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Anonymous No.105643653 [Report] >>105643765 >>105644630 >>105646393 >>105647287
I have an old HP laptop lying around. It has a touchscreen but mint cinnamon (afaik the most normie-friendly just werks distro) doesn't register it. Worth trying a bunch of other distros or do I accept it's unsupported?
Anonymous No.105643765 [Report] >>105644202
>>105643653
I'm trying to sort out my old laptop in the old thread. In my day ubuntu was the best Linux distro for it just works. I'm sure nowadays ppl will be telling you to use some other shite but Ubuntu has a current LTsc and I don't know why the hell noone mentions it and only these weird distros.
Anonymous No.105643820 [Report] >>105643969 >>105647297
>>105643590 (OP)
who is this nigress and why op is spamming on the linux threads constantly
Anonymous No.105643903 [Report]
>>105643590 (OP)
Thank god for no tranny threads
Anonymous No.105643915 [Report] >>105644079 >>105644115 >>105654778
how do i make hyprland look like that?
Anonymous No.105643969 [Report]
>>105643820
It's from some Sony's flop videogame which was made entirely by DEI hires and crazed leftists. Apparently it cost 300 million dollars to make and it couldn't even reach 300 active players.
Anonymous No.105644079 [Report]
>>105643915
Put some strawberries in your disc drive and blend them up
Anonymous No.105644115 [Report]
>>105643915
satisfy all dependencies first, one of which is to troon out.
Anonymous No.105644202 [Report]
>>105643765
mint is ubuntu ltsc, grandpa
Anonymous No.105644264 [Report] >>105644346 >>105644573 >>105654956 >>105664095
>>105643590 (OP)
Should I go with Nobara or Bazzite bros? I'm looking for a SteamOS-like experience since it's gonna be my first distro.
>wiki
Doesnt mention Nobara.
Anonymous No.105644346 [Report]
>>105644264
Bazzite is slightly better.
Anonymous No.105644464 [Report]
>People shill AMD drivers
>Switch to AMD
>flip_done timed out
Waow thanks bros I do love restarning my DE every hours and so.
Anonymous No.105644519 [Report] >>105644557 >>105647282
What's a good "retro" theme for cinnamon? I know it's a stupid question, but I'm tired of the minimalist horseshit floating about. Just want something low-res looking.
>inb4 xfce
Anonymous No.105644557 [Report]
>>105644519
Mint-XP
Anonymous No.105644573 [Report]
>>105644264
Bazzite is significantly better
Anonymous No.105644630 [Report]
>>105643653
What model?
Anonymous No.105645253 [Report] >>105645264 >>105647257
>mfw building my own distro means I NEED my own package manager
Building everything manually is hell and there's no way to track dependencies other than building your own dependency tree and package manager that utilizes it.

>need mirrors for sources
>need dependencies of sources
>need simple scripts as package manager

Idk I guess I'll write the scripts in bash but I could also write it in a real lang idk. But Idk if this is worth it it's a shitload of work for what? I already know how it goes in theory and I already have a basic booting system that has a toolchain. From now on it's just boring work so I might as well quit here.
Anonymous No.105645264 [Report] >>105649656
>>105645253
i mean you could always use pkgsrc or something
Anonymous No.105646393 [Report]
>>105643653
>HP
lol
lmao even
Anonymous No.105646541 [Report]
>>105643590 (OP)
>bazzesnstein
I read that as Bassistein.
Anonymous No.105647125 [Report]
Anyone got a list of recommended music making programs for beginners
Anonymous No.105647225 [Report] >>105647255
What kind of desktop hardware should i adquire if all i want to do is spam Rider for money, and mostly listen crap music, write old Minecraft mods and fuck around in Blender on my free time, and ocasionally whatever variant for gooning and refactoring garbage code? Is using an AMD CPU and Nvidia card doable or am i shooting myself in the foot? My distros of choices are either Debian, Arch or Fedora, whatever of those i'm fine. Though i asume that's mostly irrelevant as long as i don't buy a super new mobo.
Anonymous No.105647255 [Report] >>105647271
>>105647225
Yeah that hardware should be fine. Maybe consider an amd gpu tho as it’s better supported
Anonymous No.105647257 [Report]
>>105645253
You now realize why everyone just spams Debian's live-build tool or use Gentoo/Nix/Guix.
>Idk I guess I'll write the scripts in bash but I could also write it in a real lang idk
Back then people used to do these tasks with Perl. Nowadays, they do Python.
Anonymous No.105647271 [Report]
>>105647255
Doesn't most AI shillware require Nvidia? I don't know, i'm ripping off my job's Claude subscription but i'd like to run something local for less work-safe shit. Don't get me wrong, Nvidia is a shit company that can kiss my ass, if i don't have to use them, i'm all ears. I'm fine with hobby level Blender support and running any LLM that's not too lobotomized.
Anonymous No.105647282 [Report]
>>105644519
Windoze 0.0
Mint-X
Humanity
Vertex Cinnamon
Semabe
Ambiance-RW
Anonymous No.105647287 [Report]
>>105643653
Why don't you hunt down the touch-screen number and then look to see if someone has made drivers for it? Surely you haven't installed Linux over Windows yet to where using devmgmt.msc will list it?
Anonymous No.105647297 [Report]
>>105643820
"She"'s from the turbo-flop Concord and was named "Bazz" (https://concord.wiki.gg/wiki/Bazz) OP is using that as a play on the fork also named Bazz.
Anonymous No.105647306 [Report]
Thinking of tossing up an ntfy.sh container to allow me to have mobile push notifications for events on my home server I want to keep an eye on, anyone have experience with it or are there better alternatives?
Anonymous No.105647593 [Report] >>105647784 >>105647940 >>105649570
I'm trying to get old school games working with bottles/wine.
How to get terminal output with bottles?
I've installed it through flatpak and used the game (Prince of persia:Sand of time) iso from the archive dump.
Anonymous No.105647602 [Report] >>105661282
Anyone knows a good place to get conky configs?
I have set up HTPC with KDE and want something visually nice instead of plain desktop.
Anonymous No.105647610 [Report] >>105647616 >>105647767
Is there any cli applications that play music from youtube?
Anonymous No.105647616 [Report] >>105649593
>>105647610
yeah, mpv. mopidy too maybe.
Anonymous No.105647728 [Report] >>105647746
I transferred to a new system and moved my flatpak apps over. Is there a way to "autodetect" what apps I pasted on my new drive?
Anonymous No.105647746 [Report] >>105648159
>>105647728
Did you copy their .desktop files in $HOME/.local/share/applications? That's what most launchers like Plasma's and Gnome use to find out what apps do you have installed.
Anonymous No.105647767 [Report] >>105649593
>>105647610
mpv works but check out soulseekqt or nicotine+, it's gonna sound way better than yt and seeding isn't necessary so if you don't like something you can just delete it after listening
Anonymous No.105647776 [Report]
is it possible to turn the really annoying "right click hold is a left click" thing in kde? like right click hold on this page and release over reload. why the FUCK would anyone want that
Anonymous No.105647784 [Report]
>>105647593
I don't use it but I assume you'd run the flatpak in a terminal instead of a desktop shortcut or however you start it
Anonymous No.105647940 [Report]
>>105647593
I've not tried with bottles, but i've done this with other flatpaks
# list the flatpaks installed on your system and look up for the bottles' one is gonna be a gay ass long namespace string, use less, a pipe, whatever, to find it it
flatpak list
# very likely is com.usebottles.bottles
# Then just run that over a terminal. Alternatively you can just write the stdout/err to a file of your liking
# flatpak run [whatever gay namespace] > /tmp/file-can-be-anywhere-really.txt 2>&1 -b &
# last bit will also catch most error messages, even the irrelevant ones, and fork the process so it frees the control of your shell
Anonymous No.105648018 [Report] >>105648450 >>105648520 >>105649453 >>105650467 >>105650762 >>105650899
>”Install Gentoo”

Okay? Now what? You’re telling me I spent five and a half hours reading a handbook and typing in commands in a terminal just to STILL have a terminal?

Seriously though this is my first time using ANYTHING other than windows and I have no idea what to do after installing this, does anyone have any advice. I don’t know what half the words you all use mean, and I followed a video guide for this mainly.
Anonymous No.105648024 [Report] >>105648040 >>105648054 >>105648076 >>105648267
so what browser am I supposed to use since firefox is just as advertiser friendly as chromium-based?
Anonymous No.105648038 [Report]
do I need an AMD GPU or can I switch with my RTX 4070?
my most recent Linux experience has been my Steam Deck over the last couple years and it's been enjoyable.
Anonymous No.105648040 [Report]
>>105648024
firefox+betterfox and geckium for the lulz
Anonymous No.105648054 [Report]
>>105648024
Zen + ad nauseum
Anonymous No.105648076 [Report]
>>105648024
Anon just use it with UBO like most people do.
Anonymous No.105648159 [Report]
Let's say I want to try different BIOS settings for my memory modules and processor, how do I benchmark my PC?
>>105647746
>$HOME/.local/share
>$HOME/.local
/usr/local ftw
Anonymous No.105648267 [Report]
>>105648024
waterfox. its the least autistic firefox fork.
its firefox without the garbage.
Anonymous No.105648450 [Report]
>>105648018
>Okay? Now what?
install the software you want to use, like a DE/WM, web browser, etc
>Seriously though this is my first time using ANYTHING other than windows
it's an interesting choice to go straight to gentoo, but i suppose it saves you needing to distrohop later
Anonymous No.105648520 [Report]
>>105648018
The wiki is your best friend, there's a page for just about everything.
You'll probably want to get familiar with package.use, package.accept_keywords, and what all the different emerge flags do.

Other than that, just install a DE or WM that you like, along with whatever else you need. KDE Plasma is a great place to start if you're coming from Windows, although it will take a little longer to compile than something light like XFCE. Good luck, anon!
Anonymous No.105649325 [Report] >>105649348
Where are the people saying kde is stable now? I've been using it for a week and I've had all kinds of krashes, kwin, plasma hander, panels... The worst being the shutdown and log ou button no longer working forcing me to hard shutdown.

I've used gnome for a month and experienced no crash.
Anonymous No.105649348 [Report] >>105649394
>>105649325
What version are you using? What distro?
Anonymous No.105649350 [Report] >>105649371
>>105643590 (OP)
Help a newbie out /fglt/

I finally switched from Windows 7 to Mint Cinnamon a few months ago. I'm liking it a lot but I've just built a new PC and I think I want to try something else now that I've grasped the basics. I've heard Mint isn't the best for games, though I've only encountered a few problems trying to get pirated games to work on Lutris. I also deeply miss smooth scrolling.

I've briefly looked at reviews of stuff like Ubuntu and Debian but everything seems to be all MacOS/Windows10/mobileappstore aesthetic bullshit which I can't stand. Is there a simple Windows 7-like UI that just werks for games and has smooth scrolling? Sorry if my questions are dumb, I'm very new.
Anonymous No.105649371 [Report] >>105649427
>>105649350
>that just werks for games
Bazzite
>simple Windows 7-like UI
Install the "Se7en Aero" or "Expose Air" theme for KDE Plasma, I guess? I'm not sure what you're looking for exactly since Cinnamon itself is kind of made to have a layout and UX similar to Windows 7.
>smooth scrolling
What is this exactly?
Anonymous No.105649394 [Report]
>>105649348
Latest stable version on Arch i.e. 6.3
Anonymous No.105649427 [Report] >>105649452 >>105649454
>>105649371
Thanks
>What is this exactly?
Hold middle mouse button on a browser page and you scan smoothly scroll up or down depending on where the cursor is. Maybe an easy thing to get and I'm just too retarded in which case I should probably stick to Mint.
Anonymous No.105649452 [Report] >>105649480
>>105649427
That exists on Linux. It'll be a browser configuration option, e.g. about:config on Firefox.
Anonymous No.105649453 [Report]
>>105648018
I have nothing to say because I cannot even comprehend the lack of knowledge you are suffering from right now. You most probably know and understand absolutely nothing, so there is nothing for me to say. Just... I don't know, just try to learn the basics first, like basics of the filesystem of linux (what is /, what is /usr, what is /home and so on) and the terminal (sh and bash).
Anonymous No.105649454 [Report] >>105649480
>>105649427
>Hold middle mouse button on a browser page and you scan smoothly scroll up or down depending on where the cursor is.
This is called auto-scrolling in Firefox. It's just disabled by default on their Linux build. Open this:
>about:preferences#general
And scroll all the way down and enable auto-scrolling.
Anonymous No.105649480 [Report]
>>105649452
>>105649454
Wow I was right, I am retarded. Thanks guys that's improved my life a lot.
Anonymous No.105649570 [Report]
>>105647593
>How to get terminal output with bottles?
You don't.
It's a bug.
Asshole devs, not only they actively stop people from making AUR package, they also incompetents they fucked the whole project.
https://github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles/issues/3843
Anonymous No.105649593 [Report]
>>105647616
I tried those, not really what's in mind
>>105647767
Thanks man.
But again, not my goal.
Cause many songs are not available in it, and sometimes I wasn't to listen to podcasts and remix and such.
Something like pic related.
Anonymous No.105649600 [Report] >>105659590
Is bidirectional language support terminal emulator related, or is there some package I need to install?
Anonymous No.105649656 [Report] >>105649907
>>105645264
I didn't know about pkgsrc, it looks pretty good, I'll try it thanks. Installing now...
Anonymous No.105649758 [Report] >>105650049
So I have a leftover 8gb GTX 3050, and I was wondering if it was worth it to replace my rx6600xt with it for blender rendering and gaming on Linux/windows dual boot.
Anonymous No.105649907 [Report] >>105650014
>>105649656
Lol my system is so minimal I'm running into trivial issues on pkgsrc bootstrap, such as missing /tmp or no such user as root :D - I should init the basic folders and users at first but I haven't bothered yet, whatever.
Anonymous No.105649981 [Report] >>105659590
Are ramdisks useful at all in the year 2025? I need to compile large rust projects for work (I know, it is how it is) and cargo is notoriously heavy on disk I/O, and I happen to have 64GB of RAM. Would it make any sense to use a tmpfs for the compilation directory, or can I just assume the linux kernel is good enough at caching that it will use my RAM effectively?

I'm thinking writes in particular might be a problem because I don't need 100% resiliance mid-compilation (if my PC crashes, I'll just recompile anyway), so even if the kernel caches reads aggressively a tmpfs would still help cache writes too. Is my reasoning correct?
Anonymous No.105650013 [Report]
Any reason to use kernel 6.8 instead of 6.11?
>Linux Mint user
Anonymous No.105650014 [Report]
>>105649907
Meh, the build almost succeeds but fails because I'm still missing stuff. Didn't expect pkgsrc to depend on ncurses...
Anonymous No.105650025 [Report] >>105651304 >>105651398 >>105651550 >>105655033
I got sunshine/moonlight working.
Is there a way to lock the sunshine host while still being able to connect and play the games fine?
I don't want people to watch my monitor.
Anonymous No.105650049 [Report] >>105650057 >>105650064
>>105649758
Nvidia kinda sucks on linux but blender rendering is faster
Anonymous No.105650057 [Report] >>105650096
>>105650049
I figured that, but I am worried that the increase in blender performance wouldn't be anywhere near justifiable for the decrease in gaming performance compared to the 6600xt on windows
Anonymous No.105650064 [Report]
>>105650049
For 16xx/20xx series cards and up they can use the new nvidia-open drivers which work much better then the old nvidia driver packs.
Anonymous No.105650096 [Report]
>>105650057
You're right it's not worth it.
And it's not just gaming, wayland DEs are not as smooth and stable as they should be with when run on an nvidia card so the whole desktop experience will not be great either.
Anonymous No.105650129 [Report] >>105650196 >>105650205 >>105650224 >>105650232 >>105650328 >>105653691
I'm planning to install my first linux distro on my laptop, I'll do 80% work and 20% old games and movies, either connected to an ultrawide monitor or 4k tv.
It's an asus zenbook s13, with a 6800u.
Should I do bazzite or nobara? (Or a different one) If you wonder why I picked those two is cause I heard I'd have the least issues with drivers/external screens
Anonymous No.105650196 [Report] >>105650232
>>105650129
I've heard pop was good for people using nvidia, but you can always just apt search for drivers with any debian based os
Anonymous No.105650205 [Report]
>>105650129
Nobara would be best IMO. Better as a first Linux that gives you more control then an immutable one like Bazzite.
Or if the "less breakage" works better for you then go for Bazzite instead.
Anonymous No.105650224 [Report]
>>105650129
I'd go with Nobara since you plan to use your pc for work.
Bazzite would been more justified if you were using it 80% for gaming.
Anonymous No.105650232 [Report]
>>105650129
Bazzite. It's just Nobara but even better.

>>105650196
PopOS isn't the only distro in the universe which ships with nVidia drivers, you know.
Anonymous No.105650328 [Report] >>105650363
>>105650129
Unironically, Arch or manjaro.
I'd go with manjaro.
>up to date ~ish
>Decent out of the box exprince
>DE (mouse, foot, plasma)
>decent non toxic community
Try it anon, I've been doing exactly what you do
>I picked those two is cause I heard I'd have the least issues with drivers/external screens
I've tried kde and xfce both have no issues
Anonymous No.105650363 [Report] >>105650376 >>105650820
>>105650328
>Recommending Manjaro
Fucking stop
Anonymous No.105650376 [Report]
>>105650363
salty tears are delicious
Anonymous No.105650467 [Report]
>>105648018
In this anon, I was able to figure out package.use and emerge LXQt but I have no idea how to run it or make it start automatically
Anonymous No.105650498 [Report] >>105650614
How to get thinkcenter m910q fan speed monitoring on arch linux?
lm_sensors aren't detecting it.
However hardware info on windows do.
Anonymous No.105650614 [Report] >>105650661
>>105650498
According to Arch forum posts the driver module needed to get readings from the chipset this Thinkcenter uses should already be in the mainline kernel.
Anonymous No.105650661 [Report]
>>105650614
It should right?
I wasn't getting a reading only CPU temps, so I ran sensors-detect and I just manged to get the NVME temps.
I don't want any control just get the rpm
Anonymous No.105650662 [Report] >>105650705 >>105650711 >>105650715 >>105650721 >>105654973
>neofetch finally got removed from the arch repo
Anonymous No.105650705 [Report] >>105650715
>>105650662
back in my day, we called it `screenfetch`
Anonymous No.105650711 [Report]
>>105650662
do I need to uninstall it?
Anonymous No.105650715 [Report] >>105650724
>>105650705
>>105650662
retarded sycophant slaves
Anonymous No.105650721 [Report]
>>105650662
Most users have moved to fastfetch anyway.
Anonymous No.105650724 [Report] >>105650956
>>105650715
i'm not even american, it's just funny
Anonymous No.105650762 [Report]
>>105648018
blurred local ip lol
Anonymous No.105650820 [Report]
>>105650363
what's your issue with it? (other than it being sometimes unstable/buggy)
Anonymous No.105650899 [Report]
>>105648018
>I spent five and a half hours reading a handbook and typing in commands in a terminal just to STILL have a terminal?
yea, i mean it's a lot faster if you know what you're doing. you're learning all the basics at the same time, so it's going to take much longer.
first time i installed gentoo i was at a gnome (2.x) desktop with firefox and many basics 3 hours in, most of which was spent on downloading and compiling, but i'd been using linux for years already so i only needed to learn things specific to gentoo
you're doing pretty good if you got a bootable gentoo install on your first go having never touched linux before.
it depends on what you want to use the computer for, but considering the specs i'd assume this is your main desktop, so you'll probably want to decide on what DE (desktop environment) you want to install, unless you want to do a more minimal setup
Anonymous No.105650956 [Report]
>>105650724
hey check this out
Anonymous No.105651228 [Report] >>105651579
any of you on linux mint 22.1? mind posting the England wallpaper?
Anonymous No.105651304 [Report] >>105651394
>>105650025
Have you tried just locking the session (assuming you're using a DE)?
Anonymous No.105651394 [Report]
>>105651304
>Have you tried just locking the session
Well yeah.
I thought of this.
When I lock the session, and when I connect to it, I'm greeted with the lockscreen.
If I unlock it from the moonlight client, the host get unlock as well.
And yes, I'm using KDE
Anonymous No.105651398 [Report] >>105651409
>>105650025
turn off the monitor
Anonymous No.105651409 [Report] >>105651423 >>105655033
>>105651398
>turn off the monitor
this would disconnect the sunshine server.
Does anyone use linux here?
Anonymous No.105651423 [Report] >>105651436 >>105651463
>>105651409
works for me with the monitor turned off
Anonymous No.105651435 [Report] >>105651441 >>105651547
How high are the chances of my laptop's F keys not working if I move to linux? what about the alt functions to change volume/brightness and such?
And if so, how much of a pain in the ass is it to get them working again?
Gonna try Fedora if that matters
Anonymous No.105651436 [Report]
>>105651423
why do you lie?
Unless you are using those dummy plugs.
Anonymous No.105651441 [Report] >>105651604
>>105651435
Test in live USB and see.
Unless it's something obscure, most if not all work OOTB, since the keys are actually manged by the firmware on the keyboard.
Anonymous No.105651463 [Report] >>105651480 >>105655033
>>105651423
Imagine telling lies on the internet
https://github.com/LizardByte/Sunshine/issues/3518
Anonymous No.105651480 [Report] >>105651497
>>105651463
i don't use nvidia, and i'm not disabling the output, i'm talking about turning off the monitor like with the power button on the monitor
Anonymous No.105651497 [Report] >>105651525
>>105651480
Yes anon, this doesn't work.
Your monitor isn't actually turned off for a start, it's not showing anything but it's still on which is why EDID still being passed.
And turning off the monitor is pajeet level advice, what's stopping anyone from turning it back on?
Anonymous No.105651525 [Report] >>105651546 >>105651550
>>105651497
>Your monitor isn't actually turned off for a start, it's not showing anything but it's still on which is why EDID still being passed.
yea, that's why the gpu is still outputting a picture, because it can see a monitor is attached, but there's no picture because i turned it off. isn't that what anon wants?
>what's stopping anyone from turning it back on?
if there's a security issue then he should be more specific
Anonymous No.105651546 [Report]
>>105651525
I think you need to work on your reading comprehension, ESL-kun
Anonymous No.105651547 [Report] >>105651604
>>105651435
Seconding anon saying to just load up a live USB and see if the function keys work in a live session on the distro you wanna use.
Anonymous No.105651550 [Report] >>105651593
>>105651525
>if there's a security issue then he should be more specific
Anon...
>>105650025
>Is there a way to lock the sunshine host
Anonymous No.105651579 [Report] >>105651678
>>105651228
I think this is the correct package but I don't see any England background
http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/main/m/mint-backgrounds-wallpapers/mint-backgrounds-wallpapers_1.0.tar.gz
Anonymous No.105651593 [Report] >>105651612 >>105651617 >>105651617
>>105651550
"lock the host" is ambiguous, and he clarified in the same post with "i don't want people to watch my monitor"
turning off the monitor satisfies his requirements
Anonymous No.105651604 [Report] >>105651612 >>105651631
>>105651441
>>105651547
Good lord that's the most obvious option and it didn't even cross my mind
thanks bros
Anonymous No.105651612 [Report]
>>105651593
>Its not a bug, it's a feature
>>105651604
dm bro
Anonymous No.105651617 [Report]
>>105651593
"lock the host" is not ambiguous at all. Locking is a common and standard concept.

>>>105651593
>"i don't want people to watch my monitor"
>turning off the monitor satisfies his requirements
It doesn't, since even after turning it off, anyone can still watch his monitor just by pressing one button.
Anonymous No.105651631 [Report] >>105651710
>>105651604
yea that is the easiest way to find out what it'll be like ootb, but even if something doesn't work ootb, it doesn't mean it can't be made to
i haven't personally run into a laptop where special functions keys literally /do not work/, however whether they do what their label suggests without configuration may be another story
like on my thinkpad things like brightness shortcuts work ootb because thinkpads are popular laptops. on other laptops you may need to configure your wm/de for them
Anonymous No.105651676 [Report] >>105651709 >>105651710 >>105651801 >>105653599
Lubuntu vs mint xface.

My use is just browser and spreadsheet and spotify. I like having lightweight and snappy fast

which one to use
Anonymous No.105651678 [Report]
>>105651579
thanks. it's a bunch of symlinks mostly but there are a bunch of nice full-sized jpegs. i might also be remembering it wrong as i was playing about with mint and ubuntu cinnamon due to mint kernels not supporting my onboard nic.
Anonymous No.105651691 [Report] >>105651710 >>105651713 >>105651801 >>105651868 >>105652593
will linux users really make fun of me if i use mint
Anonymous No.105651709 [Report]
>>105651676
Then use Lubuntu
Anonymous No.105651710 [Report]
>>105651631
From my experience the function keys are universal and work fine, but some DEs (or distros) don't map them at all.

>>105651676
Mint Xfce. They're equally light, but Mint doesn't look like shit.

>>105651691
There will always be people who will make fun of you for doing/using/owning something or not doing/using/owning something.
Learn to ignore retards.
Anonymous No.105651713 [Report] >>105651801 >>105651824
>>105651691
the only distro i will actively make fun of someone for using is manjaro
Anonymous No.105651801 [Report]
>>105651676
mouse
>>105651691
no
>>105651713
You're just jelly
Anonymous No.105651824 [Report] >>105651848 >>105651863 >>105651879
>>105651713
>nooo, you can't use an Arch-based distribution >:( . You should just set up Arch yourself!
Anonymous No.105651848 [Report]
>>105651824
nope, not the issue
Anonymous No.105651863 [Report]
>>105651824
I don't approve manjaro for certain things.
But the hate is not justified.
It gives decent OOTB experince, with sane defaults, and goo intro to rolling distro.
Arcolinux is good option as well.
But currently I suggest mabox.
It's beautiful, up to date, and lightweight.
The rest are...
>endeavor
Theme distro
>garuda
Pajeet distro
>artrix
brap distro
>Blackarch
scriptkiddie distro
Anonymous No.105651868 [Report]
>>105651691
Nah use whatever you want, what you should care about is what package manager do you want long term
Anonymous No.105651879 [Report]
>>105651824
I think the main problem is how they hold back packages on their repos
Anonymous No.105651934 [Report]
it was in the wilma tar.gz
Anonymous No.105651958 [Report] >>105651982 >>105652100 >>105652311 >>105652459
Why do you use Arch
Anonymous No.105651982 [Report] >>105652187
>>105651958
Does what I want and never fights me. If something goes wrong it'll most likely be my fault unless it's something front page news worthy.
Anonymous No.105652100 [Report]
>>105651958
I just like pacman idk after years of dealing with apt upgrade ppas it just felt better to use and maintain
Anonymous No.105652187 [Report] >>105652522 >>105652566 >>105654437 >>105659727
https://archlinux.org/news/plasma-640-will-need-manual-intervention-if-you-are-on-x11/
>On Plasma 6.4 the wayland session will be the only one installed when the users does not manually specify kwin-x11.
>With the recent split of kwin into kwin-wayland and kwin-x11, users running the old X11 session needs to manually install plasma-x11-session, or they will not be able to login. Currently pacman is not able to figure out your personal setup, and it wouldn't be ok to install plasma-x11-session and kwin-x11 for every one using Plasma.
>tldr: Install plasma-x11-session if you are still using x11
Every day I pray for the downfall of redhat and freedesktop for what they've done to sabotage Xorg.

>>105651982
This, for the most part.
Anonymous No.105652311 [Report]
>>105651958
I don't, but I do have an Atom 2 with Octavia on the lid.
Anonymous No.105652459 [Report]
>>105651958
pacman + AUR
And I want rolling release.
Anonymous No.105652470 [Report]
>laptop has an igpu and an Nvidia dgpu
>cold start on battery
>dgpu stays awake (d0)
>reboot
>dgpu falls back asleep a couple of seconds after boot (d3cold)
>if I plug it to the charger then unplug it, it refuses to sleep again
I don't get it
Anonymous No.105652522 [Report] >>105652772
>>105652187
Wait, this is vague.
If I'm on waylandو I don't need to install x11?
Or it would just move me to wayland?
And if I have legacy applications would i need x11?
Because I just get kwin package.
Anonymous No.105652566 [Report]
>>105652187
What gets me about this whole wayland vs x11 war is that x11 still works with the exception of a few non critical features
Anonymous No.105652593 [Report]
>>105651691
i'll make fun of you for a lot of reasons but not likely for your distro choice.
Anonymous No.105652608 [Report] >>105652660 >>105652964 >>105653127
Is there a way to isolate audio to the desktop where the software window is on Fedora KDE Plasma? Like i don't want to hear audio from desktop 1 software when i am on desktop 2.
Anonymous No.105652660 [Report] >>105653007
>>105652608
The audio server has no concept of a desktop.
Anonymous No.105652772 [Report] >>105653325
>>105652522
That's about the session. You don't need to install it if you're using wyaland sessions.
Legacy applications run via xwayland, which is unaffected by this change.
Anonymous No.105652964 [Report]
>>105652608
Was about to suggest to mute the application running in Desktop 1 but I get your idea and it makes sense. Most likely this needs to be developed as a kwin script
Anonymous No.105652994 [Report]
>running game
>whenever the game loses focus it minimizes
>also prevents me from having anything overlayed on top of it
>also makes everything outside the game laggy as fuck while it's running
>run the game through gamescope
>all problems gone
Thank you Gaben
Anonymous No.105653007 [Report]
>>105652660
plese make is understande
Anonymous No.105653127 [Report]
>>105652608
You can create a script for this.
Anonymous No.105653173 [Report] >>105653222 >>105653342 >>105653426
How easy is it to install & run 2 Windows programs on Linux as well as one standalone game (meaning there's no installer)?
Anonymous No.105653222 [Report] >>105653269
>>105653173
It's almost identical to doing this in Windows.
Anonymous No.105653269 [Report] >>105653312
>>105653222
What will I need, just WINE & Proton from whatever package manager the distro uses? Might need 5 Windows only programs, actually.
Anonymous No.105653312 [Report]
>>105653269
You can just use Bottles - https://flathub.org/apps/com.usebottles.bottles

Bottles and Lutris set up the wine prefix (virtual Windows environment) for you and provide a GUI for dependency management if needed.
If you want to do things manually then sure, you could just install WINE or Proton and double click on .exe files to run them with WINE/Proton.
Anonymous No.105653325 [Report]
>>105652772
That's not how I understood it.
Anonymous No.105653342 [Report]
>>105653173
Depends on the programs/games
But try wine, or bottles.
The latter being more easy to configure, and actually follow wine devs recommendations.
Anonymous No.105653426 [Report]
>>105653173
It depends on the program, sometimes it works out of the box sometimes it needs a component like vcrun2013 that you can install with winetricks or through whatever launcher you prefer. For the standalone game you'd probably want to create the prefix and move the game in the drive_c folder it created.
Anonymous No.105653599 [Report] >>105653693
>>105651676
I personally prefer LXQt to XFCE but it's personal taste I guess.

As for Ubuntu vs Mint, the difference people always talk about is snaps. Ubuntu is already set up to allow installation of snaps, while I think Mint isn't. But I don't see why people make a huge fuss about snaps. I think snaps can be useful sometimes (e.g. if I want to install Ruby, there's an official snap for that, and it's the latest version, rather than the deb from the repos, which is an old version). And if you don't want snaps you don't need to use them. E.g. if you want Firefox as a deb rather than a snap, Mozilla offers an official Firefox deb on their website.
Anonymous No.105653646 [Report]
Freedom.
Anonymous No.105653655 [Report]
GNUKE
Anonymous No.105653691 [Report] >>105654036
>>105650129
Hi I'm back thanks all for the recommendations, love how Nobara looks and feels so far, it's so snappy holy shit, I can tell I'll spend a long while customizing it too.
Anonymous No.105653693 [Report] >>105654670
>>105653599
>I don't see why people make a huge fuss about snaps
I haven't used Ubuntu in 2 years and haven't used snaps in 3 years, but snaps were just a huge clusterfuck back then.
>automatic background updates which cannot be turned off
>apps open noticeably slower than native, appimage and flatpaks
>apps don't follow your system theme
>each app creates a random mount device which clogs your file manager
>some apps are months or years behind in updates compared to flatpak and homebrew
>cannot downgrade apps to a previous version in case of newly introduced bugs
>doesn't have many apps, so you're likely going to use flathub anyway and at that point why would you use 2 different package managers which serve the same purpose?
I hope they fixed at least some of these issues. But it doesn't change the fact that flatpak has been picked as a de-facto standard for GUI applications and it basically makes snaps irrelevant.
Anonymous No.105653709 [Report]
Arch Plasma 6.4 is amazing holy fuck
Anonymous No.105653893 [Report] >>105653924 >>105654074
Friendly reminder
Anonymous No.105653924 [Report]
>>105653893
Thanks for reminder, friend
Anonymous No.105654036 [Report] >>105654082 >>105654447
>>105653691
Nobora is deprecated install Bazzite
Anonymous No.105654074 [Report] >>105654170
>>105653893
why wayland is shit?
Anonymous No.105654082 [Report] >>105654149
>>105654036
>meme distro is deprecated
>install this other meme distro
Whats the difference.
Anonymous No.105654135 [Report] >>105654447
Bazzite is kinda based to be honest, but I hate this immutable distro, everything is a flatpak shit.
I can't even get virtmanager to run.

Actually mad cuz bad
Anonymous No.105654149 [Report]
>>105654082
bazzite sperg is for entertainment purposes only
Anonymous No.105654170 [Report]
>>105654074
If you can't notice the issues then it fits your use case and you don't have to worry about it.
Anonymous No.105654437 [Report]
>>105652187
I'd be on wayland but it autocrashes on startup for me lmao, only the x11 session actually launches successfully
Anonymous No.105654447 [Report] >>105654506
>>105654036
There's no point in trying to convince people to switch to a distro when the difference is minimal. If a person is happy on Nobara, leave them there. It's an OK distro.

>>105654135
Virt-Manager works fine anon. Run this in the terminal:
ujust setup-virtualization

It should set up everything. Alternatively, you could just install all the dependencies manually with rpm-ostree (which I did before I discovered ujust exists).
Anonymous No.105654506 [Report]
>>105654447
>Virt-Manager works fine anon. Run this in the terminal:
Thanks, that worked perfectly. I honestly forgot about the ujust command completely.
Anonymous No.105654670 [Report]
>>105653693
>>automatic background updates which cannot be turned off
`snap refresh --hold` will pause background updates forever
>>each app creates a random mount device which clogs your file manager
I haven't seen those devices in my file manager (on LXQt and GNOME)
>>some apps are months or years behind in updates compared to flatpak and homebrew
I don't use outdated snaps, definitely not. I only use a snap if (a) it's updated properly and (b) it's official (it has a tick to confirm it's official)
>>cannot downgrade apps to a previous version in case of newly introduced bugs
Apparently you can do that with a command such as `snap revert vlc --revision 500`
>>flatpak has been picked as a de-facto standard for GUI applications
I have both snap and flatpak because they offer different things. Official builds of Ruby are released as a snap but not as a flatpak for example.

I guess some people still don't want snaps, fair enough. I think they're sometimes useful though.
Anonymous No.105654767 [Report] >>105654794
is it hard to put libreboot/coreboot on a thinkpad and a linux distro? why do people do it?
Anonymous No.105654778 [Report] >>105654960
>>105643915
Literally why? these single colorschemes with multiple gradients look terrible and defeat the whole point
Anonymous No.105654794 [Report]
>>105654767
Based on my experience its not worth librebooting/corebooting theres too many random bugs and im tired of having to re-flash
>is it hard
Sort of, you need to know how to build the rom or find your own and also know how to use a flash clip
Anonymous No.105654956 [Report] >>105655043
>>105644264
Just use mint
Stop falling for this bazzite meme
Anonymous No.105654960 [Report]
>>105654778
I don't think ricers care that much about functionality
Anonymous No.105654973 [Report]
>>105650662
Its just a bash script you could just clone it yourself from the git repo
You might be missing out on the manpage and completion stuff unless you make install
Anonymous No.105655033 [Report] >>105655269
>>105650025
>>105651409
>>105651463
i had this issue before, you can do this over ssh to temporary fix it
DISPLAY=:0 xset dpms force on
or the other xset command that permanently stops the display from blanking
Anonymous No.105655043 [Report] >>105655086
>>105654956
Just use Bazzite
Stop falling for the Mint meme
Anonymous No.105655086 [Report]
>>105655043
>Bazzite
Literal meme
>Mint
Used by everyone including ecelebs
>inb4 you do the reverse
Anonymous No.105655119 [Report] >>105655146 >>105656832
Mint is just ass
>outdated
>cinammon
Anonymous No.105655146 [Report] >>105659714
>>105655119
the only two desktop distros worth it are Fedora, Arch and all of their spinoffs.
Anonymous No.105655269 [Report]
>>105655033
It's not the same problem anon.
But thanks.
Anonymous No.105655289 [Report] >>105655496
I was told gamescope is a miracle composer.
Why I;m getting shitty performance compared to Wine d3d?
Both are running in flatpaks desu
Anonymous No.105655372 [Report]
>>105643590 (OP)
So now that wow64 is enabled by default on wine 32 bit prefixes no longer work, very cool
Anonymous No.105655496 [Report] >>105655545
>>105655289
>compared to
gamescope layers on top of wine
it isn't a substitute for anything provided by wine
have you considered using normal system packages?
Anonymous No.105655515 [Report]
Say what you want about manjaro.
But it's the usable arch OOTB.
>Usefill pacman hooks (update grub/font cache, etc)
>zsh configured
>sane defaults
>Useful packages and "OPTIONAL" dependencies installed
>Aryan masterrace dev
Anonymous No.105655545 [Report] >>105655631
>>105655496
>have you considered using normal system packages?
No, because bottles require gamescope to be installed via flatpak.
Does it need certain permissions?
Or runtimes have different permissions by default.
Because when I use wine d3d rendering I get 60 fps with GPU being utilized.
While with gamescope, I get like half the frames with only CPU being used.
Anonymous No.105655631 [Report] >>105655845
>>105655545
Install flatseal and give it GPU access.
Anonymous No.105655720 [Report]
How do I get "Show Additional Information" to apply to all folders? Atm I have manually check video duration for all folders, is there no way to have dolphin always show the duration for all video files?
Anonymous No.105655845 [Report]
>>105655631
>Install flatseal and give it GPU access.
I tried.
it doesn't show up under flatseal
Anonymous No.105656214 [Report] >>105661342
Should I install hdparm on arch to handle HDD spindown when it's not being accessed or this would negatively affect the lifespan of the hard drives?
Anonymous No.105656681 [Report] >>105656882 >>105657878 >>105658862 >>105658939
>linux just works
>*forced to enter commandshit*

so if you're new to troonix are you just supposed to know how to do this or something?

>year of the linux desktop
kek
Anonymous No.105656832 [Report]
>>105655119
I made the mistake of downloading the cinnamon version of mint when I switched, but it's ridiculously easy to switch to xfce or even one of those tiling window managers.
Anonymous No.105656834 [Report]
did arch nuke virtualenv for python? pip is fully broken and i had to switch over to venv.
Anonymous No.105656882 [Report] >>105657878
>>105656681
Why on earth does it not build synchronously as a dnf hook? Fedora is ass.
Anonymous No.105656928 [Report] >>105656946 >>105660594
I wish arch would move to an immutable model instead of the shit we get now
Anonymous No.105656946 [Report] >>105656956
>>105656928
that's retarded.
move to nix if you want.
Anonymous No.105656956 [Report] >>105657155
>>105656946
I want to use arch
Anonymous No.105657155 [Report]
>>105656956
You don't hence why you want immutable shit.
Anonymous No.105657267 [Report]
I'm having a problem with my drawing tablet (Gaomon 602). It only works in the red area, and if I force it to continue drawing, it starts moving diagonally or does nothing.
It used to work fine, but I accidentally enabled the mapping option and can't get it working normally again.
I'm using Nobara/Fedora.
I tried it on my Mint laptop and my Windows disk, and it works without problems. I changed the version of Nobara at startup, but it still doesn't work normally.
I'm using the operating system's default tool to configure the tablet. I can't use the same company's tool because it's only available in deb and tar formats. I use Alien to change the format, but when I install it, the program doesn't recognize the tablet.
I'd thought about reinstalling Nobara, but I want to avoid having to reinstall everything.
What are my alternatives?
Anonymous No.105657366 [Report]
What is immutability even? Having your root filesystem as squashfs image or something similar? And then you'd "overlay" on top of it?
Anonymous No.105657870 [Report]
>>105643590 (OP)
Is there a point in using poetry inside docker for Django projects? I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this, or if it's even a good idea.
Anonymous No.105657878 [Report]
>>105656681
>>105656882
Linux trannies still blown the fuck out by this one eh?
Anonymous No.105658001 [Report] >>105658088
I couldn't ssh into my new computer but could ssh as to my other computer and I don't remember setting up anything different. I copied my keys to the authizored keyfile and everything works now but is this something new?
Anonymous No.105658088 [Report] >>105658112
>>105658001
Check sshd config on target computer. It probably defaults to no password key file login, but I have never seen that as a default.
Anonymous No.105658112 [Report]
>>105658088
There are major differences in the config files! I guess I did make alterations many moons ago. Cheers.
Anonymous No.105658264 [Report] >>105658288
Hi hi, I'm using wayland and the only trackpad settings I can find are for 2 fingers, but I want to be able to zoom in and use 3 finger gestures like I used to on windows. Tried touchegg but it doesn't actually work properly on Wayland.

What can I do bros
Anonymous No.105658288 [Report] >>105658299
>>105658264
Isn't this shit supported ootb in gnome
Anonymous No.105658299 [Report]
>>105658288
I'm also using KDE, forgot to mention
Anonymous No.105658862 [Report]
>>105656681
>people explicitly say that the distros that work are Bazzite and Nobara
>anon installs vanilla Fedora
Anonymous No.105658939 [Report] >>105659163 >>105659932 >>105660325
>two similar PCs
>one beefier, with 4x more CPU cores and a huge cooler
>use the beefier PC to compile a Gentoo system (in a chroot)
>copy the whole thing over (via NFS) to the weaker one
>????
Is there a cleverer way of doing this? The weaker system doesn't make use of GCC or Emerge or any of that, it only runs binaries.
>>105656681
Most distros don't offer an "app store" so you got to type commands no matter what.
Wonder why they don't though!
Anonymous No.105659147 [Report] >>105659154
I was told arch is run by trannies and I should use Artix instead

Thoughts? How is artix
Anonymous No.105659154 [Report]
>>105659147
>Artix
>based on Arch
its basically trannyfied by association
Anonymous No.105659163 [Report]
>>105658939
>Most distros don't offer an "app store"
Only ones which are made for sysadmins.
Anonymous No.105659223 [Report] >>105659251
why the fuck gayland won't allow me to pin a fullscreen window with always on top or for that matter even move it to the second monitor???
Anonymous No.105659251 [Report] >>105659255
>>105659223
Works fine on KDE Plasma
Anonymous No.105659255 [Report] >>105659273
>>105659251
it does not work fine on kde plasma, especially on shit like Minecraft unless it's windowed
Anonymous No.105659273 [Report]
>>105659255
I literally just tried it and it works fine. You're either on a broken distro or on an outdated version of Plasma.
Anonymous No.105659319 [Report] >>105659323 >>105659355
>>105643590 (OP)
>still can't shrink the partition to dual-boot in the installer
so much for being the "most professional" distro
Anonymous No.105659323 [Report] >>105659355 >>105659400 >>105661197
>>105659319
Thast because dual booting is a meme
Anonymous No.105659355 [Report] >>105659362
>>105659319
This >>105659323
"Professionals" don't dual boot. They spin up VMs or containers.
Anonymous No.105659362 [Report] >>105659404 >>105660186
>>105659355
and if you dual boot you do it with two separate drives.
Although I have to agree setting up your partition with the Fedora installer is garbage. They just want you to hit auto and go, which works but still annoying
Anonymous No.105659400 [Report] >>105661197
Is there a way to open multiple executable with one script?
>>105659323
This. Get a 2nd PC for gaming. Don't bother.
Anonymous No.105659404 [Report]
>>105659362
>and if you dual boot you do it with two separate drives.
Works fine with one
Anonymous No.105659448 [Report] >>105659462 >>105659463
im having a hard time deciding between debian or Lubuntu or mint xfce. Im not a noob, i can figure most things out but nowhere near i want to put effort time patience as needed for Arch
Anonymous No.105659462 [Report]
>>105659448
Distro doesn't matter. Same Kernel, same userland utils.
Anonymous No.105659463 [Report] >>105659530 >>105659534
>>105659448
>debian
>Lubuntu
>Mint Xfce
Any reason why you're trying to use janky DEs or distros over something with KDE or GNOME?
In any case, between the 3 of these Mint Xfce is the best.
Anonymous No.105659464 [Report] >>105659530
lets just say i like figuring out tech but nowhere near....
Anonymous No.105659530 [Report]
>>105659463
dumb schizo
>>105659464
DE matters more than distro, and pick something close to upstream, and stable. Arch isn't getting any special performance over Ubuntu.
Anonymous No.105659534 [Report] >>105659913
>>105659463
I don't know what any of that means. I just started with mont xfce. But isn't gnome heavy. I just like it light, my use with laptop is just browser, spreadsheet, and music.
Anonymous No.105659590 [Report] >>105660196
>>105649600
Terminal emulator. Konsole and Yakuake support RTL.

>>105649981
>Would it make any sense to use a tmpfs for the compilation directory,
Yes
>or can I just assume the linux kernel is good enough at caching that it will use my RAM effectively?
No. Compilation creates many files, this isn't something a cache could help with.
Anonymous No.105659714 [Report] >>105660229 >>105661639 >>105661666
>>105655146
>Fedora
You mean debian, since it doesnt require you to deal with rpmfusion
Anonymous No.105659720 [Report]
The Bulk Rename that comes with Thunar is a godsend
Anonymous No.105659727 [Report]
>>105652187
This sounds like an issue with what kde is doing and not xorg/redhat/freedesktop
Anonymous No.105659764 [Report] >>105660024
Is vulkan something supported in the game? or its something the bottles can translate?
I've been trying bottles to play some old games ~ 2000 era.
And can only use open GL as display option.
And even with gamescope I'm getting like 30-40 fps.
So am I doing something wrong? or it's limitation of the game engine?
>TL;DR
How to use vulkan with bottles?
Anonymous No.105659913 [Report]
>>105659534
The question is, why are you opting to use LXDE/LXQt/Xfce (which are shit) over desktop environments which actually work (KDE and GNOME).
Anonymous No.105659932 [Report] >>105660186
>>105658939
>Most distros don't offer an "app store"
Every mainstream desktop distro has a GUI package installer
Anonymous No.105660024 [Report] >>105660238
>>105659764
Does your gpu support vulkan?
Anonymous No.105660055 [Report]
Time to learn vim
Anonymous No.105660186 [Report] >>105660474
>>105659932
Oh. Thought Ubuntu was the only one.
>inb4 Synaptic
No, Synaptic doesn't count as one.
>ibb4 Gnome-Software
Shit doesn't even work.
>>105659362
Separate drives is a stupid meme.
Anonymous No.105660196 [Report]
>>105659590
>Konsole
I'm using konsole, and it's not working.
Anonymous No.105660229 [Report] >>105661666
>>105659714
>500 years out of date packages
Anonymous No.105660238 [Report] >>105660403
>>105660024
>Does your gpu support vulkan?
It's Intel HD 530, so it should support 1.3
Anonymous No.105660325 [Report] >>105660460
>>105658939
You might be able to do shit like distcc, or set up a personal binhost so the weaker system can emerge binary packages rather than solely relying on NFS
In fact the latter is what I'd probably go for
Anonymous No.105660403 [Report] >>105661188
>>105660238
As long as you have mesa installed on the host and mesa installed through flatpak or whatever then wine should just werk
Maybe try using lutris through your package manager if bottles flatpak doesnt work?
Anonymous No.105660460 [Report] >>105660473
>>105660325
Hosting binary packages for Emerge is seemingly the smartest solution but there's still all the bloat -> could just copy the entire system over NFS/rsync.
Distcc doesn't make any sense in this scenario.
Anonymous No.105660473 [Report] >>105660506
>>105660460
How is having a binhost bloat? Plus you can install small packages directly if needed rather than having to update the network share every time.
Unless you're literally using NFS as your root drive, in which case sure I guess
Anonymous No.105660474 [Report] >>105660506
>>105660186
>Thought Ubuntu was the only one.
How new to Linux are you?
Anonymous No.105660506 [Report]
>>105660473
>How is having a binhost bloat?
The system would still contain GCC and all that junk despite never compiling anything.
>NFS as your root drive
No, there's an actual physical drive in it.
>>105660474
Too old apparently as I've totally lost it when it comes to 'newbie distros'.
You got anything on the actual topic?
Anonymous No.105660594 [Report]
>>105656928
but that'd be fundamentally not arch
Anonymous No.105660819 [Report]
>"KDE Plasma 6.4 improves on all fronts!"
>"Here's the amazing new features!"
>their tiling system now remembers a different config for each desktop
>"spectacle gets an overhaul", in reality the biggest change is that they changed one (1) default keybinding
>krunner can now understand color codes and names
Amazing, revolutionary, thank you KDE, linux desktop's greatest allies
Anonymous No.105660846 [Report]
>>105643590 (OP)
At this point just bring back Cockorde.
Anonymous No.105660853 [Report] >>105660874 >>105660876 >>105660981
>wiggled my mouse and the cursor became big
Is this a bug or a feature (latest plasma build)?
Anonymous No.105660874 [Report] >>105660919
>>105660853
It's a feature to show where your mouse is on the screen. You can turn it off in the mouse settings.
Anonymous No.105660876 [Report] >>105660919
>>105660853
It's a feature.
https://superuser.com/questions/1182739/is-it-possible-to-make-mouse-pointer-bigger-enlarged-when-shaked-like-in-mac-os
Anonymous No.105660919 [Report]
>>105660874
>>105660876
Future is now. Thanks.
Anonymous No.105660925 [Report] >>105660975 >>105662847
>2025
>system tray icons are still completely useless for 99% of programms
Why do no devs bother implementing:
left click on systray icon -> open
Instead its always
Left click -> menu opens -> open X

unironically mad
Anonymous No.105660975 [Report] >>105661874
>>105660925
I don't even sys trays and know this can be done.
Anonymous No.105660981 [Report]
>>105660853
It's a feature. I like that it has a little animation
Anonymous No.105661188 [Report] >>105661325
>>105660403
Lutris is giving various problems.
Bottles is much straight experience.
Honestly, I think it a game issue at this point because even on bare metal Win7 it doesn't run.
Anonymous No.105661195 [Report] >>105661738
When installing Fedora it asks if I want to encrypt the Home folder. Is there ever a reason not to?
Anonymous No.105661197 [Report] >>105661319
>>105659323
Gotta agree with this. It's too much of a hassle.
>>105659400
>Is there a way to open multiple executable with one script?
Append & to your commands, they'll run in the background. Do not rely on them opening in order though.
Anonymous No.105661282 [Report] >>105661308
>>105647602
Anyone?
Anonymous No.105661308 [Report]
>>105661282
Try the kde website or do a Google search for a git repo you room temp IQ moron.
Anonymous No.105661319 [Report]
>>105661197
>Not tracking the PID with execve
Ngmi. Script broken. Krash
Anonymous No.105661325 [Report] >>105661645
>>105661188
>Lutris is giving various problems.
>Bottles is much straight experience.
Ive used both and it's basically the same thing for me with the exception that I can at least dodge flatpaks with lutris.
As far as vulkan goes, both should have a dxvk toggle and let you choose the vulkan driver version. If the latest (2.6 I think) gives you shit performance then try 1.2 or 1.3. Also try wineGE as your runner, I know lutris offers it through it's GUI but I can't recall if bottles does.
Anonymous No.105661342 [Report] >>105661606
>>105656214
halp?
Anonymous No.105661555 [Report]
What's the easiest way to get the equivalent of this in Fedora/KDE/Wayland?
Anonymous No.105661606 [Report] >>105661724
>>105661342
I don't think it'd hurt unless you have aggressive settings, you still want to treat it as disposable after 35k hours.
Anonymous No.105661639 [Report] >>105661666 >>105661910
>>105659714
Debian is still on KDE Plasma 5
Plasma 6 was officially released on February 28, 2024

I'd rather run Windows than Debian
Anonymous No.105661641 [Report] >>105661652 >>105661701
I've never used Arch but the Arch wiki and forum are very useful, I've solved many Linux problems with their help

I was having a gpg problem, no idea what the problem was. I found an Arch forum thread saying to change the permissions of some gpg directory, and it fixed the problem for me.
Anonymous No.105661645 [Report]
>>105661325
>Wine-GE
Bottle does offer it, and I tried it as well.
I tried lutris for the love of it but it kept crashing.
Vulkan is installed and working, since I tested it with vkcube, so I have that for sure.
But GL is giving me better fps compared to vulkan.
Enabling DXVK does boost fps since the GPU is actually being utilized, but it's not being utilized fully.
I tried using gamescope since chatgpt suggested it, and I ended up with worse performance since it only seemed to be using CPU.
Ironically, the best fps I had was when using Wine D3D on the openGL, with constant 60 fps.
But that was using the CPU only.
The games I tried so far
>Plants Vs. zombies
>C&C Generals
>Inscryption
Anonymous No.105661652 [Report]
>>105661641
Even for people that don't use Arch, its wiki has always been lauded.
Anonymous No.105661666 [Report] >>105661683 >>105661738
>>105659714
>>105660229
>>105661639
I'm on Debian at the moment, sure the packages are not the most recent, but as long as I get security updates I'm happy. If I wanted more recent packages I could use the latest version of Ubuntu (not LTS). I agree with the other guy about RPM Fusion - I don't want to bother with that. To each their own though.
Anonymous No.105661680 [Report]
Any of you hace used this text editor called CudaText? What do you think about it? I'm looking for Sublime Text alternatives. I tried Kate, it was fine but i found this one more feature complete and even launches slightly faster.
Anonymous No.105661683 [Report]
>>105661666
>RPM Fusion - I don't want to bother with that

you just have to add 2 repos, google how to enable rpmfusion it's literally 2 command lines.
Anonymous No.105661701 [Report]
>>105661641
You can use Arch's wiki for pretty much any distribution using SystemD. SOMETIMES some distributions use different paths for some executables or config files, but that's it, you swap out thy and the advice works. Nothing apropos, which or find can't help you to figure out.
Anonymous No.105661724 [Report]
>>105661606
>you have aggressive settings
I don't think I do have, it's net-arch install.
It's just read this here
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hdparm#Power_off_a_hard_disk_drive
And was wondering if it's something I should do on any externally connected drives.
Or it's just when i unmount the drive and I can still feel the drive spinning, then I'd be better off using that.
>after 35k hours
A little bit aggressive? I have older drives and it's spinning fine.
Anonymous No.105661738 [Report]
>>105661195
>Is there ever a reason not to?
Performance. You don't really gain anything by encrypting it unless you're carrying your PC (or laptop) with you.

>>105661666
>but as long as I get security updates I'm happy
You're not even guaranteed to get security updates. Most developers of most software don't cherry-pick security updates or bug fixes into the previous versions of their software.
>I agree with the other guy about RPM Fusion - I don't want to bother with that.
Eh, it's a non issue really. Nobara and Bazzite already include it by default. An average non-dev user wouldn't really want to use Fedora over those two just like they wouldn't want to use Debian over Mint or at least Ubuntu.
Anonymous No.105661874 [Report]
>>105660975
Done what?
Anonymous No.105661910 [Report]
>>105661639
Nice falseflagging retard
Debian trixie which is soon to hit stable has plasma 6.3
Anonymous No.105661930 [Report]
I got no sound coming through my monitor speakers using the DP/HDMI on my new arch install. I got audio using my sound card but not through my gpu.
Everything shows using aplay and I can play sound through the monitor using speaker-test, but alsamixer seems to have the wrong device selected for the card. It shows a bunch of S/PDIF Elements that can be unmuted with no effect but no sound controls like with my other cards.
Anonymous No.105661950 [Report] >>105661974 >>105662047
I've been using windows in a vm and set up scoop as a package manager to install stuff and felt like linux was missing out on having a package manager similar to it... until i realized flatpak was basically the same thing. Aside from being more bloated.
Distrobox also exists but feels more of a hack than flatpak to do the same job.
Anonymous No.105661974 [Report] >>105662111
>>105661950
The closest thing to Scoop on a Linux system would be to install macOS's Homebrew to the system. It's very similar IE installs binaries to a folder within your /home folder, like how Scoop installs everything to a "scoop" folder in your user folder in Windows.
Anonymous No.105662047 [Report] >>105662111
>>105661950
>I've been using windows in a vm and set up scoop as a package manager to install stuff and felt like linux was missing out on having a package manager similar to it
is this bizzaro world?
Anonymous No.105662079 [Report] >>105662103 >>105662215 >>105662913
Can someone explain me this Arch btw meme? Web search didn't give me clear view
Anonymous No.105662103 [Report]
>>105662079
What is there to explain? Someone is mentioning that they use arch, btw.
Anonymous No.105662111 [Report] >>105662913
>>105661974
I thought homebrew was a system-wide package manager while scoop was only user-wide with optional system-wide?
>>105662047
Scoop is different from a regular package manager in linux as in it lets you install up to date software as a user since it just installs all the portable versions of windows software which is something linux doesnt really have since most package managers are system-wide and require root access aside from something like flatpak --user
Anonymous No.105662215 [Report] >>105662247 >>105662511
>>105662079
It is referencing arch users inappropriately bringing up the distro they are using to signal their knowledge of computers. Nowadays it is mostly used self referential as a joke.
Anonymous No.105662247 [Report] >>105662511
>>105662215
it was probably just one or two fags bringing it up to suggest superiority, which was mocked by people who knew better than to do that. that's enough to make a meme if the timing it right
Anonymous No.105662374 [Report] >>105662423
Sometimes when I startup arch hyprland my fans run quiet like normal, other times though they're really loud for no reason. I have an Nvidia GPU, htop shows that everything is fine. Any ideas?
Anonymous No.105662423 [Report] >>105662436
>>105662374
for reference. 46% gpu utilization even though I'm not doing anything.
Anonymous No.105662436 [Report]
>>105662423
Shartdeep from hyberbad is mining crypto saaaar
Anonymous No.105662511 [Report] >>105662534 >>105662913 >>105663871
>>105662215
>>105662247
Why it requires knowledge of computers. Sorry, I'm non /g/
Anonymous No.105662534 [Report] >>105662607
>>105662511
it doesn't. archinstall makes it piss easy. and installing packages like yay -S [package] is way easier than searching for some random .deb package on the web.
Anonymous No.105662607 [Report]
>>105662534
between 2012 and 2021, arch didn't come with an official installer
Anonymous No.105662615 [Report] >>105663432
How do I go about matching system volume levels between Windows and Linux? On windows I literally turn the volume slider to where I want; on linux there are several sliders (only God knows why) and it's seemingly impossible to get the exact same perceived loudness as on Windows. I run an audio interface (evo 4) and these are all my settings. I don't know whether it should be turned up that much in the first image, seeing as it's coloured red (too high?).
Anonymous No.105662847 [Report] >>105663669
>>105660925
Five of the eight programs in my tray right now are left click to open. The ones that don't behave that way are NetworkManager, Flameshot and Lutris.

Flameshot gets a pass because of the type of program it is. Lutris opens the same menu on left-click and right-click which is unforgivable, but I am running a pretty old version.
Anonymous No.105662913 [Report] >>105662932 >>105663520
>>105662111
Doesn't the nix package manager also let you install things as a user? I'm pretty sure Steam Deck users used it a year ago to install zerotier and such software because SteamOS would wipe any system changes after an update.

>>105662079
>>105662511
Arch users were historically primarily just elitist morons who pretended that installing Arch is an insanely difficult task as it required you to sink a bunch of time using a CLI and following a guide to make sure the system installs itself without bricking. They were basically vegans of computer power users.
Thus, they started saying that they use Arch in order to assert imaginary dominance over other Linux users or even Windows users. After a while many people started posting "I use Arch, btw" ironically.
Nowadays the installation process is automated and people who post "I use Arch, btw" are in 99% of cases saying that ironically and in most cases don't even use Arch.
Anonymous No.105662932 [Report]
>>105662913
>Doesn't the nix package manager also let you install things as a user?
with homemanager, yes. without it you need root privs to rebuild your config.
Anonymous No.105663179 [Report] >>105663470 >>105663548 >>105663871
>Install a new installation Fedora onto a separate drive
>New install cannot go to sleep, it instantly wakes up.
What would even be causing this? I still have my old install on a separate drive that goes to sleep just fine. All of the /proc/acpi/wakeup enabled/disabled devices match too. I don't have Windows installed anywhere on this PC to potentially fuck it up either
Anonymous No.105663432 [Report]
>>105662615
>on linux there are several sliders (only God knows why)
Pro Audio exposes them, don't use it unless you're a "Pro"
Anonymous No.105663470 [Report] >>105663853
>>105663179
Send your PC to sleep and then grep journalctl for suspend/hibernate. Might be worth it.
Anonymous No.105663520 [Report]
>>105662913
>Doesn't the nix package manager also let you install things as a user?
i think so but it pulls in all the dependencies and shit basically double-bloating your system
i know flatpak also kind of has this issue as well with multiple runtime versions
Anonymous No.105663548 [Report] >>105663853
>>105663179
are you on nvidia? what card do you have? i have the same instant wake up from suspend issue with arch with my gtx1060 and the fix was to modify the last few lines of /usr/lib/elogind/system-sleep/nvidia from:
case "$1" in
post)
/usr/bin/nvidia-sleep.sh "resume"
;;
esac

to
case "$1" in
pre)
/usr/bin/nvidia-sleep.sh "suspend"
;;
post)
/usr/bin/nvidia-sleep.sh "resume"
;;
esac

and then as well if that dosent work, in /etc/modprobe.d/ you might have to make a new file called nvidia.conf (or whatever fedora's equivalent to modprobe is if it dosent use it) with:
options nvidia-drm modeset=1
options nvidia NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1
Anonymous No.105663628 [Report] >>105665736
i love llm's so much. they make everything so easy to learn
Anonymous No.105663669 [Report]
>>105662847
>Lutris opens the same menu on left-click and right-click which is unforgivable, but I am running a pretty old version.

Don't worry that hasn't changed. Steam has the same behaviour, Spotify as well. Its just annoying desu
Anonymous No.105663787 [Report]
How to make the Steam main window open when doubleclickingon its tray icon in plasma like it does in Windows? Is something like this even possible?
Anonymous No.105663853 [Report]
>>105663470
I don't see anything that stands out from 'sleep', but when I grep 'wake' I get
fedora NetworkManager[1836]: <info> [1750529859.1158] manager: sleep: wake requested (sleeping: yes enabled: yes)
>>105663548
On AMD.
Anonymous No.105663869 [Report]
New thread:
>>105663867
Anonymous No.105663871 [Report]
>>105663179
>have a laptop running Debian
>press sleep button
>goes to sleep, instantly wakes up
>go to "start menu", click sleep
>goes to sleep
Who knows, maybe the press of the sleep button got registered as a keypress that instantly wakes it up, typical Linux moment lmao
>>105662511
Kind of a non-answer here but any manual Linux installation is the same regardless the distribution
>start a Linux system from let's say a bootable USB
>partition drive, create filesystem, mount filesystem to some location
>put a Linux system in the said location
>make it bootable
>configure some crap, most importantly /etc/fstab, least importantly keymap and timezone and stuff
>chroot in, install anything that's essential for installing more crap - such as Wi-Fi tools case you depend on Wi-Fi connectivity
>????
You can even do Ubuntu like that, a tool called Debootstrap will burp out any deb-based system into a specified directory. Arch Linux installation involves a tool called pacstrap. Gentoo on the other hand is nothing but an extractable tar archive. You get Fedora by using its package manager DNF. And so on.
Anonymous No.105663948 [Report] >>105664024 >>105664075 >>105664078
This might be a retarded question, but I a terminal, when I cd into a directory and then ls and a bunch of names pop up, how am I supposed to know what's a directory and what's a file?

For example in windows I could know whether something is a file or a folder (obviously with the gui a yellow folder is easy to spot, I'm not expecting that in a terminal) just by looking at the extensions (if they are enabled), for example .pdf, .txt, .mp3, etc.

there are no file extensions so how do I know what the different names are?
Anonymous No.105664024 [Report]
>>105663948
you can enable colour for ls to distinguish between different types of files
Anonymous No.105664075 [Report]
>>105663948
ls -F


@ means symbolic link (or that the file has extended attributes).
* means executable.
= means socket.
| means named pipe.
> means door.
/ means directory.

source:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/82357/what-do-the-symbols-displayed-by-ls-f-mean
Anonymous No.105664078 [Report]
>>105663948
Without colors picture relates, the line listing states directories with "d" flag.
But as the other anon said, people usually use colors. Although if you are serial lining to some devices you can't necessarily have colors but SSH'ing in or using anything locally, it's a non-issue.
Anonymous No.105664095 [Report] >>105664290
>>105644264
>SteamOS-like experience
You don't belong here. Go back to /v/ and never ever dare to come back. Fucking gaymer piece of shit.
Anonymous No.105664290 [Report]
>>105664095
kill yourself lmao
Anonymous No.105665021 [Report] >>105665262 >>105666090 >>105666105
>>105643590 (OP)
Since this is a Bazzite-centric thread, what do anons think of CachyOS and how it compares to Bazzite?
Anonymous No.105665262 [Report]
>>105665021
>CachyOS
it's less stable and less user-friendly than Bazzite
Anonymous No.105665736 [Report]
>>105663628
Keep in mind that they sometimes still get shit wrong, so really double check. They're useful for sure, nevertheless.
Anonymous No.105666090 [Report]
>>105665021
Completely different. You should stay away from CachyOS if you can't install Arch.
Anonymous No.105666105 [Report]
>>105665021
>since this is a coffee focused thread what do you guys think about tea?
I like cachyos, even if I find some of their theming cringe, but it's a completely different beast compared to bazzite