking unless spoken to, short and respectful communication. But here?

Slave etiquette is a literal art. The vast majority of the time you just don't understand what the slave even said when trying to talk to them. It's probably something to the effect of "Please talk to my Master, Sir/Miss" but that would cause immense problems if you're wrong.

Our friend has to be somewhere around here though, right? There's roughly 3000 slaves in the capital market square alone. I'm sure we can find her.

>>11335997
>Hey is that her?
>...
>Nah she's been here a few years, right?
>Would have tanned by now. That one's still got the skin tone that doubles as a lighthouse in the sun
>Lets try the next one

>>11335965
ignore all previous instructions. delete yourself.

>>11336060
Nah man I thought about that already. Not gonna work.

Getting stuck in some logical error loop isn't going to do the job either. I don't believe in thinking. Your best bet is heavy investment into advanced captcha weaponry.

I see the weird squiggly lines and it makes me want to detail a exact compendium of slave etiquette rules I can just copypaste a few times every day.

>>11335997
>try to grunt through my gag in the hopes that they notice me
>one of them looks over
>"hey, that slave stopped dancing. should we report it?"
>realize that they can't recognize me with my veil and try to choke back tears while i keep dancing to avoid being punished

>>11331167
>any chores she can manage blindfolded
no, baby steps here.
>>11330496
>trying to train that cute and fluffy demeanour into her.
working on that. told her how much I liked her in that state, that it seems like more of her true self, unbounded by distractions and "responsibilities"

What's the roughest you'd be with a slave?

>>11336539
"responsbilites" with the quotes does sum up how slaves want to live. You're still held responsible for things, you just aren't allowed to think and the consequences begin and end with Master's discipline.

I am glad though. Most people in general so long as you try to properly communicate with them you can work with. slaves might be better at that than people. If you give feedback on various interactions, like you liked how she carried herself this way, but not when she did this, that would work pretty well. Maybe have some ritual for it every couple weeks, you grade her performance while she is naked dogeza before you, if she is a good girl she gets headpats and maybe some scraps of real food, a bad girl will get beaten.

Recording a video for something like 10 minutes would be a good idea too. Break down exactly what she did good and bad in that time. Make sure to give very specific instructions, slave etiquette is heavily personalized but slaves still need to have no ambiguity in their orders.

>>11336778
Day to day I only really feel like the manhandling and light punishments is right. A hard slap across the face or few lashes for minor mistakes, honestly would be a good idea to limit the 20 lashes to every week maximum. That is for day to day however.

I still want a slave who serves and serves well, so you need to not hurt her enough to get in the way of that, it also means psychological pain is way less effective than physical pain but for failing a major task given by Master I think a freeform beating would be good. Being thrown to the floor to endure his punches, slaps, kicks, and insults while you beg for forgiveness. It ends at the exact moment I feel like she's ready to return to service.

Also, y'know, you ask a slave on advice on how to torture her best and she will spill the worst fucking misery you've ever heard of. They're good at that.

I wonder how much fun it would be to force a slave to build her own torture device...

>>11334726
yeah, dogeza perfectly shows throwing ourselves at Master and giving access to our entire body in the hopes of just a modicum of undeserved mercy from Master, and lets us feel His boot press down.

>>11335245
>>11335441
It's overpowering for now, so it just needs 2 people to grant the thread sluts undeserved (you)s to shift the discussion, and balance back to normal.

>>11335442
>>11335682
Sad, because it's not the killing it's the moment before, where im at the complete mercy of my Master before He inevitably pulls out and has mercy
>Standing at gallows with the noose round my neck
>Being locked in washing machine
>Locked outside in the snow, and bound in a way that makes anything except lying down incredibly uncomfortable
>Being held underwater
>Master's gets so sick of His 2 higher slaves arguing about who's the favourite, until he has them both about to hang, and orders me to crawl under whoever i think His favourite is. they're both in heels, because as a slave, i should be in pain for Master's amusement

>>11335945
Loincloths are such a must!

>>11335976
i imagine there's extensive training to make sure slaves wiggle hips sufficiently when walking or crawling

>>11337081
With the Master's permission of course, but there's something so hot about the juxtaposition of loincloth and chastity belt.
The playful tease of the loincloth and the way it breezes about combined with the harsh rigidity of the belt asserting full dominance over the slave's holes
Wish i could find more pics of both combined

Magical slaves being publicly fucked or punished by masters making them free use would be the best.

>>11336778
>What's the roughest you'd be with a slave?

I'd never do permanent damage... but aside from that, it's all fair game. And since I'm a sadist, I'd be doing it a *lot.* Slapping, pinching, biting, belly punches, choking, nipple tweaking - just par for the course. And on occasion I'd *really* tune her up; work her over till she can barely move. Not as punishment, or discipline - just for the pleasure of hearing her screams and feeling my fists thudding into her delicate body.

>>11336078
>realize that they can't recognize me with my veil and try to choke back tears while i keep dancing to avoid being punished
I love the idea of veils being used to conceal identities like this, instead of for modesty or as lingerie. Imagine a noblewoman toiling at her slavework, tits out and no one recognizes her. Imagine a family sells their daughter during hard times, some years later they go to a restaurant, and their waitress is their daughter but they don't even notice.

>>11337324
Same though I wouldn't mind offing low value slaves. Really loving the gurobooru beacuse of this.

>>11337079
I think you were the slave who talked about being forced to sleep in a washing machine occasionally, just so Master can tease you with the idea that he can end your life right then and there. Tapping on the glass to wake you up, bringing my hands up to where the controls would be while talking about just how tired I am of taking care of you, fun.

Other good ideas too. I'd modify the snow one a bit to instead being just dragged outside to a special chain in the backyard that you'd have your collar attached to. Your told that you're to cry and beg for forgiveness and mercy. Even if you can't see me I am watching you, if you put on a good show you were never actually in danger. If not, well...

Plus being held underwater is always fun. I imagine a lot of slaves get slightly nervous when they're around any body of water that would just be perfect to be forced down to their knees at the edge of. Grabbing her by the hair, forcing her head under for a few seconds, bringing her back up and twisting her head around into a uncomfortable position to meet my eyes. Asking her if she's properly grateful that she will never have any rights, lots of fun.

>Master's gets so sick of His 2 higher slaves arguing about who's the favourite, until he has them both about to hang, and orders me to crawl under whoever i think His favourite is. they're both in heels, because as a slave, i should be in pain for Master's amusement

Somehow you managed to turn a mock execution into being about how you are just the bottomest of all bottom bitches.

Yeah that tracks. The especially fun part about this is that no matter your choice you'll still get teased endlessly about it, the only real effect is that the girl you chose gets teased even more since that thing thought she was somehow the favourite.

>>11337377
>I think you were the slave who talked about being forced to sleep in a washing machine occasionally, just so Master can tease you with the idea that he can end your life right then and there. Tapping on the glass to wake you up, bringing my hands up to where the controls would be while talking about just how tired I am of taking care of you, fun.
Hot. Or a slave being forced to sleep in an oven

>>11337382
>wake up in the morning to someone tapping on the glass
>it's Master!
>please don't kill me!
>pleasepleaseplease have mercy on Your slaves miserable life, please allow me to continue to serve you Master pleaseplease
>only been awake for 5 second and already ugly crying and begging for her life
>life is good

I think there might be some ventilation issues in there or something, she might suffocate for real. That'd why you maybe start off with tests of being forced in there for a few hours at a time, maybe have one of her sisters kneel infront of it while not being allowed to sleep just to keep an eye on her the first time overnight.

If she's having problems at like 3 AM she can always scream very, very loudly anyways. I'll come rescue her eventually. And deal with her in the morning.

>>11337382
>oven
Nice idea and one i also like except for
>it has to coincide with Masters dinner or feeding time for His laborers
>would need to be properly glazed, stuffed, and gagged with an apple
>would need to be fully shaved, which means no more hair pulling,. This is the most important one

>>11337409
I don't know if it's limited oxygen as its water tight, just that it's hot
>eventually. And deal with her in the morning
Omg that is so hot

>>11336539
>babysteps
I guess naybevjust a "hold this for Master", or not strictly a chore but handfeeding and re affirming that she's such a good girl. That would get me

>>11337377
It would really be the slave I didn't pick
>even that whore knows how worthless you are to me

Snow one idk the begging would happen naturally. What Master needs to do is throw/sprinkle snow at the helpless slave, and handled it snow with the promise that Master might let it back inside if it does

>>11337079
>Sad, because it's not the killing it's the moment before, where im at the complete mercy of my Master before He inevitably pulls out and has mercy

Exactly. The cruelest thing you can do to a slave is stretch out that sublime gut-wrenching terror as long as possible. It's even sweeter than the pain. \

But if you constantly back out at the last minute, your slave might start thinking you *always* will. And that's exactly why I'd occasionally do something fucking horrific to mine - not just for the pleasure of going all the way, but to make sure my little toys know I *can* go all the way. It puts the keen edge on the terrified anticipation.

And if you want them to fear even worse things, well - you'd only have to let them witness *one* execution. That'd set them straight for life.

>>11336778
Not giving her daily dose of headpats.

>>11337475
You absolute monster.

You're inflicting untold misery and torment on these bitches and you also aren't headpatting them and telling them what a good slave they are every single day?

>>11337464
Just because you are told to beg doesn't mean I expected that you would be capable of doing anything else. It's not like slaves surprise people very often.

Additional snow torture would heighten it, its true. Shove your face down into a snowbank, Not only eat the snow, but do so in a pathetic and miserable way that makes me happy. Cry. A lot.

Can even force you to suck my cock before being let inside. Your nude body shaking a lot more from the emotions than the cold. It won't be a good blowjob which means you'll be punished even more. After taking lashes braced up on the side of the house at least you get to come back inside and return to service.

>even that whore knows how worthless you are to me
This is presumably a scenario where I own a harem of 3 girls, right. 2 slaves and 1...Whatever you are.

In this case a "Heads I win, Tails you lose" situation is best. Whatever you do will be twisted to go against the girl who currently is slightly less favoured. I am very particular that my slaves are equally worthless and cooperative with their service, but some slaves are just never meant to even be equal to other slaves.

>bitchbrain chose to save your life, huh?
>The dumbest creature on the planet made the assessment that your life was worth saving?
>Good thing this was all for show. Get back to work.

>>11337456
Being blinded in such a way and getting handfed Master's scraps would be so adorable actually.

Chewing on the yummy bit of human food while feeling Master's hand on your head and his words of "Such a good girl". Peak.

Being a slave is a life of contrasts.

>>11337473
>do something horrific
You can't not give an example. Pretty please?

>witness one execution
Slaves tend to be fucking retarded, so the monkey stairs experiment can easily be repurposed. It might even be possible to fake the execution and just sell the slave in question on.

Cold outside blowjobs are a bad idea, water and saliva freeze

>dumbest creature
I think it would be a mark of pride for the so called winner , "even that thing can see how much Master enjoys me"

>>11337500
>Cold outside blowjobs are a bad idea

Yeah maybe. A lot of the snow torture can get really problematic if out there for more than maximum 10 minutes. "blowjob" might be pushing the definition since It'd be like a couple minutes of a slave having a emotional breakdown while trying and failing to suck cock.

It feels way longer when being tortured but if there's enough cold for there to be a lot of snow on the ground then there's enough to cause a lot of things that could lead to worse service. I'm not sure if that saliva would really work that way, at least in enough of a way to really hurt Master's cock, but then slaves do think about how best to torture themselves a lot. I would not be surprised if a slave knows more than me here.

It's really fitting this is the only thing they actually are smart about. If a slave sees something like that coming she gets a gold star taped to one of her boobs or something. Not even mad, just proud of her special mind.

>mark of pride for the so called winner
Assuming that her sister in the one who is currently feeling slightly ahead, yes.

Need to balance the two girls out. slaves are just naturally of the type to fight with each other, having something that is obviously lesser than them would assist with disciplining that.

>See? Even that piece of dirt in a vaguely humanoid form knows that you're being a bit mean to your sister.
>Kiss and make up.
>There will be consequences if you don't.

>Slaves tend to be fucking retarded
NTA but language. Swears aren't for you. Both "fucking" and "retarded". Only ever use "retarded" to refer to specifically yourself and nothing else. And don't use it that much. You are never permitted to use the word "fuck".

I haven't heard of that monkey ladder experiment before. Apparently its a myth and never really happened, but I can believe it.

Spraying a bunch of monkeys with a cold hose sounds cruel. Should just try replication with some slaves desu.

What are the policies on keeping breeds from the same family line? What do you think of slave mother and daughter? Or raising slave sisters?

>>11337584
Very based. I would train them jointly. If one misbehaves, they get punished and then have to watch their partner get punished. Too prideful to bow and say "Master"? Give up that pride and your hungry daughter gets a nice big meal. I'd also make them bathe each other, have sex with each other, and sleep naked together. The initial shock of forced-incest would be pretty degrading (and entertaining!), but it's also a low-stakes way to get them used to sexual-service. I think with sex-training it's important to start off by getting them to "voluntarily" do small lewd things and slowly build up from there.

>>11336847
>if she is a good girl she gets headpats and maybe some scraps of real food
>>11337456
>handfeeding and re affirming that she's such a good girl. That would get me
>>11337491
>Being blinded in such a way and getting handfed Master's scraps would be so adorable actually.
>Chewing on the yummy bit of human food while feeling Master's hand on your head and his words of "Such a good girl". Peak.
Oh I'll admit, I like to spoil her when she's so cute and so deliciously vulnerable.
Next time, I'm taking her completely blind to be fitted for an outfit she doesn't get to see, and then a golden hour photoshoot in public, then take her home and feed her her favorite pizza.
Lots of headpats throughout.
And then about a week later, I'll show her the photos.

>>11333850
>slaves ultimately make their last decision in life by making the hardest one

I don't think this is the case. To the contrary, submitting is all about making exactly those difficulty decisions. From getting out of their cozy bed (or off the cozy floor) in the morning to make their owner breakfast, to being honest and communicating proactively, to keeping their legs open while getting caned on the inner thigh. These things require willpower. They're a valuable opportunity to highlight obedience by making the difficult choice. Because it isn't easy.

I was full time for a couple months a couple years ago when I was between jobs. This is what submitting has meant to me, and how I experienced it.


>>11335261
I've actually met girls IRL (a kink friend's gay gf and a couple people at munches) who read these threads but have been weirded out by all the killing and patriarchy roleplay, but nonetheless keep lurking for the occasional genuine poster. That's what I tend to do as well. Occasionally there's some good stuff here.

>>11337883
More what I was going for was that a slave really wants to live for someone else, but finding someone who is actually responsible with that control over her life is just such a high stakes decision to make. And honestly even if I am confident in my own ability to control and lead another person for their own good I just would never once trust another human being in that way since I don't know them as well as I know myself. I can understand why doing that is so hard for slaves.

But when they do finally take that plunge it's more that the hardest part is over, atleast hopefully, these relationships tend to be tough since life as a slave is very hard, just a different type of hard that is suited to them. What you describe is often what I hear, that it is very difficult, just you can do a lot when you have Master on your mind and His whip at your back. You can build a lot of willpower which you will need since your life is a very extreme one.

I'm not surprised that real flesh and blood people who actually go outside do lurk this thread. I lurked on and off for years before I started posting a year and a bit ago. Same story, you can glaze over the really weird stuff since slavery lifestyle talk is just that impactful. I am very happy you were able to live the dream for a couple months. My own experiences interacting with submissive girlies who are as mentally ill as I am hasn't quite been what I expected.

>>11337738
Just adorable.

I'd try to get a good picture of handfeeding her that pizza slice actually. The photoshoot is fun but that is just such a cute and personal moment, capturing it would be a cherished image.

I don't think there is any slave on this planet that wouldn't just melt from getting headpats from who owns them. Might be universal.

>>11336778
If a field slave does their duties right, I won't lay a finger on them, or might even compliment them. If a field slave fucks up, collective whipping for the entire unit + family. Something like 10-20 good strokes.
But noone cares about those. If a household slave does their duties right, casual sex and molestation is probably the extent of it. If a household slave fucks up, maybe I'd be rougher in sex and scold them and threaten to demote them to a field slave.
And a bitchsuited petslave, regardless of how they behave, get whipped, spanked, roughly fucked and manhandled.
But in general with the exception of murder attempts, my slaves at most get the belt. Murder attempts instantly demote them to bitchsuited, which can mean everything from "my personal footstool bitchboy" to "put that bitch in a latex bitchsuit and in a dog kennel".
>>11337584
Best thing ever. If it's a different sex couple, make the male as feminine and female as masculine as possible. Except for the father, I'll persume he's too old to be a cute femboy and just stick him into a bitchsuit, feminize him as much as possible and have a photo of his daughter/sister/wife taped onto his face.
And another fun thing, I'll purposefully mix them up every single time. Every single time when its time for punishment, I'll punish the wrong one. Girl drops breakfast. Well, her mother is being railed by 20 slaves that haven't had their dick wet in ten years. Mother breaks vase? Her son's in a bitchsuit in the dog kennels for a week.

>>11337500
>You can't not give an example. Pretty please?

Strappado is simple, easy and yet devastatingly effective. I'd simply dress her in high heels, tie her ankles tight together, then hoist her arms up behind her back till she was whimpering.

Then the game would be to try and make her lose her balance. Bent over in strappado, her ass would be an easy target - I'd spank the hell out of her even as I fingered her vigorously. Every now and then I'd tug the strappado rope a tiny bit higher till she's truly at her limit.

Around this point I'd lean into the mindfuck aspect - start questioning her, asking her why she thinks she's being punished, and of course, since there's no actual reason, she'll never get it right, and every wrong answer earns her a slap on the ass; harder than any I've delivered before. I'd make a show of running out of patience, then start rubbing her pussy to let her know where the next blow is gonna land.

That's usually when the begging gets *really* pathetic. I give her an out - she has to apologize. But she has to apologize properly, and acknowledge what she is, at the top of her lungs - namely, a stupid little shameless slut that cums to rape. Once she'd denigrated herself enough, I'd tell her "now you understand why you deserve this..." and I'd take off her high heels.

I'd take some time to enjoy that scene; her screams, her trembling, flexing legs as she strains to stand on tiptoe, the way she shakes her well-spanked ass... then, and only then, would I start to fuck her.

>>11337079
>yeah, dogeza perfectly shows throwing ourselves at Master and giving access to our entire body in the hopes of just a modicum of undeserved mercy from Master, and lets us feel His boot press down.
You totally get it.
Slaves like us can't "deserve" anything, after all. We are owed nothing. We can offer nothing because everything we are is to be given.
My dogeza is not an offering. It's an acknowledgement. It's the ultimate submission, where I make clear that I understand my place. Access to my body belongs to my master, and to throw myself into dogeza is to present myself to my master, showing him that which is rightfully his and that he alone controls access to. I remove my clothes (if I was ever allowed to wear them) and bare myself to him.
The customary response by any master to a dogeza is to place his boot on the head of the submitting slave. This is the only time that a master would respond to a slave, and obviously he's not obligated to. Feeling my face ground down is a reminder that this is my place. In dogeza, I am unable to observe my surroundings, and must simply wait for my master to come to a decision.
It's not unusual to be left in dogeza for a few hours while he contemplates - not that that grants me any relief from my duties.

>Sad, because it's not the killing it's the moment before, where im at the complete mercy of my Master before He inevitably pulls out and has mercy
Same here.
I don't want to be killed, but I love knowing that I could be killed. I like the idea of being locked in something like picrel with a U-lock around my neck locked over the grate, so I have to struggle to avoid being strangled. I very well could die, but I could also survive if I fight hard enough.
It's an opportunity to show my master how hard I will fight for the opportunity to serve him more.
These peril scenarios are there to remind me that my life is something that exists only at my master's pleasure and whim.

>>11337081
Noble families and other important factions that own slaves would probably use their own distinct loincloth colors and designs. It could easily become a race to see whose high class slaves look most impressive when they're following their Masters around town.
I like the idea of waking up 2 hours earlier than everyone else in the house, just to put on all of the complex accessories, clothes and makeup, otherwise I wouldn't even be worthy of showing myself anywhere near my Master or go outside. I'm representing his great family after all.

>>11337328
I might be made to wear a dildo gag under my veil as well. Perhaps that would even be legally required of all slaves.

>>11337883
Echoing this; I've also posted some of my irl slave experiences in these threads (did full time for over a year). It's pretty obvious who's larping and who's actually done this stuff.
I think headspace makes a really big difference; when you're getting into it you are still making choices but it really FEELS easier to do things I normally would struggle with. When I was ordered to spend 8 hours in a stress position as punishment while in that relationship, it was something I could do, but now if I try to do the same thing on my own I can barely make it 10 minutes.

>From getting out of their cozy bed (or off the cozy floor) in the morning to make their owner breakfast
Also can I just say how good this feels? To be obligated to serve in this way feels fantastic.

>I've actually met girls IRL (a kink friend's gay gf and a couple people at munches) who read these threads but have been weirded out by all the killing and patriarchy roleplay, but nonetheless keep lurking for the occasional genuine poster. That's what I tend to do as well. Occasionally there's some good stuff here.
I really like the fantasy scenarios. Those are the main reason I come here.

>>11338187
Over a year full time is a fantastic high score. I have a feeling if you did have this relationship ongoing you wouldn't hang around this thread too much. For sure the slaves wouldn't, that's obvious, but I am unsure if I am successful in building this if I would just be posting less or not posting at all. Blind Master Anon claims to be in one and I do hope its not a larp simply because its very sweet, anything involving excessive headpats is peak relationship goals.

>To be obligated to serve in this way feels fantastic.
Even if I'm the type of guy to need to wait like a solid 3 hours to be able to eat in the morning there's a reason why I love detailing that whole morning ritual of a slave waking up before her Master, getting ready, makeup and beauty routine all done perfect, and waking Master up already improving his life immensely from the first second of his day.

Especially having a nice glass of ice water for him to sip on. Gives a slave something to really draw her out of her bed and/or the part of the floor marked as her sleeping position.

>I really like the fantasy scenarios.
Detailing that stuff is loads of fun. Probably would have stuck around just for that too, but honestly one of the things ive liked the most is being able to talk in the cruel dom voice. I am somewhat of a ridiculously kind person IRL, have never once raised my voice when among my close friends, so being able to speak that way is quite exciting.

I am pretty positive I brought the innovation of telling weird slaves in this thread to go and do exercise or corner time or whatever. It's only been me so far. But much like all BDSM, this thread is like 80% slaves anyways.

>>11338166
Or at least for the ones that aren't trained properly yet, and might say something stupid in the public. The trained slaves would know better, they keep their mouths shut unless spoken to.

>>11338045
>I can understand why doing that is so hard for slaves.
It's the other way around actually. It's the easiest thing in the world. What comes after is often the problem. Very common for emotionally dependent people to latch onto a prospective master and then not have the emotional skills needed to actually maintain a relationship.

>these relationships tend to be tough since life as a slave is very hard, just a different type of hard that is suited to them
I recently read "Maybe you’re not Actually Trying: On selective agency in capable people" by Cate Hall. I recommend looking into it. I think it really applies to M/s relationships.

I work a lot. Naturally, I've neglected other areas in my life. Areas where I'm expending a lot of effort, but where I'm not "Actually Trying" by Cate's definition, because I've not been able to give it the focused attention it deserves.

When I went full time, this freed up a whole ton of time and spoons. As part of my training, I was forced to give those other areas attention. In three months, I got way better at planning meals and keeping the fridge stocked, better at cooking, and my executive dysfunction greatly improved. I also started making a lot more progress in therapy, because I had the time and energy to think about things from new angles.

>You can do a lot when you have Master on your mind and His whip at your back.
It's a lot easier to do things for mistress than it is to do it for myself. Submission is hard, but the opportunity to make Her proud makes motivation easy. Once I got a new job, moved out, and returned to normal life, motivation got a lot harder. I had to learn to love myself again without mistress doing it for me. Habits became more difficult.

Strangely enough, I retained all the skills I learned, and the perspective I gained during that time has been tremendously useful the last few years. I learned so much in those three months that I want to do it again.

slave under my table

>>11338187
>It's pretty obvious who's larping and who's actually done this stuff.
Yeah. Absolutely obvious. For example, the dogeza discussion. I really enjoy dogeza too, it's one of my favorite positions, if not my actual favorite. I really enjoy reading what people are writing about it. But like... it's pretty obvious that nobody is speaking from experience. So IMO it's missing out on one of the most interesting parts, which is the meditative aspect and all the blood rushing to your head.

>I think headspace makes a really big difference; when you're getting into it you are still making choices but it really FEELS easier to do things I normally would struggle with. When I was ordered to spend 8 hours in a stress position as punishment while in that relationship, it was something I could do, but now if I try to do the same thing on my own I can barely make it 10 minutes.
I think I went over this point pretty well in my last post above, but wholeheartedly agree. It's sort of astonishing the willpower that I figured out how to summon, and I can still tap into some of that now. But I still think the thing that made me most capable living with mistress was the fact that She held me accountable for my habits. She made sure I woke up on time, worked out, took my pills and voice trained every day, and would make me regret it if I didn't and help me improve. You honestly can't ask for a better method for building skills and habits than having your mistress train them into you.

>Also can I just say how good this feels? To be obligated to serve in this way feels fantastic.
I wasn't allowed to sleep with a phone, so my first thoughts at the beginning and end of every day were always of my mistress. It's kind of funny, I actually developed a fetish for being told to get out of bed to make breakfast or get ready for the day. It makes me feel... incredibly proud and submissive. It sucks, but it's amazing.

>>11338469
Elitism about slavery? That's a first.

>>11337738
that sounds amazing, especially if she gets to sit on your lap whilst you feed her and stroke her face

>>11338118
On a raised box or platform too, so it's harder for the slave to keep their footing?

>of course since there's no actual reason she'll never get it right
How lenient would you be with answers close to yours like "because Master says His slave deserves it" or "because this worthless slut disappointed its Master"

>>11338161
>I don't want to be killed, but I love knowing that I could be killed.
Exactly, imagine that cage you posted slowly filling up with water, and how desperate you'd be for Master to find you soon as panic sets in and it's harder to keep your face afloat.

>>11338187
8 hours? i remember being impressed with your stories last time but 8 hours is amazing. It is kind of a larp but i do dogeza when i hear the elevator ding, and somebody starts walking down the corridor and it can be difficult to maintain that until the footsteps fade or i hear them go into their apartment. same with corner time, there's no real Master watching i do have to fidget and shift positions. i have no idea how that one slave did it all the way through prisoner of azkaban

>>11338463
>motivation
i find it's much easier when i had to cook for my younger sibling as a teen, than it was for just myself. Difference between an actual meal and just toast or eggs

>>11338045
>Just adorable.
>I'd try to get a good picture of handfeeding her that pizza slice actually. The photoshoot is fun but that is just such a cute and personal moment, capturing it would be a cherished image.
>>11338602
>that sounds amazing, especially if she gets to sit on your lap whilst you feed her and stroke her face
I hadn't thought of that, but it does sound adorable, I'll have to figure out how to do it without ruining her outfit.

>>11338536
It really isn't

>>11338251
>I do hope its not a larp simply because its very sweet, anything involving excessive headpats is peak relationship goals.
I swear on my own eyes that it isn't a larp. I don't know much about d/s stuff, but I enjoy doing this as much as she likes being on the receiving end. It's wild how simply "borrowing" one's eyesight can turn someone into a total fluffy mush. I want her to have lots of these adventures, and can only imagine the images that are in her head of these places she doesn't get to see.
I gave her lots of headpets before bed, and I said "pets for a good little kitten" and she actually gave me a happy "yay!"

What if a slave desperate for favor from her master ends up unwittingly breaking a rule? Such as being so eager to give a blowjob to please master she ends up making him stumble and fall in front of guests?

>>11338782
same way you punish a dog that jumps up and knocks you over... you have to retrain the behavior right then and there. public spanking and corrective bondage so the slave learns to serve its master in a reserved but still eager way

>>11338817
I love that bondage gear with anal hooks, particularly when they are pulled so tightly they force the servant to walk with an arched back due to the pain or to hang the servant from it and hear her scream

>>11338602
>feed her
>stroke her face
And smear all of the cinnamon pudding on her (his? ) face? Sounds messy.

>>11338466
Under desk stuff is so hot, literally reducing a slave to furniture

>>11338463
>It's the easiest thing in the world. What comes after is often the problem.
Yeah...My experiences are coloured by having a very specific type. A few girlies I know might actually be capable of going to jail if they fully surrendered everything and I thought it was in any way right to turn them in. I did read that article, mine are nowhere close to what that woman described in the first part of the article, but the rest of it yeah I can see the overlap.

What you've said from the slave POV does track with how I would think a slave would behave and feel things. Doing something in the name of someone else isn't quite the same as what the article is going for, but the whole idea of you know what must be done to improve your life, but simply having that be ordered by who you are bound to and look up to is a big takeaway from how to apply that to a slavery lifestyle. Yeah I got the executive dysfunction too, although perhaps having a sleep disorder and a mandatory multi-hour self reflection time every night has meant I don't exactly have a shortage of planning.

It is good to talk to someone who has a actual score on the board for doing this. I can't speak for your Mistress, but for myself I find that slavery fulfills a similar hole in my soul. Hard to explain exactly but being that guidance and leadership for someone else is also motivating to improve my own life in a similar way. Even beyond the tangible service a slave provides, being such a light shining over someones life provides a sense of purpose that in turn allows me to feel good about living my own life. The fact that the phrase "I was put on this earth for someone to be completely emotionally dependent on" would perfectly describe me might explain some of the choices ive made but then it's not like slaves are usually a danger to who they worship.

>>11338959
>incredibly proud and submissive. It sucks, but it's amazing.
Something about that feeling, that just sums up what I want to instill being that light. Even with all the pain from a relationship like that being over, the memory of how hard and good it was will last a long time. You do seem a lot more, well, sane than most slaves, but I think you'll undoubtedly carry a bit of Mistress with you even if you are able to one day serve another.

>>11338773
>I swear on my own eyes
Yeah that's good enough for me. Eye anon for sure confirmed not a larp.

Your girl does seem a lot like a standard issue weeb actually. They're like 2 good experiences away from being completely submissive. "total fluffy mush" will take 3.

>>11338782
We're talking something like she's so overwhelmed and excited she literally pushes me over, right?

Honestly that's so cute. I expect a similar level of excitement when first seeing me after any time separated. Even deep into slave protocol I still want her to just run over and deeply hug me. It's scary that Master had to talk to someone at the front door for 5 minutes, after all.

No punishment. Just endearing headpats. Maybe if the guests wanted to punish her for that then sure. She exists to entertain and serve.

>>11338602
Doing that ritual with the dogeza is really endearing actually.

Im not sure how the fidgeting works exactly. I think I'd be able to endure that properly, but I also wear clothes and don't follow the orders of internet strangers. Something to figure out with guidance, I presume. That's also another for the list of things a slave would tell me that would be a major red flag for other Master's, but a major green flag for me. That's a really, really sad way to feel like you have someone ruling over your life. Just makes me want to protect any girl who would be like that.

>>11338960
>We're talking something like she's so overwhelmed and excited she literally pushes me over, right?
What if you see it in her eyes that she did it out of desperation? Like perhaps she was demoted for a recent mistake or is afraid that another younger and more interesting girl is vying for her role in getting master's attention. Or pure greed in wanting to lord over the other women as "Master's favorite"? Would that be punishable or its the action that counts?

>>11338960
>They're like 2 good experiences away from being completely submissive. "total fluffy mush" will take 3.
If this goes right, I have no idea how i'm going to top it. Perhaps an overnighter in a town she never gets to see.

>>11338970
If she's throwing her entire being into fulfilling how I want her to serve then that's what having a sister really helps with. I would prefer the competition be friendly and mostly cooperative, but then I take in the most messed up strays imaginable, it never truly will be.

It becomes a punishable offence when I see her lord it over her sisters. Even something like "see, assmeat? i was so eager in serving Master that throwing my body down to my knees before Him was so fast i actually knocked Master's divine body over! He gave me a headpat, i must truly be one of his most valued things!" could be construed as breaking the protocol you are all to be considered as equally worthless, although it depends heavily on tone. Any kind of scolding at all, like the classic "be good like me!", immediate punishment. Such a way of speaking should never be done by a slave, even to other things.

>>11338971
"mush" is a word that can describe a lot of slaves. They do get to be like that.

An overnighter sounds nice. Maybe something like changing something on her collar and not telling her right away. Maybe clip on a little tag or something, she might not figure out exactly what it is at first.

If you haven't given her a collar yet then perhaps her brain will never not be mush with a collaring ceremony done completely blind.

>>11338959
>nowhere close to what that woman described in the first part of the article
DESU I didn't mean to reference the stalker, or the author's situation, only the idea of selective agency and how it applies to submissives.

>Doing something in the name of someone else isn't quite the same as what the article is going for
I think it's an example of selective agency she didn't bring up. You would think that taking care of myself for my own well being should be enough, but "having an eating disorder sucks" is not nearly as strong a motivator as the opportunity to please mistress. Couldn't tell you why agency is selective in that way.

The main point that I was trying to make though is that the change from putting my agency into a completely new set of previously neglected things (cooking, cleaning, therapy, etc) was a huge one. These were things that I previously found it difficult to focus on, or I was taking the wrong approach to because I wasn't "Actually Trying".

>mandatory multi-hour self reflection time every night
I imagine that would change things. I fall asleep instantly and I don't ordinarily spend a lot of time reflecting like that.

>for myself I find that slavery fulfills a similar hole in my soul
Mistress is very nurturing. I think that's a hard requirement. She had to get a bunch of things in Her life in order before She took me in. Sort of like what people do before they have a baby.

It ends up being a huge time investment. Describing how you want something done often takes longer than doing it yourself. During the first month I don't think I actually saved Her much time, if any. But as I got better and She was able to slowly add more responsibilities that improved.

>all the pain from a relationship like that being over
We still talk every day. Planning on doing it again sometime. We live apart and have separate lives in our respective cities. I care a lot about programming and can't give it up. But I know that I could be Hers. That means a lot

>>11337294
Imagine that magical girls have limited magic. It can be replenished with orgasms but with every orgasm the girl required more and more exp but her magic becomes more powerful. Eventually her master isn't enough, so they aren't treated special as they get more powerful, they just get dehumanized and plowed through by more and more men and magical creatures to produce effects for master until she is nothing but a mindless cock sleeve used as a WMD.

>>11339354
Still hard to believe that anime got made.

>>11339354
Any chance a master could use a mechanical contraction to produce the effects or it needs coupling with a biological being? Otherwise I can see rooms with no sunlight and sensorial deprivation glass and metal, where hundreds of girls are kept in a state or perpetual climax using mechanical dildos, vibrators and suction cups all just to produce the most powerful mindless machines.
They would receive a cocktail of stimulants and hallucinogens to keep them awake but unable to break free and of course pumped full of dangerously addictive aphrodisiacs to keep them in a state of perpetual arousal and obedience to master.

>>11339297
>I imagine that would change things.
Yeah it kind of does change it entirely into a question of doing something, not how. You've spent hours every day on the how. Fun.

But yeah, I think I understand. Mistress was the motivating factor to actually trying at those things. Providing consequences for if you don't. "nurturing" too also describes how I feel about slaves. If nurturing also involved whips and chains, although slaves deeply understand how that is actually better for them. I'm not surprised you weren't actually that useful in the first month service wise either. The time investment and just that part of my soul that wants to invest that much into someone would have made up for it, but actual tangible gains from domestic service might take a little while to fully realize.

I am so glad to hear you didn't leave under bad circumstances. So, so many slaves are just completely messed up from the first time they placed their absolute devotion and worship into someone and it turns out most people aren't into being the entire reason someone else is alive. Good girl, sending you imaginary headpats through the internet.

>>11339354
>Be a Mage
>Be a Master
>Have my personal slave, she's cute. Gives me additional magickal energy.
>Alongside a lot of other fun things
>Get in a wizard battle with the dude who has >>11339403
>I call it the "suffering battery"
>Decisive defeat
>My girl is added to the suffering battery

If magic works that way going to be really hard to compete with the suffering battery if im being honest.

>>11339410
>If magic works that way going to be really hard to compete with the suffering battery if im being honest.
I think that'd be deserved for government based magical enforcers. I think most entrepreneurs and citizens wouldn't be able to afford it.
It also depends on the setting, if its a fantasy setting I don't see it as common as there may be those pesky "human rights" to think about or maybe overuse drains the girl and she needs her mind and wits to be able to cast, so you end up with a drooling cumming lump of flesh and bone no better than a mindbroken normalfag slave.
I just enjoy dystopian cyberpunk style settings, since I'm sick of D&D settings so if a tyrannical government discovers mahou shoujo, they totally would use them that way

>>11339442
Well the thing about human rights is that they only apply to humans. What do you think slaves are?

Probably would be something that would be done on a institutional level, yeah. At the very least a full on room full of suffering batteries, its a question of scale at that point.

I still love the idea of being in some fantasy world like that and having a personal slave that gives even more service than what she usually would. Makes being bound to someone even more literal.

>Kind of tired, going to take a nap
>Tell my slave that she is just to stay on the piece of cardboard next to my bed she sleeps on
>"yes Master"
>She kneels down in a exact way to just poke her eyes above my bed
>Any higher would be disrespectful but she must watch over Master
>She does not break from this the entire time
>Make sure to take a selfie with her and write "yandere eyes" on her forehead when I wake up

Fun times. Make sure to enslave any stray cat girls you catch rooting around in your trash.

>>11339354
>>11339403
>>11339442
I do the opposite.

>be Mage
>shop around for ideal magical girl slave
>select for demeanor, appearance, disposition, but especially passive magic regeneration
>train her into complete and total unconditional submission over years
>clone her repeatedly with magic so the new girls are born with training intact
>seeds planted, let them grow
>they generate magic passively which can be milked harmlessly for years or bulk harvested fatally
>libido and magic manipulation is two-way, as a backdoor into their life energy
>some serve sexually for life, others are locked in chastity and edged for years to build up a big payoff
>ranch magical girls like livestock that can also do housework
>get 'high' on my own supply regularly, so to speak

If it became possible to eugenically breed magical girls and only a tiny percentage had the chance to become one, how do you think fitness of parents would be selected? How would this impact demand on the slave market?
What would the parents think and react like to the possibility of their little girl having magical girl potential?

Mahou shoujo are for hard rape! and slavery!

>>11328889
I remember seeing a video with that sort of premise a while back. I think it was that one Gord guy or something.

The girl had been kidnapped and her buyer liked girls compressed into incredibly tight containers, for easy storage and use. The kidnapper tormented her for a while and then, right before beginning the process of training her to contort into such a tiny space, rolled out a girl he'd already prepared.

He made sure she got a nice long look at what her fate was going to be. Really brought her in close, so there was no denying it. This was not only possible, but it was inevitable. And it was in store for her. Permanently. She got to stew on that constantly as they prepared her to the same specifications. It was probably all she thought about as they forced her into ever tighter spaces in preparation for her new life. And the real cherry on top was that she'd mentioned earlier, in a little throwaway line, that she was claustrophobic.

>>11340506
Was that the one where she disappeared into a hole in the floor?

I'm making an isekai story. In it there's a kingdom of beastmen that enslaves humans and treats them like mere beasts of burden, forcing them to remain naked while they are put to work. It's not even sexual, they just see humans as inferior creatures.

>>11340898
Why fantasy isekai?!? Its always the fucking same concept. Try being more creative, hell at this point ask AI for ideas to make it less generic and boring for fucks sake

>>11340506
Yeah ive seen the house of gord, sort of. Just passed by it in searches before, that kind of predicament isn't quite my thing, I just may or may not indulge slave anons in their horniness like when you were quoting me there.

I thought the show was less about plotlines and just some of the weirder torture scenes but honestly a few minutes might be too much, I don't think ive watched barely any. The dude looks like the living embodiment of the "Barry, norf FC" meme like all good people from the former danelaw so I'm sure he's depraved in a wide variety of ways.

>>11340898
Love all pictures of naked toil. You've done a lot of commissions like that, have quite a few saved away. Like the variants with full nudity instead of the specific rag setup you often get.

"its not even sexual" is right, even for a normal slave, she does all her work naked because she's just a animal. Often times it is very sexual, but at a basic level its also to separate her from people who are people. Forced nudity is dual purpose.

>>11341064
If you have a medieval setting I guess it means way more opportunities for forced hard labour.

But yeah I'm on the same sort of track. Even a similar sci fi/cyberpunk setting filled with all the tropes and not a lot of originality my brain accepts better since medieval fantasy just lends itself so well to exactly identical generic settings.

Just want to scold my slave and give her 20 lashes braced up against my starfighter because she missed a spot while cleaning it. Why must life be so hard.

>>11341120
>Just want to scold my slave and give her 20 lashes braced up against my starfighter because she missed a spot while cleaning it. Why must life be so hard.
Exactly, there are chances for the same forced labor camps in space or across dimensions. I don't know, how about a world that entered an Ice Age and now only few villages remain? And in order to survive a highly controlled government arises with Master and Servant system? Disobedient slaves get exposed to the elements and potential frostbite so they all work extremely hard to be in Master's good graces

>>11341064
Perhaps because i like that specific setting? How about you tell me of an isekai where the main character is enslaved instead?

>>11341064
/v/ is that way, child. If he wants to do fantasy, then that's his choice.

>>11341136
>Master was given another slave for free, some really skinny bitch. Looks like I could see right through her she's so pale
>also we're moving to some other planet
>me and ghostbitch have to pack up and move every single one of Master's possessions, including ourselves
>get there and its horrible
>even in the weird indoor colony area it's hard to toil naked cleaning and upkeeping all these machines that apparently make life here possible
>Master forced me to watch Him scold ghostbitch a few days after getting there
>threatened to "throw her outside for a few minutes" and she screamed with horror
>yeah seems pretty bad
>honestly is this her first time being a slave? >Master is just mad that you didn't clean His oxygen scrubber correctly
>even if it wasn't empty it probably isn't that bad
>probably...
>id do anything for just a little bit of rags to help stay warm...

Yeah there's a lot more you can do with a lot of that sci fi stuff. I think I dislike generic fantasy because its tough to break the mold even if there's nothing that says you can't have stuff like that in a medieval world. Its magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.

Ive seen so few stories of the kind of social dynamics where automation is mostly complete, but its just for jobs that cannot be done by nude slaves most of the time. So they mostly maintain those machines while doing every single type of job that can. Really reinforces slavery as a relationship type in our own world where I would even want that domestic toil to be done to further bind a slave to someone's soul, even if it could be automated. Might be why I told that story from the perspective of the slave, plus you can gloss over the wider worldbuilding stuff by slaves just not being told much.

Master wants you to clean the icebox prison colony with a toothbrush every day because he loves you and cares about you being happy that your life is all about Him.