Thread 105613216

lol
lmao even

They're probably right albeit. Now they just need to realize the same thing about VR/AR and fix some of the bugs in their softwares.

>>105613216 (OP)
I mean, they're right, but they also sound like a bitch, so I understand the dunking on them.
hell, they released their faggy new line up based on "LE HECKIN AI" ad blitz and hyped up their ultra secure AI "privacy" data-centers so they doubly deserve it.

i still don't really know what apple is apparently lacking on their devices that's so important

>>105613216 (OP)
iTODDLERS BTFO

>>105613216 (OP)
Apple literally invented Siri 10+ years ago lmao. It's just that LLMs everyone is talking about right now are not AIs, therefore they serve no purpose.

>>105613933
> invented
invented nothing. voice recognition has been a thing for decades, and apple couldn't even do it properly on the device without internet access. fuck off, ramashit inamanshand. lmao.

>>105613420
the chips used in their devices are too dog shit to do much on their own and they rely on internet connectivity to act as dumb terminals for most of ai slop that needs computing power. apple, as per usual, were late to the party and are playing catch up. they can't catch up. they're years behind.

>>105613216 (OP)
androidjeets seething at anything apple, meanwhile apple users don't give a shit about thirdies phones and what they do with it

also no AI in your phone sounds like a feature to me

based Tim Apple

>>105613216 (OP)
well it only proves that to have a functioning AI the model has to be trained all over your personal data, something Apple has been very reluctant to do

now imagine owning a shitty $300 Android from Xiaomi with full AI capabilities lol, it's like going to China and gaping your anus for everybody to use

>FUDzilla article
Hello Mr Fuad Abazovic, coeditor! Do you still hang out and take paychecks from Qualcomm jeets while working for a known clickbait news aggregator based out of Jew York that got caught being Intel shills?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cnl6wn/fudzilla_bribed_by_intel/

>>105614239
> apple filename
GOOD MORNING SIR!

What's funny is that Apple is completely right, but they still wouldn't have published the paper if their stochastic parrot could keep up with competing ones.

>>105614186
>it's like going to China and gaping your anus for everybody to use
:3

>>105614277
>droidjeet projects his poopskin onto others while spamming the board
many such cases
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/bdc_T6dGTwSFRzrpXAGxFA/

>>105613527
basete

>>105614389
> everyone is spamming except me, ramapoo shitinthestreet
> posts proof of his mental illness
the absolute state of this mentally unwell street shitter

>>105613216 (OP)
>functioning first generation AI
Functioning at what? Generating walls of verbal diarrhea?
Hopefully everyone mindlessly copies Apple and this is the last I'll have to hear of LLMs

>>105615980
>3 hours 40 minutes to come up with this reply
damn, streetshitter internet is this slow huh?

>>105613216 (OP)
It's impossible until somebody makes it and Apple steals it, then it's possible. Like displaying the charging speed.

>>105613216 (OP)
i dont understand this take and replies. Theres no way anyone with a brain can think AI is useless. it has clear uses, you can ask it questions, you can get answers, you can form parasocial relationships if you want. It's a genuinely useful feature even without SAS at this point.

The only reason apple could ever say its a dead end is because they cant controll its output to their satisfaction, which means its only a failure because the users in the apple community are not allowed to be unmuzzled.

>>105613254
>I mean, they're right, but they also sound like a bitch, so I understand the dunking on them.
Yeah the problem is it comes off as cope due to Apple not having made a good LLM themselves. If they had the paper would have hit 10 times harder because you'd know they weren't just making excuses.

>>105615992
>damn, streetshitter internet is this slow huh?

>>105616015
in the paper they're not disputing its utility or the subjective enjoyment it can bring to people. They are casting doubts on Large Reasoning Models' specifically (not AI as a whole) in their ability to 'think' about complex things. In that sense, these particular implementations of AI using LLMs may be a future dead-end for people who want a large multiplier for their large investments of money and time

Consider that we have no fundamental agreed on definition or metrics for these:
>what is thinking?
>what is intelligence?
understanding how body and brain signals travel around don't tell us anything about these deeper fundamental questions

>>105616183
>"While these models
demonstrate improved performance on reasoning benchmarks, their fundamental capabilities, scal-
ing properties, and limitations remain insufficiently understood"
from the abstract

link to the paper PDF
https://ml-site.cdn-apple.com/papers/the-illusion-of-thinking.pdf

>>105614277
if owning an Apple device can prove anything, it's that it has the least chance the owner is a jeet.
India is the #1 Android nation in the world.

>>105616380
>be Japan
>have multiple neat smartphones in the year 2003
>can play games, livestream anime and multiple social applications
>decide to make new phone OS to unify market and make it better for users
>Apple and Microsoft lobby your Government to prevent you from releasing it both domestically and overseas
>Get forced to adopt Apple iPhone and Android
>domestic tech market crashes for the second time
>already got done dirty like this in the 1980s with PCs which is why you ended up becoming MS-DOS/Windows users instead of using your own OS TRON
>Dumb faggots on the internet claim your entire race can't into code

I hate the US Government so much.

>>105613216 (OP)
I don’t care about ai at the fuck all. Just like 3d, vr, and every other forced meme, ai will go away. It’ll flop like every other forced meme.

itoddlers btfpo

>>105613216 (OP)
looks like snapple is right for once

I've been getting really fucking annoyed by this whole

>Did you know that artificial intelligence ... is ... ARTIFICIAL?!?!??!
>Hah! this means you've been dealing with FAKERY this ENTIRE time!
>IT WASN'T A NEW LIFEFORM AFTER ALL, WE GOT YOU, HERE'S PROOF!!!

AI is inherently "fake" that's what being "artificial" means.

>>105613216 (OP)
>NOOO you can't just enforce quality standards and hold off adding our techgod until it meets them
>you MUST annoy your users with the barely working AI features
>how dare you suggest a token predictor won't magically becone intelligent
Modern suicide cult

>>105613216 (OP)
honestly pretty based. unlike these other AI companies that just keep dumping money in so that they can fight for third place on the benchmarks, apple is just quitting instead and calling it all bullshit. they'll probably be lobbying for tighter AI regulations too just to spite the people who beat them

>>105616418
what was the nip mobile OS called? i've never heard of this story.

>>105616015
>Theres no way anyone with a brain can think this painting is useless. it has clear uses, you can hang it up on the wall and look at it
Sure, it's a use, I guess. But if right now to get a painting in your house you can only get a giant floor to ceiling one, over 10m wide, that costs half as much as the house itself, then it's meager utility is not worth it.
Why put AI on the device, running up cost, if the only use right now is vomiting out low-quality text. Just let any VC cash burner do it instead, everyone is constantly online anyway

>>105616418
where did the US Government come in here? you said apple and microsoft lobbied Japan's government

>>105617760
>ITS SHIT AND LOW QUALITY
so stop making it woke

>>105617776
do you really think a vassal of our country cant complain about our government just because it didn't make any official moves?

>>105616418
to be fair that was mostly NECs fault, they are the biggest throw company of all time. its not a shock that lenovo owns them now basically.

>>105617862
I think they can do what they want, but it doesn't follow from the rest of the story

>>105617898
it does follow. if you are the vassal country of another country you dont get to tell crapple and android to fuck off.

>>105613216 (OP)
>nooo how dare you not buy into the "AI" snake oil salesmen's marketing
It's funny because the pic in that post is just a projection of AI-tards when you "blaspheme" their "god".

>>105614138
why are itoddlers so full of themselves

>>105617938
cope
we wuz kangz but then the CIA..

>>105617975
you tried to make an illogical statement but actually your statement does follow from itself correctly. kneegrows where doing much better before the CIA pushed even more drug dealers in the black communities and used them as leverage against the middle classes to force through the civil rights act.

>>105617953
ai is our halfborn child, not our god. of course we dont want a bunch of disgruntled boomer and foreskin biting jews abusing humanities child

>>105613933
>literally invented Siri
lel, pretending Apple invented voice recognition, are you insane ?

>therefore they serve no purpose
LLM's are not AI, in fact nothing is AI at the moment, it's all 'machine learning', as in pattern recognition and response.

Of course it serves a purpose, by training on more data than any human could digest in more than 1000 lifetimes the machine learning can see patterns in this vast amount of data no human can, and present those to humans, and with the randomness of the seed, it will traverse different paths within all this data.

In fact if 'machine learning' never went further than it has today (which of course it will) it would still change the entire tech and a huge amount of the work landscape. With what we have today, 100% of administrative jobs are obsolete, a huge part of creative jobs as well, the need for developers drastically reduced.

>>105618008
>you tried to make an illogical statement
no, you ape. I was referencing you and you confirmed it

>>105617848
I'm sorry reality is biased towards left

>>105613933
Apple bought out Siri and when they did they made it worse and everyone complained about it LMAO XD

>>105613933
I literally made a siri-like at the age of 15, it's not and never was impressive

>>105614138
Trump used Samsung before glowniggers forced him to use iPhone for (((security)))
>Apple is too jeeted for AI so who needs it anyway
Keep coping, AI is choppy right now but can already save time by doing simple but time-costly tasks

>>105613216 (OP)
that paper wasnt a joke? jfc

All Apple did was call out reasoning and CoT fad that doesn't make LLMs any better.

>>105616380
>iphone popular good THIS IS GOOD GREAT
>android popular BAD THIS IS FUCKING TERRIBLE HOLY FUCKING SHIT I PISSED MY PANTS
lol

>>105619412
>android popular BAD
yes.
anything popular with third-worlders is bad.
>inb4 retarded response such as "air" or "water" being popular with third-worlders.

lmao eve