>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/DYQCcJwH

Previous: >>105597893

PC gaming won

At what point should I consider upgrading a 6900XT, assuming I play at 4k144Hz?

>>105603495 (OP)
X3Ds were debunked

>built my PC a week ago
>updated the MOBO bios before installing the OS, set my RGBs, even set fan curves
>just realized I haven't updated the GPU drivers
>but, Nvidia

4070 Super, might as well ask: How stable are the most recent drivers? Before building my PC, I kept reading and watching a lot of stories about how the current drivers were causing random black screens, and honestly I haven't played any new modern games yet since I'm still missing a decent monitor, I've been sticking to older games I had in my Steam account and pixelshit while plugged to my TV in the meantime. Also, I'm not sure if those issues were specifically with Series 5000 cards and if that's the case, I want to be sure that I'll be safe if I update my GPU to the latest version.

>>105603541
just werks on linux

>>105603518
I'd wait for the 9090 XT or whatever their stupid naming scheme is now. No reason to upgrade until then.

MSI is selling 9800x3D's at $435 when combo'd with one of their mobo's. There has to be some catch, right? Bad warranty?

>>105603675
they explode

>>105603515

>>105603520
the whole op is trash

I wonder how many hapless newfags will fall for the shill OP and FAFO. You don't stop amd shills. You just let people learn the hard way.

>>105603515

>>105603675
There was some issue with them exploding but it turned out to be user error I think. Seems fine now, but it was an MSI board both times.
>We're still pretty sure it was either a spate of faulty LGA sockets or possibly just a story of two users who didn't install their CPUs correctly.
Even a 7800X3D combo isn't that cheap. That's a shockingly good deal. Frankly, I'd risk it just for the price alone. I assume it's new too.

>>105603853
I thought that was an issue with Asrock boards. What other brands were affected?

Is this the right place to ask about overclocking/undervolting?
I got a 9600x and I'm undervolting using AMD's PBO Curve Optimizer to crank every core down to -52 and it's still passing ycruncher. AMD's official Ryzen Master app only recommends going to -30 so I was wondering if I'm doing something wrong since I've gone so far past recommended. Is there any place with expected numbers a 9600x can hit?

>>105603520
They weren't debunked. They're just not as necessary above 1080p as people assume. Still buying one though.

>>105603711
>>105603853
>>105603860
I've been using a 9800X3D since they came out with the Asrock 870E Nova board and had zero issues even with the old ass BIOS which I just now updated today for the first time since I got these parts.

>>105603850

>>105603825
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105586778/#105587941
>Still seething two days later
What will they find out? That AMD drivers actually work? Go back to r/nvidia tard.

>>105603923
They will find out there's a reason these new shit AMD cards are still not even at 1% on the steam hardware survey yet even though Nvidia cards which released afterwards all are kek.

How much of a uplift is upgrading from a 5800x3d to a 9800x3d?

>105603934

so amd is r*ddit? glad I have a 3090 ti

>>105603869
>AMD's official Ryzen Master app

>>105603948
>>105603958
For everyone keeping score at home, this is the first time there's ever been problems with Nvidia drivers, but problems like this are eternal with AMD software year after year for its entire existence, hence why no one uses their trash.

>105603966

>>105603946
you will never notice it unless you are running some very intense cpu workloads, but even then it will seem like a margin of error in real world vs benchmarks. wait at least till am6 and 12c single ccd.

Anyone running Intel Arc?

Hello friends,

What's a good thermal paste?
I need it to be non-conductive, reasonably high performance and cheap.
I would prefer it to not be made in China, but I will make a concession if the price is right.

I got +10% memory benchmark after doing buildzoid timings bwos

>>105604014
kryosheet - just put and forget. it is only a tiny bit worse than the best thermal pastes out there and does not lose it's qualities over time.

>>105604033
>kryosheet
>I need it to be non-conductive

>105603981
>December before Shartwell was even released
>Nvidia tries to copy what radein has had for years with adrenalin and get rid of their control panel from the 2000s
>It's a piece of shit codes with chat gpt that caused performance issues
Keep suffering. Smug nvidiots are getting karma for laughing at Polaris and rdna 1 driver issues all those years ago.

>>105604048
>using my 4090 on a stable build because I don't update my drivers all the time

I'll enjoy playing games flawlessly at 4k, enjoy your 1080p AMD gaming anon.

>8% and falling

>105603981
>December before Shartwell was even released
>Nvidia tries to copy what radeon has had for years with adrenalin and get rid of their control panel from the 2000s
>It's a piece of shit coded with chat gpt that causes performance issues
Keep suffering. Smug nvidiots are getting their karma for laughing at Polaris and rdna 1 driver issues all those years ago.

>>105604033
It seems a bit pricey, but I guess it wouldn't be bad if I'm maxxing out a socket and the chip will live and die in it.
I still need a paste recommendation for testing/intermediate upgrades.

>>105604047
I think I can manage not to lay a sheet over the board.
I'm mostly concerned about possible drips.

>>105603968
Okay, but I'm not using ASRock and my PPT/TDC/EDC are well below even the AMDs conservative guidelines. Does anyone have any actual data on what kind of numbers a 9600x can pull?

>>105603495 (OP)
10900K to 9800x3d upgrade worth it at 1440p 240hz?

>>105604047
just cut it in size - like it says in instructions. while graphene IS conductive - since this is the install&forget solution - it's conductivity can be completely neglected. it is not evaporating, it is not melting, it is not going to migrate somewhere over time. it is on the same level as you ihs and cooler mount are also "conductive".

>>105604068
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/heres-what-happened-to-the-12vhpwr-power-cable-of-our-nvidia-rtx-4090-after-two-years-of-continuous-work/
How long have you had it? Better check the cable lmao. 12 volt high failure is guaranteed to fail. All 4090 and 5090s will end up I'm the trash after 3-5 years.

>>105604085
pricey - but this is the kind of thing you just put and never touch again unless you replace cpu or cooler. i'm no a TG shill - but this is legit one of the best inventions in thermal compounds, i hate cleaning paste so much. also, if you take more expensive best-of-the-best pastes - there's no actual saving. but if you just want paste - i been using mx-4 since ever before switching to that sheet. yeah losing a couple degrees here and there against top pastes - but the thing cost nothing.

why is the jewvidiapedo banevading now

is it me or is literally everyone and their mother trying to build a pc right now

Summer sales or winter sales for buying hardware?

Tomorrow I'm buying a 7800X3D and an RX 7900 XDX unless someone talks me out of it.

>>105604164
>trying
this. with current prices we can only try, but not actually build lol.

>>105604164
Summer vacation for kids so yeah... literally.

>>105604164
There are way too many faggots and normies that don't even understand how to edit a user config file on pc since covid. Part of the reason gpu launches sell out instantly now and prices are so bad.

>>105604139
Thanks Anon.
I don't OC any of my stuff so anything above average should be fine.
I'll likely use the sheets once I verify that my processors work.
TG claims that the sheets shouldn't be reused once applied; does that mean I should only use them on HBM GPUs, since GDDR VRAM modules require thermal pads and, thus, eventual replacement?

Is an RX 9070 XT really enough for modern gaming or should I just bite the bullet and buy a RTX 4090? I don't like the idea of buying used gpus.

>in markets for a new PC which will cost over 3 fucking grand
>all AM5 boards have a TPM 2.0 vulnerability that needs a bios update and no ability to rollback
Holy shit I'm debating just installing linux and fucking off for another 2-4 years. Is it just a bad time to buy? I don't remember all these failures, frying, and fuckups since the early aughts and capacitor plague.

>>105604310
It's the norm since 2020 now

>>105604189
covid weebs and covid pc builders have ruined everything i loved :(

>>105604191
i only use kryosheet for cpu myself. the notice about non-reuse is because it is extremely fragile (0.2mm graphene sheet) and anything getting onto it (i.e., dust, oils) or damaging it's structure will hammer it's performance.
for gpu i use their carbonaut pad - that one is reusable, but it is just slightly worse than kryosheet (talking about 1-2 degrees here and there).

>>105604307
9070 XT can do 1440p all settings maxed. 4k60 is possible with fsr4 natively supported or modded in with optiscaler, RT will be difficult to run at that resolution though.

>monitor's gsync range is 60-160hz
>think that's retarded
>download cru and change it to 30-160hz instead
>everything seems to work fine
what's the catch? my shit gonna splode when i least expect it?

>>105604164
The last time I built a PC was in 2022. I did upgrade a couple of parts several months ago, but no plans for another build for at least a year or two.

>>105604189
>normies
b2r

>>105604164
>prices the worst they have ever been
>everyone tells everyone else to wait for prices to go down
>everything still sells out
>nvidia and amd make record profits
>prices SITLL keep going up
humanity is doomed as a species

>>105604375
>gysync
>nvidia
Do we tell him guys?

>>105604427
tell him what

>>105604437
Shh. Don't tell him.

>>105604310
how is that a problem
just update

>>105604375
why would you drop below 60hz anon? surely your amazing Nvidia gpu would never drop below 60hz

>>105604437
>he doesn't know

>>105604473
loading screens

>>105604489
because having VRR in a loading screen is helpful... how?

If I wait for a good sale what nvidia GPU should I upgrade to if I only want to spend like 750 bucks max

>>105604514
>750 bucks max
5070ti is you're best bet, or if they release 5070ti super or something

>>105602774
Went with this in the end.
>Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2400 16GB (2x8GB) CL14 RAM
>Crucial P3 M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 1TB SSD

>>105604514
you don't need to upgrade

I like my 5090 but it is definitely the buggiest tech thing I have ever owned in my 34 years on this earth. I'm almost certain there are just hardware defects that nvidia is desperately trying to "fix" with software updates

>>105604514
I've seen the 5070Ti go that low but it sells through quick. Frankly that's the lowest tier that'd be worth considering as the next one down, the 5070, is only a ~20% uplift.

>>105604557
>>105604593
Noted

>>105604569
Yeah I really don't need to but if I can find a great enough deal later down the year and sell my current card for a good enough price I might jump on it

>>105604503
The truth is I just like seeing the numbers move, bitch

>9090 XT

>>105604395
Resale value. If people will still buy a used GPU for 50%+ at the start of the next generation then it holds value pretty well.

Can anyone genuinely tell me why the 50 series has sold so well?

>>105604928
Number go up, more better
Price high too, must be good
Grug buy

>>105604928
Hype and also a lot of people bought the marketing of 5070 = 4090 which I will admit I almost did too until I looked into it more

how long is 16GB gonna last people, really

>>105605030
4 years.

>>105605030
It's already not enough with modern games. I've had crashes due to running out of memory with 32GB.

>>105604928
AMD refusing to put up a fight in the upper bracket, AIB companies fucking up the pricing advantage so dang HARD, Nvidia lowering the pricing on several card to choke them out. The 6900xt/6950xt and 7900xtx guys were left hanging so they looked elsewhere or resumed waiting out this AMD gen.

I wanna move to 4K so badly but my hardware won't run it and I can't get a 5090

>>105605041
Have you tried not playing with 50 chrome tabs open?

I need an audio mixer to merge my gaming consoles into my speaker output. Don't really need to spend a million on a great one so I'd like to keep under budget. Can I get one for fifty bucks that does four inputs? Any recommendations?

>>105605081
I HAVE to have 90+ tabs open at all times.

>>105605081
I've seen people come up to me for help and have all their browser tabs eat up 64gbs of good DDR5 sticks. People joke but this shit occurs more often than it needs to be. Youtube fuckery with ad-blockers lowers the max approximate tabs limit.

>>105605081
>>105605117
>>105605153
Free memory was more than 14GB. Modern games are just hogs.

>>105605041
I've literally never had that happen what kind of slop do you play?

5070ti Gaming OC prices have dropped to about ~$750-800 USD which was converted from $1035-1100 CAD. I wanted to wait for the 5080 ti/super or just splurge on the 5090 but if supply issues get worse for the next generation I may just get this instead.

chrome can handle like 1000+ tabs easy. just takes a bit longer to start up. it doesn't actually load all the tabs into memory and that's not my problem anyway
>being scared to use your own PC
kwab

>>105605178
Over the top Skyrim mods? Does the Oblivion remake have a ton if VRAM heavy mods?

Who are these faggots who bring up power efficiency in consumer parts like it's a big deal? Do you really think that maybe $10 over the lifetime of the computer is going to matter to anyone?
And stop telling people to undervolt, I'm going to double the power consumption and more than double the heat put out by my gpu and processor for a 10-25% gain.

>>105605202
I don't want to play games when it's 90 degrees in the room

>>105605178
It's happened in multiple games, modded and unmodded.

I tried asking this in the other thread but going to try asking again. What are some good GPU manufacturers? It can be for AMD or Nvidia I'm just curious

>>105605234
Well turn on the ac or open a window

>>105605255
For Nvidia go MSI since they are basically Nvidia exclusive now. Or you can pay the ASUS tax or if you can find an FE. Gigabyte seem to have a lot of issues right now.

>>105605255
XFX

>>105604363
>for gpu i use their carbonaut pad
I see.
What do you use for GDDR VRAM and the VRMs?

>>105604928
The 40 series was discontinued.

>>105605183
Wait for the 5080 Super or the Blackwell Titan.

>>105605255
Nvidia (PNY)

>>105605183
buy it then sell it when 24G 5080 super is out

>>105605202
>And stop telling people to undervolt
I want my hardware to last my lifetime.

Does anyone here actually game at 1440p with high refresh monitors? Feels like everyone here is either a giga rich neet with multiple 4k monitors or a turd worlder with 900p monitors.

>>105605153
Never even understood this shit. I never have more than maybe 10 tabs at most open even when actively web browsing or working something because I close whatever I'm not using or don't need anymore. I don't know why people do this to their pc, every browser has bookmarks for a reason.

>>105605424
>Does anyone here actually game at 1440p
i do 1440@165hz not even 5090 can run 4k@165hz so not sure how being rich would help

>>105605424
I used to until a couple years ago when I gave my old 1080Ti and 1440p144Hz monitor to my sister.

>>105605424
you don't have to actually max the refresh rate
high refresh rate monitors are more smooth and less laggy regardless. I like at least 72 fps tho

>>105605424
>1440p with high refresh monitors
they all do
the monitors are $150-$200 that's why everyone is at that coperes and holding 4K gaming back

>>105605527
devs are still "optimizing" around 1080p with dlss on that's what's holding 4k back

how do monitors and viewing distance work. At what distance does one resolution become noticeable over another?

I just want to know when it changed from "nobody plays on ultra settings" to everyone plays on 1080p Ultra settings with upscaling and frame generation

>>105605562
reviewers, developers, and manufacturers united to promote playing badly optimized games at max settings to drive gpu demand

>>105605594
You can just use high. Max is for when gpus in the future can brute force it.

>>105605562
>2000s series is a massive flop
>nobody wants that shit and it's a downgrade in price/performance compared to 1000s
>literally 0 reason to buy new gpus
>oy vey we need to do something
>release dlss and make sure it only works on the newest gen gpus
>tell all devs to release such a slop that it doesnt even work without dlss
>????
>profit

>>105605562
mainly UE5 because it pushed bad TAA which you need DLSS to "fix" but is still le bad
marathon threat interactive and get educated

>>105605621
yeah this was the case even as early as crysis in 2007, and the reason why I like staying 5 years behind on games so that I can max out settings no problem. They still look great to me, also helps that they are on sale for 80% off all the time.

>>105605621
Honestly these days I don't see any difference. Turning down settings doesn't affect how the game runs, only upscaling does.

>>105605424
I vidya on a 4k TV at 120fps. I'm not rich desu the newest games I play are like 5 or 6 years old so this week's flagship benchmarkslop means little to me

>>105605668
>Turning down settings doesn't affect how the game runs
It actually does by shitton especially post processing bullshit

>>105603946
Not worth the hassle. Upgrade to 9950X3D so you can install games from torrents in about half the time.

>>105604014
> What's a good thermal paste?
Thermal Grizzly's Duronaut is awesome. Just warm it up before applying very thinly.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/thermal-grizzly-duronaut-thermal-paste-review-kryonaut-was-yesterday-welcome-to-the-top-10-of-all-pastes/

>>105604307
> modern gaming
The 5070 Ti is certainly enough, not sure about the 9070 XT because it still STILL sucks at Ray Tracing.

>>105605817
ray tracing is STILL a meme

Should I get a 9950X3D instead of a 9800x3d for streaming?

>>105605859
it won't make a difference if you plan on using nvenc, but generally speaking, the 9950x3d is better for productivity

>>105605424
I have a 27"165Hz IPS in my vacation home and YES, I do game with it. I don't need any bigger to have fun, my 32"4k here doesn't make the gameplay any better.

>>105605859
>9950X3D
that's actually a proper CPU the 9800X3D is a gaming meme that sucks at anything except playing games

How are the stock fans on the Fractal North? In a previous thread someone mentioned they were very loud and rattled.

why are intel cpus bad? is it the price or lack of upgrade path?

>>105605823
It's awesome! If only you could afford a GeForce to enjoy it.

>>105605817

>>105605859
> for streaming
This means you will be productive. Get the 9950X3D, it saves you precious time.

>>105604172
Its a waste of money because your current build is fast enough for anything worth playing.

I heard the extra cores get turned off when you are playing games anyway

>>105605901
core ultra cpus are slower than the 14th gen intel cpus, but they use less power

they are really for nobody unless you have a relaly low budget

>>105605916
> AC Shadows
On average the 5070 Ti is 21% faster in RT than the 9070 XT, and 7% faster in raster. See the benchmarks of Gamer's Nexus and Hardware Unboxed.

>>105605906
111 benchmarks with a variety of setting including RT. Stop lying.

>>105605901
12th gen - good
13th gen - kill themselves
14th gen - super massively kill themselves
new shit - performs worse than the old stuff, at gaming, actually pretty good if you don't game

>>105605901
Estrogen cores / thread director

>>105604172
Why would I care what you do with your money? I for one think it's wasted on that outdated hardware but don't let this confuse you, go spend it!

I'm just not feeling the new lancool

>>105605949
Those benchmarks say nothing about how RT looks. GORGEOUS!

>>105605998
neither of them are nice. wood doesnt look good beside computer parts.

>>105605943
Those reviews were done on only a couple games and said games were nvidia sponsored titles with full pathracing. In non pathracing scenarios which is most RT games the performance is a tie. 9070 XT vs 5070 ti performance across the board is practically a tie with a 5% or less difference. The only real advantage the 5070 ti has in full pathtracing modes but FSR redstone is coming in a few months which will improve the performance in these games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoZnL4gbc9Y&t=1629s

any benefit installing AMD Adrenaline? i'm thinking about installing drivers only when i update drivers the next time. (i don't play latest AAA goyslop, i don't care about framegen)

>>105606087
It can be used to configure things like anti-lag, Radeon chill, etc. and configure global settings. It can also be used for recording.

>>105603495 (OP)
B580
>300$
Rx 9060 xt
>600$
Advanced Marketing Disaster btfod by all American intelligent chads

>>105605998
Lancool mesh 2 is still the best as long as you plug up the front hole
>>105606087
You need Adrenaline to turn on Freesync and other features. Windows is like half missing features without it.

>>105606152
>You need Adrenaline to turn on Freesync
you can turn it on via your monitor unless you have some piece of shit screen

>>105606170
It has to be turned on in both windows and your monitor. the option in settings does nothing, only the adrenaline toggle.

https://8kassociation.com/industry-info/display-week-sees-new-8k-developments/
From SID Display Week 2025 showfloor:
>BOE of China is, these days, the largest panel maker in the world. On its booth was a very good looking 31.5’ 8K LCD monitor panel. It supports up to 120Hz refresh rate in 8K or can run at 240Hz in 4K. The firm told us that it expects some mass production later this year.
So hopefully some competition for the Dell UP3218K ($3000 for several years now) when models based on it get announced at CES 2026 I'm guessing. Will also be competition for the 27" 5K QD-OLEDs Samsung is prepping for launch at the same time-frame.
https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1i2u7xu/5k_5120x2880_220ppi_qd_oled_27_inch_panel_coming/

Are any of Corsair's AIO 360mm cooler for the cpu worth it? Or just overpriced?

>>105603495 (OP)
Are these worth buying? $500 seems like a really good deal for 24gb vram. Will want to use it for AI. Looking at marketplace the next cheapest are $7-800.

>>105605859
9800x3d + second pc to handle the streaming

I fucking broke the pci-e lock while trying to pull my gpu out. Am I fucked now? I can't use the other pci-e slot and I have a 5080 so it's a huge card.

>>105604471
>risk bricking your board
>risk having a flaky bios with no way back

>>105606577
You should be fine. You would be surprised how many systems come through my shop with broken locks.

>>105606577
Should be okay as long you seat the card firmly into the slot.

>>105606227
Could care less about these meme resolutions but hopefully this means 4k oled will be cheaper in a few years and 1440p oled will be dirt cheap once they start pushing 5k and 8k for mass adoption.

>>105606603
>>105606614
well it's an msi 5080 suprim and I'm using a fractal north. I don't know if it's going to be secure and I don't know how to tell if it'll be. It's also going to be horizontal. Never happened before and I'm freaking out, I was changing the case fans and when I went to pull the gpu out I must have done something wrong while trying to press the latch with a chopstick since I have half an inch of clearance with the cooler. It just came off in three pieces once I pulled the gpu out.

>>105606626
The locking latch is pressure-activated so if you put your finger/tool on the place where the outer part snapped off you should be able to feel it contracting/snapping back into the "locked" position as you apply pressure fully inserting the card back in. If when you boot the PC you get a video out signal and no black screen you should be golden. Further, if you are orienting the case horizontal/landscape then the force of gravity should also act on the GPU to keep it well seated into the slot. Does your motherboard only have a single x16 slot or is the quad-slot cooler too fat to move it to another PCIe place?

>>105606624
8K isn't a meme resolution as not only does it drastically increase the PPI/PPD visual acuity at these sizes but is also a perfect multiple of 4K, 1440p, 1080p, 720p, 480p, etc. for perfect interger scaling of a variety of content.

>>105606711
The whole plastic lock broke off. I can't put it on the bottom pci-e x16 slot because the cooler is way too big and even if I could the psu shroud wouldn't let it have any clearance. It didn't just snap the plastic tab, it broke the entire latch off so it's just the pci-e x16 slot there now

Are there any aio kits for gpus? If not, what's the cheapest water-cooling setup for a 5090?

>>105606736
>It didn't just snap the plastic tab, it broke the entire latch off so it's just the pci-e x16 slot there no
As long as the plastic slot itself is fine then you're fine. The "gold fingers" on the card contacts themselves aren't scuffed correct?

>>105606497
Yeah that's a decent model

>>105606749
Doesn't look like there's anything wrong with the card itself, no. I'm really afraid of putting it back in and turning the case vertical though. I was already worried about having such a big card before the latch exploded.

>>105606749
>>105606711
on another note, I just noticed that the latch is intact but what broke are a couple of thin plastic pieces that I believe were at the bottom of the pci-e latch mechanism and kept the lock itself from sliding off. It seems to go back in and work, albeit I'm not sure it locks the gpu in properly. But maybe it's better than nothing? I probably pressed too hard when trying to unlatch it and broke the bottom. It's a little wigglier than the other pci-e latch, but it is what it is.

>>105606746
If you have a 5090 you should be able to afford an open loop. I'm waiting for a water block myself. I would suggest getting something half decent.

>>105606577
I've broken mine shit works fine so long as the slot itself isn't fucked

I need a new PSU. I'm pretty sure I just need a 800W one. If I buy some 1300W Titanium thing to "future proof" (in the off chance I buy a xx90 GPU or something in a few years), would it hurt anything besides my wallet?

>>105606772
install a GPU support and stop worrying anon

>>105606981
PSUs are constantly getting outdated these days with the 12vhpwr standard adjustments to prevent melting

Japan makes good capacitors?

>>105604033
y not the ptm stuff?

>>105604090
I always thought they can take as much as your motherboard can deliver and as much as your cooling can take.

>>105607001
It's a grandfathered marketing line from the days of the capacitor plague

>>105604164
I've waited for 10 years so it's time to build a new one. Will also try out that new os Win 10 iot ltsc, been running Win 8.1.

>>105603495 (OP)

>>105607053
o

>>105607001
Generally regarded as the highest quality (specifically Nippon Chemi-Con caps), though technically the μF and rated operating temp (higher *C = better) matter more.

>>105607001
ye

>>105607001
>>105607053
Unless you desolder and test each one or personally inspect the manufacturing line, all you have is reputation. And Japanese caps have the best reputation.

So when are those 9070XT prices coming down?

>>105607099
I always get Panasonic or Nichicon caps for my projects, like not even considering anything else. simple as

>>105607110
prices are at msrp everywhere except the US

>>105607125
O

>>105605998
Wait for the Lancool 4 its coming out in october it will be worth it

>>105607110
When 5070tis start getting cheaper and incentivizing people to ditch overpriced AMD GPUs

>>105607115
put panasonic caps in my monitor to fix it when the caps died they're still going strong monitor still works perfectly

a $400 monitor dying because of 5 dead caps, madness.

>>105607145
$750 is a fair price for the 5070ti

>>105607139
>Lancool 4
It looks cool but I just feel like that front panel's gonna shatter on everyone who buys it

>>105607151
It's a bargain actually. The same amount of silicon going into a 9800x3d would go for $1500

>>105607175
sand is cheap

>>105605998
>no filtration intake
Enjoy cleaning it every 2 weeks
Got the 216 and never again, i rather spend $250 for a case that isn't a desert simulator

Arrow Lake is so shitty you forgot it exists

>>105607206
pure sand and super printers aren't cheap

>>105605998
I just removed my panel and put it horizontally on the floor. actually thinking of going open frame and might diy some mesh around it to filter dust. cases are shit

>>105607215
Two things that have depressed me about the evolution of modern cases are the seeming disregard for intake filtration and the ever declining number of HDD bays despite the nominal dimensions of cases either stating the same or getting bigger.

>>105606227
>8K
Complete meme for monitors, we stop at 5K.

>>105607001
Those NZXT PSUs received very good Cybenetics test results, better than some OEM's (top 10 overall in +1000~1250W bracket).
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/6/

>>105607266
Nvme are affordable grampa

>>105605886
>that sucks at anything except playing games
It actually can do a lot of workloads pretty well. It's not the 7800x3d which actually is gimped in those workloads.

I'm on a quest to design the ultimate nightmare pc to capitalize on every recent gamers nexus scandal. So far I have
>overpriced 8gb card on older platform
>degrading intel cpu
>exploding gigabyte power supply
>nzxt case and cooler
anything else lol?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DHkCcx

>>105607287
Not @ 10TB+ per drive they aren't.

>>105607215
>>105607266
>no filtration intake
Thank the fat fuck Gamers Nexus Steve for his "dust filters fuck up muh airflow" memes.

>>105603554
After the 20% DX12>VKD3D tax...

>>105607295
If only there was a video card that was 8gb and had a 12vhpwr connector

>>105607295
You'll want an early batch 990 pro with launch firmware that rapidly degrades the nand and an MSI oled monitor that forces you to run compensation cycles every few hours

>>105607300
The 217 comes with front dust filter
The problem is top and side openings you need to make a filter yourself
Flux doesn't give you any option
https://youtu.be/eeGwSlLXXw8
I wait for this anyways

>>105607295
And a z690 hero motherboard with the capacitor installed backwards and has a chance to melt randomly

>>105605916
doesn't have multi frame gen FAGGOT

>muh artifacting

like just do 2x and it doesn't look bad and blows away 4080 super and all your shit amdrone cards

>>105607339
why are you banevading again pedonigger

>>105607038
Kryosheet allows for a hassle-free setup, make sure the sheet is covering the die(s) and the CPU cooler needs to be installed with the right amount of (even) mounting pressure.
You can fuck up PTM7950 application pretty badly, most people advise you to buy enough spares.
MX-6 or Duronaut paste is good enough for most people.

>105607339
There is in game frame gen for all cards u retard

>>105604014
All thermal paste are not conductive
Honestly just buy the noctua newb kit for $15
Much better than Meme Grizzly shit too, it's good but not worth the price and you can fuck up applications, the sheets especially are as meme as liquid metal and also conductive

>>105607038
Kryosheet allows for a hassle-free setup, make sure the sheet is covering the hottest areas of the IHS (not the literal CPU die) and the CPU cooler needs to be installed with the right amount of (even) mounting pressure.
You can fuck up PTM7950 application pretty badly, most people advise you to buy enough spares.
MX-6 or Duronaut paste is good enough for most people.

Don't be fooled by some of the better-performing pastes on this chart, pretty much all of the XOC pastes aren't designed with longevity in mind.

>>105607237
>>105607206
Just grab a rock outside and trick it into thinking bro

Just came to say my 14900k is still rock solid no errors or crashes yet.

>>105605101
Nah, go full autist, just imagine one of these bad boys by the sofa.

>>105607435
Did you set a voltage cap? Latest microcode installed?

>>105607435
my 13900ks was also fine for the 15 months I had it. i hope its still doing good in the 2nd owner's rig lmao

>he boughted AMD

>>105607477
Yes
Yes

Should I buy the Wooting 80HE just for the analog output?
I don't care about the rapid trigger or other competitive features.

massive heat wave rolling into Euroland yeah nah I'm gonna go without a side panel for the rest of the summer

The PSU I have says it supports only up to 3090(I have a 3080), if I upgraded to something like a 5070 ti I assume I'd have to buy another PSU? It's 850 watts but I guess it doesn't have the right cables?

>>105607373
How long does 3.5 grams of thermal paste last for? Like how many times could you put thermal paste on a cpu until it runs out.

>>105606497
>GPU resting on some fuckass ESD shower towel
Ya you should buy it anon

New Machine, thots?

>>105607878
Like 5 X cross pattern splurts

>>105607901
Hot take but I've never liked the 9800X3D. Unless you play a lot of Grand Strat/MMORPGs it's a waste of money that needs a 5090 to really show any value over the 7800X3D. Also AMD priced it very poorly considering it's only 10-15% better than the Zen 4 X3D parts which means it should be no more than than ~$440:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html

Also $300+ for ANY motherboard is insane unlss you have a VERY specific feature-set in mind that cannot be satisfied by any of the several dozen boards below that model's price point.

I don't see a point in spending extra for a premium NVME when they are perform basically the same at random Q1T1 read/writes that are the crux of client PC usage. Might as well maximize your $/GB here and redirect the savings back to the GPU or CPU (or get a bigger SSD).

A litter overspending on the PSU for a 1kW+ unit when the Montech Century II line exists:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ds8Pxr/montech-century-ii-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-1200w
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/montech-century-ii-gold-1050w-atx-3-1-power-supply-review

My edited list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sbRf4p

>>105608004
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sbRf4p
thx negro

I play Rust, and apparently for some insane reason, the 9800X3D actually performs quite a bit better than the 7800X3D. That game is super CPU intensive especially in populated areas.

I just went for a PSU that was rated "A" on the SPL list that was also white but, maybe your option is better
It also has a perfect score
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1973454078#gid=1973454078


As far as the motherboard goes, I find it blood boiling that not all motherboards include a cheap l.e.d. or number screen for debugging and troubleshooting. So I went for this one, it's also white but, your parts list is definitely a more economical choice

In what fucking world does it make sense that the left costs as much as the right

Also how much do you think someone should sell the left build for second-hand in order to justify purchasing the right built

>>105608064
why are you getting RAM that is CL46?
shouldn't you go for CL30?
Also when you build the PC, enable EXPO or whatever in the BIOS otherwise your RAM will be cucked

>>105607990
That's pretty good value.

>>105608064
also ur case is mad expensive, this case has the best thermals out there but, there are even better ones from Lian Li & Antec, you should spend under 100 dollars

>>105608064
>windows 11
do you hate yourself your something?

>>105604653
fair play

>>105608087
>>105608097
I wanted to get the prices the same

>>105608128
>I wanted to get the prices the same
That's fucking retarded. You're just intentionally buying overpriced or poorly thought out parts just so the dollar value is equal? No wonder some of this doesn't make sense.

>>105608167
I wasn't planning on that exact build, it was just an example

Anyone know any decent, affordable microphones? Primarily gonna be using it to chat with friends and I think I'd prefer something I can place on my desk since my current mic is a modmic that's annoyed me to hell by falling onto my floor way too often.

Should I get fans for the top of my case?

>>105603541
I saw the absolute state of nvidia drivers when I went to update after not doing so for about half a year and decided to just update to 566.36, which was apparently the last stable one.

>>105608273
at the back, above the exhaust, sure if you have a spare fan or if the temps are high
don't put it near the front though

>>105608337
I don't have a spare, I would have to buy them and am not sure if it's worth it. If you want to say, depends on how bad heat is getting on my system, I am still waiting for my parts to arrive.

>>105608064
You're paying $1600 for a $300 graphics card

Shader compilation stutters on a high end card? It can't be helped...

>>105608064
How is the 3080 more expensive than 5070 TI? Is it just because no one would buy it anymore, so if you want it you must need that for a very specific reason, so they can wrong you out? Really, I don't get it

>>105608395
*wring you out

>>105603495 (OP)
>Used GPU between $100-$250
are people even selling anything that can outdo a new 7600XT for that price? i don't seem to find anything.

>>105608406
6700XT

I Nvidia had an anime mascot, what would it look like?

>>105608452
Froggy

>>105603515
I love Stellar blade.
Has hot character and is fun. What else game needs.

>>105608475
like this?

>>105608502
Less sexualization and more western character design.

>>105608529
I feel the sudden urge of buying NVIDIA products

Why nvidia doesn't have anime mascot yet??? Why they push 3dpd

>>105608545
They should have gotten more cute Asian girls as mascots but with each iteration they are getting more chubby

>>105608536
Kek
No thanks. For me it's kr, jp gaymes.

>>105608450
the 6700XT only has about half the TFLOPS of the 7600XT on paper though. although it does have more VRAM and higher bandwidth.

>>105608502
I will play it soon.

>>105608555
Look at game benchmarks

I hate coil whine, I wish it wasn't a thing.

I have never experienced coil whine as I do not purchase cheap components.

>>105604014
PTM7950 if you can find a genuine one

I hope I will not experience coil whine. It's from the PSU right?

>>105608751
ptm7950 is only good for directdie application

>>105608773
the psu, motherboard and gpu can coil whine independently of each other

I want to upgrade my monitor after 8 years. Saw a offer on the MSI MPG 274URFDE QD monitor for around 260 Euros. Should I bump up the budget to 300 Euros? And is the Adaptive Sync gonna cuck me out of G-Sync options of my Graphic Card?

>>105608782
Damn that sounds awful

>>105608785
>Saw a offer on the MSI MPG 274URFDE QD monitor for around 260 Euros.
Take it, that's a really good deal. You'd have to put out 340~ bucks otherwise for MSI Monitors with 4k atleast.

>>105607165
> even more glass
looks even more shit

I want to get new speakers for my PC but I dont really know what to go for and what the budget should be.
I live in an appartment so I cant go mega loud anyways but I dont want it to sound like shit.

>>105608840
I have no knowledge about speakers so I just got the ones I found at my local store. Seems to be the creative inspire T10, but an older version without this metal grid over them. I have it since like 10 years or so and I'm very satisfied with it. Only thing is, I could never get the Bluetooth to work. But I also don't need it so whatever

>>105608840
get headphones instead. much better sound for way less money. speakers will almost always sound bad. because not only are they generally poor quality, their sound is also affected by your room acoustics and placement. not worth the effort and money to get quality speakers if you are sitting right in front of your monitor anyway.

>>105608776
that's not what I heard, I was going to apply it to my 9900x once it arrives (not delidded)

>>105608898
well you're gonna FAFO just like I did then

>>105608892
Why do you think he won't get both? I use speakers when playing casually or watch something and headphones when I need 3D sound like in shooters. Always having the headphones on is uncomfortable

I want my parts to arrive. NOW!

>>105608940
Why didn't you pay for faster shipping?

>>105608936
>Always having the headphones on is uncomfortable
only if you cheap out

>>105608912
god fucking dammit
what did you end up using?

>>105608940
>he didn't pay 30 bucks for overnight shipping
ngbi (never gonna build it)

>>105608949
>>105608956
Because I already spent more than I wanted to and they wanted like 70 bucks. Also I thought I don't need it that fast but I can't stop thinking about it...

>>105608951
Having something on top of your head is always worse than having nothing on top of your head.

>>105608954
Just a tube of aliexpress GD900 paste that has lasted me several years now. Its unironically better at cooling my 9800x3d than the ptm7950 was even after hours of burning in the PTM. PTM7950 works great on my 3090 though, no complaints there.

>aliexpress
lol

>>105607418
There was this gay faggot Turing guy that started it all and it has been downhill since

>>105607418
I still unironically believe this is black magic and we are using trapped demons or some shit

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zc9xmC
can I cheap out and get a lower PSU or should I have the overhead?

>>105609104
It's transistors made by other transistors. In the future everything is made by robots instead of us. It all started with dumb robots that slowly but progressively got better to now AI robotics that can do backflips on the Amazon Warehouse floor.

>>105609114
that system will do fine on a 450W psu desu

>>105604137
>undervolt and overclock your 4090/5090
>runs at 80% power but at worst matches performance with no tinkering
That wasn't too hard was it.

How difficult is it to switch from an air cooling setup to a water cooling one?

>>105609188
AIOs are more easy to setup than air-coolers.

Custom water loops are way harder.

>>105609188
Either the rad fits in your case or it doesn't. You're still just screwing shit onto your CPU at the end of the day.

>>105604137
it cant be burned if you never check the connector

My PC is heating my room. After couple of hours of intense gaming room temp raises by 2-3 degrees of C.
What do?
I'm already gaming naked with and have a fan blowing at me. By my hands get sweaty.
>inb4 AC
Can't

>>105609114
Why do you still choose the asrock boards. Be better. If you don't mind a non faggy cpu cooler the ID-Cooling Frozn A620 Pro SE is cheaper at 29.99.

Just bought a 5060ti. I can finally play the games that my UHD 600 can't handle :D

>>105609264
>>105609264
>>105609264

>>105609235
Undervolt/Powerlimit your shit.
In gaming your GPU is the hottest thing and you can tell it to draw less power either globally or on a per game basis.

>>105609195
>>105609214
Cool thanks.
I also assume that I should remove the thermal paste that's on right now if my AIO comes with thermal paste already pre-applied?

>>105609288
You should always replace paste regardless after removing any cooler.

>>105608840
Depends on how complicated you want it. The simplest would be a 2.1 desktop setup but you cannot really except high quality here. People tend to like Klipsch ProMedia here but I had the Heritage and they had static noise and some auto shutdown with a noticeable pop whenever it occurred. Edifier has some 2.1 setups as well but I dont know how good they are.
Powered Bookshelf speakers are very straight forward as you only need to make sure you can hook them up to the PC or DAC using either 3.5mm Jack, a Y splitter to the RCA in or directly via USB. A bit more complicated are passive speakers as you'd need an amp here on top of the speakers which might not be ideal if you're space constrained. Most Bookshelf speaker have a 4" driver that might be a bit big for a desktop so make sure they arent too big. I personally prefer 3.5" but the options here are more limited.
If you want a sub on top of bookshelf speakers things can get actually complicated as you need to make sure everything can be connected with each other. Some active speakers or amps for passive speakers have a sub out that you can use, if this is not available you can check if the subwoofer itself has a line-in and line-out that allows audio passthrough where you'd connect your PC to the sub line-in and then the line-out to the speaker in.

Options you have plenty but how they sound ultimately depends on your environment and personal preference. The best would be if you can listen to the speakers beforehand but even then the sound can be different once you use them in your room cause of acoustics. Some brands that come to my mind are Edifier, JBL, Kanto, KEF, Creative and FiiO. For passive Amps I know Fosi produces some.

I personally use Edifier speaker together with their subwoofer which are sufficient for my room. Especially in regards of subwoofer people seem to prefer bigger ones but I find the recommendations you will see online rather overkill.

>>105608998
thanks, given how fucking hard it is to attach the artic freezer 3's heatsink I guess I'm better off using paste, I heard the PTM are very delicate

>>105609272
He can also limit his ingame fps

>>105609299
Get some objective measurements

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php

>>105609336
yes its a bitch to apply because of how sticky it is and how easy it folds over itself because of its thinness

>>105607165
>It looks cool but I just feel like that front panel's gonna shatter on everyone who buys it
Nah it will be fine boss Lian Li ( the man himself) confirms that is extremely strong and can handle being rough with it also remember it's still in its prototype stage so there will be a few changes before October comes

I was using a 55 inch hisense uh8 TV as my display. It was pretty good, blacks are deep, colors are bright, response time is good, goes up to 120hz (but I usually just run it in 60hz mode) but then after just one year it's starting to develop the blue spot issue, which, if you don't know, is when the backlight LED array starts turning blue in certain spots. It's not reversible and repairs usually tend to cost as much as a new unit.
All these years avoiding OLEDs because of burnin and this is like the third display i've had develop these blue fucking spots and bands so what's the point of avoiding one issue if I'll just get caught in another just as frequently?
If I went with a display instead of a TV would I be better off on lifespan?
Also going from 55 to like 20-30 inch display sounds pretty fucking jarring if I'm being honest with you so I just don't really know where to turn for a decent reliable display under a thousand bucks.