Thread 105737880

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>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (gaming included): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7700/X, 9700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU: BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
Premium: SN8100
Others: Check reviews, pick drives with TLC NAND
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU: compare value for money & features, Optiscaler mod expands FSR4 support
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX550/650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer M3BMIIPRX, AOC Q27G3XMN (stable), NEW Q27G40XMN (beware: firmware lottery)
4K: Gigabyte M28U/M27UA, ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105707358

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

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https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date

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>>105737880 (OP)
>Budget: Arc B580, used card
>Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
>High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
So when does the 5070 or 9070 non-xt make sense then?

What are some reasons to get a full ATX board

>>105737926
5070 gets a bit of hate because of the VRAM brigade, and the 9070 is overpriced in the US (cheapest is $650, $100 above base MSRP).

>PSU bought 2 months ago died
>8 year old one still works
did I do something wrong or did I buy some really shitty PSU?

>>105737955
What PSU did you buy?

>>105737926
That early reply didn't answer your question.
5070 12GB makes sense if you find a nice model near MSRP (like the ASUS Prime), and you are willing to adjust settings to deal with whatever VRAM-related bottlenecks that may manifest in the future.
9070 non-XT makes sense when sold at reasonable prices and you don't care for the NVIDIA features or advantages (CUDA/AI, DLSS, etc.)

>>105737934
If you need the extra rear I/O ports or PCIe & storage expansion.
If you have a big case and you want it to appear a bit more full.
If you fell for the GODLIKE or ROG EXTREME memes.

>>105737955
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve

What applications are the go-to for monitoring component temperature and updates?

>>105738016
hwinfo64 is the nasa approved tool

>>105738016
HWInfo, the creator collaborates with devs in Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA.
His updates include sensor monitoring support for unannounced products.

>>105737955
idk check SPL's spreadsheet to see if it's in the shit list

Anons, why are there yellow stains on the blades of my Arctic P14 Max? I have several of these fans and they all have it.
I wonder if it's the lubricant.
No, I didn't spill any liquid or drinks on my case since the PC is on my desk.
I am using a dual tower heatsink CPU cooler, not an AIO

>>105738089
do you smoke or vape chinese boy piss?

>>105738100
I don't smoke or vape.

>>105737880 (OP)
>>SSD (OS drive)
>Budget: SN580, SN770
>Premium: SN8100
>Others: Check reviews, pick drives with TLC NAND
>https://borecraft.com/
Uuuhh where is the SN850X?! I just bought it because it was recommended here..

>>105738114
It's still a good drive, but storage prices are fluid and there are some alternatives like KC3000 if the price is right.

>>105738028
>>105738036
> "shared memory limited to 12 hours"
> rage uninstall

>>105737926
They make sense if you are poor.

>>105738028
>>105738036
Thanks, I’ll check it out.

Bwos, my 7900XTX is overheating

>>105738089
you are silently breathing cancer air

>>105738112
Then it's probably bearing fluid. oof.

For a single slot low profile GPU, is there a better option than the Tesla P4 8GB with a blower fan strapped on the end?

Looks like it should perform about as well as a GTX 980, which is fine for my purposes, assuming nVidia's drivers work fine for games on these cards.

>>105738231
Fuck. I should contact Arctic, then.

I've just realized that the monitor I use is so old and the bezels are so thick that if I upgrade to a 32 inch monitor it will basicially take up the same amount of space as my current monitor

>>105738220
undervolt or get more fans

>>105737955
all new hardware is shit

>>105738220
110C is not hot relax

>>105737981
The motherboard has one 24pin EATXPWR port and one 8 pin power port, I plugged in both of what I assume are the corresponding cables from the PSU.

>>105737787
>>105737778
I tried leaving it on for 10-15 minutes, still nothing.

Disconnected power, Opening the case back up and checking the RAM and power cables next, then double checking the GPU after that I guess.

If the motherboard had a short it wouldn’t distribute power to the fans and back panel components (keyboard and mouse), would it?

>>105738591
boot with one stick of ram

waitfags, when we biting?

>>105738519
I find it easier to focus when there's bezels. Monitors without bezels are also horrible to move around and adjust.

>>105738732
$2000 AND UNDER OR NO BUY

>>105738732
lol

>>105738591
Do you have updated BIOS? Maybe the MB is not able to detect the CPU because of outdated BIOS.
Maybe you also used wrong cable/wrong PSU slot for the CPU MB power port?
[spoiler]Also is this Kanami? [/spoiler]

>>105738591
You should also check the monitor's power & display connections.
Try switching from Display Port cable connection to HDMI or the other way.

>>105738732
5080 super when
UDNA when

>>105738732
>when we biting?
When it's $900

What UPS are you guys using. 900w isn't enough anymore and there is basically nothing between that and rack mounted server solutions.

>No official FSR4 on RDNA3
Lmao nice value purchase AMDkeks

>>105738220
since i slapped ptm7950 on mines the edge averages 69c and the hotspot 83c. this is while blasting 450w btw.

>>105739103
its official on linux

>>105739051
>900w isn't enough anymore
yes it is

>>105739103
you have to be pretty goofy to buy last gen AMD after fsr4 release

>>105739134
if you have a 4080/7900xtx you just run native. why bother with upscalers? you bought the power.

>>105739111
I really should add thermal paste on mine. I ordered some more fans since mine only has 2.

>>105739146
do you own a 4080/xtx?

>>105739146
Does the upscaling help with GPU temperatures?

>>105739128
No I just had a power outage and my UPS started screaming and shut down while running games. I have a 5090 and 12900ks. 900w isn't enough. I don't even have a monitor hooked to it to conserve power.

>>105739155
everything worthwhile runs above vsync cap.

>>105739166
undervolting/powerlimiting does.

What do you think? What would you change?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jPdDdb

>>105739193
whats the usecase
hosting a cp server over tor?

>>105739193
Why the shitty SSD / HDD?

>>105738732
The astral is supposed to cost $2800
MSRP models like that should cost no more than $2100

>>105737880 (OP)
>tfw your pc reaches enlightenment and ascends to nirvana

how the hell do you even get an FE card

I love my 5090.

>>105739218
LLM & AI
Compiling
Hosting
Producing content

>>105739221
Unironically helpful fr

>>105739226
2*120gb ssds = 240gb striped RAID swap drive for hibernation @ $23 lol.

you better love it if you spent $3000 on it

>>105739166
only if the gpu load is lower. if you're using upscaling its usually because you're running too demanding settings in the first place so the load doesn't change really.

>>105739295
you should get a normal mobo like ASUS ProArt B650-CREATOR
stick 2x 3090, 5080 24gb in it with 128gb ddr5 for llm shit, or just go with a 5090
it can fit 3 m.2 nvme drives

>>105739249
You don't. It's a limited edition collectors fanboy piece. Having one means you overpaid for reference.

>>105738623
>>105738775
>>105738809
IT WAS THE RAM!
They weren’t even close to all the way in, like not even halfway lmao
THANK YOU!!

>>105739424
Happy you solved it, enjoy the new pc.

Had my first ever PSU failure, I got this thing in 2015 and it just finally conked out, I don't even game on this thing, the second card is basically for show, this shit is just for playing videos while I paint Ceramics

I knew 5070 super 18gb is around the corner and still bought a 5070. what does that make me

>>105739678
No collateral damages?

>>105739694
I don’t think NVIDIA will give that much memory but what do I know.

>>105739694
a person who doesnt waitfag like a fag

I have a 3500x corsair case and I'm trying to attach the SSD with the screws and it won't go in. I don't know what's wrong.

>>105739678
Did a MOSFET or some other component blew or just stop working?

>>105737880 (OP)
Best 7800X3D motherboard?

Also what bios is the latest, but 'stable' bios for it? Heard the most recent bios that includes 9000 series support nuked performance/stability for 7800's.

>>105739736
>Heard the most recent bios that includes 9000 series support nuked performance/stability for 7800's.
Fuck, it better not have. I updated my BIOS and I have a 7800X3D.

>>105738732
this shit is never, ever coming down. cant even get a 5080 for a reasonable price.
no more founder's edition 5080s/5090s.

>>105739249
pretty sure jewvidia pulled them. i dont see them on their site anymore for 5080/5090s
now you pay the scalp toll

Want to buy a 9070xt Prime OC but that thing has 3 pcie slots and I only have two cables (850w PSU). The card uses 330w but considering that the pcie slot provides 75w, two cables should be well within safety margins. My question is if the system will POST or if the card forces three cables. Does anyone know?

>>105739747
Can't confirm it because I'm having to rebuild my whole setup that I bought just two years ago because faggot tech companies can't make anything that lasts longer anymore.
Just heard that the 9000 support bios is causing issues with older AMD cpus.

A red curse to all tech manufacturers.

>>105739736
B650 Aorus Elite V1 (F34 Bios) if you can get it for around $200.
B850 Aorus Elite if you can’t (F4)
B850 TUF as alternative (Bios version with the latest AGESA microcode)

>>105739757
Those Founders Editions were unavailable in NVIDIA’s official store since launch.
I tried to get in line but the pages never showed up.

Should I get a 5070 Ti for 780 euro?

>>105739770
It won’t boot without the three power cables connected.

>>105739797
Depends on the card model.
ASUS Prime, maybe.

>>105739770
are there no models with 2?

>>105739814
Palit

>>105739819
I believe Sapphire Pulse and Power Color Reaper have 2x 8-pin connectors, Reaper is compact and runs louder.

>>105739821
What card are you upgrading from?

If the store has a good return policy, it might be worth testing how loud and hot it runs.
The 5070 Ti is being sold under MSRP in Europe so it's not necessarily a bad deal.
Watch some video reviews of the model.

>>105739889
I'm still using a GTX 1080, I pretty much only play Formsoftware games and indie games because they're the only ones that still run on this gpu without looking like shit.
It's going to be quite traumatic to switch GPU because I modded this 1080 with Noctua fans and it's silent even under 100% load, I'm going to be tortured by whatever chink fans a new GPU will have, and deshrouding would mean voiding the warranty which is vile on a 800€ card.

>>105739906
Enjoy the year and there's going to be an even better card to buy when you're back.

>>105739713
i was on gtx1080 bro

>>105739927
maybe you were poor
you cant wait if you dont have money to buy anything in the first place

>>105739694
5070 Super will be 16 GB at best. And it won't come out before 2026 which is hardly around the corner.

>>105739917
Check prices for the quieter cards listed in the table.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-epic-x-rgb-plus-oc/39.html

>>105739770
do you mean 2 individual cables connected to the psu? because if so, that's plenty, thats 4x pcie slots of power. There's 2x sets of pcie connectors on each set of cables anon, just twist the loop over to attach the next one, i did it with my setup here on my 7900xtx.

>>105739800
Downsides of daisy chaining one? According to Seasonic this is fine, although I don't quite understand how the 4th picture is fine but not the 5th.

>>105739946
he's buying a 9070xt shill, nice try tho peddling ur Njudean scam-pus.

>>105739979
its perfectly fine, they're literally separate cables with the plastic sleeves just melted together for convenience. With a 2x slot setup, you don't use just one, because it can cause power supply issues where it may not ramp up quick enough or slow enough because both sets of cables are running off the single psu slot.

>>105739986
Fucking retard. >>105739797

Thoughts on Asus gaming burgers?
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/asus-makes-branded-burgers-with-kfc-china-meal-deal-includes-free-limited-edition-keycaps-fortress-of-faith-collaboration-with-fast-food-chain-launches-with-usd5-60-combo

>>105739678
>Dual radeons
I'm sweating just from looking at that

>>105740101
The burger branding probably looks like shit.
KFC chicken sandwiches are okay.

>>105739723
Fuck it, the screws didn't work I just taped it together.

>>105740137
>To install SSDs, flip the drive plate over and screw the SSDs into the drive plate.
This didn't work?
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/cases/3500x-mid-tower-case/

>>105739701
>collateral damages
Oh shit I didn't think of that lol
guess we'll see when the new PSU shows up!!!!!
>>105739731
Machine just wouldn't turn on one day, tried swapping buttons in case the cheap power button was busted, nothing, short of the pins myself, nothing, shorted two pins on the motherboard connector to test the PSU itself, fan didn't spin at all, so I guess it's dead?

The machine would sometimes turn off at random so perhaps that was my warning that the PSU was running out of time...

>>105740197
ssd commonly have low quality screw holes

>>105740197
It didn't work, the screws don't go all the way in the SSD (Samsung 870 EVO 1TB). It's the right screws but the SDD's screw slots are too small.

>>105740115
It's the funny sex number rig, has an i5 4690 and two radeon 6950s, I think the only time I ever actually got Crossfire to work was very briefly in Minecraft...
The more useful thing I can do with it is hook like 11 monitors or something obnoxious like that up, combining the gpus and the motherboard, but right now it's only hooked up to a single CRT and a projector.

>>105740235
then you should upgrade to the 6900k/6950x and 6900xt

>>105740101
they'll probably poison you with the burgers, then if you try to sue them they'll bury you with malicious legal fees and a slow court process.

>>105740321
naw I already got better rigs, one of them is an older ryzen 7 and a 1070 and the better one is a newer ryzen 5 with a 4070.
Sure wish I had time for playing games on them!!!!!!

So what happened to the new lian li psu?

>>105740101
they probably didnt QC it and half the burger comes uncooked

>>105740386
who gives a shit

5070 Super

>>105740561
too bad I own a 3080
If I didnt it might be an interesting gpu
3070 8gb peasants will eagerly jump at it tho

5080 Super?

>>105740607
>38% smaller die on the same node
Actually impressive if they manage to reach 4090 performance

>>105740607
>5070 Super w/18GB VRAM
Damn for the suckers that bought the vanilla card with only 12GB it really sucks to suck.

>>105740631
>reach 4090 performance
At 4090 price heh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/98XGYd

r8 / h8 my gaymer list. will be used mostly for 1440p tryhard desk m+kb games and also connected to the living room 4k TV for comfy couch controller rdr2 and stuff. thinking this should be reliable for quite a while

Why do I never see rear intake? Cases almost always have a 120mm fan right next the CPU air cooler, and fan direction is also invertible on most air coolers. On youtube people constantly make unjustified pointless videos for ad money, but I can't find anyone testing it.

>>105740607
nvm it's been leaked already

>>105740647
Great time to own nvidia stocks

>>105740657
>400W
I guess I'll just wait for the 6080

regarding 9060 xts, for 1080p gaming, occasional photo editing and editing videos is the sapphire pulse enough or is there a better manufacturer/model to grab for that card

>>105740732
inb4 192bit bus

small single use monotasking air gapped machines. Suggestions?

Are high values of VDD and VDDQ i.e. DRAM voltage dangerous to the CPU/IMC, or just the RAM itself? I have this dog shit set of Samsung DDR5 that I want to tweak to the max and I don't care if I fry the RAM itself but I don't want to fry my 9800X3D.

>>105740758
N100

>>105740763
ram vdd and vddq is constrained to the ram and doesn't affect the IMC.
on the (ryzen) cpu side, there's vddio and vsoc and on intel cpus, there's vddq_tx, vdd_mc and vccsa

So due to circumstances I now have four monitors now is that overkill?

>>105740863
Why are you asking us? Do you get utility out of them or not.

>>105740880
I'm not sure

>have to wait until new years/black friday/black week for the tv sales to buy a s95f
is taking the tv pill worth it

>>105740561
Is this person reliable?

Windows or Linux, what do I use to control my LGBT lighting? The default rainbow is obnoxious and the only option in BIOS is to turn them all off.

>>105740863
Probably. You could just stick one or two elsewhere and mirror so you could watch stuff when you're not at the desk.

>>105740925
An 18GB 70 class card? Nvidia doesn't even want you to have 16GB. Seems ridiculous and what about the 5080?

>>105740957
3GB modules are supposed to be coming tho. I'm on a 2060 12GB and have been waiting for a better VRAM upgrade than 16GB, if I can get 18GB at $600 I might finally pull the trigger.

>>105740773
Are they wifi/bt optional, or is it integrated and non-removable?

>>105740942
His hands are huge lol

>>105740957
It's packed with 6x 3gb modules
Installing any vram number between 12 and 18gb on that card would cause a reduction in memory bandwidth

>>105740773
Wait, I see. No, not intel.

>>105740942
openrgb

>>105737934
Because on my mATX board my gpu was so big it would fuck with my usb connector

I have a 2015 old and faithful Gigabyte Z170 HD3 motherboard with a dying CMOS battery.

Can I replace it with a modern cr2032 battery without causing incompatibility issues?

>>105741425
Yes

>>105741425
>incompatible battery

>>105741476
ty anon

>>105741501
idk I read about very old MBs needing different batteries and just wanted to double check

I am thinking of upgrading my 512gb ssd with a bigger one but I don't know what should I do with the existing. my old mobo only has one M2 slot

>>105740957
The 5080 Super will be 24GB using the same 3GB modules as was leaked in January before the base model even launched.
>https://youtu.be/hlVhNKs7fNc?si=4U0ejxfPsOQud3b0&t=688

>>105741545
that's pretty much all pre-ATX only, the vast majority of ATX boards use standard CR2032 batteries

>>105739678
>Had my first ever PSU failure
Did it destroy any other components?

>>105741748
Good to know. I opened my PC now to check and the current battery is also CR2032 lol. Could've just done that before asking if I wasn't so lazy.

A 24GB 5080 might be worth upgrading to but I know it's going to be like $2,000+ so pass

5080S supply will be so bad that it will drive 5090 prices back up to $3k minimum

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-super-reportedly-features-6400-cuda-cores-and-18gb-memory

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

Aieeee i just bought normal 5070ti. Guess high MSRP and low supply will be my final cope

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-also-planning-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-with-24gb-gddr7-memory

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>105742299
>24gb 5070tiS
that's unexpected

>>105742299
5080 sisters...

48gb 5090 super doko

>>105742414
Nvidia not gonna do that, it will be RTX 6090 48GB 3GB GDDR7 memory modules

>>105742425
512bit bus on the first N2/N3 generation gpu would be insanely expensive
But it'll probably exist because of AI

>>105738732
Imagine spending 3+ grands on a video card just to end up with a motherfucking PNY.

how long must i wait

>>105742441
N3E and N3P is super mature yields by the time RTX 60 comes out in 2026 or 2027

>>105741966
>>105741973
>>105741583
>>105740607
5080 super is one big scam. No difference in Cuda cores, rops, clock speed. Just more memory and somehow that it using so much more watts when GDDR7 is supposed to use less power.

>>105742564
The power limit increase hints at nvidia overclocking the crap out of it like they did the 3090ti

>>105742564
>>105742572
It honestly reminds me of the 6950xt. Literally same chip as 6900xt but they oc'd the memory and slapped a way higher price tag. In reality it's only 3-4% faster.

>>105739678
show ceramics

>>105742299
Waitfags… I kneel…

>>105742299
So, what's the point of buying 5080 super now? It's gonna be 15% performance difference with +40% price gap like normal ones.

>>105742609
Seems to be aimed for AI fags since there's no increase in Cuda,ROPS,transistors, anything that shows this isn't a recycled GPU.

>>105742609
that's what the 5080 is to the 5070ti and lots of people still bought it
xx80 fags simply buy the xx80 without understanding the specs

>You have been permanently banned from all boards for the following reason:
>Tor exit node.
>Your ban was filed on August 9th, 2022. This ban will not expire.

What kind of horseshit is this

>>105742679
I mean its true. 5080 has same transistor count as a 7900xtx but they overpaid for their 5080.

should I buy 5070 super or 5070 ti super when it comes out?
t. 3070ti owner

also do I buy Oled monitor?
Do advice.

>>105742717
4chan is definitely not a cia honeypot

i have a midtower that cant fit a huge GPU, would it be feastible to get a liquid cooled 5090 and place the radiator externally?

>>105742730
i hate this nonsense. I just want to shitpost anonimously.

could my 16GB of DDR4 (dual channel) be at all responsible for occasional stutters in games when roughly 14GB is being used? when it occurs my cpu utilization is rarely above 30% and my gpu 60%

udna when?

>>105742768
next year CES? probably the same as RTX50 Super release

>>105742398
>gpus that use 2gb gddr7 modules get a super version that uses 3gb modules
>surprising
you must be living under a rock

>>105742804
i specifically said 5070tiS and not 5080S for a reason ESL

>>105742839
and

>>105742870
go back to elementary school

>>105742768
>>105742786
not until ps6/nextxbox launch. same as rdna2 how it came out on pc same month as ps5.

You think a 7600X3D is good enough for my wife to play the Oblivion remake on? Microcenter has a $400 bundle that seems reasonable.

>>105742901
>same as rdna2 how it came out on pc same month as ps5.
They learned not to do that anymore. It was way too confusing for consumers that they released rdna2, zen3 and ps5/xbox all in the same quarter. It also minimized the amount of time they were in the news cycle compared to a staggered launch

What's a not-shit thermal paste brand? I used the shit that came with my cooler and it needs repasting after only six months.

>>105743193
consoles still get the new hardware first. rdna4 was in ps5 pro before pc even got it.

>>105743134
should be enough

>>105740561
>>105740657
>>105742299
NVIDIA doesn't want to increase the GPU's performance because it can make the next-generation offerings less impressive.
They may be trying to expand GeForce's customer base to AI hobby & learning since the PC gaming market peaked during COVID-19 lockdowns.

>>105742719
>5080 has same transistor count as a 7900xtx
7900XTX owners rejecting reality to cope with their purchase, so old.
>7900XTX GCD Transistors: 45,400 million, MCD Transistors: 2,050 million x6, Total: 57,700 million
>4080 transistor count: 45,900 million
>5080 transistor count: 45,600 million

>Can't post average performance chart because (it) knows the 7900XTX with shit AI/ML capabilities can't beat a 4080.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-9070-steel-legend-oc/31.html

>>105743246
45 million transistors for all 3 gcds

>>105743261
my GCD in ffxiv is 2.5

>>105743237
Appreciate it

>>105743246
I own both a 7900XTX and a 5080 and I'm still using the 7900XTX because while the performance is marginally worse in the games I play regularly the drivers were utterly fucked for months and I got sick of waiting for them to fix it and put the old card back in.

>>105743270
5080 barely works on linux or windows. its a "datacenter" card thats been farted down to consumers.

>>105742725
>should I buy 5070 super or 5070 ti super when it comes out?
Aim for the best video card you can afford as long as the price/performance makes sense.
If you want to dabble in local AI hobbies, the rumored 5070 Ti Super's higher VRAM is better.

>>105742743
I doubt it, are they running at 3200MT/s or higher?

>>105742804
If the rumors are true, it's a big change in how NVIDIA specs their -70 & -80 series cards.
What will be the memory specs of the launch 6070, 6070 Ti, and 6080? I can imagine a 6080 having 20~24GB VRAM.
But I'm not sure if NVIDIA wants to permanently provide 18 & 24GB VRAM for the -70 and -70 Ti cards.

>>105743134
Oblivion is mostly software bottlenecked, the people at Virtuous and Bethesda have to release a performance patch.

>Microcenter has a $400 bundle that seems reasonable.
Does it provide 32GB memory? decent deal.

>>105743261
>all 3 gcds
There's only one GCD in the 7900 XTX you dumbass.

>>105743270
>>105743285
So you like to play console-optimized titles, good for you.

>>105743216
>rdna4 was in ps5 pro before pc even got it.
Mark Cerny specifically said the PS5 Pro is not using RDNA4.
It's a hybrid chip design (RDNA2 + RDNA4 RT + custom RDNA AI/ML) & because RDNA3 was too shit to adopt.

>Should i for a 4070 or a 5070?
>Pairing with a 5700x3d 32 ram
>Good monitor for 1440p 165hz+ (ips cuz led fuck my eyes)

>>105743326
so rdna4 got it.

>>105743301
f1 24 isnt console.

>>105743297
You have autism.

>>105743333
>so rdna4 got it.
Only the RT block.

>f1 24 isnt console.
Yes it is.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/f1/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UArAFWpIugY

>>105743331
Might as well get the 5070 since an ASUS Prime is available @ $550 in the US.

>>105743301
What changes 5080 barely works on linux or windows. its a "datacenter" card thats been farted down to consumers.

>>105743338
You lie to cope with your purchase, that won't unfuck your card.
Driver issues can be fixed.

>>105743345
>5070
I heard bad things about it but i plan to use it to create ai images...

>>105743346
>its a "datacenter" card thats been farted down to consumers.
AMD will be doing exactly the same, they're just behind the market leader.
RDNA4 is like the RTX 30/Ampere stage for AMD, they finally made a GPU that can respectfully run RT & upscaling.

>>105743355
The fix is to buy an rtx6000 card

>>105743365
>plan to use it to create ai images...
You might as well wait until next year for the rumored Super refresh cards with more memory capacity.
Local AI training & inference benefits from having more VRAM.
12GB will only give you a taste of it.

>>105743369
I wonder why millions of RTX 50 card owners haven't returned their cards...
Probably because they know the issues were just part of being an early adopter and they know the drivers will fix the issues.
Adrenaline Drivers won't add more AI cores to your 7900XTX.

>>105743383
There's only so much driver hacks can do to hide buggy display and pcie phys
This will be apparent in 6 months

>>105743395
>buggy display and pcie phys
You are coping. Hard.
In 6 months, your 7900XTX will still be shit at running any form of FSR4.

>>105743383
I haven't had a single problem with my 90 so far

>>105743374
Thanks. Gonna wait then, for now i'm stuck with a 4060

>>105743395
Don't have to wait 6 months to get Microsoft Windows-related display fixes too.

>>105743369
if only it wouldn't cost 10k rupees

>>105743383
at my local microcenter nobody is touching 5080/5090. all the 9070xt and 5070ti are sold out by comparison.

>>105743423
what's the 5090 price there?

>>105743421
>11
I mean, you only have yourself to blame if you install that piece of shit.

>>105743407
It's just people with RDNA3 buyer's remorse desperately trying to cope with their purchase.
I told people to wait for RDNA4, and didn't even shill a single GeForce card, instead of buying those cards.
Even the Nico posting guy was smart enough to know this and waited™ for a 9070 XT.

>>105743433
NTA but $3,359.99 at mine.

Hi /pcbg/

I am wonder which VGA to go with my Ryzen 7 5700X3D. My local shop has
-16GB 5060Ti at $506 to $689
-16GB 9060XT at $418 to $494

>>105743448
Damn, that the most expensive model?
I got the ventus 3x model because it's the only one that would fit in my case, it was 3000 euros initially but briefly dropped to around 2600 when I bought it.
>>105743444
>It's just people with RDNA3 buyer's remorse desperately trying to cope with their purchase.
perhaps, lol, I mean if you only want to play games then amd is ok, but geforce still dominates in other tasks despite the high cost

>>105743433
cheapest 5090 is asus tuf for $2,759.99. the most expensive are all 3000+. 5080s are going for $1200-1500. they're all collecting dust compared to the cards I just mentioned.

>>105743292
>I doubt it, are they running at 3200MT/s or higher?
here I was forgetting to enable XMP, I was clocked at 2133 before but running at 3200 now, I'll test things out on this, sorry still very much a layman

>>105743469
I'd expect at least some enthusiasts to buy them, even here where the salaries aren't the highest, many cards flew off the shelf, that's why I didn't want to wait too long, in case they get bought out, but now there's more in stock after the price went up again.

>>105743455
9060XT 16GB is fine if you don't care for the NVIDIA-exclusive features like DLSS, and if you don't plan to work on small-scale AI projects.
Pay the extra for some of the better models, and avoid Gigabyte because their thermal gel has quality control issues.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/gigabytes-so-called-server-grade-thermal-conductive-gel-and-a-degrading-thermal-paste-on-the-radeon-rx-9070-gaming-oc/

>>105743455
$418 9060xt 16gb desu

>>105743483
they're too overpriced for lots of driver issues on the two leading operating systems on the planet. unless you're using freebsd or some datacenter hybrid os its not gonna work well.

>>105743469
that's where the price/perf for normies stop
5090 supply has been stable in eu for a minute and prices became normal

>>105743483
everyone who wants 5090s could have gotten them for a while now no wonder it starts to level out

>>105743487
I heard FSR4 has some issue isnt' it? Don't really know what exactly is DLSS and FSR but just read something about FSR4 issue.

Also the part about SAM for AMD CPU & VGA combo is true isn't it?
>>105743491
Thanks

>>105743497
what driver issues, I installed 576.28, put it on pcie 4.0 and I haven't had a single issue, everything works smooth as butter

>>105743466
>perhaps, lol, I mean if you only want to play games then amd is ok, but geforce still dominates in other tasks despite the high cost
Most of these 7900 XTX owners bought the card when they were discounted to around $800. Even they knew this card was overpriced.
I'm sure they're enjoying the extra 8GB of VRAM that has no gaming performance benefit over the 4080/5080.

>>105743510
The only issue with FSR4 on rdna4 is that there are lots of pre-2024 AAA games that only implement FSR3 or FSR2 and don't officially support FSR4 without 3rd party hacks like optiscaler.

>>105743525
>go to r/amd thread about rdna3 aging like milk
>dozens of 7900xt and 7900xtx owners coping
>7600, 7700xt and 7800xt owners nowhere to be seen
checks out

>>105743510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em4ghJbaqeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA
https://files.catbox.moe/h517uk.webm

>>105743510
>I heard FSR4 has some issue isnt' it?
Its just less official adoption, but the Optiscaler mod will let you use it in most games that support DLSS/XeSS/FSR3.1.
Visual issues can be improved with further training, which is happening with AMD's collaboration with PlayStation (Project Amethyst)

>>105743525
>I'm sure they're enjoying the extra 8GB of VRAM that has no gaming performance benefit over the 4080/5080.
I'm not even sure what the most demanding game is vram-wise. Everyone kept using Cyberpunk as their fotm benchmark but even with all settings maxed it only ate up like 9gb of vram. I'm pretty sure even Doom 2016 took up more than that, but that game ran like 50x better than Cyberpunk.

>>105743522
see
>>105743553

>>105743522
wuthering waves keeps crashing on dx12 and the devs blame nvidia and the nvidia blames the devs. so its never getting fixed. amd just works. read the patch notes/dev notes.

>>105743553
ok, but it clearly works now, so what's the problem?

>>105743553
The coper's posting stale articles and videos.
We're at 576.80.
NVIDIA doesn't even allow RTX 50 card owners to download the problematic drivers anymore.

>>105743571
>>105743576
nvidia still broken

>>105743580
windows 11?

>>105743580
update your drivers

>>105743563
>wuthering waves
It crashes on AMD too, game issue.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Wuthering_Waves

This isn't a healthy way to cope with your purchase.

>>105743588
>>105743589
>>105743599
os is irrelevant. same with updating drivers. it happens on linux or windows. its nvidia driver issue but nvidia blames the devs but devs says its nvidia issue so both heads clash at not fixing it. meanwhile it works on amd windows linux even on god damn phones.

next time read instead of being ESL

>>105743604
ok, what game is it?

>>105743604
>devs says its nvidia issue
A community manager in Discord said that bullshit.
Look at all these Radeon cards crashing because of NVIDIA's Game Ready Drivers.
Cut the crap.

>>105743610
next time read instead of being ESL

>>105743617
next time read instead of being ESL

its nvidia driver issue but nvidia blames the devs but devs says its nvidia issue so both heads clash at not fixing it. meanwhile it works on amd windows linux even on god damn phones.

next time read instead of being ESL

>>105743617
>SEVERAL months ago
we're talking about today lilpup

>>105743619
Yeah I totally know what "WS3" is
>inb4 it's Wuthering Waves
LOL, who gives a shit about some tranime chinkslop, if I was an nvidia dev I'd tell you to go play better games instead of being a faggot

>>105743633
UE4 is massively broken on Nvidia along with general OS features on Windows & Linux. Hows that bugcheck exception on MPO?

>>105743633
Retard can't read. it works on phones but not nvidia. explain.

>>105743649
it even works on steam deck but not on a 5080 lmao

>>105743631
>we're talking about today lilpup
Share the link of that image source, let's see if it's today's reported issue.

Anyway, the game's causing crashes today because the devs didn't fix it.

>>105743641
I'd test it out myself but I don't think I have any UE4 games
>>105743649
I don't care about your shit game

>>105743641
>Hows that bugcheck exception on MPO?
Go ask the Radeon card owners, MPO-related issues can only be fixed by Microsoft.

>>105743641
UE4 in general? Imma redownload everspace (first time in 4 years) to see if its broken on my rtx5000

>>105743624
You're the one that's having reading comprehension issues.
DX12 crashes on that game is happening to Radeon cards as well.

>>105743624
>retarded AMD ESL indian niggerjeet calling anyone else ESL
LOL

>>105739170
>12900ks
there's your problem retard, get a 9800x3d

so...wait for super or get a gpu now??

>>105743526
Thanks

>>105743763
Even if those rumored specs turn out to be true, it's going to be very difficult to buy any of those cards.
Keep track of pricing and decide whether you need all that extra VRAM, there won't be a big boost in performance (that's why they're rumored to be speccing more VRAM).

>>105743678
wrong

>>105743678
it literally works on my steam deck and ps5. meanwhile it wont stop crashing on 5080. new driver doesn't fix shit. the devs keep telling you to not update for a reason.

>>105743832
>>105743843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

>>105743864
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/blolDG2rrQI

>>105743832
Because your deck is running the game in DX11, not the problematic DX12.

>>105743864
>>105743870
>Posts old videos because that's all he can do.

>>105743843
There are over 90 open issues potentially caused by Mesa drivers on Valve's Proton page.
Around 60 for NVIDIA drivers.

Only 1 open NVIDIA driver-related issue occurs on a Valve-verified stable game, and it's not game-breaking.

>>105743958
I'm using vkd3d not dxvk

>>105743964
Don't lie you seething faggot.

is it low intelligence that makes brand war retards argue about the same exact thing every day for years? i genuinely wonder how these people function in real life. do they obsess over literally everything?

>>105741775
I don't know! I didn't think about it! Guess we'll find out on Wednesday!
>>105742579
I can't find the finished photo but we call these little bastards easter gnomes

>>105743201
Duronaut

>tl;dr: will this be *silent*?
>...or should we go with thermalright instead of noctua?

Please tell me what the Peerless Assassin *sounds* like (harmonics, hum, etc), not just db levels/loudness compared to NH-D12(S)?

>>105739226
>>105739221
>>105739218
>>105739330

Okay, but how about this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L7QPWc

>pic unrelated -- someone somehow got 4xddr5 running @ 6000 cl30 on am5 (possibly due to "expo")

>>105744096
Awesome detail, how long do these usually take to complete?

>>105744112
>someone somehow got 4xddr5 running @ 6000 cl30 on am5 (possibly due to "expo")
6000MT/s CL30 is achievable if they're running 4x16GB because they're single rank modules (less stressful to memory controller compared to 4x 36GB or 4x48GB).

>>105744112
If you're noise-sensitive, pick the Noctua cooler.
Do not pick that Gigabyte card it has QC issues.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

is newegg safe to buy from again ?

>>105742299
what's even the point
all these high vram cards are unnecessary

is this a good monitor? i edit videos, sometimes game on pc and a ps5, and watch movies and anime.

>>105742299
>TDP will increase to 350W, a 50W jump
fuck power efficiency

>>105743990
why do YOU lie?

https://youtu.be/J7CbNmZPDNY?si=VqhQAn2ljUBg-OCE

will there be a 5080 super ?

>>105743990
>>105743958
>>105743667
>>105743617
>>105743599
you're a sad cunt

>>105744216
2 more weeks

>>105744178
It's basically a 43" miniLED gaming TV.
If your setup can accommodate that size, it's one of the better miniLED monitors/TV.
Best Buy is selling that for $500.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-neo-g7-43-mini-4k-uhd-1ms-amd-freesync-premium-pro-smart-gaming-monitor-with-hdr600-black/6559079.p?skuId=6559079

Some people complain about Samsung Electronics' QC, but I never owned their monitors to speak from experience.

Are you supposed to both turn HDR on in Windows and in-game? I can clearly see there's a cumulative effect when I have both turned ON, does not seem right.

I'm testing on Doom Eternal.

>>105744225
yea i specifically want that size. my current display is a 43 inch 4K tv but its 2019 TCL shit stuck at 60Hz. would that samsung be a huge upgrade? i know there are better models but theyre more expensive and oled concerns me because of burn in

>>105744211
Go ahead and play that game @ 30 FPS on the deck.

>>105744217
Just don't lie on PCGB, someone will call you out.

>>105744256
You usually turn on Windows HDR, then adjust the in-game HDR settings if the game has that option.
https://www.hdrgamer.com/2022/01/doom-eternal.html

>>105744161
Thank you!

>no plans to overclock gpu
Would ASUS be better, noise-wise?

Honestly, I'd love to find an underclocked passively cooled 3090, 4090 or 5090... if such a thing could exist.

I really want the quietest 4090 or 5090 possible, IDGAF about performance, only *silence!* -_-

Yes: I am trying to eliminate noise, especially any sort of whining. Would *this* be as quiet (with the cheaper fans)?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DXTYC8

>>105744211
>why do YOU lie?
Nice stable gameplay faggot. Comment from your video link.

>over half way through 2025
>super series gonna overwrite the current cards in under a year
>60 series releasing another year after that
Unironically should I just wait? Haven’t built a pc before and not intending on upgrading again for 5-10 years. Was eyeing the 5070ti for Black Friday but I don’t want something that the ps6/ps6 pro will invalidate and make me have to upgrade early

>>105744293
Those case fans are not quiet at all, and the mATX case might not fit that many 120mm fans + a 4090/5090.
Any 4090/5090 will run a bit loud if you use that case, there's not enough cool airflow coming in.

If you're a noise schizo, check the fan reviews in HWCooling.net
(Spoiler, he rated the new NF-A12x25 G2 & NF-A14x25 G2 as the best overall fans).
https://www.hwcooling.net/

Now that I got an OLED monitor will QDEL and microled vidya monitors be available commercially before the end of the year?

>>105744324
No, I don't believe any display or monitor manufacturers demonstrated QDEL/microLED monitors at CES or Computex '25.

>>105744307
Thank you based fren.
Guess I'll pull the trigger on the Noctua 140s after all... how are Lian Li fans? (This is a Lian Li case, so why not...)... FSP is the best (quietest) PSU, if it's rated liek 35% above calculated maximum load, amirite?

I *need* to avoid coil whine.

>>105744178
Tell me why on earth would you get a 43" va when you get *aLLeGeDLY*( I havent checked) get a 42-48" LG C/B in USA for 600$ right now?

Downsides
>It's samsung (Qc horrid)
>VA smear insane
>I think it might have a BGR subpixel structure from memory too lazy to check

just buy a fuckin TV that is both better faster and cheaper

if you don't have a hdmi2.1 connection on your gpu might be the only downside then you are fucked I guess

>>105744300
>Unironically should I just wait?
6 months into 5090 release and supply has just stabilized to the point of that you can buy them, and you wanna wait 2 years
I mean yeah unless you are building now wait 2 years until 6090
but if you wait 2 years just to buy a 6080 which is a worse 5090 you will have to question your IQ levels
and you are considering waiting for even lesser gpus than those that exist right now? I don't even
nothing make sense anymore

>>105744324
>microled
>just use 200" as a pc monitor to get the pixel pitch bro
DOA tech

>>105744300
>but I don’t want something that the ps6/ps6 pro will invalidate and make me have to upgrade early
The Super refresh cards won't be cheap if NVIDIA's upgrading that much memory capacity (+ scalping).

PS6 and the Pro won't match the 5070 Ti's performance, that level of performance is cost-prohibitive for a gaming console.
These console GPUs just need to be able to upscale to 4K, with maybe some frame generation mixed in for 120FPS gaming.
The PS6 will probably target a $500~600 MSRP, they need to upgrade the CPU as well (main performance bottleneck).

>>105744358
>>105744307
It'll fit six 140mm fans (paired in top, bottom & side), plus one 120mm exhaust fan in the back... actually, the big cpu cooler & gpu take up the space of one or two 140s, so I guess 4x140+1x120 is the how it'll wind up.
(To be clear: whooshing air is fine; fan & coil *whine* is *not* -- I don't want to hear any solid materials rubbing together).

>>105744371
dont oleds have burn in? i use my current display as half pc monitor, half tv. on the pc end i spend long periods of time browsing the web, editing videos etc. those ui elements are all mostly static.

>>105744293
Asus strix 4090 has less fan noise but depending on when it's produced, same (2024 batch) or significantly (pre-2024) more coil whine

>>105744385
>dont oleds have burn in?
Maybe? yes? no? entirely depends on your usage
maybe you will have worse issues than burn in over time
point was it's a bad proposition if you wanna use large screens in current year
TVs are cheaper and better
and everything larger is mostly VA which will be ass
some people use VA TVs too but you will get BGR subpixels and smear there too, it will be brighter though
I wouldn't
especially if you have crazy deals like that, maybe it's over now before
idk I watched yt'ers in usa shill for that deal a while ago
maybe wait for the next deal
I have no clue not my market
you even have the s90d 42" 48" too to check out or whatever there

New thread, I know it's unnecessary because the shitpostings slowed down.
But I am making changes to the OP based on feedback.

>>105744483
>>105744483
>>105744483