Thread 105689186

Why is it so hard to just fix up linux so that women and normies can use it?

>>105689186 (OP)
Because Linux is not made for stupid people.
It doesn't break randomly. It breaks when people uninstall system packages, or manually change settings or files that they don't understand.

>>105689186 (OP)
>india amongst the countries with highest number of linux users
are women more retarded than pajeet males?

No woman is going to touch CLI shit, stop kidding yourselves.
They want things to just work.
CLI literally gives them the ick just like you.
Men might entertain you and give your looney OS a try just to make you shut the fuck up with your vegan screeching, but women will just ghost you and tell all their friends what a loser you are. Linux doesn't just work, fix it.

>>105689186 (OP)
it's already just as usable
problem is it doesn't come pre-installed like windows does.

normies cant install windows either

>>105689208
>linux users, or as i've recently taken to calling them, lincels, are actually proud of being street shitting jeets

>>105689210
When I worked for my local ISP our secretary used Linux mint. That was in the early days of Mint.
Damn that bitch was an absolute slut.

Women buy Apple shit only because it's status symbol, they don't care about anything else.

>>105689210
everyone would tolerate cli if it was designed better
for example instead of "sudo apt install" you would just write "install" and instead of "rm" you would just write "delete" without all these weird random letters

>>105689255
Someone post that vid where Terry talks about CLI and niggers.

because linux is corporatised and the other portion of it is built by schizophrenic retards who spout "use case" whenever anyone comments on something not making sense or requesting a feature.
Therefore you cannot have things that just work. Additionally every time a project will nearly reach useable status something will nuke it so that either a new standard comes in, a rewrite or rebuild that brings it back to trash status.

Women would be able to use the CLI and terminal, you can even guide them towards it, but it's the mass of different standards, ways of doing things and conflicts that'll do it.
Look at applications, appimage is aids but works, flatpak is aids, there's snap then native packages etc and building.
Now look at the nuke dropping on flatpak.
It's inevitable. Developers on these projects are the type of people who boot up a vidya gaem, play it for 3-4 hours, then a few years later go back to replay the first 3-4 hours, over and over, and over, and over.

>>105689186 (OP)
Normies only use browsers, discord and spotify, all of which you can install on Linux. It only gets complicated if you're a power user, in which case you'll feel right at home anyway.
The truth is normies will use whatever comes preinstalled on their laptop, no matter how dog shit. ChromeOS has already proven this. literally the only thing stopping mass Linux adoption is because most laptops come with Windows preinstalled.

>>105689278
>other portion of it is built by schizophrenic retards who spout "use case"
those work for the corpo that has the most influence on linux

>Now look at the nuke dropping on flatpak
What is happening with shitpak?

>>105689278
> Now look at the nuke dropping on flatpak?

What?!? I thought it was the future of Linux packaging

>freetards don't know the rules of the real world
shocker

>>105689358
Edit: this is what I found online...this kind of stuff happens too many times in the OSS world unfortunately.

https://www.osnews.com/story/142467/flatpak-not-being-actively-developed-anymore/

>>105689255
I've got just the thing for you

>>105689382
kek did they get tired of the overengineered garbage that it is?

>>105689186 (OP)
Linux is for servers and single-purpose devices like Android.
It's not a replacement for Windows or MacOS and it's not meant to be used by women and normies.

The fact that you don't understand this means you're somewhat autistic.

there was a time when woman could cli

https://youtu.be/tc4ROCJYbm0?t=937

>>105689237
>they don't care about anything else
They don't understand anything else. Abble? Cute! Everything stops there.

also doctor who.

>>105689186 (OP)
Women and normies can't use PCs anymore regardless of what you do. Any DE is completely overwhelming to them. They can't understand a file directory.

>>105689382
OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>105689382
I never understood the point of any of these besides repos and compiling from source, and maybe the odd appimage.

>>105689186 (OP)
The powers that be don’t want that. It’s that simple.

>>105689210
fpbp

>create thing
>normgroids avoid it
>you wish normgroids would like it
>maybe if you simplified it, normgroids would use it and give you societal approval?
>you do it for free
>normgroids start flocking to it
>they call you an incel/loser/masturbator and kick you out of the fanbase
Zamn.

>>105689210
females want to feel good and collect attention and money from beta males. Beta males compete and shit on each other for the opportunity to create replacement wageslaves with a woman and shower them with attention and money. And schizos and autists exist to do shit for free and get shat on by normgroids so they feel superior

>>105689186 (OP)
This is actually an issue in the Linux community and has been documented several times.
So far there have been 2 studies that gather IQ and software preference in universities, and, to the surprise of anyone, Linux users are noticeably "smarter" (IQ not necessarily mean someone is smarter, as several things influence the ability to rationalise) than Mac users and Windows users (one of the tests includes both Android and iOS in the results because apparently, nowadays people don't own computers anymore).
The issue is. Everyone working on Linux and using it is so far off the curve that people with disabilities (IQ was literally created to measure mental retardation) just can't figure out the same thought process that the guys who made it had.
Women, children and ethnic groups with lower IQs struggle a lot with Linux, and it's not the developers fault. Google spends a ridiculous amount of money making their OS "retard proof" to the point where toddlers and even chimps learn how to use tablets.

Answering OP's question.
The only way to make Linux easy for children, women and some minorities is by including them in the testing groups, like Google did.
Meanwhile we will need to contend with "people" posting about how GNOME is hard to use...

>>105689186 (OP)
Why do we have to suffer through your speculation about what linux is like? Can't you find something better to do, dipshit?

>>105689237
Maybe it's a status symbol for a fucking poorfag.

>>105689210
My gf calls me smart when she sees me typing in commands to a terminal. I think it helps that she uses my Plex server and knows that I access it remotely. Getting the benefits of my nerd shit shines a positive light on it all.

>>105689186 (OP)
>so that women and normies can use it?
Do we even want women and normies to use it to begin with?

>>105689255
Word homie, they need to make computers easier, like TV, so people in the community can get jobs.

>>105689832
>degredation
Why do you keep reposting this shit, retard?

>>105690197
hi newfag

>>105690207
Hi, moron. Why do you keep reposting that garbage, stupid?

>>105690220
stay mad

>>105689210
fpbp

>>105690227
Speak English, garbage boy.

>>105689382
FREETARDS BTFO

>>105689382
so Canonical won with their Snap?

>>105689832
This is true.
Also Linux for women is just MacOS

>>105691138
this, anyway if you want normgroid approval there are better ways of accomplishing that than normifying linux
like killing and raping people in a war

>>105689198
YES DO AS I SAY

>>105689186 (OP)
Not even smart people can use it. Its only good for servers.

>>105689210
HOLY BASTE

>>105690347
Speak French, un putain!

>>105689210
fpbp

>>105689186 (OP)
everything what female or a normalfag touch, it turns to complete boring bullshit.

>be me
>used linux in my teens
>got tired of of dealing with the tism
Switched to macOS when Apple released their own silicon. Suddenly tism choices are much easier to make because the choice itself when completing a task is constrained to 1 or 2 methods vs 10 or 20 on LONIX.

>>105689186 (OP)
Why are you assuming i want any of those using the same stuff as me?

>>105689210
We're working on it. We just have to overthrow Redhat to restore FreeDesktop to it's former glory.

>>105689186 (OP)
is that the cute physics girl

>>105689210
Women shouldn't have freedom

>>105689255
powershell tried

>>105689210
fpbp

>>105689186 (OP)
Because the average computer is updated a hell of a lot less often than you think
Windows stays fairly usable even if Windows Update borked itself on your computer a year and a half ago, you'll still probably be able to run the latest Chrome and whatever Office applications are needed. It'll still read your email.
Meanwhile on Linux any pre-compiled Firefox binaries you might want to run will die screaming about outdated shared libraries if you haven't run a system-wide update in the past two months. It's even worse if you're just updating one part, oh you wanna update the Gnome Wifi chooser? Not happening unless you update everything from the kernel on upwards.
And in both cases this is entirely by design.

>>105690111
Yeah "your" gf says this to keep you betabuxxing. Once there's a chad, she will spread her legs regardless how smart he is.

>>105689186 (OP)
Women and children ruin everything, let them out and we can have a nice OS.

>>105689186 (OP)
>women
Why would I want them on my Operating System?

>>105689186 (OP)
We don't want women and normies to use it.

>>105689186 (OP)
the only women i want on my OS are cute lolis

>>105695361
kys pedo. try not to touch any little kids this month

>>105689186 (OP)
It's not that hard, it's been done with Android and ChromeOS and Steam OS, but the problem is that freetards don't know how to make a user friendly experience without dumbing things down too much.

>>105695361
based pedo, make sure to touch lots of lolis this month

>>105689255
Normgroids will regularly put in effort to learn a new language like Italian that they're never going to use outside of a single week-long vacation but they can't learn a few commands that mean basically the same thing as "install" or "delete" that they could use for years if they switched to Linux.
This is a problem is normalfags being irrational and retarded, and not with Linux and CLIs.

>>105695449
Based maki poster, why did this practice die out on /g/?

>>105689186 (OP)
I installed mint for my cousin once. She is dumb as shit. The tech support calls stopped afterwards.
>>105689382 Best news ive heard all day.

>>105689186 (OP)
Like Android? ChromeOS?

>>105695449
People learn languages because they can brag. Saying you speak Italian increases your social credit score, meanwhile saying you can use the console lowers your social score.
It’s quite easy to understand normalfags when you realize most of the things they do are performative in nature. It’s not just doing it’s how they’ll look like while doing it or saying they can do it

>>105689186 (OP)
>so that women and normies can use it
But that's the exact point when everything becomes shit. RIP video games.

>>105695449
>Normgroids will regularly put in effort to learn a new language
They don't
They attend a couple months of lessons, or just download duolingo, and then talk about how they are "learning Italian" for years
Normies only ever do anything for clout, they have no passions and no desire to learn. Their only criteria are "will this make me look cool?" and "will this make people want to fuck me?"

>>105689210
I don't care about women's opinions

>>105695449
>what are aliases
retard

>>105697703
>Their only criteria are "will this make me look cool?" and "will this make people want to fuck me?"
and the sad part is that it works

>>105689382
Good, fuck redhat, even though i think flatpak are a good solution for packaging third part multiarch and proprietary shit that isn't excessively bloated (once you have downloaded enough runtimes the actual single flatpak space isn't exaggerated) compared to appimages. That said, i'm not going to lament their dismissal, there are enough tools that can safely take their place.

>>105689186 (OP)
Intermediately skilled computer users do not read manuals. Microsoft found this again and again during UI tests. Only experienced/power users read manuals. Linux will never be usable for intermediate users, the kind of people who can confidently poke around with all the features of the Windows GUI but who do not use the terminal, because the people who make software for Linux expect you to read the manual. They take it as an affront that you do not read the manual. Unlike Microsoft, they have no commercial or structural incentives to write software from the user's perspective except where that user is themselves and their friends, both categories being people who read the manual. At a push, they may write overly dumbed down software which caters to beginner users (which they naively imagine all normies to be), but which - if it breaks - requires the intervention of an experienced user. They will not ever write programs for intermediate users, it is not a use case they can see or understand.

It helps that the Linux ecosystem has about 10,000 programmers for every 1 person who knows anything about UX.

>>105695449
you imagine that "install" and "delete" are an end in themselves. why should you have to open the terminal and type "delete sneed" when you can just click sneed and then press delete?
a computer is a tool. it exists to help you get something else done, whether that's shitposting, astronomy, or spreadsheets. putting up barriers to getting that thing done because of your own preferences for how the user should use the system is cancerous.

when developing windows 95 they found that users liked to drag file icons onto folder icons to put a file into a folder, an obvious, intuitive inference from how a graphical interface works. this wasn't what was designed: you were supposed to open the folder, then put the file icon into the folder window. microsoft did something that no modern programmer would do: instead of telling the users that they were wrong, they re-wrote it so that you could drop icons directly into folders. normies aren't unreasonable, developers are.

>>105689210
jokes on you, i only fuck men, much like the guy in your picrel does

>>105689186 (OP)
Why would you want women and normies use linux. Name one good thing women and normies are using.

>>105698712
Indoor plumbing, electricity, a modern food distribution system, ovens, microwaves, fridges, freezers, tables, heating, the airplane, automobile, train and ship.

>>105698722
Bloat.

My elderly luddite mother uses Linux without problems.

>>105697703
>>105697729
Then why aren't you just doing the same?