LLMs can't reason - /g/ (#105843865) [Archived: 410 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:56:13 AM No.105843865
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shrug
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and vibe coding doesn't work.
Try this prompt on any LLM of your choice.
All of them will reply very confidently with a totally nonsensical response. And asking them to fix it only results in more garbage code being generated.
https://pastebin.com/z9GKcP9G
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:57:12 AM No.105843871
>>105843865 (OP)
I agree but I'm not clicking your shady link.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:58:11 AM No.105843876
>>105843871
this, stay safe
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:01:34 AM No.105843897
>>105843871
>>105843876
lurk for 2 years before posting
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:07:23 AM No.105843922
>>105843865 (OP)

Oh wow an intentionally confusing set of instructions leads to confusion? Jesus fuck men, i think you are onto something here.

Thank god the troglodytes and the apocaliptic retards can count on your genious to stem the AI tide, its over for altman now.

But yeah, vibe coders are retarded. So theres that.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:08:09 AM No.105843925
>>105843865 (OP)
It doesn't matter. Programming is dead and I cannot cope any more.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:12:04 AM No.105843941
>>105843865 (OP)
Anyone notice how "prompt engineering" is just telling the AI exactly how to do something? I watched some videos with prompt "hacks" and they spend more time writing the prompt than it would take to write the code.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:19:43 AM No.105843985
>LLMs can't reason
Neither do i, which is why i believe in an AI utopia (legally retarded and with a caretaker).
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:35:10 AM No.105844067
>>105843922
It's either confusing ultra specific prompts, or having your code butchered by the LLM deciding to randomly and silently remove functionality.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:39:37 AM No.105844083
>>105843865 (OP)
bro your prompt is nonsense
>Move the batch line to before the microbatch line.
>Tell me what needs to be changed in the code using byte accurate search and replace blocks including indentation.
WTF?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:44:57 AM No.105844112
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>>105843897
But I've been here for 16 years?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:51:58 AM No.105844147
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>>105843865 (OP)
It literally doesn't matter. So long as AI can reliably replace human cognitive labor, we're cooked.

>but muh qualia muh chinese room muh p-zombies AI doesn't have real consciousness

Nobody cares incel freak. Have sex, nigger.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:53:54 AM No.105844160
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The more I see AI deniers cope, the more I understand why more and more companies are hiring cheap Indian labor
>Noo this thing can't reason
>Nooo this thing only produce garbage
>Look at this, the LLM will start hallucinating if I give it a confusing, contradictory prompt
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:06:05 AM No.105844232
>>105843865 (OP)
Everyone who knows a little bit of coding knows this. Sometimes they hallucinate so hard, they drag you into dead end rabbit holes, making you waste a considerable amount of time.
AI can be good to prompt you with options on how to proceed in certain scenarios, but from there, it's up to you to decide which path to follow and how to implement it.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:07:57 AM No.105844244
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>>105844083
>Move the batch line to before the microbatch line.
>Tell me what needs to be changed in the code using byte accurate search and replace blocks including indentation.
Yes, what's the problem? Are you dumb?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:10:06 AM No.105844255
>>105844160
Confusing for low IQ niggers like you. Nothing is contradictory about that prompt.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:12:42 AM No.105844270
>>105844244
I'm not a programmer but I suspect there's far better ways to say whatever the fuck it is you're trying to say here. Maybe AI isn't compatible with autism and that's your major issue. Funny thing is normal people aren't compatible with you either, so you're just proving yourself to be incompatible with any entity that can communicate.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:18:15 AM No.105844307
>>105844270
>If 99% of people can't understand a scientific paper it's not because the people are incapable of understanding it, it's because the author of the paper is autistic
This is how I know autism is a psyop to pathologize high IQ. What do literal geniuses have to do with retards who shit themselves and are incapable of grasping language? Nothing. It's just an arbitrary category invented by jewish psychiatrists.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:25:59 AM No.105844353
>>105844307
>more autistic ramblings
Yeah point proven. Thanks!
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:27:21 AM No.105844365
>>105844353
I'm not the only one who noticed
Luke Smith made a video about it
Maybe you're to dumb to notice
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:28:43 AM No.105844371
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the_nooticer
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>>105844365
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:39:30 AM No.105844439
>>105844112
You've been here that long and still think pastebin is "shady". Lurk forever.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:43:47 AM No.105844463
>>105843865 (OP)
LLMs certainly can reason. They can reason better than most people I have met. However, because they are natural language models, they do best with natural language reasoning. They are not as good at code, and they suck at math. Eventually we will need to move away from LLMs. One alternative is multi-modal models, that can incorporate all types of data like mathematics, visual input, physics simulations etc.

But saying that LLMs have no capacity to reason just because they are not great at generating code is not really valid.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:45:55 AM No.105844476
>>105844439
I don't think Pastebin is shady, retard.
I am paranoid of links that could have used Unicode characters which look very similar but are for an entirely different domain.
https://hackaday.com/2017/04/19/you-think-you-cant-be-phished/
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:50:32 AM No.105844508
>>105844476
well then every link is shady and you should just never leave 4chan, huh
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:54:26 AM No.105844535
>>105844508
exactly
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:12:38 AM No.105845437
>>105844476
Type the pastebin domain by hand then since you know the site, retard.