>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
If you get an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which solves the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/DYQCcJwH

Previous: >>105630201

>>105635648
>Screenshot 2025-06-18 235846
go to bed bong

Learning about SDR, HDR, gamuts and knits.

Can I get feedback about this AI exchange? Do you agree? Do you not?

>>105635659

Why no aftermarket shrouds for these high end cards? The stock fans are loud, cheap, and shitty. These are $1,000+ cards, you definitely want to deshroud them. Even using zip ties is worth it, but a 140mm fan shroud, even 120mm, would be much better. Do people not own these cards? These fans are complete garbage.

if i have a gen 4 m.2 and i'm running it in a gen 3 slot, will the speeds maintain the gen 3 max for longer before dropping during sequential write? i'm mostly clueless about nvme drives.

>>105635675
No because HDR is complicated and is a fucking mess where brightness isn't the be-all of what makes good HDR good. There are so many factors at play (even ignoring people fucking up displaying SDR content) that understanding it is a bit of a headache.

The concept of XCR alone is something that you cannot easily articulate to people. This article is only comparing the two types of oled and look how involved it can be.
>https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs

>>105635694
Nobody makes aftermarket heatsinks anymore mostly because your rog ally loli sweat turbo edition gpu looks cool.

>>105635694
custom loop

>>105635756
>Put child on GPU
>Instantly sells out

>>105635729
Yes.

If you want a visual analogy:
- It'll take longer to overflow a leaky bucket if you halve the rate of water going in.

>>105635803
good way to put it, thanks

>>105635648
And we are still months of driver releases away from the big Redstone update which will give the biggest improvement. 9070 XT will be within 5% of the 5070 ti by the end of the year or match it. And in future PS5 pro and PS6 games it will mog 5070 ti. Thank you AMD I love downloading more FPS!!

And we are still months of driver releases away from the big Redstone update which will give the biggest improvement. 9070 XT will be within 5% of the 5070 ti in pathracing by the end of the year or match it. And in future PS5 pro and PS6 games it will mog 5070 ti. Thank you AMD I love downloading more FPS!!

>>105635837
you realize if you delete and double post it only makes you look like a schizo

>>105635853
I had to correct something in my post which is why the delete function exists. Calm down schizo

>>105635756
take me back

ive had a 14700k since near launch and it hasnt had any problems whatsoever and my bios is up to date. should i be worried ?

>>105635997
yes they all degrade eventually
but Nova Lake sounds promising at least

how do i optimize this for the most savings

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsW9Yd

>>105636063
do people actually think raytracing is worth it?

>>105636074
well if the gpu you want is a 9060XT just get a 9700X

>>105636074
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Motherboard: Downgrade to B650 or B850, unless you know why you chose X870. Never buy from Gigabyte or Asrock. Consider MSI or Asus.
Memory: Perfect but get the 6000 CL30 variant instead
Storage: Perfect
Video Card: Sapphire or Asus ideally but whatever. It's fine if you don't need Nvidia's features™.
Case: Why? Get something with good cooling like the Fractal Torrent, Meshify 3 XL, or even North XL. Or Lian Li Lancool 217 or 216.
Power Supply: Only buy Seasonic. 850W Vertex should be plenty.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KLTCPJ
Talk to me. I'm building this for AI & mining (taking advantage of legitimate free electricity) in addition to other shennannigans... is building a rig with three or four 3090 Ti cards still a good idea?

>>105636221
>Talk to me. I'm building this for AI
Nah I don't think I will help you out

>>105636107
Ray tracing was (and will be) the way graphics are done - we've known this since the 90's. The problem we are in right now is it still wild west territory with hardware only kinda maybe sorta able to do it real time and the software behind it still very immature.

>>105635627 (OP)
anyone have a pc hdmi cord cause a brown out for being too long? I have had repeated trouble getting a signal from a lot of it them from my t1000 and so im upgrading my psu, when plugging it in its not just the display, even peripherals fail like there's not enough power for the keyboard and such

240w z240 (what a shocker). I'm upgrading to something beefier in the hopes that it fixes, I've spent more on cables so far than the pc

I want to buy an HDD or two, in the range of 8-12TB is there anything better than the WD Red Plus 12TB? Regarding Price they all seem be in the 16-20Euro/TB range. So I don't mind paying a bit more for better and quieter.

>>105635694
I own a 4090 and put it in a p620 the first thing i did was deshroud it. the thing is the deshrouding community is already pretty low in market cap so its completely served by etsy 3d printers. if you want something nicer than that with RGB its diy only. my rec is to build something to go on top of your fans as a screw in 3d printed whatever. However I tested making a fan air shroud that would route my case side exhaust upward into the cpu chamber using some paper and basic tape in order to improve air flow but it didnt seem to make any difference in my temps

>>105636311
SN850X if you want something quiet

>>105635788
I'm mad there wont be a rei but my wallet thanks it.

ACCCCCCKMD!

is it normal that my 9800x3d goes straight to 95 C when using 100% CPU? with phantom spirit.
it's 66 C playing a game normally

You do actually have a 5090 by now, right anon? That would be pretty embarrassing if you didn't.

>>105635694
> you definitely want to deshroud them
No, why? My Black Beauty's fans run almost inaudible at 1200 rpm most of the time.

>>105636327
Not worth the hassle unless you have a FE that runs hot as hell.

>>105635788
I like the concept, is there a place you can pay to have your gpu custom painted? I would like something a little more subtle.

>>105636311
I can recommend picrel Toshiba, fast, Helium filled and silently spinning, no buzz saw. Don't buy HDD as small as 8TB, makes no sense nowadays and they spin louder because they are not Helium filled. Get 18/20TB right away. Thank me l8er.

Flimsy cable management tie packed in with this cheapass case popped within 24 hours, let the SATA power cable droop against a case fan and get a wire nicked

Are ALL the replacement cables for modular PSU's you see on Amazon just scamshit primed to fry itself, or is it one of those inescapable Just Pay The Corp Tax things to only buy straight from their shop at their jacked up rate?

>>105635694
My 4090 is quite silent and doesn't even hit 65C at 450W load. Why bother?

>>105636635
mine was about fitting the case and was worth it for that reason. I'm just saying doing an additional shroud doesn't seem to serve a purpose.

>>105636854
case fit only. thats the main reason to de shroud. ricing and size.

>>105636074
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7fpLc

I'm waiting to build a computer because there aren't any games out currently that I want to play badly enough. Also telling myself this generation sucks. But I don't know if I can wait another year or two for the 6000 series. My shit is 11 years old and counting at this point all I can play are gacha games and old shit.

>>105637004
Just take the plunge, mine is eleven as well and I'm building this year. Just buy a 9060xt as a placeholder and sell later on if you just have to have the 6000 series later.

backlight is bleeding or whatever you call it

need a monitor that is good for eye strain and sometimes counterstrike, ideally under $200 CAD

The white led ridden 9070 XT is $700 at Microcenter right now while the tariffs are back down temporarily. It's still not the advertised price but is that worth it or should I wait another 2 years for next gen?

>>105637037
I've never resold anything, is that actually a viable thing? How do you even go about doing it? Who would want a 3 year old low tier graphics card?

>>105637083
Third world gamers surving on even older stuff.

>>105637083
ultra low-end 6 year old gtx1650s are still widely used today so there's a market for this stuff
i usually sell my goods locally on something similar to craigslist

>>105637076
it's the best you are gonna get probably. who knows maybe just before or during black friday they will have "sales" and it will go down to 650 or even msrp but I wouldn't count on it. We might not see 9070 XT available at MSRP until next year.

>>105637037
>>105637140
If we're going by that idea I might as well get a good graphics card and just resell that.

>>105637038
Gigabyte has a lot of eyesafe 2.0-certified monitors, some are affordable.
Acer, Lenovo, and HP also have some eyesafe certified gaming monitors.
MSI and ASUS have some TUV Low Bluelight (hardware) certified monitors.
eyesafe-certified monitors usually have the TUV eye-related certifications.

https://eyesafe.com/products/?_eyesafe_product_types=monitor-gaming

is it still worth upgrading to an am4 cpu?
>t. msi b450m user

>>105637038
>>105637228
You don't need that crap just download f.lux

>>105637258
it is if you're poor and stupid

>>105637258
went 3600>5700x3d so the jump was hueg for me
if you go 5000 something non-x3d to x3d like some anons here did you wont probably feel it was worth it at all
so
>zen/zen+/zen 2 into zen 3 = yes 100%
>zen 3 into zen 3 x3d=not worth it
it is technically an upgrade but nothing compared to the first row i mentioed

>>105637038
Do you need a monitor that causes eye strain or one that prevents you from playing counterstrike? Unclear.

>>105637288
still ban evading pedonigger?

>>105635627 (OP)
Gamers I need a new GPU.
Currently have:
i7 6700K @ 4.5ghz
32GB DDR4 @ 2444mhz
Gigabyte 1060 6GB
Corsair 750w PSU, forget the model but it's one of their nicer modular Gold rated ones
Asus Maximus VIII Hero

My budget is sub-$450, I play Arma on an ultrawide at 60hz refresh and I don't really care about higher refresh rates or 4k resolution.
I was looking at the 5060ti, thoughts?

>>105637334
you need a whole new setup, your CPU is cheeks and will hard limit any recent GPU

>>105637334
5070 is best bang for buck gpu rn so you might want to up budget to get it
5060 ti is worse value

>>105637270
>f.lux
Hardware solution > software crap.
These eyesafe settings aren't permanently enabled either, they're usually active in the Eco mode preset.

Mandatory to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY64-RO_cko

>>105637363
You're retarded and have no idea what you are talking about. f.lux does it's job perfectly and you don't need to spend extra money on a special monitor just to get rid of blue light.

>>105637334
China is making diverse chips?

>>105637376
>f.lux
>f.lux (pronounced "flux") is a cross-platform computer program that adjusts a display's color temperature according to location and time of day
>adjusts a display's color temperature according to location and time of day
You're the one who knows fuck all, enjoy your orange screen.

>>105637334
>5060ti
A trash card.

What brands or qualities of an HDD can I look for to put in my tower that I sit right next to? Mainly looking for them to be high capacity but quieter than my case fans. just for watching movies from so speed isn't that big a deal

So far I've heard
>any server class drives, regardless of their stated DB level is louder than that
>WD Red Plus drives are the most quiet, but they max out at 12TB
>any helium filled drive is quieter than a non-helium filled one
>seagate barracudas are quiet but extremely poor quality
>WD golds might be a good balance in noise level and capacity, slightly worse than barracudas

>>105637376
>you don't need to spend extra money on a special monitor
Even sub-$200 1440p gaming monitors like the Gigabyte GS27QA is eyesafe 2.0 certified.

>>105637334
if you're considering 5060ti 8gb, you might as well save a couple of bucks and get the 5060 instead
but since you have an old quad core cpu, you'd want amd anyway (i.e. a 9060xt) as nvidia's driver is heavily multithreaded and will underperform on old cpus

>>105637375
>1 hour
Uhh can I get a tldr please.

>>105637375
>Definative
dropped

>>105637430
No point, the video is already targeted at people who really love wasting time. No one else needs it.

>>105637349
Oh yeah its old I know but its not bottlenecking anything at this point. I'll upgrade the mobo and CPU later this year most likely.
>>105637350
I'll check the benchmarks but I don't know if I need what the 5070 offers. 2560x1080p at 60hz doesn't need that much juice does it?

>>105637425
>5060ti 8gb
oh absolutely not. I don't follow computer component news anymore but the 5060ti 8GB was so poorly received even I saw it lmfao.

>>105637445
Im waiting from you a recipe to remove a coat from a modern screen.

>>105637462
I will redeem the card, and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>105637473
You dont have cards sorry.

>>105637473
>>105637481
nope

>>105636074
Unless you have a particular reason to keep that case, This is the best I got https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CpjGYd

>>105636607
Ask me again in three months ;)

>>105636074
>spending on the case 100$
Jesus.
I would Ryzen 7500f and better GPU.

>>105636607
>No astral white
I'm gonna wait

>>105637402
>>105636713

>>105637687
>*click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*
>"""quiet"""

>>105637258
> msi b450m
Has only one slot for M.2 storage, only one slot for pcie x16/8 card, I wouldn't spend any more money on this dead end. Not worth it in this case.

Gents what would be a reasonable secondhand (US) price for an Alienware Aurora R16?

>4060ti 8gb
>13700F
>1tb NVME
>16gb RAM

eBay looks like $900~ but if anyone buys & sells regularly I'd appreciate any advice. I have no boxes but may be able to dig up an original receipt.

Backstory: Family friend passed away with no inheritors and people decided I'm the computer guy so it goes to me. I have a better mobo/CPU but I'd like to upgrade to a newer GPU with the money. (I have a gtx1080 & 7800x3d lmao)

>>105637771
Sell the GPU and repurpose the rest to be a media server or smth

>>105637771
$800-850 would be a good price since you don't have the original box
since its alienware, try advertising on platforms that gaymer kids frequent

>>105637794
>super weak 8gb last gen gpu thats at best useful for esports
>oxidized intel cpu
>too small nvme
>too little ram
>poor airflow aw case with teal leds

500$ is max I'd pay

>>105637811
none of those matters to gaymer kids
they see intel i7, nvidia rtx and alienware and its an instant $1000

>>105637811
>>105637820
you both are right

>>105636307
guess no one can help

>mfw just spent $3,500 on a laptop

>>105637927
Ask ChatGPT because your original post was incomprehensible.
Are you asking if your babby PSU can run your computer? Probably but its also probably also blown out due to a power surge.
Get a new PSU that isn't an electrical fire waiting to happen (Diablotek)

This isn't normal right? Max sensor readings after FurMark 2 benchmark. I expected hotter temps after deshrouding due to headroom but GPU and Hot Spot numbers seem very bad.
Bad heatsink contact? Needs repaste and pad change? Something feels wrong. Not to mention this card can probably hit 3.0 clocks and mine is doing 2.8.
But maybe that's what these cards run at these days.

>>105637931
I hope it was a MacBook Pro at least

>>105637931
>>105637959
nah I hope it was this

>>105637959
he said laptop not toy

>>105637711
Yes, they click (only) when working but you can install them with some noise dampening and prevent Windows from unnecessarily doing random shit with them (scans or msdownld.tmp) and they are not loud or annoying like the buzz saw HDDs.

Is this true?

>>105635627 (OP)
Got a new GPU and dual monitor setup for games. Noticed with Expedition 33 on max settings frames drop pretty bad (from 90 down to like 20 at times). Kinda figured this GPU would be able to handle this game np.

Ran a benchmark and got this result. Any idea where I should go from here to see what's wrong with it? I'm not overclocking and I get a lot of people run these tests because they are, but I'm surprised my card is so far below the average that other users are getting. Display is 144hz.

What's the next upgrade, GPU or CPU?
I have a 5900x and a 4070 super.

>>105638239
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/clair-obscur-expedition-33-performance-benchmark/5.html
Don't feel bad, it's UE5-based slop. Even a 5080 wouldn't net you a steady 60 FPS sadly. Just bump settings down.

>>105638274
Neither if you aren't hurting right now (I'd wait on Zen 6/Nova Lake and next-gen GPUs). If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, invest in an OLED monitor if you don't already have one instead.

>>105638239
Check what it says about XMP
I'm not sure how much of a bottleneck there is but that CPU ain't amazing and E33 is the odd game that will run like shit on top of the line GPUs if your CPU isn't great. Still those are harsh drops, not normal. My GPU is considerably worse and I'm getting 60 to 70 fps with DLSS quality in most areas.

>>105638292
Yep already have an OLED monitor
I thought of switching to an AMD GPU to get rid of a few issues I have on linux but that can wait

>>105638278
>https://www.techpowerup.com/review/clair-obscur-expedition-33-performance-benchmark/5.html
>Don't feel bad, it's UE5-based slop. Even a 5080 wouldn't net you a steady 60 FPS sadly. Just bump settings down.
I did there was an optimization thing on youtube that helped a lot and I could hardly notice any difference.
Still confused why the tests for GPU are such bad percentile and completely to the left of the bell curve. Does literally everyone overclock higher end cards? I've never had one before.

>>105638302
>Check what it says about XMP
ok will do, never did bios before. will let you guys know if I brick my pc

Why exactly is there a standard CPU temperature reading for fan control but not PCIe (GPU)? Is it because the common expectation is for the CPU to get heated up by GPU operation and so fans can react semi-rationally?

>>105637956
its not great but <20C difference between edge and hotspot temps is normal. repaste might improve that
also I've only seen golden samples boosting to 2.9ghz+ ootb while most gpus hit between 2.7-2.8ghz

>>105638404
Do you mean in the context of BIOS fan control? You need drivers to read data from external devices and the BIOS (obviously) doesn't have them.

>>105638292
>just wait bro

>>105637447
A 5060 Ti will comfortably make that resolution and framerate happen with upscaling on AAAs. You will have to consider whether the 9060 XT's inferior upscaler adoption is tolerable for you or not.

Thanks, I guess...

>>105638470
>inferior upscaler adoption
90% of games with upscaling you can mod in fsr4 via optiscaler and the image quality is better than broken blurry TAA. It's easy to do and is simple as dragging some files from an archive to the game directory. If you aren't a larping console cuck and have basic computer competency this is not much of a concern.

>>105638274
I wouldn't upgrade anything. Going to 50 from 40 series is genuinely pointless. That's an AM4 CPU, right? Guess you could jump to AM5, but that requires a new board and CPU. So if it's strictly ONLY a CPU upgrade then don't do anything. Otherwise, a little $600 7900X/B850 upgrade never hurt anyone.

>>105638545
>and have basic computer competency this is not much of a concern.
I've been a sysadmin for 6 years, chat I'm cooked

I still prefer PCs but man I wish the efficiency was like Apple's. My Mac is using less than 1W, TOTAL. Under 5W load. My PC's GPU idles at like 10 times that.

>>105638585
windows doesnt really make money from selling copies to end users so they have to make ends meet gathering telemetry

>>105638519
Kek

>>105635675
Do you have colorimeter and spectrophotometer? If no, don't even bother, its a rabbit hole for colorists and content production, its just not important for typical consumer, you most likely wont be having a guy with tech enough to calibrate oled anyway

I got a 1440p monitor but now I'm unsure if I should return it and get a 4k one

>>105638667
I'm not kidding when I say that I cannot understand why people are not using 4k as their daily driver. there is no comparison to it. however, I don't play modern games so if you use the sentiment of "acktually I can't run x modern slop game past 60fps on 4k!!! not worth it!!!" then yeah ok have fun with half the pixel density for everything else

>>105638689
>I don't play modern games so

>>105638689
I didn't get a 4k one because I thought there were no 27 inch ones. But now I see there are... If I can't run 4k with good fps I could just upscale 1080p but on a 1440p screen it isn't just an integer scaling. Not sure

Sup, I'm on a quest of new pc, need some help
> Occupation: 3D, rendering, content production, so its a blue-green team mandatory, red shills please
>Raw performance accent for gpu
First of all, ia there a big difference for 12700k and 12900k? Pure performance to money question
Buying single 3080ti right now, looking to update for double-4080super in the future or even new gen
What mobo, cooler and case should I get for i9-12900k
2x4080super
64/128ram
1systemSSD
2 to 4 fat hdds?
Thanks a lot

>>105638689
i dont get the difference between 1440p and 4k, they look both extremely good, only 1080p and lower looks like shit and need to upgrade from there

New pc comes Monday. I am excited.

>>105638780
9950x3d cpu
mobo with lots of fast nvme lanes
water cooler
5090
128gb ddr5
3x 4tb pcie 5 nvme ssd
fractal north xl case
Whatever HDD's you need can be external and connected via usb

>>105638689
I'll probably go to 32" 4k after my 1440p ultrawide craps out on me

>>105638780
Why i7i9 12th gen? Core ultra 7 265Ks are much faster than those and don't cost much more
For dual GPU, you'll want a board that bifurcates x16 to dual x8/x8 slots

>>105638978
Last okay gen with no big issues, gonna check on that core, thanks

>>105638992
Get them for only $260 while you still can. Intel is currently firesaling those as they're about to refresh them with slightly faster (overclocked) models

Reminder that nvidiots are the stupidest consumers in tech rivalling iToddlers in retardation. They are getting scammed and they don't know it or will brag about it even. So many clowns posting their 5090 in this thread totally clueless that they got ripped off. A study should be done because I guarantee they would find correlation with buying a 50 series gpu and lower iq.

>the amdlet cries out in pain as he strikes you

>>105639050
>Njudea shill projecting
Simple facts, the spec sheets and just the truth in general is anti ngreedia and their brain dead fanboys that market their products for 0 payment.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/wLgWNqTbXo

Oh no no no no no

>>105638745
t. manchild

>>105639018
I dont understand the content in the image
is the guy saying the new 6000 rtx is 40% or the 5090 is 40% but drivered to 25%? I have a 4090. personally its hard to feel like I got scammed when my card is somehow worth more than I got it. I guess i could buy like 3-4 ada 4000s and have better output than my current build for vram but it would still cost me even more than I paid for this one. A lot of it boils down to cost vs available wattage on my circuit. but in theory if I bought like 3-4 4000s I'd have had to pay basically 6 grand instead of 1.5 to reach my psu cap. until they drop down to 800 each its hard to imagine buying them, but i imagine once they do my 4090 will be worth much less and my p620 workstation even more less.

>>105639135
The full die 5090 is made of is 40% stronger than 4090
since 5090 is a binned die with cores turned off its only 25% stronger than 4090

Is there any reason for me to switch from AM4 to AM5 if I'm on the 5800X3D? The upgrades don't seem that substantial to me.

>>105639162
no? am4 x3d are that good for their (old) price

>>105638318
>>105638343
I'm at a loss... Turned on the XMP thing and it made my memory better which is cool. And I turned on auto OC on the AMD Adrenaline Software, set it to performance, and whatever gamer thing HYPR-RX is. Says my gpu is still way worse than everyone else's of the same kind even though it's brand spankin new.

>>105639018
I love my 5090.

>>105639061
All of your silly little projections dont matter. What matters is supply and demand, taxes, cuck regulations and actual technical realities of which this chart says nothing about.

I agree with you tho nvidia cards are barely worth it. The only reason to buy nvidia is if you really want cuda.

>>105639135
It's ragebait
It's saying the full fat gb202-400 is 1.4x faster than the 4090 while the gb202-300 of the 5090 is only 1.25x and Nvidia is le greedy for selling it at 10k eur, despite the fact that the 4090 uses ad102-300 with the same proportion of disabled cores and cache as the 5090's chip, and the full ad102-400 die was only ever used in $7000 ($9k street price most of its life) professional cards

>>105639151
and that is supposedly going to wind up in the 6xxx series pro cards or something? what will they sell them for?

>>105639219
the pro 6000 gpus with 96gb vram cost about 10k €

>>105639176
looking at the 2nd line, why does it say sapphire? is that the brand or a second gpu? is it plugged into a full width pcie slot?

>>105639223
so basically if I compare to the 4000 I would be paying double the premium for the same vram, lmao. I guess it's not valueless since its all on one card, but it's nuts to pay that much unless you are indeed a pro.

I can either get a new build with 9070xt but my monitor choice is limited to some higher tier VA or I can build a system with 5070 and can bump my monitor to some cheaper QD OLED.

Which choice is better in terms od quality of life for casual 2k gaming?

>>105639176
You probably scored a card with slower (timings) Samsung vram which costs 2% performance

>>105639241
imho gaming depends entirely on what you play and what frame rates you want, you have to build your display choice around that and whats important to you there. I have a massive 4k 120 hz outdated oled I paid a little too much for (500) but in terms of 3d its hard to expect more frames than that. otoh if you are into fps you might get a 2k va and 360 hz

How important is gsync compatible when you have an nvidia gpu? Right now I'm looking at these two monitors
https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg27ucs/
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-274URF-QD
I think the MSI looks a bit better but the ASUS one is gsync compatible

>>105636595
On a phantom spirit? Yeah probably. Zen5 boosts as aggressively as it can until it hits one of its pre-defined limited which in 99.9% of cases is tjmax (which is 95c). What you should look at is what the clocks are doing - as long as they are holding above 4.7ghz you are fine.

>>105639291
all monitors have vrr, most tvs do these days as well

>>105639291
Adaptive sync also is nvidia compatible. There is barely any difference.

>>105639296
>>105639312
Thanks, I look for a bit more but I'll probably get the MSI one then

>>105639252
I think any monitor with refresh rate above 240 is unneccesary flexing outside of e-sports, since modern games are poorly optimised and you rarely get much more than 100 FPS with ultra settings.

>>105639162
Upgrade when the 10800x3d or whatever the fuck they call it comes out.

>>105639331
i play a lot of Japanese rpg slop so I benefit from higher however I also would prefer more resolution so I accept the hz hit.

>>105639231
sapphire is just the brand and yeah, it's plugged into the top one. I'll try reseating it, but I kinda figured I'd have way worse problems if it wasn't already connected right.
>>105639242
dang, I guess I just have the worst 9700X known to man. at least it still beats the 1050ti I was using

>>105639343
its less about it being connected right and more about if thats the proper slot for gpu in your MB. if its not being limited from the lanes iunno. maybe that anon is right and you just have no lottery luck

Does anybody know when rdna5 releases? Rdna4 has not proper flagship

>>105639393
next 6 months

>>105639393
next 12 months

>>105639343
run gpu-z and it will tell you whether you have hynix or samsung vram on your gpu

>>105639402
>>105639409
I will wait 2 years then

>>105639435
what if rdna5 is just a stop gap for udna1

Don't know why people keep bringing up "rdna 5" which doesn't exist and never will. This is the last rdna gen and 2 years from now we are getting udna at the same time as the PS6 and whatever they name the next cuckbox which will both use the new architecture for the gpu part or the apu in them.

>>105636629
And you could get them down to 900rpm without ever having to spin up under load if you replaced them with 120s

>>105639453

>>105639445
why would it be udna it'd clearly be sdna since s comes after r

>>105639453
Ok udna then, whateva

>>105639453
consoles havent been on par with the latest gpu tech for the last 2 generations of consoles

>>105639543
Xbox and PS5 released November 10th, and 12th respectively. They used rdna 2 which came out on desktop literally the nexr week. What are you on about?

What's better: RTX 5060Ti 16GB or RTX 5070 12GB?

Usecases: Gaming, Video Editing, maybe some 3d scenes rendering.

>>105639569
it isnt true rdna2. its a weird chimera of some rdna2 ip blocks and rdna1 blocks

>>105639575
5070 is faster but will age quicker

>>105639575
40% relative performance delta between the two, best look at benchmarks of your specific games to see whether you should care about the 4 extra gigs of vram.

>>105639575
It is a similar difference as between 3060 12gb and 3070 8gb. I would pick the 5070. Price/performance for the 5070 is very good

>>105639575
3d scenes might require a lot of vram and 5070 ti would be best

>>105638689
I'll a 4K when it's 27" max, and reliable for all usage for 10 years, under 700$.

>>105639575
Do you prefer getting your balls kicked or your dick stomped?

>>105638129
The laptop I got from work also has 8GB memory and W11 installed. Together with all the companies security garbage I'm constantly at 100% memory usage.

>>105639698
We've had 27" 4k LCD panels for under 700 shekels for many years anon.

>>105638129
There's a huge difference between a SATA SSD and gen 4 NVME for transfers and OS use.

12-16gb of ram is the new minimum not 8gb.

Everything wants a 8 core CPU now because of consoles and phones.

Everything is WebGPU/ANGLE hw accelerated so you need a GPU with working MPOs and non shitty Windows/Linux drivers (AMD Graphics).

27" 1440p500hz vs 27" 4k 240hz vs 32" 4k 240hz vs 4k 42" 144hz vs 4k 55" 165hz
the struggle is real

>>105639939
Are you at a desk? If your viewing distance is around 75cm or more 27"1440p is plenty. If you're closer 27" 4k but then you may suffer from not seeing the whole display. No point in 32" or more unless you sit far away for the same reason.

>>105639799
Meant OLED woops. Else I'd unironically game on a 4K TN panel

>>105639176
>userbenchmark
le meow

>>105639939
how so
those are all for different use cases and pc specs
tvs are for viewing anime, not playing games

>>105639939
luv me 32" 4k 240hz oled

>>105639291
After all I got the ASUS one as I have found more people complain about IPS glow and back bleeding on MSI. LETS GOOOOOOO

is there any special configuration to extract the most out of nvidia when you are GPU bound because of a shitty 3060 but have an insanely good CPU?

>>105640488
go into the .ini files of games and turn graphics settings below the minimum and also use DLSS performance mode

>>105639960
I'm over a foot from my desk so I have a 48 incher

>>105640488
Technically enabling low latency mode on NVCP will help in GPU bound scenarios, it will force the CPU to send 1 frame at the time to the GPU stressing the CPU out and making the GPU life easier

>>105639176
Make sure the card is slotted in the PCIe x16 slot that is closest to the CPU socket.
Download GPU-Z and click the "?" button next to the [Bus Interface] section, it will launch a small render test to measure the fastest PCIe bus interface.
You want that value to show [PCIe x16 4.0 @ x16 or 3.0 x16] depending on your motherboard.
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-gpu-z/

UserShitstain is not a credible website/benchmark.
Try one of the free 3DMark benches, I believe it's TimeSpy.

>>105635627 (OP)
why is tranime OP the worst OP ?

>>105639960
>1440p is plenty
Keep in mind the less-than-good OLED subpixel structure in todays day and age, forgot how bad it is might have to check it out again

>No point in 32" or more
I was at like 60cm distance with a 32 and it was kinda big and evne less than that due the size taking up half the desk so maybe 40cm
need a new desk later

>Are you at a desk?
that is the plan

>>105640160
>those are all for different use cases
they are all for gaymen

>and pc specs
every single one is 5090

>>105640186
it's good but the grass is always greener
maybe ppi is better? maybe more hz is better? maybe larger is better?

>>105640640
Did you buy that C4 or S90D? What the fuck are you doing if you haven't?

>>105640568
the best way to sell useless shit is to bundle it with something attractive

>>105640640
>it's good but the grass is always greener
I went from a 4k 27" lcd to a 32" 4k oled. The drop in PPI can be noticed but it is minor and the higher physical size, refresh rate (120 to 240 in this case) and all the oled goodness vastly outweighed the little bit more aliasing I see. I would say for 32" sized monitors something between 5k and what you might class as 6k would be where I imagine aliasing would no longer be visible.

>>105640568

>>105639939
Basically out of pixel density concerns with OLED to this point being non-RGB subpixel-based, I'd discount out of hand the 32" 4K and larger models. The 27"4K model will give you the clearest image without any fringing on edges or text, while the new 27" 1440p 500Hz model will have some fringing but give you the most cleanest motion handling and brightest full-screen image (300 vs 250 nits) which could be a win if you next to direct sunlight that you can't control. If it were me I'd get the 27" 4K model and some lamp shades & window curtains/blinds. Or wait for LG's true RGB OLED panels to go into production at the end of the year as well as Samsung's 27" 5K with higher brightness for early next year.

is it okay to have an intake fan blowing air directly into a cpu cooler? i know ordinarily that spot would be an exhaust, but my case is lying on its side for GPU stability.

obviously it won't really be terrible, but is it efficient or would the first fan be displacing too much air?

this article leads me to believe it might
https://www.overclockers.com/fan-stacking-myth-vs-reality/

>>105640946
I'd mount the heatsink fan in a pull position (on the right, put pulling air from the radiator to the left) to avoid having the case fan blow directly into it. I just don't see how having your case laying on its side prevents you from cooling your PC the normal front-to-back way.

https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Desktop-Computer-1000Mbps-Display/dp/B0D6RG3YQW/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1IKBCTCKQAV47&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.l2hPrCtGtKn7DdDccYeJW1Lp8UJgZaT9mkYVOgRzO0G3kapqilF98uhxnYqgYLnC9npXlRmRnWIRGSsnMeWB6A-h6T970Hhcl5wkUaHJ_-c2EF8z4D-EgH78m0Z1UXOkt67zDXUfKlBlC-GQCq_kJITumfwx7Da2NsXi0tPCiowVyvxKOE3LOX4HwJ1ww74mEmAlz9mJAJxtTRJkTM44WWMRdB568_YWC330tzTaNrp0XhSR3DM8BzrCj5RbXla3eXJaiqwDafS4v7E-quHGEDW0WpxxP-9svTap3DAS_Jc.Bt2LlclKD_r4a62DkK698dz-m7REoeyYfpZhDTjqdfk&dib_tag=se&keywords=Beelink%2BSER5%2BMini%2BPc%2CAMD%2BRyzen%2B7%2B5825U%2BPRO(8C%2F16T%2Cup%2Bto%2B4.5GHz)%2CMini%2BComputer%2Bwith%2B16GB%2BDDR4%2BRAM%2F500GB%2BM.2%2B2280%2BSSD%2CMicro%2BPc%2BSupport%2B4K%2BFPS%2CWiFi6%2FBT5.2%2FUSB3.2%2FHome%2FOffice%2FGame&qid=1750342381&s=electronics&sprefix=beelink%2Bser5%2Bmini%2Bpc%2Camd%2Bryzen%2B7%2B5825u%2Bpro%2B8c%2F16t%2Cup%2Bto%2B4.5ghz%2B%2Cmini%2Bcomputer%2Bwith%2B16gb%2Bddr4%2Bram%2F500gb%2Bm.2%2B2280%2Bssd%2Cmicro%2Bpc%2Bsupport%2B4k%2Bfps%2Cwifi6%2Fbt5.2%2Fusb3.2%2Fhome%2Foffice%2Fgame%2Celectronics%2C80&sr=1-4&th=1

Can this cost be driven down much for building your own mini retro gaming console? Must be able to handle what is supported from the PS3 decently

>>105641031
>I just don't see how having your case laying on its side prevents you from cooling your PC the normal front-to-back way.
i was under the impression the primary reason you put the top rear fan as exhaust was due to the rising of heat

that said, yours is definitely the right way to go, i mainly set it up that way because when i installed the heatsink it seemed like the fan was blocked by the RAM, but I've looked at it again and it seems like there should be room, think i was just trying to place the fan too low maybe

>>105641063
Rear fan is at the top because it's right behind where the socket is. You don't really need to care about hot air rising, the effect is negligible compared to fans pushing air around. It only matters for passive cooling or if you do primarily vertical airflow in some unorthodox cases.
If you do back-to-front cooling, it's your GPU that's gonna be starved of fresh air.

What is this trend with mounting AIOs at the front of cases?

>>105641091
ok, thanks for the help i'll switch it around

>>105641092
Moar space for bigger radiators. Many cases only have enough space for a dual-fan radiator at the top and Big Cooler has led people to think that they NEED a 360mm AIO for their i5/R5 build.

8gb IS enough with an nvidia gpu :)

>>105641133
Death to 360mm, embrace 280mm.

>>105641258
Sure is.

>>105641258

>>105641267
nvidia keeps winning

>>105641267
Rtx30/40/50 uses the same vram for dlss4??

I bought a lot of 20-30 cpus and only some of them came in proper cpu cases (the transparent ones). what do? Searching cpu cases in aliexpress brings up nothing relevant.

>>105641314
yeah

>>105641321
Nevermind, I found them. Clamshells they're called.

>>105641267
none of the jewtoobers will test this because it will prove them wrong

>>105641092
It's rather stupid because it not only slows down airflow like fuck but also heats the intaken air up. My all-core-overclocked 9950X3D never reaches 80°C, never throttles, with a 420 ALF3 in top mount. Why would I want to cook all other components just to lower these temps even further? It makes no sense. A front rad only makes sense if you cool ALL components, VREGS, HDD etc. included, in one custom loop with rads in front and preferably also in top to maximize to total heat dissipation.

>>105641044
Try again with tinyurl.

>>105640946
> my case is lying on its side for GPU stability.

>>105639939
32"4k is the golden ratio

>build pc
>everything runs fine
>won't displaying on monitor
>tried all the common trubbleshooting techniques
>no dice
wut the fak

>>105639575
A RTX 5070 Ti with 16GB is better for your use cases.

>>105641321
What do you need 30 CPUs for?!

>>105641044
So what do we learn from amazon today? Yes, remove /ref and everything after when sharing links.

>>105641338
none of them will benchmark with this dlc either
16gb cards fear this

>>105639461
Not worth the hassle of deshrouding. I might consider doing something like this if the original fans ever fail but they work perfectly fine so far.

if I upgrade my 5700xt to a 9060 or 9070/xt do I need to upgrade my mobo? CPU is 5600x

>>105641267
What's that supposed to be? Some CNN needs 60MB at 1920x1080 input size? Then what does 85MB on a RTX mean

>>105641502
You don't need to but those GPUs can benefit from PCIe 4.0 if you're not already on B550/X570.

>>105641509
new dlss version reduced vram usage across the board

>>105640658
could have had a c4 for sub 700e now it's more expensive again, I learned lg now has horizontal lines due to their new dithering algo on all new tvs, seem kinda bad, and the lower brightness... outside of hdr full screen that is. idk. I should have tried it out... maybe
s90d only comes in 65" in qd here... I can't desk that
might have to not take the tv pill after all..

>>105640721
WOLED or QD?
but the point is 4k 27" qd exist now too
>something between 5k and what you might class as 6k
considering 220ppi 27" oled has been revealed that means they can make 6k 32" with 220ppi now too

>>105640851
>LG's true RGB OLED
this won't be a traditional subpixel matrix afaik but might have a polarizer?
so it will still lose to qd kind of

>Samsung's 27" 5K
I have a feeling they will not be 240hz though, that demands dp2.1+dsc
will probably be gimped 165hz or something

>>105641449
what is golden about it, too small to use unscaled unless you have binoculars or if you really wanna strain
I mean it's bigger yes but to be comfortable you are still scaling

So ever since I changed my GPU to a 9070xt my browser sometimes starts stuttering like it's running at 10 FPS if there's youtube running in the background and it goes away the second I click on the desktop on another monitor or just alt tab away. I thought this is a browser specific issue, but both chrome and brave have those stutters. Turning off hardware acceleration makes no difference.

You guys think there's some AMD driver bullshit going on in relation to video playback? Because I can't think of anything else.

>>105641656
welcome to AMD
enjoy your stay (it wont be long)

>>105641468
Cheap as part of a lot, I'm building a lot of PCs any way. $85 got me all those cpus (three 7 gen, one 9 gen), 3 cpu coolers, psu, lots of useful knicknacks and adapters and cables

>>105641661
I had literally 0 issues with my old 6700xt

>>105641656
is the framerates of all your monitors matching?

>>105641617
>WOLED or QD?
QD as they are perceived to be brighter than woled and you don't get volumetric collapse as raw luminance increases because lmao white subpixel.

>yesterday DHL said they'd come tomorrow
>last update is still "will be prepared for transit to your region"
They are gonna fuck me over, won't they?

>>105641693
Yes. The resolution isn't though.
The problem doesn't really happen anywhere else other than the browser with youtube in the background.

https://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/Streamline/releases/tag/v2.8.0

>>105641768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy4wUkf5fb8
>500 mb vram reduction just by swapping dlls
incredible

>>105641459
DSC?
Bad cable?
Windows display priority?
Faulty GPU driver?
Fake GPU?

>>105641502
I have a 5600X and DDR4 RAM, and a 9070. Runs fine at 1080p raster, but I'm not hitting some of the benchmark results in some games.

I remember being near CPU throttle on Helldivers 2, but again, I play raster.

probably can try turning off freesync on that monitor, enable/disable hardware acceleration on the browser setting
is all your monitors connected to the gpu or is any of them using the cpu integrated graphics?

>>105635694
how can you overcharge hundreds of dollars for a minimal change in thermals if GPU's become DIY too?

>>105641656
Either check Adrenalin Software if any media option is checked, or maybe some Windows fuckery setting.

Did you clean previous driver correctly when changing GPU?

Is 5090 still unsafe?

>>105641847
Yep, my whole family died to a 5090 explosion yesterday.

>>105641860
You included?

>spent hours troubleshooting computer not POSTing
>was about to conclude that my 5800X3D had died (it's been running pretty hot lately)
>turns out I just had to reseat the EPS connector but on the PSU side

>>105641835
Hardware acceleration changes nothing and both monitors don't even support freesync.
>>105641846
>Either check Adrenalin Software if any media option is checked
What does "any media option" mean? I DDUd in safe mode with no internet before swapping GPUs so there should be no problems here.
It really does just look like some driver issue, or maybe windows fuckery, 24H2 was a garbage update after all.

Question, why doesn't AMD or Valve just port RADV to Windows instead of using AMDVLK?

>>105641656
Known issues with hardware acceleration since rdna2, so 4 fucking years old +still no fix till now.

Sorry i don't own 9070 but the same issues on my rx6800 and 6600 way way back till now.

>>105641937
When going from a 1080 to a 9070 I know I had a weird first install, so I did 2 (including cleaning) because Windows would cockblock a driver automatic download. After that I had no problems.

By media I mean anything that would alter coloring of the screen, video playback, codecs stuff. On adrenalin it's mostly on the right tabs, not hidden but you can see it's apart from gaming.

>>105641656
>>105641976
>>105641846
>>105641937
If you guys could read, the latest AMD driver has a "known issue" list. YouTube is bugged on Chromium. fix is use Firefox or full screen your videos

>>105641993
>Stutter and lower than expected performance may be observed while playing 4K resolution YouTube videos in Chromium. Users experiencing this issue are recommended to play videos in full screen as a temporary workaround.
I'm not really playing videos in 4k though. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if they fix it eventually. I just switched from Chrome to Brave recently and I don't feel like jumping between browsers that much.

>>105642050
It's basically a chromium bug. Chrome is always updating. I don't know what version of Chrome broke YouTube but you can always revert back Chrome versions like you can use older versions of Firefox or Windows by choice.

I had to switch to an AIO this week
Before this, I had the radiator mounted at the front of the case, with the tubes coming from the top.

I was told it’s best to switch this to having the tubes come from the bottom since I have to have the radiator at the front of the case

Only thing is, I kind of had to “push” the radiator to slide in with the tubes at the bottom.
It’s almost forced. Can I just leave the tubes at the top since it works best for my case?

Does including (not mainly using) an old SSD and HDD reduce performance?

>>105642128
That tubing looks fine, the second photo makes it clearer (water flow not being disrupted by tight bend).
I'd keep it as-is.

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>105642258
Hitler wouldn't say this

>>105642258
The drivers are getting better, hardware can't be fixed.

>>105642272
FSR4 on RDNA3 is faster than native 4k while offering better quality. You can do it right now on GTA V.

>>105642325
Slower than DLSS4 Quality's performance compared to RTX 40 cards.
And it looks worse.
This was about NVIDIA vs. AMD no?

>>105642333
The whole point of using DLSS4 and FSR4 is for the image quality bump. Performance is already bad with or without upscalers.

>>105642343
vs Silent Hill 2 at 1080p

>>105642343
FSR4 on RDNA3 looks worse and performs worse compared to RTX 40 cards running DLSS4 Transformer. End of.
Enjoy your busted hardware.

I installed the latest BIOS version this morning. Worried my 13700k might blow up.

>>105642459
>unsubscribe

why don't people just use integer scaling for all their 4k needs?

Anyone recommend hardware for calibrating a monitor?

>tfw you felt like you fell for the 5090 meme then ww3 starts and at least you bought the best gpu that released just before the world went into a decade long pc hardware drought
keikaku...

>>105642617
you want a spectrophotometer
aka calibrite color checker display plus or any of the variants currently in stock on amazon
yes they're expensive than the spyder garbage, but you can use profiles created by other people for your monitor and it works better with displycal

>>105642642
Awesome thanks it seems like the plus is what I need. I know they're pricey but I'll certainly use it

>>105642626
You make me want to get one now as well kek

>>105642626
when the war starts they're going to go after the semi conductors first

now its the best (and last) time humanity will be able to build new pcs

>>105642584
When playing in 1080p you mean? Isn't that what they do?

>>105642626
what about the nvidia driver issues that are still not resolved

>>105642584
I prefer bilinear sharp overall. I guess it depends on what you're scaling

They see me buildin'
They hatin'

>>105642744
Considering 4k is just two times 2k, would integer scaling not look the same as native when scaling it on 4k?

>>105642698
check your local internet maybe there's an offline or cheap enough online rental service

what pc hardware do i need to play cyberpunk maxed out psycho overdrive

>>105642756
For the most part yeah that's an ideal situation and will look great

>>105642738
Keep making a mountain out of a molehill.
>muh black screen
The fact that the latest patch resolved the issue for many people means the rest of them are the ones who need to check their hardware configuration, starting with their display cables.

I felt like such a retard buying a 4090 even at msrp, but now I'm still retarded and own a 4090.
Checkmate

>>105642970
?
i bought my 4090 for $1800 from bestbuy in 2023
it's now worth 2000
with taxes and shipping i'd break even

>>105642970
Why not sell and get a 5090 if you feel that way?

>driver notes say 5090 fee acoustics have been changed
Why would they write such a retarded vague thing about what they actually did? Idle fan speed was reduced to 1100rpm and they’ve completely changed the criteria for fans to start/stop. My fans even stop with 3 4 monitors connected and maxed memory clock. That’s fucking huge.

>>105642738
Works on my machine. Actually never stopped working to begin with.

how shoud I clean dust and shit from PSU/GPU/Cooler fans?
Tried to blow with hair dryer but aint working, shoud I dissamble and shit?

>>105643323
qtips

>>105643323
Compressed air

>>105643323
Take the PC outside and use a portable air duster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ncYXk1cP4

>>105642900
>>105643279
they still blackscreen nonstop and have mpo issues

>>105643405
>they still blackscreen nonstop
No they dont.

>have mpo issues
Microsoft Windows issue, not limited to NVIDIA Geforce.

>>105643323
I once swiped them with Swiffer but it seems the fans got bend a little because when I turned the PC on they sounded like they scratched something, so I wouldn't advise to do so. Took me some time to bend them again in such a way they were silent

>>105643351
Is this really safe? Looks like spraying water or some shit into your system so I never did it.

>>105643510
You pull the trigger on your fan for 2 seconds. The fan spins at light speed and a cloud of dust appears. Done. Next one

>>105643458
that retards issue is using outdated version of windows on amd. after updating the problem is solved.

with updated windows on nvidia the problem still occurs so its nvidia driver issue. nvidia still never said "FIXED" for mpo either they classify it as broken
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157/~/after-updating-to-nvidia-game-ready-driver-461.09-or-newer%2C-some-desktop-apps

you cant name a single driver version with the words "fixed mpo"

>>105643519
Should the PC be on? And do you also spray that on your CPU / GPU? Not baiting, I really don't know

>>105643458
Nvidia driver issue still not fixed.

>>105643458
Nvidia RTX windows drivers as of 6/19/2025 still blackscreen nonstop, BSOD with HDR, and more.

>>105643534
Ideally you turn your computer off and spray into each fan. Then you can generally spray around the board and such to clear any dust in the area. It's a really fast process and you'll intuitively get it when it's in your hand.

I need some help lads. I just got my MAG321UP. I need a pair of cheap PC speakers that don't look like garbage. I don't need any audiophile gear cheap $20 or whatever set of speakers will do just fine. pretty much something that I can just power through the USB (either the one on the monitor or the one on the PC) and just plug into the monitor's audio jack because I also have a console hooked up to it. I'll pretty much mostly use it to listen to random youtube shit so as long as they don't rattle it's fine.
I was looking at something like picrel but I unironically noped just because I can't put it directly under the screen on the account of base of the monitor not being flat.

I do not have a compressed air. Is it retarded to use car's fancy tool that uses to pump air pressure to wheels as a replacement for it?

>>105643527
MPO is a Microsoft Windows / DirectX issue, period.

>>105643541
In your Radeon fan fiction, not in reality.

>>105643555
Alright, I always thought the components would get wet and it could destroy something

>>105643569
Yes. There's no filtration on that thing, you'll end up throwing a bunch of random shit onto whatever surface you use it on.

>>105643527
>you cant name a single driver version with the words "fixed mpo"
Because there's nothing to fix on NVIDIA's end, MPO issues need to be resolved by Microsoft, just like Chrome brower-related issues have to be fixed by Google, not NVIDIA or AMD.

>>105643578
Don't have to worry about that. You can get some condensation but it evaporates almost immediately. There's more water on the board for longer when you're soldering and cleaning up with iso. It's just not something to be concerned about

I cannot find a fucking case without a jeetered glass panel in my third world local market. What should I do??

>>105641694
people kvetch about how bad pixel rendering is even on 166ppi qd, people say woled is better, other say qdoled is better
all spergs
maybe I will go 500hz, maybe not
wonder if it's worth
when 4k500hz is out we are gonna get 1440p1000hz
tiring
other people definately say don't go with a 1440p woled at this point get 4k, idk
but muh 480 500hz
still fomo

Why did Microsoft make mpo and not finish it before forcing it upon literally everyone. Does it allow them to spy on us easier? Why don’t they allow us to turn it off (the reg edit doesn’t work in 24h2 and this is by design) if nobody can make it work properly?

>>105643541
>BSOD with HDR
Fixed in 576.28. Cope on.

>>105643655
>if nobody can make it work properly?
Everyone else isn't legally allowed to access Microsoft's protected codes.
Only third-world retards make it an AMD vs. NVIDIA issue when it's more appropriate to be a Linux vs. Windows brand war.

>>105643655
>Why don’t they allow us to turn it off
for the same reason why I cant move the taskbar anymore under 24H2 or the start menu is a react native app causing CPU spikes whenever you open it. W11 is made by total retards.

>>105643636
At some point we will have retro monitors running on 30/60 Hz

>>105643323
I take it outside and blast it with air
If I'm feeling it needs more I'll remove gpu and brush it off with some stiff brushes

>>105643541
>>105643535
>>105643405

Why don't I have any problems with neither 4090 nor 5070 Ti under Win10?
Am I really so much smarter, so much more skilled than you?

Use driver v566.45 with Ada!
Use driver v576.02 with Blackwell!

Use DDU to deinstall driver, prevent Windows update from reinstalling older driver
Use NVCleanstall to install driver, deselect any app and telemetry crap in custom install.
Use Microsoft Store to install NVIDIA Control Panel if you really miss it.

Follow this procedure or tell me how to reproduce your memetic black screens!

>need a new mouse pad

anyone have experience with Artisan?
I'm considering between the Artisan OSU and a Cordura pad from engamegear. Any recommendations?

>>105643563
I'd ask in /iemg/ & /pmpg/ - In-Ear Monitor & Portable Music Player General >>105642177
Tell them your budget and the type of speaker you're looking for, some of the people there are very helpful.
I've gotten some useful headphones & DAC purchasing tips from that general.

A black screen just flew over my house

>>105643782
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/pebkac/

>>105643738
>Use driver v576.02 with Blackwell!
This version has a bug with the temp readouts after sleep mode which can cause overheating. 572.86 was more stable on a 5090 at least.

>>105643859
>>105643859
>>105643859

>>105643738
He's just the resident retard of /pcbg/, and doesn't own a GeForce card.
If you see someone blaming NVIDIA for Windows / DirectX MPO issues, you'll know it's him.

>>105643839
> 572.86 was more stable on a 5090 at least.
If it doesn't introduce any new issues then use it for your 5090. My 5070 Ti gets only lukewarm with v576.02 thanks to premium overkill cooling system.

>>105643937
Yea I recall 572.86 wasnt that good for 60/70 cards. I think to reproduce the bug you had to set a custom fan curve via software and then enter sleep. After the wakeup the temperature readout wouldnt update anymore with the last value being constant. This could fry your GPU in theory if you have something like a 0% fan under certain temperatures. The hotfix one fixed this from what I remember. If you dont use sleep it's not relevant

>>105643762
Not getting an answer here was just as helpful as what I got there.

>>105644078
Attach an interesting image or something.

Where are the diminishing returns on multiple SLI'd cards for coprocessing (AI/mining), or is more always more until you hit an unrealistic number that exceeds the PCIE bus lane capacity? Should I just grab a bunch of 3090 Ti liek rn?
>choose two of the following applications
AI/LLM training & work (including scraping)
Bitcoin/Monero/ETC/etc cypto mining (or serving as a smart contract node)
Cranking out video (generated & handcrafted)
Vidya Gaemz (highest possible settings)
Hosting a nice comfy custom minecraft server or something like that to hang out in where you can say every word that starts with the first letter of the second half of the modern English alphabet
>chose one of the following CPUs
16 core Ryzen 9950X3D
24 core Threadripper 3960X
>choose one of the following SLI schemes
2 x 3090 Ti (pcie16)
3 x 3090 Ti (pcie16)
4 x 3090 Ti (pcie16)

>>105638129
Please refrain from wasting thread space on blue checkmark twitter ragebait.

>>105638978
>bifurcation
holy shit this motherfuckers are WAY out of my budget, sticking with a fucking single card board for now, holy jesus christ, that fucker is like twice the cost of the CPU, motherboard is going to be a fucking spare part here, fuck me

>>105640546
>You want that value to show [PCIe x16 4.0 @ x16 or 3.0 x16] depending on your motherboard.

It says 5.0, but bigger number means better right? Or does this mean my GPU is too heavy for my mobo?
I ran both tests and looks like I'm on the bell curve which is nice. Idk about overclocking/undervolting so it's just set to auto on my AMD software.

Only weird graphical thing I really notice is that there are these weird artifacts/ghost-like/afterimage colors when there's moving things in the background/on-screen sometimes. I've never had a 1440p 144 hz monitor with FreeSync and wondering if that has anything to do with it as well, but its difficult because there's sync stuff/resolution on my monitor, on Windows, on the AMD GPU software, and in game settings themselves.

Also. Thanks guys, learning a lot.

>>105645052
The card is running at Gen 4x 16, which is what you want to see.
The highlighted value is the one that matters.
Your board can only support up to Gen 4x 16, you're not missing out on much performance compared to Gen 5x 16.

Time Spy results show your video card is working just fine, it's harder to get an average score on 3DMark because of self-selection bias (people who care about PC performance tuning and OCing are more likely to run these tests, skewing the averages).

I don't have a solution for that Radeon glitch you're describing, try switching the display cables and connecting it to the DisplayPort instead of HDMI.