Thread 105744483

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (gaming included): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7700/X, 9700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU: BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
High end: SN850X
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU: compare value for money & features, Optiscaler mod expands FSR4 support
Budget: Arc B580, used cards
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX550/650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer M3BMIIPRX, AOC Q27G3XMN (stable), NEW Q27G40XMN (beware: firmware lottery)
4K: Gigabyte M28U/M27UA, ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105707358

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>105737880

>Additional PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/

For the PSU tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super series rumor update (5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB)
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-also-planning-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-with-24gb-gddr7-memory

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if its price/performance is good & if you're willing to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks in the future.

RX 9070 non-XT:
Recommendations are based on US prices, current 9070 prices are too close to the 9070XT to justify purchase.

Leave constructive feedback to help improve the OP (including news worth sharing).
Share PC building-adjacent interesting/silly images for the next OPs.

Disclosure: I am not a shill, I only own one product recommended in the OP (DDR5 2x16GB).

>>105744496
the ai is drunk

>>105744496
i asked about the neo g7 because it ticks a lot of boxes for me in terms of screen size refresh rate and price. from what i know models that people say are better are almost always oled but since i do a lot of stuff on my pc that might cause burn in im afraid to get one. they are also usually more expensive.

>>105744537
I think he's the resident monitor enthusiast, usually shares reasonable takes.
42/43" miniLED vs OLED displays can go either way.
Improvements for existing miniLED tech aren't prioritized because major players are investing in RGB miniLED.

>>105744499
>Disclosure: I am not a shill
shill detected

>>105744555
If you buy that TV/monitor for $500 at Best Buy, I'd say it was a win.
Especially if you're concerned with burn-in.
Check if there's any new firmware for that display after you set it up.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g8TMYd
>roast my *quiet* machine
>tfw bought one extra pair too many 140mm fans to bring total price to $4444.13
>have partpicked 4090 or 5090 builds under >$4k

>>105744595
...this just might be the final build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nmGJWc

Anyone here with an OLED who keeps playing the same few games with HUD elements? How long did it take for the HUD elements to burn into your screen?

Reposting for visibility since thread was close to done >>>105744300

>>105744634
If you're in the US & concerned with OLED image retention, test out the AOC Q27G40XMN 1440p miniled (VA).
Return it if you get the bad one that can't apply the best local dimming option (Strongest) when HDR is enabled.
Best Buy should accept your return because the product is flawed.

I think it's worth the effort because it's a solid choice if you're concerned with OLED burn-in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDOybDnJ9cM
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g40xmn

If you want a 4K monitor, wait for MSI's 4K miniLED monitor (MPG 274URDFW E16M).

Hello sirs

https://www.hotukdeals.com/share-deal-from-app/4628251

How is this SSD as a storage drive for the downloads folder and for nvidia instant replay (constant recording).

Is it safe to assume that a 3.1 slot GPU will make it impossible to user the fourth slot with anything?

Speaking of OLED I recently got the AW3225QF from Best Buy here in Leafland since it was on sale but didn't get BB's warranty. Does anyone here have personal experience with either Dell or BB's warranty? Wondering if BB's 4-5 years is worth the extra 300+ leaf dollars. It seems Dell's advanced exchange always sends out refurbished units to replace yours and BB will either give you a new unit or a full refund you can spend on a newer monitor down the line?

>>105744623
Noctua Redux fans are overpriced, they're cost-cut models of fans that were designed over 10 years ago.
If you want an all-Noctua setup I guess it's what it is.

>>105744706
I don't recommend using an SSD for GeForce Instant Replay or other similar video capture features.
A HDD is fast enough (~75 MB/s. write) to record it, especially if it's recorded on AV1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ub4wDMo17Y

explain how 5080 loses to 7900xtx

>>105744805
It also loses in Call of Duty. Some games are simply better optimized for one architecture over the other.

>>105744805
driver overhead

>>105744805
Because you like to show a small selection of unoptimized trash that gives your 7900XTX a performance lead.
/pcbg/ is not /RDNA3 Owners' Group Therapy/ general, go make your RDNA3 cope thread or fuck off to one of the video game boards if you want to talk about /Linux Gaming/.

>>105744779
I'm just trying to get a box that never whines, neither from coils nor fans, and Noctua's magical levitating magnetic bearings et al, uh, they just work, amirite?

Where can I get cheaper, better fans which don't produce any sort of whine or grinding noises (gentle whoosh of moving air is fine)?

>>105744827
explain why 5080 crashes while 7900xtx doesnt

>>105744595
>>105744623
>tell me the difference between these two 120mm noctua fans
Penultimate initial build configuration for this sveldt multipurpose box I intend to play vidya gaemz on while encoding & hosting plus doing a bit of LLM & AI stuff along with whatever else I feel like doing with it; going for *minimal* noise (especially grinding whine -- whoosh of air is fine) and cost-effectiveness:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vmkfgn

>>105744828
be Quiet Pure Wings 3 is better than the Redux fans imo.
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/more-and-faster-blades-bequiet-pure-wings-3-bl113-review/

The only bad thing about the Pure Wings 3 is the no 0-RPM mode, but your case fans should be constantly spinning in that mATX case.

>>105744805
I don't know but I do know that my 4090 beats both.

>>105744831
Read the content of the images you post, TheBest36 answered your question.

>>105744847
I'm hearing that, but talk tech -- what kind of bearings/bushings/skirts/axles/etc?

>>105744836
>the two fans in question from my earlier post here

>>105744860
HOW ARE THEY DIFFERENT?!

>>105744779
I have a hdd right now and it's on its last legs.

Why are those cards greyed out?

>>105744860
>what kind of bearings/bushings/skirts/axles/etc?
Ask be Quiet to disclose those technical data, which they probably won't share.

>>105744483 (OP)
Are the refresh rumors bullshit? Who would a 18/24gb xx70 card even be for? 12gb is enough for the forseeable future unless you worship Hardware Unboxed and 16gb will last you until the card is dogshit.
Is this just a local ai niggery card? Surely it will be basically unavailable right?
>future proofing
Buy a 5090.

>>105744871
P3 Plus is more of a mid-level drive with unremarkable total write endurance (440TB for 2GB).
If that 440TB total write is enough for you, it's fine. The discount seems pretty nice.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-p3-plus-ssd-review-capacity-on-the-cheap

>>105744537
no

>>105744555
>im afraid to get one
but you are not afraid of having a vastly inferior display instead?

>they are also usually more expensive.
I saw yt'ers shilling the 599$ oled tv deal for the longest now, the b or c series or s90d's as I said, at that price point it's literally ridiculous since you are already in the market for that size
makes zero sense getting anything else
maybe it's gone now I don't know
not my market

this is the performance difference we are talking about, pic related
it's also bgr confirmed which is not best for text also

>>105744578
>I think he's the resident monitor enthusiast, usually shares reasonable takes.
I'm not the guy you are thinking of

>>105744586
42/48inch oleds for 600 are too cheap
I think it was the B4 or S90D on sales

>>105744634
if you run a mmorpg with hdr on at max brightness for thousands of hours maybe

Recommended ram speeds for 5090+9950x3d?

>>105744483 (OP)
Fun fact, my desktop is actually upside down in that photo, I just flipped it over so it looked normal.
Amazon says the new power supply is coming tomorrow so maybe I will be able to update sooner than I thought on whether it works or not!
Maybe with the new power supply I will be able to hook the monitor and the projector into each of the graphics cards instead of having to stick one of them in the motherboard...

>>105744926
>Are the refresh rumors bullshit?
Kopite7Kimi's hardware leaks are very reliable.
He was the first to say the 5090 FE would have a 2-slot cooler, most people wouldn't believe that shit (including me).

>Is this just a local ai niggery card?
That's my interpretation of these rumored specs, the PC gaming hardware sales are declining.
Their growth market is in local AI hobbyists and students.

>Surely it will be basically unavailable right?
That's my guess as well, scalped & sold out.

Kopite7Kimi leaks reliable hardware specs first, guys like Moore's Law is Dead makes a video/podcast episode about it.

Do all new 9070XTs come with Samsung VRAM?

>>105744940
6000MT/s CL28 or the CL26 if you can find the latter.
They're not worth the premium but they have the best EXPO timings.
Pick one with the lower EXPO voltage if available.

>>105745000
No, it's a lottery. Same as overclocking.

>>105744890
Proprietary fantech... low-pressure helium filled magnetic bearings?

How about this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JndbQd

>>105745010
Chur.

>>105745036
It looks fine, share photos of the completed build.

>>105745036

>$4.4k
...or is Klevv a reputable brand?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JndbQd

>>105745053
>Klevv a reputable brand?
Yes. Klevv is owned by the DRAM, HBM, and NAND manufacturer SK Hynix.
It's like Micron's Crucial memory & SSD brand, but with a more complicated ownership structure.

I am on Z390 platform, PCIe 3.0, and my video card just died (2080ti). I don't really need to upgrade my PC right now, but I need a working decent video card and don't really need more performance than the 2080ti. Currently looking at 5060Ti 16GB and 9060 XT 16GB. Am I right in thinking that the 9060 would be better for a PCIe 3.0 platform because it is X16 versus the 5060ti which might be bandwidth limited at 3.0 X8?

Been out of the PC building game for about 5 years, looking to upgrade from my meme mini-ITX PC to a full ATX workstation
Daily Linux so wanting full AMD for those sweet Linux-friendly drivers
In need of help with the following:
>An ATX case with optical drive bay(s) and no glass or rainbow lights nonsense, under 150 USD
>A no-frills AM5, ATX motherboard under 200 USD

pulled the trigger on 9950x3d
performance boost in autistic map sims compared to 3900x should be substantial

I want to replace pads on my GPU, contacted support and was told the stock ones are 1,75mm. As far as I can see nobody makes pads in that thickness, it's either 1,5mm or 2mm.
What do?

>>105745116
why would you want to have a boomer disk drive?
just use an external usb bluray drive

>>105745111
>using static images to show difference in a moving image
You people are mentally ill.

>>105745029
That's a damn shame because I really want those. They run significantly cooler.

>>105745120
Use thermal putty. Don't need to measure just eyeball it.

>>105745102
Technically would average out better but most games it would make literally 0 difference. The issue is exaggerated on the 8gb cards since you'll actually be exceeding vram, but then you also have to deal with 8gb on amd not being equivalent to 8gb on Nvidia.

>>105745139
I have no real sources but Sapphire is more likely to have Samsung since they produce more cards overall. They switch up chips when they run out of supply and the people making more cards are more likely to run out.

>>105745155
>but then you also have to deal with 8gb on amd not being equivalent to 8gb on Nvidia.
?

>>105745131
2 optical bays would be ideal, so I can use one of pic rel plus an actual optical drive

>>105745140
How long does that last? Doesn't it end up drying out or deforming over time?

>>105745048
Thank you! Now that we've trimmed it down, let's build it up a little bit...

I want 32-bit PhysX support. I want a GPU that runs 100W less electricity cooler than a 5090. I want something SLIM so that I can fit it into this case on a board which moves the GPU slot down to expose a PCIEx1 above it.

So, now let's (re)visit an updated version of what I was toying with before this Mini ITX board (Lian Li Dan A3 case will fit Micro ATX like this):

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QxRVQd

>might go for an addiitonal 96gb ram by way of 4x48 for 192 gb ddr5-6000

>>105745102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsSUPuvHI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20uM4gjq5w0

There are plenty of videos on this. Based on these videos the card does seem to be affected. Some games less than others from 0% difference to a 10% difference.
The 9060 XT would not suffer any bottlenecking on PCIe 3.0 but it is a slower card overall.

>>105745175
again, are you actually using any of that shit?
just have an external card reader and disk drive for rare occasions when you actually need them
there are basically no good cases with bays these days and for a good reason
they are obsolete and get in the way of good airflow

>>105745188
If you buy high quality putty then it's the same as high quality paste. Mx-6 can go for 6-8 years before you need to change it.

kopite7kimi is jensen

>>105745229
It's an aib employee. my bet is someone with ties to MSI since they awful security.

>>105745189
It's 'fine™'
There are some questionalbel choices like RAM capacity, and I would definitely double check the SSD and PSU for QLC and reliability respectively, but otherwise I don't see any-
>Biostar

Fucking why? with the A620 chipset of all things. I be fair, I'm currently using it myself, but that's with an -X3D processor I KNOW I can't overclock.

>>105745229
he's a brittbong which narrows it down a little

>>105745189
>$400 CPU
>$140 MB

>>105745217
I want every port known to man in one box
Minimalism was a mistake, maximalism is the future

>>105745246
Priorities, amirite?

>>105745116
>>An ATX case with optical drive bay(s) and no glass or rainbow lights nonsense, under 150 USD
Cooler Master N400

>>A no-frills AM5, ATX motherboard under 200 USD
ASRock B850 Pro-A, but you need to update the board BIOS (3.30 or higher) before you install the CPU.
ASRock has had issues with its boards killing CPUs.
If the updated BIOS completely resolves the issue, that board is fine.

>>105745120
You can buy the 2mm and slightly squish it with a rolling pin or some other instrument.
That's how Northwest Repair gets his thermal pad dimensions right (pasta maker).

>>105745139
The VRAM vendor lottery isn't the end of the world, you won't feel the difference in actual gaming.

>>105745163
NTA, but NVIDIA GPUs have more on-die cache. That's why NVIDIA cards generally have lower VRAM utilization compared to Radeon cards.
This is also why Radeon cards benefit more from SAM/Resizable-Bar, it reduces their VRAM bottleneck.

>>105745254
Yeah, you're definitely not using the legacy stuff, so unless you have a specific use-case, you're spending money for the sake of spending money.

>>105745163
Depends on what game engine/workload but usually however much vram on amd will run out faster than the same on Nvidia.
Easy to replicate example would be I think all of the big ue5 games are fine on like a 2060 super but will eventually start having issues on a 6600/7600.
It's been a difference since at least maxwell and whatever amd's equivalent was, the r9 whatever.

>>105745267
>you won't feel the difference in actual gaming.
I will hear it though. The card runs cooler overall without the VRAM trying to hit 95ºC like the Hynix chips. I see that the Samsung modules run around 80ºC so the fan RPMs can be much lower.

>>105745111
the guy is not interested in buying a used crt

>>105745116
Take a look at some of Fractal Design's offerings, mind you'll probably have to order those since they're no necessarily as popular, especially if you want to get an actual panel and not tempered glass.

>>105745283
I wasn't interested in providing useful information either, I was just shitting all over modern display technology.

>>105745278
Each card is hand built by someone else. They don't always get pads or paste right. It varies to card to card same as a lottery. You can get a Samsung chips board where someone misaligned the pads and now it's hitting 105C.

>>105745292
I forgot to add, but the Define series looks clean as fuck.

Their other cases aren't terrible, but from what I understand, you're taking the 'no frills' angle.

>>105745305
theres also a chance of general defects
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/defective-rx-9070-xt-card-with-pitted-silicon-gpu-surface-runs-extremely-hot-report-indicates-its-unclear-if-this-was-an-isolated-incident

>>105745243
>>105745258
Thank you for your support. I am now going to New York in order to party with Ukrainian girls. I'll probably order when I return... assuming nobody else snags a $3333 MSI 4090 :/ lol.
>>105745246
Did you see the $70 mobo on my other build which this build is an upgrade from? While the kid in me wants all the bells & whistles of X870E, the grownup in me knows that you only need a motherboard that's (a) rock-solid stable, and (b) enough of a mobo for your cpu & gpu to run.

I'm not overclocking. I'm not hunting single-digit percentage gains (I'm already pushing twelve cores and a flagship vidya kard). I'm not looking to *waste* electricity. I'm patient. I might even underclock it.

>note my 1000 watt psu

A kilowatt PSU.

A KILOWATT PSU IS CONSIDERED ANEMIC TODAY! Hah! Hey, this is how I see it:

Kilowatt Space Heater for $5K that also does math and makes money.

I'm stoned and really have to get going but I'm having too much of a good time ITT to leave just yet (and don't have to be in NYC for hours).

>holler at me regarding lian li dan a3 cases yo

Is this still accurate?

>>105745267
>You can buy the 2mm and slightly squish it with a rolling pin or some other instrument.
I don't know what the compressibility of these things is, I would imagine they are quite solid in order to have good conductivity.
I'm thinking I'll take the old ones and measure the thickness where they actually contact the memory modules, if it ends up being like 1mm then I think compressing a 2mm down to 1 might be a bit too much.

>>105745217
Not him but I prefer a direct card reader for my camera because using dongles is shit slow and uncouth
And having extra audio jacks has helped me with redundancy along with using external sata drivges

>>105745278
>>105745305
I don't know if it's still a thing (and probably still is) but your memory will typically be whatever was cheapest at the time of assembly.

I remember when the overclocking potential of certain cards would depend on the VRAM's manufacturer, where you were lucky to get Samsung.

In my experience though, overclocking is the equivalent of driving a hot rod to go grocery shopping, especially when modern cars are already pretty high performance as it is.

And for what? Maybe a few more FPS in certain scenarios? All while compromising system stability and/or the lifespan of a rather expensive product?

>>105745380
You can get 5-10% extra free performance depending on your luck. Undervolting automatically overclocks AMD GPUs and it's perfectly safe.

>>105745380
in the case between samsung and hynix, they run at different voltages and timings by default. thats why samsung is 2% slower out of the box but they run cooler. but you cant oc them as much as they hit the voltage ceiling compared to hynix.

>>105745358
Yes. Get an optane if you want to be blown away.

>>105745415
>samsung is 2% slower out of the box
You don't see any difference in gaming. I've only seen the performance hit in synthetic benchmarks.

>>105745365
That’s why some people advise you to choose relatively soft thermal pads.
Don’t rely too much on the conductivity ratings, there’s no uniform standard of rating it.
https://youtu.be/VIUU5ogVHg8

>>105745377
To each their own.
I used to support a videography department, and you learn that everyone has their preferences, whether from software or hardware.
>Asked on employee, assuming all were equivalent, if he would ever switch to a Windows PC
>Keep in mind, this was when Mac was still selling their trash cans that they never bothered to upgrade during the six years they sold them
>"No--okay, why?"
>Having the re-learn the keybindings for Windows would set him back a month minimum.

>>105745429
you see the difference when you're bottlenecked by memory bandwidth. so vr,4k/8k gaming,ai, etc.

does 9070xt bottleneck 9800x3d?

>>105745295
>CRT is peak display technology
yes everything is shit can we move on now

>>105745476
Yes it does.

>>105745400
When possible, I typically set the lowest TDP for all my (AMD) CPU's, while enabling PBO, and I feel like I hit 90% of my processor's potential for zero work or system instability.

For GPU's, I just use whatever the quietest fan settings are because fuck fan noise.

>>105745481
what gpu pairs best with it?

>>105745498
>because fuck fan noise.
>hotspot hitting 105ºC

why do you have to specifiy country when the country is already part of the pcpartpicker link? just send the correct link?

>>105745476
It depends.
And for that matter, X3D chips typically only excel at lower resolutions, ie. CPU bottlenecks.

If you can spare the money, there's no reason NOT to get it, but otherwise that money could be better spent elsewhere.

>>105745508
Yeah, if you buy from a shitty manufacturer.

>>105745501
9070 XT is still a reasonable “value” combo for that chip.
5070 Ti generally has a premium, 5080 is grossly overpriced, and the 5090 costs over $3000.

>>105745519
Some anons just ask build advice without using that website.

>>105745501
Jensen says we must suffer

>>105745189
>>105745342
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QxRVQd
FUCK! The A620 chipset is for 65w cpus, but the 9900X is over an hundred watts higher (170w). :/

Looks like I'll be going for a "real" mobo, after all.

>monitoring this & other threads later omw 2 nyc uwu

>>105745532
so should i wait for the 9080xt or something then?

>>105745476
in which scenarios?
AAAslop will almost always be gpu bottle necked

>>105745563
just asking if its reasonable to go overkill on the cpu with such a card

>>105745532
From what I understand
>It's only worth getting the Ti cards for Nvidia
>Only get the 16GB cards for current AMD
>Nvidia have objectively better cards, but they come at a premium
>AMD is 'gud enuff™' for people who want to save money
>Otherwise FSR(3) still isn't as good as DLSS3/4

>my favorite company has better fake frames than your favorite company!!!
...

>>105745576
Again, it's fine™
I would un-ironically use one myself if they actually made a dual fan card that would fit into my LAN rig.

Just keep in mind the X3D's limitations, if you choose to go with that.

>>105745580
>>Otherwise FSR(3) still isn't as good as DLSS3/4
FSR4 is pretty much equal to DLSS CNN

>>105745580
>Only get cards with 16GB or more VRAM for AMD
Fixed

>>105745559
There won’t be a 9080 XT, chip development is very costly and AMD is not going to release a larger Navi 4X GPU as a mid gen release card.
There’s a workstation Radeon card that’s using the 9070XT’s Navi48 GPU with 32GB VRAM.

>>105745616
First time I've heard the term CNN being used.

Mind giving me the quick and dirty?

>>105745609
what limitations exactly?

>NVIDIA also planning GeForce RTX 5070 Ti SUPER with 24GB GDDR7 memory

THANK YOU BASED HOLY SAVIOURS NVIDIA

>>105745624
you dont need more than 16gb. anything that requires more wont run good no matter how much you have anyway

>>105745637
Nvidia has a new Transformer model that makes the image super sharp, at the cost of more performance.

>>105745661
It's barely a performance hit though. Like 5% performance hit even on a 2 gen old Ampere card. Half that for the latest gen.

>>105745661
Is it actually being supported/adopted?

Or is this one of those global features in their control panel?

>>105745661
>>105745680
>500 billion calculations per second isnt that much bro
state of modern technology

>>105745685
>Is it actually being supported/adopted?
Everyone's Nvidia's bitch, ofcourse it's being adopted. Either by their own choice of by Nvidia paying them big money.

The new model oversharpens the image too much, I think.

>>105745654
>You don't need more than 16GB
Now, and at lower resolutions.

12GB is a good sweet spot for maybe 1440p, but 8GB is already feeling it's age.

>>105745719
how come a model thats supposed to reconstruct a high resolution frame from a low resolution frame oversharpens the frame?

>>105745691
Even Turing cards can handle the new transformer model @ playable FPS.
None of the RTX 20 cards are strong enough to run high enough RT settings where Ray Reconstruction has to be enabled.

>>105745723
Nevermind, I thought you were emphasizing 8GB and not 16GB.

4K might push the envelope, but you're fine if you temper your expectations and/or use upscaling.

I find it unbelievable how Nvidia is _always_ one step ahead of AMD. It's going to take 3-4 years before we see an equivalent tech from AMD.

>>105744938
>but you are not afraid of having a vastly inferior display instead?
i just feel like its worth worrying about since a large portion of my screen time includes static ui elements which are the things that tend to cause burn in. I've heard that dark mode can help prevent burn in but it doesnt do so completely. apparently some level of burn in on oleds is inevitable at least according to posts ive seen.

>>105745781
OLED burn in is inevitable, the way you use it will affect how quickly it happens (static content, high brightness, etc).
Expect 4-5 years of peak condition of the OLED panel.
I think I’ll be able to stretch mine to 5-7 years, by that time I’ll be wanting a better display.
Display tech is advancing at a steady pace.

What 5090 do I get?
The Asus or the Gigabyte?

>>105745844
the one that is binned or something like that, yeah

Are the rt cores in blackwell even any better than ada?

>>105745844
>>105745857
I should add they are giving me $480 for my 4070 Super.

>>105745844
GIGABYTE said this is totally fine btw not rma worthy

>>105745866
>rt cores
meme

>>105745876
does this affect amd gpus?

>>105745844
Whatever is quietest or has the best thermals.

Try to find a reputable review site, as well as look into buyer reviews, mind take those with a healthy grain of salt since people typically only review things when they're shills or disgruntled (or both.)

>>105745872
just buy whatever. theres no big difference. go to like one of these AI chats and ask it to compare the 2 with the search feature enabled

>>105745637
DLSS upscaling used to work on the Convolutional Neural Network model. Now it works on the Transformer model.
Benefits: on average it leads to better image quality especially during motion, and allegedly the T model has a much higher ceiling than the CNN model and can theoretically get way better.
Negatives: the DLSS-T algorithm is a bit harder to run depending on how old your GPU is: for an RTX5000 card the T model runs barely any worse than the CNN model, for an RTX2000 card it's a considerable cost to the point where DLSS-T Performance runs like DLSS-CNN Quality.

>>105745880
You're a meme. Bitch

>>105745910
cant get more than 1000fps with raytracing on any setup. its a meme

>>105745920
>cant get more than 1000fps

>>105745929
ok shill

>>105745929
ok shill

>>105745885
Unfortunately yes. If you have a Gigabyte card, don’t vertically mount it.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/gigabytes-so-called-server-grade-thermal-conductive-gel-and-a-degrading-thermal-paste-on-the-radeon-rx-9070-gaming-oc/

>>105745895
Seems to lean to the ASUS.

>>105745979
try to ask for each card seperatly in the same chat and then make it compare them

>>105746009
Not sure what you mean cause it did compare them. I just asked it to pick one and it picked the ASUS.

>>105746036
ok

The video that BRUTALLY DESTROYED and RAPED THE SOULS of AMD NIGGERS forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPABpqfb7xg

So NVIDIA promote a new dlss that will reduce vram usage and at the same time it's leaked they have Super cards with no changes except more VRAM to use?

>>105746105
The odd thing is AMD uses both more VRAM and more System RAM to do the same thing

>>105746113
>Super cards with no changes except more VRAM to use?
They're for poor ai niggers + maybe to combat the perception of Nvidia cards not having enough memory.

>>105746113
>fake resolution
no thanks

>>105744883
i meant it
why do these appear greyed out?

>>105744634
two weeks special burn in operation

>>105746138
idk, prob cuz of the compatability filter or cuz they are out of stock

>>105744687
> MPG 274URDFW E16M
It's not 32".

whats a miniLED? is it like microLED?

>>105746174
Mini LED are out now while micro are still in development. They are smaller.

Based on these values, should I return the card or keep it?

>>105746188
>Micro is smaller than mini

>>105746169
It's enough inches for the task

how can people use 32"? its way too big

>>105746201
its over. your pc has mustard gas

>>105746201
pretty cool for a radeon card

>>105746201
What brand is it--I don't particularly feel like scumming the thread for an earlier post.

Otherwise, it's fine.™ Hot spot is hot, but unless your case is a miniature wind tunnel, it's always going to be toasty under load.

>>105745652
> Status: Rumored

>>105746241
>What brand is it
Steel Legend. I wanted to buy the ASUS Prime but it would take an entire month to arrive. Every other model is too expensive.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pKXMnQ/gigabyte-aorus-elite-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-gv-r9070xtaorus-e-16gd
is this a meme

>>105746201
Also note that my ambient temperature should be around 25ºC

>>105746250
well what case is it in
you think it's getting enough airflow

>>105746204
That is the same with mini and micro usb. Mini usb is larger.

>>105746250
Before you do anything drastic, what are your options?

Last thing you want is to return your card for an even worse card.

>>105746270
This too. You could resolve any temp issues by adding or rearranging fans.

>>105746262
Gigabyte is one of the few makes that use vapour chamber BUT they use shit tier thermal paste instead of PTM. If you're unlucky you could get a card hitting the same hotspot temperatures as the cheaper "entry model" 9070XTs.

>>105746282
is the tradeoff worth it?

>>105746282
*GIGABYTE PATENTED THERMAL GEL

>>105746278
Conventional logic dictates that, yes, anything that is 'miniature' is larger than something that is 'microscopic.'

>>105746282
every fucking heatsink with heatpipes is a "vapour chamber"

>>105746270
>>105746280
P400A, exactly with these fans.
My options are the Gigabyte Gaming OC, the ASUS Prime (one month...) or the Sapphire Pulse
I know the Pulse is the obvious choice BUT i'm using an extra M.2 SSD on the 4th slot of my motherboard with an adapter because my dumbass me from 2020 bought a B450 instead of a X470 so I only have one M.2 slot. The Pulse being 3.1 slot 61.6mm, I'd have to remove it.

>>105746313
No because vapor chambers have a liquid in them. Where most heatsinks are hollow. You can create your own Venn diagram.

>>105746282
Choosing one card over another because it uses a specific thermal compound.

I'm not going to discredit PTM, but then again, not all phase-change stuff is the same. For that matter, do any manufacturers use liquid metal, or is that too much of a liability?

>>105746113
>slash vram usage by 20%
it refers to the 100mb or so dlss uses
so big fucking whoop it'll use 80mb now wow
nice bait for retards that we'll head being spouted 2 fucking years from now on
>>105746327
shut up retard

>>105746224
I use it since 2016 and on my large desk it's not too big because I sit far away.

>>105746342
You can find people on the internet with the AORUS hitting 94ºC on the hotspot, while others can do 80ºC. It's a huge difference that shouldn't exist with a vapor chamber, imo.

>>105745136
>static
that crt pic is moving anon.
you can see the slight ghosting of the white dots on the right. crt is superior and it's not even close.

>>105746369
>lines
>shit colors
>shit brightness
no thanks

>>105746321
>Sapphire
I used to like Sapphire, and then I had one bum card from them, and then never really bothered considering them since.
I'm still wary of Gigabyte since they can't seem to nail down one good design, and will come out with constant revisions.
And then Asus card typically are louder.

Again, look up formal reviews for each card model. If you can multiple from the same site, even better, since that will allow you to compare apples to apples as far as testing methodology and results.

>>105746327
The heatpipes in all those heat sinks have liquid in them bro
>>105746364
I remember amd not putting any liquid in some of their vapor chambers

i need wifi 7 since im cucked to not be allowed to use ethernet
should i buy motherboard with wifi 7 or should i buy an adapter

>>105746369
If you can spring for OLED, then you might as well spend the extra money for QD-OLED. WOLED is ass.

i need wifi 7 since im cucked to not allowed to use ethernet
should i buy motherboard with wifi 7 or should i buy an adapter

whoops sorry for doublepost, i misclcied my bad

>>105746394
>amd not putting any liquid in some of their vapor chambers
Then it is not a vapor chamber.

Is DSC noticeable?

>>105746400
If you're handy, you can replace any motherboard wifi with a better chip from Amazon. I would post a link, but 4chan will think my post is spam.

It's not terribly hard to do, but keep the original chip just in case you need to RMA the motherboard.

Is adaptive sync the same as gsync and freesync

>>105746452
yes and no, it works the same way but its missing features found in freesync/gsync.

for example they cant do low framerate compensation. only freesync premium/gsync can.

puke colored motherboard
come home indian man

>>105746369
This is not what it looks like when actually seen with your eyes, retard, your brain interpolates motioin.

>>105746452
>Gsync is a hardware solution
>Freesync is a software solution
>Adaptive sync dynamically enables/disables bog-standard Vsync depending on your monitor's max FPS.

I prefer Gsync, but that's just me. Freesync has come a long way and is much cheaper, but either technology has its advantages and disadvantages.

I did a study with Tom's Hardware in conjunction with Newegg back in the day, and they're nearly identical, where there was rampant brand-bias.
>https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-freesync-versus-nvidia-g-sync-reader-event,4246.html

>>105746452
I'll double check, but I'm pretty sure 'adaptive sync' is just a general term for the technology.

>>105746516
gsync is largely a windows meme. its broken as shit everywhere else. freesync works perfectly everywhere. freebsd, linux, windows, mac, etc.

>>105746539
>linux
isnt that a server OS?

>>105746539
Yeah, because go figure Linux doesn't want to pay the Nvidia tax, not even kidding.

>>105746420
Not from my experience. I used to get annoyed by DSC because it wouldn't let me enable VSR/DSR on my 4k panel, that's the only drawback.

>>105746563
>>105746516
I forgot to mention
>Gsync is a proprietary standard with an associated cost premium
>Freesync is an open standard

any good sims on sale at steam? /v/ hates sims

Does anyone know what the fucking difference between
>Acer Nitro XV272UP
and
>Acer Nitro XV272U W2
is?

>>105746650
I believe the difference is "U W2"

>>105746545
linux is the defacto gamer os. why? because you can tell the os not to load the desktop. doing this on windows basically gives it a heartattack.

>>105746705
Thank you very much bro

>>105746712
just close explorer.exe

>>105746765
that doesn't close the desktop. it just hides the start menu and icons. to kill the desktop you need to kill dwm.exe but microsoft stopped this since windows 8. doing it now just causes a blue screen.

The store is letting me put a backorder on an MSRP 5070 TI and will give me the first one they get in, my options are:
Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti WindForce SFF
MSI GeForce RTX 5070 TI SHADOW 3X OC
Are any of these shit I should stay away from or better than the other? They are within about $40 price wise.

>>105746201
>>105746250
If the GPU boost clock isn't throttle I think it's fine, but return it if you have doubts.

>>105746400
I believe WiFi7 doesn't work with Windows 10 if that matters to you.

>>105746420
No, this DSC mostly matters if you like to use DLDSR at the maximum rated refresh rate & resolution.

>>105746650
The W2 is a 240Hz monitor with Display Port, but it's very mediocre with QC issues. Pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K7ioTEieps

Is buying a 1200W PSU for my pc worth it?

>>105746838
If your PC is powering a 5090, it's not too crazy to consider to high-end 1200~1300W PSU.

>>105744634
i have a plasma i still use as a desktop monitor and it has zero burn in after 13 years

>>105746838
anything less than 2000W is useless

>>105746808
I would go for the Prime, not an ASUS shill but they usually put enough effort to avoid appearing as the cheap/budget brand.
ASUS Dual cards were the better base MSRP models for the 4060 & 4070/Super.

Avoid Gigabyte cards that advertise the thermal gel "feature", it's just their way of cost-cutting. And there are QC issues.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>>105746889
I haven't really heard a bad thing about any Asus GPUs this launch tbqh

besides their high prices on anything above PRIME

>>105746342
>do any manufacturers use liquid metal
Manufacturers have to protect the rest of the board components from being exposed to Liquid metal, this TIM is only used on high-end limited production cards like the 4090 Matrix.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4090-matrix-platinum/2.html

How is this for a 4K gaming PC build? Budget is ~1500 USD.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qv8YC8

>>105746921
I forgot to mention I was gonna grab Mobo and RAM from microcenter.

>boughtenered the 5090
>still can't win face-to-face fights in online shooters
That's fucking bullshit man.

>>105746863
I am still using a 6900xt with an 850W PSU. Just been thinking of maybe buying stronger one for future proofing and seeing if I can push this system a bit harder

>>105746931
You need the $1000 OLED monitor OR the $1000 600Hz TN monitor

Can someone explain why there are already shipping manifest and performance leak on novalake Unless it will launch later this year instead of next year

>>105746972
It's coming next year just early. I doubt there'll be a big refresh of arrow lake coming for this year.

>>105746929
MSI Ventus and Shadow are known to run a bit loud, but some owners are happy with it after undervolting it to make it generate less heat & noise.
The rest looks fine.

>>105746946
PSU manufacturers are developing better safety features because of the 4090 & 5090, I would wait for these PSUs to be released if you're planning to own such a high-power draw video card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwxImD4t98

>>105746964
Going for the TN then, OLED has burn in.

Whats the general thoughts on Mini led va panels? I've recently come into the market again for another monitor after some unfortunate mistakes on my behalf, the AOC Q27G3XMN is 388 here and there is an Acer Nitro XV275U at another shop for 320 cad. Is it just abandoned for the most part? I just see two models available and they are both va not ips

>>105746490
I'm using the puke green motherboard with poop colored fans.

>>105746886
nobody asked

>>105747023
The black smearing is there for the Q27G3XMN but not as bad as VA panels used to be. You have to judge for yourself for these monitors.
AOC released a new 27" 1440p miniLED VA monitor with 1,152 local dimming zones (Q27G40XMN).
But there is some firmware lottery involved (bad one can't apply the best local dimming option [Strongest] when HDR is enabled).

I would take that gamble if it's available in CA and if you have the energy to deal with returns/refund in the worst case.

>>105747013
>my niggas at seasonic making their shit better as time goes by
i only buy seasonic and i will keep buying only seasonic

I wanna go OLED so bad
they all have 3 year warranties
what's the downside, really

i am not crazy if i use CRU to change monitor related shit it causes all of my games to start stuttering when vsync is on

i'm not even going to bother asking why that's happening on the cru forums though because the autist making the tool is one of "those" faggots that will never take accountability

>>105747087
modern OLEDs dont burn in

>>105747053
seems that one isn't out here yet, all i'm seeing is the Q27G3XMN. I might wait for that then.
Seems kind of depressing that two years ago I could find mini leds for about the same price they are now, and oleds use to be on sale for sub 600 bucks in some cases, seems I broke my other monitor at a shitty time unfortunately

Is there an actual difference between VESA DisplayHDR True Black 400 and HDR400? I'm seeing that vesa shit on newer monitors

>>105747095
why do you even need CRU? AMD has their own timings tool in their driver. Nvidia can make custom resolutions in their driver too. The only usecase I can think of for this is Intel GPU.

>>105747087
>what's the downside, really
Price.

>>105747143
i can't
1. change vrr range
2. delete tv resolutions
3. replace default resolutions
4. delete hdr flags from monitors i don't want to use hdr on
etc
there are hundreds of reasons to want to use it beyond this

>>105747158
1.that causes more problems than its worth
2.never felt the need to delete resolutions on my displays
3.the default is native res+hz
4.windows has hdr options but you need to be on bleeding edge version

>>105747095
if you can't pass this it's because you're using settings your monitor can't handle
https://www.testufo.com/frameskipping

>>105747180
i don't need a list of copes or reasons why you don't use it because i literally do not care about you and this has nothing to do with you

>>105747189
>delete tv resolutions
>now i stutter in games
>ummm ahkshually, your monitor can't handle the settings you changed
please stop responding to me with nonsense you're actually annoying me now

use case for vrr when you can just use gsync/freesync?

>>105747195
what do you want us to say? it works on my machine

>>105747191
just saying theres no reason to use cru when you can use the official driver. if you cant use the driver then you have issues to begin with.

>>105747211
phones have vrr. they dont have amd or nvidia.

>>105747224
>gaming on a phone

>>105747111
Ask Best Buy CA about the monitor's availability, the Q27G40XMN is a Best Buy exclusive item in the US.
Monitors Unboxed Tim got the functional unit and he liked it, but the monitor is limited to Display Port 1.2 (10-bit color limited to 120Hz).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDOybDnJ9cM

Read up about VA's VRR flicker too, not trying to scare you away but you should know what you're buying into.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g40xmn#test_24453

PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Reaper down to $719.99 think its almost time for an upgrade
any chances the cards will drop even more?

>>105747283
> Any chances the cards will drop even more?
I'd hope so since it's one of the smallest & loudest models.

dedicated single task airgapped mini pcs (can be retro, NEVER intel)

>>105747256
thanks for the links, i'll read up on this

I finally own my own home. Dreaming about having at least 4 2005 era PC games linked together in my man cave.

Can you even build computers like that anymore? Would I just simply be selecting the cheapest of every option?

>>105747353
just head to a school or hospital they'll probably have some still in deployment

>>105747353
2005 era PCs* fuck

>>105747353
Building a Windows 7/XP retro PC should work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XTnL4Mang0

>>105745217
>just have an external card reader and disk drive for rare occasions when you actually need them
if you ever had an actual digital camera you'd know that it's more than just "rare occasions"
>they are obsolete and get in the way of good airflow
shit case issue

>>105744483 (OP)
kino op

just realised the motherboard i bought doesnt have any linux or windows 10 support, only windows 11

>>105747461
oh no, you'll have to actually use your computer now instead of trying to find open source drivers glued together poorly

>>105747326
lower end AM3+ or FM2(+), FS1b if it needs to be really low on power consumption

>>105747471
>UI written in javascript
>performance issues
>bloatware apps that forcefully reinstall when you remove them
yeah, ill pass

>>105747231
think about your tv. how does it do vrr when not connected to pc?

>>105747461
probably just means your wifi 7 only has drivers for windows 11

>>105747498
if its not connected to the pc, then its not on
i dont get what you are saying here

>>105747438
good cameras have usb connection for data transfer these days

>>105747509
yes, thats what i said

>>105747211
isn't gsync/freesync VRR?

>>105747549
no

>>105747555
stop lying you cunt

>>105747522
no you didn't you dumb frogposter

Wait for 5070 TI super in hopes of a VRAM bump or just pull the trigger now? The extra 50w through the hipwr also worries me if rumors are true.

>>105747604
1. it's marginally better than the 5070 ti
2. it won't be in stock anywhere
3. it's not even coming out for another 8 months at the very least

>>105747604
The 600W-rated 12V-2x6 cable has a greater than 1.5x safety margin below 440W power draw.
I wouldn't worry too much if you follow all the connection guidelines (for both ends of the power cable).

>>105747549
Yes and no

>>105747013
am I crazy or are these assholes just creating problems to solve?
this looks completely retarded

>>105747720
NVIDIA made the 4090 and 5090 riskier to run compared to the current load-balancing implemented on the 3090 Ti's PCB.
They're basically telling the PSU manufacturers to sort it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw

Is getting a 5070 worth it if I'm still stuck on a 1080ti or should I keep waiting?

>>105747887
Supplies for the new cards will only get worse.
NVIDIA is taking away some GeForce production capacity to make more AI chips they can legally sell to Chinese clients.

If you think you can get one of those RTX 50 Super cards at a reasonable price, maybe it's worth waiting.
No one can tell you the right answer.

What are the parts I should NOT buy off amazon.ca? Do they still have problems with scammers binning fakes and returns into new product chains?

I, taken by a bout of insanity, decided to buy a 14900kf while it was 30% off.

Now I am wondering what motherboard to put it in that does not thermally throttle it? Also what memory speeds work best with it?

>>105748036
It's the same as for all amazon's, don't buy sought after shit if you don't want the risk of having to fight them over it and having to film when you open the package and all kinds of shit, delaying your build for decades, example x3d cpus, gpus, "high" end ssds like 990 pro etc.

>>105748119
Even if I'm buying on "ships from amazon.ca; sold by amazon.ca" and not a third party seller? The horror stories apply to their own supply?

>>105748155
anything shipped by amazon ends up as mixed stock

>>105748078
Get a nice fucking liquid cooler for that chip as well.
Make sure you update the board BIOS to the one with the latest microcode (0x12F)before you install the CPU & memory modules.

>Now I am wondering what motherboard to put it in
Z790 AORUS ELITE AX (WiFi6E) or its WiFi7 variant is the feature/value board I'd get atm.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T2H7YJ/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-elite-ax
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MZWJ7P/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-x-wifi7-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-elite-x-wifi7

Use this video as a reference if you plan to tweak some settings to help the chip run more power efficiently (includes undervolting section).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMballFEmhs

>Also what memory speeds work best with it
Compatibility mostly depends on the quality of the CPU's integrated memory controller (IMC).
But I encourage you to be positive and get a 7200MT/s kit if you're building an i9 system.

>2x16GB option
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gXRwrH/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-ctced532g7200hc34adc01

>2x24GB option
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qqHqqs/teamgroup-t-create-expert-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-ctced548g7200hc34adc01

>6800MT/s option if you're a defeatest
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v626Mp/klevv-bolt-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6800-cl34-memory-kd5agua80-68a340h

Have fun tuning the CPU, because it's going to draw a lot of power and heat at the stock CPU settings.

>>105747461
skill issue

>>105748178
Btw, the 2x24GB memory option is less stressful to the memory controller compared to 2x16GB.
If you're worried about the CPU being able to run that speed & timing, get the 2x24GB kit.

>>105748036
just avoid GPUs everyone else should be fine so long as shipped and sold by amazon

>>105748193
ramlets are the weirdest of all computer nerds. they waste half their life on a billion tweaks but they cannot for the life of them replicate that shit for anyone else

They dropped the price of the gpu I bought for $20 on amazon the day after I ordered it. What happened to Trump making everything expensive?

>>105748246
>its cold today what happened to global warming

>>105748246
oh no, not the 20 dollarinos!

>>105748246
just bitch on amazon and they'll give you the $20 back

>>105748178
Ty anon.

>>105748318
ye they'll just take a few more pissbreaks from the slaves working there to make up for it.

>>105748328
they have nice breaks

j2c is doing his LN2 videos and it shows his 5090 Astrals having different PCBs and VRMs based on what revision it is??

>>105744926
>Who would a 18/24gb xx70 card even be for?
Proompters

t. on a 2060 12GB

ok, so, appearntly wifi 6e doesnt work either. fuck, what motherboard do i get then?

>>105748345
some aibs do v1 and v2 revisions. it can either be different vrm modules on nvidia or different vram on amd.

nevermind. chatggpt just wordd it weirdly

Any of you dumb ass nerds got a suggestion on a small 1080p 240hz + monitor?

define "small"

>>105748392
Like 24 inches max

>>105748404
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#F=355600000,635000000&r=192001080&D=240000,600000
just pick a random one, youll be fine

>>105747461
Lemme guess, it's that crappy MSI MPG X870E EDGE TI WIFI, right?

kek j2c

>>105748421
no, its the puke colored tomahawk one.

>>105748382
>>105748414
NTA, but I'd get the Dell G2524H or the TUF VG259QM from that filtered list.
ROG XG249CM if you want to Join the Republic™.

thank you asrock for supporting windows 10

look at the fucking clock speed
god i hate gayming laptops. thank god i am getting a PC

>>105748433
Check the driver download section of the product page, they are Windows 10 compatible (except for WiFi7).
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B850-TOMAHAWK-MAX-WIFI/support#driver

I am the biggest computer retard ever and my knowledge is limited to playing vidya. I want to know your advice to the specs and pic related, my computer that my cousin built for me 3 years ago. It runs well but my brother has almost the same as mine and he had problem with the CPU, it overheated

Here are the specs:

>Motherboard: ROG Strix B550-F Gaming wifi
>Monitor: Asus VG27A
>Power supply: Rosewill 850w 80plus bronze
>Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mid-Tower ATX with 2 front fans, no fans at the rear
>GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 msi
>CPU: AMD Ryzen 5900X 12-Core processor
>RAM: 2x16GB Kingston DIMM DDR4 2667MT/S
>Storage: 1TB SSD kingston SA2000M81000G
>Heat sink CPU: Not sure but seems to be generic AMD Wraith air cooler

Anything wrong with it? I'd like to add a 2 or 4TB memory because I want to get into gamedev using UE5/blender, maybe change the heatsink and add a rear exhaust fan

Also, what kind of maintenance/optimization do I need to do? I just gently air spray it outside to remove dust but what else? I'm afraid to play in the settings/guts of the computer as I am a total noob. Do I need to tinker with the BIOS? Do I need to defrag my memory? Do I need to play in the settings of windows/nvidia? I just want it to last a long time, keep it cool and quiet. I don't know where to look for basic computering 101 :(

>>105748467
i already checked
the wifi 7 thing is the dealbreaker, why would i buy a expensive wifi chip that i cannot use?

>>105748467
>>105748478
oh nevermind, thats a different motherboard
same issue though

>>105747509
No, that is the case with ASRock Nova, but MSI explicitly say that you can only install Windows 11 on their MPG X870E EDGE TI WIFI.

>>105748477
>Anything wrong with it?
AMD stock CPU cooler will probably thermal throttle a 5900X.
You can buy an affordable dual-tower cooler like the Peerless Assasin V3.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vZfV3C/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-v3-7084-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120se-v3

Memory speed is underwhelming, is that without XMP/DOCP enabled?
Download HWInfo and show us the system summary
https://www.hwinfo.com/
3200MT/s CL16 or 3600MT/s CL18 is the recommended XMP/DOCP (easy automatic overclock) option.

>Also, what kind of maintenance/optimization do I need to do?
I wouldn't mess with the BIOS, cleaning out the dust is nice.

>>105748492
now what do you think would actually happen if you tried to install windows 10 or linux on it

>>105748448
better hope it wont fry your cpu

>>105748566
why would it do that? i trust asrock

>>105748478
You would buy it if you don't intend/want/need to use the onboard Wifi. And all other boards with Wifi 7 have the same problem: there is no Windows 10 driver for it.

you guys ever notice how AMD invented AMD64?

>>105748576
yeah but why would i buy something i dont use? thats kinda dumb

>>105748448
But they don't provide a WiFi7 driver for Windows 10. No manufacturer does.

>>105748602
yes thats because its wifi6e. my isp doesnt have more than 100mb anyway

>>105748522
I heard that the Phantom spirit evo runs even cooler and there's even a Pearless assassin 140 so which one would be better?

>memory speed
I have no idea, I just command prompt to see what kind of RAM sticks I have. Is my computer enough for gamedev like UE5 and blender? Can I add a 4TB storage? I know ram sticks should be the same, I was wondering if it's the same thing for storage like can I add a 4TB or do I need to stick with a 1TB?

can someone help me fix my gpu? it wont appear in device manager. i think it might be broken

>>105748574
I'm guessing this is a genuine question.
https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-goes-on-record-confirms-ryzen-cpu-failures-are-linked-to-bios-settings-offers-warranty-support

ASRock rep that spoke to GN Steve wasn't completely sure their BIOS update resolves the issue either.
>We found that our original values for these two settings might have been too high.
>So now, with BIOS version 3.25, we lowered the PBO values. We believe this can solve the problem.
>We believe this can solve the problem.

Rep gave himself a bit of wiggle room.

>>105748621
this doesnt actually happen though. its all the same shit from china anyway, the only difference is the values. so i will just change the values myself

>>105748607
Peerless Assassin 140 would probably be the best out of the three.
>Is my computer enough for gamedev like UE5 and blender?
I think it's good enough. 12 core Zen 3 CPU and the 3080 is still decent.
You might be bottlenecked by the 10GB VRAM of the 3080, but don't buy a new video card until you run into this problem.

>Can I add a 4TB storage?
Yes you can. Check the storage section of the official spec sheets.
B550 Strix-F is a higher-end B550 motherboard.
https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-model/spec/

>>105748595
You will always buy something you don't use because the motherboards are packed with more or less meaningful features. Maybe it's 2 of the DIMM slots or the PCIe 3.0x1 slot or the TPM chip or something else. A WiFi module is cheap and happens to be included, you might as well buy a WiFi PCIe card for small money like 15 bucks if you want WiFi with Windows 10.

>>105748663
ok true. thats why im buying wifi 6e though. its the best that has windows 10 support, so i dont have to buy extra to use it, and if i ever need more bandwidth on linux i can buy an adapter or whatever

>>105748631
Hey man, I like ASRock boards too.
I'd love to recommend the B850 Pro-A WiFi, B850 Livemixer, and the X870E Nova without all the disclaimers.

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>>105748621
It was the first time they admitted a mistake of their own (too high PBO values) and that's why I believe they fixed it. Everything works stable and within normal parameters here. And I don't change any settings in the AMD submenu of the BIOS that should be redundant but maybe stack to result in fatal values.

>>105745175
I burn DVDs and CDs all the damn time

>>105748337
If that isn't a joke it's the most normie dystopian thing I've seen

why would OP be such a fag and recommend 9070xt over 7900xtx?

>>105748367
If it's because you want Win 10 I did the research on it a couple of weeks ago. Basically the list was something like this:

1. Asus TUF Gaming B650/B650M-Plus WiFi
2. MSI MAG B650M Mortar WiFi/MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI
3. Gigabyte B650M/B650M Aorus Elite AX. This one is trickier since they have like 10 different versions and some work and some don't.

I had to do deep research for this, not only did I visit the motherboards manufacturers sites and checked the drivers, I crosschecked it with, check this, Reddit and some boards which said they had drivers for Win 10 Wifi/Bluetooth didn't, like the Asus Tuf Gaming B850/B850M

The boards that have Wifi 6 should be safe, but needs to be crosschecked anyways. I've debated if I should just suck it up and go with a B850M to get that pcie 5.0 16x but I just can't give upp to the devils at microsoft and use win 11.

>>105749022
probably because it's not 2022 and nobody needs that RDOA3 ebay tier abandonware

>>105749120
it has significantly noticeable and measurable better performance

>>105746201
open gpu z
under vram, if it says gddr6 (hynix) then keep it. otherwise if it says gddr6 (samsung) then return it

>>105748477
>not using 3 separate power connectors and daisy changing
Ask me how i know you are a retarded dumb cunt

Would this layout work well? I feel like if I put the AIO on the top its going to really limit the hot air trying to get out of the case and the warm air of the GPU is just going to go through the AIO.

>>105749585
don't use an intake on the rear unless it's dust filtered

>>105749585
thats one of the dumbest setups i've ever seen in my life anon. Put the AIO on the top, have the fans on the bottom EXHAUST air, not intake, and make the rear fan exhaust aswell. The GPU will be blowing air down and the bottom fans will assist sucking that air out, the rear exhaust fan is to keep moving air away from the VRMs + capacitors around the cpu.

>>105746886
TWU

>>105749901
>The GPU will be blowing air down and the bottom fans will assist sucking that air out

What are you talking about? Do you mean with a sideways video card mount? Unless your video card has reversible fans or you've DIY'd it to be reverse, video cards blow off the sides of the card, the back, or a hole in the backplate on the nose of the card. If you do a downdraft case flow with a normal card it's just going recirculate.

There's no much difference between intake on top or bottom with magnetic dust filters.

Also we should be asking this guy what this computer is for, does he do production work loads with CPU or GPU? Does he do production and does it matter at all? If it's a themed case that's not going to throttle either way it should just be what looks best or cleans the easiest.

>>105749585
Intake:
>front
>bottom
>side
Exhaust:
>rear
>top
99/100 times this is what you want.