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>>105862718 (OP)
I'm being offered an internal transfer. they offer the same pay (I asked for a raise, they said no) + 1 yearly bonus, equivalent to 2 monthly salaries (so a total yearly pay 1/6 higher than my curren salary), based on team performance (ie, it might or might not be paid...)
my current position is relatively comfy except for the political crap my boss has to endure (and therefore the team as a whole). I've been told that the positon I was offered is not this comfy and politics might be the same or worse.
am I being too greedy if I reject the offer and tell them to raise the pay offer?

>>105862739
reasking here
this shit really pisses me off, i dont want to have to use a shitty vm to test changes

>>105862737
Same pay, uncertain bonus, and a less comfy role with equal or worse politics? Hard pass unless they sweeten the deal.

>>105862737
Seems to me like you know what you want.

>>105862737
Don't take the job unless it gives you leverage for the future. You definitely won't be paid a cent more.

God these fucking resumes are awful. If you're going to lie to me, at least make it seem credible.

yes, the bad ones are all jeets.

>>105862846
>>105862850
>>105862860
I should have added something: I want to get the fuck out of this team because my coworkers are zoomer retards, otherwise I would not give a crap about the offer. but, you see, it's not really convenient for me to take that offer...

>>105862869
Trust me good sir I have a pee age dee from Habat!

>>105862919
You don't have to give a fuck about your coworkers. Is suffering more work really worth it when you don't even know what your next team will look like?

>>105862933
>You don't have to give a fuck about your coworkers
it sucks though. there is no intellectual motivation with these retards, no challenge, nothing. I don't want to be the one to motivate them or spoonfeed them.

>Is suffering more work really worth it when you don't even know what your next team will look like?
yeah, I don't think so, but it depends. my job is fun. the clients? not so much... had they taken my original salary request, I'd have accepted and moved, though.

>>105862972
>there is no intellectual motivation with these retards, no challenge, nothing. I don't want to be the one to motivate them or spoonfeed them.
Did you get hired to motivate them? Or is it part of your job description?
> not so much... had they taken my original salary request, I'd have accepted and moved, though.
Don't take it then unless you can use it as a stepping stone for an even better position.

>>105862737
>do a harder, worse job for no (guaranteed) additional pay!
I certainly hope you're asking this rhetorically and aren't stupid enough to not see the massive red flag in your face.

>>105862972
Just do your job, retard. It's not your responsibility to play "hypebeast" in zoomer parlance for your zoomer coworkers.

How are you planning to kill yourself when asi takes your job in 1 week

I did have a grilled salmon wrap today at the Microsoft cafeteria and it was pretty good, though the old bay fries I got with it were very over-seasoned...

>>105863079
I will ask ASI how to do it

>>105863082
>the microsoft spammer enters the thread again

>>105863079
I will ask ASI to create cunnybots for me and everyone on 4chan who was only ever nice and helpful to me.

>>105862920
They dont' lie about degrees, but like most things zoomers, they lie poorly.

>Sars I am expert working with Nexus routers!
>Experience: internship 6 months

You're not a fucking expert.

Also if they say "chat am I cooked" ever, into the trash that candidate goes :)

Do you ever feel guilty doing nothing all day when wfh?

>>105862662
i mean, so does everyone who comes to my house, i leave them in plain sight and near a window. it keeps robbers out because they don't wanna rob a freak

>>105863204
No.

>>105863150
i'm sorry...

>>105863187
Zoomers say I'm cooked? Well I find it quite cold.

I was running out of storage space on my local hard drive and PC rebooted for updates.
I got black screen with a mouse. Task manager works but that is it.

>annoying micro managing dude from another org forwards a meeting to me at 3:35PM which started at 3:30PM
>starts spam pinging and calling my on Teams even though I am booked OOF/Away on my calendar and my status clearly shows me out of office
>has the nerve to send a snarky message in the group chat @anon in the future please join these meetings
cunt, in the future, please invite me more than NEGATIVE 5 minutes in advance

TC just dropped from 270k to 0k
I'm laid off, boys!

net worth is $1.3M @ 32, so I'll be taking a career break

>>105863668
holy shit, are you me? almost same exact TC and NW (a bit less for me) and also 32 yo. 99% chance I am getting laid off in the next few weeks based on rumors I've heard from my manager and hints he's given me to start looking for other jobs.

Debating what to do next, in the weird spot of feeling like I've got enough saved to take a break for a while but not enough to take a break from work forever. what do you think you'll do?

>>105863574
At my last job some manager who didn't like my manager kept adding me to 6 AM (my timezone) meetings 30 minutes before and then complained in an org-wide channel that I wasn't joining his meetings. Fucking hated that douche.

>>105863316

>>105863668
>>105863702
take up woodworking

>>105863082
I'm working so hard to join you bro, how is living on the east side

>>105863774
it's fine, the communities are nice, some of them are surprisingly walkable, but it's kind of sleepy if you're into... like... nightlife and stuff. lots of nice parks and stuff, i go swimming in lake sammamish sometimes

How's Austin, TX in 2025?
I only want answers from transplants. @Texans, do not reply.

Fuck I'm getting laid off in two weeks and now my transmission is dying.

>>105863702
>>105863668
I went on a month vacation. Then proceded to be a neet fro a while.
good stuff.

i'm still in awe about how much you can get away with if you're above the median in the company
some days i just don't work at all and don't come to standup but people assume i have more important things to do, then i spend a few hours coding and deliver more than the people that i assume are either tryharding or just give zero fucks
you get amazing performance reviews and feel bad because you're not even trying

The universe is shaped exactly like the earth
If you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

>>105863668
forget all these lames and they recommendations

anon, plane ticket. thailand. red light district. ladyboys. methamphetamine. now. your destiny calls.

>>105864128
i think the verdict is still out there on the curvature of the universe, but i wouldn't be surprised if you're right and it's positive so we're basically in a bubble

Took every Friday in July off as holiday. Feels good to be an eurofag.
Still have 20 days left until the end of the year, I genuinely don't know what to do with all this time off.

>>105863668
Similar stats. I'm hoping that by 40, NW will be 3-4M with house/cars paid off.

>>105864132
This

I really feel like studying as a basic ass CS major is a waste of time since 99% of code is already being written by AI or coders using AI. Really what's the point?

>>105864347
There is none. You missed the boat. Switch to nursing.

>>105864373
I'm already a millionaire though?

>>105864373
NTA but nursing kinda seems like a shitty job

>I'm already a millionaire though?

>>105862919
ok unc

>>105864405
>studying as a basic ass CS major is a waste of time
>I'm already a millionaire
Assuming you're the same guy, unless you're making a vague gesture at the state of higher education, I have no idea what kind of response you expected.
>>105864409
Yet in 20 years, most nurses working today will still be able to find a job. Most people ITT will either be pushed into early retirement or have swapped careers.

>>105864409
I have a friend who burned out on nursing and is now doing a masters in clinical therapy or some shit

it is a good job in that youll always get hired and the pay is decent though

>>105864405
In Zimbabwe Dollars, I'm sure.

Tfw too smart to code

I think that FIRE is dumb ('yeah bro rent some shitty apartment around niggers, don't have a girlfriend, and just save money and live a terrible life for 20 years lmao') but what's a realistic percentage of your income to save (after taxes, rent, etc.)?

Sorry I honestly get nothing out of this as a career. I wanted to fix problems and finish solutions, not get paid to ignore fundamental problems while maintaining, bug-fixing and adding features to a service, forever. As it really just grows slower and bigger.
I wonder how a windows 11 developer can even look in the mirror. Extending the tower of babel shit, totally disconnected.

>>105864767
No one does that tho it's moreso just stop buying useless goyslop depreciating assets and not be a debtslave

I currently work for a big national corporation. I have 10+ years of experience but 0 (zero) degrees or certs. I've been contacted by multiple recruiters as of late (really, the last month) and was being offered multiple times in the past, yet no one seems to want to hire me. I guess I'm a risk to them because my experience doesn't say much about me.
I'm too lazy to get a degree or certs, though. idgaf. I also need to start worrying about other stuff... like, my real life, not just this stressful job.

>>105863668
congrats anon on your unlimited, unpaid vacations.
my suggestion: ask someone you know to suggest a nice, cheap place to go for vacation, and just go there. do not even think of it, just buy the tickets or the package tour and go.
I liked Cusco (Perú) when I went there some time ago. you can find LOTS of info about it in search engines and youtube. it's a nice, safe, really cool place (to a degree, like everything in south america). I'm south american though, so YMMV.

>>105864792
sad thing is I know this goes for most things too. I've even talked to physicians and psychiatrists expressing the same thing.
Wtf is this delusion world honestly.

>>105864792
Most of them are semiconscious jeets who are just happy to be in America.

>>105864347
its crazy people still enroll in cs programs and be like "Hrmmm guys this market is a little concerning". when you decided to take out tens of thousands of dollars of undischargable loans did you think about researching the job market a little bit? or did your parents force you to go and you picked it without thinking about it?
if you are by chance not some rich kid wasting his the college fund his parents gave him, lemme give you soem advice: you should change majors yesterday. the job market do be wholeass not slappin, but lowkey not becuz of ai doe

>>105864409
its probably not easy work. its the only sure-fire way to make a decent living where i live though. nursing is my backup plan at least. i wish i were as optimistic as some of the people in these threads.

>>105864912
NTA but it drives me CRAZY hearing from people who are sophomores at no-name schools how they are getting CS degrees and how they expect to be making 100k starting.
I want to slap them, point out that they are a dumbass (if they were smart they'd be at a decent school), and that the CS new grad market is overflowing,

>>105864810
Everyone gets disillusioned in every career there is a ideal that attracts you to the career then you find out how things really work

Team is jeet hell. Specifically, tech lead is big jeet and UI lead is lil jeet. Everything is as you'd expect (ad-hoc meetings you must join, requirements change constantly, incomprehensible instructions, micro-managing), and because of that we're all in a bad mood. Big jeet schedules a meeting called "check in" with no details, includes about 10 of us, specifically UI devs. We join and he says this is an "open forum" to discuss concerns, because he has heard morale is low. A few people speak up, saying that the PR comments are hard to understand, that instructions are given too late, once you've already implemented something in a way apparently contrary to what lil jeet wants. Big jeet listens, but then gives a story which it seems he'd planned in advance to tell: he says the Proof of Concept for this project failed a few years ago due to everyone "doing their own thing." The reason why lil jeet does things in the stupid way he does is because we need to "make sure that doesn't happen again." Whenever someone tries to disagree with big jeet, to say that his history lesson regarding the failed PoC doesn't mean that lil jeet's idiocy is justified, he interrupts and insists he is an "open person" but we can't let that happen again. He defers to how he has known lil jeet for a long time, and how lil jeet has a good track record. Basically, he scheduled this meeting to let us air grievances, and then for him to tell us "no, nothing will change. Just do what lil jeet says."

If India were nuked, what would be lost? Serious question

>>105864912
>>105864931
Newsflash, 18 year olds who have done nothing but gone to school are dipshits. Blame all the family and teachers that think just tell them >go to college and just figure it out lol
I wish someone told me to consider other options you have no wisdom at the age to know about oversaturated markets it's something you end up finding the hard way

>>105864792
that's what happens when people (be them managers, MBAs, coworkers or even founders and owners) do stuff for money instead of passion and to solve problems.

>>105865013
People who study at a university just to make money later on (either their fault or not) are retarded, and this way of doing things has destroyed the idea of learning after high school.

>>105865091
this is the twg, not utwg. please keep your posts confined to the latter, thanks!

>>105865091
I'd call it the opposite of retarded when your only other option is being a wagecuck making $15 an hour

>>105865232
No. The alternative is building side projects (and preferably startups) while you're in school, not just dicking around.

>>105865267
>just make a startup while handling a full stem courseload
>well no i havent done it but i saw a cool hustler's university video about it...
>anyway, as i was saying everyone but me is retarded

>>105865267
Networking is more important than being another faggot with some garbage crud app

>>105865267
I don't think anybody cares about side projects. I had a couple from classes, and really all anybody cared about was internships and how well I could leetcode. Ironic because when you talk about LC and internships on here, people chimp out and call you Indian.
>startups
>in college
Did you just watch The Social Network for the first time or something? Nobody does this.

>>105864579
>Yet in 20 years, most nurses working today will still be able to find a job. Most people ITT will either be pushed into early retirement or have swapped careers.
>In 20 years, you'll still continue being able to change old boomers wet diapers for $40 an hour in 2025 dollars how wonderful

>>105865267
>literally just work for free bro

>>105863082
i like your food reports anon
please keep posting them

>>105865500
i heard its 15 dollars an hour and as an initiation they make you climb inside the colon of one of those people from my 600 lb life. thankfully when i finish my cs degree in 4 years im going to be living the high life with you my man! (unemployed and talking shit online)

>>105865546
what color is your bugatti?

>>105865560
>what color is your bugatti?
I have a 'rari in Matte Black, to go with my Glock (which I keep safely contained in the 'rari)

i asked chatgpt what the caste of my indian coworker is based on the name and apparently he's a Bihari-origin upper-caste

I hate how political this faggot career is I'm too autistic to navigate saying the right things I just state facts then it turns out I wasn't supposed to say that in front of certain people but no one told me I'm to autismo to infer

DAE fucking hate their mood managers? Why the fuck do they expect us to be talkative and happy 24/7? We aren't always going to be laughing or chatting it up, we are here to mostly work you dumb fucks.

>>105864912
> its crazy people still enroll in cs programs and be like "Hrmmm guys this market is a little concerning".

Some people like the field. Zoomers are doing so much with digital devices that a lot of them want to make a career out of it.

>>105864409
>>105864912
If you want medical and want a similarly autistic job you could study to become a pharmacist. You'll still have work 2 decades from now on and the profession is gatekept by qualifications and degrees.

Another pursuits that's just as autistic as CS would be accountancy. It'll still take a long time to fully automate that profession away since a lot of the profession has become about guiding clients rather than just crunching numbers (modern software does a good job at it).

>Can't contain notes anymore
>not taking notes would improve memory
>but still by the next day you remember only a fraction, even if you try to regresh things 1st thing in the morning
>that clever pipeline that was inspired by a blog entry from '93 as a part of chatgpt's hallucination may be forgotten
>And then there are nginx configs I write maybe once a quater and littéraly there's no reason to remember them

>>105866226
Shut the fuck up zogbot furnigger

>>105866226
...and basically everything Linux besides the basics, is legacy memory holed knowledge contained on personal sites that aren't in Google or highly specific ue post with 1 answer from a decade ago.

>>105866289
We're 2 different posters.

How do I get promoted as a trainee within a Cloud team to a junior cloud engineer? What skills, certs or other training can I do?

>>105866361
Idk, but in cloud roles it's easy to get stuck as eternal hell-cloud-desker. At least the pay will be okay.

>>105864347
Firstly, college ain't a jobs program. A good program will teach you how to think, how to approach learning. And specifically gear you to be an academic computer scientist.

If you just want some codecel job, that hasn't truly taken a specific degree in like 10-15 years.

>>105866451
wth is a 'cloud-desker'? Also as a trainee I am supposed to receive training, maybe I'll put together a learning plan or something to force them to teach me certain things.

>>105863493
Disk cleanup to get rid of temporary files.

>>105866515
But disclaimer: I went to a literal top 10 school in a main character country (usa). If you're at Alabama state school or something...just kek.

You'll want signs that you're top couple percent of class and then be willing to move literally anywhere for a job.

I wouldn't waste my undergrad exp on CS unless i wanted to go do a phd. Undergrad CS doesn't unlock any tech tree to you. Can't go to med school without more classes, runs risk of lowering law school gpa, doesn't get you credits to sit for a CPA or nursing license.

Gets you nothing but better at thinking which you could get for free. My program was brutal and self recreating it would be insane self discipline. You only get one undergrad tho

>>105866226
no one will ever remember all the details forever, so take notes but remember the concepts and general ideas
use joplin or cherrytree to take notes

>>105866548
>You only get one undergrad tho
I'm about to get a second one dumbass

goodnight /twg/

>>105864128
Based modest mouse

learn a trade

>coworker uses daily to explain what he did yesterday, which was very little, but he does it in such extreme detail, step by step, that it takes like 3 minutes
fuck you

>>105867359
I had a coworker that kept rambling and repeating himself during the daily for whatever he did. He was a pretty good dude overall but I fucking hated having him on the meetings.

>mfw I didn't go to college, get hired by Nvidia, vest my stock options or whatever, and retire in my early 30s

starting today i am officially starting my micro retirement
see you fags in 5 weeks

>>105867629
the shareholders wont be happy but im happy for you anon

>>105862836
why don't you have a dedicated testing environment you can point your locally running service to? If you can run all your services locally why do you even use k8s?
I test in prod btw and docker desktop is literally gay wrapper around the cli

>>105863204
I feel guilty when they manage to suck me in to do actual work. Fuck these guys.

>>105863574
whistleblow him for microaggression. If you don't show power you will be cucked soon enough. You must raise the issue now, no one will look into it weeks later.

>>105864759
unironically. I understand this is teamwork, but holy hell, doing things the retarded way makes my piss boil and feeling instatired at the same time. Everyone is doing resume driven service oriented event driven reactive cloudshit meanwhile they have a couple of million customers tops. Nigga, my washing machine could handle that.
>nooo, you can't replace 100kloc of ai slop with 20 lines of sql saar
makes coasting feel like a chore

>>105866226
do people even read their notes? See the cucks jotting down unimportant trivia that will change in 48 hours at most. Don't even remember what I lied during the daily humiliation yesterday bro. No one cares. You will change jobs, probably never see these guys again or remember any of the shit you consider important atm

>>105867359
it is an inverse signal, everyone knows this

you autists literally have nothing better to do
come to irc.rizon.net
##/vt/

Get a clearance, never worry about employment again.

>>105868150
LOL your funny GS employees are getting fucked regardless of how "Important" they are. Do that and hunt down a contracting job then your fine.

>ask ai how to obfuscate a terminal command
>it says it can't help me with that request
>try a different ai
>answers the same
just fuck off already, you useless shit ai

>>105868552
rare AI dub on this one, security through obscurity is dumb and bad and hiding your "malware" by embedding it in an excel macro or something is old shit no one falls for anymore

>>105864347
CS was and likely still is the best undergrad degree. It's just college doesn't get you anywhere anymore unless maybe you want to get a masters.

IT'S FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>105869137
>wake up
>open laptop
>got good news on a build I've been fighting to get pushed through for a month
bretty good friday so far

>>105869137
Bro what the fuck? No it's not. It's monday today.

@grok explain this

>>105869288

We're soulless mercenaries and we know it. We aren't doing anything useful.

>>105869288
I work in IT so being a cable monkey with admin rights to fuck shit up is pretty fun. We break as much as we fix in my industry. Programmers aint got much else aside from grinding away at a desk knowing what they make is either garbage or harmful to others.

>Have interview last Friday
>Went well, vibed with the two guys
>Was told they'd let me know 'either' way early next week
>It is now Friday afternoon
:-|

>>105869359
3 weeks or bust honestly.

>>105869232
Have you heard of time zones baka

>TC 150k in HCOL economic zone
>25 vacation days
>pretty stable and relaxed, no talk of layoffs or psychopath CEO in the news
But only 1% raises this year and last and my compensation has actually gone down since I've cashed in on RSUs and wasn't given more.
Should I just be grateful to have a job for now or try to grind for more? My job isn't boring I'm just getting annoyed they expect me to do more and take initiative for literally less pay (due to RSUs) and much less due to inflation.

>>105869448
Market is a bit fucked wait 18 months and reconsider moving to a better job. Alternatively you can see if you can move up for more pay. That pay is not horrible but it could be alot more.

Also do not quit your job, get one lined up before moving out.

>>105869288
suffering out of passion vs comfy but having no purpose

ive had both kinds of jobs and i vastly prefer the latter. that said when i had a passion based job, i was usually too busy to complain vs now when i have all the time to complain

>>105869485
Meanwhile in Europoor land we are both too busy complain and too underpaid to save up to take a break and do something fulfilling

>>105869501
If budgeted correctly an amerilard can save up 1/2 to 2 times there income monthly with the amount of disposable income we have. Meaning if your not retarded you should be able to pay off your debts and every month save away cash for potential job loss. I can save 3 times that amount which means in 3 months I can take off 9 months of work if i really wanted too.

How bad is it in europe? Does the word saving only account for what can be cut at the grocery store?

>>105869477
Thanks anon. I think that's the right call. I've just been here so long I'm feeling antsy and having a hard time keeping a good attitude.

>move up
Not really a thing here. I could maaaybe become a PM.

>pay is not horrible but it could be alot more
I know and they were hiring recently for the same seniority and the lower bound on the job listing was higher than what I make.
Problem is myself/my industry is pretty specialized, our competitor companies are worse and I didn't get too many bites in diagonal industries.

>>105869545
Consider PM it atleast gives you some management experience and gets you a taste of management without all of the responsibilities. Sucks that happened to you but its very common. It happened to me and i only got lucky when my contract shit the bed, then the other company bought us out with higher paychecks. New guys to my company are getting shafted by comparison but are atleast on the higher bound of what he previous company gave us.

If its been longer than 3 years then try reaching out again. Be sure to update your resume now if you know majority of the jobs duties. Someone might bite even on the smallest skill set in your resume.

>>105869527
>How bad is it in europe?
Let me put it this way, Train Drivers make more than Software Developers

>>105869288

>>105869448
id say you are doing quite well. i wouldn't switch jobs in this economy unless you can literally do some r/overworking type shit and even then it's a dubious idea. if you have stability and free time right now, i'd look towards using that time to try to optimize your spending, maybe move to a cheaper location, learn new skills, etc.

>>105869501
i'm euro and underpaid, but definitely not too busy. my current job is incredibly lax when it comes to meetings and attendance. i do plan to switch jobs for better pay eventually but for now i'm pretty happy being able to beef up my CV during an economic downturn and enjoy my lax duties

>>105869527
it varies by country but europe is slightly poorer overall, but less wacky when it comes to costs. i'd say it's closer to something like 20th century US when it comes to how stuff is priced. basically luxuries, cars, food, hobbies, etc. can cost a considerable chunk of income (compared to basically nothing americans pay for them) but renting, insurance, healthcare and student loans are generally cheaper. to answer your question, the ability to save here in general is probably a bit easier, but the amount you *can* save is drastically lower because base pay is just so low. but there is also less need to save because the state won't let you perish to diabetes or go homeless. but personally i feel need to save anyway because i suspect the welfare state will collapse in about 10-20 years and we will become ruled by the elderly asset owners, just like the US

>>105869624
RIP :C

>>105869676
>i'd say it's closer to something like 20th century
actually nevermind, its dumb to compare modern day europe to 60-80s america because the amount of money going through the US at that time was just retarded. but i was trying to explain that luxuries cost more in europe because we can't just print money to buy shit from china

>>105869676
>r/overworking
also i meant overemployed, as in taking another job on top of your current one and seeing how it shakes out

>>105869722
Wish i could get paid even straight time for working more hours. Fuck Id be able to pay off my house in years.

>>105869686
wtf let him go

what did he do to you

>>105869624
Train "Drivers" (they're called conductors you fuckwit) are actually useful to society

>>105869738
I checked some of the pay's. Yeah its pretty gucci if you like to travel alot. Also physical of which /g/ tards are afraid of wrenching.

>get an interview
>everything goes very well
>made some in hindsight unwise remarks about my previous employer
>they take these remarks as a reason not to hire me because they think Im a trouble maker
never again. lesson learned, bros

>>105869833
Always talk about moving up in your career and progressing in your skills. Your old job is awesome and you would recommend them to join the company by giving them your bosses number.

Surely there is better advice than just this.

>>105869738
>Train "Drivers" (they're called conductors you fuckwit)
No they're fucking not you dipshit goit, conductors check/sell tickets and walk about the cabins

>>105869288
all that teachers do is bitch about how they need to make more money.
dumb bitches need to take econ 101 and learn supply and demand and consider that they are getting 4 months of vacation per year

applied for entry-level embedded/FPGA position at a small German company in Munich. they asked me for my salary expectation and I said 65k euros pre-tax. did I low-ball myself? people on Reddit are saying 65k for Munich is barely a living wage

I have a MSc, internships, about 1 YoE btw

>>105869926
Should've asked for 25k$ to compete with the local market(imported)

Be very careful ever writing a project in a dynamically typed language. Several workplaces I've been at suffered for years or decades as a result of this choice. I would actually suggest avoiding work on projects involving python or vanilla js if possible.
No one has ever written high quality python code in less time than it takes to write the equivalent in Java/Go/etc. It will either take just as long as a statically typed language with less benefits or you will half ass the type-hinting, probably the latter. Your boss will not let you refactor it. All the "annoyance" of dealing with types is necessary to not write bugs. LSPs, autocomplete, all that shit basically does it for you now anyway.

>>105862737
Eventually that shiny security related job writing C++ or Go or whatever tech you idolize will become your norm and you'll stop caring, possibly have worse WLB and worse team culture.
I would suggest not leaving without compensation, or at the very least a semi-immediate resume driven development reason where it will facilitate a pay raise via a job hop/etc.
That being said some company's let you keep the same boss and go back to your old team. Not the norm but see if that's possible.

>>105862869
I was about to refer a guy but then realized all his projects were fake. He changed a few lines. STEM major but not CS. Wonder if these are the people saying they can't get a job bcz everyone I know got one.

has anyone here gotten a job with no experience in the past 2 years?
how do I create experience from thin air?

>>105870024
Thin air? Have you just sit on your ass and jerked off for the past 2 years? If you fucked around with anything at the very least you should put it in the resume. You never know what bullshit you fucked around with is valueable.

anyone else just not doing anything on friday afternoon? 2 more hours to go.

>>105870035
I have I've put down Game Development and Computer Vision stuff on my resume

>>105869288
I've only ever worked hybrid or wfh but 5 day in office tech jobs sound fucking horrific since you're mentally spent after 4 hours but have to pretend to do shit.
I like CS and the industry I work in helps ppl unlike big tech, I can't complain. Everything I thought I disliked about my job were deeper personal issues I had. Same goes for almost every remote or hybrid worker.

Just kill me

>>105870063
How the fuck do you get any coding done when you have less than 1 hour blocks available outside of lunch. I need a 3-4 hour block to get shit done even on adhd meds.

>>105864123
My whole team is busy in a retarded audit so I get to chill out.
I'm not in the audit because I'm the only person who can do anything useful, so I typically code while the jeets do the useless paperwork, which is now getting audited.

We're not going to get a good score btw but everyone already knew that.

>>105869960
I'm making a FastAPI server right now. I prefer python to node.

>>105870024
My buddy worked at Google from 2019-2023. He quit because of 'le burnout' (guess what generation he is) and he hasn't been able to get a job since.

HR is fucking shit up even harder now fml maybe I should just kms

>>105869288
so real

Fags on my team take themselves way too seriously this is a fake and gay job chill out

>>105869686
train drivers provide more value to the world than "engineers"

>>105870081
I'm a team lead so I don't code much anymore, but I need time to write out tickets and do PRs

>>105870140
are you the guy from yesterday?
What did they do now?

I dont want a job. I dont want to spend my life in an office. I dont want to work for the jews.

>>105870159
lmao it's probably all they have and they need to feel important. So many pretentious, arrogant, onions, whiny dudes in tech.

>>105870345
Move to Alaska

Reminder that anyone in software that calls themselves an "engineer" should kill themselves

>>105870392
That's why I call myself a software whisperer

>>105870392
Nah bro see I'm a totally real engineer because I took a simple design and shartified it to be this bloated microservice architecture I'm a big boy

>>105869527
how do a I save 2 times my income?

>>105870392
In the courses I've taken at uni that are required for both CS and engineering students, the CS students always get higher average marks. Also I've known people who made it through a whole engineering degree and are not that smart, they sure like to think they are though.

>>105870523
It has nothing to do with intelligence but building actual tools and using a real engineering process. Even if CS students have a slight advantage in intellect (debatable), it's negated by the fact they are autists with close to zero emotional intelligence

>>105870578
>building actual tools and using a real engineering process
cool i'm an engineer then

>>105870594
if you aren't legally required to stamp your name on a design making you professional liable for mistakes, then you aren't an engineer buddy

>>105870523
What courses? Dick sucking?

Most CS students are afraid of Calc 1 lmao

>>105863702
>Debating what to do next, in the weird spot of feeling like I've got enough saved to take a break for a while but not enough to take a break from work forever. what do you think you'll do?
I've been working this job secretly from southeast asia, so I'm switching to a day schedule and going to enjoy some more time outdoors for a while. I could see things like multi-week motorcycle trips or 2x/day muay thai in my future.

My older teammate in his 60s shared that he took almost 2 full years of a career break in India around my age. I've got youth and a fat stack of cash, so I'm going to take it slow on jumping back into a W2 role. Try out some other ideas/stuff.

My other direct teammate that also got laid off shared with me that he's wondering if he wants to do software his whole career. Interested in something more human: teaching, counseling, etc.

>>105864205
>Similar stats. I'm hoping that by 40, NW will be 3-4M with house/cars paid off.
If we get new jobs and keep grinding, we'd do it. That's why I was like tech lead, where this job was probably not going to end any either way other than being laid off or PIP'd. simply too good $ for the time, remotely

>>105870668
that's only required when your work endangers lives.

>>105870711
oh so you are saying you don't build anything actually useful for the world?

>>105870720
the economy says it's very useful
which is why software engineers get paid in the millions

>>105870759
In fairness the economy also says belle Delphine is very useful

>>105870668
lol this is cope. the difference between a developer and engineer is modus operandi. if one applies the fundamentals of engineering to engineer things then one is an engineer.

An engineer is someone that shovels coal into a steam engine

I have sex with engineers

>>105870806
learn to coal

>>105870798
>if one applies the fundamentals of engineering to engineer things then one is an engineer.

So you just excluded all software jobs , glad we agree!

>>105870816
most software jobs are not performed by engineers, I agree with you there.

>>105870786
maybe she is

If all roads, bridges, bearings, etc. disappeared tomorrow the world would come to a screeching halt
If your meme crud vaporware disappeared no one would notice
You are not an engineer

>>105870338
Yes I'm the anon whose emergency contact was called for no reason. They're now claiming I said in person that I had my phone turned off recently. I've never said that and my phone is always turned on.

>>105870798
In many places engineer is a protected title so no, simply applying engineering principles does not make someone an engineer in all locales. You need the certification/license too.

YWNAE

>>105870935
You referring to a licensed PROFESSIONAL Engineer aka PE for short. I do wish a licensed PE existed for software engineering.

>public static void main
OI OI OI you got a loicense for that?

>>105871034
if you call yourself an engineer in canada and not a PE you are doing something illegal

>>105870916
you don't know how to build a bridge.

>>105871079
Therefore, I'm not an engineer

>>105871060
What do you call a ??? who graduated from an engineering school, works at an engineering firm, but is still in the process of working toward fulfilling the experience component of the requirements to complete the PE exam and receive a PE license?

>>105871079
I do. I have over 20 hours in polybridge

>started a new job
>nobody has told me to do anything yet
w-what do I do bros?

>>105863668
>$1.3M @ 32
zamn what the fuck
how long have you been working at big tech?

>>105871105
be proactive, ask for the documentation and read it.

This is not a test; it's quite normal to hire someone and not tell people shit. I know a guy who only received the first assignment over a month later because the HR forgot to mention the hiring.

>>105870916
but I build [CLASSIFIED] systems for [REDACTED]
you would definitely notice if the [DELETED] weren't [EXPUNGED] you anymore

Jeets love title inflation
They are engineers with doctorates from durgasoft university yet can't do anything

>>105870392
its cooler to think of yourself as a dollar tree tier mathematician doing informal proofs than an engineer regardless

>>105870759
is the guy working on the tiktok algo more useful than a doctor saving your life
capitalism is fucking retarded

>>105871100
engineer in training I assume is the only title you are allowed

I dont know the canadian process completely though

>>105871034
Licensed PE for software engineer would end up being some ZOG bullshit like remembering the proper name for an abstract factory latte producer instead of networking/operating systems/dsa/etc.

>>105871172
Engineers do not assume. You are not an engineer.

>>105871205
Someone that hasn't actually done any professional engineering calc detected

>>105871186
Well... here is the problem: Logic that was encapsulated in SCADA systems set down in the hardware of a device have to be reviewed and approved by an Electrical Engineer, PE to be put into production. Now most, if not all, of the logic has moved to Firmware and Software however there isn't any such thing as Software Engineer, PE and therefore we have things such as Boeing planes crashing now because the Firmware isn't regulated.

>>105871186
PE exams actually test real world applications of shit. The PE Exam for Power EE actually tests you on shit you do everyday

You are probably talkign about the FE exam.

>>105871239
this

Which would you rather have?
>Remote, ultra chill, do nothing job. You can jerk off and play video games all day if you want and nobody will care
>pay is equal to median full time earner salary ($62k)
or
>Competitive in office FAANG job
>pay is standard FAANG pay ($200k+ with potential to earn promotions)

>>105871235
You're putting too much faith in how the PE approval process works. Often times they're just around to sign off on stuff without actually looking at it. I've heard similar from my friends in engineering. We have a guy like that where I work, he can go to prison if we mess up.

>>105871315
Even if that were the case (I disagree) it is better than nothing. I'd much prefer a licensed PE be required to Audit and Approve any self-driving autonomous vehicle before it was allowed to drive on the public road. Who agrees with me?

>>105871261
the first

I willingly went back to the office 3 days a week so the days I'm home don't feel that dreadful.

>get IBM email of winners of some AI hackathon
>gold is a code explainer described as being used for vibe coders to explain the code to them
Using AI to make code you dont understand and then having AI explain it to you, lmao unlimited slopworks

>>105871330
I would support this if it were OOP, DSA, networking, operating systems, so on. I don't think that stuff would prevent a self driving car from killing someone necessarily.
Big problem you run into is that this industry accepted a lot of career swappers who realize they can't compare to CS grads and cope. I've met guys say it's pointless to know the difference between TCP and UDP. Also their bosses will bribe politicians to keep shit deregulated & so they can outsource to illiterate third worlders. Only a combatively socialist society could regulate software for this reason.

>>105869288
This is the logical conclusion of fools falling for the "Find a job you enjoy doing, and you will never have to work a day in your life." saying.
Employers use it to guilt trip employees into not negotiating for as much money or other benefits despite the rising costs of living.

>>105871423
uh... not sure why the bate and switch to socialism. I was nodding until I read that crap. Something like the patent office where every autonomous vehicle must have full, PE stamped workup, on file.


related to my other post s: see pic... so this guy's title should have been Not Controls Engineer?

>>105871450
we have all been living in a class war since the day we've been born, your employer will always try to get the most work out of you for the least compensation, but retards are too brainwashed to see it

>>105871340
Yeah but you're not exactly making much money. Especially when you consider the amount left over after expenses in a lower paying job vs a higher paying one. Your salary might "only" double, but your disposable income could go from 1k to 5k a month.

>>105871454
My point is that because rich people can bribe their way into the government publicly, unless they have a financial incentive to regulate themselves (such as to dissuade smaller competitors from entering the industry), it will never get passed.
It's like saying it would be great if youtube didn't show groomer content or political extremism to children via the algorithm. How are you going to get that passed when the Google exec pays tens of millions to "have dinner" with the US president? Pipe dream. Maybe EU will do it.

>>105871261
First, easily. Money means nothing past being able to feed and house yourself and afford cheap hobbies

>>105871261
Former is basically half of Microsoft with 200k or higher TC.

>>105871473
>rich people
and socialism fixes government corruption how?

>>105871261
First, and this is exactly what I'm going for once I pay my house, because without that expense I can pretty much live off peanuts because all my hobbies are dirt cheap and I spend at most $100-150 going out for drinks and dinner a month, and I could cut that too.

>>105869288
>does nothing
erm, BASED alert?

>>105864993
>If India were nuked, what would be lost? Serious question
Some spices.

>>105871465
so? time is more valuable than money

>product manager is now known as "the observer" by evey developer
>nobody knows what he actually does 8h a day
>constantly spouting meme words he doesn't even understand
>absolutely irrelevant
>somehow he's been working here for 2 years
>gets paid more than developers
Guy is obviously a genius but I don't know how severe is my boss brain damage

>>105871483
>Money means nothing past being able to feed and house yourself
I mean, you're not exactly buying a house on that salary without a second income (unlikely for 4chuds).

>>105871550
Nothing. He does nothing. NOTHING.

Now get back to work you dumb stinky wagie. I need to look for another movie to watch to round out the work day.

I see a bit of stress here so, here's the daily reminder.

>>105871619
wise words, gtard. very wise words

>>105871549
not him but 5k put into an incredibly safe ETF like S&P every month for 15 years would be over 2M. that buys you a lot more time than and freedome than watching anime and shitposting on 4chan ten hours a day from 25 to 40 and having no savings or marketable skills to pivot. also the low effort 60k job doesn't really exist. if you acted like that at a normal job, you'd get laid off within a few years, and then you'd be entering an incredibly competitive job market with no work ethic, references, or skills.

>>105871492
It doesn't matter if socialism would fix it. I'm saying in the current capitalism system we inhabit there is no meaningful way to get this passed unless it stifles smaller competitors (which isn't the case).
It is also le socialist to have basic environmentalist policy that prevents companies from giving children cancer by dumping chemicals. A lot of children had to die before we passed policy like that and established the EPA. Now the EPA is getting defunded. You're not gonna get an increase in software quality cuz the market only cares about speed of development. Stop getting emotionally involved in the capitalist slop you produce unless you are a commie. Your employer will self regulate :)

>>105871638
the idea is obviously that you spend your time not with anime and goon sessions but with grinding on your own project to make yourself self employed

>>105871638
>>105871549
>>105871465
>>105871340
>>105871261
I have a job like that. I work 3 hours a day, have one meeting a day. I do good work and people are happy with me. Rarely write bugs, wfh.
This is also a false dichotomy because there are a lot of chill wfh jobs that pay 100k+. You'd have to try really hard to get paid 62k as a dev. Most work past 4 hours a day for dev type roles is performative anyway.

>>105871665
>just work after work

>>105871665
Much easier said than done.

>>105871673
it's not work if you do it for yourself

>>105871665
>>105871638
You could get hit by a car, get cancer, maybe the country collapses, etc.
Myself I use the free time I have working from home to pursue things that interest me like learning foreign languages, music theory, learning instruments, etc. If someone actually enjoys watching anime and jerking off that's fine tbqh.

clearly you just need to sexually torture both of your sisters, plus a couple other younger girls, and someone up high will get you a job

Grinding your life away as a wagecuck so you could be doing the same things you want to do now but in 10 years and with more money is dumb

I wish I had an identical twin. We could switch off going to work. I work one week, he works the next. Also neither of us would be virgins.

>>105871261
>have a career that pays well and positions you to get an even better career down the road
vs
>honorary NEETing

I really don’t get you guys.

>>105871261
first the latter then the former

>Have comfy work from home job
>Sit on my ass all day doing VERY little
>I'm getting paid to goon and coom while doing barely anything
>My boss either doesn't care or hasn't realized I barely do jackshit (it's been almost a year now), still get congratulated from time to time
>Coworkers however have begun noticing and are seething. Even though I don't directly affect them, they are mad because they are proud of their jobs and think everyone should be working hard (fucking stupid office drones that they are)
>They are such big fucking bitches that they can't just say it to my face and since they added me to their secret side group where they talk shit about everyone and organize to harass other coworkers in extremely faggoty ways, they can't vent in secret about me either
>They don't kick me from the groups either, they are afraid I have screenshots of them talking shit about other coworkers and saying stupid nazi anti faggot shit (I don't care)
These fucking faggots are going to ruin everything for me.
How do I get them to calm down and keep them working for me?

>>105871691
Why would I waste time developing calluses on my fingers with a guitar or learning Mandarin when I could get hit by a car, get cancer, maybe the country collapses, etc.

>>105865267
>just do full time work for free while paying for school with unpurgable debt
>just subsist on beans and rice while living in a box with a homemade scooter until you're 70 years old and too degraded to enjoy the money you saved
>just work 12 jobs

>>105871825
The median poster here doesn't actually care about computers, his career, or even what's going to happen to him in retirement. All people here care about is dopamine mining with short distractions like vidya and explaining away all their shortcomings with boogeymen like Indians or women in HR.

>>105871910
>Implying Indians and women in HR aren't boogeymen

>>105870668
>>105870392
>faggot tradie waddles into the tech board to spew nonsense

>>105871920
Indians hire other Indians aggressively, and sometimes women react to things in ways that you're too emotionally retarded to understand, but if you take that to mean you shouldn't try in your career, then you're the reason jobs are being offshored and women and dominating men in this industry.

>>105871910
>t. seething jeet

>>105871879
Because that is fun and being a wagecuck corpo cog isn't? Bugman moment

>>105871873
take screenshots of them talking shit about other coworkers and saying stupid nazi anti faggot shit

>>105871665
>the idea is to
Have no hobbies or personal life and exist solely to slave away.

>>105871940
I'm convinced the pronoun bullshit of the last 10 years was propagated mainly by trend-brained HR white women

>>105872004

>>105872014
Millennials as a whole drank the woke koolaid.
They went from screaming nigger on Xbox live to being pronoun police

>>105871489
I work at Microsoft and it is the opposite of chill right now, and we don't even make nearly as much as META/Netflix/Google/Amazon to justify the chaos.

>>105872060
>threadly “I work at Microsoft Redmond” post

>>105872060
>Work at Microsoft
Unironically the fuck is actually going on over there?

>>105872089
The needful

>>105871958
Struggling to pick up finger picking isn't fun. Being good at guitar is. Struggling with reading hanzi or tone enunciation isn't fun. Being able to travel the world and speak the language is. By extension, investing time and effort into building a foundation for your career in your 20s isn't fun either, but having passive income in your 30s and being able to outright retire by 40 is. It's all about delayed gratification, and if you can wrap your small brain around the concept of grinding at an instrument or language for long-term gain, then spare me this boring
>Bugman moment
schizo shit because we both know you're capable of grasping the similarities here.

>>105872089
lots of shitting

>>105872089
Talking with a few other disgruntled colleagues, we chalked it up to this:

- External leadership is being brought in en-masse from places like Meta, Amazon, Retail. There are only like 2 leaders under Satya now that have been at MSFT for more than a few years (Rajesh and Perry). These external hires are bringing in the culture of those other orgs (like Retail) without understanding the differences of MSFT (massive global company that cannot operate with monthly cuts and offshoring jobs unless compensation or hiring bar is massively raised).
- Satya is probably "checked out" after his son died (we all noticed a dramatic difference in his leadership style after that, can't totally blame him there)
- Company has gotten so huge that we literally build multiples of the same feature/product without realizing it. It's gotten "too big" to manage effectively.

>>105867359
>have to explain every day what you did the previous day
I would have a fucking nervous breakdown. I couldn't do that to save my life.

>>105867359
Is he sub-senior? Every intern I've ever had does this.
>yeah so yesterday I spend most of the day debugging an error. it wasn't very actionable so i asked alex for support and he told me to upgrade the framework, which took a few hours. then i reviewed john's PR and read some documentation to help me with the original problem i mentioned earlier. i've also got to start thinking about my end-of-internship presentation, so i brainstormed a bit about that. today i'll keep brainstorming and look into a few PRs that people have tagged me in. then if i have time i'll keep cracking at that bug and read some more documentation and ...........................

Give me one sentence each for
>what did you do yesterday
>what will you do today
>are there any blockers
Anything beyond that can be handled outside of the standup. Interns get a pass but FTE should absolutely not be deviating from this formula whatsoever.

>>105872101
I had fun even when I sucked and muted every string trying to barre. You're just one of those fags who can't enjoy the process and will always move the goalposts of your own personal satisfaction. Your life is hollow and empty and it will never be enough for you. While you are making some fag who doesn't care about you richer, I will be chilling learning and being truly happy

>meeting to estimate tickets
>using that planning poker method where everyone votes blindly
>me, being the retard I am, got distracted
>"Anon, we're waiting for your vote"
>fuck
>guess a random number, not even sure what people are talking about
>everyone else unanimously voted X, I was the only one who voted Y
>everyone starts debating, somehow they agree Y is more appropriate
>I didn't even join in on the debate
SCRUM is such a scam lmao

>>105872211
whoever started that debate was just bailing your ass out

>>105871261
first because i could keep living where i am now rather than move to some crowded overpriced concrete hellhole.

>>105871873
Just don't get on their way, honestly.
I like working, I enjoy doing things. I'm not bothered about freeloaders, but I am bothered by freeloaders who keep blocking everything. Just go there, "lgtm" every review, do the bare minimum when someone asks, and that's that.

>>105872191
>can't enjoy the process
I can play guitar better than you in addition to speaking english, mandarin, and spanish fluently. The beginning parts of these hobbies are difficult, and if you haven't plateaued yet, then there's no point talking about it because you're still new, and your opinion here is worthless.
>move the goalposts of your own personal satisfaction
What does this even mean? Being honest about the fact that it takes real, hard, dedicated effort to excel at something isn't moving the goalpost. You sound like someone who's never gotten good enough at anything to realize this.
>Your life is hollow and empty and it will never be enough for you
You're right. My life would be so much better if I made 62k and spent my excess time bragging about being on the left side of the dunning-kruger curve in all of my supposed hobbies.
>who doesn't care about you richer
My TC right now is 240k, and I might work 5 hours a day. I'm at work right now.
>I will be chilling learning and being truly happy
Crazy that people with objectively worse material conditions than the person they're talking to will act smug through gritted teeth on this site. Have fun with your shit job and budding new interests, man.

Where are the .Net jobs?
Java got exported and everything is is python go rust JavaScript and the whole rest of the list of meme languages. I have only ever worked in .Net, which is supposed to be an industry standard, but there are barely any jobs

>>105872242
>"lgtm" every review
this is the easiest way to get away with coasting. even if you approve a few things that end up causing problems, everyone will remember that one time you unblocked their work and made them look good. just remember to leave a moderately constructive comment every once in a while, like "should we open a follow-up to add alarms for this?"

Start making your own SAAS businesses. Apps, webapps, whatever

Don't try to make one big app, though. Make a bunch of small easy ones. That's the way.

>>105872277
Yup. Every time I've gotten in trouble for costing it's because I stopped doing code reviews. Corporations are all about absorbing and unblocking administrative problems so the more you do that the more they like. Technical ability is just a tool you can use to make your ability to do that easier.

>>105865396
Straight up what is leetcode about, I just thought it was a code practice website but some people are talking about it more as some kind of recruitment tool. Do they have certs or something? Are you meant to put it on a resume? Never followed any of the leetcode stuff, just finished my engineering degree and did internships to get my job.

>>105871888
>>just do full time work for free while paying for school with unpurgable debt
Unironically yes. If you can't handle that find another career.

>>105872310
If you want a good job in a tech hub, you're going to need to be able to solve LC mediums and do system design problems.
>certs
Nobody cares about these unless you're working help desk.
>degree
>internships
This is how you get the interview. LC and system design are how you pass.

>>105870392
Engineer is an insulting word.
An engineer is an office admin that has to occasionally review something technical. You don't want to be an engineer, it's simultaneously incredibly boring (you rarely do any real programming) while also having ridiculous responsibility you're not paid enough to absorb.

Truly intelligent people find ways to get other people to be engineers while they enjoy actually making things.

>>105872310
It's just coding challenges. Mostly DSA and DP.

Many, probably even most companies use leetcode problems to test candidates in technical interviews.

>>105870916
>Autochad stops working
>Collecting screeching of engineers pieces the heavens

>>105871261
To make it more intresting.
>Remote, ultra chill, do nothing job. You can jerk off and play video games all day if you want and nobody will care
>pay is equal to median full time earner salary ($100k)
>The actual work you do is mind numbing to the point you don't enjoy some of your hobbies anymore
or
>Competitive in office FAANG job
>pay is standard FAANG pay ($200k+ with potential to earn promotions)
>Work is interesting/fun but higher pressure to perform and sometimes have to stay to finish work.

>>105872246
Your head is so far up your own ass funny how you relied on bugman talking points to convince yourself some people are just natural born slaves I guess

>>105869288
https://strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/ consider yourself part of the lucky 10k

what bullshit is this? ai training? should I just apply and hope its a job where I do fuck all while making $$$ for 6 months?

>>105872224
I fucking hate this. Socializing is so subtle and complicated.

I just wanted to get paid to program.

>>105872331
So then it is just skill development, some gave the impression that it was more than that. Might sign up anyway because it's not like this fullstack job is challenging me anymore I can feel myself degrading.

>>105872124
People from Amazon will actually destroy organizations with their back-stabby, psycho, scarcity mindset thing. I watched it happen at the last place I worked. Most corporate environments are extremely high trust and those people burn them to the ground margin hunting.

I’m going to start looking for a job soon

I am currently a GS slug at around 110k + bennies

I want to work in industry preferably in ML engineering. I have many personal projects taking open sourced models and creating products out of them. Hour+ long audiobooks on finetuned models, couple different auto posting TikTok accounts with synthetic content put together from locally hosted models.

Is there any market still for skills like that? Or am I wasting my time applying rn?

>>105872427
full sorry come again next time saar

>>105872414
Yup, had a female director of engineering brought in from Amazon who had 0 technical background and somehow rose the ranks through backstabbing, manipulation, and claiming success from other people's work. She torpedoed our entire org in 8 months, fired off a bunch of the principal architects, and then got fired herself once leadership (finally) realized what was going on. Was incredible to witness in real time. Now she's just happily off at another FAANG, probably checking off a bunch of their diversity checkboxes while fucking everything up there too.

>>105872391
LMAO they're making us take one of these courses.

Yeah essentially you're teaching boomers to copy and paste things into chatgpt.

>>105865338
Nah I literally did that in college. It was never profitable but you learn from the experience and employers (especially when looking at internship candidates) will want to see you've done that.

>>105871261
You can live in your car/tent/boat/parent's house with the remote job so your pay is effectively double (once you factor in taxes.)

Always remote. It trumps everything.

>>105872375
>bugman talking points
You read "high-paying jobs are good because they can gives you money which buys time" and started babbling about how it's all futile because you're gonna get struck by lightning. You seem genuinely mentally ill.
>Your head is so far up your own ass
You called me a bug man for telling you there's no point in cultivating hobbies if you're afraid you're gonna get struck by lighting tomorrow. If we accept by fiat that you will die in a random pre-mature death, what does it matter that you learned how to fingerpick smoke on the water?
>some people are just natural born slaves I guess
Intermediate guitar skills aren't going to prevent you from needing to work until you die because you make 62k and save nothing.

>>105872540
>Always remote
Implying anyone is doing onsite by choice

>>105872511
Was she also a nigress?

>>105872101
Why are you guys acting like finger picking is some difficult skill?

>>105872571
NTA but literally everyone I've met from Amazon (current or former) was white. idk what's up with that.

>>105865675
>"rari" and glock

nigger.

>>105863574
PLEASE reply in the all-chat with a clean version of what you said here ... he is asking for it.

>>105863574
He probably didn't mean it the way you think.

>>105872573
I think dynamic programming problems are easy, but that's because I know how to solve them. I wouldn't tell someone who's never heard of DP that it's easy just because I already know how to do it. Someone just picking up a guitar will need at least a few months of regular practice to properly learn basic fingerpicking techniques. The fact that I can already do it because I started playing guitar 15 years ago isn't a relevant factor here.

>>105872615
>Someone just picking up a guitar will need at least a few months of regular practice
Memorize the tuning, know how to count up the scales so you can construct the chords in your head a-priori, pluck chords and scales while you zone out in meetings. That's all you have to do. It's one of the easiest things in the world.

>>105863574
Reply politely to his snarky comment. You know, "too late, I'm the patient monkey and you're the screaming cheetah" type.
Just say: "Hey, I was OOF, which was marked in my calendar. If the meeting is important, do let me know in advance so I can plan or let you know accordingly. Since your invite only reached me 5 minutes after the meeting started, I wasn't able to join." or however you write.

WORK IS ALMOST OVER!
I CAN SEE THE LIGHT!

>>105872657
I'm about to have standup and have done nothing for two months.

>>105872642
>fingerpicking is easy
>all you've gotta do is, for each tuning, learn the entire scale and practice arbitrary chord construction
>this will take less than 3 months if you check out of your job entirely and focus on just this when you're at work
I hope your severance package is fair.

you KNOW this nigga has never played flamenco >>105872642

>>105872694
Why would you start with non-standard tunings? Who are you Robert Bullock?

>>105872754
Either way you shouldn't be *memorizing* scale, just memorize the mode intervals and count up when you need them. Eventually you'll naturally memorize it along with everything else.

>>105872750
I play plenty of flamenco!

>>105869288
I love coding, thus I love my job.
Sure, I have to use gay languages such as Python or Javascript instead of having a memelang stack but hey, I'm still being paid to do something I thoroughly enjoy.

guise guhtar is so ez just autistically memorize every tuning state and exhaustively practice every one in your head its so ez fr why are you pretending its hard

>>105872784
prove it

>>105872815
Hold on I'm about to get fired, I'll do it after.

>>105872833
let us know how it goes

Things that don’t matter according to this general:
Education
Internships
Projects
Certifications

So yeah, do nothing outside of your job. If you apply and you don’t get the job, blame jeets.

>>105872882
Certs definitely do not count for shit if you're a codemonkey.
Different story for IT fags though.

>>105872899
>Different story for IT fags though
IT fag here, what do you mean and which ones do you recommend?

>>105872882
I get where your snarkiness is coming from, and there's some merit to it.
But honestly, having a recommendation from someone on the inside is better than any type of degree, certificate, or portfolio.

>>105871261
i am living the former now but at a salary just below FAANG but it is not fun, jerking off and playing video games all day gets incredibly boring after doing it for this long and you start going insane without something to challenge you, and thats not easy to do when youre playing video games and jerking off all day

>>105872397
>make account
>look at the first "hard" problem
>calc the median of two sorted arrays
that's it? ok, there's gotta be harder stuff here than intro to data structures and algorithms

This thread should be about employed anons helping unemployed anons get jobs, thereby supplying the much-needed connections autistic anons can't get normally.
But you don't do it and never will, because you're all faggots and trannies.

>>105873058
did you complete it in the correct time complexity?

Co-worker was talking about full home automation and how cool it is he can turn on his lights from an app.
I jokingly said it wouldn't hurt for him to move the 3ft to flip the switch.
This triggered a nuclear tirade on how smart homes are the future and all the other cool things he automated like setting the HVAC temperature.
I should have left well enough alone. I asked what benefit is there to automate such trivial things?
He stormed off.
The other people around think I'm an asshole and / or don't understand technology.

>>105872970
You say that as if games and fapping is all you can do.
You'll still have a median salary doing nothing, and all the free time in the world. There's countless things you can do, all sorts of hobbies and arts and crafts and entertainments.

>>105871575
I could buy a lot and build my own house with that money, though.

>>105873078
He's right though. If you have good interior design you should have several light sources in a room. You don't want to have to turn on/off each individual lamp one by one every single time. In practice you just won't end up doing it.

>>105873066
>This thread should be about employed anons helping unemployed anons get jobs
My advice to anyone unemployed in the US is to emigrate. There is *nothing* for you here. You're unwanted surplus and unwelcome in society even for labor and war.

>>105873078
UPNP is cool but anything that needs a non-free app wouldn't even be allowed to sit in my house unused.

>>105873100
A clapper could accomplish the same thing.

>>105873058
Cool, then go get your 400k job at big tech. Let us know how it goes.

>>105873083
that requires willpower and purpose beforehand, when you work remotely with such low effort for so long you realize nothing really tops jerking off smoking weed and playing video games when it comes to dopamine and before you know it you are a husk of your former self
once you are in this state it is near impossible to climb out of, nothing excites you, any side project you pick up you will drop in a week

>>105873078
Your co-worker is a dumb motherfucker who is introducing the burden of software into a fucking light switch. I'll find this niggas house on Shodan and turn his lights off while he's trying to wipe his ass.

>>105870392
I dropped out of 3 colleges without a degree and my current job's title is "Software Engineer". Seethe all you want about naming while I make twice what you make.

>>105873075
Of course, though only the top 60% in memory use so there's that to solve still. Is it graded on a per language basis?

>>105865267
>No. The alternative is building side projects (and preferably startups) while you're in school, not just dicking around.
People are roasting you for this but its the truth. The ONLY way for a junior dev to get any work experience to allow them to actually get hired is by working at a startup (not start your own start up) and if you can do that while you are still in school then you are saving yourself time. absolutely no one is going to hire someone with no work experience in this industry.

I had to work as an unpaid intern for a year and half after I got an associates CS degree and to be honest I could have just skipped the degree and went straight to the startup.

>>105872101
what a depressing way to view life man, I like playing 4 chord songs and getting better at stuff and making nice sounds

>>105862718 (OP)
>be me
>Tier 1 IT Tech Support Monkey
>Some retard needs help with resetting their password every fucking day
>IT Director wants to get rid of half the staff with AI on the downlow
>Doesn't realize that old fucks and minorities are too retarded to even be helped by AI
>My direct supervisor is a lazy fuck and so are the rest of my co-workers
>Turn over rates are stupidly high so all we have are incompetent rookies helping and butchering every customer interaction
>Supervisor gets mad at me for "overstepping" trying to help train his employees even though he is like an absent father
>I am so low on the organizational hierarchy, I am not even allowed to talk to tier 2 Tech support and have to refer to my always absent boss in order to get the message through
>Tier 2 IT is always looking for ways to remove privileges if they can help it
>IT leadership is always looking for ways to reduce hours
>Whenever IT leadership makes an absolute retard asshole move I have to save face for them and take the verbal berating's for them
>With the way they treat my position they might as well add a racial slur to my job title.
>Too retarded and ineloquent to climb up the IT ladder
>Every day I pretend to like my co-workers even though deep down I think they are retards
>FML dude

>>105873219
You don't even need songs, just know enough harmony to improvise and modulate so you can mindlessly noodle.

>>105873058
Nobody's asking LC question #4 in real interviews nowadays. Nobody's asking 2sum either. Here's a real hard that Google is actually asking right now in their interview loops: https://leetcode.com/problems/russian-doll-envelopes

In order to solve this, you need to understand
>binary search
>sorting
>dynamic programming
and be able in intuit that this problem requires those concepts to solve and implement and test all in under 45 minutes. Good luck.

>>105872694
not that anon but I took one community college music theory class and I could write chord progressions and improvise 12 bar blues on bass within a month of picking up the instrument
>for each tuning
>memorize the scale
You only need to memorize 1 (ONE) three string scale shape to begin. It's 4 frets and you go up and down strings. You just change which finger you press for minor or a mode, but you can play in major your whole life if you have severe autism.
Start with major, that's WWHWWWH, go 2 frets to the right for W, 1 for H, every 4 frets go to the next string, congratulations you derived the 3 string major scale shape.
So you take 1 hour to fuck around on break learning a 3 string scale shape or derive it yourself. Then you learn a few songs on tab and you see oo look this chord shape moves around the fret board, like a power chord, and you try that, or just play random note combinations that sound cool.
If you put in effort you could learn the basics of how to finger pick (not flamenco but the basics) & the basics of how to write your own chord progressions in 2-3 weekends then get better over time
Anyone can do it. If you don't want to do it, that's fine, but you sound like you have some mental hangups if you can't imagine learning the basics of music or why that's enjoyable rather than larping as being insanely good at an instrument. If you apply that thinking to everything in your life that is deeply sad and I hope you reevaluate your beliefs.

>>105873243
Oh and I forgot the worst of all
>The old ladies and minorities are so retarded I have to spend an hour + with them individually on one call while my boss shits on me for taking so long

>>105872694
further
>practice arbitrary chord construction
It's not arbitrary lol. You have major chords Root -> 4 up -> 3 up from the
minor chords Root -> 3 up -> 4 up
want a weird chord? play the open string before it or steal it from some tabs you learned, play random note combos, you will be learning music for your entire life, you can start by just playing a 4 chord song from a 20 minute youtube tutorial

why is pay so shit in semiconductors lol

>>105873286
The whole point of this reply chain is someone arguing that you should never take a job because it pays more since you could die tomorrow, so you should instead learn how to play guitar. I replied by saying that you could similarly die tomorrow without having learned shit on guitar, so the point is moot. The rest of your post is you waxing needlessly about being able to do something that I was doing in middle school.

>>105872060
Ok but how is the cafeteria food? You should give us an update every day on what you put into your mouth.

New >>105873435

>>105872806
Guitar is ez tho you could get by just knowing cowboy chords and a capo

>>105873078
let these people have their toys, its just a fun project for him that you had to completely shit on. maybe he enjoys the process of making it and its fun for him. he just wanted to share something that made him happy and you got all autistic on him.

>>105873100
>good interior design is running up your electric bill running a dozen lamps at once

>>105873259
>wanting to work for US big tech

Lmao

>>105872642
upload audio of yourself playing something

what youre writing you obviously dont know shit about music. wtf is "count up the scales" and "memorize the tuning" nigga what?

>>105872642
>>105873958
i didnt know /g/oons were this musically retarded honestly guitar is some of the easiest shit in the world after you get the muscle memory of moving your left hand on the neck and actually fretting the strings, most guitarists dont even learn or know any theory thats why tabs exist (and also they give you more information than standard notation)
you could teach anyone to play all the cowboy chords in less an hour and you can already play 99% of any music ever made

>>105874054
less yapping more uploading? also what other information do you get from a tab that is not possible notation in sheet music?

>Dude its so easy blah blah blah
ok its so easy lets see some playing then?

>>105874124
>also what other information do you get from a tab that is not possible notation in sheet music?
tabs let you define flair, you can easily tell when to slide when to hammer on or pull off or when to hit the trem, what should be tapped or strummed, etc
playing guitar in general youre also mostly thinking about shapes in specific places rather than specific notes so its just easier to read something like 353XX rather than Am7 which can be played in dozens of ways but would sound wrong if played in the wrong position

>ok its so easy lets see some playing then?
im not posting myself on /g/ thats retarded

>>105874212
535XX not 353XX for Am7 my bad i just smoked Weed

>>105871119
>how long have you been working at big tech?
About a decade in tech, but only last 3 years in the 200-300k range.

progression was:
60k low tax country
90k US (rest are US to)
130k post aquisition got some liquid RSUs added to the 90k
165k remote
then I got a 70k sign on bonus and 250-300k role during the hiring boom of 2021 lol

A lot of my $ are from asset appreciation in 2019-2021 and going for a big shot at $2M in the great melt up

>>105874124
ik some theory stuff but i don't read sheet music unless forced tbf but the way anon explained theory earlier I don't think he knows what he's talking about

>>105874212
lol. the stuff you write makes it absolutely obvious you dont know how to play. Dude im not posting audio of myself on here and getting hacked. Nice try!

>>105874456
this bait doesnt work, a lot of people can play guitar its not that special i dont even get what your goal is here

>>105874212
just put your fingats on the strings lil bro

>>105874456
Don't worry you can't get hacked on audio we did the EW considperations

>>105874487
guy that cant do gives advice about something
tale as old as time itself
the better part is when called out being con fused people can tell despite it being obvious
>its so easy
t. the guy that cant actually do it