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Previous: >>105873435

>performance review didn't happen because boss didn't have access to my files
I GUESS I WIN BY DEFAULT

learn a trade

>>105890711
I like driving and am afraid of heights. Any recommendations?

>>105890812
you could be a driver, anon. try to avoid heights.

>>105890812
5G array repairman. You get to work mostly within the city, on the tops of minarets and stuff!

>>105890812
plumber

>>105890812
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DLn_qlC3zGY

Imagine pivoting your career in your 30s
>Mmm yes I'm 35 year old office worker guess I'll become a fisherman now
Your existing field would have to be horrific or completely obsolete

>>105890945
some people enjoy exploring life

>>105890962
Plenty of time to explore life after you retire early from a FAAG salary

thanks for reminding me i should be doing something more fun; i've already been half-retired for a few years and can make enough for another two with 6 months of "work"

today i will get piss drunk on spirits but maybe tomorrow I'll do some sewing or something

>>105890990
have fun "enjoing" life as a fat 60 yo boomer

big interview coming up tomorrow. i'll try to have the shameless confidence of a jeet.
wish me luck brothers.

>>105891046
just remember: nothing negativ ever. just go balls deep

>>105890990
>>105891005
>>105891046

You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's autism.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people call you a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.

Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of forum posts have allowed programmers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with AI generated tech buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at some scam startup, they'll lay you off the second they find out that you haven't completed any non school related projects.

You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a "proprietary test framework" so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence where all you did was push README updates over and over, and that the core codebase was stolen off an open source GPL licensed project which you're shamelessly profiting off.

Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a spoofed business phone number and start cold calling old people into redeeming your gift card scam.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>105890945
Being a near-shore fisherman ain't that bad
You just work from 3am to 10am. Half of those time are just standing around waiting to raise the fishing net as well as grilling some leftover fish

>>105891282
why does this mouthbreather keep spamming this thing?

>>105891596
Same question is asked as to why the furry doesn't fucking stop posting and go to work. He neither works in Tech, IT or RF. He is barely adjacent to anything even remotely related to the topic at hand.

How do I talk to my manager about wanting to cut my teeth on streaming and getting put on the streaming team?

>>105891735
Did you learn anything about how streaming is done either in the programming end, protocols, servers, or codecs? If you have then you can sell him that you have been reading up on the topic and would like to do a technical interview with one of the team members that handles hiring for their position. They are alot more lenient if you actually know something about the job before consideration.

>>105891758
>>105891758
>Did you learn anything about how streaming is done either in the programming end, protocols, servers, or codecs?
I've got GCP ACE and Kubernetes KCAD so kinda? Foundational understanding of what is going on under the hood.

>3 of the 4 jeets hired to replace engineers on my team were put on extended probation on Friday
Getting my hopes up that they get sacked soon is a futile effort but I'm gonna go it

>>105890945
I just want to feel like I'm doing something useful. IT hasn't done anything useful in ages except for AI

i found out the other day that i'm the highest paid engineer in our team barring our boss

>>105890711
In Japan

>8 years ago
>be a retarded junior with no experience or skills
>offers left and right
>present
>highly experienced and certified lead devops
>looking for a job for 9 months now, maybe 4 interviews total, no offers

its over, isn't it?

>>105891979
'fraid so

>>105891979
Took me 12 months to get hired again after my last layoff as senior devops

>>105891979
Everything is fucked. I'm completely pessimistic at this point. What's this world gonna look like 20 years from now?

>>105891979
>certified
He fell for the meme lmao.

>>105891995
Took me 13 months
And the job sucks ass (pays well enough though)

>>105891979
devops and qa engineers are the first ones to go when things get rough
so sorry anon

>>105892035
Have you tried asking AI?

>>105892035
I don't understand wasn't the Zion Don elected to fix the job market? Why is the economy not improving?

>Can't drive
>Fear of heights
>Hate talking to people
>Complete lack of any creativity
>Just want TV and Vidya

What's my fallback plan if AI steals my job or whatever?

>>105892454
Night security guard? Or NEET if you live in a country with a generous welfare system

just came here to post this

>>105892579
very based

>>105892579
What kinda job even

>>105892579
Bullshit, I taught my raven C and he's learning Devicetree rn

>>105892035
it could be very bleak. peter turchin predicted US could undergo a collapse in the 2040s, which seems like a pretty good estimate.
my biggest concern is intelligence agencies have been pumping nonwhites full of hateful anti white rhetoric for like a decade now, and its not going to just vanish when the time is convenient.
every civilization has a lifespan. western civilization has been said by many to be in its declining phase. its there is a real chance we will be alive when it collapses.
collapse doesnt necessarily mean things fall apart overnight and lots of violence ensues. archeologists have a specific and broad criteria for collapse that involves basically an observable decline in the archeological record of art, culture, philosophy, military, government, and so on.
the thing i worry about is how chaotic this collapse could be, and my position in the world and how susceptible it is to being swept up by senseless violence during this period.
if the electricity goes out for a week straight, how safe are you and your family?
theres realistic chances of conflict between china and the US which is potentially hell on earth.
after writing this i realize this reads like a cringe tryhard /pol/ post. maybe i read too much spengler. hopefully nothing happens and we slave away writing shitty CRUD apps peacefully.

does anyone here have any experience working with libopencm3?

I can't wait for work. It's almost Monday.

>>105891979
Cloud meme is over desu. Cloud being fully ai-afied reduces jobs even further.

If something is "convenient" then it's obvious that it's easy to automate and reduce workforce.


>>105891643
Pls be nice to the bot. His posts started to be legible.

>>105890945
Imagine obsessing with men, in their 30s. You're gay.

>>105892533
I neeted for around 9 years in the UK, suppose I could always do that again. Jobcentre people are a bunch of cunts though. Night security guard sounds good, no WFH tho :(

Writing unit tests and documentation is boring. Only try hard bootlicker smelly nerd types do this stuff.

Fight me.

>>105894602
Should have just done your documentation beforehand

>>105892035
About ten years ago I was in Jakarta for work and everywhere I went, I saw these massive luxury hotels and apartment buildings and surrounding them were tin shacks with people selling clove cigarettes for 80c a pack.

Probably something like that, except everywhere.

>>105894602
gonna be honest lad, with copilot there's no excuse anymore

>>105894737
The excuse is that our product codebase is over 20 years old and is mostly untestable at this point.

>>105894737
Copilot is exactly what I use for documentation. It shits out war and peace and half of it is wrong but idgaf. It'll confuse some useless jeet or middle manager in the future. Fucking win in my book.

>>105894941
>tfw when wfh

>>105894798
>product codebase is over 20 years old
I'm surprised how common this seems to be these days.
Our project passed sprint number 500 some time ago, mostly two week sprints, more during summers. That's over twenty years of uninterrupted Scrum hell.
Although doing Scrum is mostly just a reflex these days, no progress ever gets done and the codebase is mostly unmaintainable by now.

>hey anon have you ever done this before?
>uh no sorry, no experience
>okay nvm I'll give it to someone else

Why does it always work this way?

>>105895008
Every PR we merge now is basically just adding feature flags and if statements. It's impossible to change existing code because you don't know what it will break. You can't even fix obvious bugs because some part of the product you've never heard of depends on that incorrect return value, and there's no tests for it, so you deploy your fix to prod and everything breaks, so you disable the change and create a new task to get the other team to fix their bug but until then you have unused code sitting there

>>105895055
>Every PR we merge now is basically just adding feature flags and if statements.
this is literally our team except our product (no, not the main one) is a couple of months old lmao
tech lead doesn't see anything wrong with this so oh well

>>105895088
>tech lead doesn't see anything wrong with this so oh well
because working for more than 1-2 years in one company is cringe and boomers' destiny

>>105895088
and it's crazy because you can never even guess what will happen
>major code change to prepare for new feature
>this will probably break everything
>...it's fine

>fix a minor ui glitch
>next day: GM SIR PLEASE REVERT THE CHANGE YOU ARE BLOCKING DEPLOYMENT

>>105895007
doesn't even change anything for me anymore, i still dread mondays
other than being completely unprepared for the day i might have to rto due to company switch e.g.

anyone got the "just do the bare minimum" pic? I need it for morale

>>105895291
i might

>>105895342
thanks, my spirit is at peace now

>>105895368
the bare minimum keeps increasing with time thoughever. be careful!!!

WWYD?

>>105895617
idk what the context is but you keep your inner thoughts to yourself, your friends, and anons on 4chan. Don't expose your elite ball knowledge to normalfags who get upset about everything and will put you in front of HR

Things were never going to improve.

>>105895617
clearly you don't redeem, duh

>Put in a ticket for help
>Try to help the user
>"Well let me do this instead...."
THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU ASK ME FOR HELP THEM, YOU RETARDED PECKERWOOD

>>105892035
My guy, AGI is almost certainly predicted to come in 2027, we're fucked even a decade from now much less 2

>>105895949
Speak of the devil.
Is it only me who started politely rejecting any help requests, especially if it comes from another team, because it consumes time and it can't go to my report? Ever since the layoffs started, nobody has invented or implemented anything big, only working for KPI.

>>105895342
sex with this creature

>>105896015
>AGI is almost certainly predicted to come in 2027
In two years? AGI isn't going to come from LLMs

there's a concentrix office near my house, should I go bomb it

>>105896015
Put down the crack pipe

>>105895342
which youtube video essay did you watch to get informed on the topic so i can catch up? any other hot tidbits of wisdom there zoomzoom? if at all possible id like the video essayist to be a guy with an ironic mullet, ironic moustache, tattoos, and no technical background please.

>>105896625
coffee ferret

>>105896015
2 more years!

>>105896353
>>105896551
>>105896662
>they are unaware
>https://ai-2027.com/

>>105893133
I'm expecting a dragged-out decline as opposed to a dramatic collapse. They will pull every possible trick to keep delaying the collapse until it is effectively spread over a century long decline.
>>105892454
Deliver food using an e-bike.
>>105892579
Yeah jobs like that don't exist anymore.

>Pay Range: $90,000 - $110,000 per hour
damn, I hope I get it

>>105896952
>le ghibli ai slop
Jeet Detected

>>105890552 (OP)
i need a gf bad, bros

>>105897440
>an artist crying about being replaced here of all places
lol you lost, artfags are a product of a bygone area and have been completely replaced by better machines
TOTAL ARTIST DEATH

>>105897932
>called out as jeet
>instantly goes aggro
Why are indian scammers like this?

>>105897932
>>105897440
>>105898120
You're both retards.

>>105896333
Ha ha ha LOL anon that was funny!!! You should do standup!!! I've never heard that before LOL ! !!

>>105890552 (OP)
Based, Anon? Based on what?

>It's Monday
>Can't wait till I get to the office

>>105898211
Based on regex searches in the logs, obviously.

i've picked up shitcoin gambling to try to get out of this hell

Trillion euro startup idea: A device powered by the blockchain and empowered by AI to take hot air from outside, make it cold, then blow it inside. Who's building this with me?

>>105898345
>A device powered by the blockchain and empowered by AI
kek
Sorry but I'm already bootstrapping a MVP for me and anon's idea where bits are encoded into audible wavefronts for packet transmission.

>>105898429
But did you solve all the EW problem? What if someone records silence and plays it back really loud over your signal?

>almost monday
please PLEASE don't do this to me

Not to sound bitter, which I LITERALLY am, but tech and tech adjacent jobs use to be the exclusive domain of high iq freaks with aggressive, nuclear level aspergers and autism. The foul smelling, fedora wearing, magic the gathering guy or the unsigihtly pudgy woman with no regards to shaving her facial hair, two archetypes that used to exist completely wiped out by a mass extinction event and the unsightly fungus that picked up their niche are the subhuman crickets posting memes on teams about 'vibe coding' and being founders and how cracked they are or whatever other dog dick horse shit techfluencers are peddling now to sell their online course goyslop. I refuse to use the word 'techbro' because much like 'troon' or 'nigga', it was coopted by these botfly maggot cockroaches. This world is in desperate need for another Slobodan Milosevic.

I got 40/50 on the CCAT
Yes hiring manager I'll take that job now haha

>>105898658
Seething

>>105898631
Brother I hate to tell you this but it's already Monday afternoon

>>105898658
Total normie removal.

>>105891282
this

>>105891596
>truth bombing larping FAGMAN larping FIRE larping techie big money bags lierman hurts my feelings

I bet it does buddy boy I bet it does...

>>105891945
lol... you have no committs and so forth.

>>105896015
AGI at the level beyond an earth worm is not possible, but... even if for the sake of argument I agree AGI were possible then my question is:

Why does everybody think it will take over programmer jobs? Instead of taking over all other jobs EXCEPT programmer jobs to duh program the AGI u dummies.

why is early male pattern baldness so common in tech compared to other fields
>it's because of stress
stress has nothing to do with male pattern hair loss
my theory is that prenatal exposure to testosterone is the cause of both early balding and analytical, autistic brain

I can't wait until AI learns to weld!!

where the FUCK did the weekend go???

>>105898796
probably a mix of whatever causes their autism but also mostly working inside, poor diet, maybe some exposure to mold and such from working in dingy offices

>>105898796
>why is early male pattern baldness so common in tech compared to other fields
Low quality betas went into tech in droves and are now in their 30s/40s

>>105898811
>>105898690
>>105898631
bros it is fucking thursday. what are you niglets on

>>105898796
i don't see much male pattern baldness in tech, so I disagree with your premise. Maybe it is where you live...

selling all my bitcoin to get hair plugs (i dont have male pattern baldness i was just exposed to caustic materials once)

>>105898812
Literally nothing to do with any of that

i scratch my temples excessively and gave myself a widow's peak

>>105898873
based dracula defeating the brainscalp worms

>>105892035
>>105893133
Well, to be fair, there's a laundry list of sociologists, economists, think tanks and other academic folk that predict a collapse of the USA by the 2040s.

National Intelligence Council (NIC) - Global Trends 2040: A More Contested World (Published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence - ODNI).

Koltko-Rivera, M.E. - "The Threat of U.S. Societal Collapse by 2040" (Houston Foresight, 2023).

Herrington, Gaya (System Dynamics Society, formerly KPMG/MIT) - Work revisiting the "Limits to Growth" model, specifically her 2020/2021 analyses which suggest a potential "decline" or "collapse" around the 2040s on a "business-as-usual" trajectory.

Naudé, Wim - "The End of the Empire that Entrepreneurship Built: How Seven Sources of Rot will Undo the West" (Focuses on systemic decline of the West, with implications for the US).

Galtung, Johan (various works on the decline of the US empire, with some earlier predictions of its onset around 2025).

Diamond, Jared - Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed (Provides a framework for understanding societal collapse, though not a specific prediction for the US in the 2040s).

Andrew W. Marshall Foundation - "U.S. Collapse: A Chain-Writing Experiment" (A speculative exercise exploring scenarios for rapid US decline).

I got exposed to hair and now my arms won't bend

>>105898899
Yeah?

I got exposed to capitalism and now I have no connection to the fruit of my labour

>>105898899
You can literally blame progressives and clueless 401k / pension humping boomers for all of this.

>>105898899
God i can't wait.
Hope Yellowstone erupts too and sinks the entire sinful continent to the bottom of the sea.

>>105898899
drumpf will fix it by importing more indians to make the lines go up

I got exposed to communism and now I have a job in the computer mines

>>105898951
Computer mines already exist

>>105898690
Hi Chinese friend. Can you recommend Chinese furry/kemono comics? For educational reasons obviously.

>>105898631
>>105898821
It is Monday, and I'm owm to office already.
>Thread becomes active when I have to pay attention to what's happening on road.

>>105898975
I got exposed to this creature and had sex

Going to my next job interview in a black and red silk Qipao embroidered with images of groundhogs, beavers, marmots, and one capybara

In 2008 you went to a job interview in a suit and tie
In 2025 you got to a job interview at your kitchen table wearing a jumper

>>105899069
>implying I don't take it from my back yard at sunset wearing a camo fursuit so I can damage the bit rate and light level adjustment as much as possible

>>105890812
High-rise window washer

Why the fuck am I being held responsible for product roadmap, component procurement, design, management, hiring, and negotiations?

>>105899113
because the market is in the gutter and thus you're exploitable

>>105899091
If you wanted to damage the bit rate why wouldn't you just make your background an animated screen of static

>>105899125
i have further ulterior motives (sexual)

>>105899113
employers have realized that "tech" "people" are so obsessed with their so-called "trade" and so inept at doing anything else that they can hire one intern and he'll be willing to pay the company for the privilege of working on a computer

goodnight /twg/

>>105899184
nigga it's 9 in the morning on a saturday are you well

>>105893133
>>105898899
Nothing ever happens.

>>105899190
nigga its 5am on a monday

>>105899224
surely just printing money and handing it to techbros who don't even make or sell any products won't have any negative consequences for quality of life of average citizens

>>105899255
>greenland poster
moahds, get this fucking abbo out of my stream

>all these confused anons who don't realize it's currently 3:26 PM on Wednesday July 13th 2026
Trillion dollar startup idea: A device that uses AI to tell you what time it is right now.

>>105899281
>>105899255
>>105899190
They wish they were at work already.
I'm at work already and drinking tasty coffee.
>Train was 5-10 minutes late
>No cool fürry friends, at work tho

I wish I could directly translate the results of standardized exams into a job

moving to europe solely because they still have Radio Shack like stores and i can fulfill my dreams of being a janky computer repair guy in a small village where everyone is fucked up on pine spirits most of the day

as a full-blown blank slate for a neet with a love for learning, is it worth training some tech skillz towards getting a government job since they seem to be the only stable-looking ones? if so, what should a total beginner begin with in your opinion?

>>105899408
gubberment doesn't do its own dev and just buys off-the-shelf stuff, and internal hell desk can be comfy but is basically there for retiring military and boomers' children to get easy jobs. you're ngmi it

>>105899408
I have an actual degree and got turned down for IT gov jobs (all levels). They only hire if you're a vet, minority or overqualified senior who got blacklisted in the private sector.

>>105899408
>federal gubberments worldwide are cutting costs
>state/provincial/municipal governments have no power and no money

>SHULD I DO A L33TC0DE & GO WORK FOR GUVERNMENT JO B >>>>????

>>105899445
>got turned down for IT gov jobs (all levels).
I've been getting rejected too and been wondering why. Happen to know a guy who works for my state so I asked him. Even government jobs are getting blasted with applications. He had to go through about 500 of them. I'm not even in a crowded state, and they're all apparently getting so many applications. Things are really just that bad right now.

>>105899479
>"that bad"
anon, government jobs have always been in high demand. Not only do they pay decently but they offer absurdly good job security.

Another day of driving the packets from site to site. It's long lonely days out there on the road but it's honest work to keep the internet up

>>105899512
Oh. I guess my perception has been wrong. I assumed most people avoided them because they didn't pay as well even if they had nicer benefits. Some people would rather take higher pay and bragging rights.

>>105899587
you're probably thinking of "jobs for a government service" like being a teacher where you make jack fuck and your position is incredibly precarious rather than "jobs IN goverment", which would be shit like literally working at the school board itself where no one knows what you do or how to fire you and you're mandated by law to make at least 80k doing it.

We have the tools that enable code-illiterate idjits to build full software projects available basically for free.

Why aren't there a million tiny tech companies being built right now, or are there? I've already started a couple/few that were lackluster commercially.

I'm currently starting a sales startup tech stack that will propel my non-tech/tech-adjacent startup by simplifying freelancer (contractor) onboarding, payment, etc. and hopefully be a portal for other businesses to use the contractors.

What do you have to say for yourselves, /twg/ ?

>>105899644
>Why aren't there a million tiny tech companies being built right now
there are

>>105899661
I don't see much about it, and I think the truth is that even AI tools generating large portions of code just enable those already knowledgeable and capable to do so faster.

Cursor is a fantastic solution because it has access to the local files you're working with and runs console commands in an automated fashion, do people know about these tools?

>>105899668
>i haven't seen it therefore it doesn't exist
american take, despite this sort of thing existing pretty much only in america

look up "private equity" firms and how they work. the idea is basically you make up some business with the express purpose to sell it. this exists in tech too and app stores and widget stores are abound with slop that literally only exist to get VC money until they hit "MVP" and then after that to sell the entire company at a bullshit high "valuation" to retarded boomers who continue to use them as financial instruments rather than as a tangible business that makes a product or provides a service

>>105899661
those companies are all bullshit ai grifters looking for someone to buy out their ip. They're not hiring

>>105899717
sad, even with the tools they still fuck it up apparently?

>>105899717
the truth is that techbros are too unimaginative to create anything truly new, and normies are well-satisfied by 60s level tech with the sole exception of needing a glowing rectangle in their pocket to get mad at via chinese social media.

name even one problem left in "tech" that needs solving for normies. even one new piece of software that has to exist

the only thing left is grift by people who know that they've run out of products to sell

>>105896785
This is just completely made up and makes all sorts of assumptions, namely that the only limitation to AI's effectiveness is how much data and compute there is available for training. I recommend you to read some actual arguments backed by data instead of this work of fiction you've linked: https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/will-scaling-work

>>105899744
>name even one problem left in "tech" that needs solving for normies. even one new piece of software that has to exist
AI powered blockchain

>>105893039
Proofs?

>>105893614
It's joever, bla bla bla, etc.

>>105899744
>name even one problem left in "tech" that needs solving for normies
Perfect printers
Browsers that don't move elements around as I'm about to click during loading

>>105899799
>Perfect printers
>Browsers that don't move elements around as I'm about to click during loading
we had both of these in the 90s and early 00s before people like (You) decided they needed to keep touching it and fucked it all up

>>105899800
Aww he's trying

>>105899612
Yeah when you put it like that it makes more sense.

>>105899807
OK so we agree it's a problem that exists

>>105899800
medium and large birds look like they would be really satisfying to pet

>>105899817
the solution isn't AI slop and blockchain shit and yet more microservices thoughbeit

we simply have to go back. a windows 98 era of computing but with the hardware of today would be perfect. maybe we can keep video streaming (but even that was well understood back then, there just werent fast enough connections for it)

Company laid me off last week. Its a late stage “startup” thats been losing money every year. Last year they hired a bunch of jeet vps and ever since tried to replace us with jeets. Im sad that i no longer have a job but it feels like this company is dying a certain death and maybe dont have many years left. Im stuck between
>it fucking sucks
To
>im finally free

>>105899744
Why do you assume the only technical innovation possible is for consumers? The vast, vast majority of new technology is aimed at companies. Of course, I'm not surprised you'd immediately leap to this conclusion on /g/ - Consumer Technology

>>105899853
>The vast, vast majority of new technology is aimed at companies.
thank goodness, yet another SAP module!!!!!!! it was literally impossible to track shipments before this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>105899847
fisting teddie while he wears the alice outfit (still in weird lightbulb shaped circus bear form)

>>105899829
I do agree that even Debian 13 is fucking shit. The UI is fucking shit, they even fucked up the typical systemd utilities somehow.

UI components being animated and "dynamic" was a terrible decision to begin with.

>>105899810
>>105899818

>>105899644
in my experience so far you still have to know how to program. the larger the codebase the less likely it is to solve even the simplest of bugs, and it wont implement simple features properly on existing code.

>>105899960
Who's a good little bird
I'd be scared to handle, they're so delicate

My manager, for many months, has been ambushing me every month or so. She calls me near the end of the day with one or two things she says I've done wrong. I find it difficult to engage in an effective conversation under such circumstances. She ends the conversation with "let me know how I can help you" and some additional comment such as "the depth and breadth of your analysis is lacking"

This does not feel constructive

My manager, for many months, has been ambushing me every month or so. She appears near my house at the end of the day with one or two semi-automatic weapons. I find it difficult to engage in an effective conversation under such circumstances. She ends the engagement with protracted AR-15 fire and some additional comment such as "The only hope for traitors is Judgement" and "Blame yourself or God; Know that animals have no God."

This does not feel constructive

Been married for a year and now I'm going to the office 5 days a week instead of just the 3 we're required. I identify too much with pic related now. It's over

>>105899847
Getting laid off by my shitty startup was awesome for me in the long run. No more crazy stressful grind at work from psychopath management, I got to chill as a NEET for a few months, and I had time to grind the fuck out of leetcode to get a job that doubled my salary with half of the stress of the startup

>>105900762
lol

>>105900819
if you hate her that much why don't you just divorce her?

>>105901014
You wouldn't get it

I've been at the same company for 13 years, I'm 35.
Only reason I didn't fuck off is that whenever I brought my better external offers, they gave me an even better one to retain me.
Globo corpo bought our company a year ago, wouldn't surprise me if layoffs happen in a year or two.

Didn't go to uni, don't have certs, self-taught Software Engineer and respected in the field I work at (PCS Automation) in Switzerland, Austria and Germany
How over is it for me?

>>105901041
>Aaaaaah oh no I maybe might possibly be at risk of losing my job in 1-2 years it's so over

>>105899408
The government way over hired and now a bunch of them are being laid off (and bitching loudly about it.) That's not stable either.

>>105900157
There's this almost "life force" aspect to business that comes down to wanting to understand the technical product and being able to sell it. Most people don't have either of these and very few have both.

>>105899960
I love how animals demand attention like that.

good fucking morning (1PM) /twg/
another monday with the thoughts of "just a couple of years more and I'll be able to scoot off passive income for the rest of my life unless nukes hit"

>>105896333
>sex with this creature
You mean this dumpster diving flying vermin that's everywhere in Australia? Fuck these things.

>>105901262
yes, actually. bin chickens are CUTE and theyre just like me fr fr :Japanese "Bargain" Badge:

>>105901367
I think you have a mental illness.

I'm a super experienced product engineer working at a semi successful already early stage startup. If anyone wants advice or whatever I'm game.

>>105901381
hell yeah brother

>>105899476
>federal gubberments worldwide are cutting costs
The gov handed openAI 500 billion godamn dollars just a few months ago

>>105900538
they need a papertrail for plausible deniability when they fire you. Expect to be put on pip

>>105901149
In this current market where your only chance to get at least to a technical interview is to AI slop spam the whole industry? Yeah, pretty much over.
10 years ago you could walk into any place, have a interview and in rare cases not even have to do a technical interview to get an offer, now you're lucky if you get past the AI filter those lazy bastards at HR setup.

>>105901691
>10 years ago you could walk into any place, have a interview and in rare cases not even have to do a technical interview to get an offer,
No you definitely had to do two rounds with at least one technical interview 10 years ago. It wasn't nearly as competitive but you couldn't "just walk in" (even metaphorically, you certainly couldn't physically walk in anywhere.)

>>105901733
You literally repeated what I said.
If 1 round = no technical
If 2 round = technical
That's what I meant by "have a interview" (case 1) and "in rare cases not even have to do a technical interview" (case 2).

And yes, you could do that, at least here in Switzerland, you would look any job offer, send an email, in 1-3 business days you would receive a reply to show up if your resume matches what they look for, the "just walk in" refers to that.
Do you have autism? Not meant as an insult, you seem to take everything quite literal.

>>105901816
>Do you have autism
Why does everyone keep asking me this? I don't think I have autism.

>>105901563
that makes NUMBER go UP though

>>105901816
>You literally
>you seem to take everything quite literal

>>105901691
>now you're lucky if you get past the AI filter those lazy bastards at HR setup
I'm so sorry anons... I work at the company that made those AI-scored assessments. It's all my fault...

>email protection system sent out a fake phishing email to the entire company to test people on their awareness
>My morning now consists of replying to 20+ people that yes, this email is spam please delete it.
Wonderful Monday morning

>>105901691
The only chance is to go find some non-white ancestry somewhere in your DNA and put that down on the application

>monday
AAAAAAA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>105902265
reminds me of this post I saw the other day: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/me7wFrkEtMbkzXGJt/race-and-gender-bias-as-an-example-of-unfaithful-chain-of
>When present, the bias is always against white and male candidates across all tested models and scenarios. This happens even if we remove all text related to diversity.
even the AI is hiring anybody over white males

>>105902279
nigga its tuesday

Dante forgot the eight plane of hell, reserved for bald boomer scrum masters.

>>105902288

Almost like we built an entire anti white male racist and sexist institutional order in the US over the past 40 years

>>105902265
Yeah I'm not putting effort into an application when you're literally telling me via every channel possible you're not interested in hiring me.
>>105902198
The bar for being a leader is so fucking low.

>nothing happens at work
>an hour before end of business everyone starts calling and messaging me with "urgent" shit that needs to be done asap
Fuck off

AI will intentionally give you the wrong answer if it doesnt know the answer because it prioritizes appearing useful to the end-user
Why do people trust and rely upon this thing?

>>105902504
The US East Coast is just waking up so that's probably the real reason.

I haven't done any work today. They think I'm working on caching issues so I don't need to do any work because nobody knows how caching works

>>105902512
to clarify
I have coworkers that will dick around with chatgpt for 3 hours not knowing how to get something done because the ai is confidently giving them made up answers and then they come to me saying "i cant get x y and z to work mind giving me a hand"
why are you trusting this thing??? Google is better than asking a bot that is perfectly fine with lying and making up answers.

Hey CS graduates in here who haven't been able to get a job for years... can you answer basic computer science questions or do you start stuttering and dropping your spaghetti?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_2Chk0UnoE

>>105902603

The expansion of utterly shit CS programs to every shit institution out there probably didn't help with the current glut

>>105902512
>>105902592

>>105902603
[spoiler] I struggled with this for a second. It all makes sense in my head but then I suddenly can't find the works trying to say it [/spoiler]

>>105902603
an array is a container that stores data, if they want me to go more in depth i probably won't survive at that job anyway

>>105902603
this took me a second
It all makes sense in my head but then when it comes to actually describing it out loud I can't find the words...

today feels bleak for some reason
i will listen to the smiths today

>>105902700
>an array is a container that stores data
Well thanks for coming in.

>>105902700
>an array is a container that stores data
Behold! An array!

>>105902779
>>105902806
if it's not a job where i can't coast, i don't want it

>>105902603
>>105902779
>>105902806
Why do NEETs come into this thread and pretend to be smart?

Do people even ask general CS questions anymore? All I got was meme trivia specific to the stack I was interviewing for nothing conceptual like that anymore.

>>105902823
You don't get to have the cushy jobs if you don't know answers to basic questions or have a reasonable level of competence

I coast at work work every day working almost exclusively with Javascript which doesn't even have true arrays, but I can still give a better answer to what an array is than you gave because it's a basic piece of CS knowledge. And I don't have a CS degree

You thinking being asked what an array is means "oh man... these guys have HIGH standards" is very revealing.

>>105902829
This is a picture of me coasting at work: >>105902580 cope and seethe

What do you do when you have an artist that can't use git and keeps fucking up the naming convention and puts his art in the wrong place in the file structure and won't listen to feedback?

How do I get a remote work job as entry level helpdesk? I have no certs (A+/Google) but have some experience doing IT for a small business for a few years (printers, basic troubleshooting/networking, making a KB).

Are there any good free courses (I have no money)? Should I just mass apply?

>>105899799
>>105899807
>Browsers that don't move elements around as I'm about to click during loading
This is still achievable by setting the height and width attributes of img tags. It's just most frontend people don't think to do it. Most of the intolerable stuff on the modern web can be fixed by using lighthouse and fixing what it says is broken.

>>105899095
That job for replaced by drones already. It just lifts up a long hose.

>>105901691
>10 years ago you could walk into any place, have a interview and in rare cases not even have to do a technical interview to get an offer
We used to be like that until we realized that it takes a minimum of 3 rounds of interviews to weed out the fakers, scammers, potential axe murderers, etc. Those types don't have the stamina to mask their true nature for that long.

>>105902964
Fire him. Following instructions is a basic requisite for any job.

>>105903075
I don't have authority on him. Best I can do is whine to my boss.

I no longer fear losing my job like I used to. I used to go in to work worried about deadlines, fearful of any call from my boss, worried that I might screw up and get fired.

I don't fear that. I don't feel that it's likely anymore. Fear has been replaced with contempt. I do not have empathy for my coworkers. If one of them were to get sick or injured, I'd have sympathy for them, but on a day to day basis I no longer see them as human beings. They are robots with different characteristics which I believe can be programmed. My project manager has a huge ego; my junior dev is hungry for promotion and status; my boss recently had a child and is desperate for interaction with anyone other than his family. Every time I talk with one of these people, I put on a different mask. I pretend to care about what they care about, I pretend like I can help them, or that I want to see them or the company succeed. I do not. My only goal is to collect a paycheck for as little interaction with these things as is possible. Each one is a server that I ssh into with different public keys. I manage their state via a set of well known scripts and commands, and I sign out. I no longer even turn my camera on during meetings. They have a physical image of me in their heads which is based on years-old pictures. I could shave my head or lose an eye or get gang tattoos on my face and they would never know. I spend my day talking with machines about how best to talk with machines

Read about the research being done at OpenAI on Saturday and it ruined my weekend.
GPT 2 => 3.5 was exponential progress but everything since has been diminishing returns. I was hoping this was how LLMs were going to stay but there's a chance this is just the flat part of an S curve and it's about to have really fast progress again

I'm decidedly unemployable can I also be in this thread?

>>105903186
i'm sorry anon, but you can't

>>105903177
AGI 2027, trust the plan

>meeting magically gets randomly extended by rambling to bridge into the next scheduled meeting
is this a psyop?

Can someone in business help me understand how firing 1 competent employee in america and replacing him with 10 retards in south asia will save money? sure you saved money now. But you need someone to tell the retards what EXACTLY needs to be done because otherwise nothing will happen. It's like firing a mechanic and replacing him with 10 monkeys and a manager that has to tell the monkeys exactly what every screw to turn. Where previously the mechanic was competent and could do everything.

>>105903284
>fire expensive human
>hire cheap subhumans
>line go up
that is all you need to know

>>105903284

MBAs and business suits have a hard time understanding that software isn't like factory or farm work and "adding hands" doesn't magically make things work better. SWE team culture is a very delicate thing. "High productivity phases" where people are heads down hammering out code occasionally happen but they're the result of weeks of design and deliberation where you need a lot of high IQs in the room fleshing it out. Otherwise you end up with unmaintainable, dysfunctional spaghetti monstrosities (my current codebase).

>>105903177
>GPT 2 => 3.5 was exponential progress but everything since has been diminishing returns. I was hoping this was how LLMs were going to stay but there's a chance this is just the flat part of an S curve and it's about to have really fast progress again
Or it's peaked and what we have now is pretty much what we're going to have going forward. Why would it go exponential again for no reason? All possible sources of training data are now polluted with slop pumped out by older and current models, you try to train on that and you'll get model collapse. AI is still a novelty, people have yet to find an actual use for it which isn't generating porn, generating memes, or replacing low-level customer service people with a dogshit chatbot.

I've been saying this for 2 years but the hypebros and doomposters pull out some retarded analogy and say that because cameras sucked in the beginning and got better, that means AI will get better. Thinking that anything will just get better on its own is a statement of pure faith.

>>105903284
Companies are not about saving or making money, they are about manipulating the psychology of your shareholders so they give you more money. Doing illogical things that *feel* like cost-cutting is how you pump your stock up. CEOs are parasites who exist to extract wealth from hundreds or thousands of human beings and redistribute it to other reptilians

>>105903284
And I'm saying south asia, because it doesn't matter india, pakistan, or bangladesh. They're equally retarded

AGI IS COOMINGGG. HERE IT COOOMSS. 2 MORE WEEKS AND IT WILL COOOOM.

What will the world be like post ai bubble?

I'm so glad I haven't had to do much interviewing since GenAI became a mainstream thing.

Worst I had to deal with back then was Indians pretending to live in America cooking up the most nonsensical CVs, but at least they were doing it semi manually. It was actually fairly common back then to see them copy not from other CVs, but from other job specs - you'd see shit like people claiming they had "3-5 years experience in Azure or other relevant technologies".

For the ones that slipped through there was none of this feeding the audio stream into an AI and reading the response, either - you'd just get exchanges like:
"You've got down SQL DBA experience - can you elaborate on that? Tell us about a project you've used that on."
"Yes absolutely, thanks you, I have HTML, CSS, JavaScript, "- and the rest of their entire CV read out aloud.

>>105903123
Thank you Anon, very cool

posting it here coz I got no reactions from utwg.
WTH Why is it taking so long? I was supposed to join today! now I have to wait another week to join. And that too after I moved to a different city for this. I hope they increase my relocation bonus. :(
update: it came through this morning as soon as I woke up. but I still have to wait until next monday to join

>>105903458
Maybe GPU prices will go back down. Can we have a tech fad that doesn't completely fuck over gamers - the most oppressed class

>>105903533
this is the best time you'll have, no need to worry about unemployment and no need to worry about onboarding, enjoy it retard

>>105903477
Now in remote interviews the indians use camera filters to pretend to be white.

>>105903565
I have been unemployed for 7 months already. I can't wait to not feel like an impotent loser again

>>105903566
why don't they use a live2d of an aryan man

>>105903585
just chill out and enjoy it while it lasts, anon, unless something terrible happens you're already employed without having to work

>>105903603
okay... if you say so...
*sniffs*

>>105903585
Don't worry. You'll be an impotent loser even as an employee.

>>105890552 (OP)
Why are they having a meeting about your reaction to being informed of your HR violations? Are they reviewing their internal processes and policies to see if your reaction is indicative of an underlying issue they're not aware of or something?

>>105903533
background checks now include 4chan post history (from the leak)
sorry bro

Is it inappropriate to give birthday gifts to a coworker? I gifted some small things to someone I really like, never did this for anyone else at work. She sent me a message thanking me for them and said she liked what I got her though.

>>105903586
Good morning sir I am here to redeem the position of software developer sir

>>105903742
all I post here is cute cats and some BBC posting on /int/

>>105903745
Do you like her more than your job?
You have a decent chance of keeping both but you should think about which you really prefer to pursue.

>>105903745
No

>>105903552
Why are they so expensive? If you rent a 3090 it costs like $60 a month if you use one of those p2p services. So it would take *two years* to break even on buying one.

>>105903824
>3090 it costs like $60 a month
$250-$300 a month*
>it would take *two years* to break even
2 months*
they're $600 used

>>105903795
well then HR is busy inspecting cats and BBC

>>105903824
When you're a data centre buying 3000 GPUs nvidia probably gives you a discount.

>>105903745
consult the diagram

>>105903837
Huh you're right. I think I was looking at a 3060 or whatever. I'm not a gamer and just want some place to put my pytorch projects. These numbers never seem to coralate with any of the specs.

>>105903854
The problem is that it depends on *how she sees you* so you have to be able to read her mind to know which outcome you'll experience.

>>105903854
Guess I'm in the clear considering how she reacted to my gifts.

>>105903883
>pytorch projects
what pytorch projects can you even have when you don't have a gpu and don't know the rental prices
>These numbers never seem to coralate with any of the specs
what? higher specs = costs more, it's pretty simple

>>105903896
fakecel...

>>105903745
i would say it's inappropriate as an adult in general. i feel like it's somewhat rare to give gifts to anyone but a significant other or truly Bestest Friendo (unless you randomly found something just plain perfect that you HAD to share)

>>105903947
Nigga what? You don't have friends you like? Is it a money issue thing? I genuinely don't get it.

>>105903745
will she gift you when it's birthday?
will she even remember you birthday?
if not, just say "happy birthday" to her and move on

>>105899644
>we have the
No we don't, aijeet marketer. We have hallucinating chatbots that will tell you the sky is purple and water is made of AIDS and only "correct" themselves (with another wrong answer) if you tell them that's not right.

do you guy iron out your shirts? I hate ironing I wish there was a quick non-expensive way to iron your work shirts

they're going to try to get me to do the thing everyone is dreading to do (again)
just gonna say no and see what happens :)

>>105903745
>>105903896
Marry her

>>105904026
I dont work. problem solved

>>105903745
Ask her out.

>4 hours of meetings tomorrow
i'm not gonna make it, bros

>>105903960
idk, in my friend circles it was more normal to throw a party but then everyone buys you (the Birthday Man) drinks. less gift box presents, more "i will buy you twelve beers and treat you to korean bbq"

i think its just more that people, however intimate they are, don't really know what you want/need in terms of stuff and just defer to the easier option of drugs, alcohol, meat, and other immediate consumables

Its MONDAY!
>How many story points do you think this is worth before I assign it to you.
100.
>Oh... I guess you'll be busy with that for awhile.
Yes.
I FOUND THE SECRET TO BEING LEFT ALONE!

>>105904026
I find ironing relaxing. It doesn't mean I bother doing it often, but the few times a year I do it's a nice time.

>>105904026
get a steamer

>>105904399
NOOOO! 100 isn't a fibonacci sequence number!
It's too biiiig! We need to take this back to refinement and break it down!

I have nothing but contempt for anyone with "agile" in their job title

>>105903394
2 more yeara actually, in 2027, but it IS coming no matter how much luddites dislike the thought

Elon will land on Mars before we get AGI

>>105904026
>working somewhere that requires dress shirts and slacks
Holy shit you guys really do work at web dev sweatshops huh? Thought it was just a meme

>>105904740
"AGI" is already here. It's been here for a while. People WAY overestimate the intelligence of the general population.

The gap between AGI and the value you get from someone close to you attending your problems is an intrinsic feature of an actual human who's familiar with you giving you attention not some incompleteness in an algorithm or dataset.

The same people who don't understand this also don't understand why Indians can't build good software because the problem there is actually the same.

>>105904867
I like dress shirts. I even wear them on the weekend. My last girlfriend used to wear pajama bottoms and t-shirts in public and it was always really embarrassing.

>>105900872
>grinding leetcode for a bit
>doubling your salary
>getting better wlb
This is the thing I'll never understand about people who turn their nose up at leetcode. Most LC patterns are very intuitive. The only ones I had to spend substantial time practicing were backtracking, DP, bit manipulation, and a few of the harder graph problems. If you have a CS degree, you're probably more than capable of understanding most other medium-level questions with a little prep. I don't understand why you wouldn't grind this for a little to make mid six figures at an office with massage chairs, free food, and coworkers who don't hate you. Is it a cope for being too lazy or stupid?

>>105904907
>t-shirts and pajamas are embarssing
>dress shirts no the weekend are not
its ok to be autistic anon but pretending like everyone else is weird is what's gonna alienate you in the end

another day of getting micromanaged by an indian staff engineer because he decided to make your issue his pet project even though we have at least 3 weeks to deliver it and it just requires some end to end testing
do these staff engineers even do anything all ive ever seen them do is endlessly bikeshed and micromanage juniors and mid levels over their team leads

>>105904934

At my company (80% jeeted) they are the only engineers of value, but they're relegated to these supervisory, support roles where they review code and monitor things all day rather than actively participating in design and engineering.

Which, of course, is retarded, because if they were a part of the design and planning the code would be better by the time it got to final review and merging. It's actually impressive how dysfunctional and stupid my company is. My first was a mom and pop SaaS with a shit CRUD app and it was still a more efficient operation than this billion dollar piece of shit pharmacy software.

>>105904965
imagine not extracting every last cent from a business venture before dumping its rotted corpse in the trashbin.

youre just not ruthless enough for the industry. if youre not cramming four jeets to a desk, you are *not* going to make it.

>>105904965
i mean i know theyre good, usually, at least the ones that actually live here
but ive also seen them just shit the bed multiple times, ask bizarre questions during design reviews, or take like 3 or 4 explanations to understand a certain aspect of how our system works
for a staff engineer id also expect them to push back on the bullshit higher ups give us to do but the ones i interact seem to actually be on their side and dont take no for an answer when we try to explain how something is an insane amount of work or plainly useless AND a waste of time to implement

>>105905010
How are you supposed to exit that strategy though? Eventually you have to sell the business to someone else and if it has no future value to discount the present price is zero or possibly even negative.

>>105905082
you exit by finding a sucker to dump on

eventually you run out of suckers - either because every single business is a corpse, or there is nobody left with any money

we are left with a handful of trillionaires and their depth grovelling slaves. its beautiful. its organic. its india.

>>105905082
>How are you supposed to exit that strategy though?
He just explained it to you, you gut the business for everything of slightest worth and then sell the husk to VC retards

>>105899915
>Debian UI
The terminal?

Good night twg, sleep well with all kpis in green and git issues closed with nice pipeline.

Finally got a job interview, first one in months. It’s a remote position with a White guy too, thank the fucking lord. I’m going to go pray and study up on parts of the job description I’m a little weak on but feels good to finally have a little glimmer of hope.

emergency jewish advice needed!

guys, this is the situation:
- J1 has put forward an offer
- J2 still has a few interviews left but looking positive. may be a better offer than J1
- J1 wants to hear back before J2 can offer

is it ok if i do the following:
- accept J1
- finish interviews in J2
- to J2, i pretend like I'm still "choosing" between J1 and J2
- if J2 offer is better, i straight up dump J1 a week after joining and go with J2

can i jew the employers like this? will they invoke talmudic magick to curse me down the line?

>>105905501
Delay your start at J1 as long as possible. Take as much time as they allow to sign the offer, and ask for a late start date that should be after J2's process finishes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with signing an offer and then taking another before you start, provided it's at will employment. And there's also nothing wrong with starting one job and then leaving for another within a week or two - I've met plenty of people laid off within a few weeks of starting for financial reasons, so you shouldn't feel guilty about jumping ship to another job within a few weeks of starting for your own reasons.

>>105905501
Yes, do what you’re planning. Americans have NO job protection and the only upside to that is being able to do what you’re thinking. The downside is “you can’t use them as a reference”, who fucking cares?

>>105905501
just transfer the sin to a bank note and give it away, problem solved

>>105905501
absolutely, especially if they are trying to pressure you to accept a subpar offer (theirs). "At will" cuts both ways. You can just stop going to J1 one day or if you want to be a professional you can tell them J2 offered much more, match it, otherwise unfortunately you can't stay

>>105905588
>>105905673
thanks bros

the christian in me doesn't wanna do this but i have to keep reminding myself they would rape me with a rusty bat if it bumped quarterly earnings even 1 pixel a graph

i guess its cos the recrooooter has a human (?) face i feel bad...

>>105905581
>Delay your start at J1 as long as possible. Take as much time as they allow
the guy is saying, "well just keep in mind we really need an answer sooner than later cos we have other candidates", so idk how much i can push back. i just dont want to end up with nothing, thats the worry. try to chase two cats and they both run away.

>>105905592
damn so they do it to the chickens just for fun...

>>105905501
Reddit is thataway, boss

>>105905673
as a yuro i wish i had at will
if you wanna quit here you have to go through a 3 month humiliation ritual

>>105905816
probation period cuts both ways

>>105905825
i WISH i could get fired tomorrow and never have to hear from it again

>>105906007
You can, but you have to do something extra for it
Based on my past colleague, punching the CTO at the Christmas party works

>>105906028
im always shocked to hear rowdy company parties, especially in this day and age. i admit i'm a total basedcuck, but still... feels kind of crazy to attack coworkers in a drunken rage. or do i need to get my T levels checked?

>>105906028
simply have sex with creatures

what should the ratio of paying attention to the meeting : raising umas on your phone be

>>105906105
0% to the meeting and 100% horse pussy

>>105906105
>umas
real niggas just browse the secret motherless section

>>105906105
Why is the horse gacha so popular

>>105905692
sometimes a chicken is necessary, it depends on the severity of the sin

>>105906448
i like stupid number raising games and cute anime girls, simple as

>>105904026
Dry-fit shirts (that breathable crap) never needs any ironing. Couple it with jeans and you are good to go.

checking in, what's the minimum salary required to post here? thx

>>105904907
>pajama bottoms and t-shirts
A turn on for me

Third thread in a row I have to start
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