Thread 105580618

Paying more for less

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/z7DMsgQV

Previous: >>105574924

Building a computer is pretty easy, yet people still praise me like I'm a half-god. I wish things were this easy in life...

>>105580618 (OP)
Here's my build

early adopters win again as usual. i'm fucking mad. might as well get the 5070 Ti now.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-with-samsung-memory-shows-slight-benchmark-drop-in-22-card-comparison

>>105580655
How's 5th grade?

>>105580682
>2%
literally nothing, enable fast timings in adrenalin and you'll claw back more than 2% performance

>>105580698
yeah, but if do same trick on cards with good memory - that would still be a gap? this is not as bad as missing rops, but still a yet another cuckery-loterry from this anti-coomsumer taiwanese mafia

NOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY IN RESOLUTION OVER 1080P HOW WILL GPU MANUFACTURERS MAKE MONEY IF U DONT AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

1080p sucks doe

>>105580723
>but if do same trick on cards with good memory - that would still be a gap?
depends on how the memory straps are configured in the VBIOS
you're not going to get any information on that from videocardz.com lmao
>this is not as bad as missing rops, but still a yet another cuckery-loterry from this anti-coomsumer taiwanese mafia
samsung memory runs much cooler
i don't mind that tradeoff at all

>>105577826
>if i were you i would just grab a spare hdd/ssd and install ltsc and test shit from scratch
Welp that didn't work, guess it's hardware incompatibility, fml

>>105580761
Triple 1080. 16gb VRAM. Or get more?

>>105580682
>Seething this hard on variations from factory-sanctioned overclocking via boosting.
This always a thing once GPU vendors start to resort to factory-sanctioned overclocking. YMMV. Only obsessive min-max-fags are losing their composure over it.

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/whats-new/2025-3.html#NVIDIA-Blackwell-Architecture-GPUs

Support for NVIDIA Blackwell Architecture GPUs
Premiere Pro now supports NVIDIA Blackwell GPU acceleration for 4:2:2 video, unlocking fast playback performance. 4:2:2 video delivers twice the color detail of 4:2:0 with only a modest increase in file size, making it ideal for precise color grading, cleaner chroma keying, and crisper text rendering. Editors using NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs can take full advantage of accelerated 4:2:2 playback.

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>105580839
how about fixing their shit drivers?

>>105580786
there's no overclocking involved. the samsung gddr6 chips are inferior because they run looser timings at the same clock as hynix gddr6 chips
>min-max-fags
its just bad business to signal to your customers that they will get a worse product because they are unlucky and didn't buy early enough.

>>105580784
I run triple 1080p on 3060ti with zero problems.

>>105580860
Boosting is factory-sanctioned overclocking you dingus.
>its just bad business to signal to your customers that they will get a worse product because they are unlucky and didn't buy early enough.
Vast majority don't give a fuck because they are paypigs who consume for status symbols. Nvidia mastered this. Only min-max-types fretting over every tiny percentage point in benchmarks are losing their composure.

>>105580893
what boosting, you fucking retard? baseline cards with low boost clocks but hynix vram are outperforming high boosting models with slow samsung vram.

>>105580902
I remember Fujitsu-Siemens, the axis of the computer world

>>105580860
>a worse product
https://www.techpowerup.com/335876/pc-enthusiasts-discover-samsung-gddr6-modules-in-radeon-rx-9070-xt-cards
95 C to 75 C with a 2% reduction in performance (100 -> 98 FPS) is not a downgrade
if AMD allowed you to undervolt the memory (like you can do with MPT on 6000 series) then hynix chips might be the undisputed winners, but right now it's a matter of where your priorities lie (and let's be honest, you're never gonna notice the difference anyway)

Hello, I am looking to maximize FPS on a 1080p monitor. I suppose I am CPU bound so I should spend most of my budget on that (e.g., 9800X3D)? Anyone with a similar goal?

>>105581023
what hz chud?

can someone tell me the difference between the
GIGABYTE X670E AORUS Master and the
GIGABYTE B850 AORUS Elite?

>>105581032
I forgot, 240Hz right now.

is AMD Ryzen 5 7600 good enough for 1440p gaming with 5070 ti? It's either that or pay 50€ more for 7700.

>>105580746
Noo I have to play in a resolution worse than consoles

>>105581121
>X670E
PCIE: 5x16,4x4,3x2
M.2: 2*5x4, 2*4x4
SATA: 6
- PCIEX2 (3x2) shares bandwidth with the SATA3 4/5 ports; using this slot disables 2 SATA ports.

>B850
PCIE: 5x16,3x1,3x1
M.2: 1*5x4, 2*4x4
SATA: 4
- No pcie lane gotchas

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-bgm-g31-battlemage-gpu-with-four-variants-in-mesa-update

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

>>105581168
I don't think that +2 extra core will matter much, if you want more FPS maybe go for the 7600X3D, but the basic 7600 is perfectly fine, I also have that one combined with a 7800 XT.

>>105581227
>B770 is actually releasing

>>105580682
does the 2% matter if the whole purpose of being happy about samsung over hynix is "safely" overclocking the VRAM clock speed without having to worry

9070 still not selling for MSRP

>>105581227
interesting if true

>>105581254
AMD called that "MSRP" you are looking for launch pricing at the announcement event
A 9070 and 5070 are going for the same price in Australia, so pick your poison.

>>105581227
what does this mean?

>>105581291
Other than no melting problems what else can a 9070 do?

>>105581306
god-like linux drivers

>>105581310
Linux is an OS for leftists

>>105581310
Windows 10 unless I figure out how to upgrade to 11.

anything fun you can do with a receiving antenna on a computer? listen in to forbidden radio channels? military radio broadcasts?

>PC starts crashing with artifacts on display
>put new GPU
>put new RAM
still happens

>>105581454
God gives us the PC experience we deserve.

Some $7 rgb cpu coolers from ali express arrived. Small and flimsy. Guess it's better than stock coolers on some old pcs but wouldn't buy again I don't think.

I also bought 2x 2 packs ("2 pieces") of something and only 2x1 arrived. Luckily only worth like two bucks each.

Overall I estimate I've been scammed or oversold on 6-8% of ali express/temu purchases. Not too bad.

What have you bought there?

>privatezilla is 3 years outdated
how do people block crap nowadays?

>>105581492
I do pfsense firewall with tons of lists and noscript + ublock origin in the browser. On mobile I have the wifi firewall on top of the pfsense as well as AdGuard in safari. I never see ads of any kind and youtube hasn't blocked me from watching videos for some reason

>>105581236
Thanks.
7600X3D seems to be around 70€ more expensive than 7700 in my country, so that's out of question.
I might just stay with the regular 7600, I will look up for bit more info

>>105581516
privatezilla is to block and uninstall bloat like cortana when it was "unremovable" in windows 10 not an adblocker

>>105581454
gaymd or shintel cpu?

>>105581454
What if you unplug disk and just use bios? I was recently surprised to learn a disk can be so fucked up the pc can't even try to boot if it's plugged in.. so who knows what else it can do. worth a try

>>105581649
it was an ssd m2 actually, maybe sata can't do funky shit. but try it

>>105581454
Do you have auto driver update turned on? If so download an older stable driver and DDU clean install

>>105581602
AMD
>>105581675
already formated PC and tried older drivers
my bet now is that the motherboard is fucked somehow and cant handle current

>>105581747
You could check the disk if it's corrupted but I'm not certain if reading sectors with error would lead to artifacts and a crash. The only drive that ever died for me was a data hdd

I'm getting a new system and I'm not sure whether to extend the storage with my current SSD and HDD.
If there are any viruses or crypto miner on it I would infect my new PC with it.
On the other hand, I'd have to carefully go through all my files and look what I need to keep and I'm a lazy anon.

>>105581853
I have an SSD

Is it worth it to upgrade from a 12400 to a 14600kf (and remain in DDR5)? They are pretty cheap right now, at under $150 here. Is rustgate still a thing?
I can also save and eventually go to AMD but their prices are pretty insane right now. Even a 7800x3d is more than twice the price.

>>105581454
Nvidia? I was getting stupid issues like that and did a clean driver installation and everything got unfucked. I picked the latest drivers and haven’t had any stability issue so far.

just got the steel legend b850m board with a 9800x3d and a thermalgrizzly contact frame for it
any tips on applying the frame and on bios settings for this thing?
heard SoC should be turned on because it being off may be one of the parts of x3ds getting fried

two questions:
MSI 5090 Vanguard or Suprim? They're both in stock and only $50 price difference currently.
Do I have to get a contact frame for my 9800x3d?

>>105581883
the i5s are unaffected

>intelaviv is going to inherit the consumer market that AMD and njudea have abandoned
jesus fucking christ

>>105582199
Intel xisers, how do we respond to this?

>>105581883
>Is rustgate still a thing?
Maybe. Make sure your bios is up to date, undervolt your chip and keep your recipt for the extended warranty. Alternatively just get a 13400F/14400F or a 12th gen high end part for stability reasons.

why does everyone shit on the RTX 5070 again?

Can you recommend me some tutorials on how to use Fan Control for fan curves?

>>105582314
It's shitting on nvidia (which is deserved) disguised as shitting on specific nvidia products to make it seem more legitimate
Whoever wrote the OP gives 7 reasons why the 50 series is apparently bad, and 4 of them are completely irrelevant to any of the GPUs, but completely fair points against the company in general

>>105582085
>MSI 5090 Vanguard or Suprim? They're both in stock and only $50 price difference currently.
I've heard suprim is superior to vanguard unless its the liquid suprim which has some qc issue
>Do I have to get a contact frame for my 9800x3d
No, all it does is make paste cleanup easier. And if you're going to get a contact frame, avoid the thermalright ones since there are numerous reports of v1 and v2 not fitting correctly.

Anyone know how a B350 motherboard acts if using a newer CPU without updating the BIOS? After putting my 3600 in, the motherboard's red mood light turned on, but pressing the power button does nothing. Would be nice to know if this is expected behavior or if the mobo is fucked.

Blogpost following:
Am building a cheapo extra computer and got hoodwinked by some ebay punk selling me an Asus Prime B350 Plus mobo which I suspect he pulled off a PC he swiped from the dump. Guy refused to tell me what the last CPU used in the motherboard was (told me he was selling it for a """friend""") and when it arrived the CPU socket had the latch broken off and traces of glue left where the plastic had broken. I was able to drop my 3600 in and get it to lock after some fiddling, thankfully.
Computer won't start though. No signs of life except the motherboard red light turning on. I assume the BIOS was never updated and I'm gonna have to get a Ryzen 1000 series CPU (or an EEPROM programmer) just to update it, since this was made before BIOS flashback was a thing.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-discontinues-first-arc-alchemist-gpus-mobile-and-desktop-models-on-the-list

IT'S JOEVER

I cannot for the life of my get CL lower than 18. I immediately get errors and I've never seen anyone run into this problem.

Does it matter if my ram isn't in the QVL list for my motherboard?
I'm wanting to get a 2x24gb kit for my GIGABYTE B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 but there's no 2x24 in their QVL list

>>105582491
no

If someone here uses Fan Control, I would appreciate some help. I'm working on setting my fan curves but I can't really find good tutorials that could explain me which ranges I should use, and most of the videos I find are several years old. I already set the GPU curve since that looked straighforward, but I would appreciate some additional input on how to set everything.

>>105582420
maybe its bad bin b-die

>>105582420
have you set tCWL manually? usually the board configures it to tCL or tCL-2 on auto
also, increase VDDP to get tPHYRDL down to 26

>>105582499
will a 2x24gb ddr5 6000hz cl26 rated kit be stable on that board?

>>105580698
>>105581247
read more into the article. just having samsung memory is like running a -200 core deficiency at 4k or 1440p rt.

>>105582506
I don't use it but jayztwocents released an "optimisation" video yesterday that goes over this a bit - at worst you can just copy his setup and tweak from there.

>>105582514
nta but my kit has a 26/28 mismatch that needs like 1.1vddp to match 26/26 at 3600 with GDM on. But it's one of those that then matches 26/26 at like 0.800 with even tCL GDM off 2T or odd tCL GDM off 1T. Never had time to make sure either ran stable so I just live with the mismatch.

>>105582573
>jayztwocents
How does anyone manage to watch this faggot?

>>105582506
I personally care about noise
what I do is open notepad and find the max rpm for every fan at 3 noise levels:
1) just audible, quiet room, headphones off
2) max tolerable/not annoying, quiet room headphones off
3)just audible, headphones on
picrel is the curve on two of my gpu fans
similar to other fans/groups
besides this you have to balance the intake/exhaust to get the pressure you want, I go for positive so the filtered intakes always total higher airflow than the exhausts

>>105582567
probably

>>105582593
forgot to mention
>0-1 is idle temps
>1-2 is browsing/light gaming temps
>2-3 is high/full load
>3 and up is forget about noise, cool this shit down

>>105582509
Possible but I doubt a bad bin could even do tRCD 15. Stock XMP is 3200mts 14-15-15-35, meaning these should be a decent bin.
>>105582514
Everything is set manually, just couldn't get CAS Latency down. What should I set VDDDP to?

>>105582604
>>105582604
and that particular graph is tied to gpu hotspot temps, so they're 10-15c higher than you'd normally want if going by averaged core temps

>>105582573
I actually began looking into fan curves because I watched his video, it came at a very good time since I'm currently looking into optimizing my PC, but the video only explains why it's important to set fan curves, he doesn't really go into detail. I found an older video of him using Fan Control, but it's 3 years old.

>>105582592
I still don't understand what's the problem with his channel.

>>105582593
>>105582604
That's a good idea, but I don't really mind the noise that much, when I installed the program and went through the self-test, by 70% the fans' noise was decent enough. I also live in an area that gets pretty hot during summer and I don't have an AC in my room (yet), so my priority is to keep this thing appropriately cool.

Speaking about the CPU, should I set all of my case and CPU fans to prioritize the CPU? At least that's how jayz did it, but he was using an AIO while I have an air cooler.

>>105582575
>nta but my kit has a 26/28 mismatch that needs like 1.1vddp to match 26/26 at 3600 with GDM on
not that weird depending on your motherboard
for me mismatches start at ~3966 MHz (but since most AM4 chips can't run such high synced FCLK stable anyway it doesn't matter)
2T might be worth it but you're gonna have to test that yourself (1T probably not possible)
>>105582611
>Everything is set manually, just couldn't get CAS Latency down
then it's probably caused by the relation between tCL, tCWL and tRDWR/tWRRD
as the difference between tCL and tCWL gets smaller you need to increase tWRRD and decrease tRDWR
try tCL 16, tCWL 16, tRDWR 8, tWRRD 2
you can try increasing tRDWR and tWRRD more, they aren't critical for performance
>What should I set VDDDP to?
1.0 V
which also means you need to increase VSOC to compensate
i would do 1.1 V SOC, 1.0 V VDDP, 0.9 V CCD, 1.0 V IOD
make sure your chip is truly stable at 1900 FCLK by running the OCCT combined CPU+RAM test

>>105582662
my noise approach also takes care of dust
for me it wouldn't be worth the 3-5C lower temps between idle and high load because the filters would have to deal with 3x more dusty air volume (just guessing)
for other tweaks it depends on your hardware
for example my cpu cooler has a beefy heatsink that almost touches the gpu but the fan is almost quiet even at full load, so I set the cpu fan curve to use the max temp of every sensor (you can add a custom sensor in fancontrol that takes the max of others you select)
another quirk of my setup is the gpu has a blow through backplate and a control for the single third fan that blows through that hole, and it blows right over the RAM while also feeding into the cpu's fan, so I set that one to the same "max" custom sensor
these are all sub 5C difference things but if you're tinkertrannying might as well go all in

>>105582662
The concepts should be mostly the same though. Set your fans based on the hottest thing emitting heat. I don't use fan control but my basic approach is to load up a benchmark and set the curve so the temp is under control at max load and gets there mostly linearly from idle.
I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
>>105582592
I agree that the aforementioned video was just regurgitating shit he has said before, as are many of his videos.

>>105582695
The little bit I did try had 1T looking easy to get stable since I'm stuck at 3600*. But I was having some trouble finding the right drive strengths and/or RTTs.
*My 5900X starts throwing WHEA as soon as I push FCLK over 1833 and even that might be borderline. Spent way too long messing with voltages with no results.

>>105582745
>But I was having some trouble finding the right drive strengths and/or RTTs
yeah i don't have any good advice for that
you need to run settings that are borderline stable and try different combinations to see how the kit responds
for me 40/40 ClkDrvStr/AddrCmdDrvStr are by far the best for this setup, the rest doesn't really matter
>My 5900X starts throwing WHEA as soon as I push FCLK over 1833 and even that might be borderline. Spent way too long messing with voltages with no results
damn, that's sad
i believe you

>>105582662
heat is wattage, you can think of the pc as effectively a space heater of however many W it's pulling every second
if you don't want to cook alive in the room lower the pc's wattage. undervolt, framerate cap, lower settings, power cap
if it's mostly idle make sure your idle wattages are in check (shitty software can add 10-50w just sitting, same for stupid jeetware performance tips like disabling power saving features for 0.2% benefit)
a watercooled pc sitting at 45C yet pulling 500w will heat your room exactly the same as the same pc hitting 80C pulling the same 500w

>>105582695
This was my timings before the recent one I just posted, all I did manage was to lower tRDWR, tWRRD and tRDRDSD/DD. I confirmed the changes didn't mess with stability. I will try to play around with the voltages again.

>>105582900
>all I did manage was to lower tRDWR, tWRRD and tRDRDSD/DD
maybe you need 3+ tWRRD
you can try 2T (GDM disabled) as well

i don't know, lots of things you could try, but right now you're running worse tCL than XMP (3200C14 = 8.75 ns, 3800C18 = 9.5 ns) so it should not be the kit limiting you

>tfw when you double your FPS and while using 1/4th of the power your old PC was using
imma finna nut

>>105582556
SIX HUNDRED WATTS

>>105582949
500 cigarettes.

>>105582946
People really underestimate how efficient new hardware is

>>105581295
Intel Arc Battlemage. Means that Intel is going to be the third option still.

I'm going to fucking do it, I'm going to build a liquid cooling rig!

>>105582932
>>105582958
>zhe's not silentmaxxing

>>105582981
>-P

>>105582981
that poor motherboard lol, has to support that and a 4090 sized GPU.

>>105582969
Easy done when there's stories about 4090s/5090s catching fire and the default configs on all high end CPUs and GPUs are pushing them way beyond their efficiency peak. People I know are always amazed when I tell them they can drop just a little performance in exchange for massive gains in temps and noise.

I need help PCGB. I want to build a PC. I'm thinking about the GPU.
I heard when it comes to AI Nvdia is lightyears ahead of AMD and there's no reason to buy an AMD GPU if you want to do any ai stuff.
Is that true?
And is AI stuff literally just generating porn images or is there actually useful stuff someone can do off his GPU?

>>105582981
>>105583010
Why don't we just design PC's to work on their sides instead of like expecting gravity to not fuck over these parts?

>>105583080
It depends heavily on the card and what you want to do with it. I happily generate anime tiddies all day on a 6900XT. The setup is more of a faff but it's easy done.
I don't think RDNA4 cards have the library support to make it work yet though (at least on windows).
As for doing actually useful stuff with it I don't really know lol.

>>105583080
look through the ai generals
they seem to only entrance obsessive coomers dumping out the trashiest slop, text, image, video, it doesn't matter
for normal people it's an interesting novelty for maximum of a day then you start to see through the illusion

give it to me straight /pcbg/, will hardware prices go up in a few months?

>>105583122
I've been a wait fag for 5 years, the answer is always yes. they never go down, old stuff goes down, buying second hand goes down but actual stuff never goes down.

>>105583122
they will keep rising until the exact moment you've received your parts.

>>105583122
painfully up only in case of a black swan
lightly up would only compensate for inflation
most likely stagnate or very slight insignificant down
>>105583150
also this. used is always the best play if you have ways to not to get ripped off

>>105582949
>tfw we're just WARMING-UP

Do you think the 6080 will have 16GB of VRAM?

I'm trying to upgrade an old laptop (if possible) and was hoping for some help from the knowledgeable people here.
I was going to get some better ram and possibly a better processor if it's not soldered in. I had a quick look inside and I want to avoid breaking anything like a cave man so I thought I'd ask before I go too deep or force anything.
Firstly I'm assuming this ram is not soldered, but can't work out the mechanism to release it. Possibly lift then pull?
Also I can't tell if this CPU is soldered or not? I'm assuming it is but honestly don't know.
If anyone needs any specs etc to help answer my questions, I can provide.

>>105583080
>And is AI stuff literally just generating porn images or is there actually useful stuff someone can do off his GPU?
If you don't know, why would you care about this when buying a GPU?

>>105583221
I think it will come in 8GB with PREMIUM EXPANDABLE VHSPD VRAM MODULE CONNECTED TO VHPWR AT JUST $99.99 A GIG

>>105583223
Here's the CPU, minus heat sync

>>105583241
you say that jokingly but VRAM was actually replaceable at one point in time lol it'd be cool if they brought it back but obviously they wont.

>>105583230
My ignorance has rarely ever been protection in the face of future revelations.

>>105583223
CPU might just be secured to that 1 screw bracket. It probably wouldn't be worth it to upgrade the CPU over buying a new laptop. RAM doesn't look soldered in. DDR3 DIMM sticks are very cheap. i remember using an old laptop for back in high school with 64gb of ram :D

Yes

>>105583223
https://youtu.be/V-lrI3Kswrs?si=96O3_C2qqAOB6h0i&t=278
Timestamp 4:40 is how it usually releases. Try that and pulling it out of the slot.

>>105583223
probably not worth the hassle to upgrade
picrel pull those things away the ram should pop upwards, reverse to install

>>105583276
Thanks for the reply, yeah the ram I saw was very cheap so definitely viable. Processors not so much. This is an old pc specialist laptop so was hoping the CPU wasn't soldered

Do I need a GPU stand? For a RTX 5080

>>105583310
They aren't as heavy or saggy as the 40 series so not really. I don't since I have bottom intake fans. The PCIE latch and screwing it into the case evenly with screws on the metal part makes it wobble free and perfectly parallel. If your card is made of heavier materials like titanium or gold or some shit it might be worth it to use the GPU support.

>>105583310
it's a better safe than sorry thing
but such high end high cost hardware should have a proper pcb reinforcement brace, right..?
if you get one do install it properly, as in do not make it apply upwards pressure on the card, it should simply rest on it

>>105583310
Mobos have reinforced 5.0 slots, but I would not risk that shit. GPU holders come in all shapes and forms and they are 5-20 bucks on amazon. Hence, you can even make your own holder with toilet paper roll, or legos - whatever you have. And check it with level meter - those are pennies at nearby hardware store or amazon.

>build 6k 5090 rig
>play 30 year old sprite based games rendered at 24fps

which is better value;
7800xt for 445€
or
rx9070 for 610€?

or is there a better amd card between 400-700 that has better value

>>105583497
FOR THOSE WHO DARE!

>>105583497
This but 2000s visual novels

>>105583532
90-series is better simply because you get FSR4 there - more and more games will support that moving forward. So with AMD card I would not go prev generations since AMD said it is impossible to get new features there.

>>105583532
7800xt is better value at those prices unless you really value h264 encoding quality, ray tracing performance and, as the other guy said, FSR4.

>>105583497
>"And this, my dear, is my Bloons TD 6 machine."

should I go higher than 32gb ram in 2025?

>>105583497
>why yes, I paid 3000 dollars to play Nubby's Number Factory

>>105583623
>she doesn't know about ram rot

>>105583623
i have my browser open when playing UE5 game and modded games regularly see it right at 32gb used. 64gb is the new 32gb.

>get it as early as June 10th!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

~$235
>refurbished hp pavilion tower (12100, 8gb but I replace it with 16gb, 512GB ssd)
but then I install a $100 GTX 1650 or a $200 3050 6GB

or

$450-500
>beelink SER8 (8745hs, 780m, 32gb ddr5 5600, 1TB ssd)

which would you choose

guys i need "strong" white colored CPU case fans. Does any one have any suggestions? Ty

what's the difference between 30-36-36-76 ram and 30-36-36-96 ram?
I'm looking for a good ram 2x32 gb ram kit

>>105583809
>I'm looking for a good ram 2x32 gb ram kit
buy the one listed on your mobo qvl

>>105583334
>>105583472
I will boughted one just to be sure :)

>>105583843
Forgot your deserved (you) bro >>105583330. Have fun with the dopamine hit

>>105583497
ngl. I've just been using my rig for shitposting.

>>105583809
lower = better as long as the speed is the same. look at mobo compatibility table to see what you can support. your CPU will drive what RAM speed you can get, ensure it has XMP / EXPO support depending on your manufacturer

>>105583761
Noctua Chromax is what you're looking for

>>105583843
It's honestly better this way as it also depends on your GPU manufacturer. Asus Astral 5080 and 90 for example are bricks.

>PC been working flawlessy since I built it 3 months ago
>now randomly after a while it becomes really slow, and mouse input won't work anymore
Could a driver issue cause this? I have a 9070xt...

>amd releases 5500X3d in Latin America
what about SEA fucking AMD

>>105583761
ignore me (>>105583889) i suck cocks and didn't realise they never actually made them
Try EK Vardar

I got myself this AORUS FO27Q3. I ran pixel cleaning on it an now I'm left with these huge vertical bars on the display even after running HDR video content for several hours. Should I just get a return and buy another one?

>>105581912
> any tips on applying the frame
Just follow the instructions that come with it. You don't need to install the rubber sealing unless you intend to put conductive liquid metal on the heatspreader. Don't overtighten the screws!

>>105583944
Online they suggest to do a pixel cleaning/refresh again but for me this would be a good reason to RMA and get a different monitor.

AOC Gaming Q27G4XND 1440p monitor looks like a great budget monitor. My current one is also from AOC, I'm thinking of getting this one. Why should I not?

do niggas really use GPU stands instead of some random shit that fits

I'm struggling to find a replacement CPU for this old laptop.
The motherboard is a notebook w54_55su1,suw
Current CPU is an intel i3-4100m
What is compatible and actually better?

>>105583910
Anyone? I can't imagine it being anything but drivers... all my temps are good etc and nothing seems wrong.

>>105584063
I'm sure you just use your butt plug but not all of us are gay anon.

How come nvidia keeps making top performing card with no competition?
Why AMD can't make faster GPU? Can't they just add more than on nvidia card?

>>105581912
You can use this guide as reference for the ASRock BIOS, there is no guide specifically for your mobo.

https://download.asrock.com/Manual/Software/AMD%20X870/Software_BIOS%20Setup%20Guide_English.pdf

DO NOT USE AUTO DRIVER INSTALLER! Download from your mobo's support page and install manually only the drivers you need and maybe the ASRock motherboard utility and the comfy "Restart to UEFI". You don't need: the AMD AI NPU driver, the AMD graphics driver (if you have and use a dedicated GPU), the SATA Floppy Image, the APP Shop, Norton, Nahimic, possibly even none of the RGB if you have no showcase.

>>105584103
My plug is too big THOUGH

>>105584063
My PC tower came with implemented GPU support.

>>105584095
does it completely freeze up? reseat (take them out and back in) your ram/nvmes

>>105584189
First it randomly restarted during night, then it got really slow after a bit and stuff like my wallpappers turend black.
Then last time it got really really slow and my mouse stopped working.

>>105582420
Use taiphoon burner to read your RAM's SPD and identify it's chips:
https://www.thaiphoonburner.com/

Then use this calculator for the settings, picrel worked stable for my G.Skill B-die:
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

>>105584212
then make sure all your power cables are plugged in right while you're at it

>>105584232
I reset all my BIOS settings, if it happens again I'll do that. Thanks.

Is the 5090 aio worf or should I step it down to one of the air cooled models

>>105584316
>$3913.79
lol

>>105583761
Arctic P14Max White
https://www.arctic.de/en/P14-Max-White/ACFAN00304A

>expo 1 every field is set to 'auto'
>expo 2 every field has a specific value
which one do I use? Both are stable and I can't tell the difference at all

>>105584316
>platinum, not titanium

>>105584337
Nothing wrong with platinum.

>>105583497
for me it's modded Morrowind. Money well spent

Where can I buy an intel core i7-4610m that isn't from eBay? You guys know any reliable sources that don't require an account to purchase?

>>105583497
Bonus points if you're poor.

Important question; what are some good cases (either midi or full towers) that go well with Dexler wooden furniture and desks and banker lamps? Preferably newer than 2004.

>>105584337
>not even ruby
lol
lmao

>>105584337
>titanium, not ruby

>>105584350
you're spending fucking thousands of dollars and you can't put in the last $50 to get a titanium? fuck off.

>>105584392
I can't believe this nigga. Get like a flat panel one and you get some wood effect vinyl put on to match. Or you could get a curvy one and have it painted to match by an artist/professional lad

>>105584413
I used the shit in the first post, should I not get the best overall psu

>>105584413
I'm nta but I also spent thousands and still use a platinum PSU, a Dark Power Pro 11 rated 1000W.

>>105584491
the OP is always bullshit. always get a titanium if you can. wtf?
>>105584508
stay out of it platinumfag. he doesn't have to make the same mistake

I got my new video card but it would not latch properly. Then I discovered that my old video card also did not latch properly but still ran and I somehow never noticed. Apparently my motherboard's heatsink blocks my GPUs from installing properly. I removed the heatsink from the motherboard and it locks into place just fine but that leaves the motherboard without a heatsink.

So I guess I need a new motherboard. And if I am going that far I might also get a new CPU.

So what new motherboard should I get? USA and the computer will ONLY be used for gaming. I have a media PC already. So I just need the PC version of a console pleb but I don't need to go overboard. I just want to vidya. So budget is not really a major point but I don't want to overspend for what I need.

Current CPU is a RYZEN 7 3700X but I can upgrade that as well if needed.

>>105584475
>I can't believe this nigga.
Is it hard to believe that some still manage to run across the old American wood & upholstery interior style or manage to keep that stock?

>>105584543
Okay okay, you have some style. What about my suggestion though? I don't think you'll find any other resolution. Maybe a brass case if possible? Imagine the polishing required though

>>105584582
Does normal sized modern GPU even fits there?

>>105584095
i had a laptop that would do that because the SSD overheated. fucking lenovo can't into airflow.

>>105584587
>What about my suggestion though?
I'm thinking I'm thinking, got some primer and spray paint at the very least if not some spare pieces of wood to tack on to an existing chassis so I could try to do some of it myself.
>brass case
It would certainly go well with one the lamps, though it might be wise to limit that to legs if the case has those. The other choice is just going with whatever beige box you can find (I'm personally a fan of having front bays of both sizes) or repainting a black box into beige with some little nick-knacks attached. Would probably go just as well with this desk if it sat next to it or on top of it.

>>105584665
Wood is a good insulator so I wouldn't recommend lining the outside of a case with wood. Just something thin like vinyl, paint or maybe a roll of wood veneer actually lad. Full brass case would be class though, golden bling station basically.
You ever bought anything off Ali express? Alright to sign in with Google account to buy stuff?

>>105580618 (OP)
Casual here. I am currently running 1660Ti with 5700X3D. The graphic cards is showing its age a bit and I am thinking about upgrading. I think I will still be on 1080p for a while gamingwise. I also don't really want to spend more than 500 euros for a new card. What would you guys recommend I upgrade to?

Celestial waitchad here.

>>105584786
>What would you guys recommend I upgrade to?
5090

>>105582314
It's dropped a bit in price which is okay
The issue is that it's got the same
>performance
>vram
>access to dlss
>power consumption
as a 4070 Super for pretty much the same price as a 4070 Super. the only real difference is access to MFG
here in yurop it was sold for a bit more than a 4070S at launch, but it's since dropped below MSRP and is now a more appealing option even if the generational improvement is absolute garbage

>>105584786
9060xt

>want to buy a mobo and 7800x3d
>pretty much any mobo within 200-230 eur i check does not have 6000 cl30 at qvl for 7k series - there are 6000 but with much higher timings
>red font says that running at or above 5600 is my own risk
what do?

Good Am4 mobo?

>>105584915
Don't pretty much all AM5 CPUs manage 6000CL30 just fine? When I bought my 7950X3D system I quite literally picked up the cheapest 64GB 6000CL30 kit I found at the shop and it all just werked.

Lian Li O11 Air Mini or Lian Li Lancool 207?

What motherboard would you pair a 7500F with? Keeping value in mind. I currently have a 2070S but will be gifted a 3080TI later this year.

>>105584971
Ryen 7 5700x with 2x dual channel 3200 ram btw

>>105584971
my advice would be 6 years out of date as that's when the tomahawk boards were popular

>>105585011
yeah, i think so, just wondering about these mobo pages of "qualified ram" - like, how worried should i be if my kit is not on the mobo qvl? pretty much whatever mobo i check - their lists are full with slower ram

>>105585017
sauce?

I 'revived' a motherboard + CPU I thought was dead, but one of the RAM dimm's doesn't work.

What's the most effective way to stress test. I'm no opposed to purchasing software if it's a worthwhile investment.

>>105585113
prime95 n cinebench are good free ones that can test stability

>>105584971
More band/chipset related than anything. Every brand has had their share of controversies and lemons, but I personally gravitate to Asrock, and then aim for the B550 chipset. A520 is "fine™" but you won't be able to overclock.

Avoid going uber cheap as you're more likely to receive a lemon.

>>105585038
any will do
maybe some x570 or whichever ones have pcie4 and 5000 support out of the box if you can't update the bios otherwise

>>105585161
>brand not band
Fixed

Why are motherboard brands equally shit?

>>105585209
I like ASUS
>overpriced
>stupid gimmicks
>terrible warranty
>armoury crate
but I cant recommend them.

>>105585178
There’s an Asrock b550m-hdv available
No idea if i’ll have to update the bios

>>105585209
Two things:
First, because it's consumer hardware, and companies don't give a fuck about your insignificant budget (Nvidia certainly doesn't)...
And second, what are you comparing it to? Gaming is resource intensive, and as such, will push the the components harder.

>>105585239
Most motherboards have a BIOS flashing feature that technically doesn't meed a processor installed to do so. Check the product manual for details.

I have a similar motherboard. and again, it's 'fine™"

Asrock is nice and cheap but now I'm scared of buying mobos from them

>>105585281
Why not MSI or Asus?

>>105585336
>scared
Why?

>>105585336
Fucking why?
Again, every motherboard has their share of skeletons
>Asrock currently fries -X3D chips
>Asus like cranking performance to 11 without caring for component longevity
>Gigabyte chronically loves swapping out components for cheaper versions

I don't have an personal experience with MSI, but I'm generally not a fan of their software and UI. If you do get a lemon, use it as a learning experience and/or an inherent risk to the hobby.

bumping for >>105583743

>>105585350
Asus was frying -X3D chips when they initially came out, and it was revealed that Asus is a little overzealous with a lot of their 'automatic' settings.

Again, I don't have any personal experience with MSI--despite the fact I fucking love their GPU's, but I'm not a fan of their UI on the odd occasions I've had to use it.

>>105585400
I remember one of the comparison videos that looked into the x3d frying of asrock boards and I think Asus are the only ones that run the 9800x3d at close to 1.25V SoC voltage. All others are around 1.2V.

>>105585391
Depends on what you want to do with it, but I personally would get the Beelink option.

The processor in the HP is bare-fucking-minimum.

>>105585424
Like I keep saying, they've all had their lemons, so I would go with whatever has the most/best features, and try to avoid anything that uses software solutions, ie. requires additional software to use.

>>105585437
yeah but it costs less and AFAIK the 1650 is as fast as the 780m. 3050 6gb would even be a bit faster and cost basically the same.

>>105585391
Is the HP tower a proper standard ATX job? No BIOS lockouts, nonstandard connectors, or cut-down power supply etc?

Affordable 32 GB gpu when? WHEN???

>>105585483
no, it's literally shit like https://ebay.us/m/o96mwv

12VO psu, proprietary motherboard, et cetera. it could handle one of these little slot-powered GPUs though. IDK if thermals would permit it but maybe.

>>105585483
Everything in this post, on top of the fact it has a shitty CPU.

Either get the Beelink or save your money for a better computer.

>>105585502
Link's broken, yo

>>105585521
fuck, here's the retarded ugly link then

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126770784734?_skw=%2812100%2C+12300%2C+12400%2C+12500%2C+5300g%2C+5600g%2C+5700g%29&epid=7061959363&itmmeta=01JXNHR3RY5SN33T9EYEZ5KW9Q&hash=item1d8420a9de:g:ELAAAOSwHWhoO0Vh&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAABEFkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1drrEWHMJnyDRtI1fVkJv6IhywRc%2FIQPkhAGt1Amqu0XgBZW4X3NPGPRjLy0svctEH4VxibKIiPWs7Rwt3EQUEvct5WVmLA0QLOnBjfR9vJRekoUTQKmlCkv8%2FQLnmGoynRgNugg1X%2F56cJ%2Bm%2FA%2B2uwUZv7gbjki9Xd3x8kpHeZ2sgN%2F4RLGnsBckzyVRGkvB7%2FyPFOeLckbmaOW%2FnARrtJ8N8n4fldflvep891lfo5Qgsf1KuPlu%2FzfnavdodjBCLnlt6zmXq00R7H4zWQrRm4u2xqCmOn%2BlqwKL0NATKw8V23cMbi08MpnfRQ7Hb4khjABcw0kvaoRYAQGLypJk3A%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-i84LHtZQ

>>105585502
Unfortunate. Were it a real PC I'd prefer it since the 1650 would be better and you can do some incremental upgrades. Going to side with >>105585513 and say to go for the mini PC if you absolutely cannot save any more. Either that or look around for a similar office PC with standard parts.

>Gigabyte AORUS ELITE GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB
>PCIe 8-pin
>EUR 569
why do i need more?

>>105585513
>>105585543
i can find stuff with standardized parts but they're always like $400+

i use this search https://www.ebay.com/sch/179/i.html?_nkw=%2812100%2C+12300%2C+12400%2C+12500%2C+5300g%2C+5600g%2C+5700g%29&_from=R40&_sop=15&_blrs=recall_filtering

in order to avoid the 13th/14th gen intel and their weird oxidizing problems.DESU i'm just trying to avoid building something as I'm not 100% sure what I want. I haven't had a proper windows desktop in like 7 years. haven't even had a desktop with a dedicated GPU in 10 years. maybe I should just get the stupid beelink. I get really really weary with these chinese brands though.

Is it normal for CPUs and iGPUs to clock in this sort of all or nothing way? My cpu at least has a small step before it clocks to the max but the iGPU just immediately goes to max even if its just a tiny load.

Am I wrong? nothing feels like an upgrade from a 1060 ti?

>>105585589
Depends on the workload
I wouldn't worry about it unless it (severely) impacts whatever application or use-case.

>>105585592
You're wrong and poor

>>105583089
wait until you hear about rack servers.

How much more powerful is the 9800x3d compared to the 5700x3d?

>>105585614
>>105585614
im playing pretty much every modern game even Oblivion remaster.

>>105585610
On no its fine. I just looked for ways to make my system run cooler and noticed that it did that. The temps are within range even when doing stress tests so these spikes are not a problem but they are just a little weird. I know its a desktop so power usage is not an issue but i still expected some middle ground.

>>105585017
When picking motherboards I usually just look at the features I need and then pick one of the cheaper models that also has a decent VRM heatsink. I don't really think there's any major differences between them nowadays.

>>105585067
In my experience it doesn't actually matter as long as you go for the 'reasonable sweetspot' settings, like 3200 or even 3600MT/s on AM4 and 6000CL30 on AM5. I even have 4 DIMMs from 2 different kits in one of my AM4 systems and it still does 3200 with no issue. If you want to OC memory or hand-tighten timings or use 4 DIMMs (on AM5 especially, just stick with 2) then you might need to start doing more in-depth research but if not then it should be fine. It's still not technically guaranteed so you could still end up with a complete lemon of a memory controller on the CPU which just won't do it, but odds are it's going to work fine.

>>105585636
in best conditions where you have a super fast GPU and super low resolution: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/17.html

>5060ti 16gb for $600
>9060xt 16gb for $460
These are the prices from my country in USD. I haven't bought a GPU since 2010 and only have a 1080 office screen for now. Does it make a difference to the answer if I get 7600 or 7800x3d

Can you not permanently limit power draw on 5090s to below 600 watts and avoid melting?

>>105585588
Yeah neither one is a great option. The problem, at least as I see it, is that the HP machine is basically the same thing as the Beelink except bigger and with a worse CPU. If it was standard then you'd have the option of upgrading it over time as you come in to funds (I'm assuming you're a student/NEET).

>>105585646
>Turn off PBO and/or lower the TDP if your computer/BIOS has the options for it.

Modern computers are so overpowered today that you could stand to give up maybe 5% of performance for a cool and quiet PC. I turn personally lower the TDP for all my computers.

>>105585646
Modern CPUs downclock hard, even disabling cores altogether, to save power. Then they boost hard - to make the system seem responsive - which is what you're seeing. If it's annoying you with fan noise you should program some step time in to your fan curve.

>>105585658
do you care about

>CUDA
>productivity applications that could use your GPU
>AI, LLMs, image generation

if yes then you have to pick nvidia

iirc the actual performance difference in games is like 6% faster for the nvidia. so you're paying for the Nvidia feature set.

Just cleaned my PC in about 30 minutes, gotta keep those temps below 50c B)

>>105585664
i'm a NEET. i have $4k. i'll probably take the beelink and see what happens. fuck. sort of dreading getting it and it randomly dying on me or something.

>>105585661
it melts not specifically because of watts - it melts because of shit-tier housefire 12vhpwr connector

>>105585661
Yes, you can undervolt the card or power limit it in Afterburner.

>>105585680
I already did that. Its crazy how far these things clock. I not noticed any change in performance too.

>>105585697
> If it's annoying you with fan noise you should program some step time in to your fan curve.
I do not hear my computer at all. When i play some demanding vidya, sure but its not like the noctua is struggling with this thing.

>>105585712
Frankly that's no more or less likely than the HP.

>mfw playing GTA V modded at 144fps at 200w
>lower power usage than a console with a 16 core chip
kekerdoo

>>105585732
you're probably right. must be reason for them reselling so many of those things on eBay.

>>105585747
They just buy them at auctions when companies upgrade or go bust. Does the Beelink come with a warranty? Ideally from the US retailer.

>>105585766
They'll provide a 1 year warranty, but lets not pretend it's going to be great customer service or fast.

>>105585793
Indeed. Though again I'd expect the same from the Ebay seller. By the way, what do you actually want to use this PC for? I've been assuming mostly gaming but if it's literally a 4chan machine then the Beelink is just straight-up superior.

>Dynamic Refresh Rate
I would enable this in Windows, but I do not trust them to have programmed this correctly. they're even more incompetent than the noVidio drivers team.

Bought a used CPU from eBay, any chance it will all be alright?

>>105585820
It makes my screen flicker bad

>>105585820
If you manage to get it working its like magic. Sadly it only works under wayland for me but when its running as intended its amazing. I would give it a try anon.

>>105580618 (OP)
what the hell is this AMDUnboxed shit now

>>105585819
basic browser/office + random games/mods to mess around in

and yeah, it'd be the same with the ebay seller and the shitty HP. Thanks for the help anon.

>>105585963
You're welcome.

i just upgraded and the new mobo is messing with the power of all connected usb devices when turning the pc on/restarting it
checked bios and deep sleep is disabled, and i enabled S5 power for usb, but it still is randomly switching my hub and screen light, because it fully cuts and connects power
what else do i need to set to solve this?
AsRock Steel Legend B850M

Got my dad some ram for fathers day (which I will install), from 6gb to 16gb. Aren't I a good boy?

It seems my 5070 Ti can't properly play movies and I don't know why. Everything is blurry with some ghosting .

>Lian Li Lancool 207

I keep finding posts complaining about front fans being very loud and badly designed.

Is this case actually good or not?

>>105586174
You could just replace them?

>>105586197
Why not buy case with decent fans from the start?

>>105586205
well the 207 is one of the top performing cases. any good case is going to have loud(er) fans just because they care more about thermal performance than noise.

>>105586174
>>105586205
If you're serious about it you'll actually replace the stock case fans because they suck ass and are louder than something like a 3 pack of arctic p12s.

>>105586132
>5070 ti
If you're still in the return period get your money back and buy a 9070 XT or enjoy the AI coded drivers nvidiot.

>>105586260
But I like it. Especially how it makes no noise and has no coil whine. It just has other issues. Those shitty drivers makes me feel like I'm on Linux again.

Holy fucking SHIT I'm never buying NVIDIA again

>>105586280
>Wuthering waves

It should crash

>>105586295
the old drivers don't work and the new drivers are even worse

I'll probably buy this once my 5090 arrives next week. This seems like a good 4k monitor.

9060XT vs 5060TI/16g
which one bruddas? mixed 1080p/1440p

>>105586327
9060 xt if 80 dollars or more cheaper.

>>105586346
415 eur (amd) vs 560 eur (nvidia)

>>105586327
see >>105585698

im assuming the XT is the 16GB model btw

>>105586363
seems like an easy choice then

>>105586374
yup, both i check only 16g variants. not doing any ai, dont know what cuda is for, i just want to be able to play at 1080p/1440p resolution, and i want just normal experience not necessarily in new titles - but also to run older games smoothly. i heard nvidia has some problems with physx removal from never series or something - i kinda want to able to play whatever came out before current year too

>>105586395
if you are certain that you don't give a fuck about CUDA stuff or AI, then yeah the AMD option is the better value for games assuming drivers are stable and w/e. in games, the 5060TI is only like 6% faster than the 9060 xt 16gb

>Have to fake my GPU as a RTX 4090 to enable certain graphics options
I FUCKING HATE VIDEO GAMES
INDUSTRY IS RIGGED

>>105586410
>5070 AI

Umm im pretty sure it would crash trying to run sd xl with loras on 12gb

>>105586216
>>105586238

207 was specifically designed for 30mm fans, no other fans fit perfectly in that case.

>>105586410 >>105586389
thanks anons, will go 9060 then. would love to go 9070xt but these stupid prices are literally 2x. and prices between 9070 and 9070xt make it pointless to go for regular 9070. i think i'd rather change these mid-level gpus every now and then

>>105586512
what? he said 5060 ti 16gb anon

GPU prices aren't real. They are because TACO is trying to stop china from buying GPU's and beating the USA in the AI RACE.

>>105586534
Jensen made the 4090D just to sell to china lel
>CAPTCHA:ACKKK

>OLED monitor
>required pixel cleaning
>every 4 hours
>takes up to 10 minutes

Explain yourselves, OLED anons. How did you get down this bad?

>>105586534
GPU prices are mostly up the store and every store just takes AMDs price and +75-300+ for Nvidia.

>>105586665
4 hours is the avg time any screen is on, not just oled. people step away from their room/desk sometime you know.

How come paint comes off commonly used keys in months on some keyboards while others don't give a fuck and can last years? I have a decade-old gaymen kb where only LCtrl is completely gone because I sometimes neglect to clip nails and scratch it, and the rest are mostly fine. How do I make sure the next one I buy is at least as "durable"?

>>105586734
double shot keycaps. they're part of the plastic instead of a label/painted on. also PBT instead of ABS apparently

>>105586778
>>105586778
>>105586778

>>105586665
since I have not shit posted here constantly in the past year or so as the CEO and founder of the OLED Shit List, I will explain to you briefly my beef with OLED monitors

Firstly, Oled TVs have existed longer than monitors, they are not as retarded as monitor manufacturers, since they invented the fucking tech, oled pixel refreshes are handled in the background invisible to the user and usually runs when you shut off the tv after it has accumulated enough ours, although there have been some fuck ups with tvs too where it does not work like this

Moving on to the monitor side, Now people started implementing the refresh cycles and what not according to spec, the retarded manufacturers/firmware designers thought it was a good idea to have a pop up every 4 hours, that could however be extended or moved up to more hours, eventually leading forced refresh every 16 hours at worse, if they are retarded that is, any monitor that behaves like this ends up in the shit list

The other manufacturers choose to not have a 16 hour accumulated forced refresh and simply handle these refreshes invisible to the user in the background, can't verify completely as you need to run these monitors 16h+ to verify, but I am guessing it works like that, most people can't handle real usage

now you might say that 16 hours is enough and nobody needs to run their monitor that long continuously, you are wrong, even msi bent the knee and are extending it to 24 hours in their newer models because they realize I am right and they are retarded, secondly, firmware does not work as expected and the counter does not operate as it should or even activate a pixel refresh correctly in standby, meaning, the 16 hour counter will end up fucking up and annoying you at random times

adding to the problem most reviewers are too casual/paid to even mention this
this is the no1 problem plaguing (Certain) oled manufacturers

even the non misbehaving ones also have buggy firmware in some instances too

>>105586773
Thanks, will look into that.

>>105586312
sauce on pic rel? reverse image search is so bad now

Great I just bricked my mobo
I misread and installed the BIOS for my CPU for an X470 Gaming Plus
And I have an X470 Gaming Pro
Now it doesn’t even boot, just a black screen
Fuck me sideways…

>>105586665
my Samsung monitor does it automatically when I turn it off for the night