Thread 105579981

Why did it fail, /g/? And how would you have made it a resounding success, had you been the Director General of the initiative?

I would have put porn on them

>>105579981 (OP)
Instead of giving one device to each kid, either it should have been one device per school or one device for every, let's say, five to six kids. If any resource is distributed immensely and freely, people tend to lose value for it. So, had the supply been constricted a bit, that would have raised the seeming value or worth of the device immensely in one's head.

>>105579981 (OP)
You can’t solve all problems with technology baka
>>105579988
wtf that’s bad for children

>Why did it fail, /g/?
severely underspecced even for its use case. they later partnered with microsoft to put windows on it.

>>105579981 (OP)
Not enough RAM, Disk or CPU power to make them usable.

>>105579981 (OP)
It was a piece of shit, and the people it was given to, lacked the intelligence to use it.

like giving a linux pc to a gorilla

>>105579981 (OP)
>Why did it fail
Fail? Homestar got his to work fine.
>the real answer is that a U.N. money grift can never actually be a viable aid program

>>105579981 (OP)
The buy-two-get-one price for developed countries was a disaster for the business. They should have sought some paying customers in the first world to bring in order volume to reduce production cost.

>>105579981 (OP)
>pay for two laptops, one for yourself and one for a niglet somewhere in Africa
it's a mistery why it failed

>>105580075
It could be fun if you wanted to test your skills on building something for a limited hardware.
Now what you could develop depends on your imagination.

>>105580102
if you gave it to some impoverished finnish child , they would probably find a use for it, but it was given to africans who have trouble with reading and writing, so it was a futile effort.

>>105580075
>>105580096
>>105580127
Do you guys not have the entire /pol/ to yourselves? Why come here and spread this filth?

>>105579981 (OP)
Governments of the African nations did not shown any interest. They want to keep their population subdued and poor.

>>105580135
its not even filth its just the truth. There is a void of information in africa, and its not from lack of access.

>>105580102
note that it was released Nov 2007. the specs are weaker than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC#Specifications which had better ecosystem.
also what >>105580127 said. those are not Russian kids cranking on codeforces problems.
>>105580135
you always throw insults but never say "liar". I wonder why is that.

>>105579981 (OP)
The entire idea was fucking ridiculous. Just a freetard wet dream projected onto people who are their complete opposite. Why did anyone expect it NOT to fail?

>>105580154
>you always throw insults but never say "liar". I wonder why is that.
It's obvious to literally everyone, including the /pol/tard lying.

>>105579981 (OP)
>Why did it fail
smartphones

>>105580184
trvth NVKE (5 megaton, hence very big)

>>105579981 (OP)
it was an example of something designed by a foreigner with no idea of the local needs
also, special hardware is not cheap, so it was slow and shitty for the price

>>105580028
the porn is so the children don't trash the laptop

>>105580135
Let's be honest. Africa got one laptop per child, basically. You can buy a $100 laptop. NGOs do dump old computers in Africa. What do you think happens? They rot, rust, burnt for scrap. It changed nothing. You give Africa unlimited aid and it just gets eaten up in a haze of incompetence and corruption. Even kids in America destroy their Chromebooks for the lulz. 10x for Africa.

>>105580152
>you always throw insults but never say "liar". I wonder why is that
Yes, that is because you are absolutely, perfectly entitled to have an opinion of your own, howsoever right or wrong, or howsoever true or false it may be. All I am saying is, there is a right place for everything. The computer does not care what the colour of the hand of the person was that gave it the command, because it is noble, pure of heart, and clean of soul. If you want to indulge in bigotry and racism, sure, but do so on /pol/ or someplace else. This is our technology board; please keep it devoid of all this malice of heart and mind.

>>105579981 (OP)
There was some video that went deep into this and it revealed that they fell for the "more computers is le good" meme without researching what third world country children actually need.

One desktop per child is a better concept, then everyone else works off of a thin client connected to a server at school and can back up their work to a USB drive daily or even connect to it at home if they're fancy pants rich fags who have an internet connection.

but mostly I'd just travel back in time and completely eradicate everyone in big tech, ensuring the iPhone & social media never evolved as a concept. Those were the true gatekeepers to this project succeeding.

>>105579981 (OP)
You know you can learn about programming on paper right? And you don't need to charge that when you don't have access to power.
Also didn't they just destroy them?

>>105579981 (OP)
Best take I heard on this is the cultural idea of individual ownership and private information.

Say what you will about some random african tribe, they tend to be much more community focused for survival, as such status of the individual based on owning some tech device (that they didn't even have to work to obtain) is meaningless.

Ironically a mainframe for each tribe / village with communally owned dumb-terminals would be much easier to integrate into many african cultures.

>>105580014
>If any resource is distributed immensely and freely, people tend to lose value for it.
aptly said

>>105579981 (OP)
At it's core, a computer is a thing that takes power to make computation faster so that a human doesn't have to do it.
What does a classroom in a poor african village need with a computer? Are they in a hurry to get a program result? Do they have regular access to power?
Are the kids even going to take care of them.
The answers are no, no, maybe (but actually no).
You could say, but it can be a multimedia device for storing books presentations demonstrations. Okay fair enough, then you're going to need something more powerful and a laptop is not fixable in situ. Might as well make it one or two low power desktops with plenty of storage that you know the parts can be cheaply replaced and have extreme dust protection. Not a child per laptop, and I wouldn't even do that.
I would revise their cirriculum sure. I wouldn't just dump a laptop on them.

>>105579981 (OP)
Why didn't the OLPC software become the dominant smartphone OS?

Such a damn mystery.

>>105580357
Nobody said anything about racism, even if you percieve it that way, africans underperform academically, and will struggle with such unfamilar technology, especially in 2007. thats just reality. touch screen phones are much better than that piece of shit, and they use those just fine.

>>105580014

Bingo. Well said.

>>105579981 (OP)
An overdesigned, extremely underpowered, barely useful piece of hardware. Organization responsible foe it struggled with producing enough of them for the promised price.
Meanwhile, nobody get the simple idea of buying en masse old netbooks and chromebooks, refurbishing them and giving away to these places. It would have significantly lower cost, higher availability, and even the most shitty netbook was much more powerful that the green e-waste.

>>105579981 (OP)
Good read on the matter

>>105579981 (OP)
Javascript
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>>105579981 (OP)
Good read on the matter

>>105580357
shut up NI

>>105581202
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>>105580014
>If any resource is distributed immensely and freely, people tend to lose value for it. So, had the supply been constricted a bit, that would have raised the seeming value or worth of the device immensely in one's head.
Literally Windows 11.

>>105579981 (OP)
It failed because it was designed to be what the creators thought was cool or interesting and ignored the actual needs of the ostensible target audience.

>>105579981 (OP)
>how would you have made it a resounding success
I would've aimed for India and SEA countries like Vietnam instead of Africa. Those places could have benefited a lot more from the perfusion of cheap, child-friendly computing a lot more than anyone in Africa would have.

Instead of building a new product pipeline from scratch, why not partner with some large OEM to keep one of their old assemblies on life support?

was giving one laptop per child to a child who was going to grow up and put a tire around some africans neck and set it on fire really a good use of resources, or just a grift for that non-profit monies?

>>105579981 (OP)
clearly you never watched hremail 6744

>>105581380
They have no use for this junk there. Even the poorest pajeet has a phone with access to mobile internet. Any android phone is a million times more useful than this toy.

>>105579981 (OP)
Because it was a leftist idea. The idea that the only reason a group of people is not successful is because they lack material things other people havebis inherently a leftist concept and it has failed every time a proposed rectification has been implemented. When the government gives autistic people money for being disabled, they don't use that money to buy college classes and improve themselves and become successful. They use it to buy video games and weed. When you give minorities reparations or taxpayer benefits, they spend it on useless nonsense, and they climb no higher on the social or educational ladder of society.

You can't just give African kids who worship cow gods and live in huts a laptop and expect them to be catapulted into the 21st century and become doctors and stuff.

>>105581081
Only somewhat good idea on it was the hand crank for charging and even that failed at the UN demonstration and later they removed it completely from newer models.

>>105580102
If I got that piece of shit as a kid I would have probably gotten into tech sooner. I would have found a way to have fun with it. Of course im not an african though

>>105582784
Hmm, suspicious. You sound like one to me. Tell you what, uhh.. post your specs and I'll accertain as to whether you're or aren't.

>>105579981 (OP)
>Why did it fail, /g/?
The devices themselves were underpowered, built like shit and ran a locked-down operating system. Even if the children who received them somehow developed in interest in computers, they wouldn't have been able to explore it, considering how limited the software was. Besides, the countries in which these things were distributed had bigger issues to deal with than large-scale access to computing. The money that was wasted into these computers could have been used to provide clean water, nutritious meals, proper infrastructure and competent teachers. My guess is that the whole project was virtue signaling by a bunch of Californian tech executives and grifters who thought of computers as some sort of silver bullet.
>And how would you have made it a resounding success, had you been the Director General of the initiative?
I would have focused on low-income households in developed countries., and I would have given them normal laptops with no software or hardware restrictions. At the time, a lot of poor people couldn't afford a computer, and could have actually learned new skills by having access to their own computer.

>>105583345
>picrel
Looks like a Dell based on the exhaust grill.

>we NEED to help Africa!!!
>we already give them free food, free money, send over dozens of NGOs per country per month trying to teach them how to farm or dig wells or stop raping or stop murdering albinos
>we've basically ben holding their hand trying to get them to understand civilization since the early 1900s
>I GOT IT!!! They just need a shitty cheap laptop, that will solve all the corruption and famine and just general retardation so prevalent on the continent!!!!
Why can't we just leave Africa alone??

A Pine Phone with an external bluetooth keyboard and mouse is all one needs.

>>105583385
Not sure. These days, the laptops distributed as part of the Ordival program are made by Dynabook these days, so I'm guessing that these old ones were made by Toshiba.

>>105579981 (OP)
>Muh we save the world doing something good to poor black children we are better than everyone else which cures our white guilt
Because

>>105580102
>The specs
Raspberry Pi would have been more suited for this. And cheaper.

>>105579981 (OP)
because the children they gave it to were retarded. you could give them fully specced macbook pros and they still wouldn't learn anything

>>105583131
Im posting from a microsoft niggalink with dual fent reactors

Netbooks came out around the same time and pretty much undercut OLPC, even with Africans needing to pay for the netbooks. OLPC was so inferior to the average netbook that it became less than worthless.

>>105583598
OLPC pre-dated the Rasberry Pi project by 3 years you tit.

>>105579981 (OP)
Laptops are bad for children. The government will do literally anything except paying teachers.

>>105579981 (OP)
It's a retarded idea and a terrible allocation of resources. A child doesn't need 24/7 access to a laptop which is why it was more than good enough to have computer labs throughout the 90s-00s. So it would be a better use of resources to have decent computers in a centralized location that can be monitored to prevent a retard breaking the computer.

>>105582361
That was not the case back in 2005-2007, which is when the whole OLPC thing took off.

>>105581081
The EEE PC and following netbooks came after the first gen OLPC, you'd have to wait years for cheap secondhand netbooks to become available for refurbishment. New ones still cost way more than the OLPC, too.

Blow up their power plant and then taunt them by giving away top of the line gaming laptop.

>>105580154
thats great but what does that have to do with /g/ - Technology?

Keep in mind that OP laptop has a crank for generating electricity because Africa has none.
Does a netbook have that?

>>105586253
>first gen OLPC
First gen was not widely distributed due to a endless series of issues and delays.

>>105586922
Weird how over 60% of Africans have a smart phone despite Africa not having electricity.

>>105583598
>>105584054
The Raspberry Pi launched in 2012, which is 6 years later than the OLPC. On top of that, the original Pi model B used an even older and slower processor than the 2006 OLPC. I owned a B, it was so unbelievably slow that it lagged just typing into the command line in single user mode. Raspberry Pi wasn't even remotely useful until the launch of the Pi 2.

>>105587118
So, how would you fix that while still meeting the target price and timetable?

>>105587126
Those youtubers only go to the part of Africa that do have electricity. Otherwise they couldn't record jackshit

>>105579981 (OP)
All the kids that would benefit from laptops already had them. Now they're just given to africans by jews so that liberal white women can simulate teaching eternal children since they're not having any of their own.

>>105586833
Only a gaymer would think if such rubbish thoughts and post it.

>>105579981 (OP)
if they just took chromebooks and reflashed em with linux mint it would have been way better. instead they made shittier laptops to give out at probably a higher cost.

>>105579981 (OP)
the whole thing was an excuse for MIT media lab jerkoffs and NGOs to fuck around, they had no interest in making something people wanted

>>105587489
olpc predates mint and chromebooks by years

>>105588112
Now post the 2006 equivalent.

>>105581081
>just use old netbooks and chromebooks
you know the olpc is from 2005, right? before netbooks and well before chromebooks

>>105587126
2005 was 20 years ago anon, africa's accessibility to power and other resources has greatly improved since then

>>105588337
I think half the anons in this thread are zoomers who haven't got a fucking clue about the OLPC or netbook era.

>>105579981 (OP)
I always think of that one Sam Hyde joke about teaching kids in Africa javascript every time I see this stupid thing.

>>105587126
I think it wasn't like that during the time of the OLPC, especially since the XO-1 in the OP predates the iPhone getting the App Store (which is basically what kicked off the smartphone revolution since before the App Store the iPhone was just a niche trinket) by about half a year.

>>105587289
I wonder how Gabon ended up being higher than Ghana, I always figured Ghana was the most developed out of the west african countries that aren't Nigeria

>>105580135
>niggers being niggers
>somehow a /pol/-only observation
don't lie, kike-kun
you yourself is repulsed by your golem, you avoid them by nature, even liberals subconciously avoid the niggers and poo
why do you try to force them onto others?
their primary function is literally just driving down the value of everything and let blackrock or some adjacent system buy it all up for cheap

>>105580135
see the reddit teacher screencap to know more, niggers will literally use the free laptop you gave them as frisbee
even with so much affirmative action, they constantly fail, it's their own doing

>>105580883
>does he know? does he know that niggers will be niggers no matter how much he cope?

>>105588258
Any used budget laptop from that era

>>105579981 (OP)
It was a scam, it was never supposed to succeed.

>>105579981 (OP)
Every single thing about it was fucking stupid.
First of all 100 dollar laptops have always been and will always be useless. Second of all a laptop isn't going to help a 70 iq mentally retarded brown child do better in life. Third it was too early maybe now with starlink there would at least be internet on those things which could at least provide an encyclopedia.

they needed school, running water, and electricity, not a laptop

>>105580255
It did give us some kino

I guess the vast majority of humans are just fucking retarded and they can't do anything at all.

GRIFTERS GONNA GRIFT.
Set this one right next to KONY 2012

I never heard of this, is there a video essay?