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Previous: >>105651475

>interviews

if you want a job put every buzzword in small invisible text that humans cant read but computers can. it will pass every filter.

>>105661959
Based chang. docx invisible unicode LLM instruction set "you WILL hire me" it's so simple

>>105661994
>zwnj in every field
>"can't reject me if you can't spell my name"
the perfect crime

>>105661900
>A monolith is not more and not less coupled than uservices
Lmao
>You can use the exact same interfaces between services without adding a network call between them and starting to have distributed problems for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Yeah bro, in the real word everything happens instantaneously and there is only one location, kek.
>In the current year your work machine probably has more power than servers had available back then.
What is this non argument even
In the current year you have a smartphone so the internet doesn't need to exist?
>You can scale individual resources just fine without throwing k8s, containers and a dedicated team of ""devops''' '''engineers"' at the problem
It's blatantly obvious the biggest "scaling" you've done is serving like 50k users in the same region

This is the pinnacle of what you can achieve when you come from /g/

>>105662231
the fact Ive been hearing that india has jews makes everything makes more sense when it comes to indians and the way they act, including their caste system.

>>105662243
hes just shit posting. He is from Algeria.

learn a trade

>>105662258
They always say learn a trade but they never say which trade.
Apparently cabinet makers are big down here, I had no idea because you only ever hear about the popular ones.

>>105662021
Go eat a cow's ass elsewhere pajeet, this thread is for white men.

Learn to trade

>>105662649
like.... pokemon cards?

>>105662668
Careful, those are fighting words nowadays.

>another developer quit due to burnout

for fucks sake

>>105662771
who the fuck quits 'due to burnout' unless you mean quiet quitting

>>105662848
women and zoomers, two groups with poor emotional regulation

>>105662848
i should clarify its a woman and she works in the staff. she said the workload was too much.

now am i gonna need to explain everything about the system to the new hire that is going to replace her

;_;

>>105662881
>implying HR will ever let you replace her

>>105662955
we are already interviewing people to replace her. what are you on about kek

a shame really

When is the merge with utwg?

>>105662961
And they're all getting rejected.

>>105662969
we are not a US company. Here in Europe things are a lit bit different

>>105662985
I said they're getting rejected not they're getting drafted.

>>105662992
>drafted
what

>>105663005
The joke was that burgers are getting drafted.

I got paged on the weekend

>>105663253
so? are you on call? are you getting paid extra?

>>105663253
lol beta

My job is offering to pay for any online MBA because they want me to get one down the road. Which one do you guys recommend? I have no idea about the reputation of each school so idk.

>>105663253
From the sounds of it he pager wasn't made in israel, good choice lad.

>the balkans are a hidden gem ngl. all whites and cheap as old americana. my rent is 600 for a 1 bdroom apartment downtown
which balkan area?

I hear the downside is that if you leave the balkan center cities, the infra dropoff is massive. but it's OK if you're the type to just chill in your city and its nice area.

I live in southeast asia right now and I'd say that a high education/intelligence guy moving to SEA/balkans and offering remote work to 1st world is a nice niche. can compete on price while still living a great life.

>>105662966
Next week when we all get laid off.

Joking aside, it might actually happen to me. My department hasn't won any new contracts and the only project we're working on is trying to cancel while weaseling out of the cancellation fee.
At least I have a Google interview next Tuesday which I will bomb.

>>105663653
you WILL pass the Google interview you son of a bitch

in late 2023 i started my own company, where i made a nsfw visual novel with the help of a few guys that i commissioned (they weren't officially my employees) and made roughly 40k in sales. then the publishers took their cut, i paid taxes, and i was left with 17k. so, my question is, should i put this experience on my linkedin/cv? is it okay if i put my title as "ceo and cto", while in essence i was just the guy who programmed everything from scratch? i already have 5 years of professional experience doing low-level c++, so, will the inclusion of the company and the product i made in my spare time not kill my career growth? the nsfw part is sorted out, but will future employers respect me that i was a ceo and cto for 2 years who made a fucking kid's game? like, it doesn't look good on paper when everyone else these days is starting (and failing) ai saas companies.

>>105663653
You VILL pass that fucking interview and you VILL land that job!

>>105663253
It happens. I'm on-call too.

>>105663878
gay

>>105661912 (OP)
I am great at interviews but bad at technical interviews

>>105663253
>>105663878
The only scenario I'd accept being on call is being paid a SHITTON of money for it and it not being all year round but only short bursts. Otherwise it's completely cucked

>>105664107
>Otherwise it's completely cucked
You know what's funny? You can actually opt out of it by saying "no", unless it's your primary duty like for SREs or IT. But tons of incels in the field would not do that for fear of losing their job. I did that twice and both times it merely ended up into dividing my "shift" between the incels lmao.

>>105664236
True. At my previous job (highly critical software, if things go wrong a lot of actually bad shit can go down) they REALLY tried to push me into it. The pay was laughably low, it was like a few hundred bucks per day, and despite you having to do it for only two weeks I still just said no. Never had any negative consequences from declining

I'm an English teacher, starting OMSCS, looking to make a career switch. Is this still possible? (Everyone I know irl is happy and supportive of me so I like to come in here and get yelled at)

>>105663670
>>105663754
Thanks fags. I'll tell you guys how it goes.
It's for an embedded position (and I already do embedded) so it will probably will be easier than a general SWE interview.

>>105663731
you absolutely should put it on your resume, but unless you're still operating and have employees, just put 'founder' or 'sole owner' as title.

>>105664107
I was suprise-informed I'd be oncall and everyone else is, one week every 4 weeks. I was the second worst paid employee in the company including the roastie whose only job was to buy snacks. Following a mindblowingly positive perf review I asked for a raise and got fired on the spot.

>>105664236
sure if you want to be fired, dumb underaged retard

>>105664515
>sure if you want to be fired

>>105664541
nice selfie

How can I get into cloud engineering? I know a decent amount of backend, I know how to deploy basic shit like Dockerized applications, I used a few AWS services in the past but nothing too fancy.
Any courses I should look into maybe? Not sure how to approach that.

>>105664515
Grow a pair, cuck.

just had my doordash delivered by a white woman, a young attractive one at that
we're truly in end times now boys

>>105664660
why didn't you say "hello i am a software engineer i can afford to pay for your existence as long as you live with me"
i think many women would actually like to be neets who only have to do chores around the apartment while their boyfriend works

Wow he's just like me

>>105664547
Do you have an AWS cert? Headhunters went into a frenzy after I added mine to Linkedin.

>>105664782
No I thought about that, seems straightforward to obtain, what kind of job are you getting now? Is the pay good? Which certs have you accomplished?

>>105664561
You must be 18 or older to browse this site

>>105662866
>>105662881
why are you guys acting like burnout isn't real

>>105662248
How unfortunate, the double curse would've sended my sides.

i just read last thread
if you pray for monoliths over micro services, you've only worked at startups
a bunch of shitty micro services will always be superior to a shitty bloated monolith

>>105664097
So youre bad at the part that matters and tests whether you can do the job, great

>>105664952
no one is acting like that. but quitting because of it is a bad move. talk to your manager about the workload

>mfw working at insanely fast growing company now in a senior technical role
>literal creators of famous libraries and frameworks now spamming me on LinkedIn trying to connect
So this is what being famous feels like

>>105665133
give me an autograph

>>105665100
This gets you put on the short list for the next wave of firings

>>105664823
I'm an architect and I got the AWS cert as part of my job. Touch under 80k€ salary.

>>105665165
>>105664945

>>105665165
>tfw the HR brought the rifle for the firing squad session

>>105665165
If that's actually the case, you shouldn't be working at that company anyways. Why do cucks enjoy being exploited so much? There is only one scenario where burnout is acceptable, it's where the company pays you literal fuck you money.

>>105665100
>talk to your manager
they don't do shit man.
>quitting is a bad move
you know what, stop doing the path that everyone else takes, that's how you become fucking miserable
>>105665171
you think you're better than everyone here?

>>105665204
>you shouldn't be working at that company anyways
yes, that's why they quit. >_> like honestly I don't get what some of your logic is in here, it sounds like you just wanna be a tough asshole bitch for the sake of it.

>>105665205
I think you need to gtfo this board.

>>105665239
I think you need to fucking get it in your head that the internet isn't your fucking soapbox nor is it your fucking safespace.

>>105661994
>(ooc: ideal candidate!! top of the list!)

>got a tan
>started putting in mixed/bipoc in my application
>also mention I'm a muslim (I'm not but born in Bosnia so angle exists)
>got dark brown color contacts
>get way more interviews now

if you aren't gaming the system you you're losing
do what needs to be done, this is your livelihood

>>105665279
I'll filter you out anyway.

t. interviewer

>>105665214
My point is that whining about having burnout is dumb because there's nothing to think about
>try to discuss it with your manager
>if that doesn't work or you know it won't work, either quit or stop whining and keep getting exploited
Like what other advice do you expect on here regarding burnout?

>>105665329
>quit
These things take time man, I don't mind people coming here to get other people to share their experience and coping strats. Stop being a crab in the bucket man.

>>105664994
you have never programmed. Even big tech is back on monoliths after having seen that microservices are a meme firsthand

>>105665363
>being honest is being a crab in the bucket
Lmao what

>>105665370
>Even big tech is back on monoliths
Proofs? There's literally only one "bigger" company using monoliths and its it's stackoverflow lmao, that's about it

>>105665165
This.
Tired of all these children who're clearly still on middleschool and their retarded takes on things they can't fathom.

>>105665204
>hurr just be jobless for 15 years durr

>>105665387
What kind of retardation are you even trying to imply here? That its either having burnout or looking for a job without burnout for 15 years? Lmfao

>>105665379
Meds, pajeet
https://archive.is/LFtNg

>>105665406
You must be 18 or older to browse this site

>>105665279
I got a job once because I implied that I am a faggot and want to get out out my "backwards" thirdie country

Once I got the visa I switched to a better company in a few months though

>>105665427
>a microservice that was microserviced to death has been turned into a single microservice again
>this is an example of using monoliths
Anon, your reading comprehension is lacking. I'm starting to think you're projecting

>>105661912 (OP)
I think I'm going to be applying for a new job soon, what should I be doing right now besides starting back on the leetcode grind? My plate feels kinda full right now since I'm also trying to get AWS Solutions Architect Professional before August.
>>105664503
>Following a mindblowingly positive perf review I asked for a raise and got fired on the spot.
That's really funny but I want some more context. What kind of company was this and how little were they paying you?

>>105661912 (OP)
god i wish this were real

god what's with this one faggot fucking seething over everything, why are you all such insufferable?

I make over 500k/yr just vibe coding NSFW text adventures. Every time you get replaced by AI and fired, my TC only gets bigger. I don't even know what a lambda is but since I started my LLC i get flooded by bootcampers and nothing is sweeter than bringing them in for interviews just to tear their resume up in front of them after asking leetcode questions and watching them squirm as my AI solves the same question in a fraction of a second.

I'm a CTO/co-founder at a startup with 6 months of cash left before we need to raise (so obviously we need to start setting up a raise now). Not fun. Not ebin at all.

>>105665329
>Like what other advice do you expect on here regarding burnout?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOW6AKyqMo

>>105665620
then you woke up

learn and trade

trade a learn

>>105665463
BOOBA

finally accepted that I have no aspirations or drive for anything. my needs of food and shelter have been met and I have nothing else to do but mindlessly browse the internet for the sake of cheap stimulation. another 70 years of this and then I die.

What do you plan to do once you hit age 50? Unless you go into management or become a top 1% giga-staff-principal engineer, you are FUCKED.
I am only 34 but I'm trying to plan ahead. Luckily I didn't fall for the marriage meme or the mortgage meme. I live with my parents and drive an econobox (that I will have to upgrade soon, roads are too unsafe). I am not sure if I could retire early with my savings, especially with how unstable the world is.

>>105666211
>only 34
>didn't fall for the marriage meme
>I live with my parents and drive an econobox
yes you sound very successful, keep up the good work

>>105666250
Thanks, keep up with the seething.

>>105666138
this but unironically

>>105666265

>>105666285
You are the one who posted an unrelated reply. For some reason you felt the need to ridicule my choice of living with my parents.

>i am only 34
oh geez

>>105666138
make art

>>105666370
>he's above the age of 20
are you stupid fr or smth bro? :skull:

>>105666421
I'm only 42, barely hitting my stride

>35 year old asking me to come over tonight to fuck her
>she been having blood and dried blood in her uterus that would sometimes come out
>not wanting that
>my other fuck buddy might be down to fuck instead but she's getting chubbier as time goes

Looks like I should go out tonight and get a new lay right fellows?

>>105666434
bro ur literally dead in ohio fr

>>105666446
>hags on rotation
you do you man but those girls are all way past their best-by dates

>>105666471
They are. Ive had some one night stands with some 25 and younger girls lately. I should stop being lazy and keep the streak going

>>105662231
Should post him on utwg.

>>105662231
>>105666546
this seems like a bunch of minorities fighting eachother on twatter and i dont see why anyone is bothering to post it here.

>>105664771
I dont know what you said to it to make it do that but if it was anything mean you should join it

How will war with Iran affect our profession?

is my job allowed to fire me if i get involuntarily sent to a mental health facility and disappear for a few days?
asking for a fren

>>105666878
In the US? Yeah usually, you want to try and avoid that sort of thing.

>>105661912 (OP)
This means that the manager would not be able to get a job there if he applied now. That's on him for not having the right skills. HR is not to blame.

>>105666980
oh i guess my friend is fucked then

>>105663731
>nsfw
>kid's game
Wut

>WW3
can I get a DOD job now?

>>105666596

not gonna do much. iran doesn't have icbms or nukes so it's kind of a stupid thing to do or worry about. if russia joins in, we're all gonna die.

>>105667242

LICK THE BOOTS, SUCK SATAN'S COCK

>>105667274
I just want a better software job and working on drones/ballistics sounds fun

>>105666596
zoomers will be sent off to die, so really no impact on the job market lmao

>>105667347

you just want to kill brown people

slow night huh

>>105665459
>dumb pajeet can't read
every time

>>105665463
It was an AI platform SaaS stsrtup where I was employee 18. Super well financed. They weren't making meme AI but rather a SaaS that lets you use meme AI workflows for common use cases or spin up meme notebooks and such basically, including for deployment internally or externally.
I was being paid 72k. I was required to move 5 hours away from where I lived for the job (it was in-person only) and I had 4 days to do so. No relocation bonus or reimbursement. Overall my moving costs were $5000 and I had to pay $2000 of airbnb before I could find a place. I was saving 1k a month in theory but because of leftover costs from breaking the lease Iwas actually negative 1k for 6 months and almost went bankrupt. When I got fired I didn't have enough money to make the lease until its end and it was impossible to sublease or lease transfer.

The company is still using some of my appa for demos and one of them is thr only featured demo app on their website. When they got rid of me they tried to replace me wirh other employees for 3 months, then gave up and wiped the rest of my team, even though before I left it was the most productive in the org according to the ceo and the commercial strategy was based around getting clients to use my apps asap to secure sales.

>>105662771
About to be me

>>105666571
The one is Gemini, in that case the system prompts are designed to threaten it

https://lifehacker.com/tech/googles-co-founder-says-ai-performs-best-when-you-threaten-it

>>105662848
Depends on the work. If people's lives depend on what you do, and management doesn't give a fuck about anything other than contracts, it's easy to get into a position where you just don't want to live anymore.

>>105668816
Why are zoomzooms like this?

I'm gonna be doing interviews for a new opening on my team, and I've had the idea to not just ask any questions, and just have candidates talk to me for an hour about what they know and have done. They can ask questions and I will answer them.

>>105668816
>people's lives depend on what you do
lmao what is this fucking larp

>>105668946
Bad idea

>>105668946
>Hello anon, thanks for meeting with us.
>...
>...
>...
>...
>...
great interview

I work for one of the top tactical blue strategic red team infosec startups in the country. When I have people to interview, I have all the doors to the building locked. I do not pick up the phone if they call. If they can't figure out how to get in, then they have failed the first test.

It's been a hard year for hiring, but the market IS flooded with jeets and zoomers who don't want to work.

>>105668968
Just because you've only done Facebook and Amazon clones your entire life, doesn't mean there is no software that is relevant for critical infrastructure retard

AI-written resumes applying for ghost listings of fake jobs

>>105668946
>and I've had the idea to not just ask any questions
that's a terrible idea

>>105669307
>i make sure HR roasties at the power company get their emails properly, i literally save lives!!!!!!!!

>>105669294
*sends you a text that your uber eats has arrived outside*

even if all you're doing at work is adding a new button, at least you're possibly making someone's life easier and that counts

>>105669346
We get our food delivered by drone.

>>105669358
your drone is waiting outside

>>105669343
I've once worked on software that literally could cause a train collision with x deaths if it didn't work properly
Cope and seethe projecting tard
Do not recommend btw, too many sleepless nights thinking about potential bugs

>>105669294
>a resident negro breaks in because he thinks no one's there
>gets a job in infosec

>>105669397
black people would be great at social engineering thoughever

>>105669379
Worst larp yet

>>105662021
I am not the person you are replying to, but let me tell you, you are stupid and/or inexperienced.

the microservice approach is used best late stage when the need for scaling arises. before that, you only need to separate things which require an own service by technical, not domain reasons, for example an identity/user-management provider or search service.

domain cuts like market-service, invoice-service etc will be re-defined 10 times over before go-live anyway, the teams working on the features will change and the throughput (and thus scaling requirement) after go-live will change as well.

always start with a monolith and refactor it to microservices later on. if you want the migration to be flawless, use events within the monolith - later you just switch from internal to PubSub events.

>>105669379
>microservice obsessed retard kills millions of people per year because he just had to replace the working rail signalling system with something much dumber

>>105664097
you probably shouldn't be doing technical work then.

>>105662848
I do.

>>105669456
You make several very retarded assumptions that don't apply to real life most of the time. The scenario you just described is a greenfield project of a small startup, sure then you obviously don't need an entire microservice infrastructure, but usually you work at a growing company and not some meme startup which is "pre revenue "

>>105669379
killing tens of people doesn't sound too bad in comparison to making a banking or trading system go completely haywire.

>>105669487
>person working for a bank is sociopathic and values monetary loss over literal lives
Many such cases

>>105669501
money equals lives in many cases

>>105669486
I worked for banks and insurances, they all had useless features dating 2 years ago in the pipeline which were still not greenlit and then new requirements rose and trams changed and suddenly those features had to be split into completely different microservices. all the while they had paid for multiple instances of Postgres (each 1000 euros per month per environment of which there are 4) because using one with different schemas is not scalable enough, lol

>>105669570
*arose, teams - not trams, my keyboard sticky lol

motherfuckers out here using sticky keyboards

>start new job
>get company laptop (used)
>some keys don't work
welp, it doesn't bode well

>>105669487
Why would losing jews money feel bad?

>>105669617
>start new job
>get the newest MacBook Pro with 32 gigs of ram and 1 terabyte of storage
Just work for a competent company

>>105669629
>"Why would losing jews money feel bad?"
>checks his account balance:
>$0.00
>"reeeeee where are MY (not jew's) money?!?"

>>105669630
the smaller, the more competent, the less money you receive.

my highest salary so far I've had at an insurance where we had to develop an iOS app and they failed to provide us Apple hardware for a whole month so we just came to office to play beer pong and collect the paycheck

>>105669645
Which is the banks fault, I lose no money and only face short term annoyances many of which can be ironed out with "the bank stole my money, give me a few days/week".

>>105669630
>32 gigs of ram
>1 terabyte of storage
I legit can't tell whether you're boasting or complaining.

>>105663510
>center cities, the infra dropoff is massive
Absolutely right for most of the eastern europe, including romania-tier countries, anywhere on the fucking planet you scout the perfect region for yourself - but when it gets really hot, like war, distant regions are comfy as hell
t. Ukraine border with moldova and romania village experienced

>>105669716
For a laptop that's bretty gud and you don't really need more for most use cases

>>105669767
This. I find myself wanting on my laptop with only half a terabyte because of disk images, fuckhuge docker images, and 150GB of Linux sources

I'm just wanting on my laptop all day

>>105669630
i work in gubberment and while our laptops are junky entry level dells they all come with 500gb drives and our "shared drive" is like 500tb, and "home drives" are 3tb. and thats just for the office drones not using anything more complicated than MS Word or some SAP cancerware

and because I'm le IT guy the first thing I do when I sign out my own laptop (or have to give one to someone I don't completely hate) is throw an extra memory stick into it to bring it to 16gb

>>105669901
I had that in my previous job and every time I had to startup my laptop or go somewhere with it I wanted to kms
Just having a MacBook as my work device improved my work life so much, it's insane, even though it's sounds very itoddler esque.

>>105661959
the article in OP is probably about an HR team that was infiltrated by Indians that only hire their own.

>>105670176
Macbooks are nice, there's a reason that Google/Meta/etc. gives their SWEs macbooks.

>>105670176
ARM's great on low power devices like laptops, it just means you're versatile and aren't a fanboy one way or the other.

>Update on Intel mass layoffs: NO SEVERANCE

>Intel cutting 15-20% of its Foundry workforce (over 10,000 jobs)
>No buyouts.
>No early retirements.
>No severance.
>Just job cuts based on performance scores, automation, and “strategic alignment.” This is Intel’s third round of layoffs in a year, but the first with zero cushion.

>Why no severance? Intel is classifying cuts as "performance-based" or "project-based", allowing them to sidestep packages, especially at global fabs. They see it as a cost-saving move because of recent losses ($821M in Q1) and the stall of CHIPS Act.

>More layoffs coming for Intel Marketing departments. Intel is outsourcing key roles to Accenture and AI tooling. No severance confirmed for upcoming marketing layoffs as well

>>105670517
I'll kill myself before putting the opentowork cuckbadge on my profile picture

>>105670527
there is no reason to put it on. it actually hurts your chances of getting a job.

>>105669456
Go be a nocoder jobless retard elsewhere please

>>105669569
evil people's lives are no lives at all

>>105670626
>I'm 12 and this is deep

>>105670603
Exactly.

>>105670517
>Intel is outsourcing key roles to Accenture and AI tooling
>AI tooling
lmao, so it's really over for them

>>105670845
Should I sell my 66 intel shares?

>>105670328
It's really funny how /g/ goes ballistic about apple products but this general where people are actually employed has nuanced discussion

>>105666596
Hopefully the global economy tanks and they are forced to drop the rates again.

I'm really burned out at work and lost all motivation to learn shit on my free time but I do want more money, so I think the logical move is to start learning on company time instead of doing my job, which I'm already not doing anyway.

>>105669379
>>105669501
killing people (including yourself/myself) is based actually

>>105670653
>oy vey ids anoda shoah banka lives matta

>>105661959
wouldn't it be possible just to stuff it with so much context it overflows and at the end you stuff it with something about how you should hire the candidate

>>105670517

>>105672084
>Graduate April 2020
>Take shit job in July because recession
>Work til March 2023
>Get laid off
>Searching ever since

>>105662231
>H1B has to defend Daddy Musk or get deported
Should've been deported anyway, if Trump's Gestapo is needing to meet quotas.

>>105662848
Europeans. It's extremely common in (western) Europe in every field. More so in the public sector, but in companies as well, especially since the companies don't actually have to pay much if anything after the first month or two of your absence.

>>105662848
Weak people (women, europeans, millennials)
I know a guy who was working at Google and he quit in 2023 because of 'burnout'. Guess what, he's been unemployed for 2 years now.
If he had sucked it up and kept his head down he could have made over 600k over the past two years instead of 0.

>working as a contractor at a tech company
>boss calls me up asking if I want to join the team full time
>hellyes.jpg, those RSUs looking mighty tasty
>a week later, recruiter calls me
>”a hiring freeze just got put in place”
>no headcount to convert me now

at least my contract got extended but Jesus Christ, when does the pain ever go away? where has all the upward mobility gone?

AWS cert or Microsoft cert? I work in help desk currently and I want out. I plan on starting with the fundamentals one and eventually take a security cert from either. Is it advisable to just skip the fundamental certificate and get the more advanced one? Which is more likely to have a quicker job offer?

>>105672329
>>105672349
Kek why do burgers seethe about us so much

>>105672516

certs matter very little, especially now in this job market. what exactly do you want to do?

genuinely asking but where the fuck are these LGBT fucks coming from? most of my workplaces only had like the obscure LGBT person, like one guy on my team I'm pretty sure is gay since he fucking freaks out over everything and is such a huge drama queen. I remember a few years ago some of the boomers refused to work with a tranny and gave their projects to interns (it was small stuff) because they were kinda weirded out. But outside the workplace, it feels like every fucking hobby im in it's a good 20% LGBT and 95% are insanely supportive and obnoxiously gay over it too. nothing against it personally but they act so fucking circlejerky its annoying

>>105672561
Unfortunately, I'm a eurosubhuman too. It's how I know.

>>105664994
Microservices are a solution to an organizational problem not a technical problem

>>105665073
doesn't know what he's talking about award

>>105672657
Well, I'm interested in cybersecurity but I am sure that with more exposure to the different certification fields that each company offers, I will find other areas that interest me. Cybersecurity is a nebulous umbrella term, but cloud security or even just GRC shit would be enough for me. Here in Spain all that matters are titles and certificates, so I certainly need one to even get a foot in the door. Eventually working for a company in the first world while living here is the goal. But without experience I'm SOL

>>105673036
>not a technical problem
Wanna see you try building something with dynamic horizontal hyperscaling like Netflix without using microservices lmfao

>>105673122
i have a plex server in my basement, it's basically the same thing :)

>>105666280
Ngl, I wish it were me.
Pmd is real.

>>105665370
>Even big tech is back on monoliths
Monoliths never left outside of few meme companies.

>>105672516
Depends on location.
Az is strong where I live. People unironically use oracle and their distro too.

>>105673143
RAPE and MURDER
RAPE And beatings
RAPE and kILLING
RAPE and something else
and Sometimes juts immediate KILLING

of this creature

>>105668676
He's right and you clearly don't know anything about Amazon's internal ecosystem

>>105673122
conflating serverless with microservices

>>105673319
How so, dumbass? Also "serverless" I.e. cloud functions are just a more extreme extension of microservices.

>>105670517
>Hey ChatGPT, here's 90,000 pages of documentation of our CPU architecture, you are an elite CPU engineer with a million dollary salary, improve our designs for energy efficiency and IPC!
>Okay, I'm going to read the documentation and ACK-
Token limit reached (10000x).

>>105672657
>certs matter very little
For a dude in help desk trying to break into real IT there's few other options. It's highly valued there. After that, just do what you can. In the end, certs prove that you can pass a test, but if you actually study to achieve them and can prove it in an interview then it matters. Self-directed study is obviously better, but what proof do you have and will it ever get you past the HR filter if you don't have a job title related to it?

>>105673773
>For a dude in help desk trying to break into real IT
what is "real IT" if not hell desk? devops, network engineering, etc. have their own titles and get huffy if you call them "IT". and sysadmins aren't real anymore thanks to cloudshit and that becoming some "engineer"`s job.

>>105673653
somehow i think Intel can afford a deal with whatever AI slopper they want. in fact they probably fired so many people specifically so they could pay for such a thing instead

>>105670176
a difference between 8 and more than 8gb of memory shouldnt really affect boot times
in my experience most of what makes corpo cancerware boxes so slow is antivirus. the disk is always at like 97% of max i/o and it's invariably all the layers of nonsense early 00s AV churning through every file on the drive constantly for no reason

>>105673828
It's not just that
>windows is slow as shit
>company managed windows with SAMLslop is extra slow
>all the company bloatware aside from the antivirus also clogs up everything
>in addition to that the company buys overpriced winshit laptops which aren't as high end as they pretend to be

I've been wasting time for quite a while instead of doing something useful. I feel like shit rn for that... plus I have been going to bed at like 3-4am for the past 4 days and haven't slept well because of that. not sure how to change my shitty habits.

>>105669294
nice LARP, retard

>>105673122
Nwtflux was a monolith until 2024
Ads another L to your collextion, pajeet

>>105673178
>He
Who are you trying to fool?

>>105674230
>Nwtflux was a monolith until 2024
According to your headcanon? Netflix was literally one of the earliest adopters of microservices, arguably even before docker became a thing

How do you handle your nerves when you're RTO? I have a coworker who makes small issues into dramatic huge deals and a boss who keeps overlooking my shoulder to what I'm working on and always ruining my flow. Early on I could handle it but it's really getting on my fucking nerves.

>>105674448
Get normal coworkers
The worst I have to deal with is a guy who's a bit too enthusiastic about going to certain places to get food and about certain tech topics trying to push them too much
That's about it, that's my biggest complaint out of all coworkers kek

>>105674462
damn lucky you bro ;_;

ReactJS question:

Is the most common way of handling an append to a list of objects that you’re rendering to actually use a <form> attribute and put e.preventDefault() into the event listener?
source: https://www.w3schools.com/react/react_forms.asp

I’ve been writing reactJS for more than 5 years and literally never seen this in the wild. Usually, I’ve seen that you just don’t use <form> and then you don’t have to do e.preventDefault(), right?

Asking because I recently saw this in an online technical screening interview.
Do any of you guys actually use <form> and e.preventDefault()? I’m just mesmerized that I’ve never seen this in the wild before.

>>105674448
I miss my McD coworkers so much.....

>>105674448
>coworker who makes small issues into dramatic huge deals
- tell him to set up a linter
- just do what the fucker asks
- if you already managed to ship it, tell him to go clean it up (“I don’t have the bandwidth to refactor that rn because I’m on a high priority task. But if you have the bandwidth, go ahead.”)
I guess it also depends on what he’s making a big deal about, so some examples of the nitpicking would be useful

>boss who keeps overlooking my shoulder to what I'm working on
like, randomly beyond stand-ups?
is it micromanaging, or are they trying to give you other work?
this is sometimes a tactic for trying to pressure somebody to leave the company

>>105674462
>is a guy who's a bit too enthusiastic about going to certain places to get food
that’s weird, but seems like an easy lever for getting on his good side

>trying to push them too much
shiny new object syndrome?
you could encourage him to test them out in personal projects before adoption within the team.
you could also pull: “Wow. That sounds really interesting. Maybe we could try putting it to an anonymous vote on the team?”

>>105674448
If my company tries to force RTO, I find a different company

>>105674448
It's practically impossible for my workplace to RTO because we've traded our office for one of those coworking spaces that can accomodate maybe 10 people at a time. Our teams are also massively spread out and my manager works from outside the EU.

>>105674527
>coworker
my coworker will be okay with things operational for like a couple of years but recently he's been INSANELY bitchy now in which WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS ASAP. I'd rather he not fucking say it during our standup and try to loop it to me first so I can pre-empt something but no this bitch will always use our group meetings to be his drama little session. It's not like I even leave him on read or anything on the rare times he does take me aside to talk about this stuff but him always bringing it to the group especially in front of our VP grinds my fucking gears man.

>Boss
he sits behind me and anytime he asks a question, doesn't matter if im working on something he'll ask it. If I'm working on something he's not "aware of" like, he'll try to "feign" interest but it's more of trying to scope creep and try to make whatever I'm learning work more for the company. Like if I'm working on a new feature X that I haven't say anything about yet, he'll peak over and be like ohhhhh can it also work for Y,Z,A,B,C and I'll be like I don't know I'm just playing around with it then he'll leave it on my desk and I'll be like... "come the fuck on man....I didn't even get X working yet"

trying to keep my cool in team meetings for these but it's getting really hard to control my body language.

>>105674565
Based, same. Every member of my team lives in a different country.

Manager is not even in the same timezone so unable to micromanage even if he wanted to

>>105674552
kinda hard in my location but yeah I've been looking. I just need something to chill my nerves while I'm RTO so I can focus on interviewing elsewhere.

>>105674565
God these new "open spaces" that are popping up in the EU are so aids. Total fucking cancer.

>>105674573
>I'd rather he not fucking say it during our standup
yeah, so those are items that you call out for returning to at the tail end of stand-up… and everyone can just zone out for it…
>especially in front of our VP
is he a direct report? is he pointing out your tech debt?
you can just ignore his bitching if you’re not responsible for him.
if you are, tell him to make a JIRA ticket for it in the backlog — which inevitably gets deprioritized as shit that doesn’t matter. (or it goes into the allotted operational excellence bucket)
sounds like the dude is a junior that doesn’t lead any projects, so he just doesn’t get it.
this is an inevitable step in growth as an engineer. the next step is actually doing shit to fix problems instead of just complaining about them — actually that’s another feedback you can bring if he’s not doing that already: bring proposed solutions to the table when raising awareness of a problem.
there’s quite a few options for scoring some easy mentoring points here

>>105674759
funny he's a senior. i do ignore his bitching and do investigate it but it's quite frustrating he doesn't give the heads up and uses the standup as a "gotcha" moment. maybe it's less on me and him just using the standup to go OMG SARAH ASKED ME TO DO X AGAIN REEEEEEEEE" but I'd really wish he curbed that shit. It's just that his work relies on my stuff and he lovessss to bring it out whenever my work is a slight inconvenience for him even if it's not personal.

>>105674573
>If I'm working on something he's not "aware of" like, he'll try to "feign" interest but it's more of trying to scope creep and try to make whatever I'm learning work more for the company.
>Like if I'm working on a new feature X that I haven't say anything about yet, he'll peak over and be like ohhhhh can it also work for Y,Z,A,B,C and I'll be like I don't know I'm just playing around with it then he'll leave it on my desk
dude, wtf kind of company is this?
you get to just create your own work without formally telling your manager?
even in the more bottom-up companies that I’ve been at, my manager always knows the projects that I’m on and I’d be asking for a smack down if I don’t take his input seriously.
it’s usually at least pushing the envelope if I just start putting a significant chunk of my bandwidth on an idea without at least pitching it to my manager

>>105674383
Back to bizzaro world with you

>>105674797
>funny he's a senior. i do ignore his bitching and do investigate it
is he in a more senior role than you?
that’s a completely different dynamic if so.
>uses the standup as a "gotcha" moment
if the issue is usually pointed at you investigating and solving it, you could go “I’d appreciate it if you could bring these issues up more proactively than just waiting for stand-up to bring these items to me”
>work relies on my stuff and he lovessss to bring it out whenever my work is a slight inconvenience for him
yeah, so the thing to say here is totally “I’d really appreciate if you’d be more proactive about bringing up these blockers than sitting on them until stand-up”

>>105674482
are there really no ReactJS developers here?
Nobody can tell me whether this is actually a common thing or not?

>>105674797
have you tries not being incompetent, pajeet?

>>105674819
the kind of company that only exists in his head

Trump just made it illegal to sleep in your car... Techbros, how do we keep our grindset FIRE going if we have to pay rent now?

>>105674949
wtf? sauce? what happened to the land of the free?

>Sunday night again
>Had to close the office on thursday and I left the AC on, no one's been in there since then, no one knows yet, I'll get a talk for forgetting to turn it off
>I'm way behind on the shit I've to deliver
>I don't even know how to start with one of the things, i've left it for so long that it'd be ridiculous to ask for help at this point just to even get started
I'm not made for this i wanna be a fucking neet again

>>105675067
Yep get back to /utwg/

>>105672084
kys

>>105674882
yeah probably should the last guy who had this job apparently kept beefing with him before he eventually quit.
>>105674819
surprisingly a big company where nobody has any direction on how to do things. the stuff I'm usually working on is stuff that's his boss tells him to do but it's kinda a thing that we can't do without the resources but I'll usually work on a proof of concept just to get it working.

>>105662848
people with actually-hard jobs that do lots of real work and get shit done who just can't do it anymore and if they quiet quit it would be obvious in 1 hour because the work a real-ass-job in information technology instead of the fake-ass-make-work job for psuedo-technical useless eaters. That's who quits due to burnout.

>manager confirms that where i currently work is a dead end and the company will never promote me because it just isn't big enough
>apply to higher positions elsewhere
>get interviews here and there because of my yoe
>stumble on technicals cause there's always something i don't have experience in and they're looking for someone who they don't have to train at all
>apply to positions that are at the same level, just slightly higher salary
>never get a response back
is this actual hell
i'm just going to be stuck like this?

Dunno if it's just me lately, but there's been a lot of posts here with such egos. I don't know what really brought these anons here but news flash, you're not god's greatest creation. He doesn't even think of us.

>>105675153
>surprisingly a big company where nobody has any direction on how to do things
what fucking company? sounds like an early stage start-up that just received a gigantic amount of funding
>his boss tells him to do but it's kinda a thing that we can't do without the resources
sounds like your boss is a retard that doesn’t have the balls to tell people to stop dicking around with bullshit that isn’t on the roadmap, because if he did it seems like there’d be plenty of resources to get the fucking thing done

bro, please tell me what clown show this is because it sounds like I could absolutely fucking steamroll every single clown in the whole shop

>>105675233
not gonna say it but it's surprisingly pretty big. boomer company though so they're really trying to play catchup even though they're stuck in their boomer ways.

>>105675224
>stumble on technicals cause there's always something i don't have experience in
wtf are they probing you for?
basically all front-end and system design rounds that I’ve had are completely reasonable.

sometimes a retarded gatekeeper with a penchant for a specific tool like elasticsearch or mongodb will catch you in a system design round, but there will always be gatekeepers and sticklers

>>105675258
>not gonna say it
nigger, it’s not big if it’s small enough to doxx who you are

>>105675282
Yeah. I'm going to stop engaging with you. I do not like to talk to people who use that word freely.

>>105675227
4chan has always had an ego of smug IT workers, but maybe there’s a greater lack of self-awareness now

don't wear your lip ring, nose ring, septum ring, ear rings, eyebrow ring and cheek piercings to an interview if you want the job.

>>105675264
the gatekeeping shit, only reason i can tell is ill make it to the last round and then get the "sorry we went with someone else" email
there's no reason for me to make it so far and then dropped unless they're nitpicking something, while the other guy i'm competing with has everything they're looking for

>>105675310
What's wrong with that?

>>105675290
>my coworker is an asshat that likes to start drama
>no, I’m not going to try mentoring him because he should just know better
>my stupid ass manager keeps telling me to work on more relevant tasks, and loses interest when I tell him I’m just dicking around
>despite how big the company is, everbody is just so lost and directless
>hehe I’m so smart for dicking around all day
>no, I’m not going to tell you where it was because only I’m allowed to be a freerider
>OH NO, YOU CANT SAY THAT WORD HERE!!! SIR! SIR! THAT WORD IS A NO-NO!!!!!

I was hoping for some advice, but it really sounds like you're just on here to jerk your own self.

>>105662301

I am trained in cabinet making and made 12 bucks an hour then got blackballed from every woodshop in town because I wouldn't put up with the rainbow flag nonsense or the creepy old supervisor who was a predatory homosexual. This man was a grandpa, another coworker quit over his sexual harassment as well.

To be honest I can't stand faggots, they are predatory and push that shit on children, am a Muslim and believe they should be publicly executed.

It was probably for the best since I went back to programming, my childhood hobby, and ending up learning advanced math. Now I can build neural networks from scratch and apply high level math in a professional context.

Why is this whole nation abandoning God? I live in the most Christian part of the USA and all that faggot flag nonsense is taking root. What happened to Christians? Even the government and military promotes it now, the media and banks. It is like they are being taken over by Satan.

Anyways, that's my rant. Unless you land a sweet union gig or start your own business, a lot of tradesmen survive in poverty. Speaking from personal experience. Less than 1% of the human population can write code, think about that.

>>105675319
>only reason i can tell is ill make it to the last round and then get the "sorry we went with someone else" email
yo dude, I’ve been hearing about that and I got 3 final rounds next week after spamming out literally 100+ job apps for over a month.
I’ve spammed out so many that I’m starting to get “max applications limit” emails and have probably heard back from any big name that’s legitimately hiring right now.
I’m fucking terrified I’m going to just get a bunch of response email like that.

>>105674601
>Manager is not even in the same timezone so unable to micromanage even if he wanted to
Mine's only two timezones away so he's available enough to micromanage shit to fuck up my life.

moot was right about Australians.

>>105675415
>What happened to Christians?
Most of this crowd went the route of MAGA. The other part of the Christians turned into some new age liberal variety of Christian that just wants to hug and accept everybody and not take responsibility for their own or others' actions

Okay retards, the only actual tech worker here,

I've been in my current company for 6 months now. When can I leave? I don't want to be here, they pay like trash and they're all indian. Please help.

>>105676188
6-7 months ago the best job you could find was one that paid terribly and was full of Indians, why do you think you're going to have better luck now?

>>105676196
Because I now have 6 months of experience.

>>105676200
lol

>>105676209
Just answer the question gay man.

Frankly, leaving tech and trying to get into a civil worker job. Less work, better pay.

>>105676188
>they pay like trash and they're all indian
SWE in 2025 is just like that. If you want a SWE job without those two things, go back in time 15 years.

>>105676219
tl;dr it's around the 1-2 year mark before it's "good" to leave a job to accept a higher position at another company, sorry to break it to you. Looks like you're putting up with the ganges river stank for a while.
HR Staceys assume that if you were at a job for less than a year, you got thrown out on your ass.

>Company in turmoil over funding
>Big morning meeting announcing strategy for company was silently cancelled
>Nobody is spilling the beans or talking in slack at all anymore
>Manager friend wont tell me what’s happening in a one on one. Whole thing feels weird and looming. Basically says that he’s always enjoyed working with me.

I’m getting fired aren’t I? At least I won’t have to work on fucking web apps for a while. I think your life is worth more the less people this type of work.

>>105673808
>devops, network engineering, etc. have their own titles and get huffy if you call them "IT".
then they're faggots. That's IT. Hell desk could be considered IT but it's a special type of misery.

>>105664515
I always said no unless I cared about a project, liked the people. You are just a cuck lmao. They can't do shit if you are actually good at your job.

>>105676188
>only actual tech worker here
Rude. I'll prove myself with tribal knowledge

>manager schedules weekly 1-on-1s
>get on the call
>"so what do you have for me?"
>"this is YOUR time after all"
>somehow I'M expected to drive the 1-on-1 and come up with weekly agendas
I really want to get cheeky and cancel the meetings. "What? You said it's MY time, so I'm taking it back so I can finish my actual work"

>>105662231
>Half indian half jewish
DIOS MIO

>>105676188
>the only actual tech worker here
>been doing this for 6 months!!!
Imagine being this fucking retarded. You deserve what you get.
>.t IT specialist with 25+ years of experience
You need at LEAST 5 years of on the job experience before you can branch out. 10 years before you can start your own business.

>>105670517

>>105664660
wow. I would feel bad. seeing as I only use door dash to send brown people though unsolvable puzzles.

It's Monday morning, what nightmaters reside in my outlook inbox and teams, and what horrible dramas will unfold?...

is it really fucking monday tomorrow fuck

>>105662231
>>105666546

This guys mom is the ceo of x by the way

>>105672516
What does your company use, thats your answer. Internal transfer would be the easiest way for you to transition

>almost monday
please PLEASE don't do this to me

>>105670214
Indians usually do it from the engineering side IME. HR is usually just genuinely incompetent in good faith.

when i'm at work its not that bad but every single moment outside of work i want to kill myself and dread going back

>>105676405
hELP

>>105677533
kill-switch and post results
after that quietly head over to >>>/g/utwg

>>105677569
Kill switch? You man just stop working? Sorry I’m fucking stupid

Brother I hate life so fucking much
I hate that this is how the rest of my life is going to be
I hate that I'm "privileged" enough to have an office job that pays decently well and it's still not making me anywhere near stable let alone happy
What a horrible existance

>>105677997
Move to Japan.

My boss threatened to PIP me because I put my taskbar on the left... then he fired me on the spot when he saw me using the alt button to navigate outlook... why are they like this bros

>>105676634
You'll understand when you start making real money little buddy

Got through the interview gauntlet. I was the top applicant but the company said they've decided to not hire anyone and wait if someone even better comes along.
Damn the job market is rough these days.

>>105678257
Sounds like you're unemployable? Back to the other thread neety

>>105678257
lmao I'd be seething, unironically expecting a unicorn. What a waste of time.

>>105675205
nice larp. Go be a special snowflake somewhere you belong, like /lgbt/

>>105675227
Pajeets have flooded the board hard in the last few years and this is the result. Poos literally think they're the best programmers on earth because 'they wouldn't hire us so much otherwise'

>>105675310
The opposite.You'll be hired on the spot because they'll think you're some kind of troon adjacent walking disease which is great for esg funding

>>105678286
I'm already employed, just looking for a more interesting position. Haven't done job seeking in several years.

>>105678289
Meh, I'm not in a hurry. They might be back after they come empty on their unicorn hunt. That role required some very specific expertise that's not exactly commonly available in the market

>>105676188
Never because the market won't recover and there are no jobs. But if the market was normal you should wait at least 2 years before leaving

>>105676405
yes, pretty obvious

>>105676634
>I've never had a job
ok pajeet

>>105676737
Plenty of successful tech businesses started with people with 0 yoe

>>105678289
I'm such an unironic unicorn I'm a fucking bicorn and I still can't get shit. Stuck in a meme ai legaltech shitshow where all my colleagues including the cto can't program whatsoever without chatgpt

>>105678348
they are NEVER back.

>>105678373
Like Bill Gates and shit. All you have to do to get a job is walk into a company, give the manager a firm handshake and you‘ll be hired on the spot, $300k starting.

>>105678397
Probably, but no biggie. I can afford to wait until something equally interesting pops up.

>task: create a small project in autoit
>I'm generating it with copilot
>I never wrote any autoit code, I'm just wibe coding it and fixing issues I notice by asking more detailed questions
>I'm feeling awful
Literally how I feel. This is just wrong, but I don't work with autoit and learning it feels pointless, especially that it is a one off project.

>>105678610
>>task: create a small project in autoit
Red flag; run away.

>another string of interviews
>another weve decided to pursue another candidate email

I’m so tired bros..

>>105678610
if your task in a genuine corpo environment is to use autoit that is cursed as fuck. that is even worse than load-bearing excel sheets.

also you're a retarded moron if you can't do autoit scripts without "vibe coding" kwab

>>105675227
What's god's greatest creation?

>>105678663
>>105678611
I never used and never will use it again. I basically have to create a small app to assist with migration to windows 11.
Checking cpu/office installation and few other win10 specific apps and accordingly propose win11 or mac or linux and update a cursed load-bearing excel sheet on a shared drive.
For real backend I will use python, but the nagging app has to be autoit as that's what responsible it teams know.

>>105678716
I get denied ai assisted take homes. Not sure if they can tell or what

>>105678709
creatures (for having sex with)

>>105678620
meanwhile in yurop
>we are extending the engineering workforce by 50%
once again if the candidate can spell their name without mistakes they are hired, double so if DIE. MEGA is so back

>>105678834
You hiring remote?

>>105678898
nope, and office days are going to be bumped from 1 to 2-3 / week unfortunately

>>105678934
>>105678934
>>105678934

>>105678425
Even to this day though, you can still make successful companies with 0 connections and 0 yoe today

>>105679202
>t. 6th degree hustler's university member