Thread 76755255

Advice for new runners:
- Build up speed and mileage SLOOOOOWLY (start with 15 minutes, increase mileage at most 10% per week);
- It will feel like you're going slow, you are; don't worry about setting good times for a couple of months;
- If you start to feel pain anywhere, stop and rest;
- Don't try to copy what pros are doing. Do what feels natural; and
- Once you can comfortably roon 6 miles/10km, start thinking about a goal in terms of race distance and time, and look for a training plan for that goal (see below for suggested plans).

>Couch to 5k/Bridge to 10k Guides
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/running-and-aerobic-exercises/get-running-with-couch-to-5k/
https://i.imgur.com/ef98R.png
https://i.imgur.com/qNJIy.png

>I want to run a fast 5k, 10k, half-marathon, or marathon
https://www.runningfastr.com/
https://www.halhigdon.com/
cock and ball torture
https://sites.google.com/view/sub-threshold/home
>I want to stretch
https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/training/beginners/a32172701/how-to-stretch-post-run/

>Performance calculators
https://runbundle.com/tools/age-grading-calculator
https://vdoto2.com/calculator/
https://runrepeat.com/how-do-you-masure-up-the-runners-percentile-calculator
https://lactrace.com/norwegian-singles

previous: >>76738831

>>76755255 (OP)
>>76755255 (OP)
>Advice for new runners:
git ur asshole cancer for free, just roon, give it your best and u will get one

On a rest day. Very much needed. Did 9 days in a row.
Legs always feel shit after a rest day. What's that all about?

15km tempo < 60 mins. Feeling fucking great and fit bros. WAGMI

>>76755304
You're a fast guy

>>76755286
What do you do on a rest day? You don’t have to run but you always need to stay moving or you’ll get stiff.

>>76755255 (OP)
/troon/ general

>>76755353
I'll at least go for a walk. Do some foam rolling and stretching. I think it's the muscles adapting after a hard block of training.
A rest day when you haven't been training hard has no negative effect. Feel good and fresh the next day. I can take a day off before a race and not worry about feeling bad on race day because training has been easy on the taper leading up to the race.

I've been running for 4 months, this is one of my easy runs, however my HR is relatively high, Garmin estimates the top limit of my zone is 140, but I would be almost walking at that rate. 41M.

>>76755380
It it feels easy then don't worry about. Just don't lie to yourself and pretend that it's easy when it's not.

>>76755391
It was easy, I could go over 10k with the same pace

I started c25k on Tuesday. I already lift and do brisk walks daily, so it's not like I'm a complete beginner lardass when it comes to exercise. Just cardio/running.
I've got pretty bad DOMS in my soleus muscles (not my calves, they're fine if not a little tender). The plan was to do day 2 today. Since I haven't really ran before, should I just walk today or should I try to push through the pain? I don't want to crash out from having to recover for two weeks because I pushed myself too hard.

>>76755412
I would skip the run and go to the gym instead. There is no point in risking injury. You don't have to follow c25k exactly, particularly if you are doing other training as well.

>>76755412
I’m a beginner as well, but i’ve been running for a month now. For me, at least, running feeling sore is fine as long as i’m not trying to break any PRs. You’ll find that you stop feeling your sore muscles for a fair bit as soon as you warm up, but when they get tired…hoo boy. I prefer to rest for a day or two, but you do you.

I started running a couple weeks ago. I'm not super out of shape, and I've been following a 5k plan, but at the end of the 2nd week my calves/shins were hurting real bad, and I couldn't finish a run, so I decided to take a few days to rest. 5 days later I started back at week 1 and couldn't manage it. My breathing was obviously better, and I could move faster, but after 15 minutes my leg muscles were aching badly, and my right leg felt like it was trying to give out under me. Do I need more rest, or am I being retarded with technique? Or maybe I need to stretch more and relax the muscles?

If I ran a half-marathon distance twice this week does that mean I ran a marathon?

why I get shin splits and get pain in the upper part of the feet when going at a slower pace? I wanna go on easy longer runs but I cant, I have to pick up the pace to dont feel any of this shit

Ehh, wears Nike andcyellow top.

How can I get stronger in my calves/Achilles tendon?

>>76755544
If there’s less than five minutes between the end of one and the start of the next.

>>76755544
No. You cannot miss any time. You have to continue running the entire 26.2 miles. You cannot even stop at aid stations or even walk. You have to learn how to fold the cup and drink it that way while running.

>>76755456
people always always resting but not doing the rehab. do your rehab whatever that may be. figure it out on dr google or go to a physio. do the rehab.

>>76755559
calf raises + plyos

>>76755550
do fucking answer

>>76755544
I mean sure but you’d have to include the down time as part of your time. So you’d say you ran a marathon and your time was 48 hours.

>>76755550
>>76755618
Shoes too big? Need arch support insoles? Overtrained? Could be a number of things. Running slow uses different muscles vs. pushing pace.

>>76755380
Yeah, it's the same situation for me. I do 6/km at 156 average hr easy pace. I don't worry about it. I assume my hr will drop eventually.

>>76755594
Rehab this *unzips*

>>76755550
Weak muscles. You'll get stronger if you lift or if you keep running.

>>76755708
>Weak muscles.
exactly what muscles?

I got a knee injury from jumping into it too quickly and doing too much. It's been a couple of weeks now. I've run 1 mile twice since then and it flared up both times. How long should I wait before trying again? I don't want to be out of commission for longer than a month if I can help it.

>>76755544
bruh moment

got excited because I finally got my vo2 max into the high level with my apple watch and then i realized it was because of the update.

and then it adjusted my previous runs and i've been there for weeks. which kinda cheapens it a bit but its not like i was incredibly far off to begin with.

guess now ill try to get to the 20-29 high.

>>76755701
unfortunately sir your penis appears to be beyond rehabilitation

Have any of you used Nike's return policy? I'm within the 60 day return period but there is mild dirt in a couple of spots.

>>76755380
mine is dropping. been running since 3 months, 40yo goyim.

>>76755889
Bruh a vo2max in the 20s means you can't even walk without your heart exploding

>>76756032
i meant for 20-29 year olds

>>76755739
This one *unzips*

>>76755560
>he thinks it's a joke
ngmi

>>76755973
They'll survive losing the ability to resell their $5 of cost shoes.

wew lads I'm cooked. ran my first marathon this week
5 miles on monday
9 miles on tuesday
5 miles yesterday
7 miles today
now I can officially call myself a marathoner

>>76756151
You’re not a real rooner until you can manage a sub-4 day marathon.

>>76756184
I wonder how fast I could run a marathon in a week if I split it up whatever way I wanted.
Something like 2 miles hard in the morning, 2 miles hard in the evening. Wouldn't actually be a bad training week.

Ran on the treadmill. Treadmills says it was a 10 minute pace. Watch says it was 9. Which is better?

>>76756028
That's promising, I see you also have considerably higher pace

FUCK YEAH, I BECAME AN ULTRARUNNER LAST WEEK!

>>76756229
What's awful is I still couldn't come close to Kipchoge. You ever think about how you could stand at mi 25.2 wait for Kipchoge and go all out on the last mi and he would still smoke you?

I'm seething. Did my best run in a long while and coach nigGreg keeps losing faith that I'll be able to do 10k in 45:00. 6/16 weeks in and he's doing me dirty.

>>76755380
I don't pay attention to my heart rate, i just time my runs. How fast can i run a mile, how fast can i run a 5k, and rarely do i run close to ten miles or a half marathon. I just try to improve how fast i can run a mile and a 5k.

>>76756565
If you can't accurately predict your own race times based off your training runs then you're not real runner. or your training is mickey mouse in which case you're not a real runner.

>>76756602
>I just try to improve how fast i can run a mile and a 5k
A long run is a basic part of the training for this.

Okay, what pace should I run up hill?

>>76756629
>you're not real runner
It's not like I care but obviously I'm not. I haven't done a full out run since getting back to it, my routine has been easy runs, strides and goal pace efforts. I don't have a race planed and I'm only a few weeks in so no, at the moment I'm not able to tell if I can hit my goal.

My birthday is Saturday so I bought myself a present (or two) :D

>>76756691
Balls deep.

>>76756725
>Adizero
Based
>Ultraboost
Cringe

>>76755330
for you

>>76756740
>ultraboost 12.7oz per shoe
>adizero 8.5oz per shoe
You don’t train with donuts on?

>hmmm today I will carb load
>porridge for breakfast, pasta for lunch, pasta for dinner
>clueless.jpg
>Have to eat a further 300 g of spaghetti to get in touching distance of 8 g/kg carbs
I've run marathons before but never done a full carb load. Is this really helpful? I've gone for the lower end of what's recommended and it still seems like an incredible amount of food. I'm not shy about eating during peak training either.

>>76756707
I didn't mean to sound that harsh. What I meant is anyone can predict their times once they have done enough (a few months) running. You know what different paces feel like and how long you can hold them and what paces you're doing on intervals. Then you should be able to predict a best and worst case time for any distance and it should be a pretty narrow window.

>>76756755
>8.8 oz
No I don't.

>>76756761
are your meals small or are you huge? that's sounds like plenty. I wouldn't worry about hitting exact numbers. just get enough food in

>>76756725
I have the Ultraboost. Good everyday shoe.

>>76756761
Screencapped this post to post on the next keto thread.

>>76756768
It's okay you didn't say anything wrong.
I notice that I'm improving, runs feel better but for some reason it's not transferring well to garmin coach, it doesn't matter much but it would be nice to see the needle move the right direction rather than backwards.

Is running on the treadmill at lunch a waste of my time? It’s the only time I have available for a run

>>76756761
>actually measuring out your carbs
I just eat a bunch of plain donuts, pancakes, waffles, or whatever is offered. One time, I ate twice at IHOP in one day just to carb load for a marathon. Another time, I just ate a bunch of donuts all day. At the time, I landed a PR :).

>>76756818
Nope. You are still getting your one legged hops in. The only difference is you are not going forward and thus not running from something.

Does she mog you?

Hi trooners. I wanna improve my 5k but I seem to be hardstuck around 4:30min/km for any distances longer than a couple kms. Should I kms or is there hope? Should I do shartleks?
Give me your best copes for grandpa-tier rooners such as moi.

>>76756848
Do 10x2k hill repeats at 100m pace every day.

>>76756838
>warms up

>>76756867
>10x2k hill repeats at 100m pace
Idk what that is. Does it mean finding a 2k long hill, running it at the same pace I'd roon a 100m sprint, then running down the hill and repeating the same thing 9 more times?
Sounds like something picrel would do, based.

>>76756880
It means run up the hill that goes 2km up at your 100m pace. Then go back down the hill and repeat it a total of 9 times. To be fast, you gotta go fast.

>>76756886
>40km, half of it sprinting uphill
Brootal.

>>76756867
Someone go do this.

>>76756778
66 kg x 8 g/kg = 528 g of carbs
My meals (prior to dinner) were slightly larger than what I'd eat for maintenance. During training I might eat anywhere from 250 g (rest day) to 440 g (big long run) carbs in a day.

>>76756821
gj champ

>>76756838
her route mogs my route

>>76756848
Yes, trooners here won't like me for telling you this secret, but the trick to running faster is to put your right foot in front of your left foot, then left foot in front of your right foot. Repeat this process faster and faster until you reach your desired pace. Fucking spergs overcomplicate things

>>76757005
Looks pretty sterile and flat australian wasteland which the only redeeming quality is the ocean view.

>>76756838
>Elevation gain: zero

I've just realized that i wasted 5 years in the gym by not eating enough. I have decided to give it up and start running (longer distances 5k+) with the intention of becoming semi elite. How doable would this be? 22 Male, 186cm, 65 kg, untrained 5k time: 30min

>>76757058
If you have to ask, impossible

>>76757058
>untrained 5k time: 30min
That's worse than my untrained time when I smoked a pack a day, slept 3-5 hours a night and got terribly drunk on the weekends.

>>76757094
well i ran it 5 years ago, before i had done any strength training. for the past 5 years i've been going to the gym for 5-6 days per week so i'd imagine i've gotten some sort of aerobic increase.

>>76757099
Doubtful, but why don't you just go for a roon and find out?

Hit my 9th 100+mile month in a row, and it’s officially 1 month to the day until Philadelphia Marathon

>>76757121
Based runcel

>>76757119
i will, running a mile to see what time i get on saturday

>>76757134
Why not 5k? You already have your previous benchmark and it will give you a better indication of your endurance.

>>76757099
hope you at least trained you legs in those 5 years.
just start running and set a realistic short term goal like 25 min 5k. none of this semi elite bullshit. google some 10 week training plan and follow it.

>>76757141
Testing for inherent speed. Apparently it's a good indicator for long distance elites. Aerobic ability can be built up over time but speed is harder.

>>76757152
meant for
>>76757141

>>76757155
Do you man, but sounds like you're putting the cart before the horse here.

>>76756838
>tacticool outfit
>warmup
>filming it
>not even sub 5 min pace
SAD

>>76757058
>intention of becoming semi elite
>untrained time 30 mins
lmao

>>76756838
I'm fairly new to running and I've been wondering, what's the obsession with runners choosing the most faggy eyewear possible?

>>76757309
Wait till you run face first through a swarm of bugs, and they get stuck to your face because of the sweat, and they they start crawling into your eyes

>>76757349
I don't live in Florida so that's not a big concern for me, also I fail to see how that justifies such obnoxious faggotry

>>76757058
at 22 you're made of god's own substance. get out there my man

Just got back into rooning for the first time since like highschool. Fucking bizarre how much people talk about shit like vo2max, zones, tempo runs, cadences, gels, and all this other weird technical shit that nobody cared about 20 years ago. It's like a big gay cult like cycling. What happened?

>Crushed a 90 minute half marathon on Saturday
>Brain/CNS is still fried on Thursday

>>76755565
This but unironically. If you stop for any reason other than the most painful explosive diarrhea imaginable you fail the run

>>76757356
I live on the opposite end of the country and if you run in certain times of the day in certain seasons there are all kinds of bugs in the air. I've seen people go rollerblading with full plastic face shields some days because there's so many bugs flying at face level.

>>76756838
i need coochie so bad its unreal

Just bought some new shoes for my 5k fun run.

>>76757058
Too late. Speed comes from high school XC. You will never be as fast as you could have been. 30 min 5k is fine if you don't run but no semi-elite runner has ran that slow in their life

>>76757439
Retards on the internet have theorycrafted the BIS minmaxed strats for literally everything but then don't even have the willpower to do basic shit regularly.

>>76757439
Nike happened. I blame the breaking 3 challenge. But also all that stuff is a big part of advanced marathoning which is from like 2001 and has been popular a long time

>>76757439
Daniels Running Formula came out in 1998 with all of the vo2max, hr zones, tempo run, and cadence stuff. none of that is new
you're right about the consumerist stuff though, that's been kicked into overdrive

/fat/ graduate here, finally hit 24.9 BMI last week and just now I set a PB of under 30 min 5k, 27:56 to be exact. I want to thank the Academy, /fit/, /fat/, and /roon/

>>76757058
If you devote your life and have a decent amount of money, you can become elite even though you're starting a bit late.

How do I figure out what width shoe I need to wear? There is a size chart for length but not for width.

How do I determine what a good weight for running I need to be?
Right now I’m 195ish at 5’11 but I’m pudgy
Should I aim for 175-180ish?

>>76757439
Yeah did cross country and track for 4 years in high school 15 years ago and never heard a fucking thing about “zone 2” running and gels
What the fuck is this shit

>>76757670
"good weight" is lowest possible while maintaining leg strength. The top elites are all spooky skellies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llqlY_M4VKk

Oh no! Another elite runner busted! Who would have thought?

>>76757626
very nice, well done

>>76758025
That was months ago. We’ve all moved on

>>76757626
grats dude, keep going

>>76757657
The Brannock Device is almost 100 years old at this point. Sadly no-one but dress-shoemakers use the alphabetical last width indicators in their sizing.
There are these feet scanners by the company Volumental in some big box stores. They are free to use and you get your scans and shoe recommendations in your email. It's pretty cool. I had woolly socks on when I did mine so the recs are all oversized but dang isn't it neat. I wish I could DL the 3d files so I could 3d print some silly shoes or make a custom last.

Australian alert:
Rebel Sports flash sale, 20% off everything online until midnight
Get them running shoes on a discount m80s

>>76757439
normies started running and they post about this shit everywhere. back in the day this nerd shit was confined to running forums.

>>76758181
>it's real
thanks!

>>76755412
>I pushed myself too hard
You are doing it wrong. You must slow down. After intervals you should feel that you can run atleast 1 or 2 more intervals.

when is too late to start running...

>>76757439
Datafags have ruined most hobbies. This is why I hate HR based programs.

>>76758548
when the sea levels have risen too much and
The ice we skate is gettin' pretty thin
The water's gettin' warm, so you might as well swim
My world's on fire, how 'bout yours?
That's the way I like it, and I'll never get bored
Hey now, you're an all-star
Get your game on, go play
Hey now, you're a rock star
Get the show on, get paid
(All that glitters is gold)
Only shootin' stars break the mold

>>76758548
My mom is 65 and only started running half marathons last year. She even placed third in her division at a nearby HM. Start now and you can enjoy good gains in old age.

Time of day though, I try to limit my runs to no more than 1 hour of running past dark.

Felt so good after rest day yesterday. did a hyrox workout
5 rounds
2min run
sled push
2min run
wall balls
no recoveries straight through til you're done. absolutely cruising at 3:40/km on the runs. we're fucking BACK

>>76757439
People online like to talk about things they like, even getting into really autistic details. Don’t worry about it. It’s not a threat to you.

What would you prefer?

>I ran today
>I also ran today
>how fast did you run?
>pretty fast I guess
>I would like to be able to run faster
>You should try moving your feet faster

>>76758216
>back in the day this nerd shit was confined to running forums.
Yeah, it’s not new by any stretch, though training knowledge has definitely trickled down from the pros. In high school cross country twenty years ago, we didn’t know anything about nutrition and were basically told to run as hard as possible for as long as possible. That was the whole of our training.

>>76756306
I trust the treadmill more but I had nothing to base that on

>>76755380
Went for a longer run today. Speed and average HR are virtually the same, but I noticed there was no gradual increase towards the end of the session, the rate remained stable throughout the whole run.
It was also very windy with light rain so my pace varied a lot.

>>76758571
Mine is 63 and did halves up until last year when she started having hip issues. She had to have a hip replacement surgery this year. She's still having issues with running and the doctor told her the replacement isn't going to last long if she runs, so she hasn't been. The cool thing is that she may get into cycling.

>>76758797
>you should try warming up
>you should be a z5 chad
>how did you warm-up in z1 for 2 hours before doing an hour long z2 workout?
>10xhill repeats at 100m pace is the best workout
>tfw no norwegian singles in my area

>>76758882
This is why I go by time on the treadmill. It could possibly be not calibrated as well.

So, last week I started my couch to 5k. I'm at the last day of the second week and I've got so much pain in my knees I can't sleep, and can barely move around without clinging to the wall like a disabled spiderman.

Will the joint pain go away if I just push through?

>>76759167
>I've got so much pain in my knees I can't sleep, and can barely move around without clinging to the wall like a disabled spiderman.
stop running for fuck sake. rest and do some low impact training. then see how it is.

>>76758025
What's happening with the quality lately? They can't afford any more bribes or proper chemists? Dark days for professional sports and athletics.

>>76758548
Never too late unless you mean you want to go to the olympics.

>>76756306
Watches rely on GPS for pace. Estimates from accelerometers aren't going to be as accurate.

>>76758966
Your HR won't increase if the amount of effort you're putting in decreases. Maybe downhill or wind pushing you at the end? Your pace does also decrease a bit at the end.

>>76759167
No, you can walk if you want, don't run. Also, probably don't use ice or anti-inflammatories if recent studies are to be believed. Compression, elevation might still be useful.

>>76757553
You and me both. It's been two fucking years and I'm afraid to go back to whores because I don't want to get hpv or some other dst

>>76759203
>>76759236
I'll do some other kind of cardio then and try again next week. Maybe an exercise bike or something else that won't impact my knees.

I hate how fat I've become more than the pain bothers me, so I can't stop.

>>76759381
it's the consistency that makes the difference. little bit every day and before you know it you're after getting fit. don't fuck it up by stupidly getting injured.

Hypothetically speaking if I roon a full marathon on an empty stomach, that will be like 3000 kcal burned from PURE FAT right???? So will I lose like 0.5 pound of fat since thats about 3000kcal???

>>76759441
>full marathon on an empty stomach
More likely you're going keel over and faint long before nearing the finish

>>76759441
>PURE FAT
lol, no. Your body utilizes glycogen as well.

>>76758966
Headwind on the first 18 minutos and tailwind on the next 18, the rest was more sidewind

How would you guys go about structuring a plan to run 10km under 49mins in a year. Now i can run like 5km in around 6:10 a min, i can probably run even longer easily at that pace but havent really tried just done 5km basic runs for around 2 months

>>76759441
Yes, but there is alsoextraction and salt limitations. People just faint if you go over the ketone and glycogen extraction,

>>76759234
Headwind on the first 18 minutos and tailwind on the next 18, the rest was more sidewind

>>76759517
4 runs per week
two easy runs
one long run
one interval workout

eventually get your long run up to 15km
do your easy runs easy
intervals at or faster than race pace

add another easy run after a while
this easy runs becomes a second interval workout when you are fit enough
a couple of months of this 5 days per week then smash you 10k
do a 5k race somewhere in the middle to keep it interesting

>>76759441
then you binge 5000 calories for the next 3 days

Hear me out, why shouldn't I listen to lesbian porn on my runs for a test boost?

>>76759677
This - old school simplicity that works.
Novices would save themselves a lot grief following this sort of plan with a bit of patience.
t. Quite quick off this structure years ago

The park was dead empty today but I had a lovely run. Dark, light rain, full moon covered by the fog, tons of oak leaves everywhere.
I love autumn so much.

>roon break for 3 weeks because lower back pain
>roon
>5k 30mins
>need to nap 30 mins
>feel groogy brainfog
>depressive nothing is fun

just shoot me.

>>76759759
Has anyone considered the aerodynamic effects of maintaining an erection while running? Seems like pitching a tent may reduce wind resistance. Win-win

>>76759859
Chin up, king.

>foreskin went dark mid run
G*rmin was a mistake.

it's joogin time

>>76756725
HNGGGGGGG

define "elite"

>>76760152
National representation, appearances in the diamond league circus or world tour A-races, agent to get you into those, get paid appearance fees, major equipment sponsorship.

>>76759677
corr

propa good wun diss

>>76760140
why do they call it the adiZERO

>Buy long ass foam roller
>Walk home lugging it over shoulder
>All the cars and people passing by look and grin
Why...

I am going to run the 2026 Chicago Marathon in under 3 hours

do you wear a smart/running watch?

>>76760720
When running, yes

>>76760743
>>76760720
>>76760589
remember kids, FIRST POST BEST POST :d
>>76755262
>>Advice for new runners:
>git ur asshole cancer for free, just roon, give it your best and u will get one

u gotta die of sth eventually, asshole cancer sounds so appealing right?
even better than heart attack cause it could last YEARS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_heart_syndrome

>>76760720
All the time.

>keep getting running videos shown to me on reels
>Much if it is women complaining that men are calling them slow
>Comments are full of women agreeing with the video “I’ve been running for years and my 5K time is 40 minutes. There’s no way I could ever go faster.”
I know for a fact that at a non-elite level women are actually highly capable of matching the times of male runners.
Is it just that women are more likely to mentally block themselves from actually training properly than men?

I bought my first pair of shoes with a plate (Saucony Endorphin Trainer) and holy fuck these shoes feel fast. I've only ever worn pigfat stability shoes before.

>>76755708
Nta but I squat 250kg and have the same issue

>>76761058
you watch junk slop then your feed gets filled with junk slop
plenty of women out there training hard and running fast and not crying in the comments

>>76756838

Waste of time and joint health

I used to be in the sweet spot of mental illness where I just needed to run so much all the time. Now I'm in the sour spot of mental illness where running is impossible and what the point it's been months I've lost all my gainz anyway and any time I do run I go too hard and am in pain for days afterwards.
Why does cardio fitness have to be such a high maintenance girlfriend? Lifting would never do this to me.

>>76760743
>>76761039
which one? a garmin?
i kinda want to get one but i wanted to hear you guys first

>>76761527
What kind of functions do you want it for? Personally I have a Polar Pacer, the only function I really care about is heart rate zone tracking and Not Being Insanely Expensive, and on that front it does the job. I think Garmin's supposed to be more accurate though.

What are the best running exercises to get better at football?

>>76761313
Squats don't train calves. Rippetoe is a fat cuckold.

>>76760720
Never, phone in ass pocket is good enough and a Casio watch in stopwatch mode

>>76761527
I can say not a Garmin Forerunner 935. That's what I've had for the past 5 years and it sucks. The only reason I still use it is because I want to make sure it's dead before I get a new one.

>>76761606
Pacer Pro user here. Polars are good if you aren't after all sorts of convoluted metrics of dubious utility (looking at you, Garmin).
I am yet to be convinced that there is a huge difference between the performance of the various led based systems. They are all terrible at capturing quick changes in HR. As a test go out and run a set of 100 or 200m efforts on LED. Then, if you have one, do the same with a chest band on (H10 or similar). Huge difference.

>>76761742
Bought running pants with ass pocket this week and put my phone there and it would bounce so much that it would constantly pull down the back of my pants despite them sitting on well...

is there a simple routine to train ankle and shin strength? I can only run 11-12 mins on concrete before one of them gets too sore to continue

>>76761885
this and all the variants

>>76761830
I never carry my phone but if I did I would buy this style of shorts

>>76761527
Got a used forerunner 165. Couldn't have been used much since it released recently. Looks like new. Probably don't need all the features.

do cardiofags really?

>>76755255 (OP)
Got muh first 5 k in an hour.
Its cold and rainy. Do I just wear a garbage bag or will that look autistic?

>>76761921
nope, dunno why yet but heel hook with extended ankle helped, it also grows gastronemius like nothing else https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8

>but the picture
i am certain it will fuck u up - don't ask how i know, otherwise i will tell you

>>76762184
buy a cheap waterproof jacket. you'll find one for 30 bucks somewhere

>>76761885
Single leg calf raises on steps, single leg hops, X-hops, just make sure you warm up properly and don't run past the point of pain. If you're still getting soreness after a programme of strength and conditioning work, consider that you might need podiatry intervention.

>>76760957
Fatsprinted at the start of my 1 mile time trial again. Not as bad as last time, at least. I got 7:11 instead of 7:20 this time. It was like 43f/6C, so pretty cold. My right groin is still a little strained.

>>76762269
>Single leg calf raises on steps, single leg hops, X-hops, just make sure you warm up properly and don't run past the point of pain.
except endorphis will make u feel no pain while u fuck yourself up merrily
>you might need podiatry intervention
u will need one after this selection of idiocy
>>76762202
>dunno why yet but heel hook with extended ankle helped, it also grows gastronemius like nothing else
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
>>76755262
>>76760957

>>76761665
To get better at football, focus on exercises that improve speed, agility, and endurance, such as hill sprints, interval training, shuttle runs, and cone drills. Incorporate agility drills like ladder drills and lateral hurdle shuffles to enhance change-of-direction ability, and consider exercises like sled pulls to build explosive power and strength.

>>76762202
>(Phonk House Version) (Slowed)
Only nazis slow down music in their videos if journalists are to be believed, therefore I won't do this exercise.

Has anyone tried going on a run while high on weed?

>>76762311
Retard

>>76762330
Weed gives you AIDS

>>76762184
Eh, just deal with the wetness. If it’s raining hard, a jacket will get soaked anyway. If it’s a light rain, it’s 30ish minutes of being outside. Just have some dry clothes and a towel in the car.

>>76762330
It’s ok, I don’t think it made running better or worse. A gummie after a long run is nice though.

leg hurts worse even today

>>76762265
>>76762184
Here i'd go to the nearest sport type outlet
And snag a somewhat rain resistant one. And maybe some pants

>>76762504
>a jacket will get soaked anyway
Not hard to find a jacket that water bounces off.

Running is a good athletic activity. On its own, it's kind of deficient, though. The marathon gold medalists are spooky skeletons. They're sacrificing their upper bodies, kind of degenerate. Reminds me of people breeding pugs for one specific thing, and now the entire breed can't even perform the most basic function of breathing. Can you really call someone like Kipchoge an athlete or just a runner?

Triathlon is better as a sport since you need some upper body function to swim.

Pentathlon is very good, even better that they're removing horse riding. Laser pistols are kind of dumb, and they should add rowing for more upper body focus. Pentathlon should get more attention over skellierunning.

>>76762599
Anyway, we need some full body events to become popular instead of just footraces. The question is what form that would take. Running is very cheap, you just need shoes. Obviously, you can't expect fencing from the general public or laser pistol shooting. Rowing is too terrain specific. How do (you) add in a portion after the running to evaluate upper body strength and general complete body fitness that is almost as accessible as just running?

>>76762612
Go do a decathlon. Will need to learn to vault though.

>>76762612
Speed climbing is based.

Was hoping for 10 miles but felt the IT band starting to flair up and turned off early. Still working back up the distance, I’ll see if I can get 10 next weekend.
>chilly rainy run
>lots of nods from runners

>marathon just got cancelled...again
>no virtual option
>will mail out swag and only get "lol, 40% deferment for next year!!!"
OBX marathon is shit anymore with Debbie taking over OBXSE. Avoid, bros.

>2024
Was canceled and everyone deferred to half.
>2023
Absolute shit new course which half is not even in the OBX. Absolute shit logistics, late start in very cold rain.
>2022 and 2021
Unable to attend due to work committments.
>2020
Was only done virtually despite many other marathons finding contingencies to run in person races.
>2019
The last year the marathon was actually good.

Doing my weekend long tomorrow.. took 1000mg magnesium glycinate tonight and I’m absolutely SPRAYING the bowl. Will this help me avoid the trots tomorrow?

>>76761830
Get a mesh running belt with a bungee cord system. Camelbak makes a good one, but loads of other options out there.

sunday jog. fucking cooked lads

>>76761830
Oof, zip pocket? If not, you could get someone to add a zip onto them for you

My half race. 1:30:27 after getting past the start line.
Do you think sub-3 for a full marathon is within reach next fall running in Chicago again on flat ground?

>>76756838
I dont appreciate how lust inducing this video was from beginning to end

>>76763874
I thought citrate was the one that gave the shits

>>76762352
>Retard
that's your owner bot

>>76762311

>>76764262
Yes. I reckon you need to be in at least 1:24 HM (4'00/km pace) shape to pull off a sub 3, which you could achieve in a year.

Flat city marathon is the shittiest race type for an amateur. Any other distance above and below is better than this triathlon-tier trash.

Going for a fasted 22k now.