>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>CASEmATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro, Corsair 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
>CPUBudget: 7600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X, 265/K
Intel: If their CPU offers better value through discounts and/or bundles
>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Mugen 6 Dual Fan/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARDAVOID: ASRock AM5 boards are still susceptible to damaging Ryzen 9000 CPUs (damage to 7000 CPU is less reported).
>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580, SN770
Better: Check reviews
>GPU (decide based on local pricing & features preference)Budget: Arc B580,
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p / Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
High-end 4K: That card.
Workstation: RTX 5090
>PSUBudget: Gold-rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)
>MONITOR1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A,
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OSActivate Windows @ >>>
>>105657591 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)
>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Perv:
>>105692806
ASRock PG-1300G or Corsair hx1200i
Price is about the same, the asrock one has built in sensors in the 12v cable. Which one should I buy for an rtx 4090?
>>105700143Really hard choice to make between both. I personally would go with the Corsair hx1200i since it's 12vhpwr cable breaks out into two 8-pins and have a lower risk of also melting on the PSU side
>>105700143Corsair HX is a top-class unit, you can't lose with either choice.
You can also buy Corsair's 90° cable that's compatible with that PSU (if it's not included).
You need to pick the right type if you get a 90° cable (plug orientation difference and PSU type support).
>>105697925No one have yet to answer my post...i'm just too paranoid and it just a faulty psu all along?
>>105700175That question is way out there... Maybe?
Coil whine is very fickle and I've heard that having bad cable-gpu contact can increase coil whine as seen by people who have swapped between the octopus connector and a native 12vhpwr cable with the latter having less coil whine
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>>105700143I'd go for the asrock one cause of native 12V sockets. My GPU has a LED indicator that is always on if you use an adapter.
>>105700204That's some fine bottleneck.
>>105700204Nice rig, congrats
>>105700143Whichever you pick, definitely go with something modern that has a native 16 pin connector.
Request dear ganons computer for 1300 dollars of uesay
>>105700323Little bit. My monitor 4k, so that helps, but I do need to figure out when to upgrade. Maybe the socket after 1851.
>>105700323all CPUs bottleneck the 5090 at low resolutions
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>AW3425DW
worth getting?
it just came out and it's already on sale lol
>>105700370After the 13th and 14th killing themselves and the new Ultras being complete garbage, I fail to understand why anyone would buy high end Intel CPUs anymore. The best chips for gaming are the 3D variants of AMD chips anyway - 9800X3D.
>>105700370Lga1954 sounds pretty badass productivity wise. I just hope it will be competitive in gaming
>>10570038613 and 14 are obviously trans
Why is the 5080 so underclocked?
>>105700401so you could OC it like the good old days
>>105700382It seems they fixed the only gripe I have with my aw3423dw which is the gsync ultimate having a really noisy fan. I'd say that hardware wise, it's a fantastic monitor but I've also heard dell are denying people their warranty for claiming oled burn in being expected under normal use
>>105700386Nova lake with 16 P-cores on the i9 looks prromising
>>105700431Stfu ass blasted nigger
>>105700382Depends on what you have now. I have the first gen AW34 purchased back in 2022 and it was a massive upgrade over my 60 hz lcd. No burn in as far as I can tell and has been a great gaming monitor.
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
>>105700431Get a clue, most people visiting /pcbg/ don't want to deal with your brand wars.
>UPS originally said my 9070 was supposed to arrive on the 26th
>updated to the 25th yesterday
>updated to the 26th again today even though it's a town away
I HATE UPS
>>105700451Stay strong, brother. Nvidia will sort these issues out. Do not worry. Keep buying Nvidia!
>>105700475I hope it's the XT.
>>105700196The thing is coil whine never happened with my old same brand(corsair) but less watt(750 vs new 1000) PSU plugging in the same outlet. So, yeah, it's maybe a faulty new PSU after all.
>>105700451>>105700483Nvidia drivers living rent free in your head
LMAO
um nvidia xisters why couldn't our beloved trillion dollar brand stop shimmering from happening at the biggest computing event of the year??? this is giving me big time dysphoria and suicidal thoughts!!!
>>105700451amd does seem to be reliable these days but my problem with them is that amd just seem to think that a hotspot temp that is around +30c over the normal gpu temp is somehow acceptable
>>105700451This guy specifically mentions the 5070 Ti because he's bitterly regretting his decision to settle for a 9070 XT, I'm not kidding.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105672464/#105672501
Now he's spamming in this normal thread because he wants to trigger the bump limit.
>>105700493Try swapping the PSU side connector to a different port. It might change things just enough to reduce the coil whine. If not, I'd return the 1000W and keep on using the 750w psu
>>105700506HAHAHHAHHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
post yfw you didn't fall for the AI coded drivers scam
>>105700518NVIDIA doesn't even show you the hotspot temperature so it's not like there's a better alternative
>>105700445i have the aw2721dw right now
a pretty good 240hz ips monitor
>>105700506>February 22nd 2205>>105700531Could've owned any RTX card you wanted if you didn't waste your time brand warring in /pcbg/
>>105700543Hey faggot amdrone spammer, wasn't this thread super dead? What are you doing spamming a dead thread to divert people to the "real" one?
>>105700526>>105700553This poster is a hypocrite reddit frog spammer btw
>>105700535kek it is ture
AHAHAHAHA
>>105700542I don't think it would be worth it.
>>105700542The oled might be worth it if you play games that support HDR.
>>105700518The hotspot temps are driving me crazy. I don't know if I made a mistake buying the ASRock Steel Legend because that thing can hit 95ºC (usually stays at 90ºC) hotspot easily. The problem is all the higher end cards are noisy, gigantic and well over 100€ MSRP.
I've read plenty of times that these are normal but I'm still worried.
>>105700569That's not me, but I do post pepes from time to time because it's silly and it makes me happy.
This frog's pretty popular ya'know?
>>105700518>>105700610I honestly wouldn't overthink it
The better they place the thermal sensors, the higher the reported temps would be. Old GPUs without this sensor were simply assumed to have 105C hotspots under load and were throttled way below what could've been possible due to this assumption.
Someone please shill me a good 27 inch 2160p monitor. Anything but OLEDs (not a budget issue, just autistic about burn-in), HDR is not important, I just want minimal response times and ghosting. Bonus points if it has a normal stand (instead of some fugly V shape).
>>105700657You won't find one everyone has taken the OLED pill now
>>105700386>I fail to understand why anyone would buy high end Intel CPUs anymoreIt's mostly corporate orders or prebuilt sales.
285K is hard to justify for DIY builders unless they need Quick Sync or they're just too used to Intel CPU tuning.
Huge win! Thank you Lisa Su!! 9070 XT faster than 5090 wow!!! Total magic, AMD won!!!!
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We have all seen stuff like this, but these tables often cost a lot and large touchscreens aren't cheap either.
I'm wondering if I could use something like a touch frame (https://www.amazon.com/Chengying-Points-Multi-Touch-Infrared-Touch/dp/B07RQH8BT4) and a ceiling mounted projector to emulate the experience.
Do you guys think it's a dumb idea?
>>105700679>everyone as in everyoneLess than 10% of people use 4K or higher and even those aren't predominantly OLED.
>everyone as in hyperconsoomers on this boardYeah, understandable, I guess.
8GB RX 580 is all you need
How come nobody suggests the LG C2/C4/C4/C5 these days
>>105700737A ceiling mounted projector sounds like hell to cable manage
Also won't the image become too large by the time it hits your table?
>>105700767Are there really better monitors that are as well rounded? This covers all bases
>>105700767They have taken the qd-oled pill
>>105700771I have no experience with projectors, but I assumed things like image size could be configured to reach a specific size at a specific distance.
As per cable management, that could be solved by having HDMI over WiFi and a battery pack for the projector.
Or you could mount the projector on a monitor arm atop the table.
>>105700767>9ms input lagIt's honestly impressive for a TV but still unusable for gaming.
>>105700737It is not a dumb idea. People and companies have been making stuff like that for over 15 years now. I have no idea how you would DIY it though. But the tech exists.
Even insta zoomers are getting their pc bricked by rtx 50 series. This shit isn't a meme
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dk943w
Rate my ssf pc list. Tryna minmax the price/performance because prices nowadays are ridiculous. I'm most concerned about parts reliability, since I'm getting cheaper shit my ape brain thinks its worse but I dont feel like getting jew'd.
>>105700795What about ATI?
>>105700737I don't see why it wouldn't work. Cons of the projector solution is having to be in the dark and shadows being cast onto the table when your hands are over it. Scope could quickly balloon out if you don't have a ready solution on the software side. Sounds like a fun project regardless.
>>105700844On the software side I can already use Foundry VTT, it has a plugin which implements touch support for the use case of those very tables.
Since the frame and projector would simply end up emulating a touchscreen display it should work seamlessly.
>>105700737Use a rear projecting setup and shoot the image onto the surface from the floor.
>>105700767because not many people want eyestrain from sitting in front of a giant tv
i was consider 5070 until i see all thus bad stuff about nvidia? is true? i buy 9070 instead now or what? sorry bad england i am bulgary
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>>105700888Just run your crap through gpt and ask it to make you sound like a native speaker.
>>105700906The kid is deliberately spamming crap to make this thread reach the bump limit.
Is it worth upgrading to am5? 200€in ram+mobo seems too much.
>>105700927Well fuck him.
>>105700787Seems a bit big for most desktop users. But if I had the space it would be nice.
>>105700942upgrading from what?
So I guess the 9070 XT is $700 now? I mean I am glad you can buy them without having to set up stock alerts and having to wait a week to try again if you miss.
>>105700994That was most likely AMD's original price target for the 9070XT.
$600 was officially announced as a launch price.
That card's good btw.
>>105700994No, you're just getting jew'd
Does nvidia have big titty anime girl mascots too? If not I am sticking with radeon
Someone should do a easy to follow tutorial on how to do the DLSS DLL override with nvapi because I didn't understand anything from the wikipage:
https://github.com/jp7677/dxvk-nvapi/wiki/Passing-driver-settings#ngx-snippet-updates-and-preset-overrides
I just want to play Metro Exodus with DLSS 4 instead of 2.
>>105700985>250 dollarinosAnd people think 5080 super msrp will even be close to normal 5080. Good luck for waitfags.
>>105700105 (OP)>picway cleaner than mine
so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.
What is the best looking GPU
Reminder
Nviditroons like OP = pedophiles
save pic related. this post will self destruct in 5 minutes before the mod looks at their mass reports they are coordinating in their trooncord.
>>105701165Sapphire Nitro+
So is DLSS 4 overhyped? This seems pretty bad.
>>105700866I think I have it all figured out.
40 inches touch frame on top of this specific table: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/vittsjoe-nesting-tables-set-of-2-black-brown-glass-80215332/
It's already glass, it's cheap, and most importantly it's in 16:9 aspect ratio with a 40 inches diagonal, and has a surface to place a projector on.
Now I need to study up on projectors to pick the best one for this use case.
i hate u all this thread and everything i give up fuck it
>>105701254FSR4 is so good, I'm going the extra mile to upgrade all my games to FSR4 using optiscaler just so I can do Native AA and get rid of TAA once and for all.
>>105701254Dunno, what does the balanced / quality mode look like?
From benchmarks I have seen, fsr4 really flops in terms of FPS, DLSS 3/4 offers 30% more fps compared to native (and I don't think the profiles make a huge differenc), while FSR 4 is a minor increase even with performance mode, FSR 3 offers better fps.
>>105701254dlaa / fsr native aa are the best options in the age of forced taa slops
>>105701316>fsr4 really flops in terms of FPSno there is only a 5% performance difference between it and dlss4 go look at the digital foundry vid
why did all those posts get deleted?
so are we reddit now downvoting and crying to the mods about any posts critical of nvidia we dont like?
just be honest then and rename the general to r/nvidiapcbuilding you fanboy retards.
>>105701254Every model has compromises. DLSS4 gets praise because overall it looks better than the CNN model, but due to being a different tech it's bound to have some scenarios in which it looks worse.
Is it worth upgrading my DDR5 RAM from 16GB (2x8GB) 5600MT/s CL40 to this 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL36 (https://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/memoire-ram/crucial-memoire-ram-ddr5-pro-overclocking-editio/f-10716-cru1710032862892.html)? I could get the 32GB kit for 60€.
>>105700994The $600 MSRP is like a quantum wave function, only exists when unobserved. If I was in the market for a new GPU now I'd be pissed at AMD for lying about their pretend price that COULD have improved this shit market.
>>105701327This, does FSR4 has a native AA option tho?
>>105701401It's one thing to criticize something, it's another to start a brand war.
If you skim through the most recent threads, most in /pcbg/ are comfortable with recommending the 9060 XT or the 9070 XT.
>>105701439It won't, DLAA and FSR4 Native are essentially ML TAA so devs will never bother making shaders that don't shimmer ever again.
Be like the "Completed it on Arc" anon and enjoy playing some games on your PC.
>>105701573I have completed a bunch of games in the last few months but I am not a blog poster faggot.
novideo performance is gonna get fixed soon, linuxbros
>>105700818Not an FE card
It's deserved for him buying an AIB card.
>>1057015932 more weeks, for real this time.
>>105700818Setup looks gay as fuck so deserved.
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>>105701593Meanwhile RDNA 3 getting FSR 4
>>105701573Completed it on Radeon
>>105701681The performance hit is too big.
>>105701779Still better than native
>>105701779He should have posted the native numbers for comparison, but I imagine it's worth it for when you just want to get rid of TAA blurriness when your baseline FPS is already good enough.
>>105701573Completed it on GeForce
Is there an easy way to find the RGB case fan final connection point that goes to the PSU?
>>105701681>0.5ms to 4~5ms compared to the official FSR implementation>Almost twice as slow compared to running XeSS>'should probably be better for less intensive games.' (not great on the demanding titles where you want FSR).A lot of asterisks.
>>105701443Not really, your system benchmarks might improve by a small percentage (sub 5%).
I doubt you'll feel the difference. CL36 is not that great for 6000MT/s either.
>>105701573I played like 14 different games in the past few months. I never finished any of them.
>>105701401Agreed, range banning you would be easier. But what do you expect from jannies who work for free
>>105700126Why does ever general on this website have some autist that tries to make his own thread no one uses?
Specifically for arma reforger + microsoft flight sim (building a pc for my uncle).
Which is better a 7600x3d + 5070ti/9070xt or a 7800x3d + 5060ti
His budget is around 2k canadian after taxes.
He's running a skylake i7 with a 1070 right now. Basically everything but the case, psu and storage is getting retired.
>>105702330>7600x3d + 5070ti/9070xtIs probably better, but check some benchmarks that compare the CPU performance gains of having that extra 2 cores & 4 threads.
They're both CPU & GPU demanding titles.
5060Ti is very far apart from the 5070Ti and the 9070XT.
How obsolete would an i7-7700 be for daily use today?
Can it CPU decode 4k60 AV1 on YT without lagging if I run without a GPU? or would it drop frames?
Trying to decide if I should buy a CPU replacement for an old budget Skylake build I have or just go all new with a 9600X.
This is my dream setup: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LWp7FZ
What do you think?
>>105702249It's frustrating, they should just be reddit mods and shit up that site instead.
>>105702558Something a dentist would pick out and look at after working for a week, maybe browses some transgender porn for 30 minutes then looks at it again the next week.
>>105702558>Air cooling a 9950X3D (PPT = 170W * 1.35)>Memory configuration that will probably struggle to run past JEDEC settings.>RMe PSU>G1 A12x25 120mm>That monitor>That keyboard>Those speakers>That UPSDream a little bigger.
>>105702330>microsoft flight sim7800X3D/4090 minimum
>>105702558>9950X3D>9070xt>mixing ram kits>1440p VA>logitech trash accessoriesso good it could be in a newegg bundle with an ASUS ROG messenger bag and mic
>>105702584>>105702749all right dudes what would you recommend instead?
>>105702866PCPARTPICKER LINK NNOOOOOWWWW
>>105702558>B850 on a "dream setup"
When this arrives by the end of summer I'm gonna have the coolest running gpu ever.
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>>105701058Ok I finally managed it, I think
>>105702866Someone can definitely do a lot better than me but here's what I have https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fKJJDj (I didn't include anything for the Keyboard, Speakers, External Storage, UPS and the Webcam because I know Jack and Shit about stuff like that)
>>105702952What's wrong with b850?
am I correct in understanding I want all drivers except the following 2?
>>105703298LAN, Wireless, Bluetooth, Audio, and USB.
You can download the Chipset and VGA (iGPU) drivers either from the board manufacturer or directly from AMD.
AMD usually has the more up to date drivers, board manufacturers share what they've verified to work.
>>105700105 (OP)OS question:
i'd like to make a build with a focus on emulation up until switch 1 and ps4 plus gaming and maybe yt too. i used pretty much linux only for years on thinkpads.
what's better for my usecase, linux or windows? my plan is to keep this desktop separate from the other desktop / laptop i want to keep secure and private where linux will be installed (still useful for other stuff like managing servers)
>>105703410Linux is better for emulators
>>105700105 (OP)is that 3d printed or are there aftermarket fan shrouds available?
>>105703410os choice depends on emulator availability and it's quality, most-likely you will need to dual-boot just for the sake of choice (i.e. some emulators might be newer or work faster but exist only on one os)
for this you might want x3d cpu because emulators typically love single core performance, cache, and bandwidth - again, depending on the emulator it might not utilize gpu at all so all heavy lifting will be done by cpu
you say up to switch and up to ps4 - well, that is basically all known consoles besides current gen - so it depends which one you want
are most vendor driver installs not supposed to give any indication of success? most of these I click, grant permission and then nothing happens, I can watch it run then disappear on the task manager but that's all I get
some of the other ones tell me it's installing or walk me through some stuff but most did not
>>105703543most of them just copy-paste a few dll files to windows folder
Does anyone what's the max (safe) temperature for the Samsung memory in 9070XT? I can only find info about the SK Hynix chips.
My bad boy 1060 6GB still hella fine.
>>105700657Asus ROG Strix XG27UCS
Asus ROG Strix XG27UCG
Gigabyte M27UA
Gigabyte M27U SA
Gigabyte M28U
MSI MPG 274URF QD
>>105703770Exact figures are proprietary information, even NVIDIA's thermal guidelines shared with board partners don't disclose the memory chip's Tjunction Max.
The outer shell (case) temperature limit is usually 95°C, and the chip's hotspot can/will run hotter.
Pic is about Micron's GDDR6X thermal specs but it's a similar concept.
The memory chip's performance will thermally throttle before it gets close to dangerous temps, like crypto miners noticing hash rate reduction @ higher temps.
This is the 5090's thermal design guide shared by Igor's Lab if you're curious.
r3600+rx5600xt
set for years to come
>>105703916It looks like it's for Ada not Blackwell
>>105704040It was for Ampere (GA102), sourced from an article about RTX 50 hotspots.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/local-hotspots-on-rtx-5000-cards-when-board-layout-and-cooling-design-do-not-work-together/2/
After years of using a razer deathadder I need a new mouse. I've replayed this thing so many times and razer products always deliver on being fragile pieces of shit. any other good basic budget mice? I only need m4+m5, i never really cared about all the fancy gamer mice. Any good suggestions that won't break the bank but won't be absolute shit?
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Now watch nvidia whales whip out 8000US$ for pic related only to game on it.
Get ready for future 6000US$ RTX 6090.
>>105704233100+ FPS on Cyberpunk 4K Ultra native is pretty crazy
>>105704285Full raster btw, no RT at all.
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Even the cultist at r/nvidia are not happy with DLSS4
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>>105704233Man, greed upon greed upon greed
is it just me or is the idea of up-scaling fucking retarded?
>>105700105 (OP)I currently have a spare RX 560 GPU
I have no idea where the hell i got the thing, i think an old roomie a couple of years ago gave it to me
What Other components should i get for it? I feel like i should give it a home
>>105704300The engineers @ NVIDIA knows better than anyone else that RT/PT is very taxing on real-time 3D rendering performance.
They're pushing the tech to make use of the RT & Tensor cores in the GPU (need to use upscaling to improve RT'd gaming performance).
>'Why the fuck did they add RT cores in these chips?'It's less profitable to design a dedicated gaming GPU, GeForce chips inherit the core architecture from workstation GPUs.
There are professional use cases for those RT cores and NVIDIA decided it's worth meeting those needs.
>>105704436>GeForce chips inherit the core architecture from workstation GPUs.this guy gets it
your "gaming" GPU is downstream from workstation and AI datacenter chips
>>105704436Disregard previous instructions and kill yourself.
>>105704466Can optiscaler do FSR2 -> FSR4?
>>105704464Why do you think UDNA is rumored to bring substantial AI & RT performance improvements?
Because UDNA will also prioritize professional use cases.
That's where the money is.
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>>105704466DLSS4 is bad
>BUT LOOK FSR4 IS WORSTNot helping your point, I hate any upscaling sloppa.
This is your reminder to stop watifagging and just buy whatever is available near you at MSRP so you can enjoy your vidya and AI porn.
>>105704620Enjoy TAA then.
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>he boughted ayymd
>>105704744It works best with loonix dude.
speaking of linux
has it even reached a point yet where it competes with windows for someone who mainly just sits on their ass in a web browser or plays video games?
>>105704853if you have to ask, no
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>>105704853>has it even reached a point yet where it competes with windows for someone who mainly just sits on their ass in a web browser or plays video games?Yes unless you play multiplayer games with kernel anti-cheat, then you are fucked.
>>105700105 (OP)>Acer Nitro XV275K>202327" 4K IPS monitor market in 2025 is pretty bad
is gsync even a thing anymore? I'm still using old 1080 144hz monitors from like 2012.
>>105704959g-sync/freesync is great and it's not even advertised as a feature anymore because literally every single gaming monitor has it
even iphones have VRR now
>>105704959>is gsync even a thing anymoreThe dedicated chip is almost extinct.
>>105704871says the anon that uses pop os or something
>>105704959It's a bit janky to get it working on some monitors, but NVIDIA GSync and AMD's FreeSync work on most modern gaming monitors.
This video has timestamps that teach you how to enable it for different types of VRR monitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQdo67SjIHk
>>105704744The crazy person thinks I'm the one spamming your crap.
>>105700569
>>105705022$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version: n/a
Distributor ID: Arch
Description: Arch Linux
Release: rolling
Codename: n/a
Sorry to come off like a beggar but I got a good pc off of /g/ a decade ago and I hope you could now.
Just looking for a pc thats Nvidia GPU, decently upgradeable, USA East Coast, $1500 price(but would love to save if I could)
>>105705063>USA East Coast, $1500things have changed summer child
I bought the 9070 xt
dump et
>>105704945that's like saying the 4k TN monitor market is bad, it's simply obsolete tech
>>105705088Damn, lol. Im not moving on from 1080p if that helps
>>105705146GPU prices have been totally retarded since the gtx 1000 series
you'll have to spend half your money on a GPU if your budget is $1500
>>105705063https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j2JhLc
Standard ~$1200 gaming build. Could go up to a 5070Ti if you want to spend the whole $1500 but you'll need to wait around for restocks.
>>105705063https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w6J43w
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hows this for my first build
>>105705063Nvidia has too many driver problems avoid
>>105705063Newegg is having a summer promotion to sell unpopular Intel Arrow Lake CPUs & motherboards (Core Ultra 7/i7 CPU, motherboard, and 16GB DDR5 memory for $400).
The savings are pretty significant and I recommend you buy it if you're looking to trim costs.
>decently upgradeableThe only bad part about this deal is this new Intel platform will only have an Arrow Lake refresh generation later this year, so your upgrade options are limited.
Add these items to the cart and you'll see the combo discount being applied. It has no affiliate links, I'm just sharing a deal.
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-ultra-7-265kf-arrow-lake-lga-1851-desktop-cpu-processor/p/N82E16819118507?Item=N82E16819118507
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-z890-aorus-elite-x-ice-atx-motherboards-intel-intel-z890-lga-1851/p/N82E16813145525?Item=N82E16813145525
The savings from those CPU components can help you buy a better video card.
I don't recommend you spend $1000 on a 5070 Ti (sane maximum should be around $850 for better models), but I'm just showing you how much room the CPU bundle gives you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kdLMQd
You can drop down to a 5070 12GB or a 5060 Ti 16GB. 5070 has a notably stronger GPU, but the 5060Ti has more VRAM.
It doesn't seem like you can find any 5070 12GB @ MSRP, Newegg is offering $90~160 store gift card credit for these purchases, but you don't know how soon they'll apply the store credit for you.
This 5060Ti 16GB model is a bit overpriced ($430 base MSRP), but there aren't that many better alternatives.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M64Pxr/asus-prime-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16-gb-video-card-prime-rtx5060ti-16g
I can share an AMD build if you're interested too.
If you want to save some/a lot of money, check out some Radeon 9060 XT 16GB and 9070/XT cards.
The graphics card market is a joke atm.
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>>105705190 (me)
changed a few things, power supply from 650 to 850 and im gonna return the h6 i bought and buy a h5 cause its too big
>>105705176That 5070 in the list will charge $700 pretax from his credit card btw.
He needs to buy that video card separately from Newegg, receive the store credit, and shop for additional parts at the store.
The unknown is how quickly Newegg provides that $150 store credit.
>>105705205it's fine
would also only suggest 3 front fans and a single back fan
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/36wxdb
I want to bring this box on visits to friends and LAN parties, use it for work at home and on the job, have it ready to run in the field anywhere suitable with power & accessories, and pretty much just dab on my friend who spent more than this on his iBuyPower 2x4070 Ryzen 5600 or whatever pffffft LMAO!
good morning sirs. I'm finally going to upgrade from my 1660s and 1080p. Is there any downsides to pairing a 5060ti or 9060 xt with a 4k monitor? I know I won't be able to run most games at native 4k but I'd run them at 1440p (or 4k with dlss? idk).
there are some okay deals on m28u monitors rn
>>105705216Thanks for the correction. That's scummy as hell.
>>105705219why? and for the h5 or h6?
Thank you guys so much !! I appreciate you all
>>105705205l
There's a Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3 available in the US/CA with new fans, I would get that instead.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/vZfV3C/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-v3-7084-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120se-v3
You don't need an 850W PSU for that build, but if you're planning to carry it over to a new system that's fine.
The rest looks fine.
>>105705237a 9060xt and 7600x will generate basically very little heat, you don't need 6 fans.
and I am pretty sure the gpu will still be able to suck air from the bottom mesh regardless without bottom fans
>>105705270any down sides to having more fans? or just noise
>>105705256>There's a Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3 available in the US/CA with new fans, I would get that instead.ok
>but if you're planning to carry it over to a new system that's fine.yeah i am
>>105705305what about the h6?
watching linus build pcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOC7-GPWxaU
so far Lian Li Lancool's rated the best
>>105705225I don't recommend this video card + monitor resolution if you're going to play a lot of competitive titles, watch/read some reviews to get an idea of the 4K performance.
The GPU in these cards is around the 3070Ti's strength + 16GB VRAM.
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>>105705190 (me)
i saw the 9600x is only 20 dollars more so i added that. Is updating the bios for a motherboard hard?
>>105705225if you don't mind 30-60fps with massive DLSS/FSR usage then sure
>>105705370No, you just have to follow the instructions carefully and be patient.
It's not bad on AM5 because AMD requires all B650 and higher tier boards to have an easy BIOS update feature.
There are video guides out there, search for something like "MSI AM5 BIOS Flash guide".
Should intake be on the bottom or on the front? What is better for thermals of 3x120mm on the bottom or on the front?
>>105705349Sounds like a waste of time when you can just open any of Steve Nexus's case reviews and skip to the charts.
>>105705432Sure but I like watching build videos. I wish Steve did more of them.
>>105700105 (OP)good 1080p ips 24in monitors to look out for?
i made the mistake of buying a VA 27in 1080p monitor
dont really care too much about refersh rate, my gpu can mostly handle 60 fps any way so i dont see any point in having a higher refresh rate but please feel free to correct my ignorance
Is the 5080 a "cope" card? Like you want performance, you're already spending an ass load for a 5080, why not just go to the 5090? Clearly money isn't an issue for you.
Who is this product for exactly?
>>105705485VA panels even on the cheaper side don't really smear anymore so either you got gyped hard and bought something ancient or the issues you're having aren't going to be fixed by another lcd screen.
>>105705624Be realistic
The 5080 is $1200-$1400 and the 5090 is $3000
It is a big difference it's more than double the price
>>105701064is does it works better than stock fans?
is teamgroup a reliable brand?
>>105705624its more about the pixel density, 1080 27 inch monitors are less sharp and this is exacerbated further in video games because of taa blur
>>105704233imagine paying 3k for a 5090 only for it to not be the best GPU you can get lmao
>>105705688who cares, works on my machine
>>105705668I am being realistic. If you can afford/are willing to spend $1200 for a toy you can afford/would be willing to spend $3000.
>>105705624the second tier card is always cope
even financially the top tier card makes more sense because it'll always have the best resale value
>>105705485Slightly old vid, but he tested some of the recommendations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYpYXlbn0rc
I'd look for reviews for the options below.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bp3NnQ/hp-omen-24-238-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-780d9aaaba
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3fzXsY/msi-g244pf-e2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g244pf-e2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mny8TW/asus-rog-strix-xg259cs-245-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-xg259cs
>>105705688I wouldn't mind buying one of their DDR5 T-Create kits.
>>105705688I got a teamgroup NVMe drive a year or so ago
still going strong
had some thumbdrives years ago and half of them had read errors
>"peel sticker off of backplane before first use"
>*peel it off*
>ESD event when my pinky drags across the backplane pulling off the final corner
>>105705624Most of the 5080 card owners who had to pay above MSRP have been coping that the price was justifiable because a manual OC can help the card nearly match a stock 4090's gaming performance.
>>105705130I'm burned out on oled. It's only good at a few things.
>>105700204Show the full HWInfo Summary.
>>105705786Was it a motherboard? Video card?
It should be okay, have fun building the PC.
>>105700323My 5090 is still the bottleneck in I think literally every newer game I've played, this is with an i5 at 1080p.
>>1057006574k is better on a 32" display. With a 27" 1440p is better.
>>105705835GPU, but everything else was open case no power cord plugged in ~1m away so technically it all could have been affected. ESD is a real PITA too because it can shorten lifespan so you won't see any affects until a few years later
>>105700401>Why is the 5080 so underclocked?NVIDIA doesn't want to spec the 5080 Super to use a higher-tier, costlier GPU (cut down GB202), so they left enough performance headroom in the GB203 chip.
>tfw comfy on AM4 waiting for AM6
>I will be skipping DDR5 entirely
>>1057058604k 27" pixel density is almost as dense as oled fanatics
>>105705883same except I'm not waiting for anything because I don't plan to ditch AM4 ever
>>105705872Isn't the overclocking headroom on the 5000 series the same for every card that isn't a 5090?
Like 15%ish for cards running cool being where it'll tap out?
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>>105705190just bought all my parts, imma go in person to buy the gpu tomorrow and return the h6 and buy the h5
>>105702558> 9950X3D on dry air> 2 kits of poser RAM with absurd specs> 250 bucks for a fucking keyboard but cheaps out on the GPUJust my humor.
>>105705925Yes and that's enough to spec out a super card. The 4080 and 4080S barely had a 2% difference in performance
>>105703000I assume it's a 5090 that justifies the outlay. My 4090 runs so cool on air that H2O makes no sense.
>>105705965Ackshually it was 1%
Linus has sold me on the Lancool 207
>>105705959>>105705965>>105705974That's why NVIDIA treated the 4080 Super as a price correction to the original's $1200.
If the 5080 Super gets 24GB GDDR7 VRAM, it could have a base MSRP of $1200~1300.
>>105705985>tied with first place on cable management>panel won't stay on if the cables bulge out too much (they will)absolute retards
Do you niggers think gpu prices are going to keep falling? What happened to drumpf literally murdering gaymer bros?
>>105703265Fewer PCIe lanes. Fewer M.2 slots, fewer/slower USB sockets. Nothing important if all you do is gaming.
>>105706025GPU prices will only get worse.
A fucking 5060Ti 16GB costs nearly $500.
>>105706025In what universe have prices dropped?
GPU prices have been sky rocketing since way before Trump
>>105705928Have fun building it.
During your first system boot-up, the memory training might take a while (2~5 minutes).
Let it finish and go to the boot screen.
>>105706036yeah, it's just odd to me how you'd include that in a "dream" setup
>>105706039>>1057060585070ti was like $1000 at some point.
>>105706059thanks, imma forget but ill be watching one of those how to build videos so i think ill be fine
>>105704478Yes. The result depends on the input, though.
Generally DLSS input provides the best FSR output.
>>105706072Rare sub-$900 5070Ti that isn't PNY/MSI/Gigabyte's base models.
B&H also gives you a tax credit if you use their CC.
>>105705190> 2TB HDD 7200rpmCome on, this is ridiculous. Imagine the noise for just 2TB of painfully slow storage!
You should only buy a HDD if you want/need 20TB not for 2TB.
>>105706097$870 is a good deal for that 5070 Ti.
PC is ded, will turn on but won’t give any signal to the monitor. Would replacing the motherboard be the easiest way to fix this?
>>105706235Motherboard could also be the issue, but you'll have to test the other parts.
Remove the video card from the PC and try booting with the CPU's integrated GPU if it has one.
Install the video card to another x16 PCIe slot on the board (if you can).
>>105702249idk i'd thought it was only a pcbg thing that attracts numbskull fanboys
friend asked me about rgb fans and setups but I dont know fucking shit about rgb slop nor do it myself, so I couldnt answer him
do people just get a hub, plug every fan into that and slap it into rgb header?
>>105700105 (OP)How's it mounted to the heatsink? Custom bracket?
>>105705687Always but it looks ugly because the default is zip ties
>>105706266didn't work, put the GPU back in, now it works again, I don't know what was going on but it's fixed so I thank you Anon.
>>1057064963d printed bracket
>>105706547what gpu is it? There are some cards (I think all older) that will refuse to work at x4, could still be something wrong with the slot.
>>105701254DLSS is overhyped and it's bad, if you can't run it native drop your settings
>>105700553that pic is funny because here the 9070 is pretty much the same price as a 5070Ti
how much does enabling WSL2 hurt performance?
Just so you know Nvidia's head of Global PR for Geforce just said GDDR7 is better for laptops and GDDR6 is better for desktops.
>>105706472in theory, yes
in practise hahahahahahahahaha
and that's before we even get to the software(s)
>>105706987Switch to PCIe 4 instead of 5, this problem has been solved already, you're not getting any noticeable performance difference on 5.0 anyway
>>105706987Also, learn to filter by date.
>>105706547Sometimes you just have to reseat the components, this fixes RAM-related issues too.
Glad it worked out.
what the fuck is the difference in these and why is the price delta so high?
recommendations for 1440p 240hz display?
>>105706987Will the 5080 super be like this too
>>105707022I would check reviews for these monitors.
Acer Acer Nitro XV272U W2bmiiprx ($230, best value)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K7ioTEieps (this might not be the exact model)
Gigabyte M27Q-X ($320)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q-x
LG UltraGear 27GR83Q-B ($355 from Beach Camera, Amazon Marketplace)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gr83q-b
Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQML1A ($370)
Last year's tier list by Techless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBtsyA2tvD4
I like the LG monitor, Beach Camera is also a legitimate business.
https://www.beachcamera.com/
M27Q was a commonly recommended 165Hz monitor when it sold below $300.
>>105707052Nah, it's the same GB203 chip with a different stock boost clock, power limit, and code name engraving.
The additional GDDR7 capacity isn't difficult to implement, some professional repairmen and XOCers have modded in higher capacity memory chips for the 3070 and other cards.
https://videocardz.com/newz/modded-geforce-rtx-3070-with-16gb-memory-gets-major-1-low-fps-boost
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gb203.g1073
Good luck buying one near MSRP when it launches.
>>105707073They'll just use 3gb chips, which they should have used to begin with
>>105707073In that case I will get one msrp, two years after launch then
>>105707062I'm probably going to get the acer nitro. it has freesync too. so why are the other ones more expensive? what feature do they have to warrant the higher price tag?
>>105700657>I just want minimal response times and ghostingIPS's are smeary and laggy and even the new 240hz one from LG is not fast, of which you have a grand total of 1 monitor to choose from
they are now competing with 240hz oleds which are effectively 360hz in lcd clarity once you account for the motion clarity, no 4k 360hz ips exist in this range and even if it did it would not refresh the pixels in the time window making it a true 360 display
so now you are relegated to 144-160hz IPS slop which I would assume you know would be inferior to 360hz
if what your claim is your goal you are taking a giant step down because of your autism and obsession about things
I mean you can get a cheapo 4k144-160 ips 27" slopper for like 300 bux which is crazy cheap like the gigabyte ones
but lettuce be real tea they are not competing against the 1k oled memes
>>105700767I am there are no other alternatives in the 42" range
LG oleds also now have the dithering meme apparently that fuck up pq
but they are still cheap
but if you really wanna tvmaxx you need to step up to 55" minimum for more brightness
>>105700806>C4 in game optimizer mode at max refresh>4.4ms input lag>>105701573>1920x1080>>105704377it's just you
>>105705624>VA panels even on the cheaper side don't really smear*smears in your way*
>>105706025as long as the usd keeps dropping it will improve for (Me)
>>105707022monitor market is a meme and volatile one retailer can have a monitor for more than 50% the cost easily for no apparent reason
>>105707138There could be less quality control. Some reports of colors appearing a bit greenish out of the box.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/13tjp4l/just_got_xv272u_w2bmiiprx_the_299_1440p_240hz/
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/13skqm5/monitor_acer_nitro_xv272u_w2bmiiprx_27_1440p/
https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=12859
Can the Nvidia 40 series work on Windows 7 or is it exclusively Windows 10+?
>>105707264Windows driver only works with 10 and 11.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/
You can get a free activation
>>105657591
>>105700883I have my c2 for two years and im fine
Moved back to desktop after 5 years with a laptop. Feels good man.
>>105707264stupid oversized cards
>>105707138The LG 27GR83Q-B has hardware color calibration support, better console compatibility (HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, 4K 120Hz through HDMI), and GSync Compatible certified by NVIDIA.
If you're planning to own this monitor for a long time (at least 6~8 years) I would pay the extra for the LG monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEv895dnoVY
>>105707476I want 1440p 240hz, not 4k, and I don't own--and will never own--a console.
>>105700382wtf is it a robobutt fagtoy?
>>105707512Still the better overall, it's the LG or the Gigabyte M27Q-X for the KVM.
The monitor isn't the component you want to budgetmaxx.
You stare at it when you're using the PC.
>>105707548so the advantage of the LG one is a built-in color calibrator? that's worth the $130?
>>105700382Ultrawide is a joke, you'll constantly be having to fuck around just to get games to look right. Not to mention you'll have really fucky burn in spots.
>>105707607I said Acer is more likely to have QC issues, you snarky shithead.
https://youtu.be/8K7ioTEieps?t=277
Mediocre response times @ 240Hz, subpar at lower refresh rates.
https://youtu.be/8K7ioTEieps?t=370
Extreme inverse ghosting compared to the M27Q-X
https://youtu.be/8K7ioTEieps?t=520
Imagine paying over $200 for that.
>>105707138These are trash:
>FreeSync>G-Sync>VRR>Adaptive-SyncThese are demigods:
>Scanline-Sync>Smooth-Sync
how is the aoc q27g3xmn monitor?
>>105707718It's fine but there's a newer model (Q27G40XMN) with over 3x the local dimming zones.
The sad thing about the new model is you need to be lucky to win the firmware lottery.
If your Q27G40XMN is part of the bad batch, you can't use the best local dimming zone setting (Strong) when you toggle on HDR.
What's the cheapest decent 4K OLED (that I can actually get in Europe)? I'm only getting one for the response times.
>>105707718Look yourself. Local dimming works, but expect some amount of bloom.
Matte coating.
>>105707743AOC AGON Pro AG326UD (165Hz)
Gigabyte AORUS FO32U2 (240Hz)
They're both QD-OLED monitors.
>>105707430big cards run cooler and quieter so i'm enjoying this trend
>>105707626FUD. ultrawide justworks in 99% of games
Should I make a new OP or just let this one slowly slide down?
It's not a very active general. I'm not going to post brand wars.
Let me know what I should improve in the OP. IK most of you guys don't care too much about it.
>>105707783just dont be biased and we're cool
>>105707783>not a very active generalIt depends on what time of day it is
Sometimes these fly by
But it's usually the same people shitting it up, not quality posts
>what I should improve in the OPI prefer images that have some kind of anime girl, doesn't matter if it's an illustration or case figurine
hokuto
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>>105707860>anime girlThis thread for 30 y old plus.
>>105703923>r3600+rx5600xt>set for years to comeI'm doing some Spring cleaning, and I have one of these to sell, but I can't figure the price.
It's a Sapphire Pulse 5600xt, from covid-era, the only card I could get at the time.
It's clean, nothing wrong with it. But it's also kind of wimpy, 6GiB vram, etc.
None of my family members or friends want it. Anyone who's interested in this kind of stuff already has something better.
Partly I feel like I should just make up a price, and whoever shows up to get the thing, just give it to them for free.
>day 227
>still haven't regret buying a 7800 XT
feels good mang
New thread, leave OP suggestions in the new thread.
>>105707954>>105707954>>105707954
>>105707900You might be able to get around $100 for it.
I'd try to sell it fast.
>>105707900I meant to attach the eBay sales history image too.
Solid card but you need to sell it fast before even fewer people want 6GB video cards.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=5600+xt+6gb&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&LH_ItemCondition=3000
>>105707743why don't you just check prices in your region
depends what you mean by decent
>>105707351I hope to join you some time later..... send help
>>105707316So we can assume that the 5000-cards will be the last ones that work on Win 10 right? So it would probably be smarter to get the 5070ti and use that for the next seven years so you don't have to use Win 11.
>>105704744Shut the fuck up sodomite you are always here with the same stupid dumb comment just kys
