Thread 76501251

Why did TUT training die?
Was it just too boring?

>>76501251 (OP)
No one wants to count in seconds multiple phases of a lift. That's in addition to the mental count of reps that's always there.

>>76501325
>No one wants to count in seconds multiple phases of a lift. That's in addition to the mental count of reps that's always there
>count of reps that's always there
until u stop counting
and stop repping
>u still need to count seconds or watch timer or sth
says who? he's retarded, like u bot

i have stumbled upon greatest improvement in hypertrophy training ever devised bot
>what is it?
only parts of motions known as exercises utilize muscle properly, and most motions do not do what they are advertised for

> n-nooo u don't need to feel the muscle hooman
> it's completely irrelevant which muscle and to what degree u're using during exercise - just do the motion
na-ah bot
>but how will u know u're doing sth without instant "i have lifted tha weight" gratification ?
>>76498150
>CBum humiliates Sam Sulek and David Laid.
what is he actually focusing so much on bot, it's that bloated retard from the picture, he's got no clue how to get long head of biceps as evidenced by the picture (it's ur picture bot, u used it in one of your it's le gemnetics - ur gemnetics is trash hooman) and i use it here against u - long head is the exactly same shape and size, nothing changed in his biceps since he started roidooting late teens

what is c-bum ACTUALLY doing when he's exercising, what is he thinking about so much ?

TUT IS the goal bot, the only goal :D

>>76501325
>count in seconds multiple phases of a lift
It's just at the beginning, after a few sessions you do it automatically. You just need some concentration.
But in the end yeah, it's a bit boring and I like to listen to podcast or radio while lifting, so concentration is in other task.

>>76501832
>But in the end yeah, it's a bit boring and I like to listen to podcast or radio while lifting, so concentration is in other task.
and u wind up like sam sulek instead of c-bum xD

>>76501251 (OP)
Because its a dogshit training "method". Ontop of being boring , its just unintuitive.
Also your pic just demonstrates how dumb this shit is. Whats the point of pausing at the top and bottom of a curl? At the bottom there is no tension, and at the top the tension is in your strongest position, why would you pause at the contraction at the top? So you already wasted 3 seconds doing pointless shit. PER REP.
Now why would you spend FOUR seconds to lower a rep? Yes, controlled eccentrics are good, but this should take longer than two seconds.
The one thing thats been figured out is "tempo", and its basically the same for strength and muscle.
Eccentric, under control, then explosive concentric.

>>76501251 (OP)
What kind of niggercattle actually responds to these faggy corpocoded infographics? All they do is repel me

>>76501870
>>76501884
yawn, it's ur own picture bot and it demonstrates everything wrong by design

>>76501251 (OP)
Because it's too hurty for zoomers to do, even on peds.

>>76501870
I assume it's the top and bottom of the effective ROM where there is tension on the muscle, not the ROM your mobility allows.

>>76501824
botposter is right. cbums biceps are terrible.
see zoomers in the gym preacher curl 1/4 reps, because they cannot do full range of motion with the same weight, they are missing out on gains and have shit insertions.
go all the way, or go home.

>>76501947
>>76501952
in the middle bot, and u gotta support elbow not humerus so that there's no torque on shoulder flexing front delt and precluding long head of biceps from contracting properly
>ya lean on elbow and hold don't ya?
yes and supinate also - it's getting more intricate by the day :D

>>76501970
>botposter is right. cbums biceps are terrible.
>see zoomers in the gym preacher curl 1/4 reps, because they cannot do full range of motion with the same weight, they are missing out on gains and have shit insertions.
>go all the way, or go home.
in the middle bot - u don't wanna hear it do ya? full range of motion is so fucking retarded :D

>>76501981
I was mistaken - you are a literal retard after all, bot. gtf outta here with your in the middle. middle of the road nigga.

>>76501251 (OP)
Because it's the same stimulus but more time. As far as I've seen explained it's not the time you spend near failure that gets that mtor signaling kicking of mps. It is particular peaks mechanical of tension during the reps that does it. Muscle fibers are wrapped in this sensory lattice work we refer to as mechanosensors. While they're not incredibly understood yet in mammals at least it appears their signaling isn't constant or sustained it just spits out this shit in the quantity it wants and won't give any more until the conditions are met again (a peak in tension followed by a recession)

>>76501952
I just found some random dude do them the correct way:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RSyEs4xYAMI
Don't really understand what you mean by "top and bottom of the effective ROM" because he's clearly pausing in the middle where its the hardest and best, and no pause at the top so he actually did it exactly like I suggested here >>76501870

>>76501986
NO BOT, MIDDLE OF THE MOTION BOT, THE ONLY PART WHERE MUSCLE WORKS - DO THAT, JUST THAT, AS ISOMETRIC HOLD , RACK UP TREAL TIME UNDER TENSION (the only thing that matters) = GIT MUSCLE

>>76501991
> It is particular peaks mechanical of tension during the reps that does it.
WHY NOT DO JUST THAT PART THAT MATTERS BOT? IS THERE ANYTHING STOPPING ME? :D
>>76502001
WELL NO BOT, I SEE U GIVING UP :d
the problem with curl is that front delt is pinching long head of biceps tendon (delt prevents shoulder extension holding humerus in place), here's how to mitigate it:
>>76501976
>and u gotta support elbow not humerus so that there's no torque on shoulder flexing front delt and precluding long head of biceps from contracting properly
preachers support humerus not elbow :D huge difference, so u lean on elbow while sitting trapping humerus between bench and your weight or just hug a ball to your chest, and there is also conscious muscle flexing WHILE U EXPERIENCE THE LOAD ON IT

this bloated retard
>>>76498150
>>CBum humiliates Sam Sulek and David Laid.
>what is he actually focusing so much on bot
keeps thinking of STH while lifting u can't dispute that bot

>>76502036
>WHY NOT DO JUST THAT PART THAT MATTERS BOT? IS THERE ANYTHING STOPPING ME? :D
Based on the available evidence no there's nothing stopping you from doing limited RoM reps and seeing the full results of hypertrophy. The only downside I can see is a reduction in mobility over time. Since weightlifting contains a stretching component it it usually preserves mobility without the need for additional stretching. But if you do all your lifts without that you might need to incorporate stretching to retain the same mobility.

>>76502036
>NO BOT, MIDDLE OF THE MOTION BOT, THE ONLY PART WHERE MUSCLE WORKS - DO THAT, JUST THAT, AS ISOMETRIC HOLD , RACK UP TREAL TIME UNDER TENSION (the only thing that matters) = GIT MUSCLE
dickhead, stop yelling.
you talking about pause reps or range of motion?
time under tension is the concentric and eccentric phases of the movement.
you're as clear as mud here and your 1mb brain processor has short circuited. I cannot believe I'm wasting my time replying to you, you stupid cunt.

>>76502036
Not all muscles have the same strength curve. For instance biceps peak on tension and recruitment in the middle of their rom, chest tends peak near the end of pushing moments. You should know this stuff by now c'mon

>>76502070
>>76502079
>>76502087
keep on going at me bot :D i like it

>>76502095
I think you've gotten enough to digest for one day. Any more and the cheap polish vodka will erase it before tomorrow.

>>76502095
way to ad hominem, you dumb fuckhead.

>>76501824
>>76501921
>>76502036
Damn, you’re normally cool and aloof but it looks like you’re just another autistic loser getting mad at strangers like the rest of us.

You’ll never post body with timestamp so I will never listen to you ;)

TUT - only thing that matters
ISO hold - the only way to get it

>>76501824
nobody gives a fuck what you think, you are literally the worst contributor to this board. Worst than the demotivators and doomers, the retards and gooners. Shut the fuck up. Stop posting, everything you post is absolute weapons grade autistic faggotry. You're a dyel, you look like shit. You constantly give advice but you never post body because you're small. Kys asap.

>>76501251 (OP)
Too hard and doesn't feed ego.
/fit/cels barely have the strength to swing weights up so their bones can support it, much less actually hold a weight.

TUT - only thing that matters
ISOMETRIC hold - the only way to get it

>BUT HUWHY ARE U SO SUDDENLY AVERSE TO LIFTING HOOMAN ?

simple - i have distilled "work the muscle" part of lifting, >WHAT WILL U CALL IT HOOMAN?
I will name it ..................... holding, good enough :D

>>76502036
>NO BOT, MIDDLE OF THE MOTION BOT, THE ONLY PART WHERE MUSCLE WORKS
you genuinely type like an indian lol, just replace bot with saar

>>76501251 (OP)
>Why did TUT training die?
Many training methods and theories (spot reduction, toning, fasted cardio, partials, high reps, muscle confusion etc etc) died when nerds and dorks entered fitness and replaced empiric training with theoretical training "science", stats, studies and min-maxing, "one size fits all" approaches. Basically, people like on here ruined fitness like they ruin everything.

We now have guys like Jeff Nippard cementing the status quo and stagnating/regressing with their dork crowd and schizos instead of actual people trying and finding out new stuff. Because that could go wrong and people are deathly afraid of being wrong nowadays.

You can see this in any sport, it's part of the communist takeover.

>>76501824
Are you having a fucking stroke?

>>76501325
uhh just use a stopwatch?

>>76501251 (OP)
This is mental illness but not the fun lift up the bar and smash it against the wall kind, the opposite

>>76503094
>We now have guys like Jeff Nippard cementing the status quo
u can't be serious bot :D
>>76504540
muscle gets tired of holding weight/load - thats enough for this set, one more and i'm done with it for today
>>76504543
TUT - only thing that matters
ISOMETRIC hold - the only way to get it

>>76503094
What is the difference between "empiric training" and "stats, studies"? Seems like the same thing.

>>76505569
>What is the difference between "empiric training" and "stats, studies"? Seems like the same thing.
there's a reason physical education is branch of humanities bot - it means fuckall :D
mine:
>>76505524

>>76505708
>it means fuckall
like you do