Thread 105574924

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/z7DMsgQV

Previous: >>105569368

First for PrebuiltGODS

Odds of the 5080 Super having good supply? Zero?

>>105574993
Probably gonna be 2k or so, with that price supply should not be much of an issue.

>>105574913
Logitech G Pro X wired. I have that one and it's great

>>105575016
Than you can just get a 5090

>>105574993
Scalped instantly to $2000+
Meanwhile 9070 XTX will be 800 to 900 and have good supply with similar performance.

>>105575033
Well, depends. Can go up in price again, or they just make the yet another -100$ to next better model, so instead of buying 5080 you will be buying 5090.

are mainboards with plugs on the backsite finally a thing? Its been almost a decade since they showcased their prototypes.

>>105575043
>9070 XTX
16GB btw

This is the endsieg radeon xisters. Final victory over shartwell soon.

>>105575092
>15.92GB

>>105575108
They could give you 64 gigs, without cuda who cares.

>>105575108
>450W POWER

>>105575108
And it will still have no support.

>>105574723
posting this here as we hit limits on the old thread

>>105575269
If you need it for paid work, get the 9900X now.

>>105575043
>Meanwhile 9070 XTX will be 800 to 900 and have good supply with similar performance.
Because that worked so well with the 599 msrp. I'm sure you won't be paying a grand for a worse GPU than a 5070.

>>105575081
wouldnt this force you to buy specific cases that support this? Seems rather niche

I still can’t find any good reason to upgrade from my Ryzen 5950X and EVGA RTX 3090ti FTW Ultra.

>>105575667
Nope I just bought a cheap Chinese case that proudly claimed it was ready for this

>>105574924 (OP)
where can i learn more about components? like how tf am i supposed to know which motherboard to get for example

>>105575512
so done with these fucking driver issues on my rtx 5070. Just after making that post dunking on that retarded AMDrone my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 fuck it idc anymore.

>got a 50 series gpu
>install drivers
>as soon as it finishes it freezes the pc
>reboot -> gets past login screen -> loads desktop freezes
>google keeps sending me to reddit threads
>reddit threads have the same issue but the retards keep obsessing over what PSU OP has
maybe i'm not waiting long enough because it hasn't black screened like others but do i need to update the vbios? beta drivers dont work either and shitty MSI motherboard doesnt let me switch top slot to PCIE gen 2 like some have tried because i have a PCIE gen 2 slot lower down but i can't fit the gpu there
fucking annoying, ran from AMD because of drivers only to get fucked by nvidia drivers

>>105575825
>fucking annoying, ran from AMD because of drivers only to get fucked by nvidia drivers
It's literally the opposite now and you deserve this for betraying the radeon master race and buying njudea. No one help this retarded faggot he is reaping what he sowed. RMA the card get a refund and buy a 9070 XT or fuck off and suffer with your novideo drivers.

>>105575891
Never getting fixed btw. Ngreedia does not care about GeForce drivers anymore and they are coded by AI

>>105575891
>>105575908
Have fun with terrible frame times in cpu bottlenecked games due to broken rebar as well

>>105575825
which 50 card? for 80/90 572.83 is stable but with increased DPC latency over time. I think blackscreens are more common for 70 and downwards? You could try here the vulcan drivers as some say they work better than the regular ones.

>>105575932
>>105575937

>>105575934
a puny little 5060
>You could try here the vulcan drivers as some say they work better than the regular ones.
is that for linux or something? where do i find those?

>>105575937
>rtx 3080
>f1 2020
this shit is 4-5 years old
is does it still look like this?

>>105575991
the dev beta driver for vulkan you can get here https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver but when I search for black screen on the 5060 they also mention the vbios update but the description mentions
>This update should only be applied if blank screens are occurring on reboot.
which doesn't seem to be the case here.

>>105575825
>>105575934
a little more info would help: full setup, os and version, what gayme, etc
psu is always important, even if its not a housefire gpu, if you dont feed it the eleggtric power it needs its gonna bitch and moan until you do the right thing

Princess Celestia will save us. Trust in Intel Arc.

>>105575825
>>105575991
5060 is a terrible card, you will regret it in a year if you keep it. If you still can return it and get 9060 XT 16GB for 50 dollars more do so. There is still lots of MSRP stock.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_oV9TKa5wIM

>>105574924 (OP)
Aren't y'all tired enough of this op to do something about it

>>105576125
msi b350m arctic mortar
r5 1600x
32GB ddr4 3200mhz but board is limited to something lower
620W seasonic PSU
msi 5060 on both main and beta
Windows 10 22H2
>what gayme
windows desktop for more than 2 seconds
crashed when i just tried to replace my old GPU and DDUing the old drivers and did so even after windows restore while keeping user data

Is it a good idea to get a used 4070 Super for 500 euro while I wait for the market to settle down here in Europe? My 1080 is just too old now, 5000 series is too expensive, 4070 Ti Supers are unfindable below 800 euro. My plan is to get the 4070S for 500 now and resell it for 250-300 in like 2028-29 when hopefully Nvidia will have a midrange 6000 card or AMD will have upped their game.

>>105575825
This is why you just do a prebuilt, because it just works and if it doesn't it's someone elses problem not yours.

is $800 for the Zephyrus g14 (2023) a good deal?

16gb ram but planning to upgrade
4060 8gb card

>>105575735
Reddit threads

>>105576188
>5060 is a terrible card, you will regret it in a year if you keep it
i've waited too long, 5060 should've been a vram change but wasn't, i dont want to wait for another gen
>If you still can return it and get 9060 XT 16GB for 50 dollars more do so
100€ more and honestly i really dont care, im not playing the latest games, as long as it gets me 60fps on more modern titles im fine with it. it'll be bottlenecked by the CPU anyway

>>105576416
>as long as it gets me 60fps on more modern titles im fine with it
lol

>>105576423
yes anon, it wont do 60fps on ultra settings, that even 5090s struggle in, because the vram fills up
but my current card wont do 30fps on lowest with upscaling out the ass

I just bought a 9800x3D with the accompanying components to move to AM5. I don't even need this thing. wtf is wrong with me.

I'm buying a used $300 budget PC build that includes some peripherals. looked at all the parts and to build it new costs at least 600/700. thinking of just swapping out the gpu since its outdated/weak. is a budget PC build with a mid-level gpu a good idea?? I'm not using the PC for anything super intensive, just need a desktop since my laptop is breaking down

>>105575043
>>105575108
>believing MLID

>>105574924 (OP)
is there porn of her

there's no AMD equivalent upgrade from a 4080 super right?
Also, is this combo good? The ram is free.

>>105575108
wasn't the 9070 supposed to be their top of the line since they where going out of the high end market?

>>105576565
Make sure you update the BIOS to tame the PBO current delivery, board is good.
You might have to downclock that EXPO/XMP memory speed down to 6000 or 6200MT/s if your CPU's memory controller can't run it in 1:1 mode.
It's a decent memory kit.

Is there a chance of my GPU exploding if I play a game that requires 100% of it?

>Runs new games with max settings worse than the 4 year old predecessor
This is as bad of a scam as the gtx 1060 3gb wtf

Is 1440p worth it if all I play is esports? I've heard some people say its an advantage. However I could probably put the extra money from the better gpu into the rest of the system if all I'm playing is cs2/valorant which can hit 200 consistently with cheaper cards. I have a gaming projector for more casual games so I'm not locked into 1440p, just strictly competitive shooters. I've heard people say it helps click heads even in stretched res

>520€
vs
>770€
What went so wrong with this gen?

>>105575108
That's not going to happen. Navi 48 a.k.a RX 9070/9070XT is the big version of Navi 4 silicon.
>>105574993
There will not be a super refresh. All customer-tier Blackwell SKUs is what Nvidia is going provide for its lifecycle. You will have wait until Blackwell's successor for a refresh. Nvidia is just slowly but surely moving away discrete gayming GPUs into ML/AI, general compute ASICs. The only graphical stuff that will remain are professional SKUs and rejects that get sold as gayming SKUs for hobbyists (gimped VRAM capacity to prevent them from use in production)

>>105574924 (OP)
It's built! What next? Lurking in 32 threads simultaneously?
Also: post your HWINFO summaries.

>>105577032
based 4090 chad laughing at blackwell cucks and their melting 5090s

Is 1440p 32 inch ok if I sit 6 feet away from my screen?

>>105577046
I put a temp sensor in between the wires close to the connector just to be sure. Currently 26°C. Usually 30°C while gaming.

>>105577117
you should be okay. 12vhpr is an unsafe piece of shit but 4090 especially if you undervolt shouldn't be drawing enough power for it to be a problem. lmao at all the retards that paid $2000+ for a 5090 which is guaranteed to fail at some point since it's overloading it's connector with no safety margin all the time.

Fuck the 4090FE I was on the fence about just sold for $1800. There's a 4090 ROG Strix for sale for the same price and now I'm tempted to go for that one.

>>105577273
Just buy a fucking 5090 at that point for 2700 you retard why are you spending so much on a 3 year old video card

>>105577032
>9950x3d
based. boost it to 5.95ghz for me anon.

>>105577311
5090's cost $4000 here, compared to $1800 for a used 4090.....

>>105577104
Yes

>>105577328
Would 4k look significantly better in that situation or would I not be able to notice much of a difference?

>>105577321
Apologies for being rude, that's reasonable then if it's half the price, get the strix you'll need as much cooling as you possibly can, plus you'll get a nicer OC over FE.

will 5090 prices drop any further or is $3K the best it will get?

>>105577340
>Would 4k look significantly better in that situation
No

Why doesn't Microcenter deliver? It's not fair I live two hours away.

how close are the next gpu/cpu releases? should i just build a computer now?"

AAHHHH POORFAG AM I NO LONGER

>>105577311
>Pay 67% more money for 30% more performance and a card that has a higher risk of melting
Even if he could get one for that much the only retard would be you

>>105577421
Not just 30% performance but moar vram and 2 slot FE, smaller card than 4090FE is worth it in my opinion. you're already a retard wasting your money buying the top of the shelf card, get the better one if budget is not an issue.

>>105575319
how come? runs higher clocks on rdna3, and cooler

>>105577412
Gz Anon what are u gonna do with it

>>105577454
Browse 4chan mostly, video games suck right now.

Is there a way to make one core clock much higher and then clock the other cores lower to conserve power and force a program to only run on that core

>>105577460
No. Just use PBO. You could use Curve Optimizer to put less power into one CCD but that's about it unless there's some ryzen master autism i'm not aware of.

>>105577459
True. Could play around with LLMs n shiet with that much VRAM. /g/ is flooded with AI threads that you'll probably find helpful.

>>105577319
For the time being I activated PBO -20 + Curve Optimizer. Not yet had time to play with all settings, there are so many. It clocks to 5750MHz single max like this. Cinebench picrel. No throttling, 76°C max with an ALF 3 420@1400RPM, pump @2200RPM. Disabling AMD integrated graphics wasn't exactly intuitive with ASRock's BIOS, it was buried deep in entries that tell me nothing. You guys all disable it, right? It steals 2GB of your RAM if not.

>>105577454
DOTA 2

>>105577487
I wish I had gotten a CPU with less cores i was thinking about it and the 9950x3d has 16 cores and 4.3ghz but then each core only has 0.29 ghz.

Maybe I should have got a 4 core one so each core has over a ghz.

>>105576318
i forgot to reply back
what did you have installed before the new gpu, did you have any issues with it?
do you have the latest bios for the mobo?
that mobo has gen 3 pci yet you are using gen 2 why is that
you complain about amd drivers yet you are still having issues with a different card
im 99% sure its either something else (psu, mobo,ram) or skill issue
what edition of windows you have?
version doesnt matter, if you have the newest version but home edition then its retarded
if i were you i would try some windows live cd and test stuff, whatever windows abomination you have installed is probably fucked by now too
tldr just format and install win10 lstc and start from scratch, if you still have issues there then its 100% a hardware issue (outside gpus)

>>105577412
That's a good price, even for the glowing hot FE.

>>105577527
You have the 9950x3d? You can use "x3d" mode to disable half your cores and cut your power draw down. You can also undervolt. There are tutorials online but I'll try to explain. You can offset the core in bios by a certain amount of voltage. negative .15v on the core offset is generally good for lowering temps. Undervolt it by doing a negative 10 curve optimizer. then do 15. then try 20. each time you undervolt further you should stress test your CPU to see if it's stable with like Cinebench or something. Your PC will crash and reboot if it's unstable but it will be fine. -30 curve optimizer is generally considered aggressive. Check out some tutorials. If you fuck up, you'll just need to clear the CMOS or at worst reflash your BIOS. Good luck! I have a 9950x3d undervolted -25 with an OC +200mhz and I get 5800mhz on my single core for games while only pulling 70 to 100watts while playing a game. I love how power efficient you can tweak your rig, I can get obssessed over adjusting voltages. You also won't lose much performancee either if you really get into it.

>>105577500
>You guys all disable it, right?
My MSI x870e automatically disables the IGPU when it detects a video card in the slot. Helps if you have an issue with the video card and you're unable to get into your integrated graphics.

what sort of $/TB should I be paying for a high capacity HDD that (probably) won't die in 10 years?

>>105577654
buy a 16tb enterprise drive for 180-300 bucks like me. depends on the brand/model you trust.

>>105577643
> My MSI x870e automatically disables the IGPU when it detects a video card in the slot
ASRock too should make this the default. I wonder how many even find the setting in their BIOS.

>>105577643
>My MSI x870e
Which one? Please don't say the white one.

>>105577672
tomahawk, why not the white one? i don't have a white case anyway

>>105577678
I just don't like white that's all I want an all black setup no gaybg shit.

>>105577660
€320 for Toshiba Cloud-Scale Capacity 20TB (MG10ACA20TE) here in the failing state of Germoney. It won't save us.
..

I'm confused, for my 300W card do I want to use the 12VHPWR direct to PSU or do I want to use the adapter that splits it into 3 8 pins? I was under the impression it only mattered for the 450W cards and only really mattered for the 600W ones?

>>105577704
why did you get a 12VHPWR connector GPU anon?

>>105577704
why did you get a gpu with a housefire connector if you can research shit?

>>105577704
> the 12VHPWR direct to PSU or do I want to use the adapter that splits it into 3 8 pins?
The adapter splits into two PCIe connectors on the PSU side for older PSUs like my Dark Power Pro 11. The three 8-pin are the alternative to the ONE 12VHPWR on the GPU side.

>>105577528
>what did you have installed before the new gpu, did you have any issues with it?
1070 without issues
>do you have the latest bios for the mobo?
no it's on a 2022 bios
>that mobo has gen 3 pci yet you are using gen 2 why is that
Im using Gen 3, i was saying people with issues similar to mine had a workaround of using Gen 2 but i cant make the top slot Gen 2 and GPU wont fit where the Gen 2 slot is
>you complain about amd drivers yet you are still having issues with a different card
because i had/have issues with my old r9 280 and r5 2500u/rx 540 laptop
>what edition of windows you have?
Pro

>>105577740
so it's just for older GPUs, there is no reason whatsoever to not use HPWR <-> HPWR if your PSU supports it?

>>105577704
>do I want to use the 12VHPWR direct to PSU
Yes

>>105577753
there is no reason to get HPWR PS and GPU tho. it's a cost saving measure, it's not for your benefit.

>>105577164
the 5090 easily undervolts to below 400w

>>105577740
>>105577704
I got this one for my 4090. Works cool.

>>105577760
>pay for 500W card, use 400W
do nvidiots really?
>else it burns down bruh
not my problem

>>105577759
buying a pcie 8pin GPU is also a compromise and cost saving measure

>>105577768
it performs better when undervolted

>>105577753
Older or newer. Some 9070XT have 3x8-pin instead of 12VHPWR. You need an adapter if your GPU has 12VHPWR but your PSU has not yet the single connector for it.

>>105577412
where the fuck are you buying a 5090 for 2K? Everywhere I look is atleast 3K

>>105577753
*older PSUs

>>105577772
no it's not, you buy it so it doesn't burn your connectors. not to save money. how are they cheaper?

>>105577753
>>105577790
yes

>>105577784
>yet
holy shit consumers are so fucking retarded. that is not for your benefit, it's shit. 24V would be a benefit for you, not cramming a lot of power in same fucking wires. consumers are fucking retarded and you're getting an attitude after listening to marketing slop. 12VHPWR is not fucking better you retards

>>105577810
the only cards with them now are inferior performance

>>105577742
>do you have the latest bios for the mobo?
>no it's on a 2022 bios
i would like to say you can start from here but you didnt have issues before so
>>105577742
>Pro
a week ago some retard was having drivers issues because he had a vanilla os like (you) and they were getting installed by windows update no matter what he did (he also upgraded the gpu if i remember right)
if i were you i would just grab a spare hdd/ssd and install ltsc and test shit from scratch
youre not going anywhere from where you stand right now

>>105577681
lemao I thought the exact same way. I didn't pay extra for white components, put everything into performance over looks and RGB.

>>105577822
>a lot of power
meant current

>>105577823
that's not how it works you moron

>>105577838
that’s clearly how it works, if you want 8 pin you have to compromise your own performance

>>105577842
>compromise your own performance
aesthetic*

>>105577842
you can OC XTX to over 1000W on three 8pin connectors, which should normally be rated for max 450W total for all three. yet a 12VHPWR connector burns down at 500W.
you are worse off with a single shit 12VPHWR connector. that is the inferior option and if you pay for it you are being played my friend
retards get 5090s and they undervolt them so their connectors doesn't melt the fuck down lmao this is a fucking joke
retards like you are pushing this shit onto consumers buy buying them like retards after getting high on marketing slop

>>105577862
a 1000w OC 7900XTX can’t even touch a 4090 let alone even an undervolted 5090

>>105577862
>a 7900 xtx is good
kek

>>105577704
Use the one that comes with your PSU. Don't use the 8pin adapter, that's for if you're trying to hook it into an older PSU but I honestly don't think it's a good idea to have 2 links that could fail.

oh so it was him
shouldnt have bothered replying to it

>>105577822
It is like it is. I didn't buy a new PSU just because of this, I use an adapter that works flawlessly.

>>105577862
>JUST USE 1000W TO MATCH YOUR 5090 PULLING 350 BRO
AMDrones are delusional troons

>>105577866
doesn't matter, you can't do shit to a 5090, like at all. you can't even use it normally, you have to undervolt that shit.
literally fucking impossible to OC, at a technical level, it burns the fuck down if you use it at its normal power levels. this is a fucking joke lmao who the fuck are you retards who are buying this shit? when did these shitheads go into PC gaming lmao? these morons can't tell their mouf from their ass

>>105577883
>>105577862

>uses 1000w to play gachaslop and minecraft at 50fps with RT

>>105577909
I watched a 3 hour gamersnexus stream where they overclocked the fuck out of a 5090 and nothing happened to the cable, you need to stop reading so much Reddit troonslop, this level of seething delusion MUST be from an Indian troon

>>105577913
12VHPWR isn't helping you idiot, it's a cost saving measure that's not passed to the customer. now pay thousands for your shit 5090 and make sure to undervolt it so it doesn't burn down lmao
>but muh aesthetic
exactly, who the fuck are you retards?

>>105577909
>>105577930
who imported the clueless jeets from youtube comments into /g/

i know youre retarded but the point is x card and 8pins can survive 1000w while y card with new connector starts melting and dying after 300w
>literally the amd no driver meme but with connectors

>>105577923
12VHPWR takes away options, doesn't add anything, apart from literal gay shit muh aesthetic. that's some estrogen shit

>>105577939
fucking moron the balancing pins are even internally connected, on any board, you clueless retard. they're scamming you

>>105577942
I've been running my 5090 and 104% PL and an overclock for months, no melting

>>105577953
comfortably I presume? no butt clenching each and every second? watercooled connector?

how do I tell if my psu is compatible with the 5090?

>>105577957
not everyone buys into Reddit troon propaganda like you

>>105577970
If it's a premium brand with 1000W+ rated power it should be good. You may need an adapter from the manufacturer if it's not "PCIe 5.0 Ready" and has a 12VHPWR native socket. A good quality PSU with adapter is better than a cheap chinkshit with native 12VHPWR.

My computer sits right next to an outside window. I was thinking maybe there is some way to connect a tube from the fans pumping out hot air to the window so all the heat from my computer just goes outside. Probably way too much DIY for me but I'm curious if anyone has ever done or heard of such a thing being done.

So let me get this straight, if you use your OLED monitor for anything except gayming, you're gonna get fucked by burnin. So it's a monitor made for NEETs.

>>105577421
You get a warranty with a new card though so who cares about melting risk?

>>105577939
hahahaha fuck man you made me laugh because it's true.

>>105578210
Unless you turn off UI/HUDs, you'll get those burned in too.

>>105578185
pc with exhaust ducts, people have done it before
but you would likely need 3d printed stuff to fit them

>>105578210
No because neets will burn it out even faster. It's a monitor you have to baby with 50 different protection effects and you can only use it for games/shows a few hours a day and you also need a super computer so your fps never drops because if it does you get vrr flicker which causes seizures.

>>105577970
Buy this and you are good. It even has a 12 year warranty.

bros what's the best 670e or 870e board? I want to get a 6000 CL30 ram kit with the best 98003xd overclock for gaming.
Would prefer something with lots of sata and m.2 slots.

>>105578185
Open loop with radiator outside would work.

>>105578229
OLED hater sour grapes cope, LCDs get VRR flicker too even lol

With all this talk about PSUs, I wouldn't pay too much for a premium unit.
RMx or similar is a sane stopping point because Seasonic will be releasing new models with temperature/current monitoring & safety shutdown features for the 12V-2x6 connector on the PSU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwxImD4t98

>>105578210
Burn-in is cumulative regardless of content displayed. It's just that static content burns in to localized areas in a set pattern/shape you can readily discern so it'll stand out more sooner. In reality, if you let the monitor run compensation cycles like it's supposed to, don't use 100% MAX Brightness all the time, use the screen-save power-off feature when you are AFK, auto-hide the taskbar etc, you can expect MANY YEARS of use before even faint burn-in becomes noticeable and OEMS all have 3-year explicit burn-in warranties anyway so you're guaranteed at least 6 years of useful life out of one if you cash-in the policy toward the end of the the model's warranty period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kPsKyF5bQ

>>105578253
All OLED's have VRR flicker it is inherent to the medium. It is very rare in other monitor tech. Sorry oled fags but you should try being more honest instead of trying to hide your flaws.

>>105578240
X870E tomahawk/edge ti are great high-end options
X870E apex is the best overclocker

>>105578269
enjoy your ghosting and IPS glow bro

>>105578240
ASRock Nova is good in terms of price/features, but you need to update the board BIOS version before you install the CPU (use flashback feature).
ASUS Apex is for people who know how to OC and are actively posting OC records on HWBot. The practical gains aren't enough considering its $750 price tag.

What is a good ATX case that makes everything easier and has good cooling? There are just too damn many to choose from

>>105576605
great advice

>>105576476
yes u do Grandma, it's going to do well at showing re-runs of the Golden Girls on Bing Video & Angry Birds

Putting together a 9800x3d build
I'm trying to choose between the following:
MOBO: $290 ASUS ROG Strix X670E vs. $250 MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk
RAM: $149 G.SKILL Trident Z5 Royal Neo Series CL28-36-36-96 vs. $189 G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo CL26-36-36-96 both 2x16gb
What do?

>>105578408
I'd pay a little more for the ASUS strix. ROG Strix is nicer but you have to deal with ASUS bullshit like their support. Also, ASUS pulls stupid shit like not allowing you to have 3 m.2 drives without disabling x8 of your lanes to your GPU. Look up GPU lane sharing + your model of mobo you're buying on Youtube. Some guy did a bunch of vids on GPU Lane sharing for a bunch of popular boards.

I'd get the CL26 kit. Lower latency is better and that isn't much more either. Get yourself something nice for the money.

>>105578428
the lane sharing is only on the second x16 slot which no one uses anyways

>>105578375
Corsair 4000D FRAME with 3x black fans is a nice price/feature case.
I would've liked Meshify 3 if the case was longer.

>>105578313
>>105578240
> ASRock Nova Wifi
WARNING! There is no Windows 10 driver for the Wifi of the Nova, only a Windows 11 driver!
If you want to use Windows 10 (I do, you should too) but need the Wifi you better get a different mobo.
Aside from this the Nova is the best deal you can make if you got the money for it. It's not cheap, just not as expensive as other premium boards. But it has the unique feature of five M.2 slots without GPU slot lane sharing. Build quality and cooling design are top notch.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/asrock-phantom-gaming-x870e-nova-wifi-in-test-cheap-taichi-alternative-with-experience-report-teardown-material-testing-and-thermal-modding/

>>105576565
Yes. 4080S is equivalent to amd's current flagship, 9070xt. Currently , the only major upgrade over your gpu is the rtx5090.

>>105578408
>ROG Strix X670E
which strix? there's -A, -F, -G and -E which are all quite different.

the cl28 kit is better value. if you're going to spend more, get a 2x24gb 6000cl30 or cl28 kit instead

>>105576565
9800X3D + ASRock Nova +32GB for $749?
That's a great deal.

>>105576615
No, unless it's a Radeon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cElzi6wNfn4 OH NO NO NO

>>105576565
Aren't Asrock boards frying 9800x3D's or has that been fixed.

what're reasonable ram temps? I turned on Expo (6000) and ran memtest86 max temp is 50c. with expo off (4200) max temp is 40c

>>105576565
How tightly can you tune 6400 CL38-46-46-84 ram? Can it reach 6000 CL30?

>>105578490
yes they are and asrock just claimed its been fixed but they have already lied once about fixing it 3 months ago so...

>>105578502
probably not since its probably micron g-die

>>105578467
e > f > a in term of features, no idea about g

>>105578507
e>f>h>a>g i believe
e for extreme, f for formula, h for hero, a for apex and g for gamer

>>105578490
It's been fixed with BIOS 3.25 for the Nova.

>>105578499
up to 60C under gpu load is ok

>>105578502
Perhaps 6000 CL32 with more juice?

Looking for an AMD mobo that can run 2 or 3 m.2 and at least 3 sata ssd without cucking the GPU out of x16 mode.
From what I've read, most AMD mobos cuck the GPU out of x16 mode if you run more than one m.2

>>105578210
>2022

This doesn't happen in the latest models, fag.

>>105578567
>burn in doesn't happen anymore
lmao what kind of bullshit lie is this, at least try to make your jests believable.

>>105578559
I'm pretty sure any mobo that starts with 8XX has full GPU bandwidth regardless of M2 pops.

ATX or mATX?

>>105578559
only a couple of asus strixes does that. other boards either dont share lanes or take them from sata, chipset pcie or another m2 slot

Is an AMD Ryzen 5 5600X for $100 (stock AMD cooler included) a good deal?

>>105575108
>AMD first announces pro card with pro pricing
>then release gaming card with same specs but priced adequately
Totally

5080 24gb i s going to be the goat card of this generation.

>>105578559
You need to take the Threadripper/Epyc route for that. There's simply not enough PCIe lanes on X670E and X870E platforms for what you are looking for.
There's a handful of Z890 boards that barely have enough for those esoteric requirements.

>>105578596
Well I think so. But I'm not a fan of the cooler, I want an aio on every cpu.

>>105578606
Unless we finally get a 9080.

R8 pls

Fractal Design North XL Mesh Panel Gaming Case - Black

Case Fans 3x Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax.Black.swap 120mm Black PWM Fan Pack

Processor AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D Processor (8X 4.7GHz/96MB L3 Cache)

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360mm Liquid Cooler

Memory 64 GB [32 GB X2] DDR5-6000MHz Memory Module - CORSAIR Dominator Titanium (RGB LED)

Motherboard MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK - WiFi 7, ARGB Header (3), USB Rear Ports (3 Type-C, 9 Type-A), M.2 Slot (4)

Power Supply 1000 Watt - Be quiet! Dark Power 13 - 80 PLUS Titanium PCIe GEN 5, Fully Modular

Primary Storage 4TB Samsung 9100 PRO M.2 PCIe Gen 5 NVMe SSD -- Gen 5 Read: 14800MB/s; Write: 13400MB/s

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

>>105578609
I have 3 ssds and 2 m.2 currently. That's much for current boards? I'm fine with no pcie 5.0 x16 but surely pcie 4.0 x16 on the gpu will still be possible right?

>>105578559
gigabyte b850 aorus elite, msi b850 tomahawk and asus b850 tuf handles that fine
>>105578622
he's talking out of his ass

>>105578617
video card status

>>105578617
that overpriced memory kit better be CL30 and not CL36-CL40 trash sticks

>>105578622
You are SOL there, there's not enough PCIe lanes to go around without pulling PCIe lanes from main GPU slot. You honestly do not need 16x PCIe 4.0/5.0 lanes for your GPU.

>>105578661
where do you get your info from retard
am5 cpus have 24x cpu lanes and 4x chipset lanes which is enough for which he's looking for

>>105578622
meant 3 sata ssds and 2 nvme ssds*

>>105578673
why doesn't /g/ have real people come here?

>>105578653
Cl30 yes
>>105578646
5070ti. Waiting to see what the 6k series produce and if they are better than the 5k I'll sell it and get whatever top of the line 6k they make

>>105578633
>Kiddo doesn't understand how PCIe lanes are mapped with modern desktop platforms

>>105578684
ok but enough about yourself

>>105577704
>I want to use the 12VHPWR
Big mistake. That shit will grenade your system.

>>105578669
In practice, they have 20 lanes because 4 of them are use for connection to PCH(s). Some are used for USB4 and USB3 controllers that often ride off the CPU's PCIe controller.
The big catch with X870/X870E is the mandatory USB4 that eats up 4 PCIe lanes. Unlike its X670E/X670 predecessor.
Again kiddo, desktop platform on both camps have finite PCIe lanes that you need RTFM to determine how you can mapped your resources.
If you need more PCIe lanes for your use case, you are going to bite the workstation platform bullet. In practice, this is a non-issue for 99% of desktop users.

>>105578705
USB4 eat up x2 lanes with x2 wasted lanes and they are only mandatory on X870 boards.
B850, B650/E and X670/E boards have more than enough lanes. In practice, you can get boards with these chipsets that have one x16 gpu slot, two x4 cpu connected M.2. slots and one or two x4 chipset connected M.2. slots so they never have to share bandwidth with each other, "kiddo"

>>105577412
Did the Nvidia priority access invite finally come through? What card did you have before?

My computer just today started having some issues, it randomly restarted once when I was away and then the mouse got pretty much non-responsive and shit like instead of my usual wallpappers they just turned black.
I have a 9070XT and noticed I there's a new driver update, could the issue be that my driver was old?

Should my 9070XT really be this much slower in BF2 than my 5090? 5090 @ 100% resolution scale, 90700XT at 75% res scale. All settings maxed out at 4K. Really felt horrible to play.

>>105578771
replace ram and see if it's stable.

>>105578778
the 9070 is kind of an insult.

>>105578778
it's almost like the 9070 XT is a much lower tier card.

Any arc Chad's in here?

>>105578778
What kind of troll chart is this? A bunch of same parts that spit out different numbers.

My nvme suddenly died but as soon as i tried taking out a 9070XT for a 5080 it started working again

>105578810
most believable nvidishill falseflag. why would anyone own a 9070 xt and a 5080 at the same time???

>>105578805
Yeah, but this is an 8-year-old game, no excuse for 1% lows being almost 1/3rd.
>>105578809
Multiple runs, different maps. Anyone can make a chart.
>>105578813
I have a history over the last week worth of threads specifically talking about it, but sure im a shill.

Are separated radiator chamber cases worth it?

ASUS TUF-RTX5070TI-O16G-GAMING $1,195.54
ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI $260.85
ASUS TUF Gaming GT302 ARGB - Black $135.86
ASUS TUF VG27AQ3A $304.34

Do I get anything by buying all TUF?

>>105578805
imo the 9070 is a 9060 really. Very pathetic.

Gonna buy Celestial.

>>105578826
Nobody optimizes for AMD. pc gaming is just nvidia gaming. this has long been known. There are no competent gaming companies, they're full of woke trash, and are totally incompetent.

>>105578845
based on a recent 9070XT BF2 test steam at 4K, my red devil is really fucking broken christ man.

>>105578837
It's just marketing lingo

>>105578859
if ur switching nvidia and radeon gpus in and out of the same pc over and over even with ddu it could lead to issues. some people have problems after switching vendors until they reinstall windows.

>>105578826
that 5090 is tiny

>goy chasers
unironically bring better bait, may as well post userbenchark or pudget systems instead

>>105578873
Tldw?

>>105578872
I have to say, I only see this go one way. I DDU and can put Nvidia in any system, and it's fine, but Radeon needs a special Windows install, cache removed, etc, etc. ot its not the true performance. Ugh. I really do want to play with them, but I don't want two pc's to deal with.
>>105578884
It's a 4 slot gaming trio next to a 3 slot red devil, this bitch is enormous. I really wan an FE just so I can use my other goddamn slots man.

>>105578888
9070XT is ewaste, only poorshit that could never own an nvdia gpu better than a 1060 thinks it's acceptable to sell such a piece of shot for more than $400

Is this the best kit to get if I want the best out of the box/EXPO performance and don't want to do any manual RAM tweaking?

>105578896
>piece of shot
>t.
enjoying your time on the 1050ti pc in the cafe chang? why is nvidia paying SEA niggers that can't even spell. terrible look.

>>105578902
there are 6000 cl30-36-36 kits available that are slightly better

(HE USES WINDOWS)

>>105578912
Nice 2018 webm
>current time 2025
KEK

>>105578929
Good enough for LoL which is all these scimpanzes can afford to play

>>105578902
those are tall heat spreaders. does your cooler have clearance?

>>105578835
Not really unless you plan to run like a 420mm+

>>105578991
I am interested in that announced Deepcool CL660 mid tower case but concerned about the quality of the inclused AIO and from what i seen i am not sure how to remlve the pump block from the main chamber since the tubes just run through an hole in the top of the case

Is there a point in tall ram heatsink outside look and rgb?

woah badass, too bad you’re losing market share lmao

>>105579158
No. In fact you can raw dog RAM with bare PCBs and no heat spreader at all no problem, but there's just not much savings to be in foregoing them so no one does.

>>105579158
It allows the manufacturer to charge more and make more money.

>>105579158
some probably have worse thermal due to all the plastic covering the ram

>>105578835
They are definetly the way to go for future generations aio focus build with high performance GPU and CPUs becoming more and more housefires and designed to exhaust straight over the CPU area so the hot air from the GPU gets sucked in by the air cooler/radiator and that is already a +15 °C on the CPU with a 5090 in the system at full load
Air coolers are only getting worse mostly because of the GPU cooking them with passthrough

With how many crashes and power outages I've had, it's honestly a fucking miracle my HDDs are still alive.

>>105579235
When are we going to see custom air duct cases hit the big time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cehXZftIYok
^You wouldn't have to have such high precision as he did 3D printing his own, if the ducts were flexible/telescoping like those used in home HVAC systems.

>>105579253
Get you a UPS dog. They are a buy once, cry once investment and then you can get really cheap aftermarket batteries for them once eveyr 3-5 years. What I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-Sinewave-Outlets-Mini-Tower/dp/B00429N19W?sr=8-1

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/whats-new/2025-3.html#NVIDIA-Blackwell-Architecture-GPUs

Support for NVIDIA Blackwell Architecture GPUs
Premiere Pro now supports NVIDIA Blackwell GPU acceleration for 4:2:2 video, unlocking fast playback performance. 4:2:2 video delivers twice the color detail of 4:2:0 with only a modest increase in file size, making it ideal for precise color grading, cleaner chroma keying, and crisper text rendering. Editors using NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs can take full advantage of accelerated 4:2:2 playback.

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>105579346
>5090s are suddenly worth $500 more
t-thanks nvidia...

3GB VRAM modules when?

>>105579184
That's very funny, because in reality:
Nvidia has the market share
Nvidia has the fastest GPU

>>105578286
Thanks I will

>>105579262
They are not aesthetically pleasing

Just for lols today I tried to build a 5700X3D system to see how cheap I could make a system, but the mobos in Australia are all out of stock.
thanks for reading my blog

Are there any open source wifi modems? Any that support WIFI 7?

Anyone have the ARCTIC Freezer 36? https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/N6bRsY/arctic-freezer-36-cpu-cooler-acfre00123a is it comparable to the phantom spirit? You can buy a couple of cheeseburger for the price difference.

>>105579561
5700x3d is extremely outdated anyway so you should get a 7600, 9600x or 7700 instead

>>105579580
tech jesus tested it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Do1wXFliU

>>105579580
The PS120 has almost twice the dissipation area so no. Whether that matters in practice depends on the heat load you're applying - both will handle a "65W" chip just fine but the Freezer 36 will struggle with higher-end CPUs.

Buying a mATX mobo feels kind of gay

>>105579638
>>105579639
Thanks

>>105579561
prices has went up for 5700x3d anyway and there's much cheaper b650/850 boards nowadays

>>105579649
You're welcome. I should say that it'll take quite a significant heat load to get the 36 to choke. Per the other anon's video, it handled 200W just fine so feel free to buy it if you need to make budget. Though in that case you might want to go even cheaper with a no-frills 120mm tower (Assassin X, ID-Cooling, Vetroo V5, etc.).

>>105579184
kek I love these GPU war edits

>>105579605
?????????

>>105578617
Why kryonaut?

With computers for family members, I'll set them up with the same aio and kryosheet. Lay it on there, the Arctic spring/plate clamps the fuck out of anything between it and the ihs, done. Don't have to think about it again.

Temps are fine. Those coolers, even with stock fans, etc, have so much headroom in non-torture test situations.

>>105579727
Bc it was more expensive

>>105579696
slower than modern e-cores in IPC and clockspeed
outdated IO too

Air cooling maxing case design hire me Lian li
>triple chamber (mobo chamber gpu chamber psu chamber fishtank)
>mobo cpu chamber is separated from gpu area
>gpu is connected to mobo via a pcie riser (supported both traditional mounting and vertical)
>2 180-200mm front intake, 1x chamber
>2 rear exhaust slot mounting,1x chamber
>cpu chamber support top mounting 360mm rad
>gpu chamber support up to 3x 120mm fans
>2 hinged side glass pannel, one per chamber
Need to iron out size as it should be taller than standard midtower atx, psu placement for the cables lenght to reach everywhere, how many fans to ship it with and price

Got an SN8100 to give the 9070xt a fair shot with a fresh Windows install. I can't believe it's as bad as what I've been dealing with; there must be some Nvidia demon still on here sabotaging it.

>>105579736
oh you're one of those. nvm then.

>>105579752
yes i'm one of those rational people

>amd makes better RTX gpus
>amd makes better x86 cpus
how do they keep getting away with it

>>105579836
>amd is 8% of market
That's how.

>>105579886
thats alright since marketshare always lags after innovation. ryzen also became better than intel back when they only made up 10-20% of total marketshare

>>105579903
they’re not better at GPUs they’re actively worse

isn't RTX just the name of a NVIDIA gpu series? how can AMD make them?

Bought 7800 XT, everything works. Thank you, AMD!

My motherboard is gigabyte b450m ds3h, are there any cases under €150 compatible with my motherboard

>>105580053
Why do you think your mobo is so super special that needs case recommendation?

>>105580053
no, nothing is compatible with your motherboard, you got the worlds least compatible motherboard

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5050-gets-20-gbps-gddr6-memory-matching-radeon-rx-9000-series

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

320GB/s OF DELICIOUS MEMORY BANDWIDTH, MORE THAN RTX 4060

Do I get 5070Ti or 5080 for 1440p ultrawide gayming
Can get both at about msrp, got 9800x3d already

>>105580128
>nvidia announced they will use slower ram
nvidia won what, retard?

>>105580178
He's as an autistic subhuman that's been spamming the same type of post here for two years now

https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/NVIDIA%20WON%20%20THANK%20YOU%20NVIDIA/page/15/

>>105580128
I was considering getting a 4060 for my new gaymen rig but this looks worth waiting for

>>105580269
why not just get a 5060?

>>105580217
clearly he was right because nvidia keeps winning

>>105578778
install linux and it will be faster than a 5090

>>105580433
weird how nobody ever posts benchmarks to back this up

>>105579903
Marketshare lags behind innovation but usually it goes up, not down.

>>105574924 (OP)
>Buy 5080
>Could be missing performance and might melt on me

>Buy 9070XT
>Gonna have to wait for more games to pick up FSR4
So. 9070XT it is?

is there any performance hit when gpu is connected with extension pci-cable? like, in vertical gpu mount situation

>>105579739
The innovation needed for dedicated wind duct designs to work is some kind of modular stretchy divider system to separate things on the motherboard without a riser cable. It wouldn't matter that the seal is not anywhere airtight, just having most of the air be forced into a general direction will do the job. I can think of a viable triangle of three front (giant) fans for such a dual chamber layout.

So let me get this straight. 16gb VRAM should be fine for gaming. 24gb and more if you want to run AI crap.

>>105580515
it happens all the time
but i don't own the game so you're gonna have to test it yourself (i assume those are multiplayer sessions)

>>105580585
>JUST TRUST ME OK?!?!?

>>105580591
no, test it yourself, like i said

What's the most most most ideal temp for a GPU?

>>105580582
9070XT runs out of vram in multiple games in 4K

>>105580597
>10% difference
a 10% difference won’t make a 9070XT beat a 5090 when there’s a 50%+ gulf between them

>>105580582
Yeah but keep in mind njudea cards use less vram

>>105580618
>>105580618
>>105580618

>>105580612
1% lows are much better on linux (in general)
just test it yourself, retard, stop crying
or buy the game for me
you already made a fancy benchmark chart with 5 million different runs, time isn't an excuse

>>105580604
I'm running Triple 1080. Should be fine or nah- buy the 7900xtx?

And before you ask
>why not 1440+
Basically it's easier for me to read everything.

>>105580545
nvidia's consumer chip marketshare is going up because of AI

>>105580619
I mean, Taiwanese are descended from the Fujianese- who were renown merchants, and Hakka, who every other Chinese hated.

>>105580597
damn 5090 btfo

>>105580646
retarded

>>105580625
sorry, but you’re not going to make a 9070XT match a 5090 with your cope driver

>>105580667
i know you're not looking for solutions, you're just fishing for (You)s

>>105580676
>claim that a 9070XT with RADV will beat a 5090
>get called retarded
>cope
lol

>>105580713
it will beat a 5090 in battlefront 2

>>105580724
yeah, no, cope and seethe, AMD lost Nvidia won, enjoy your 8% market share and dropping

>>105580737
(You)

>>105578729
>Somebody who never actually build and use their platforms speaking
You never noticed because the GPU slot being forced to cutback to 8x mode in that configuration has no impact at all.

>>105577046
>Based AMD enjoyer
Nice 9070XT boss

What's a poorfags choice for high refresh rate gaming these days?

>>105580764
The x16 wires are physically routed to the gpu slot and can't be reallocated on the fly dumb dumb

which is better value;
7800xt for 445€
or
rx9070 for 610€?

or is there a better amd card between 400-700 that has better value