Thread 11402963

Classic World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
>2) What's the main supply of slaves?
>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?

Questions for Masters/Mistresses:
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?
>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?
>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?
>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?

Questions for slaves:
>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?
>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?
>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.
>4) What training will you be put through?

Questions for Switches:
>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?
>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?

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Talk, Bark or Meow?

>>11402972
whimper

>>11402995
That looks fun, as long as I'm the one crawling and acting like a dumb animal.

>>11402972
slaves do not get to speak without permission. In the absence of that, whimpering is best. Assuming that a slave doesn't actually have anything she needs to say and just wants to make upset overwhelmed noises about just how her life makes her feel.

>>11403003
"acting"

Nobody has ever once seen you as a human being with complex inner thoughts, slave. On all fours is where you belong.

>>11402967
>slave being left at a butcher shop, frantically begging and bargaining to her master for mercy, crying that she doesn't want to die
Oof.
Would you show her pity? I know I would.

>>11403334
Yes. Honestly probably to a fault, that tugs at the heart strings.

Hopefully I can take her off her Master's hands for extremely cheap. Even if Ive already taken pity on 10 girls exactly as useless as her I'm sure my heart can't take that thing showing just how powerless she truly is. There has to be something she can be taught to earn her daily gruel, even if its just being really good at begging.

>>11402963 (OP)
Why bother with the politcorrect hypocrisy of "masters/mistress" when 100% of the "slaves" posted here are female ?

>2) Would your Master...
I'd have no master, I'm not gay.

>>11402971
God I love Takagi art. I wish there was a ton more than there is.

>>11403372
>100% of the "slaves" posted here are female
>I'd have no master, I'm not gay.
Mhm,,,,

>>11403493
Anon wrote posteED, not postING

All right, sign it up, sluts.

>>11403691
a pony cant read or write

>>11403787
Yeah most slaves imprisoned here wish they weren't ever actually taught how to read. Or are actually somehow dumb enough to forget.

Signing a contract would be helpful to assuage a lot of their fears IRL, but that would also be wizard fighting inside of them with the idea that putting any conditions on Master's rule over them somehow means that He doesn't actually want to control them, and then the fear of being abandoned or rejected sets in.

Not a lot of ways to win with slaves. They aren't people for a reason. Personally I believe in reading for my slave, then just dictating to her what it said. she doesn't actually need to know that much, and she'll just get confused if she has room to interpret the meaning of things for herself. Master's always looking out for her, it's for her own good.

>>11403821
ive never been a slave but
>the idea that putting any conditions on Master's rule over them
id hope that there would be some discussion over the conditions of my new life.

>>11403931
A bunch of the slaves around here tend to yandere up their minds into thinking "Master is my life, if i just surrender completely to Master i will finally be happy". In the final form of that is a girl even being scared to disagree with Master on anything, which is not the best since actually getting them to communicate is rough to begin with.

But hey, you know what you're in for being into slaves like that. The slave contract would be good if only to calm that part of her that'd just want to instantly delete all sense of self the moment she gets to kneel before who she worships. I can't accept the surrender of all limits if the contract says that she can't do that for at least 3 months.

>Own a slave. Upset with her for whatever reason
>she already paid for it dearly, but the time has come for her weekly supervised masturbation
>she had to have known something was waiting for her
>Kneeling on the floor, staring up in my eyes waiting for permission to touch herself
>3 hours of corner time first? yes Master...
>And again, 3 hours later, same spot, same staring
>"Hah. No. Beg for it."
>It starts off like usual, enthusiastic and pathetic
>Then gets desperate once she realizes I am not acquiescing
>A full hour passes, and she screams as I tell her she's spending the night in The Hole instead
>Screams a lot being dragged outside and shoved in there, way more than usual
>Morning comes, I don't think she's touched herself, but watching all the footage back would take a while and I didn't restrain her for a reason
>Knew exactly what to do when I dragged her up, although she should perhaps have asked permission to slobber all over my boots first
>It's fine though, can rub up against my boots until it comes out, then even lick it up to show how grateful she is!
>I simply cannot describe the noise she made when her single orgasm leaked out
>It's like her entire lifetime of brutal servitude crashing through her mind in 1 second
>Must have echoed throughout the entire neighbourhood
>Next time I will make sure anything she does in The Hole is recorded in something a lot better than surveillance camera footage
>Add another "unforgettable indignity" to the list. she'll surely remember it forever. What a good girl.

>>11403821
Elaina would make such a good slave. And by that I mean she'd hate it.

>>11404650
Aw, she looks so upset about being a slave. Poor thing!

Does she know what things get to do when they're unhappy? It's going to be a rough adjustment if she doesn't. It's either obedience or torture, at least try to put on a happy face! We're doing so much to help with decision paralysis, after all.

>>11404656
Who is that ashen-haired witch being dragged to the action block as we speak, the power and freedom she so valued stolen away forever, her beauty and body now only existing for her master's amusement? That's right, it's Elaina!

Oh, right, I've got the perfect posts for this. Thanks, /a/.

>>11404673
Wow, such a seether! I know its tough to try and smile in that thing but you should at least try to look like you're happy. If you look miserable on the auction block you might attract people who don't want to force a smile on your face.

>>11404689
Lynposting is over. Elainaposting is now.

"thin stick of a girl" is what fits for slaves, I'm not surprised. Being physically weak compared to pretty much everything else compares well to the weakness inherent in being a slave. Not a lot any slave can do if Master just decides they're being renamed to "thinstick", for example. Even if they're completely stacked they live life on their knees for a reason.

>>11404701
It's fine. She's cuter like this.
>Lynposting is over. Elainaposting is now.
I ran out of Lyns, ran out of creative juice and ideas for the seething swordswoman stuff, and straight roleplaying took over the thread again. Would appreciate more Lynposting, but it can't be helped.

>>11403821
I think in fallout nv there was a character that was modified to be unable to read, write or speak? That would be an extreme punishment, only for those who tried to run away or communicate without permission. Though it's hot to imagine being unable to read a work contract, signing with just an x (dunno how to write my name), then being told its actually a slave conract.
NV also had that scene where a captured centurion told a female officer how she'll look better with his slave collar tightly around her neck, or something like that. Very hot.

>>11402972
I've gotten mine to meow so often that she's accidently done it in pubic.

>>11405037
¨¨¨¨accidentally¨¨¨¨

>>11404955
That was in one of the DLCs I never liked that much, but yeah I think the auto-doc is basically magic and do basically any operation, including messing you up that way.

I was talking about property with a terminal case of yandere, afraid to even be interrogated for what's inside their head, extracting thoughts and concerns different from "i think whatever Master orders me to think, Master." is tough for such girls but taking away speech as a punishment could still be fun. After a particularly dark secret was extracted from her, not being able to speak, read, or write for 2 weeks is fitting. If she's ever caught even looking at sign, the only noises she is permitted to make is screams of pain.

>captured centurion
Hah. Yeah dude was saying the edgiest shit imaginable to the bitchiest MP on the base, and in response she was treating him with the exact same dismissal I would give to a slave that is screaming about how she's going to kill me and she'll never be broken.

The description of binding slave collars around fresh captures as tightly as possible, so that even turning their head or trying to breathe they feel choked by that, a reminder of who they belong to, of course that's BDSM fetish fuel. It's the exact same justification for denying all comfort and humanity to any servile creature. If the gap between it and who it serves is overwhelming and inescapable, they will become docile, if not loyal.

>>11405037
Yeah I don't think it's a accident.

You teach those things to act cute and happy all the time and then they see birds out during walkies and its suddenly "please let me chase after the birds, Master~! nyan-nyan~"

Cats often make what I term a "activation noise" so having a slave do that alongside a curtsy when you enter the room is great fun.

i'm back, the slave serial number / paperwork anon
working on a identification and provenance documentation (deeds/titles, that sort) system.
there's a open question though, and that's whether to opt for electronic documents (using a database, website or specialized program) or break out groff and start typesetting forms intended to be printed out.
with all the censorship that's going on, I'm more inclined to spend time working on things that can work without the Internet, without neccesarily excluding electronic systems, because I can make digital files that perform the same functions as paper documents and write a program to do the bruntwork of finding the latest information about a slave, and automatically filling out paperwork.
electronic systems however require computers and if the world's going to go extreme levels of shit, then every computer might end up utterly bugged to the point of taking screen recordings, and paper documentation is both completely offline and has a nice look n' feel that turns some people on too.

anons, do I embrace the electronic future of 2000's technology, or begin the 1950 cold war era paperwork?

>>11405106
Even putting aside the concerns around a dystopian surveillance state, which are absolutely real don't get me wrong, there for sure is a path in our current dystopia to throwing you in prison for anti-social horniness this way, even just having the paperwork exist as scans for all these forms with the bureaucracy behind it intended to make sense even if it isn't real is a far better choice for this sort of thing. As much as I would love to put a scanner up to my slaves ass and have all her info come up on it, I think building out a system like that in any meaningful way would be tough, but you also clearly have put thought into this and I might be having another future shock moment of how feasible this actually is compared to a decade ago.

Also just for being horny with your personal slave the physical paperwork is immensely useful. Having her kneel in your office while you sit at the desk and shuffle through stacks of the stuff. Sure even if it's a real world consensual slavery relationship it sure as shit feels emotionally authentic to her that complete power over her life rests with Master, and a stroke of a pen could change her fate forever. All these soft sheets with strange markings on them, the world that free people live in so much bigger than she could ever imagine.

I also think having some sort of standardized form for a slave contract going over every single thing a slave could be afraid of and not want to surrender control over would certainly make yandere interrogation easier. Add another cold war parallel, even if the CIA was complete garbage at anything more than just unfocused cruelty. Dipshits never successfully brainwashed anyone.

>>11403787
I'd imagine we would at least have to learn to read street signs, address numbers, etc. Especially if we have to pull cargo around by our lonesome.

>>11405225
A good horse will take his owner back to the house even if the owner is unconsious. You have instincts for it. Sure, you can know basic signs, but in the end, you are a vehicle, and it's the driver's responsibility to obey traffic laws.

>>11403787
>>11405225
This is just the right face for ponies to have. Miserable, defiance present, but buried under the exertion and humiliation as they pull their load and their naked breasts wave around.

>>11405225
And then her only reward for good behavior is getting fucked harder.

>>11405225
Yeah no. Sure I force my personal slave to draw my rickshaw all the time, she is technically capable of reading, but she's also just a beast of burden, there's no real reason for her to do something like that.

Do you know how much trouble you things can get into on your "lonesome"? There's a reason even personal slaves aren't let out without a overseer, to say nothing of those beasts that are just beasts, never anything else. If you're allowed to read street signs then what's next? Having more than the most simple thoughts possible? Dare I say, having to make choices? Everyone knows what happens when you let slaves do that.

>>11405299
I appreciate mage girls being forced to do manual labor without their magic. As much as she hates doing this, it's made even worse by being forced to do it the hard way. It must be so frustrating.

>>11405306
Makes it even better enslaving one as a mage myself.

Maybe, just maybe, if she's completely obedient and loyal, of flawless service, even gets upset when the other slaves aren't as devoted to servitude as her, -then- she can be permitted some extremely minor magical assistance.

For heavy loads like the rickshaw she could make herself 10% stronger. Not any more than that, there will be hell waiting for her if she is even accidentally off. And for cleaning Master's home I think being able to puppeteer a little toothbrush is acceptable. Can be mopping my floors in one room while the toothbrush is cleaning out my bathroom. Anything more than that is just spoiling her.

Of course, being gifted just the tiniest amount of magic after so long of having to do such hard labour would be especially soul crushing, even so with such a thin girl. That's what being a slave is though, misery is her constant companion.

Meaty eye candy slaves take a lot of time, money and resources to perfect.

>>11405177
>I think building out a system like that in any meaningful way would be tough
i mean? it's a bit of work, especially compared to just typesetting a couple of PDFs, but it shouldn't be impossible.
I made this /very very rough/ outline of one of the views I want in the program, the sort of information to be tracked. The skin tone is the Monk Skin Tone Scale. Units are metric (cm and kg.) Call numbers are arbitrary numbers that the owner assigns to each slave to call them out from a crowd. The UUID lasts their entire life though. Think of it like the VIN and the call number as the license plate.
Sex and Gender separated because some tgirls have cocks.

>>11405345
I always love the slave ID sheets
Best thing to have when the slave is up for sale for basic info on the merchandise.

>>11405345
I was thinking more the online database but then its literally just webhosting. Shouldn't be too hard.

Call numbers are fun too. I can already imagine looking at this sheet of paper, and then over to the same thing kneeling before me. Likely looking a lot more terrified. Might even end up taking pity on poor 935.

>>11405335
Compared to my thinsticks you do indeed have to feed them actual human food. Like the kind they make their betters, it's a bit weird.

Any way a slave is treated by who owns it is by definition morally correct, but I always tortured the fat out of mine. Maybe if they had some sort of play date with another Master who has girls who look just like they did when they were free it'd cause problems, but nothing a bit of discipline can't fix. They might be mean and try to bully her but that is for me to do alone, my slaves are perfectly polite and respectful even to other slaves, in a appropriate way. There are consequences when they are not.

>>11405106
I think one of the big advantages to a paper-only system is the bureaucracy could add an additional nightmare.
Imagine a slave being kept in detention for weeks on end because the relevant paperwork was "lost". Who knows where it went? And if she somehow "earns" her freedom, she can't just click an online form - she has to print out a form, fill it out, and snail mail it and hope it reaches its recipient.
I can tell you from personal experience how much it sucks to deal with physical record keeping systems.

>>11405345
>Sex and Gender separated because some tgirls have cocks.
Just have a genitals field. Sex/gender are for people.

>>11405225
I think it would be hotter (and reasonably practical) to be forced to rely on our spatial memories rather than reading.
I don't think ponygirls should be pulling on our own initiative anyway. We're burdened with cargo too heavy to think, and our restraints mean that we can't do much other than obey simple orders.

>>11405388
I agree. It's certainly fun, and imo it's a lot easier to make a good for-print form than it is to sit down and make some special computer software for the same form. I could still go for something like LibreOffice Base (or it's evil dad MS Office Access; does that even exist anymore with 365?)
With paper forms, I'm really good with groff (specifically -mom) but the one glaring flaw of mom is she can't produce those fancy fillable PDF forms. You need Acrobat or crappy wizards in ONLYOFFICE or LibreOffice which are significantly more annoying to use as a typesetter because it feels like using a chainsaw to carve marble.
>Just have a genitals field.
true

>>11405380
>online database
Very likely will just get yoinked off whatever host I use, and I'm going on the assumption that things will be much worse in the future.

>>11405380
>I always tortured the fat out of mine
Now I just imagined my pampered, sheltered dummie of a slave meeting yours in some house party we go to, and confusion and hilarity ensues.
>Whuh? Why are you so thin? You really should eat more, that's not healthy at all, sis. My Master has ordered me to eat something immediately whenever I get hungry, and he's never wrong! W-what do you mean ¨you can't eat¨?
I just love that contrast. Something about oblivious slaves suddenly realizing just how lucky they are gets me going.

>>11405879
Gets to fill up her feeding bowl with gruel twice a day. Plus handfed scraps of the human food she cooks me. Honestly one of the harsher ways I treat her, but atleast she gets to fill up that same bowl with tap water whenever she wants.

her new little friend just broke a lot of iron clad slave etiquette rules too. Walking right up to her and speaking to her, like what? slaves don't even speak to eachother unless it is absolutely necessary, and out here, in front of our betters? Didn't even kneel and ask permission, alongside like a thousand other things? I might be worried about mine bullying such a pampered thing but lets be real, I heavily select for anxiety, my poor creature is just going to stammer and she'd be lucky if it's as comprehensible as "i am not permitted to eat whenever i want"

It sounds just adorable, her and her new friend are going to get playdates all the time. Very entertaining. Does that little idiot of yours even know how harsh punishment often is for her friends? I can imagine a world where mine has to immediately take 20 lashes for substandard cocksucking, and her friend is just confused why she's in so much pain for something so minor.

>>11405919
>Does that little idiot of yours even know how harsh punishment often is for her friends?
Noononono, I don't want to stress her naive little head with something like that, otherwise she might think that she could get punished violently over something small one day as well. I'm sure they get along just fine with enough time, slaves deserve to have friends as well to share their little training tricks with.
I've little interest to go through that confused crying fit of hers again, when some trashy untrained slave slut called my slave a pig when she was just happily buying groceries with me.

>>11405930
Got it, won't be so cruel to mine during their little play dates, mine got called "pig" all the time when she was in training, but not by me.

Most people are mean to her, she's a slave, but it's when those other slaves call her those things that I make sure to protect her. God it's so disrespectful, like can you see her? She's clearly not making any choices anymore, her body is my choice, she has no control over it.

It is legal to manhandle public work crew slaves, which tend to be who sense weakness and try to bully those softer girls, I like to grab one by it's hair and drag it over to it's overseer whenever they do that. Make sure they know. It happens way more when a slave is obviously nervous and weak honestly.

>>11405460
I decided to go for the for-paper route, because it was significantly easier to get started and get good results. I'm pleasantly surprised how easy it was to add PDF fields to separately typeset documents from groff using onlyoffice. Modern freaky magic.
I managed to typeset a form this afternoon (see pic), it's got those PDF form fields that you can fill in using Acrobat. I'll work on a bunch and release them (i guess this an anchor for ideas for slave paperwork for now)

>inb4 >born free with rights
some slaves used to be free you know :) after this is registered, the UUID is used instead of their name in all other forms.

>>11405968
How much of the slaves details do you plan to have a field for?

>>11405942
Yeah, a hard slap silenced that whore right down. Sometimes my slave is just too naive and bright eyed for her own good, she'd want to socialize with all the other slaves she comes across, almost like a dog. If I leave her unguarded like that even for 15 minutes something like that is just bound to happen sooner or later. It's not her fault that she wants to show her happiness and kindness to others. Guess I'm the one to blame for that huh. Eh, I can live with it.
I bet your slave would get real confused whenever they get to hang out together at my house and if she gets to experience some of the luxurious (for a slave) things that are a given for my pampered housepet of a slave. Here's hoping they cherish those rare moments.

>>11405320
Well, see, the issue here is that Elaina would be absolutely awful at manual labor, and any physical work of any kind, really. Not because she's comically weak or something, but because of the necessity of restraining her hands. Witches in this setting can summon or spawn their wand from anywhere by just grasping the air. Move your fingers as if to hold a wand and poof, there it is. That means to keep her from burning you alive, you need to restrain her hands, or more particularly her fingers. That's what these adorable little finger cuffs in >>11404650 and >>11404742 are for. And while it is really cute and satisfying to watch her uselessly flap her useless hands, it also means that any sort of work that she needs her hands free for is out of the question.

This is the sort of slave you get for fun. Sex, bullying, torture, that sort of thing. Maybe that fun entails making her struggle and fail at more typical slave work, but just don't expect her to actually get anything done.

>>11406111
the fucking ARTIST uploaded a thumbnail what the fuck how is that possible how do you

>>11406050
Alot. The initial forms will deal with practical identification, ownership information, transfers and the supporting paperwork. See >>11405345 for the sort of information this entails.
After I get those done, probably will move on to more niche paperwork like calendars that track orgasms, short-term loans, stickers/tags.
Maybe a weekly chore tracker. Basically anything I end up needing with my own slaves.

>>11406111
Oh is that how she works? Man that's a shame, such a cute slave and she would need to be heavily restrained in order to not kill me. Shame. Maybe she could be some piece of eyecandy that follows me around, but I prefer extremely personal multi purpose slaves, so she's probably just getting turned into whatever form of mana battery she can feasibly be, if not disposed of.

>>11406103
Most of the time mine just gets confused and upset when treated with humanity, honestly. She's meant to be comfort, why is she suddenly being given comfort? Does Master not want her service anymore? Realizing that her job visiting her new slave sister is just to provide entertainment by all the weird ways her friend is worlds apart from her would help calm her down. Even then slaves still have some crumbs of humanity deep inside of them, and they still cherish feeling occasional comfort. If your slave is allowed something a bit like a bed then even resting in it for 20 minutes and remembering the softness helps contrast with when she's serving as Master's bedwarmer or napping on His floor.

>>11406184
Well, there's still stuff slaves can do without their hands. The pony stuff mentioned earlier, those hands-free waitress setups, and...uh...that's kind of it, really. I guess there's human furniture stuff, but that's weird.
>mana battery
Sure, that works. Exploit that magical talent she's so proud of.
It's probably the most productive thing you can do with wizard slaves without some convenient hentai magic, really. They're just way too dangerous to leave to their own devices otherwise.

Personally I'd just keep her around for fun, though.
Every night, unless her owner's got something else going on, Elaina's given a choice; sleep, or a chance at freedom. That chance entails being thoroughly bound and finger-cuffed, like so, and left in a room containing her wand in some out-of-reach place. She's also vibed up; settings vary, but regardless it will run all night.
And struggle she does. Her wand's right there, hanging right in front of her! If she can just get it in her hands, she'll be able to free herself and end this nightmare!
But of course it's impossible. Her wand's never left anywhere she can reach in this state. Hanging from the ceiling, up on a shelf, in some unbreakable glass case, so close but so far, often in a spot that'd be simple to reach if only she wasn't restrained like this.
The vibrator is two-fold. First, obviously, is just to torture her, forcing her to cum over and over again or to edge her all night. Second is to keep her from passing out. She chose to struggle, not to sleep, and there's no take-backs.

The best part is watching her agonizing over her choice at the end of every day. After a long, exhausting, miserable day of slavery, she's asked if she wants to try to escape or rest up for tomorrow's torments. Sometimes give her a sneak peak of what's in store for her as a nudge towards the former. Elaina's not stupid, she knows this isn't fair, and she's so tired, but...if she can just outsmart him...there has to be a way...!

Halloween is almost here
do your slaves get tricks?
or do your slaves get treats?

>>11406523
Absolutely devious. Most slaves live very hard lives, having their regular duties be made worse by sleep deprivation would make it even harder, but then she's not having regular duties, is she?

Primarily used for sex and torture, y'know,"entertainment" it seems like. The line isn't that defined either. Having the only choices a slave ever makes be just obviously a monkey's paw suits them so well, but for a poor wizard captive in the back of her mind there's always the fact that she's too dangerous to even be subjugated in a normal way, and so she is special in the worse way possible.

>>11406539
It's hard not to at least handfeed them some candy, come on now. They always act so juvenile too, it suits them.

As for what to do for Halloween? Oh all manner of things. A costume feels weird, they don't really deserve that kind of money spent on them, but there are ways to make that day special.

Personally I like how cold it gets around this time of year, the contrast of the heavy clothes I often wear with the forced nudity of my slave is a lot of fun. Fun for me at least.

For mischief night, it's nice to take her out later in the night, with technically acceptable human clothes, over to some wooded area where she is unlikely to be seen for 10 minutes. Maybe a place she has some connection too, like we've done rituals here before, and confiscate her clothes before shoving her down in the dirt. Have her quietly recite devotional prayers, about how she is but a worthless animal given purpose by Master's light, and she is grateful to live ln His warm embrace rather than freezing without Him, capping it off with licking every speck of dirt off my boots, then thanking me for letting this piece of dirt serve in my world before forcing her back in her clothes so she can be marched back home.

A ritual like that plays upon wider spirituality a lot of slaves have and just mushes up their brain for whatever service you have planned for Halloween itself. Adorable.

>>11406539
>do your slaves get treats?
Obviously, yes. And she also begged me to buy her uh... ¨a really spooky¨ costume this year. Though she's a bit bummed since her new slave friend isn't sure if she can eat any of the halloween candies. And I even went through the effort of scattering the candies around the floor, for them to crawl around and eat.

>>11406604
Oh if its for the entertainment of better people then of course she's permitted. she's pretty dumb but even she knows that. Just make sure to give her a direct order, not "Your new friend would appreciate you crawling around with her", that is just going to confuse her, but then I just don't ever let her out of my company for any reason anyways. Even direct orders from people lead to her getting all nervous and trying to stammer out clarifications for what exactly to do if I'm not there to guide her.

Now she might do stuff like try to ask permission before every single bite out of every single candy. Maybe even thank you after she takes every bite, but go easy on her, she gets like a few pieces of this stuff handfed to her a year, and it's super rare for her to not be handfed anything that isn't gruel anyways.

>>11406621
Ah, so that's what she was mumbling about. Yeah, ok, she started crawling behind my slave now. Though by now it seems that my pet has already eaten most of the candies by herself, that bottomless...
Ahem, guess I'll just go open another bag, then.

>>11406124
Not sure whether I've lost the plot but something I think would be hot would be for slaves to have to submit paperwork to be allowed to do basic things. Like perhaps orgasms would involve an "orgasm request form" that can take weeks to months to approve.

>>11406659
Now your reaching the point of the slave has suffered a fate worse than even the most horrible of masters could dish out. She is no longer a slave who had a purpose in life to serve her master. She now works for a bureaucracy Monday-Friday 9-5. A fate so horrible & evil nothing can compare.
You have lost the plot and turned your slave into a bureaucrat

>>11406655
Poor thing is probably trying to ask permission before even looking at a piece of candy, then apologizing for not being of the perfect service you clearly deserve from her right now, and then maybe even crying a little bit while this bottomless idiot just vacuums up everything.

Adorable. Having this little bundle of anxiety stammer out "p-permission to eat your delicious candy, S-Sir" while her big dumb sister just wanders around without a care in her little world. They make great friends.

>>11406688
Look man just consign them to the mines at that point. It's a much better fate.

>>11407613
>slave forced to suck Master's cock
>still absolutely obsessed with it, to even be permitted to see it, much less service it, is a great honour

What a good girl. A thing that absolutely knows her place, and is so happy to be down on her knees.

Ha, some trick or treatin kids came and rang my doorbell earlier today, I wonder what their reaction would've been if my pet slave crawled to open the door for them, while still munching on her latest batch of candy.

>>11407810
Hah. Yeah I don't allow my slave to open the door for precisely that reason. Even if we're expecting guests that she needs to attend to, she stands off to the side with her head bowed until her service is needed.

If you let her open the front door it's just asking for her to freak out all the time. Screaming "aah! i'm sorry Sir!" in the face of delivery people before literally running away. Yours sounds like she's too dumb to even realize she's doing anything wrong though.

>slave was of great service during the halloween party, absolutely humiliating, just as she deserves
>settling in for bed, instead I grab the piece of cardboard she sleeps on, and order her to follow me to a utility closet I prepared earlier
>single lightbulb hanging from the ceiling, cold bare floor, a portrait of Master high on the wall
>"you should be grateful I'm letting you have this cardboard at all"
>there will be no rest, not for her
>kneel down and stare directly into Master's eyes
>edge the entire time, quietly whispering the mantra "i am nothing, i am dirt, but with Master i am given purpose in His service, forever."
>when you fail and a orgasm comes, only quietly and shamefully moan, then return to the mantra
>keep a mental count of each orgasm, a lot more than your soul will know if you're wrong and try to lie
>Master will be up early so that he can collect you after 6 hours, but until then sweet dreams!
>slave hears the door lock behind her
>Master hears her quietly beginning her "worship to exhaustion" ritual
>the first of possibly many

>>11403334
The butcher shop is a good ending for a slave girl, in my opinion

>>11406539
Is there actually a character that's just a head in Frieren or what?

>>11408103
>>11408064
Wow machine translation is really good these days, huh. I'm sure I got most of that, although some of that stuff is probably more Japanese culture specific, but "I don't want to die yet" sure...Is a big a reason why I think its mostly slaves who want to be eaten.

Just makes me feel even more pity for them honestly. Solidly in "don't tell people who are actually people about this depraved stuff in your head" territory. There was a slave around here a while back who talked about how providing nourishment to those she worshipped as a final act capping off her worthless life would be a truly divine way to finally be useful for something. All of this guilt about how useless she is, how she is not in any way a acceptable slave, just makes me want to embrace them even more and tell them it'll be okay, I'll rule over their life forever from now on.

Still not going to eat them, no matter how worthless they actually are they're still more valuable to me as a technically alive piece of meat than merely as food. Not that I ever really expect self-broken slaves to truly believe that.

>>11405380
>>11405919
>but I always tortured the fat out of mine.
This is how it should be. The master big and fat, the slave tiny and emaciated.

>>11408433
I would prefer to be the extremely attractive God that it makes sense for slaves to worship, but yes, human beings can make choices and end up with bodies of their own making, slaves just do as they're told, and have extreme consequences for not following the slave diet.

Food for people is often something they enjoy, food for slaves is just fuel to keep them going. The delicious meals a slave cooks for her betters is just not in any way comparable to the gruel portions she cooks for herself.

>>11405345
Good, I would add a field for estimated market value, even just posters adding a guess of value for the various thread slaves would be hot, like you could probably get at least $2,000 out of >>11403003 maybe even up to 5k

I want a dom/slave relationship but im scared to get old and be abandoned so i guess its just gonna stay a fantasy.

>>11408433
Why as a housepet connoisseur I highly disagree. I want my clueless slave to be well fed, soft and happy. She's one of the few lucky ones who can live in safety, warmth and excess, and she never has to worry about the troubles of the outside world, that's her Master's job.
Even if her appearance and carefree attitude tend to confuse most of the other slaves she meets as a result.

>>11409191
All hail the return of public psycho drama posting, but if someone's been spending almost two years now attempting to worm his way into your mind to force you to surrender in a way that doesn't end up with you possibly executing yourself in a mental breakdown, then it's probably a good bet that he wants to rule over your servile body forever. At least until the end of your natural lifespan, possibly more.

Was that your car that was parked outside my bedroom window for the past 2~ weeks? All this talk about halloween and it disappeared that day, I was quite hopeful, and yet nothing. Last night, the shadow of the clocks moving back for the 2nd of november at 2 is numerologically significant, now I don't know shit about phones or cybersecurity but I swear my attempts to figure out suspicious shit on there spiked in what would have been the shadow of 2:20 last night. If you've actually managed to hack into my devices or more I'm honestly impressed, and that's a even stronger argument of imprisoning you beneath me permanently. Can't ever let you out of quarantine, far too yandere to live after that, permanent servitude for life is the only option.

Maybe its actual crimes you've done that you're scared of being rejected for, that's the best I got. Ending up in prison just not the one you deserve. Not sure how many ways I can say that the only thing I'm really scared of you doing is a direct confrontation ending with you running off and immediately killing yourself. Sunday is a good day for Master worship too, and if your birthday is also the 2nd it feels right to enslave you on that same day in my birth month.

>>11408306
Are you kidding? That's dogshit. "It's hot. Let's play the song at the butcher shop."
No, getting the gist of things is not enough to call a translation good. Fucking google translate can manage that, is google translate "really good?"

>>11408103
I can appreciate the "I haven't even done anything yet!" bit, at least. Very cute. As if she'd be able to do anything with her life even if it doesn't end today.

>>11408440
Love this one. Her expression is so good, that quiet, passive disgust. She's not freaking out, but she still thinks you're the worst.
That's not a good move, Frieren. When you put on a poker face as a slave, your master takes that as a challenge to break it, and that's not a hard thing to do. You're just setting yourself up for failure.

>>11409309
Hey man I remember when machine translation would just be completely incomprehensible ontop of for sure not being able to figure out what the fuck it's actually looking at computer vision wise and telling you these characters actually are just pictures of cats.

Manage your expectations. Not gonna ever have high standards for a clanker. They've already won if I expect them to do well.

>poker face
Yeah it's a good one, isn't it? Little elf thing has been around for a while, she's for sure going to outsmart her Master this time. For sure! It's not like that's just going to be a further education in how slaves are completely powerless, for sure this time!

>>11409309
I see it more as her at the slave market. A recent capture, either on sale now or soon to be moved to the block. She's maintaining her composure quite well given the circumstances, but I doubt it's sunk in yet that her nightmare's only getting started.
Also the little magic padlock. Incredibly powerful elven wizard with an entire encyoclypedia of spells in her head, but then they get this collar around her neck and boop, helpless. 10,000 years of magical training and power negated by a funny rock.

>>11409325
That's my primary interpretation of it too. Looks like she's looking up at the man who she is just about to start a human lifetime in service to. Could be a recent capture, could not, either way this specific chapter of her eternity of servitude is just getting started. Elves are valuable as slaves since their toil is truly endless.

>>11409340
I think part of the reason she's able to pull this off at all is she assumes she'll only have to put up with this for a human lifetime. 50 years of this? Alright, she can take that. She might not really understand what exactly she's going to be put through, but time-wise she's not worried.
The poor, naive fool. When do we tell her?

>>11409359
50 years of hard toil, living life on her knees, often literally, but she finally did outlast that awful man. Master died a bit short of his 82nd birthday, and now she can move on.

"move on". Wait why aren't her manacles being unlocked at his funeral? What do you mean "inheritance"? she's supposed to have freedom now, not-oh no.

The last choice she ever made was not fighting hard enough to get out of the slavers grasp. Poor thing. At least her sobbing and just ugly crying at the funeral made the on the spot slave auction a lot more exciting!

>>11409367
See, I'd got the slave crest route.
The ever-impassive elven slave stands at her the side of her master's deathbed, watching him die with slightly-concealed satisfaction. As they share some parting words, her future comes up.
And it's only then that he reveals the complete nature of the crest he carved into her all those years ago. When he passes away, it's most important function will activate; she'll lose control of her body and march right over to the nearest slave market to present herself as merchandise. Control over the various other effects the tattoo has will then transfer to her new owner, and when he inevitably dies as well, then it's right back to the slave market once more.
Some slightly-less-concealed concern as the words wash over her. Some bargaining and denial as she turns this revelation over in her head. Humans aren't capable of magic of that caliber, but how many times has she commented in disgust at the lengths humans will go to torment elves? And as her poker face finally starts to crack and her master feels death approaching, he gives her one last bit of hope.

The crest can be removed, of course. No magic is perfect. While dispelling it as effectively impossible, it can be easily removed by the one who applied it.
And no one else. That part doesn't transfer. And while the former mage hasn't cast a spell of her own will in decades, she knows very well that that's true.

Those his last words.
As his eyes slowly close, the last sight he sees is the color slowly draining from his elven slave's face.
As his awareness fades, the last sound he ever hears is the start of a stammered plea for him not to die.
And as he passes from this world and his elf finally, finally begins to panic and the crest on her abdomen begins to softly glow, a smile appears on his lips.

Man, I gotta start proofreading this shit before I post.

>>11409395
Oh these things are always better at magery than us. It comes with having so much time, to pull that over her as a parting act that will hang over her life of eternal servitude is just delicious.

No matter how hard she fights, she is a slave now, and she will always be beneath us. her destiny is to grovel in the dirt at the feet of real people, who she is merely a extension of. Every single part of her existence is not her own, it is a choice by who she belongs to for their own benefit.

A thousand years of freedom, maybe something special can happen to her when she reaches a thousand years of slavery. The sky is the limit when it comes to magic honestly. A mortal slave of mine I gave just enough energy and nourishment to allow her to scream herself hoarse for a full week, trying to find all the ways it is possible to say that she is grateful to live a life of eternal devotion and service to Master while chained up in the public square, out near the stocks. Anniversaries are important for slaves.

>>11409400
My dude I proofread over a few times every single post and still regularly miss loads of shit. I didn't even notice in yours.

Is 25yr too late to be someones slave?

>>11409411
You're just a slave. Look I get that being anxious is how you things work, I sure as shit doubt you actually thought you were young and hot and ready to serve when you were 22, but what matters is that you have a soul that is meant to serve someone else, even that servile husk you currently occupy is secondary to that. Master can and will remake every other part of you to His specification.

>>11409404
I picture her spending the next however long trying to find a way out from under that slave crest. She's way better at magic than humans, and still is, surely she can find a way out of this impossible-to-dispel tattoo, right? Just because the entire history of both elven and human magical knowledge says it's absolutely inescapable doesn't mean it actually is for sure, right?

See, that's something I'd snatch up at the market. Some elven wizard who's been enslaved longer than I've been alive, yet still trying to escape? A poker face hiding and light attitude masking grim desperation? That's really fun. I might even help her out.

>>11409447
Former mages make the best servants for mages who are people. It just makes sense.

Sure I'll help her out. "help" her out. Whose to say that there isn't a path to dispelling, it might be really hard and very specific, but if she can do it exactly right she can be free, but of course she has no chance whatsoever. Sure your failure might be because of intentional sabotage, gaslighting, all those good things, or maybe because the last time this little thing cast a spell was 300 years ago? All she's known is cocksucking and domestic toil. She knows her way around a mop, not a stave, dumb thing, no wonder she's going to be on her knees for all of human history.

>>11409242
Tfw guess I'm the only kind Master here.

>>11409458
You are more kind than most, even my brand of "brutal paternalism" is kinder than the abject cruelty that is often popular here. Like I enjoy telling some piece of meat that is "old" or "worn out" or whatever other words she overhead from human beings to instead just get on her knees and empty her head so it can be filled with cock. Honestly I think a lot of the slaves around here would just get confused being treated so nice, it's not what they really think they deserve.

>>11409457
Oh, I'd give her a fair shake at it. Fair-ish, at least. She can have some spellbooks, let her run an experiment or two, whatever it is she asks. I like letting my slaves have their little projects.
Within reason, at least. My reason. And if she wants something beyond that then she's going to have to earn it. And she's still got her duties as a slave, whatever I decide those entail. Can't very well a genuine elf at my disposal and not do anything with her, right? I'm only human.

>>11409467
Even those bitches with a thousand yard stare give exemplary service. Those elves are great.

As a mage giving those things any kind of spellcasting privileges feels wrong, but hey if they were formerly powerful who knows what new ways than can be useful in. Maybe she even figures out a new way to bind even more of her sisters in chains, but letting them use that stuff always felt like letting a slave touch or handle the whip that's used on her. Carrying that stuff and delivering it to me, maybe, but to grasp it even in a way where she could use it? Nah, every slave Ive ever had that has brought me a whip to beat them with has done so with it in their mouth and crawling on the floor. I won't even let them use magic to assist in the most basic of cleaning.

>>11409415
Thanks i needed to hear this <3

>>11409500
Even if I don't know you then this is something that every slave truly needs to understand: They are not as ugly as they believe they are, but even if they somehow are, they will have no choice in being remade, it is complete surrender to a better person that actually defines what they are.

If only mine knew just how much seeing her weird thin and pale body watching me made me want to make sure delivery of that body to me is done without complications even more.

>>11409511
Lucky sub I hope I'll be lucky one day too. When I'm talking with a real dom I feel protected from the world and I just know if I get to be with him I'll feel at home.

>>11409571
she is, well, a good girl. I'm not sure about lucky but it pains me so much since something must clearly be stopping her, I don't know what it is, and I can't protect her from it.

slaves, despite all the cruel talk, they just activate that protection instinct in me. They have suffered so much, being in the dirt is what's best for them, having Master rule over their world and thus make it one they can be happy with.

>>11409411
Nope. As you get older the relationship dynamic between a master and their slave tends to change- slaves and doms alike tend to be less tolerant of the performative bullshit and expect real shows of commitment and devotion. The showboating crap gets put up with a lot less.
That and subs tend to end up becoming consorts or concubines. Getting your mistress pregnant or being impregnated by your master tends to change things a bit. Not necessarily better or worse, but definitely different.
>>11409303
>Not becoming a Buddhist necromancer so that you can bind your slaves soul to yours for all eternity and dominate them till you both break the chains of reality and achieve samsara.
>>11409191
You can expect a degree of commitment from a master. You can carry some expectation that a dom is invested in you just as you're invested in them. Denying yourself an enjoyable life experience simply because it might end badly is like saying you should just do nothing. In reality most D/s relationships tend to flare out simply because it is too intense for its own good and neither party realized that they'd need to buoy the extreme stuff with really basic stuff. Skipping straight to the intense stuff and never relenting is how you damage the goods. At the end of it all we all, every one of us, die alone. It's the things you do in between the start and end that make your life what it is. And its the highly valuable relationships and love that make life, suffering and all, worth living.
>>11403787
For anyone who needs to hear it, slave contracts aren't even legally enforceable. It is completely performative and mostly exists so that the dom and sub can communicate expectations.

>>11409627
>pregnancy
Yeah even if I was vanilla (somehow) I knew when I was like 5 that I didn't want children. Since it wasn't much longer after that I knew I wanted a slave girl there was also the additional problem of how would you ever not have that kid grow up with some messed up view of women, but that problem was also solved before it could even begin so

>Buddhist necromancer
Nah I'm only not one of those.

>BDSM intense relationship
The extreme lifestyle slavery stuff discussed here probably has a 100% rate of the slaves having rather obsessive ways of feeling love, but I do wonder how many Master's would feel similar.

Obviously it's way different when you are in complete control versus being completely controlled but there's a reason why my thoughts are full of a lot more than just a specific type of body. It's a real shame that souls largely aren't real no matter how much slaves emotionally feel like they are bound to their obsessions through multiple afterlives, I checked and they mostly aren't.

>>11409636
>I checked and they mostly aren't.
Skill issue. Devotion between a master and slave should be to a scale that they both think transcends the mortal coil. Anything less is lacking in conviction. A master should aspire to be an object of borderline divine worship. A slave should aspire to be a conduit of divine devotion.
>but I do wonder how many Master's would feel similar.
Probably shouldn't become a master if you don't want to negotiate around borderline obsessive love on the part of your slave. It's the same as maintaining a relationship with the opposite sex where you know they want- as an example- to have kids while you know you either don't want to or can't. You're just wasting their time for your own convenience.
>there was also the additional problem of how would you ever not have that kid grow up with some messed up view of women,
Slaves are not concubines. If she's pregnant the dynamic of the relationship inherently changes. There's open questions that should be asked in advance- are both parties on the same page about wanting children?- and there's others you have to work your way through- what does submission look like with kids in the household?- but pretending your theoretical kids should be not-had because they might grow up hating women is presumptuous. They'd be just as likely to become a self-loathing asshole who despises their abusive father. I'd be more worried about having the rest of your personality rub off on your kid since the kinds of people who are into this stuff tend to have unresolved traumas.
The point of having children isn't to have a little mini-me running around. It is a show of love. That and the boring stuff- it's a vote of faith in your community, for one.

>>11409649
>Divine Worship
>slave a conduit of divine devotion
Oh don't worry, just because this stuff isn't actually real, doesn't mean that it suddenly isn't real inside a slaves extremely intense and emotional mind. Being bigger than a slaves entire world, living up to a slaves worship of me as a perfect being far more than a human should. I don't believe godhood is real, but brainwashing a slave to believe in it sure is.

>borderline obsessive love
"borderline", yeah no slaves like this are not borderline. I clearly have gotten a wrong ID if they aren't obsessive in their worship. These things love to pray and jerk off to a piece of Master's trash they stole 7 years ago.

>Messing up the kids in completely unexpected ways
I mean yeah probably. This is still a completely solved problem, no kids, a slave's line ends with her in servitude and Master quite clearly deciding that continuing the human race is for people who are far too normal and don't try to ascend to godhood.

>>11409665
I still don't know what is wrong with that slave, what is stopping her, if that is even her out by my windows all the time every night, but your soul is completely bound to mine already. You cannot fuck that up.

Perhaps when I rise tomorrow morning I will have seen the fruits of that tortured little soul longing for eternal peace, safety and worship living beneath mine. Perhaps. There's not a lot of ways to escape it, considering just how long you've been enthralled by it.

>>11404656
>decision paralysis
These are almost too happy to submit. Everything's better when master thinks for them.

>>11409802
better to be a pony
walk in one direction
turn where master tugs you
faster when he whips you
cum when he makes you

>>11409812
While carrying his loot, I hope?

>>11403787
>a pony cant read or write
>>11403821
>Personally I believe in reading for my slave, then just dictating to her what it said. she doesn't actually need to know that much, and she'll just get confused if she has room to interpret the meaning of things for herself. Master's always looking out for her, it's for her own good.
>>11409812
>better to be a pony
>walk in one direction
>turn where master tugs you
This is why I like keeping the kitten in the dark. It's better that she simply follows her leader. she's happier too.

>>11409860
Also, it's so cute when she comes into a room, meowing for permission to be here.
I had her wear cat ears for halloween, but I think they're going to get more usage.

Poor slaves. Life is hard, and to desire complete subjugation and servitude means that the prison inside their heads is far worse than living entirely under a real persons control.

>>11409884
Being into neko stuff must be a lot of them. My poor little katslave sure is. slaves don't get to speak without permission, but they can meow. It's a good way to put a smile on people's faces by acting cute, which slaves always are.

There is a extremely high chance that she wants to wear the cat ears for the rest of her life btw. she might start begging for it one day.

>>11409691
Sir i think thats a wendigo outside your window. Im not saying they dont wanna be your sub im just saying be careful

>>11409894
I have no clue what it actually is, slave. Sure it started up a bit after one of them had a really bad crisis in January, but literally every night, almost all the time I'm awake? Flashes of light and movement, but especially soft talking, heard all the way out there? I'm not sure if its even possible for a slave to be that devoted, but she would earn the name "devotion" pretty much immediately if she was.

A wendigo might actually try to do something dangerous but I still ain't afraid of no wendigo. They're harder to defeat than a slave that gets a bit confused, sure, but so are a lot of things.

>>11409845
of course, the best slaves are both eye candy and physical laborers

>>11409939
slaves are just tools. Very nice looking tools that I love to get inside the head of, but still just tools.

They have exactly as much choice over their toil as they do about being easy on the eyes of their overseer while doing it.

>>11409892
>she might start begging for it one day
God, that would be adorable.

>>11409860
what is the best way to leash your slaves?
>leashed to collar around the neck
>leashed to nose ring
>leashed to nipples
>leashed to genitals
>no leash because the slave is so broken in they know to follow

>>11409982
>>leashed to collar around the neck
Most aesthetic, but
>>no leash because the slave is so broken in they know to follow
Anything else, and you risk damaging your slave.
[spoiler] especially if she has blackout lenses in. At which point she dare not take a step without master's guidance. sorry there's not much art of this

>>11409982
>leashed to collar around the neck
Most practical, looks the best, easiest to set up. Don't underestimate the psychological impact of being dragged by the neck either, our dumb monkey brain don't like that. My pick.
>leashed to nose ring
Gross.
>leashed to nipples
>leashed to genitals
Do it for cruel, torturous fun, but only that. Having them leashed up by the clit or breasts all the time is just kinda weird.
>no leash because the slave is so broken in they know to follow
The option for cowards who don't actually want to answer the question.

>>11409998
>Do it for cruel, torturous fun, but only that. Having them leashed up by the clit or breasts all the time is just kinda weird.
not even for decoration?

>>11409998
>Do it for cruel, torturous fun, but only that.
Yeah. Plus those places bleed a LOT when ripped, and may not heal right w/o surgery.

>>11409971
She for sure already wants to, if you just tell her to beg for it she will. This is the best way to play with a slaves feelings, you've already decided to do something with her, she just has to beg to humiliate herself further.

"please Master! please let your slave wear cat ears for the rest of her pitiful life! i'm just a doll to decorate with as Master pleases, Master! just please give this creature a crumb of humoring her dumb little requests!"

>>11409982
I'm coming around on the idea that if a slave ever leaves the house, she should be leashed to Master at all times. The collar is her constant companion of course, its just practical to attach it there, but even if she is broken enough to never meaningfully defy Master, her little head isn't really hers, it can get her in all sorts of trouble.

Being able to yank her around is both practical, bitch is limited in her able to get in trouble, but also helps ground her mind in Master's control even more than when she's just serving around the house, although with how they are it would also be a good idea to leash them inside a lot of the time.

>>11410001
Cruel, torturous, fun decoration.

>>11410006
>if a slave ever leaves the house, she should be leashed to Master at all times. The collar is her constant companion of course, its just practical to attach it there, but even if she is broken enough to never meaningfully defy Master, her little head isn't really hers, it can get her in all sorts of trouble
That's why I like the lenses. She never leaves my arm when we're outside. A bonus- she used to want her privacy while using the bathroom. Now, since she needs guidance for even the most basic things, she wants me in the bathroom with her.
>"y-you're not looking, are you?"
>"of course not"
>was watching the whole time

>>11410038
Usually mine are the type to want to go outside or use a bucket or something. It feels wrong for them to use a toilet, that's for people, and doesn't that flushing cost even fractions of a cent that she doesn't deserve? Using a toilet is the most practical but you can atleast humiliate them by having them ask permission every single time. Maybe leave the door open sometimes, but that gets gross, if you want to demonstrate how they are just dirt who don't deserve privacy it's best to just occasionally throw their nude body outside for 5 minutes when they ask permission.

They -will- want to follow Master into the bathroom however. They're far too yandere to live, of course. Master has rights and that includes privacy so she needs to be punished if she has a problem with waiting outside but they will consistently blow past every single limit to just being fucking weird you think exist. I'm not into watersports or stuff like that so she gets regularly punished if she tries that stuff but at least those yandere creatures are happy with being able to kneel in the same bathroom as Master.

>>11410003
well you shouldnt be yanking them so hard you're ripping them out
personally the more intimate leashes should be paired with other types of bondage so they're hobbled anyway, an already trained slave so its more about the humiliation than acting as an actual leash, or maybe some predicament bondage

>>11410055
I can't take her to a restaurant with a bucket.
Of course its so cute when they ask to be led to the bathroom, they can't even go by themselves.

Gee, I sure hope that the slave trainer gang that's been kidnapping women in my neighborhood lately doesn't find me like this. I think I might've even left the front door open by accident.

>>11410058
Having to ask since she actually cannot make it there is cute. As is all of this ontop of a rather normal human outing, eating at the table with Master. It's entirely possible most people look at you two and see just a normal, loving couple. Even though underneath the emotions are just as completely intense as the complete dehumanization a lot of the girlies around here touch themselves to. I mean assuming they weren't looking closely and didn't notice that one has been robbed of sight in order to make her more reliant on her God, of course.

>>11410065
Hey you've got the same wendigo problem? That's not the best since slaves tend to not be great at repelling incursions from supernatural monsters or anything, really.

I'd say just tie yourself up in some public park or something and let the chips fall where they may. The slaver gangs, a wendigo, a random passerby, God himself descending from heaven, who knows. Only thing you know for sure is that you won't need to know anything anymore.

>>11410132
>That's not the best since slaves tend to not be great at repelling incursions from supernatural monsters
im sorry this got a hearty kek out of me

>>11410140
slaves are not good at anything but especially the really hard stuff.

Like yeah obviously, wouldn't trust mine to win in hand to hand combat with a manticore either. she has enough trouble with everything else, why do you think she lives in chains?

>>11410147
That's why you keep them as chubby bedwarming pets, duh. Unlimited cuddles and head scratches.

>>11410147
>well master, the bad news is there was a dimensional incursion in the manor and goblins from hell are pouring through the breach
>the good news, master, is the supernatural incursion is in the slave dungeons and the goblins are quite distracted

>>11410132
>It's entirely possible most people look at you two and see just a normal, loving couple.
Oh, but of course we are.
>assuming they weren't looking closely and didn't notice that one has been robbed of sight in order to make her more reliant on her God, of course
From the outside, it's even more adorable. I took her to a place that sold different types of polished rocks and jewelry for her to explore by touch, and the girl working the counter- I thought her little heart was about to explode.

>>11410154
They are a lot better at doing basic slave tasks if you give them head scritches both before and after. This is true.

>>11410156
Oh no. Gotta clear that out right away.

You know how horny the slaves will be to suck goblin cock for at least the following decade? Shut that shit down.

>>11410160
I wonder if people like that would have some awareness of this kind of relationship or can just see the pure love beaming off a submissive thing like that when they are truly happy.

Probably a bit of both. Even when they aren't nude and in chains slaves are still somewhat distinctive, assuming that who they worship is around.

>>11410163
>You know how horny the slaves will be to suck goblin cock for at least the following decade? Shut that shit down.
magical girl slaves get their inhibitor collars removed for magical pest removal duties...
wait a minute, head count... did those goblins take one of the slaves through the portal?

>>11410172
Goddamnit there's always one. I swear she chains herself to the gobbos every time they come.

Good thing she still doesn't understand why we find her exact position every time she gets a bit confused. Nothing a armed expedition into the goblands alongside 3 months in the misery sphere cannot fix.

>>11410183
the warrior slaves will get some exercise slaying goblins

>>11410185
Hah. I still say letting slaves have even that degree of power, even enslaved, is dangerous, but those obsessive yandere creatures that make great personal slaves? Y'know, the ones I am so horny for?

I still wouldn't let them touch any actual weapons, even the tools she uses to cook are suspect since she can hurt herself for not being the divinely perfect slave that Master deserves, but since she spends every waking moment with Master then I know for sure she'd try to physically tear apart anything hostile that got too close.

Spent the entire campaign kneeling next to me in the officers tent. Had to tear her off 5 separate envoys but one of them actually was 3 goblins in a suit, so it was worth it.

>>11410197
once a slave has been sufficiently trained its fun to give them a little more length on their leash, especially if they have utility to the rest of the party for goblin slaying
you can always tactfully remind them of their slave status in various creative ways

>>11410163
>see the pure love beaming off a submissive thing like that when they are truly happy
The girl didn't seem to notice anything other than a man taking extra care of his cute blind wife.

>>11410221
Back in my adventurer days I made sure to buy one of those party bitches. Sure she's supposed to have a life of just drawing the camp cart, unpacking it, literally every form of domestic toil needed by the party alongside sexual service at any time, but if you are good at brainwashing them you can trust them more.

A little short sword, some basic healing magic, some rags so maybe people don't stare at her as much, she can be maybe 1% of the power of a level 1 noob adventurer. Honestly though slaves aren't meant for anything involving strength or power, she spent every single fight crying and screaming for Master, but atleast the whole ordeal brainwashed her further.

She has a fantastic life now being legally considered identical to the furniture in my tower. Good thing too, she spent the last 4 months or so in the party literally leashed to me at all times since one battle she got scared and ran towards the gobs.

>>11410229
Yeah people can be blind too. And not be a slave at the same time.

I mean probably, I think more stuff can happen to your eyes than just your sight being taken by Master, but yeah. That level of care always look adorable.

>>11410185
Your pic reminds me of the movie "Gamer" (with Gerard Butler). In it, "video games" actually use puppeteered prisoners who are controlled by the player in deathmatches.
Wouldn't that be a cool idea for slavery? A sport where slaves with attractive, muscular bodies are "piloted" for sport. Letting slaves hold weapons is inherently dangerous, so they're kept blindfolded and earplugged while participating. Of course, this only serves to increase their sensitivity to the sensations of being hit in combat.
These matches are usually nonlethal, as slaves are, of course, valuable, but in some cases, lethal matches are held when a slave is deemed fit for execution.

>>11410278
>attractive, muscular bodies
You lost me.

>>11410279
>attractive
Yes.
>muscular
No.

Honestly you'd be surprised when a slave is mostly given gruel to survive off of how even when their toil is often physical, just how thin and cute they can still remain. Drawing Master's rickshaw, carrying heavy loads for Him, it's tough but you don't actually need that much strength in the end, tears will often be enough.

>>11410278
slave gladiator games though, absolutely here for that.

Never thought about that puppeteering stuff before, but I suppose that could be fun. I always liked the idea of it just being a weird form of punishment. Like its not even called gladiator matches, instead its one form that "public devotional rituals" could take. slaves are often taken and forced to do all kinds of things to test their loyalty. This could be as simple as very public displays of complete humiliation and degradation, or it could be being thrown down into a small pit alongside another slave, and told "Only one of you things get to come back to Master alive"

Now critical there is that the overseers will step in long before it gets to that point, but it's fun to see what they do. Do they both start breaking down and pleading for their life? Maybe my beloved yandere just immediately jumps on a opportunity to prove Master's divinity, or maybe they both try to fight but extremely badly, who knows. It's a great way to figure out more about what's in a girl's head and thus be better at brainwashing her anyways.

>>11410229
I bet handfeeding your pet slave would be extra adorable.

>>11409982
Its more in the collar than the leash. As a rule of thumb the more disobedient the slave the more elaborate (read: heavy) the collar is. In contrast the better the slave the more done up she is. A slave with years of service under her belt is going to have all kinds of ornamental piercings and valuable jewelry dangling off her. Prospective masters tend to look for the bare, unadorned slave with the small cloth collar because that typically indicates an extremely subservient, obedient slave who hasn't been thoroughly trained to someone else's tastes.
>>11410147
Most slaves just aren't built for the complicated stuff. Finding the right balance between motivation and subservience can be difficult, too.
>>11409989
Remember to take your slave to the local optometrist to be properly fitted for blackout contacts.

>>11410334
Weird, I always loved the heavy collars, less so the ornamental piercings. I wouldn't be too upset picking out a new piece of meat that had some simple looking ones, maybe it made her feel more like a slave when she was pretending to be free, like through her nipples or bellybutton or something, but not gold, obviously.

I always liked the aesthetic of heavy collars and manacles on already pretty thin slaves. At most the only other thing on her should be a brand, but otherwise she's completely unadorned, it's her bodies use as a tool that counts, and I feel like the ornamentation comes from just how nice it looks alongside how well trained she is to give pleasure to people in every move she makes.

If someone was to see mine with that stuff on her and think she is super disobedient and will misbehave then...Well, she does bite people a lot...

Even sometimes free people too. She once got upset at a crosswalk sign thing that she thought beeped at me with improper respect. At least the birds haven't figured out a way to disrespect me, she loves running after those. Yeah maybe there's a point there.

>>11410334
>Remember to take your slave to the local optometrist to be properly fitted for blackout contacts.
I did have her fitted.
One pair was a custom set hand painted to look like regular eyes, took months to make, and set me back almost $600.
There are more reasonable options, that are basically invisible under even lightly tinted sunglasses.

>>11410387
Oh the kind of slaves I like are clearly quite a different subclass than that. Spending $600 on her? Even if it was to make me happy she'd still feel guilty for whatever reason. It feels so wrong. -maybe- some kind of elaborate torture machine, but it'd be best if that was also constructed using slave labour, and assist in correcting a lot more girls than just her, she shouldn't be that special.

Do those contacts actually stand up to most people? The painting does it job? That is just adorable, the thought of it being borderline impossible for someone not in the know to see what is going on there. Oh she's not blind, she's just in a very emotionally intense relationship.

>>11410401
>borderline impossible for someone not in the know to see what is going on there
That's half the fun. The other is how quickly it puts her into subbie mode.

>>11410334
>A slave with years of service under her belt is going to have all kinds of ornamental piercings and valuable jewelry dangling off her.
i really like the concept of a high class, well trained slave is as much a display piece for other precious objects as anything else
she would be used to flaunt the wealth and status of her master as well as being pleasing to look at

>>11410660
Wow, finally someone else who gets it. If my slave is doing this well compared to the other slaves at some high class party, the guests there can only wonder just how well I'm doing financially too; to spend that much time and resources on someone who is jut my pet/tool.

>>11410372
The point of a heavy collar is to break the will of the slave. Particularly ornery slaves get heavier collars and in extreme cases are subjected to the trial of iron. Which is roughly what it sounds like- iron weights are attached to their wrists and legs and an especially heavy collar is fashioned to their neck. All heavy to the point that they have to be escorted everywhere and can't do anything alone. The punishment is largely designed to break their will, wear down their ego, and get them to understand that out here you can't be selfish and you don't end up a slave on accident. The disobedient slave is usually escorted by their master's most obedient slaves just to drive in exactly what behavior is and is not expected.
>>11410692
>>11410660
Slaves in clan society can't legally own money, so the way slaves tend to be rewarded is with something of alternative value. This helps to establish a pecking order between slaves but also encourages collaboration between them and helps to distinguish between high value and low value slaves. Although the particulars vary between the various kith, kin, and clans, as a rule of thumb the more you see attached to a slave, the better they are, the more valuable they are. This does bear out in obvious ways- mercantile clans tend to have glittering slaves while the trade clans tend to have slaves that indicate the professions of their masters. Machinists might have their slaves wearing intricately machined rare metals while the slave of a chef is probably getting a (naked) apron with gold embroidery. Clothiers and tailors are known to have slaves that are heavy on the piercings because their cloth is woven into them- corset piercings are always popular. Likewise the fertility cultists have a completely different view on things and tend to forgo material indicators of wealth in favor of things like stretch marks. And of course the bio-tech clan weirdos tend to obsess over their 'flawless' slaves.

>>11411066
A fine Lyn, though I don’t care for the implied hypnosis.

>>11411071
Not nearly enough quality Lyn images.

>>11411075
Which is saying something, because there’s quite a lot.
I guess they’re mostly more about bondage and rape than explicitly slavery, though.

I guess I never cared much for those displays of wealth, a good life to me was always mildly ascetic, wealth coming from feeling fulfilled in owning a deeply brainwashed and deeply personal slave, but that does make me the odd one out among literal slave masters.

>>11411066
Hey even if people think mine is undergoing some mild form of the trial by iron that's still fine by me. It's better when nobody really tries to talk to her, or are extra mean and dismissive when they do. she hates when people think she's anything other than a very direct puppet for Master.

...Although she may have to undergo a actual trial of iron should she be successful in bringing back some snackies in the form of those birds. I don't think she's smart enough to catch them, but slaves often make up for smarts with intensity.

>>11411095
Yup. I just want Slave Lyn either enjoying her servitude or being broken by it. I don't want to see five guys running a train on her.

>>11411106
Oh. Well, uh, we’re gonna have to agree to disagree, because I hate the former and love the latter.

>>11411104
A clanner might give you grief for not adhering closely enough to the prescriptions but there's nothing wrong with having modest slaves. It just might be interpreted as abuse since slaves are expected to be compensated for their devotion since that is what they will live off of once their slavery ends. Theoretically. It is actually pretty rare for a slave to exit slavery and by the time most of them can buy their freedom they're so far in the tank that they can't even conceive of life outside the collar. Less competitive masters tend to keep their slaves modest and live quiet, content lives with the compensation being closer to a goblin's horde of trinkets.
Of course a slave might also apply for the trial of devotion. Although it was originally reserved for the fertility cults and other religious sects these days a slave can request to devote themselves entirely to their master and if the trial is completed it functionally carries the same weight in most kith and clans as outright marriage. The master has to agree to hold no other slaves in bondage and devote themselves to this one slave and the slave has to forgo all worldly possessions (meaning they will never buy their freedom) and cherish nothing but their master.
Of course the ones who administer this trial are some of the most notoriously fanatic fundamentalist religious hard asses among the clans and they do not take lightly to anyone they think is making light of their most sacred of trials. Not unusual for master and slave alike who do this half-hearted to find themselves both enslaved.

>>11411129
Wow there's clearly a lot of lore going on here. The trial of devotion sounds nice. I only ever thought about having more than one slave since my heart just cannot take seeing just how many lost souls need someone to take control over themselves. Forced Lez is a silver lining atleast.

What exactly does this trial entail? I presume "intense" is just the beginning, but I feel like a slave would finally feel peace for the first time in her life knowing that not only is she going to be bound to Master for life, but Master's attention is truly on her. The fact my heart breaks seeing a slave in her default state of complete turmoil is not a good combination alongside the fact that not having Master to themselves just breaks them, especially since vocalizing that is tough for creatures who already don't feel like they deserve anything.

>>11411131
The trial is never consistent, is only performed once per year in March (it typically dovetails with fertility rituals in April) and the cults only publish what a test might include by referencing past examples, which themselves will never be repeated. The only consistent rules are that you and your master have to convince a board of three high priests (or priestesses) that you are completely devoted to each other, that the board's word is absolute, there is no tolerance of 'trickery' and typically the board will tell you what to do, you don't put on an act for them.
The boards have had masters and slaves do anything from convince them that they just murdered their partner to gauge their reaction, order the two of them to survive together in the wastes for two months (just long enough that two people working together can survive, long enough to kill two people who can't) to ordering both of them to engage in infidelity. The rule of thumb is that while there's clear failure conditions, there's usually many ways to pass. If the board orders a slave to cheat on their master, they're not looking at whether or not they follow orders but instead gauge the slave's reaction. If a master is convinced they just poisoned their slave and killed them (it's an old pre-collapse medical trick, nothing serious) the board is trying to gauge their response. The intention is for the entire ordeal to be exceedingly stressing and traumatic for both parties, but the results do speak for themselves. Among other things completing the trial does grant you functional membership in the religious kith- you can't vote, you'll never be a member of the ruling council and you are obligated to stand with the faithful in times of hardship but you can also find shelter and food at any religious establishment they maintain, and you'll be buried among the faithful which is a valuable perk if you happen to have family. Plus when you die your slave is entered into a convent / monastery.

>>11411154
Sure does sound intense, at the end though I am glad that my slave would finally have something approaching peace. Of course, the kind of peace forged in the fire of that kind of trauma is the only way a slave is really capable of knowing it.

I'd expect my slave to be absolutely mortified at the thought of being unfaithful to Master, and beg over and over again to not be ordered to do so, and just default to begging harder when compelled to obey. Poisoning my poor thing though, she's completely powerless, that's why she put ultimate faith in me to rule over her. It was clearly a immense failure that she would die in my care, even if it was or was not due to my direct actions, every single avenue of trying to revive her would have to be pursued, not a single moment of rest until either she is back or I literally drop from exhaustion.

I do suspect it is somewhat rare for Master's to mirror the obsessive love that is default in slaves, probably why the religious cult is so grumpy about how most people think they can handle it but they don't. Being given over to some convent should she outlast me does give me some solace too. I have a feeling my final orders that she still live out her natural lifespan in service to whoever I feel is right to inherit her is not going to easy to follow, and slaves who often have negative strength would especially have that at such a time.

>>11411176
>I do suspect it is somewhat rare for Master's to mirror the obsessive love that is default in slaves
Those who own slaves usually have it drilled into them that there is a massive weight and responsibility to the role they fill. They don't technically owe their slaves anything but there is a respect that needs to be had. At least among the various kith of the wastes, slavery was as much a way of life as it was a means of survival. And just the same, it wasn't- and isn't- difficult to discover what happens when the shoe is on the other foot. Although they do represent a unified political body to invaders, in practice the Kith are incredibly diffuse and recognize little authority in peace time outside their kith, kin and clan. And as a result, at any given time someone is fighting someone. Usually this stays within the realm of honor duels- two people walk in, name their terms, one person fights to the death, the other dies- but that isn't to say that whole kith haven't been brutally wiped out in a night.

That's without broaching the subject of the environment. In such a place how your slaves are treated reflects a lot- you might end up being theirs in short order. Of course in reality you're more likely to end up being their co-slave, but the kith tend to be honor bound and will look to the slave to judge how the former master should be treated.

>I have a feeling my final orders that she still live out her natural lifespan in service to whoever I feel is right to inherit her is not going to easy to follow
Depends on the nature of the slave. So-called 'gutter' slaves are treated as property of either kith, kin, or clan, depending on the nature of their crimes. Economic slaves typically have their debts erased with the death of their master, although covenants and contracts can be messy and more than one slave has learned the hard way that they sold themselves to a family, not a person, which means their own son or daughter now, technically, owns them.