FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
Usage: paste into Powershell, run.
irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>and Office?
Same method, use Ohook
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
>Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
>Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
>10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
>Manual version upgrades
IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7

W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
>Same as W10 version except:
>UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
>Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
>Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

Installing apps on LTSC
>use WinGet or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

W10/W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
>Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
>Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
>1.5-3 years support
>Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

Previously on /fwt/: >>105657591

love Windows 11 IoT LTSC
love Chris Titus Utility
'ate linux
simple as

One of my external HDDs started disconnecting and reconnecting a lot. Been using it on my main Windows 10 LTSC PC for over a year now and never had this issue. I did a disk check and found zero issues and checked with crystal disk and everything showed up ok. I checked device manager and notices an exclamation mark for my external drive. I tried updating and said windows already had the right driver so I tried disabling and then removing the driver and restarting my pc but still get the same exclamation mark. Nothing about installing a new device or anything when I plug it back in. Even the hardware ID doesn't even look right, I don't think this was the original name of this driver either.

I'm not sure what went wrong. Only thing different I've done in the last 24 hours since this post was install Malwarebytes since I've been going over a year without any protection(and surprise surprise it found nothing on my PC) but I remember it disconnecting and reconnecting once last night after it was installed as well.

All my files and stuff still work and are usable but I'm scare of it disconnecting as something could corrupt.

One of my external HDDs started disconnecting and reconnecting a lot. Been using it on my main Windows 10 LTSC PC for over a year now and never had this issue. I did a disk check and found zero issues and checked with crystal disk and everything showed up ok. I checked device manager and notices an exclamation mark for my external drive. I tried updating and said windows already had the right driver so I tried disabling and then removing the driver and restarting my pc but still get the same exclamation mark. Nothing about installing a new device or anything when I plug it back in. I tried it on my old laptop and it has zero issues so I'm not sure what went wrong.

Only thing different I've done in the last 24 hours since this post was install Malwarebytes since I've been going over a year without any protection(and surprise surprise it found nothing on my PC) but I remember it disconnecting and reconnecting once last night after it was installed as well.

After playing around with my external HDD on my laptop I noticed the driver file on my laptop is missing on my main PC. I figured copying the driver file from it to my main PC would do the trick but as soon as I move it back to my PC I get more errors saying it was improperly dismounted forcing me to do another check with disk check. I'm really starting to think its Malwarebytes that fucked everything up.

>>105708534
Also the old laptop I'm using is running Windows 7 so I'm not sure if the same driver file will work.

>>105708534
Malwarebytes is kinda junky these days and not like how it use to be. It tries to be a whole "suite" now messing with things it shouldn't be touching, it's only real use in installing it, running a scan, then uninstalling it.
If you remove Malwarebytes stuff will probably start working normally again.

>>105708697
I doubt it'll fix anything after fucking up my PC. I tried troubleshooting and it says it couldn't find a driver, so I tried selecting the top option and it said it couldn't identify the problem.

I moved the driver file from a Windows 7 laptop to my main Win 10 PC and it still doesn't recognize the driver file. Its basically just a single .sys, this is honestly fucked up. I'm scared to try my other external HDDs.

>>105708906
Try SDIO?

>>105709106
I just installed it. At first I chose the simple option of looking at my PC for drivers and said it couldn't find any drivers for my external HDD. So right now I'm downloading the full packs so its probably going to take awhile.

>>105707380
based

>>105708534
When it comes to external drives, it's not usually the drive giving up - it's either the cable, or the USB<->SATA bridge inside it. When you finally get pissed off at it enough to shuck the drive, you find it works perfectly connected directly to a SATA interface (assuming no manufacturer shenanigans).
This is why I don't buy external drives off the shelf: I just buy Asmedia 2115-based USB<->SATA bridges/drive cases off eGay (to avoid shenanigans), and plug real SATA drives into them.
This isn't recommended to the /g/eneral populace as you lot are poor, and this is a more expensive way of doing it, but it means you can just swap your drive to another bridge/case if they goes tits up.
>define "shenanigans" plz anon
Some external drive manufacturers have started putting the USB<->SATA bridge DIRECTLY on the logic board of the drive: these are annoyingly common on 2.5" external drives, as they can run directly from the 5 volts provided by the USB cord - avoid such drives like an angry Terminator when your surname is Connor (though there's often a way to break out a real SATA interface if you are REALLY good with a soldering iron).
There are also retarded bridge chips that only support up to 2^32 LBAs, and as such (would normally) only support up to 2TB drives. However, to be "clever", many of these can fake 4KB sectors, to allow connecting drives up to 16TB in capacity. This completely scrambles your data if the drive is then plugged into an ordinary SATA interface where it's "true" sector size (almost always "logically" 512 bytes) is exposed - again, avoid interfaces like this, and get an AS2115 instead, which supports 48-bit LBAs, and as such can support drives of up to 2^48 512 byte (logical) sectors - or 128 petabytes.

>>105710341
Yeah I've noticed these externals are really shitty made especially these cables. These WD ones heat up pretty bad too when moving large files or heavy use and my dumb ass keeps buying them. The drive I'm using is like a 4TB WD drive that's about a few years older than my main PC but I also remember having problems with it and other externals on my laptop. You move it or the laptop just an inch and it disconnects and reconnects and had to be perfectly still when using them(which was hard for me because I was moving around a lot).

Now that I think about it, I may have noticed the sudden disconnecting and reconnecting earlier on my PC which sits perfectly still so nothing could have moved it but I don't think my drivers were showing up with errors. It'd happen as soon as I plug it in like a double tap or the device plugged in window's sound.

I tried switching usb cables and I tried different front usb ports, both of which are USB 3.0, but still get the same issue. I won't know if its driver related until SDIO finish downloading all the packs yet. I also uninstalled Malwarebytes but I need to restart my PC in order for it to take affect.

>>105708697
Lol, this is what I've been doing couple of times few months back when I was getting paranoid. Install, scan, uninstall.
Malwarebytes these days could be classified as malware.

In the past it was somewhat better than Defender. I had an infestation 8 years ago and while defender did not see anything MB did. (was stupid with audio software keygens).

>>105711649
I learned of this portable AV meant to run off a USB called Emsisoft Emergency Kit recently which seems very highly rated. Basically uses Bitdefender's scanner/database mixed with its own one, and Bitdefender is considered one of the best free offerings these days.

>>105711711
Thanks, that'll come handy.

I love Windows!

>>105712389
Things have gone so far in terms of enshittification that NT 4.0 and others are looking futuristic.

>>105712389
>NT 5.0
I was wondering if I was crazy but apparently that's the pre-release version of 2000

I have an issue with Windows 10 that I can't quite figure out.
My PC frequently has a weird type of crash where everything just sort of locks up, then I have to do a hard reset to unfuck it.
If a video or something is on screen, it will keep playing, but clicking buttons just stops working and it becomes unusable.
It does not bluescreen or anything. It's just a slow motion freeze.

I thought at first that this was a memory problem and I replaced my RAM, but that didn't help.

Any advice on how to pinpoint what's causing this?

>>105713822
Uhh maybe USB port is short-circuiting. Sometimes the connector can bend out of place or something.

>>105713846
When I say it doesn't work I don't mean I'm incapable of clicking them. I can still move my mouse around in the "frozen" state.
It's very strange.
Like I could click on the start menu (using openshell) and I'd see the UI element click down, and maybe the menu would pop up, but then it would become unresponsive to any kind of input.

>>105713822
weird, such behavior would make Windows blue screen immediately, since you're using openshell (and maybe other tweaks?) it could also mean that it screwed something up with the UI and that's why it becomes unresponsive to UI elements while other stuff keeps working. Not 100% sure that's the reason but I bet on that more than hardware failure or Windows corruption

Can I get a Windows 9X style taskbar with StartIsBack++ or do I need to use Retrobar?

>>105714834
Would a problem with Openshell cause the same issue with other programs though? The start menu was just an example. It's everything. I could click a tab in firefox and I might get some kind of visual feedback like the selected tab at the top of the screen changing, but nothing would change otherwise.

How can I go about checking for Windows corruption?

>>105707358 (OP)

>>105715422
omg!

I've seen people here discuss Scoop as a nice way to install apps portably so I've been trying it out lately, but even in the main bucket, apps have no requirement to actually be portable right? files are still created in appdata

>>105713822 (dubs)
When did it exactly start to happen? Can you correlate the moment with something that you may have done in the PC (say, some wonky software or driver that might be the cause) before the first symptoms? Check the Event Viewer logs - if some weird shit happened, it shall be duly logged, hopefully. Check the "Administrative Events" view first.
Do you have a habit of opening too much applications (or, to simplify this example: too many browser windows and tabs?). That's the easiest way to exhaust all of that virtual memory (physical + pagefile). It's also possible that some application or driver might cause a memory leak.
>I thought at first that this was a memory problem and I replaced my RAM, but that didn't help.
Now how did you conduct this was a memory problem at first? Did Memtest86+ fail a pass with the previous modules? How can you be sure the replacement modules aren't also potentially faulty?

What's your hardware specs, btw?

>>105707358 (OP)
>>105715422
I wannacry

is there a way to do nvcleaninstall offline? i'm gonna reinstall my OS tonight and I wanna download everything ahead of time so the install is nice and smooth

also is there an equivalent tool for AMD, i have an 9900x ideally i'd have a very minimal driver for that just so i can use the encoding features

>>105715913
I think it began happening some time after I cloned my hard drive.

>Check the Event Viewer logs - if some weird shit happened, it shall be duly logged, hopefully. Check the "Administrative Events" view first.
Noted. I'll do this the next time it locks up.

>Did Memtest86+ fail a pass with the previous modules?
Yes. Tbh I never tested the new ones but I probably should.

>specs
i5-11600K
3070 TI
32gb DDR4 RAM

I hate you for associating a cat, a living creature, with a Microsoft shill thread. The cat didn't have a say in this. Every time I see that cat I feel hatred towards it by proxy, even though it didn't do anything bad. TMD.

>>105716812
?

>>105716255
AMD does not need any third party hacks to install just the bare drivers without control panel.

>>105716812
>>105717105
Aww, you butt hurt chumps are so cute! :3

Also, I hate cats anyway! :c

Rabbits > Chinchillas > Cats.

DEAL WITH IT!

>>105717330
meds

>>105707358 (OP)
How can I have an up to date LTSC ISO? I have slow internet and LTSC seems to hang after 30 minutes in the restarting phase.

Wanted to encrypt my W10 with TrueCrypt but it seems it won't work on GPT. What should I use now? Veracrypt?

>>105718640
Veracrypt is the go-to for full encryption these days if you aren't using Bitlocker.

>>105718640
TrueCrypt has been obsolete for over 10 years now. Been so long I forgot the reason why. I think the dev abandon it or something. Veracrypt is what everyone moved to.

>>105718700
And Veracrypt is a fork of it.

>>105718700
Wasn't it compromised? Dev had to put backdoors so he just quit.

>>105718640
>but it seems it won't work on GPT
Yeah no wonder
https://www.truecrypt.org/

>last update 2012

I remember using it on my old XP machine which was surprisingly still kicking until 2014

So I>>105708534 finished downloading that large driver packs for SDIO. What do I do, just search for each hardware ID and see if it comes up with anything? Also ignore the mouse driver, that was just some shitty mouse I temporarily used that came with an old DVR so there's no surprise it wouldn't find anything for it.

>>105708534
Can it be just the connecting cable failing?

Any updates on win 8.1 I should avoid and updates that are recommended?

>>105719160
Use Embedded 8.1 Industry Enterprise with the ESU updates enabled via MAS to get the very last cumulative updates 8.1 got.

>>105717105
He's just another "if you don't parrot the exact opinions I got from a Reddit thread, you're an ebil nazi and must die" retard, like many others that are being deported.

>>105719175
Yeah to late for that, not going to reinstall again untill really needed like the system failing.

>>105707380
That's cool.
Personally I've been liking the W11 IoT edition (yes the full bloated one) I don't see any performance difference from my old W10 Education. Not too annoying actually.
I still prefer W10 tho. I hope ms finally fixes the stupid jeet UI with windows 12.

>>105719453
25H2 is apparently gonna be focused on making 11 much smoother then it currently is

>>105719464
It makes sense. Windows 11 is pretty much feature-complete at this point, so onward to optimization. We've seen it many times before: 3.0->3.1, 2000->XP, Vista->7.

>>105707358 (OP)
>Usage: paste into Powershell, run.
Piping random scripts from the internet directly into the shell is not a good practice if you have any concern about security!

>>105720081
General practice yes, but it's fine here.
You can put that IRL into a browser and it shows what the script does, which is nothing malicious.

>>105720081
It's basically a bootstrap to the actual MAS_AIO.cmd script:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/67abcd0c8925832fcf4365b9cf3706ab6fbf8571/MAS/All-In-One-Version-KL/MAS_AIO.cmd
Have fun checking, anon.

>>105720333
With the main reason to run it through the irm command being that it randomizes the hash of the script, making Defender ignore it.
Also in how it runs it from Temp and deletes itself when finished with.

>>105707380
I formatted my 2022 install of 10 LTSC because the system partition space was filled with junk I couldn't find. 11 LTSC is perfectly fine but not out of the box, like 10 LTSC
You need:
-winutil
-explorer patcher
only then W11 is actually good.

>>105720333
Need a walkthrough of the whole thing!
Nobody actually checks.

>>105720826
I thought ni/g/s can read.

>>105717330
nakaԁashi noa-chan

>>105720678
Well it isn't like 10/11 Enterprise are spic and span out the box either. You still need to run a tool like ShutUp10 on it before it feels not as icky.

>>105722525
never used them
my experience was windows 10 home, pro and ltsc after coming from w7

>truecrypt can't encrypt gpt system drive
>veracrypt won't open my truecrypt partitions
hate it all

I'm starting to suspect these weird issues are related to Privacy.Sexy - this was the only thing I ever ran besides OOSU and setting few gpedit policies manually.
Well not going to reinstall as it is not system breaking but annoying for sure.
I'd suggest do not run privacy.sexy it's bit too autistic unless you want to go through every single entry and manually confirm if it's fine or not.

recommended tool for unfucking W11? I've seen a bunch of names googling solutions to problems but I'm not familiar with what is jeet spyware and what is a safe registry editing GUI

things I want to fix
>use small icons / half height taskbar
>square corners
>disable smooth scrolling in notepad
>remove web search in start menu
>remove "recommended" in start menu (not depopulate it, don't even show the field)
>normal context menu without having to hold shift

also is there a way to intentionally overlap windows in a snap layout? I have a bunch of shit I keep open on my second screen but some of the windows I only have the 'display' portion visible and let other windows cover the controls. If I want to engage with it I will click it and it comes to the front, and when I'm done I click the normally overlaying window again to get back to my regular view

>>105723791
Look into Winaero Tweaker and ShutUp10

>>105723791
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/releases
Some of the stuff you can disable via settings once you are more familiar with this shit.

>>105723791
Hide recommended is unfortunately a regedit tweak

>Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer]
"HideRecommendedSection"=dword:00000001

>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PolicyManager\current\device\Education]
"IsEducationEnvironment"=dword:00000001

>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PolicyManager\current\device\Start]
"HideRecommendedSection"=dword:00000001

>>105723791
FancyZones powertoy will override snap and let you do what you want

Why do I see people using 11 ltsc over an enterprise edition? Am I missing something? I don't mean niche use cases either I'm talking like regular people like on /v/.

>>105724480
Why not? I just want a basic Windows experience, whatever that is. I still remember NT 4.0. Okay nothing worked on it but I needed reinstall it when Maya 1.0 was released for Windows.
I already have a license and if I changed it using MAS it's not like MS is losing any money anyway.

>>105724480
In the case of W10 IoT LTSC, it's to stay on W10 with security updates for as long as possible
But yeah, I think a lot of W11 LTSC users fell for the meme that LTSC is magically better in every way (and they'll probably update to the next LTSC the week it drops, defeating the point of LTSC)

>>105724873
>the point of LTSC
the biggest complain for the last 10 years is that consoomer trash editions including enterprise have a lifespan of 2 years then it force updoots you whether you like it or not
LTSC is the only edition of windows that does not force upgrade your edition, ever
it will EoL and never once ask or even remind you to upgrade because it doesnt exist unless you manually mount an ISO and run setup.exe
dumb nigger

>>105725100
>the anti updoot argument
Yet no IoT LTSC user here is on a release older than 2021 even though they're still supported

>>105725100
be wary of this anon, he is lying to you, i've been using non-LTSC enterprise and it turns off updates just fine, it also has more than 2 years of a life span, he is living in the W10 Enterprise past to fit his world view rather than accept change

The real reason you see people use LTSC over Enterprise is because it comes with less bloat and feature updates, and even though the bloat on regular versions is easily removed, it doesn't actually slow down the machine because it isn't running, this nuance is lost on /v/, they see less bloat as equivalent to better performance, but in reality less bloat just means more storage space

>>105724480
>like regular people like on /v/.

>>105725177
my htpc downstairs is still on 2019 and still will be when it EoLs
my main machine would still be on 2019 if i hadnt built a new machine last year
cope harder updooter

>>105719175
I just checked again, but evey version of Win 8/8.1 all were supported untill 2023 at the most you sure you're not mistaken Windows Server 2012 R2?

>>105725508
>my main machine would still be on 2019 if i hadnt built a new machine last year
So it's literally just out of laziness and you always install the latest version, got it

>>105707358 (OP)
I've been on Linux (Pop_OS) for almost a year now. It works, it's light, but it also lacks a ton of quality of life things that make working on a computer a bliss (QoL that windows has).

So my question is this: if I install Win 11 Enterprise LTSC in yurop, debloat with whatever tools are out there, and change the shitterrible right-click popup menus that win 11 ships with natively, will it be a good OS?

>>105726029
yeah sure, why not.

>>105726049
>why not
Because I heard bad shit about Win 11 like UI lag and unremovable telemetry?

>>105726067
In my experience the UI doesn't lag, it functions on my machine the speed as W10, idk about unremovable telemetry, I don't try to remove it all.

>>105719175
>>105725582

>>105726273
Ah I see, still it's only 1 year, probably doesn't have anything considerable I'd wager

>>105725244
You know what I mean. When I go there I see people talking about using 11 LTSC but almost never anyone mentioning using an enterprise edition instead. Especially since whenever I see someone bitch about 11 its almost always someone using a non enterprise/LTSC edition like a moron.

I'm sure there are valid use cases for 11 LTSC over enterprise but it seems like most of these people are just the blind leading the blind and doing it because they don't know any better.

I updated my BIOS and changed my RAM speed and now I've lost my Windows activation. Error code: 0xC0Ea000A. Should I run the script in the OP again?

>>105728962
yeah

>>105729028
Thank you

>>105724480
LTSC -is- Enterprise, baka

>>105725183
I'm using coomsoomer Pro, and it turns off updates just fine. Telemetry has a tragic accident when it hits Windows Firewall (no, there's no magic delusional "bypass firewall" marker for telemetry packets) - and this applies to ALL telemetry, not just Windows' which is (only partially) stopped by the EnableTelemetry registry value.
The "LTSC is a panacea that will solve all my problems" view is negatively correlated with IQ, and positively with laziness. Hence it's popularity on /g/.

every time i start my PC im getting like "cursor lag" where when i hover my cursor across say the start page tiles they highlight with a terrible delay. sort of like extremely low FPS

but as soon as i open a game in fullscreen it stops the issue even after closing the game

what the fuck is happening

>>105729588
>he still uses a shitty Pentium 3 and a shitty Voodoo 3!
>in the year 2025!
It's time for you to upgrade your dinosaur "Gaming PC".

>>105729613
i got a R5 2600 and RX580
im assuming you replied to the wrong post

>>105709106
>>105718826
None of the drivers are on SDIO. What the fuck? Even searching microsoft page come up with nothing. Do I really need to take my chances with google?

>>105729668
No, I actually replied to the correct post, you butt hurt silly boy! :3

I'm just messing with you! That's all. ;p

>>105729960
this thread has friendly in the title

>>105729588
get cpu and gpu-z and see what your clocks are doing, sounds like it is stuck at very low clocks on desktop until starting the game kicks it out of it

also why is there a retarded animepedo shitting up the thread?

a client's computer has come in that's in s mode. how do i get it out of s mode without signing in?

>>105730225
You change an install's S-Mode status via a registry DWORD. Go into the recovery options via restarting while holding Shift and then go into the advanced options and open a command prompt to run regedit. Basically click on LOCAL_SYSTEM, then load the C:\ drive's SYSTEM hive from Windows\system32\config (name it something like offlineSYSTEM), then enter it and go to ControlSet001\Control\CI\Policy then change the DWORD SkuPolicyRequired from 1 to 0. Then click on offlineSYSTEM and unload the hive from the file tab menu. Then close regedit and the prompt then shut down the PC. When you boot it again, S-Mode should now be disabled.

>>105730225
>>105730279
Or, far simpler:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307

>>105730317
Well in this case anon would need to sign in to the client's account to get the MS Store page to disable S-Mode that way.

>>105729588
when I had this problem it was gsync/freesync/vrr. something in the background is causing the monitor to change to low hz. when you enter fullscreen you're telling the monitor to ignore the background.

>>105730329
I missed the "without signing in?" part. My bad.

>>105730070
It's friendly bullying. :^)

>>105718007
holy shit... he jumped over an entire office chair! that's impressive!!

>>105726087
>idk about unremovable telemetry, I don't try to remove it all

>>105708697
Keeping Malwarebytes installed is fine as long as you set it to not run at startup. It will just sit there until you need it again. Letting your free trial expire and active protection get disabled also prevents it from messing stuff up on its own.

>>105713822
One of my computers I got for free from a dumpster would do something like this where I would be using it happy and fine and all of a sudden I would hear the drive spin down and stop and then the system would slowly lock up as it tried to access data that was no longer there due to the drive stopping. Whatever was currently going would keep working for a while due to it being loaded into RAM but if I tried to open new windows or programs it would just do nothing until it got to the point that nothing would respond to input and I'd have to hard reset it. The only workable fix was to quickly restart it when I heard the drive power down before it became unusable and it would be fine again upon restart. This issue was most common if I left the machine powered on and idling for a half hour or more. It was fine if it was transferring data and the drive was spinning but as soon as the transfer was done and it would idle there was a good chance the drive would just stop eventually.

I never found the cause of this as the hard drive was in good health and had no errors, so I just assumed it was a motherboard issue and just ignored it because it was a rare issue that would only occur occasionally. Eventually I cycled that tower out with a different one which had no issues.

If this sounds familiar to you then check your motherboard or something. Whatever is responsible for powering and running your drive may be dropping out but idk for sure. My PC that did this was a Dell Vostro if that helps.

It's a bit of a roundabout solution but I found out you can get past the mandatory Win11 Microsoft account creation on a new computer or install by downgrading to Win10, making a local account there, then just upgrading to Win11 after that. All you need is a Win10 boot iso.

Came across this because I originally downgraded my work laptop from 11 to 10 because I didn't want to use 11, but I just updated it back to 11 for supported software reasons.

>>105731127
I mean you can always just use the oobe\bypassnro script via the shift+f10 command prompt or just use a Rufus installer that has the registry keys already set to bypass the forced online connection, but if your method worked it worked.

>>105731136
Yeah that is probably the better option but I was pleasantly surprised when I skipped the Microsoft account requirement during this upgrade because of what I did, and I'm pretty sure most computer geeks already have a backup Win10 boot device.

Where can one get a full version of startisback for Win 8.1?

Hi sirs, I currently use Win 10 IoT LTSC, and I love it.
I'm thinking of trying out Windows 11. Should I use Windows 11 Education + winutil/microwin or Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC?
I heard from this thread that 25H2 will improve Windows 11, your thoughts?

>>105731343
Try IoT LTSC 2024. You can in-place upgrade to it from your current IoT LTSC 2021 system.

>>105731154
Computer geeks simply know what registry value bypassnro, Rufus etc. set.

>>105731343
Welcome, Windows-Sir!

>>105731362
Yeah, the registry that oobe\bypassnro changes is
>HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE
>Then adding the DWORD BypassNRO and setting the value to 1
You can just open regedit within the OOBE or add it with a reg command then just use the shutdown command to restart the system. So even with the news/rumors that the script is being removed, you can still do it very easily.

>>105731343
Just wait until 25H2 comes out and try that out using Enterprise.

>fresh install of win11 home 23h2
>wu patches and reboot
>install latest firefox
>firefox touchpad scroll is silky smooth
>do nothing else
>use system later in the day
>touchpad scroll is choppy bullshit
>do nothing
>use system later in the day
>touchpad scroll is silky smooth again
Linux never pulled this shit.
What the hell is going on?

>>105731557
>Linux never pulled this shit.
Because your touchpad never worked at all on Linux

>>105731557
I don't know. It's all kinds of fucked up.

>>105726067
schizo post

>>105731792
>>105726049
Thread is supposed to be friendly, and here I am getting troll responses... what do I do bros

>>105731792
Funny anecdote from unrelated thing - people who make cheats for Call of Duty know that they are using win32api to take periodic screenshots along with telemetry data.
You can hook the call and insert porn image instead of screenshot and someone will see that instead.

>>105731711
Your mum never works. Except when she's with me.

>>105731760
I'm going back to 10
And I'm tired of pretending I'm not

>>105731862
Correct, she's been dead for 15 years.
She died laughing when she saw your tiny, baby-duck retard dick.

>>105731862
I kind of like W11 but it's not solid experience. I have avoided fucking it via regedit things etc but this is still my experience.
I'm not going back to W10 because games especially feel snappier with less input lag and memory management is better.
But it's kind of embarrassing for Microsoft after all these years. Creating a solid experience should not be a problem at this point.

>>105731853
Kek, and just when I thought CoD NPCs couldn't destroy their credibility further.

>>105731883
how is memory management better? shit feels like it's bloatmaxxing but i haven't done any objective tests

>>105731919
You just know this anon mentally skipped the word "management", and so went straight to "b-but "in use" number in task manager bigger."

>>105731919
>>105731930
Memory use is more aggressive - therefore it's better. Maybe it's an illusion. Also, if you have tons of ram it might not be the same what it is for me (16gb pajeet tier).

>>105731889
No it's a common thing with many games, they take automatic screenshots to detect overlays and such. Not sure when these are actually checked out by humans, maybe when someone gets initially banned some indian call center worker is forced to look at the screenshots... CoD is a popular example.

>>105731930
i literally went straight to my fee-fees you illiterate chud

What's the /fwt/ recommended backup solution? Windows file versioning is pretty buggy and I don't want to keep robocopy-ing over hundreds of gigabytes of data every time I make a backup just to be able to keep old versions of files

>>105732751
Syncthing is an easy way to sync files/folders between devices. FreeFileSync is also good.

>>105707358 (OP)
>>105715422
Wow.../fwt/ is supported by uni....the strongest....linuxbros...

>>105732921
Chicken Boy uses Windows on his PCs... Linuxbros in shambles

The obscure registry hack of the day is...
>rolls dice
"Promote 'alternative' storage drivers' StartType at boot depending on boot scenario"
REGEDIT4

; This is actually the magic behind Windows To Go. By default, Windows (or
; more precisely, the Windows Boot Manager) starts up your 'storage miniport'
; drivers (for SATA, NVMe, whatever) marked boot-start, then the NT kernel
; starts up and looks around for the boot volume... and bugchecks with a STOP
; 0x7B error if it can't find it. Practically everybody who has used Windows 7
; or earlier has seen this happen at some point.
;
; While many hacks have existed over the years to boot Windows from 'alternative'
; types of devices, none of them have been particularly reliable and, of course,
; were completely unsupported.
;
; Microsoft solved (many of) these problems in Windows 8, by allowing BOOTMGR
; (yes, it does it THAT early in startup, that the NT kernel hasn't taken control yet)
; to 'promote' - that is, start of its own volition - additional storage miniport drivers
; if it can't find the boot volume after starting all the drivers marked as boot-start in
; the registry. This is actually why STOP 0x7B blue screens are far less common on
; Windows 8 and later: BOOTMGR has also been rewritten to always promote storage
; miniport drivers that can back fixed drives, such as IDE, SATA, NVMe, SCSI, SAS, etc.
;
; However (and here's the WtG magic), BOOTMGR can be configured to promote
; additional drivers, such as those that support networking, USB, SD card readers,
; and VHD[X] Native Boot. This enables all of those through the BootDriverFlags
; registry value, (hopefully) allowing a Windows install configured this way to start
; up from any of the aforementioned media types.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]
"BootDriverFlags"=dword:0000001f

>>105732976
The registry being so easy to mess with is cool and good

>>105707358 (OP)
I know the OP recommends against using Windows 11, but I've been considering trying it out just for fun and was wondering if it's possible to achieve an old-style taskbar in it like in picrelated. Not necessarily in the sense of making the theme look like Windows 9x, but in the sense of having small taskbar buttons with labels and the same width for each taskbar button. I don't feel like changing the workflow I've established for myself over the past 20 years, so it'd be cool if I could at least get the taskbar on the "latest and greatest" to behave the way I'm used to.

>>105733735
It's just the OP themselves being a little bitch baby about 11. If someone changes it they change it right back.
If you'd like an old style taskbar look into RetroBar. Then look into OpenShell for an old style Start menu.

How do I enable ESU on Windows 10? I've accumulated 1000 MS rewards points already.

>>105733889
>What /fwt/ does
Use Enterprise (or change to Enterprise) and activate ESU with MAS's TSforge module

>>105733905
I thought consumer Windows was also eligible?

>>105733915
Home/Pro gets 1 more year. Enterprise/Education gets 3 years.

>>105733748
Thanks for the recommendations, anon-kun. Retrobar looks just like what I was looking for, hopefully it won't clash with all the old shit that I use for my creative work.

>>105733919
Do I have to sign in with a Microsoft account in order to see the enrolment thingy in Windows update? It's not showing up for me.

>>105733955
Like I said, it would be easier for you to change your edition to Enterprise with MAS, re-activate with MAS as well, then enable the ESU through TSforge. I literally have no idea about the "legit" way to do it.

>>105733968
I don't want to reinstall Windows 10 again. If I still can't get into ESU after October then I'm switching to Manjaro.

>>105734188
Windows has been able to hotswap editions since like 7/8.1. You don't need to re-install anything.

Are there any updates for Win 8.1 I should avoid besides KB3035583? Any telemetry ones disguised as security?

>>105734276
LOL ducks are fucking stupid. You've gotten CUs for years just like Windows 10. Every "telemetry update" you think you're leet for not installing is actually included in the latest CU you installed.

>>105734292
calm down patel, your shitting yourself

>>105734276
It's amazing how stupid /g/ is. For the last fucking time, the telemetry updates have been included in CUs for years now.

>>105734276
As others have mentioned, all Windows 8.1 (and 8, and 7) updates since mid-2017 include the telemetry updates.
Don't know how so many people don't know/deliberately ignore this fact.

>>105734313
Patel poop is coming out of your asshole

>>105734339
>others
1 samefag

also I downloaded and installed the last Win 8.1 iso but if that is true what you say, why don't I see any Win 10 upgrader things in the OS?

>>105734276
These "hide telemetry updates" lists don't really make sense anymore, ever since MSFT introduced the cumulative update model for earlier Windows systems in 2017-ish.
So if you are installing monthly rollups (which is what Windows Update offers), packages from these updates will already be bundled.
If you were aware, you could stick to installing security-only updates (non-cumulative) that you would download manually from the Update Catalog, but there was some instance when they included the telemetry components within them (accidentally or not, you be the judge), so it doesn't really make sense.
It makes sense if, for some goddamn reason, the update client somehow still offers updates mentioned in these lists, especially if you're the world's unluckiest bastard that had the GWX update offered. These updates either have been long superseded by these rollups, not plainly offered anymore or dormant ever since the year-round free upgrade offer expired, so you may just hide them.

Now, since I'm not some faggot that will tell you to suck it up and deal with it, you can still neutralize these components.
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000012-neutralize-telemetry-sustain-win-7-8-1-monthly-rollup-model/

>>105735465
Just wandering, but when you have these Windows with updates discs, will these updates show up in the list of installed updates?

I recently got pic related for around $2.5k after getting a nice deal from microcenter. only reason I got it is because I'm going abroad and want a functional desktop replacement. that being said, how do I debloat this thing? should I upgrade the win11 home to LTSC? any other recs would be appreciated

>>105735554
>Just wandering, but when you have these Windows with updates discs, will these updates show up in the list of installed updates?
I assume we're talking customized Windows images that you'd encounter in the warez sites and torrent trackers.
That depends on the author's own volition: whether he'll slipstream all the updates - including ones that are known to add telemetry components, or whether he'll exclude them - providing a list of these updates for the end-user to hide after checking for available updates.
But like it was mentioned earlier - monthly rollups already include packages from earlier updates that introduce telemetry components from W10, unless the author took extra steps to eviscerate them.

>off by one
no quads for you, you poor bastard.

>>105733955
>>105734188
You don't need to re-install anything
Use MAS to switch to Enterprise
Then use MAS to activate ESU with TSforge

>>105737314
Massgrave like in the OP links

>>105737515
Can you change normal 8.1 Enterprise to Industry Embed Enterprise?

>>105738043
>Can you change normal 8.1 Enterprise to Industry Embed Enterprise?
No idea
Just run MAS and it'll tell you the editions you can switch to

>>105736993
>debloating
>2025
Don't do it, man!

You're going to regret it just like this guy did!

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105657591/#105706702

JUST ENJOY USING YOUR COMPUTER! If a /g/ tard tells you to do something that is stupid, do the exact opposite of that!

>>105736993
>how do I debloat this thing? should I upgrade the win11 home to LTSC?
If you have to ask these questions all you should probably do is switch to Enterprise with MAS
LTSC won't magically make your machine faster. Even Massgrave, the authors of MAS say so

could someone please dumb it down for me, what this SHA-256 is?

do I need whatever it is in order to install the Windows 10 IoT LTSC version of the OS?

>>105738925
lmao

>>105738929
please
I'm not very smart
and Im completely ignorant to the topic at hand

>>105738925
It's called a hash. Every file has a hash that shows the same number every time it's checked. If the number is changed that means the file has been altered. If you seriously didn't know this and are on /g/ I just dunno what to say.

>>105738925
If you're asking this question you shouldn't be installing from a non-Microsoft source to begin with and you probably have no need for 10 LTSC.

>>105738939
>>105738957
I care about personal privacy and having control of my computer, even though I'm not very good with computers. I think that's a reasonable position.

I don't expect everyone that wants to have a well-engineered, well-built house to know everything about civil and structural engineering. They still deserve a good product that doesn't fuck them, even if they don't actually understand the intricacies that make up that home.

>>105738978
The SHA-256 hash is provided instead of a download link because OP is too much of a pussy to provide an actual link.
You can find an official Windows 10 IoT LTSC iso on massgrave.dev. You also activate Windows with massgrave.dev. Once installed, update Windows, make sure your drivers are present in Device Manager, then you can use WPD and Chris Titus' winutil to make it more private.
After that, you are free to do whatever you want with your computer.

Also, in the OOBE (the setup screen post-install), you may be asked to sign into a Microsoft account. Don't do this, and click "Domain join instead" (in the bottom left)

>>105738925
It's just a hashing algorithm.
A hash is just a unique value created by a mathematical algorithm. It's used to verify that information hasn't been changed which is useful for security/privacy and troubleshooting/debugging.
If the data has been changed in any way, no matter how small, it will have a different hash.
So you can verify that you've downloaded the full file with no malicious or unintended modifications by taking the hash of what you've downloaded, and comparing it with the hash on the website.

You don't *need* to check the hash of anything you download, but it's not a bad habit to get into if you care about security. Generally files with large sizes are hosted on unofficial mirrors, and bad actors could try to upload their own compromised files into those mirrors, or make their own mirror to host those compromised files.
I would definitely do it for any important software like your operating system. Windows PowerShell should come with commands for checking the hash of a file, look up how to use them.

>>105739253
henlo fren

/v/ says security and updates don't matter and you can stick to Windows 7. So why should I install 10 or 11?
>>>/v/713932889

>>105739462
/v/ is stupid, who knew

10 IoT LTSC has graphical glitches on my hardware but it never used to. It's not the graphics card driver as this hasn't changed for years. Even upgrading it to the latest doesn't help.

The problem is when you enter Task View (win+tab), a 1-4 pixel line remains along the top of the Taskbar from whatever was drawn there previously e.g. the pixels from the bottom of a maximised window.

It only happens on display scaling at 150-175%, but these are the only two usable scales on this hardware.

I think I need to go back to 11.

>>105739420
Nobody here is your "friend", buster!

We're all enemies here. It's every man for himself!

>>105739462
>listening to dumb /v/irgins
>2025
Kek!

>>105739462
>/v/ says security and updates don't matter and you can stick to Windows 7
lol enjoy your viruses

>>105739462
Because using older versions of Windows is for smart people as they can tinker, fix, back port, and secure any issue they come across. Just keep using 11 and buy those keys goy.

>>105739714
>buy

>>105739725
>he didn't have to suck a lot of dicks in an alleyway for his Windows 12 keys
Looks like we got a rich anon here

>>105707358 (OP)
I have had Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 21H2 installed for months now and it's great.
Are there some useless services running anyway that can be removed with a script (or manually) in order to improve it without breaking stuff?

>>105739873
There's some debloating tools linked in the OP. The problem is that there's so many of them that do the same thing with functions that can literally break your OS if you're not careful. The reason being is a lot of the bloated and botnet shit is hard glued to normal services. ie, you delete some facebook shit and it also stops the use of your calculator. Dumb shit like this basically and there's a lot of stuff like this. Default settings are usually fine though.

>>105734300
I love it when failures out themselves with their deepest fears. Protip: if they replaced you with a streetshitter whose sole training was six weeks of ESL classes, that's a (You) problem.

>>105735465
I never said or even insinuated that. I'll tell to you why: baby ducks fall into two groups

>my waifu os is perfect and would never spy on me
>(cuz os-tan pretty and familiar default wallpaper soothes my autism)
This is how morons ducked on the "normie" releases of Windows (XP, 7) think. Loontroons are the same coincidentally. They never configure their OS because "muh waifu OS perfect OOTB" and the family computer they used when they were 5yo was running completely stock Windows anyway. There's even a sub-subset of these mouthbreathers (so braindead they're not even welcome on /g/ anymore) who think Windows 7 RTM is "perfect" and service packs and security updates "defile" it somehow. Thankfully most were genocided by WannaCry and co.
Bottom line: this type of 'tard is a utter lost cause and can't handle reality in any meaningful way. Don't ever even try to help them because every problem they cause for themselves will be your fault because they have huge victim complexes (another thing they share with loontroons).

>me smart and i pretend im really familiar with my waifu os because youtube told me it was cool ^W^W^W^W^W^W i used it for years
>(but im asking questions that google would take seconds to answer wrecking my credibility)
This kind of duck is different and flock around the more "obscure" versions of Windows (2000, 8.x). These massively overestimate their computer knowledge (as the failanon above demonstrated, admitting he was replaced by a pajeet). They're a bit smarter than the other kind in that they aren't completely cunt-struck by their OS: at least they get their OS needs some config before its usable or can be taken online.
The failanon falls into this group: he's guaranteed to run memescrips like a good little NPC to block telemetry.

>>105738739
Kek
We spent years and years explaining to ltnpcs that theres no performance improvement
>>101318213
>>93487691
>>85736612
>>74291335 (Tbf he's talking about ryzen scheduler)
>>71753914
But only when their e-celeb tells them does it register
Dumb sheep

>>105738925
learn what rot 13 is
now imagine instead of outputting the whole document, it just does that on the same 25 characters over and over until it goes through the whole file
that's your output hash
if a single character is changed anywhere in the file, the output is completely different and means it's been tampered with since the author originally released the file and its hash/sha256

Link a windows microsoft account to get free 12mths extended support for windows 10. Did not see this coming

>>105740488
>called the FRIENDLY windows thread
>pajeet keeps being a vindictive asshole for no real reason

>>105741274
>unemployable tard keeps crying about being replaced with a streetshitter
Again, this is entirely a (You) problem.

>>105739714
>Because using older versions of Windows is for poor people as they break shit with memescripts, type line noise in hourly to stop their installs self destructing, bitch at everyone to back port for them, get stuck with wontfix RCEs and any issue they come across is a conspiracy against them.
FIFY.
You're welcome.

>>105741394
>employment
You really ARE Indian aren't you? HAHAHA
SAR DO NOT REDEEEEM BLOODY BENCHOD

>>105741556
See >>105741394. This is your final (You).

>105741591
okay patel

Sup, I don't frequently lurk windows threads since I mainly use linux.
But lil sis brought me her Surface laptop gen 1.
>Is it compatible with win 11?
>what's the latest version I should install on it?
>when booting there's red ribbon with a lock icon, this is about secure boot?
>how to enable winget on it?
Honestly she doesn't care whats on it since it's for her college homework.

>>105741907
google.com/search?q=surface+laptop+1+specs
google.com/search?q=windows+11+supported+processors
google.com/search?q=latest+version+of+windows+11
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+red+ribbon+on+my+surface+laptop+boot+screen
google.com/search?q=how+to+enable+winget

>>105741933
I'm not clicking your pajeet links

>>105738397
Seems it doesn't, oh well

>>105741933
>google

The obscure registry hack of the day is...
>rolls dice
"Always start the FAT and NTFS filesystem drivers at boot"
REGEDIT4

; Extremely stripped down/weird/unsupported system configurations can result
; in the NTFS filesystem driver not starting automatically, mostly on systems
; where the Windows "boot volume" isn't NTFS: Windows PE won't load NTFS.SYS
; if it's "flat booted" from another, supported filesystem (such as UDF), and
; full-fat Windows booted from (say) a BtrFS using a third-party bootloader/
; FS driver combo (such as Quibble/WinBtrfs) won't either. As an aside, this
; also happens with the "FastFAT" (to give it its proper name) driver, and
; has similar results, but as FAT isn't nearly as widely used as it once was,
; it's not so critical; I have included it here anyway for completeness.
;
; This happens because, interestingly, Windows doesn't actually autostart FS
; drivers by default: it has 'FS recogniser' drivers (presumably to save on
; memory) which, if they detect a volume of a given file system, will load
; the full FS driver. As such, if you DO have FAT or NTFS volumes attached to
; your system at boot time, Windows (or more precisely, these FAT/NTFS
; recogniser drivers) will load the full-fat FS drivers... but if you don't,
; it will cause issues later, for example, trying to format a volume with
; NTFS, as (obviously) formatting requires the full NTFS driver to be loaded.
;
; To avoid these problems - at the cost of a megabyte or two extra of memory
; usage even if you don't have FAT or NTFS volumes connected - this will
; configures both the FastFAT and NTFS drivers to automatically start at boot
; time.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\FastFAT]
"Start"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTFS]
"Start"=dword:00000001

Windows 11 is becoming unusable. The mouse
pointer has started lagging ffs. I hate the mess that linux never stopped being. I despise apple's fischer price walled garden.
What the fuck am I supposed to do? Why can't we just have a consistent, responsive, professional OS. At this point I would PAY microshit for a modern Windows 95/7 that just stayed out of the fucking way.

Computing is FUCKED.

>>105726273
Wait, does this mean I could be using Windows fucking 7 and get security patches until 202 fucking 6?

>>105743924
reminds me of the registry hack to force start UMS (usb mass storage) drivers during the early boot process in XP in order to be able to boot and run XP from a usb drive, back when that was not something you were supposed to be able to do

Is there a way to install the original W10 calendar (the one that got replaced with the cancerous Outlook on regular consumer W10) on LTSC?
Or are there any calendars that integrate into the windows calendar (so I don't have to run an external application) where you can add notifications/holidays/etc.?

How can I hide the default folders in Outlook that I don't use? Not delete, that would cause problems for others, but just hide. Outbox, notes, conversation history, hell even the sent folder. At my job I work out of 4 shared inboxes because my workplace just loves to make a new one for every new line of communication. So now I am drowning in these unused folders for every inbox, I probably wouldn't even have to scroll if these were all gone. I'm trying to use MFCMAPI but it will not recognize that I have Outlook installed. Does it only work on classic Outlook?

>>105744236
January 2026, so barely more than 6 months left
It's not worth it

>>105743924
I'd suggest always starting ALL filesystems recognized by fs_rec.sys, not just fastfat.sys and ntfs.sys.
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Fastfat]
"Start"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Ntfs]
"Start"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdfs]
"Start"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Udfs]
"Start"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ExFat]
"Start"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ReFS]
"Start"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ReFSv1]
"Start"=dword:00000001

>>105744318
https://web.archive.org/web/20081209083004/http://www.ngine.de/index.jsp?pageid=4176
Those were the days. That kraut who initially figured it out (Dietmar) is still fucking with XP to this day.
Twas until Embedded 2009 that an XP system could officially be installed into an UMS device and booted from.

So what browser should I use

>>105747704
Brave probably
you'll want something Chromium based since every now and then there's a website where certain shit just breaks if you aren't on a Chromium based browser

>>105747785
I'll never trust Brave
I'm currently on Floorp, but yeah it's starting to give me the usual issues Firefox always gave me

>>105747704
Firefox + uBlock Origin = Prestigious Master Race!

is there some reason for me to NOT have the bitlocker encryption thing? seems like a harmless additional layer of security

>>105743924
based registry wizard

>>105748741
As long as you set it up properly and make sure you have your recovery key at hand for any event, then it's safe. But in the end, you still depend on MS to not fuck you up with an update

if you log into a truenas server and then change its password
how do I "un log in" on Windows without restarting my PC or logging out of my user?
I have something that's in progress that will take some time to complete that I don't want to interrupt but I would like to log out and then log back in with different credentials and I tried removing the credentials in credentials manager but it doesn't seem to have ended the session..

what do?

>>105740304
I see. Thank you for your response. Indeed, I haven't had any problems with the system ever since I installed it (using properly formatted Rufus USB pendrive). I installed some stuff manually, like HEVC codecs or Dolby Atmos (using the unsigned drivers option).
It's remarkably stable and fast, even though this laptop is pretty old, specs being:
- Intel Core2 Duo CPU T9550 @ 2.66GHz 2.67 GHz x64
- 4 GB RAM
- Intel Integrated Graphics
Yet, it can even emulate some PS2 games well. No problems with high resolution video playback either and the sound is now so much better with Atmos. Contrary to expectactions, Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC has still a big tinkering potential.

Daily driving Windows 11 Pro after being on Loonix for 10+ years. Some observations:
>I'm very pleased by how stable it is now
>Against all odds seems Microsoft is finally trying to unify the UI elements
>WSL2 is a very nice addition
>I'm bamboozled by how smooth the OS handles multi-GPU systems in contrast of Loonix

>>105749522
What made you switch to Windows?
People who have been on Linux for that long usually demonize Windows for the rest of their lives

>>105749685
A couple of reasons.
>I'm forced to use Windows at my job, so, the more exposed to Windows I am, the better.
>One of my personal laptops has dual GPU's and its Linux support sucks, never made it run properly, unlike Windows where everything just works.
>.NET is now open source and widely available so I want to get better at it
>I already have multiple Linux boxes running headless if I ever need to run Linux software

>>105749522
Welcome back to the Windows Master Race!

Linux is for people who never do anything that's productive because their time is worthless!

>>105747806
Why? Because of the web3 stuff? If you just disable all of it it's just a normal Chromium browser with a powerful native content blocker.

>build new PC
>try installing linux for the first time
>can't get wifi to work
>try everything to get it to work on linux
>say fuck it and install W10 LTSC instead
>once again, everything is working perfectly except for the wifi
>realize I was trying to install W11 drivers on W10 because Im retarded
>go check the W10 drivers
>there aren't any wifi drivers for W10
>go read the manual, like I should have before I bought the fuckin thing
>pic related
always remember to read the fine print
fine print that says shit like "only supports W11 btw lol"
I am stupid and have wasted the time of several helpful anons across multiple forums

W11 IoT LTSC it is then

>>105750193
try forcing the installation of the driver using device manager? Usually drivers are forward/backwards compatible unless there was a notable change in the underlying architecture

>>105750302
I don't even care anymore
I just want proof that this hardware even functions
already secure erased the drive in BIOS
time to install W11

>>105750082
Thanks anon. I just wish Windows 11 Pro had the option to configure VLAN's on normal NIC's

>>105750340
That's a case where MS expects you to pay for the privilege, but you can just use the edition that comes with it for nothing IE Enterprise.

>>105750317
oh come on what now
how do I bypass needing a school/work account?

>>105750463
Check the sign-in options for a local domain join. That basically just gives you a local account.

>>105750463
unplug from the internet and do shift-F10 and execute oobe/bypassnro

>>105750485
>>105750488
thanks bros
I'll mess with it tomorrow

>>105750340
It's a bit of an oversight on Microsoft's part that .1q is considered the driver's responsibility, yes. I recall reading somewhere that there's a horrible hack where you abuse SNAP framing to sneak a VLAN tag onto your transmitted Ethernet packets - but I suspect the network stack will still receive all frames.

>>105750532
>It's a bit of an oversight on Microsoft's part that .1q is considered the driver's responsibility
Certainly, I was expecting the Pro and later SKU's to have a nice UI to create virtual NIC's assigned to VLAN's.

However I now know that it is possible to have it using Hyper-V PowerShell module. It's still a bit of a hack though, using the console you create virtual switches (read: NIC's) that map to your physical NIC

>>105750559
>possible to have it using Hyper-V
Be warned that isn't quite what you think it is: it's meant for dividing up groups of VMs on a host into their own VLANs - it's all virtual. I've never actually checked, but I suspect that the .1q tags don't actually hit the physical wire (I'd like to be proven wrong though).

>>105750585
Gotcha, will test this and report back

>>105750585
Quick search says it binds to an actually physical wire

>>105750615
That's for QoS, which Windows has happily supported on Ethernet frames since about Windows 2000. Indeed, the QoS handling code is what I think Microsoft could expand to support VLANs on any and all NICs. But, to my knowledge, TPIDs on .1q frames have always been ignored.

>>105750688 (Me)
VIDs, not TPIDs. Bleh, should have just stuck to calling them "VLAN IDs".

>>105750688
I see what you mean now, what a bummer. Seems only Windows Server supports VLAN's

>>105750721
Well, if I'm wrong (which I still hope I am) and VLAN IDs do actually appear on the wire with a "Hyper-V external virtual switch shared with management OS", it should work down to Pro SKUs, as they come with Hyper-V.
Having said that, I've never used "Client Hyper-V", and Microsoft do like to randomly rip out cool features that it would cost them precisely nothing to leave in.

>>105750784
Seems it can be done with Hyper-V role. It enables the following:
Add-VMNetworkAdapter
Set-VMNetworkAdapterVlan
New-VMSwitch

That allows to create the VLAN interface and bridge it to a NIC. However:
>Switch Embedded Teaming is not compatible with SR-IOV for Hyper-V virtual machines.

>open 1 paused video file (tried different ones)
>CPU temp goes from 45c to 67c
>mpv has 6% CPU usage on a 5800x
This can't be normal, can it?

>>105707358 (OP)

i did an microsfot defender offline scan, however now when i go to protection history, this just crashes. I don't know why, it looks blank like this and then it just crashes

>>105752774
I have you tried the usual dism restore health into sfc scan into a restart? Try that first.

>>105748859
No, >>105744797 is the true based registry wizard.
For us mere mortals, the obscure registry hack of the day is...
>rolls dice
"Force-enable Hyper-V VMQs for 1Gb and 10Gb network cards"
REGEDIT4

; For driver compatibility reasons, Hyper-V disables VMQs on <25Gb network
; cards. This tweak re-enables them, but be warned, you're at the exclusive
; mercy of your network card driver(s) as to how well this works.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\vmsmp\parameters]
"BelowTenGigVmqEnabled"=dword:00000001
"TenGigVmqEnabled"=dword:00000001

>>105754512
Sorry buddy but I only use Regedit v5
>Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

>>105754625
You can do that if you like, if you're happy to double the size of your .REG file for no reason (it also needs to be saved as UTF-16 to be a true REGEDIT5 file).

>>105754686
Do you mean that notepad is not enough for this wonderful feat?

>>105754749
Filename.

windows 10 doesn't have builtin encrypted dns feature, 11 has

>>105754625
I'll load the dice tomorrow to make sure it lands on something that's REG_MULTI_SZ, and as such needs (for large values of "needs") REGEDIT5, just for you anon.

>>105755000
If you want system-wide encrypted DNS on 10 you can just use dnscrypt-proxy like always. But yes it's cool that 11 can use DoH/DoT natively.

I used to run Linux but am trying Windows on my thinkpad to use with an external e-ink monitor i bough that clearly runs better on Windows. I intend to do use it for some web development and browsing. This is an old ThinkPad and the Windows 10 to 11 upgrade didn't go though so I ended up installing manually the Windows 11 Home (10.0.26100). What version of Windows 11 should I honestly be using to minimize telemetry and all the other bullshit that can make my thinkpad slow? I hate bloatware.

>>105754983
Grow up.

>>105755617
IoT LTSC 2024, the lightest native version of 11 Enterprise.

>>105755632
No

>>105755667
?

It's been a long time since I installed windows.
Last time win 10 edu was recommended.
I've got old laptop with 8th gen CPU, I've read up the OP
Should I go for Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC or go for win 11 IoT LTSC (Didn't understand what's bad about it)?
I didn't find anything about bypassing Win11 account making in the OP
Or is this not needed with the IoT version?

>>105755896
These days it's very easy to get Enterprise so you can just use that.
Use IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 if you want 10 or use IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024 if you want 11. The OP maker just doesn't like 11, simple as.
Enterprise by default allows you to make a local account if internet isn't connected during OOBE.

>>105755896
>what's bad about it)?

>>105755920
Thanks man.
>win11 IoT LTSC
Does this also Bypass TPM requirement?
And win11 is ending support in 2034 while win 10 in 2032? Not much of a difference IMO, what gives?
Do you suggest using titus script? or just shutup 10?

>>105756246
IoT LTSC 2024 has no requirements besides needing to be installed on something more recent then a 64-bit Core 2 Duo. It can even be installed in a BIOS system.
Use ShutUp10 to actually set the registry entries and disable the services and Chris's tool to do other things, though you'll need to install winget with asheroto's winget-install script for the tool's program installer to work (LTSC doesn't come with winget.)

>>105756213
>what's bad about it is exactly what's bad about windows 10, windows 8.x, windows 7, windows vista, windows xp, windows 2000, and windows 98 [se]
Yes, stupid child - large chunks of Windows' UI have been JS for 30 years. And it wasn't even native code (protip: that's what "React Native" means) - it was all run through the IE rendering and JS engine.

>>105756282
>LTSC doesn't come with winget.
Thanks for the head up.
Would this cause issue with running other applications?
Mostly matlab and such?

>>105756353
Like I said, you can re-install it using the said script if you need it.

>>105756288
imagine being this retarded

>>105756488
Funny way to spell "you're right", but I'll take it.
Poor ESLs like you are poor and ESL for good reasons, after all.

>>105755639
Thanks. Do you think it would be safer to go with Windows 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021 considering my older hardware? I couldn't upgrade from 10 to 11 "normally" because my ThinkPad's CPU (AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U) is specifically excluded from the Windows 11 compatibility list, and apparently there's some fTPM stuttering issues on Zen+ processors running Windows 11. What are the real trade-offs I'm looking at in this case?

>>105756532
Like it's said above, 11's IoT LTSC branch doesn't have requirements besides what was mentioned.

>>105755617
>external e-ink monitor i bough that clearly runs better on Windows.
Really? Shouldn't it be OS agnostic?

>>105756532
>fTPM stuttering
That problem existed for about five minutes, then was fixed two years ago.

>>105756552
I'm not talking about requirements. I'm wondering about performance since Windows 10 has full hardware compatibility. I understand that 11's IoT LTSC bypasses the hardware requirement but that doesn't mean that there are no implications on performance and system stability.

>>105756600
It's a niche e-ink color monitor (Mira Pro) with multiple settings, etc. I only tested on Linux and Windows and it seemed to perform better on higher refresh rates on Windows. Many people say it doesn't work well on Mac but I never tried myself. I'm in contact with their support due to some bugs i found on their software and next time I will ask if they develop the firmware to be Window-first.

>>105756488
>>105756288
iirc Active Dekstop was available even for windows 95 but as an optional (paid?) upgrade.

>>105756640
>Mira Pro
I still don't get how OS matter, you connect it to HDMI and all the digital signals translated to visual is done on the monitor side.
Right?
Or does their application do something like selective color correction for the signal before it goes to the monitor?

>>105756728
It was part of IE4 (and 5 and 6 if you twiddled some knobs) which was a free download. But yeah, the very last OSR of 95 included it, and 98 had it from the get-go.
But I was more talking about things that were just pure JS, infesting everything, like most of the control panels in XP onward being DHTML, that Windows Sidebar with its JS-powered widgets, etc.
Say what you like about UWP or React Native, they're WAY more performant than hosting IE in every second window, especially on Win7 on a C2D with 2GB RAM, or XP on a P3 with 128MB, or Win95 OSR3 on a P1 with 32MB.

>>105756765
I'm not going to LARP as an expert on E-ink because I'm not, but I did test on Windows and Linux and there are performance differences, and Mac users constantly say it's not usable. I don't know the specific about how the firmware works.

Pic related shows what you can change via software. Dark Color Enhancement and Light Color Filter are two things that I remember have different results on Windows and Linux.

>>105756889
Weird.
I don't have anything like it to test it.
I do admit sometimes running windows improve performance due to better driver.
But for a monitor is kinda weird really.
Try using something with latest kernel like CACHYOS/FEDORA in liveUSB mode, and try without their application and with.

Are there any good windows friendly file viewers out there not made by inept brown retards or overly zealous autists who plug a bunch of meaningless shit into their software?
Default windows apps are giving me a migraine but everything 3rd party I've tried to find for viewing images and videos are useless, needlessly autistic bullshit with 8 morbillion plugins to do the most simple shit I'm asking for

>>105758966
>I've tried to find for viewing images and videos are useless
>images
Nomacs
>video
mpv?

>>105736993
I know this is from a couple of days ago but my advice is this:
fresh windows install
the last alienware lapslop i used had built in backup software that stashed an endless amount of data in a hidden partition that could not be accessed from within windows

So im still running win 10, i use it for games, programming and internet browsing.
Come october or whenever they are ending support, i know it wont instantly blow up, but i dont want to switch to 11 because bloat + ai + corporate, and linux limits my games doesnt it?
Do i get at least 1 more year after win 10 ends support before things start getting bad?

>>105759554
Just switch to IoT LTSC(or read the OP).

>>105759554
you should switch to LTSC, but frankly 11 should be completely fine after debloating, removing all the AI stuff, and disabling telemetry

I haven't reinstalled Windows 10 in ages but my system is basically bloat-free (I'm not a complete tech retard).
Lately I've been thinking that it's time to maybe jump to Windows 11, especially since I got a new HDR monitor recently and HDR support seems to be better on W11 (and things like Nvidia's RTX HDR only works on W11). Plus other things like MPO improvements and HAGS improvements.
Problem is I'm way too lazy to reinstall all the software, even though I keep most of it in a portable format on a non-system drive.
So my question is, how safe is it to do a Windows Update from 10 to 11 rather than a clean install? And a followup question for people who did it, do I actually keep ALL of my data/settings as is - basically only UI changes from 10 to 11, or will I still have to reinstall some apps. For example things like VirtualBox since it uses drivers/services.
I never done a system version upgrade via Windows Update so I have zero idea what gets kept, what gets reset and what gets deleted.

>>105759834
And biggest question is - I use a local user account on W10, but I am signed into Windows Store with my MS account. If I were to upgrade to W11 via Update center, will I keep my local account or will Windows automatically bind/log me in with my MS account that I use for MS store (or force me to use my MS account)?

Odd question, do I need drivers for surface laptop?
Or does Windows have the drivers all baked in?

>>105759834
>how safe is it to do a Windows Update from 10 to 11 rather than a clean install

relatively safe nowadays even if you have light tweaks, but it's always recommended to make a backup just in case, in my case I didn't have any issue, but it has a not-so-old install too

>or will I still have to reinstall some apps

if you choose an in-place upgrade then all your apps are going to stay, and it's likely that all of them will still work fine, of course there's always a chance of something acting weird.

>>105759857
You keep the local account

keep in mind that bloat is going to get installed in the process and maybe some configuration will get reverted, so you better make a quick assess to verify what got changed

>>105760151
it doesn't but Windows Update will fetch them, if you want to download them separately then you can do it from Microsoft's webpage

>>105760187
you have surface laptop?

>>105760174
Thanks, I'll keep backups of things such as browser profiles just in case. Just mostly curious about the apps keeping all settings as is without treating OS update as a fresh install and prompting me to reconfigure everything.
>keep in mind that bloat is going to get installed in the process
Does it actually install shit or is it the same bloat as Windows 10 where it pins something like a "quick install" shortcut to start, that requires you to click it for the bloat app to actually start downloading?

>>105760151
ai generated mercury witch pussy...

for unattend xml clean install from win 10 to win 11, a bit confused about two settings:
account - I can just have one local admin account, and delete other user/admin accounts, this is not the "built-in" admin account right?
key - my windows 10 is activated via hwid, what key do i set for unattend? generic and win 11 will be activated automatically later when it phones home to microsoft?

I have never had any problems but today I wanted to try undervolting and did a minor change and tried to boot into windows and it gave me bsod with error message of memory management and I went back restored the settings in bios to what it used to be. Booted back in but now I get random bsods with different messages every time and i can't even get into repair. What should I do?

>>105761005
use a windows installer drive to try to repair the installation, it would also be wise to first run the diagnostics of your bios just in case some component got fucked

>>105761005
Resetting your bios should be more than enough. Unless the bsod somehow erased data on your ssd and corrupted something.
You'd probably want to test undervolting with intel xtreme tuner or whatere it's called. It's easier.

>>105749685
I, for one, believe Linux, especially distros such as Ubuntu or Mint, are great if you want to resuscitate an older machine or recover data from one that suffered a catastrophic failure of some kind. I saved an old, but still kicking, Toshiba laptop from 2006. The hard drive suffered a partial failure, around 1/4 of the hard drive were bad sectors, physically fucked. Windows would fail to install no matter what partition magic I worked, as the bad sectors were sort of spread out. However, Ubuntu installed with almost no issues (I managed to create a small partition free of defects) and this old thing worked great (for an old laptop) for years to come. I only had to fix a CPU overheating problem by simply cleaning all radiators).
For other things, Windows (prepared accordingly) is still the King. I miss the old Microsoft innovation ability, the jumps from 3.1 to 95 to 98 SE to Windows 2000 to Windows XP to Windows 7... Hell, even 8.1 was nice. Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC is still a great system (compared to the consumer versions that are fucked). But I'm worried we need to basically enter Linux territory in terms of tinkering to make the systems usable.

>>105750193
>>105750463
tldr: I'm stupid and MSI is even more stupider (and gay)

so get this
I've now installed W11 IoT LTSC 2024
and these fucking wifi drivers STILL will not install
I'm not even going to use wifi during the entire life of this stupid fucking computer
BUT THE MOTHERBOARD WAS ADVERTISED WITH WIFI CAPABILITY
THE SHIT SHOULD WORK

I have tried almost everything I can find in forums searches
>updated bios to latest version
>CMOS reset my motherboard and then made sure it was still up to date
>made sure wifi/BT controller is set to auto in bios
>run the driver installer as admin
>made sure all other drivers were up to date
what's maddening is that the bluetooth shit WORKS
the bluetooth and wifi are handled by the SAME FUCKING DEVICE (Qualcomm FastConnect 7800 Dual Bluetooth Adapter)
and yet for some reason only the bluetooth shit works
oh yeah and I even tried to use MSI Center
>go to get drivers
>the only available download isn't even a driver, it's just a download of Norton 360 security software
worse than useless
fuck you MSI

the only option I have left (at least based on forum posts I read) is to try installing the most up to date version of consumer W11 possible because maybe these special snowflake drivers only work on the absolute latest spyware

after that the only remaining avenue would be putting in an RMA request and getting it replaced
BUT I DONT WANT TO TAKE THE STUPID THING APART
IT WAS A BIG ENOUGH PAIN IN THE ASS SQUEEZING ALL THAT SHIT IN IN THE FIRST PLACE

but again
I only use ethernet anyway
no matter where I end up living I will always be able to spare an ethernet connection for my desktop
this is essentially a non-issue
and hell if I do need wifi I could always buy a non-retarded wifi card
BUT I ALREADY PAID FOR A MOTHERBOARD WITH BUILT IN WIFI
FUCK YOU MSI KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS

>>105761629
for reference here is an excerpt from the specifications section of motherboard manual
mobo model is MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI
I have tried installing the most recent drivers that come straight from MSI's support page for the motherboard

the W11 IoT LTSC should work right? Microsoft's own website says that it's 24H2
wifi 7 should work with W11 IoT LTSC right????

I gave up and installed brave

>>105761629
>>105761677
You could just install the driver manually.
What hardware id its show in the device manager?
Also those installer probably only support consumer version of windows, aka home and pro, ltsc its an enterprise os.

>>105761955
Well it's the best Chromium experience you can currently get so there's that. Just remember to do an options sweep and turn off the web3 shit. Also set the content blocker to aggressive.

>>105761968
This, or you could try using SDIO to get the wireless driver through that.

>>105761985
>turn off the web3 shit
Is it just the one flag, or is there more hidden stuff?

>>105761993
Just a couple things in the main options and some nested stuff, it's easy to turn off.
A site like privacyguides have a good set of things to set/disable from a default install.

>>105762002
Thanks anon, following privacyguides somehow also fixed an issue I was having with 4chan XT

>>105762187
>>105762187
>>105762187

>>105762189
Isn't the bump limit on/g/ like 320?

>>105762371
It's 310, but the OP always makes it early for whatever reason.

>>105762425
It's because he doesn't give richer people than him the chance to correct "his" OP. It's no more complicated.

>>105730873
>holy shit... he jumped over an entire office chair! that's impressive!!
Not quite, more deception. He actually side jumps over the arm of the chair, not the entire thing.
And, fuck Microsoft.

>>105762727
There are shorter ways of saying "I'm a prisoner in my wheelchair and I have sour grapes," anon.