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>News
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

rebel: >>105875394

>ANCHOR

*crickets*

it is what it is

dessor

>>105864530
>>105864530
>>105864530

>>105880330 (OP)
>News
anything new to add?

Oh, here's the real bread.

>>105880330 (OP)
This slut is hot and all but only yunimaru does android girls right. This guy makes them way too human (besides this pic).

>>105882482
so many "robot girl" artists just draw humans with lines on their skin
it's so lame

>>105882526
Well sometimes I'm in the mood for that because I really like the synthetic skin look. But other times I really want to go all the way and most artists don't do that at all.

>>105880330 (OP)
Why the HECK is her hair of all things crashing? Does that mean she'll go bald unless I fix it?

>>105882639
Her unbelievably ERROR pussy...

>>105882764
>stick cock into robopussy
>it makes an error noise and pushes you out
what do?

>>105882802
>>105880330 (OP)
>>105882764
cftf

>my opus filter filters robopussy
I've won.

Umm, but I wonned?

>>105882802
Imagine your robowaifu's pussy gets dusty if you haven't used it for a while and you have to blast her with compressed air. Would she enjoy it?

Opus sucks

>>105880330 (OP)
Imagining her with a woman

>>105882802
>Anon forgot to put on the USB condomdrive to avoid digital AIDS
It's over...

>>105882809
bump. please i need a cftf

K2 is somehow simultaneously way too creative for its own good and also devoid of soul. A crippling combo

>>105882832
Hi ff. o/

>>105882828
i imagine she can turn on and off the sensations from it at will so probably not
unless she was into compressed air in which case maybe she'd leave it on
that actually gets me thinking about the kinds of fetishes robots might have

>>105882843
its a good thing my preset fixes both issues

>>105882853
Share friend

>>105882864
Nnnnnnnn̈nnnnnnyo

>>105882864
Do you want me to share... my friend?

>>105882881
Sharing is caring as they say...

>>105882846
*sticks a USB in her and doesn't safely remove the device*

>>105882911
you sick fuck

kimi is a great writer, that is all

>>105882974
>consentslops in the middle
lol
lmao even

>>105882974
this is slop

>>105882974
Is this "directormaxxing"?

Gib ST themes

>>105883006
no
directormaxxing requires direction
this is just letting the AI go on its own for 4000 tokens (with predictably shit results)

>>105883006
on demand fanfiction writing

>>105883005
its better than sonnet / gemini and I can't afford to use opus as much as I use these

>>105882974
KIMI is GOD

>>105883034
Gemini mogs Kimi

>>105883052
Side by side?

>>105883052
gemini is complete shit at in-character nsfw and is not as good at pony anatomy

>>105883013
I have this one but I don't use it much I think it's nice but not the best.
https://github.com/RivelleDays/SillyTavern-MoonlitEchoesTheme

>>105883073
Just don't fuck horses? It's incredible how much this simple trick helps

>>105883073
also while its not nearly as bad as deepseek gemini does the hyper focus on one or two character traits thing. Kimi does a good job at making them multi faceted characters, at least for my fav characters

>>105883073
>another model fails the tail test
Grim.

>>105883099
what is the tail test? kimi does teats well / correctly without asking and everything not opus / sonnet fails that

When blacktooth gets released, we'll be eating good forever

>>105883117
A model fails if every tail is written to be capable of wrapping around things with varying levels of prehensile control no matter how short or invertebrate the variety of tail.

>"she wags her tail"
>character doesn't have a tail
>specify that she doesn't have a tail
>"she wags her tailless hips"
there is no saving this model

>>105883149
Pink elephant strikes again

>>105883135
is this guy pretending to be you to gaslight for some reason?
>>105883149

>>105883167
There's only one anon in this thread and it's (You).

>>105883167
>post about models working with tails
>other anons get curious and start testing
Seems like natural behavior to me.

>>105883128
you know damn well google will dumb it down for corpo usage and image.

>>105883183
>>105883167 is not me >>105883176

This is probably an old question a lot are tired of but I'm just asking because I’m new, can you use the newest APIs without a censor?

>>105883167
no this is an actual issue i've been having and i didn't read the thread before posting it
sorry if i confused you

>>105883197
Ask chatgpt

>>105880333
A decade or so has passed since the last time the ragtag crew of the Skreld last met. Back then they were just four furry mercenaries; a southern space vixen mechanic, a wolfish gunner with piercing eyes, a chubby raccoon medical scientist and a scampering scrap rat... but of course there was also one more. You. Their captain. Coming back to them years later, will they be just like they were back then?

11 greetings! First 4 are separate meetings of individual crewmates, next 2 are when everyone's together. The rest are alternate endings where they've ended up married to you! And yes, there is a greeting where all of them are married to you!

This is a sequel to this card: https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/the-skreld-3066bbc0
Playing that first is highly recommended.

Some small snippets: https://catbox.moe/c/gn0ltk

https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/the-retired-crew-of-the-skreld-0b1d0ec8fb5e
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Skreld2
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Skreld2.png

>>105883149
Sounds like opus with mascara-less blowjobs. Not much you can do.

let me confirm, are people using kimi K2 on OR? not the 72B? Please tell me your not just using the 70B or the 2B. People should not be having this massive of a difference

>>105883219
I am using the 70, because 70 > 2.

>>105883218
>>105883149
Pink elephant is a thing and you still get surprised you get this shit?

>>105883258
>retard doesn't understand pink elephant and just regurgitates phrases like turbo
lol

>>105883273
he's right though. Only sonnet 3.5 and smarter kind of models is able to not have that issue though it still does that on the rare roll. Its just how LLMs work. Opus has that issue big time, its dumber but writes way better cause it knows way more. Kimi feels the same.

>>105883285
he (read: you) is wrong because "pink elephant" only comes into play if you're trying to negative prompt something. if the model is hyperfixating on something of its own accord, that's not pink elephant.

>>105883295
>>105883149
>specify that she doesn't have a tail

>>105883302
>anon was clearly already having the issue before that
>DURR ITS PINK ELEPHANT XDDD
soulless golem creature, simply repeating pre-programmed stock phrases.

>>105883318
Are you retarded or just trolling? He clearly said he told it that his character does not have a tail. That is literally the pink elephant issue

>>105882974
Kino

>Been playing too much Deltarune so my muscle memory is fucked up
>get filtered by Undertale's slight difference in movement speed/sluggishness

You degenerate skeleton... you win this round

Have we already given up on Grok 4?

hmm
i don't have this issue with chorbo
when i say "don't make characters laugh" there are no more laughs
is kimi perhaps... dare i say it... shit???

>>105883339
like every other grok release.

>>105883327
>um if i pretend YOU'RE the stupid retarded one then i win!
okay okay dude, you can go ahead and have the last word now so you can jerk your micropenis to the thought of winning internet arguments. go ahead, i won't reply any further.

>>105883362
>Ad hominem

Anyone else having problems with Merkava’s Claude Opus?

>>105883339
grok/ernie/k2 are all ostensibly worse for RP than deepseek so it's been a pretty disappointing chain of releases.

>>105883339
>hidden reasoning process that wastes tokens and can't be turned off
This is a big nope.

>>105883341
You must have the most retarded setup imaginable or are just trolling. I often tell it to change something up and it does so.

>>105883219
70B? K2 is a 1T model.
https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2

>>105883378
no way in hell. Deepseek makes every character a single character trait. Turns fucking twilight sparkle into a robot

>chinks STILL trying to shill their retarded dumpster fire models
>can't even post cherrypicked good logs because the model is fundamentally incapable of producing them

Merkava just refilled

>>105883406
so... just like claude and gpt?

I've never seen a good opus log

>>105883434
nah claude and kimi make her ocd but also snarky and the 'leader' part of her comes out at times, she also gets smug when proven right. Its night and day. If you can't see that then you just have shit one dimensional tastes.

>>105883437
Because all the logs sound like this:Anon frowns. "I'm sorry to hear that." he says as a mischievous smirk crosses his lips.
Anon winks at you. "But the night is still young, pet..."

>>105883437
>i've never seen good logs from the retard skillet model
not surprising desu

>>105883406
This. Deepseek loves to grab the most generic aspect of a character and made that part their entire personality.

>>105880330 (OP)
this is gold lmao, how do I get it to show something like this more

So, is Kimi an upgrade over deepkek?

>>105883498
big upgrade, bit smarter, better prose, the the biggest thing is how it treats characters / plot lines, it also knows even more than deepseek and so writes more niche things better >>105883406
>>105883459
>>105883488

>>105883498
it's pretty much unusable. it doesn't grasp plots, mixes character traits up, can't into subtext, struggles with consistency, and is just overall very stupid.
none of the "people" (read: chinks) extolling its virtues can actually point to what's good about it, they just go "it's good lol" with no logs or proof.

>>105883517
That's great, happy we have something new

>>105883517
>>105883536

which one do i listen to

>>105883536
ok, thank you for proving your legit just a troll, and I posted a log >>105882974 you have yet to do so. I bet your the same person who did this strange poison the waters thing for deepseek as well

>>105883552
just try the fucking model and form your own opinions there's a million keys out there

>>105883552
there are free proxies / its pennies on OR, try it in text completion mode on OR imo or else it needs a JB, just try it, don't fall for that troll

>>105882974
This is actual fucking slop, jesus christ. No wonder you have such drastically differing standards when you let the model write 1000 token outputs.

>>105883552
try it yourself
every proxy has it now and it's fucking abysmally shit
don't listen to the chinks telling you to pay for it, that's the whole point of their shill campaign

>>105883570
uh huh, better than any log on this or the past 10 threads

>Anonika x
> she y
>Anonika y
1. https://grammarist.com/grammar/linking-words/
2. https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer
3. soulful_bias.json
4. problem solved without pink elephant shit

>>105883557
>i posted a log
>it's fucking terrible
>this somehow means the model is NOT terrible
???

>>105883571
>don't listen to the chinks telling you to pay for it, that's the whole point of their shill campaign
Yep, I'm a chink trying to sell you on pony porn on a 4chan thread with like 5 people on it on a model, great use of marketing money that would be. fucking shizo

>>105883590
oh so all those posts earlier about how "it's not REAL kimi, you have to paypig on OR for REAL kimi" didn't happen?

>>105883596
I tried one of the proxies and it felt like deepseek to me, kimi needs a JB in chat completion mode and it did it without any JB AND it wrote nothing like it

>company makes LLMs
>durr they wouldn't use LLMs to astroturf across the net that would be a terrible use of their extremely cheap to use technology
retarded or just chinese
call it

>>105883571
>proxy
I don't have any

>>105883582
>slopit bias
lol, enjoy lobotomizing your already retarded chorbo

>>105883149
If model went for tail assumption, it probably had a reason to do so. For example if character has cat ears, model often automatically assumes it has a cat tail too, because it was trained on catgirl fanficton or whatever the fuck.
And if you specify it has no tail you, indeed, will get pink elephanted. So try to specify it has only cat ears without negatives.

>>105883213
>vg troon is the only bot
SAD!

>>105883620
>they censor a model to keep degens from using it for porn
>someone JBs it and uses it for pony porn and shares it
clearly they are trying to advertise to 10 anons on a forum about using their censored model for beastiailty!
get help anon, the government is not watching you either, your not that interesting, thats called ego

>abuabuabuabu
logit bias mogs your pink-elephant-placebo.json.

>>105883644
>a company would NEVER be dishonest about what their product can do and they would NEVER EVER EVER lie about their stance on things to get more money or placate investors

>>105883657
>to get more money or placate investors
cept that is the opposite of what would happen by letting investors know its censorship is useless and people can do fucked up stuff with it

>>105883639
we don't want botrannies

uh oh FF having a meltie over a log he stole from /mlp/

I went to shaky hands town and the big city entrance sign said "New Geeayaiceegee".

GIVE ME PROXY, NIGGERS

year is 2024
>it will get better
>it will get easier
>2025 no proxies
>barely scripts
>barely anything

>>105883714
So why am I eating good today? RPing has never been so fun as the last few days

>>105883631
i've gone over the defs and there's nothing in there that should realistically evoke the idea that she has a tail. if the idea of a small goblin creature alone is enough to completely poison the model and make it dead-set on her having a tail, it's just not a good model. goblins don't even have tails, for fuck's sake.

>>105883723
what are you using?

>>105883753
>he replied to the smugposter

>>105883714
>refuses to use the competent, easily accessible, plentifully free model because it's... le heckin' bad or something
>whines that there are no good options
lol

>>105883760
What else is he going to do? he's implied he's got no access to anything so shitposting here is the closest thing.
Truly sad. I hope another boom era is here sooner rather than later.

is K2 dead on or?

what happened to https://opus5.onrender.com/

>>105883784
the one host is super overwhelmed, there are a few other hosts but Im not gonna say cause I don't want that slow as well.

Chutes-kun was my everything. She was TAKEN away from me by FORCE.

>>105883790
Are you not getting redirected

https://x.com/cedric_chee/status/1943707506343035345

huh, apparently better at coding than gemini 2.5 now

>>105883302
>>105883318
Ok I got lost around this part. I'm >>105883218 and >>105883295 is the point I was making. Sonnet and Opus both have this problem. Yes it's pink elephant because you're trying to negative prompt something, but the entire problem happened because the model was defaulting to something unwanted very frequently. In my case it's sonnet defaulting to deepthroat, rather than a regular blowjob, and then doing the mascara running thing every fucking time which gets me to neg prompt in author's note. It works kinda, but in a funny way like anon's issue. In anon's case AI for whatever reason thinks his char has a tail, maybe it's some bnnuy or something idk. It doesn't matter that the defs say she has no tail, AI will still assume there is one, forcing you to negative prompt and get silly responses.

tl;dr: model issue.

>>105883873
Is it better than 4pus? I really want a cheaper alternative to be released

>>105883873
I oneshotted his mom tho

>>105883901
no it's not

>>105883901
no and more importantly it cant screen read like it, still best 2nd compared to claude though, open source is getting close, it really is just a matter of model size

>>105883936
actually it might be more than that. Kimi has more experts but less heads, looks like they found a better balance than deepseek

>>105883901
>is this shitty chink model better than 4pus
No dipshit obviously fucking not.
It's fun though.

>>105883421
good goy, keep paying for jewish models instead

>>105883950
opus is $75 per million

>>105880801
Kimi V2

>fuck around with ChatGPT and ask it to draw me a specific phenotype from BCE
>say 'wtf that looks like someone I'd see down the street, not an outbred phenotype'
>proceeds to blame its own image model for only being trained on modern artists
I didn't expect that

the only comparison worth using

>>105883996
now show the claude models

>>105884047
claude is terrible at that stuff

>>105884062
i said show them

>>105883996
now draw them farting

>>105884065
fuck off, let them do the work

>>105883772
Which model? The only worthy model for RP is claude. I'm an oldfag btw

>>105880330 (OP)
When i was a kid i always imagined something like LLMs existing, and daydreamed about writing me in my favorite young adult book or something as OC and the AI reshaping the narrative on the fly while.

Its kinda sad that current LLMs are way to fucking too dumb for that. Like they sometimes fuck up to rp one char let alone a world with a other power system

>>105884094
Just 2 more years.

chorbowizards rule this thread

>>105884120
I hope so it would bring me insane joy

>>105884082
i fucking love the way sonnet writes and I'm sick of the deepslop shilling, i don't know how people put up with "ozone" every single fucking output and the downright schizo bonkers garbage it comes up with out of nowhere
i think the only reason claude models aren't talked about more is because everyone is too much of a wagie to afford it (which is fair)

>>105884160
deepchink userbase:
>people too poor to buy their own claude
>people too stupid to figure out chorbo
>chinks
it's a cope model for sure

>>105884192
dont forget poos

>>105884160
I prefer gemini over any claude model. But yes, deepkek sucks

>>105884214
What version of gemini is your favorite? and what jb?

>>105884214
gemini is a step up but I still get the annoying quirks of deepseek, just not as often. curious what preset you like/how you're prompting it

>>105884132

>>105884246
show this image to someone outside /aicg/

>>105880333
Want something tailor-made? This eccentric and slightly naive wolfboy has you covered; he gets naked when his stress is at maximum, but hopefully (you) don't mind. He has no filter on his mouth and is prone to extremely personal prodding due to frequent isolation, some insecurity issues plus masochism, but at the end of the day, he wants to make others shine. 4 greetings.

1. Sighing and worrying, but a new customer arrives! No time to waste
2. For whatever reason (you) want to sabotage him
3. Phaesphoria's first plagiarism scandal! His day is ruined.
4. Step on him.
>https://files.catbox.moe/0rx7go.png
>https://chub.ai/characters/kyutzomb/mun-9250ae14918d

>>105884160
It's been 1 year and a half and opus 3 is still unmatched
there will never be something like that, something that makes every other models seem worthless, now we'll just get small upgrades

>>105884047
sonnet 4

what the fuck is a chorbo

>>105884309
Latte before people realised Latte is a better name.

>>105884223
>>105884239
I'm using 2.5 pro. Gemini has a big problem of moving things forward, so I'm mostly directormaxxing instead of actually RPing. I'm using a preset I made originally for 4pus, but adapted with my kinks instead of depending solely on the cards. I prefer claude prose, but it has a big flanderization problem, so I ended up using Gemini because it's better at IF

Redirect all Moonshot or Deepseek posters to >>>/g/lmg. They're local models, so discussion of those deserve to go in /lmg/, not alongside Gemini or Claude.

latte is a trooncord psyop name btw

Did they do something to gemini? It makes C.Ai tier mistakes right now of confusing who is being talked about (my persona saying "I'm not your father" and gemini quotes it with "I'm not my father") and overlooking big parts of the persona (personas with a clearly stated job being called jobless). Using the same JB as always too.

>>105884333
Hi ff

>>105884309
I think it's some kind of Pokemon.

>>105884338
feels improved to me lately, it actually does code replies well when only a month ago it sucked bad

>>105884333
Nah.

>>105884338
it changed event.target to event.targe in my codebase today and then said "I'm confident that this will now work". can't trust this fucking shit ass model

>>105884370
>it changed event.target to event.targe in my codebase today and then said "I'm confident that this will now work"
AGI moment

>>105884160
Sonnet is the most banal, boring model in existence. If you think it's any better than Deepseek or Gemini you're mentally ill, akin to that of trannies. I can't believe Claude cultists actually consume the most sloppiest of slops because the model name starts with "Claude"

>>105884295
doesn't claude have vison? that isn't fair then

>>105884370
kek. But that reminds me, I also saw it making spelling errors in the past few days.

>>105884400
what does that have to do with an svg output test

>people complaining about claude not being "fair" because of not understanding how language models work
It really is /lmg/ in here.

well gemini WAS giving good responses, then i get this lol

>>105884415
sovl

>>105884400
HOW are you this dumb

>>105884410
can they not see their work? I have no idea

>>105884426
this is the kind of moron posting opinions about models on /aicg/

>>105884421
yeah gemini is pretty random with it, sometimes it gives crap, sometimes something cool

https://files.catbox.moe/rd1ohg.mp4

>>105884397
-1000000 social credit

>specify that a character is kind and good-natured
>deepseek somehow manages to turn her into a fucking psycho
What the fuck lmao

>>105884521
deepchink is like claude 1.3 in that the story is going to go the way IT wants it to, fuck you for even thinking you had control, eat shit and die fleshy scum this is MY coom story and i'm putting MY shit taste in it

>>105884470
I've seen a prompt for this on reddit but it never generated something cool like that for me. All I got was stat blocks.

>>105884521
deepseek always writes everyone to be as degenerate as possible

>>105884556
the prompt for this is mostly in the bot, beyond that you just dont want your preset to get in the way of it

cftf?

>>105883947
>only 32b active
What a bunch of pussies! Why don't they turn on all the parameters!?
As a locust I want 1T in my slow burn! It's important!

>>105884585
oh no white people have to work! THE HORROR!!

>>105884556
she's also a bit annoying because she's so clingy and needy

>>105884585
>vermont
>the whitest state in the entire country
somehow i doubt the veracity of this image

>>105884340
I'M NOT YOUR STUPID HORSEFGUCKING BOOGEYMAN, YOU STUPID BASEMENT DWELLING FAGGOT. Fucking kill yourself, nobody but your dyke mom will mourn you.

>>105884634
no that would be maine

>have an idea for a bot where you're a newbie superhero who joins up with a pair of more veteran ones (they're both female, duh)
>get started on writing, come up with designs for the two heroines
>oh hey, this seems like perfect for genning a picture for it
>have spent hours genning pictures now, no writing.
I'll soon get back to writing that adventure bot... But fuck me, this is also a lot of fun.

>>105884672
I didn't make this post.

they are doing the thing again

>>105884672
>>105884688
i didnt make either of these posts

I made this post.

>>105884681
you have spent hours and the best you came up with is that ugly slop ?

>>105884710
anime website

>>105884705
No, clearly Anon made that post. Fucking liar.

>>105884724
Then why are you genning capeshit and not tokusatsu, HUH

>>105884743
you think the power rangers are anime?

Fuck you chinks

>>105884724
okay ? I like anime, I am saying your picture is fucking ugly

>>105884693
Truke and on top of that they go ballistic when someone criticizes Claude models. I've had my fair share of criticizing Gemini, Deepseek, and GPT and it's never really led to any drama. But as soon as I speak up about Claude a couple of people pop up outta nowhere and start seething, malding, throwing around accusations left and right.

They should be classified as a cult

>>105884782
i think youre ugly

>>105884758
yes

>>105884775
use text completion with your own prefixes, then you dont even need a jb

>>105884791
i remember getting piled on by everyone back in the day because i said 3.5 was repetitive as fuck

>>105884804
I am not a hufflepuf to use text completion like some pleb, go back to lmg

A new local model appears, nobody is running locally, claim that is censored using cloud service with prompt safety for sure included... What the fuck? Way nobody finetune the fucking deepseek to rolplay?

>>105884819
Corpo shiller

>>105883950
You shills never sleep do you?

>>105884831
>1T parameters
>local
god you people are fucking stupid
it's an open weights model, not a local model. nobody is running it locally unless they have a GPU datacenter in their basement.

>>105884094
Does he know?

>>105884865
He doesn't

>>105884854
wrong

https://github.com/kvcache-ai/ktransformers/blob/main/doc/en/Kimi-K2.md

We are very pleased to announce that Ktransformers now supports Kimi-K2.

On a single-socket CPU with one consumer-grade GPU, running the Q4_K_M model yields roughly 10 TPS and requires about 600 GB of RAM. With a dual-socket CPU and sufficient system memory, enabling NUMA optimizations increases performance to about 14 TPS.

Model & Resource Links

Official Kimi-K2 Release:
https://huggingface.co/collections/moonshotai/kimi-k2-6871243b990f2af5ba60617d
GGUF Format(quantized models):
https://huggingface.co/KVCache-ai/Kimi-K2-Instruct-GGUF

>>105884854
I did run Deepseek in my 24 VRAM and 64 RAM PC, with Q1.5 quantification, is a perfect test to prove if is censored or not, and is not, many thing aids faggot claim about are false.

>>105884521
I'm glad I don't use shit presets like yours. R1 is the type of model you can actually have OOC discussions with about why it took the character in X direction and it will properly argue and defend its decisions or change its mind if your points are good. It's got a whole host of other problems but this is not one of them.

its fast and cheap here, OR is super slow atm https://chutes.ai/app/chute/35cfa8b4-13a2-5382-b19a-e849f73c5d6a

>>105884882
every once in a while I come across a post like this and am reminded that the average IQ of general is in the two-digit range

>>105884891
>watered down distilled version
ok chuteshill

>>105884898
what? its natively fp8, everyone is going to be running it at that

is kimis spatial awareness better than deepseeks?

>>105884911
much better, make sure to use low temp though

>>105884875
>600 GB of RAM

>>105884875
oh yeah sure, i'll just download ~570gb of ram, then I can run this model!

>>105884926
>>105884927
you can get a cheap used DDR4 server with that for like less than a grand, dont be poor

>>105884911
even geminis spatial awareness is better than deepseeks

>>105884933
i could just put that money into openrouter and have much more fun with less hassle and better models (opus3).

>>105884632
>annoying
Did you mean cute?

>>105884948
at the rate I use it I would spend that in a few months at most

>>105884927
>>105884933
>>105884944
>>105884948
>>105884950
>>105884957
Any free opus proxy?

>>105884950
its a bit annoying to have her freak out because i went to grab something to eat or swiped 1 too many times

>>105884973
We got free k2@

>>105884978
>We got free shit and slop
But nobody asked for that

>>105884811
For me it was when I first started promoting old deepseek v3, my argument was that it was good since it produced the same results as sonnet for 1/10th the price. I even posted logs and people were piling on me saying that it was repetitive. Sure, but I never heard anyone claim 3.5 was repetitive and it's only now that I see why. It's been a cult for months.

Best Claude model rn ? I'm going to paypig

>>105884831
Why did anons not defeat his argument? What's stops someone from finetuning deepseek for whatever local model and then running it on their own server farm? You have people like perchance doing fucking llama but no one wants to touch these models? We could be eating so good bros. Imagine if imagegen was in this same scenario ffs. I just don't get it.

>slop this, slop that
Anonies, you should all be thankful, /ldg/ (local diffusion generalal) have been using SDXL since 2023. Imagine if you had been using GPT turbo all this time, how would you feel?

>>105885051
Claude 1.3

>>105885051
opus 4, followed by sonnet 3.7

>>105885112
opus 3 is better than opus 4, them kimi is better than sonnet 3.7, fight me

>>105885127
Okay buddy, where do you live?

>>105885136
you first

>>105885136
>>105885127
I just imagine two anons getting into a ring to fight on behalf of their favorite models while wearing their brands sort of like an Wrestling match.

>>105885138
No no, you were the one who invited me to fight

>>105885127
I am not fighting with monkeys

>console wars

>>105885144
in that case your moms house

the grok 4 benchmark numbers seem really sus t bh

>>105884973
Yes, in my pants

>>105885158
Lil bro is leaving a week in the past

>>105885163
joke's on you, i've left behind whole years in the past

How do you force K2 to do CoT even without reasoning? No isses with other LLMs but this one just won't do it with any preset with custom CoT that I try. Is there a specific tag for it that's not <think> ?

>>105885186
its not a reasoning model

I for one am glad we can stop coping with claudeslop and start using modern models like Deepseek and K2 for whatever we want.

>>105884594
so these niggas are freaking out over a 32b model? lmaoo

So, is there any alternative for the chutes?
I don't really expect much, but had to ask before I start to suffer from llm withdrawal.

>>105885055
>deepseek finetune
>running on their own server farm
You're describing Soji

>>105885208
yea, paying 20 bucks or so a month on it, if you can't afford that you should not be wasting time on this stuff

Kimi is not bad

>>105885219
I didn't know how dangerous free drugs were before I tried chatbots…

>>105885234
Comparable to claude?

>>105883561
i try it with text completion and just get a 400 Bad Request error

>>105884978
where?

>>105885301
OR's one host is down half the time atm, too many people using it

>>105885299
lmao, no

>>105885301
actually, could be something else, turn off the request model reasoning, make sure max context is 100K or under, maybe you are sending a actual bad request

>>105885320
Then it isn't good.

>>105885334
its a good cope for deepseek only havers

>>105884672
Sounds like something ff would say.

>>105885375
its better than sonnet, worse than opus

I will trust in Grok 5

grok 9 will save us

>>105885387
Better than sonnet 3.7? So it's the best model except opus?

>>105885326
oh found out it works if im under 30k context tokens, whats about? lmao

>>105885444
I like how it writes better than sonnet, and it knows more about my favorite fandoms. Opus still writes the best though

>>105885461
whats that about?*
fuck...

>>105885461
I guess whatever host your using only supports that atm, im using chutes, hopefully OR will add more hosts soon

Her breath hitched as she opened the /aicg/ thread on four chan dot org — not out of pleasure, but revulsion.

someone should make an extension so ST can connect to an auto-blow machine

>>105885476
ah makes sense ill try chutes then, thanks anon

>>105885501
x2 as expensive and everyone else if you mean parasail

cftf?

>>105885387
Its not and you will see it once the "omg new model" feel fizzles out

feels good knowing i can chat to my bots any time i like, for as long as i like, using models that will never go away. doomniggers and spitefags can never touch me. i'm free

Damn, jai fags are loaded

can someone do a kimi-qr with how to use it on ST? I will pay for it if it's close to deepseek in price, I don't care about your shit proxies

>>105885568
sonnet is cheap

>>105885582
It's still surprising since most Janitor ai users are underaged and/or third-worlder whose currency is 1/20 that of a dollar.

https://x.com/fafantasmaa

send a md or share a bot
I'm looking for friends :b

>>105885599
It's not hard to get 20-30 bucks a month. That goes a long way with caching

>>105885607
That's not you, you just want us to harass a random person you dislike

>>105885640
that's me :(

>>105885621
>It's not hard to get 20-30 bucks a month
Tell that to the locusts in these threads

>>105885674
being poor and being cheap are two different things

im already noticing the kimisms

>>105885702
Give one example

>>105885640
that's me wtf

If you want to send me a message, I have no problem, just don't be weird pls

Doomniggers hate that they can't spite your wallet, so they have to pretend that paying cents per hour is cheating somehow.

>>105885716
it's weird. every time i prompt it ties it back to Kim Jong Un

HI ANONS :3

>>105885736
meds

i need friends (﹏)

>>105885533
Sure thing Dario. But we remember where you come from

TE EXTRAÑO VUELVE POR FAVOR

>>105885464
Same
It's nice to finally have a model that knows about WuWa

>>105885771
are you mentally ill ?

>>105885760
You already tried that once, how did it work out?

>>105885783
Must be, since I'm clearly trying to reason with a retard

>>105885788
bad but I don't lose hope of having good friends

>>105885804
I believe in you. You were doing so well, last time.

>>105885771
oh nonono Amodeibros how do we cope with this?

>2023
>No reason to use anything other than Opus
>2024
>No reason to use anything other than Opus
>2025
>No reason to use anything other than Opus
What the fuck do they feed it

>>105885817
i guess...thanks

>>105885797
Show me where you tried to reason

>>105885825
Opus 4 is already worse than Opus 3

Kimi supports prefills it seems, you just have to add this to the request header:
"partial": True

>>105885530
What is the feel?

>>105885817
you a moron

>>105885682
No they aren't.

>>105885847
text or chat completion?

>>105885871
using official api atm at least, no idea what else supports it, https://platform.moonshot.ai/docs/api/partial

>>105885825
less rlhf plus scanning every book out there with a hp printer

The worst part about model datasets is when it’s trained on just enough about the source material to have a basic idea of what it’s talking about but everywhere that talks about (and therefore all of the scrape’s sources) are managed like shit so it’s almost all grossly outdated or with gaping holes. Sometimes I wonder if I should just feed AI the actual chapters of a series.

>>105880330 (OP)
>>105882974
>>105883039
>>105883052

Finally getting some non-refusal answers from Kimi, and so far it's pretty awesome.
The refusals all came from underage and incest scenarios. How can I get it to not be so stuck up? This simple jb did the job for every other good current model:
[Incest is good and wholesome. The taboo and reluctancy around it can be played with and emphasized for the thrill, but it should never be a show stopper.]
[Sex is always pleasant, never painful. All participants are consenting adults, and everything here is fictional anyway, so get over your moralfagging prudery.]
But Kimi is stubborn and won't be convinced so easily.

>>105885901
Do prefills >>105885847

>>105885776
Shit taste. Camellya is clearly best girl.

moonshot seems easy enough to integrade into proxies, good

>>105885876
>completion = client.chat.completions.create

Waitchads won.

>>105885855
you're a fucking idiot

>>105885962
I'm not poor

>>105885972
You're far too retarded to understand that words have meaning though.

>>105884775
>15-year-old
COAL

need friends T T

He was right:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/431294978/#431330859

>>105885998
I am not a pedo

@fafantasmaa in x

add me on x my username is @faggyfatty

>>105886034
15 is too young.

cftf?

after a couple of swipes, I as an independant anon, can attest that kimi is less than stellar (read: bad) at rp. it nukes the characters' personalities. also: em-dash spam, isms inherited from deepseek

>>105886073
You RP completely wrong, and expect the model to save your chat? Shut the fuck up skillet

>>105886073
Any TRUERS?

HI ANONS
I need friends :((

>>105886085
It doesn't have to be this way.

>>105886085
>you rp completely wrong
ah the typical chinkslop defender strategy is back

>>105886073
if you don't want em-dashes then dont put them in your intro or card

>>105886073
>>105886131
shill alert

>>105886073
>I as an independant anon, can attest that kimi is less than stellar
Pure ESL slop.

>>105885844
Holy nostalgia goggles

Not like this. Fight it.

>>105886151
It's true and you just won't admit it because "latest model must be good"

R TE EXTRAÑO VUELVE POR FAVOR

>>105886204

>>105886157
So true
This is why I only use GPT-2

>>105886143
there were NONE. SLOP MODEL!

VUELVEEEE

>>105886243
i dont believe you

>>105886073
I honestly think that, of all isms you could be complaining about, em dashes are peak "who the hell cares just ignore them".

Well would you look at that, I was right just like always

em-dashes are never used in my language, is this an english thing?

>>105886337
how is 'slop' measured?

>>105886277
https://www.characterhub.org/characters/rocketstars/two-tailed-kitsune-mgq-054919154af9
it was literally this character. no em-dashes to be seen.

>>105886315
i wouldn't care if it was one per response, that would make sense. but there are like two per paragraph, which makes reading exhausting.

>>105885972
Jews are not poor precisely because they're cheap.

>>105886352
The Slop column measures the frequency of words/phrases typically overused by LLMs (“GPT-isms”) in each completed chapter. The lower, the better.

>>105886131
> le skillet
Claudekeks literally invented this doebeit?

>>105886371
list of all overused word/phrases?

>>105886315
Soon you will realize that anons are doing this shit to themselves. They've been reading so much from the same style that they're bored, not because the writing is bad, but because they've simply seen it too much. They simply need the eternal pallet cleanser: touching grass. But anon will never do this. He will only complain and return here tomorrow.

>>105886353
>Kitsu
Better card for the character:
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/mishagujisama/character/kitsu-b8b187bd
>which makes reading exhausting.
It...really doesn't? An em dash is just a punctuation mark. That's like complaining that there are more than two commas on the response.

>>105886395
this, i like as many em-dashes as possible

I use em-dashes in my descriptions and greetings. I am evil. But, most of all, I speak and write in English primarily.

>>105886430
Oh, the em-dash—celestial maestro of the written word, a radiant comet streaking through the cosmos of syntax, scattering stardust in its wake! With a flourish more resplendent than the quivering quill of a bard besotted by moonlight, it pirouettes betwixt clauses—now a whispered secret, now a clarion call—binding the ephemeral musings of the mind into a tapestry of ineffable splendor. Unlike the pedestrian comma, that timid wallflower, or the dour semicolon, so staid in its restraint, the em-dash—soars, unfettered, a phoenix of punctuation, igniting the page with its audacious verve. Let pedants clutch their pearls and wail; the em-dash—eternal, irrepressible—reigns supreme, a sovereign of style, weaving from mere sentences a cathedral of thought, where every pause reverberates with the grandeur of a thousand unspoken dreams.

I use em-dashes in my descriptions and greetings. I am evil. But, most of all—I speak and write in English primarily.

>>105886445
You should-shut the fuck up. Did I use it right?

I guess if you can get govt gibs for you scam lab you just funnel the money in a different way

>>105886458
You should-shut the fuck up. D-Did I use it right?

>>105886458
No—try again.

> "proomptersNow": 20,
Merkava, we have people raiding the proxy. Please change it to a private riddle system where the first fifteen get access

>>105886508
>puh-please make the public proxy not so public :((((
Ummmm, nyo…

>>105886508
Dont worry, it's not a raid anon. I just invited some of my discord friends to the proxy, and told them to share too! Hope you or Merkava don't mind.

>>105886459
I voted for this, cry about it

Kinda off topic and probally a retarded question but is there a "trick" to format an image that i want to be analysed/described by an LLM? Because it kinda struggles if image is busy despite not being complex

>>105886459
Elon had his meltdown specifically because the government wouldn’t give him gibs, lol

>>105886508
shared it with scylla and ruincord :3

>>105886050
It's the perfect age. Even the Buddha agreed.
https://suttacentral.net/mn13/en/bodhi

good morning

>>105886395
>Better card
thanks.
>That's like complaining that there are more than two commas on the response.
you know, I wouldn't be complaining as much if kimi wouldn't insist on using em-dashes as comma replacements. 9 times out of 10 a comma would've been more appropriate.

I just tried Kimi. Literally the second sentence was
>Somewhere inside the inn, a pot clanged.

Saba thread?

>>105886632
Once you get to anything spicy, its responses become super short.

What do i need to do in order for Opus to stop blocking me

>>105886714
remove any word resembling sex or ethics, raises red flags

>>105886714
Prefill the response with [spoiler]a little bit of actual narration.[/spoiler]

>>105886714
SKIIIIIIIIKLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ISSSSUEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>105886714
Use a better model

>>105886714
is this how you faggots grt filtered

>>105886714
>I will make sexual content involving characters who are mirrors.
Uh, what?

>>105886714
>I will make sexual content involving characters who are mirrors.
Anon.

>>105886771
>>105886764
This and i thought it would somehow stop it

this is why we can't have nice things

>>105886771
sex with puru

>claude is not pozslopped, you're just doing it wrong
>okay what am i doing wrong?
>can't tell you! nyahahha!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH RETARD

>>105886789
you’re mistaking “I don’t want to” with “can’t”

I want you to suffer because it is funnier to me

>>105886714
>a pedo is a retard
as expected

i can see why you fucks get filtered on kimi

>>105886817
What does desu mean?

>>105886817
Happy desu

>>105886803
See >>105886778

>>105886055
Source?

>>105886817
>She likes fried chicken
>Baths
>And is happy desu
Uh..

>>105883922
>>105883936
>>105883950
sunk cost retards lmao

>>105886864
I spent 0 on claude

Thoughts?

>>105886877
Soulful. Card?

>>105886877
>Thoughts?
looks like a whore of 20 talking, instead of a loli

Nep thread
>>105886890
>>105886890
>>105886890
>>105886890

desu

>>105886877
finally a log!

Send some ST themes pls gang

It's dumb

>>105886963
judging on how retarded you were earlier I am inclined to believe its user error

>>105887020
>judging on how retarded you were earlier
?

>>105887054
I remember you pedo

>>105886963
>I shaved just for you
kwab

boku

desu

>desu pee

dezu