Thread 105820225

Or would it decrease tech productivity because you're missing work for 1 week every 2 years?

Do Americans not get 1 month of paid leave off work every year?

>>105820410
Who pays for your 1 month off? The taxpayers? Fuck this communist shit.

>>105820225 (OP)
That is the most HR Indian take I've ever heard. Leave it to an Indian to overcomplicated some simple concept to appear smarter.

>>105820225 (OP)
mutts unironically reinvented vacation as a new exotic concept and gave it a new name

>>105820410
No. Best you get now is 12 paid federal holidays and 1 week PTO that you have to use if you get sick. After 5 years you get another week (2 total). After 20 years you get another week. No retirement but they'll match 1% on a 401k.

>>105820410
Nope. "Standard" is like 2 weeks, not contiguously useable. Usually you have to work at a company for a long time to get a 3rd week, and eventually a fourth. 4 weeks vacation is a pretty big perk 2bh.

I hate American work/corporate culture. Fucking cancer.

I'm taking my third microretirement this year in about two weeks. Have two more planned before the end of year.

>>105820225 (OP)
Americans are so bizarre

I get unlimited PTO at my current company, but if I don't use 30 in a year I get yelled at, and have it forcefully assigned at the end of the year

>>105820916
Weirdly I work for a US company but in the UK and we get 30 paid data off a year, with the option to carry 5 and buy an additional 5 so a total of 40 days or 8 weeks off a year. If I don't take the minimum amount (25) I would get carried in to an HR meeting and have they forcibly assigned. There's no option not to use them, although I can sell 5.

we used to call those vacations

>>105820507
Zoomers do that with everything
Like how they """invented""" 'dopamine decor', which involves filling your living space with things you enjoy

Shit, this just reminded me I have 2 weeks vacation to use before year ends

>>105821058
>dopamine decor
Isn't that just kitsch essentiality?

Let's try all working in a different job every month.

i micro-retire every other week

>>105821047
A vacation is when you take your wife and children to Disneyland. A micro-retirement is when you edge to porn for 14 days before finally cooming.

>>105820410
>>105820842
>>105820866
one of the few perks of my 3rdie shithole. 99% of companies i worked for were american and WHEN i got vacation days it was federal holidays + 7d per 5y worked
i make a lot less now but i get 30d + federal holidays + state holidays + unlimited sick days (if you have a drs note stating it's a debilitating disease - they tend not to fuck around with those because faking them can lead to losing their license)
i miss making 2x as much but there are perks

>>105820225 (OP)
Isn't that just a holiday?

>>105820916
Ive never understood unlimited PTO. Why would you ever come into work?

>>105820410
I dunno where all these wagies work, but at my job I just say I'm gonna take a vacation from X to Y. I get 15 vacation days plus 3 personal choice holidays (cultural inclusivity shit) which can add up to an entire month off all at once if I felt like it.
Company basically shuts down in december so nobody gets mad if you disappear around the holidays

>>105822171
Unlimited PTO is a perk that implies that if you meet your objectives, it doesn't matter how much time you get off. It's a sign of trust between employers and employees and exists primarily in highly skilled and highly profitable positions.

>>105822171
What >>105822428 said, you can get unlimited time off provided you actually do the shit you're paid to do, which becomes impossible if you just stop showing up

>>105820225 (OP)
Is this a joke? We get a month to 6 weeks per year in europe.
>Hurr durr 2 weeks every one and a half year is micro-retirement
80% of Managers in the USA need to be gassed and the other 20% need to watch.

>>105822942
No. I had to work for like five years at my last job before I had 4 weeks of PTO, and I couldn't take more than two consecutively.
I want to move to Europe but I don't have any language skills and I don't know where I would go.

>>105823195
The UK, obviously. Just don't go to London.

>>105823240
why would he move from one third world failing country to another?

>>105820225 (OP)
I was slightly bummed about Monday, but then I remembered that I am not working in America.

>>105823240
>>105823252
Yeah. I have friends in the UK and they want to leave for the continent as well.

>>105821387
I have just learned that I take 26 micro-retirements every year

>>105823252
Because
1. You lack the language skills to go anywhere else
2. It's the same in every other European nation. Even in surrounding nations if we're entirely honest.

>>105820225 (OP)
Yes, tomorrow I will microretire. But then the day after I'll be back at work in time for a micro-scrummage just before I take my half hour mid-day-microboost at which time I will consume my onions meal replacement beverage. Truly ready to microcharge my stomach's microbiome with micronutrients rationed by microprograms running on microcomputers.

>>105820225 (OP)
I will say this euros got the whole vacation time thing right.

>>105823353
America was built by uncut men. Genital mutilation only became popular in the 1950s.

>>105820410
Startup I worked at had unlimited vacays

>>105822171
Obviously you don't take every day off, but it's mostly a "no one's keeping track".

If you do you stay up to speed it's fine.

>>105823195
If you're in tech anywhere worth working at uses English as the workplace language.

>>105820225 (OP)
Microretirements? What? Like a vacation? That's literally a vacation.

>>105820225 (OP)
That's a fucking vacation and a damn pathetically small one.

>>105820225 (OP)
Where I live, we call this a "holiday". This concept terrifies middle management.

>>105820842
>that you have to use if you get sick
How is that real? Medieval serfa had it better.
Don't you have unions or something?

>>105823275
And your pp and prostate are still functioning?

>work 8h (9-10h because of grind culture)
>1-2h commute
Unironically why don't mutts revolt? I'd rather be homeless than slave away in that fashion.

>>105820225 (OP)
what is this retardation? is this ai slop or something?
>>105822428
You're an idiot. Nowhere that gives unlimited PTO respects you. It's an HR scam. An accounting trick. If they don't define your vacation days you don't accrue vacation time. They owe you nothing. Accrued vacation goes onto the books as a debt owed by the company to you. This is why companies limit what you can accrue and sometimes companies will force vacations to lower their debt. When you leave a job with accrued vacation you get PAID for those days. If you leave an unlimited PTO job you get NOTHING. And employees with unlimited PTO actually use fewer vacation days.

>>105820225 (OP)
>one to two week break from work every 12 to 18 months.
We call those Vacation Days.

>>105820418
The employer, retard.

>>105820410
They are too busy making more money and paying less taxes.

>>105820225 (OP)
HAHAHAHA
Do Sharts Really? Is it truly that grim in Yankland?
Holy shit. How are the Jeets outcompeting you when you work like slaves already? What more do your elites want?

>gloating about 1+ month of people not working
No wonder so much industry has left Europe for Asia and North America

>>105820410
I get 5 weeks

>>105829459
>What more do your elites want?
Actual slaves.

>>105822428
>>105822922
got it, thanks anons

>>105823558
How does that work?

>>105829885
if youre paid hourly i dont see that as a problem

>>105829896
Do Americans count unpaid hours as vacation

>>105829896
Problem is if you take too much time off, not only do you sacrifice a lot of pay, but the risk increases that they'll fire you.

>>105829989
this is the downside
i was talking from the point of view of the employer
>>105829922
wouldnt surprise me
in fact
im surprised that american employers dont sue their employees for the damages their absence causes to the company
because every day
every night, more precisely
thats 16 perfectly good workhours that go to waste because wagies need their "sleep" and "time with their families"

they should take a page from the book of japanese workers
thats a model they all should aspire to

>>105825710
unions hardly exist in tech

>>105825868
Your pp and prostate only become stronger the more you use them. Soon that anon's pp will go full super saiyan and destroy the earth in a single cum.
Learn to train your pp and prostate instead of wage slave and you won't have to be subservient to your boss.

>>105830487
> greece 370bc
> king
what?

>>105820225 (OP)
We used to call those "vacations"