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Anonymous No.105893011
/iemg/ & /pmpg/ - In-Ear Monitor & Portable Music Player General
How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archieve, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
β€’ Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
β€’ Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
β€’ Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
β€’ Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
β€’ Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
β€’ Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
β€’ Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
β€’ Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
β€’ JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
β€’ JCally JM20 Pro (8-Band PEQ) - $24
β€’ Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
β€’ Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
β€’ HiBy R1 - $85
β€’ HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
β€’ Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>105876675
Anonymous No.105893064 >>105893091
why not put kbear kb01 instead of cadenza
Anonymous No.105893091
>>105893064
cadenza is more widely distributed and the better known quantity. if anything can just put both tho
Anonymous No.105893437
you can see that the techs are not good on this one
Anonymous No.105893585 >>105893645 >>105893672 >>105893719 >>105894377 >>105894605 >>105894625 >>105894628
She's here
Anonymous No.105893645
>>105893585
Do you mind waiting until tomorrow before posting more? We don't work on weekends...
Anonymous No.105893672
>>105893585
Why did you buy that pos...
Anonymous No.105893703 >>105893726
>>105892944
>if by techs you mean FR then yes
dipshit
Anonymous No.105893719
>>105893585
>needs to strip completely to sell xer pos
Anonymous No.105893726
>>105893703
Square wave is just FR at a dozen of points. And if it actually resembles a square it means there's just one driver(abysmal techs).
Anonymous No.105893813
What a proper techy square wave looks like. Mathematically proven.
Anonymous No.105893858
>look at that square wave showing the same thing as FR but in a linear scale. checkmate deafzos!
Anonymous No.105894069
techs are stored in the balls
Anonymous No.105894102 >>105894153 >>105894890 >>105900703
>Azla new ultra low cost iem, the Trinity featuring Azla's ARD driver and aluminum housing, price is 2200 yen or 15$
bulletzos we are so back
Anonymous No.105894152 >>105894166 >>105894435
>DITA Prelude $160 1DD jap-fi techs
>full metal pos
eww
Anonymous No.105894153
>>105894102
what's this? a pos for little school girls?
Anonymous No.105894166
>>105894152
sucks ass
Anonymous No.105894377
>>105893585
Is the warped effect supposed to signify insane soundstage?
Anonymous No.105894435
>>105894152
they are so behind...
Anonymous No.105894605 >>105894967
>>105893585
why is she naked?
Anonymous No.105894625
>>105893585
holy fuck didn't know asano was that stacked, fat ass mommy milkers on that transqueen
Anonymous No.105894628
>>105893585
Literally who
Anonymous No.105894714 >>105894727 >>105894735
I'm gonna start a pos company and put half naked irl bitches on the boxes. tuning wont be v-shaped for vaginas, but v-shaped. a mound on the right for the right tit, the dip in the middle because no tit there and the right hump for the treble. will call it JPAL-1 for japan phat ass ladies. or something.
Anonymous No.105894727
>>105894714
b-shaped.*
Anonymous No.105894735 >>105894839
>>105894714
pre-order link where?
Anonymous No.105894742 >>105894768 >>105894773 >>105894778 >>105894826
>280 dollars for a 2DD hybrid
Our QVEEN would sell it for under 100.
Anonymous No.105894768
>>105894742
Nigga you have like 4 sub-100 2DDs already.
Anonymous No.105894773
>>105894742
stfu bunny whore!
Anonymous No.105894778
>>105894742
bring back the hola you retarded cunt
Anonymous No.105894826
>>105894742
truthear has no feet techs
Anonymous No.105894839 >>105895226
>>105894735
have you completed the sacred burn-in rituals?
Anonymous No.105894890
>>105894102
>hi-quality dynamic driver
heh
Anonymous No.105894967
>>105894605
she was FORCEd to
Anonymous No.105895226 >>105895693 >>105895828
>>105894839
yes, also burned in your mother with my dick
Anonymous No.105895693
>>105895226
gotem
Anonymous No.105895828
>>105895226
we take fr seriously here. you gotta lock yourself in a room with no windows or lights for 72 hours straight playing pink noise at exactly 72.8dB.
then you gotta recite crinacle's top 10 list backwards while holding an ea500lm in one hand and zsn pro x graph in the other.
finally, you must sacrifice your foam tips to the altar of soundstage.
no exceptions
Anonymous No.105896186 >>105896340
What's the best TWS earhook available right now?
Anonymous No.105896340 >>105896347
>>105896186
Anonymous No.105896347 >>105896376
>>105896340
My cats can't grab the wires inside the earhooks when they sit on my lap, they can grab the wires leading to my IEMs.
Anonymous No.105896376
>>105896347
UTWS5 2025 is your only option
Anonymous No.105896772 >>105896789 >>105896833 >>105896858
TimeEar Blossoms should replace G10 as the new 35$ rec and im not even joking
Anonymous No.105896789 >>105896800
>>105896772
The entire point of g10 is that it's comfortable as fuck. This is ass.
Anonymous No.105896800
>>105896789
Shill.
Anonymous No.105896814
They are right, Q1P is better than EDC Pro which is better than Origin.
Bunny? To be determined.
Anonymous No.105896823 >>105896845
>retard 1 shows a single unit with a slight imbalance
>retard 2 goes full ape and removes it from OP
why is this general like that
Anonymous No.105896824
summoning russia haterzo
Anonymous No.105896833 >>105896867 >>105896953
>>105896772
0 squigs to be seen so it's not a safe pick compared to G10. If schizos here are going to try to shit on G10/Q1 Pro, at least pull up an iem that's more appealing.
Anonymous No.105896845 >>105896871 >>105896876 >>105896878
>>105896823
>small imbalance
I shiggy diggy
Anonymous No.105896858
>>105896772
I'm not against an IEM with Q1pro tier shell and better tuning but this ain't it
Anonymous No.105896867 >>105896978
>>105896833
>no one buys new iems cause no one graphed them
>no graphs cause no one bought them
Sound logic working in favor of the shills here
Anonymous No.105896871
>>105896845
it is a small imbalance tho
Anonymous No.105896876
>>105896845
>within QC tolerance bands
wow...
Anonymous No.105896878 >>105896888
>>105896845
Way better than origin.
Anonymous No.105896888 >>105896900
>>105896878
Bro having a melty with tanchjim all the time lol
Anonymous No.105896900 >>105896913
>>105896888
Why did you buy that imbalanced pos, bro.
Anonymous No.105896913
>>105896900
Asano loves you, yet your self hatred wont let you see how wide and immersive her love is
Anonymous No.105896916 >>105896945 >>105896983
>people extolling Q1pro comfort
Really? Seems pretty average to me. Also look what I did to my gate cables, super spammer isn't going to like this one.
Anonymous No.105896927 >>105896940 >>105896983
I think it's time to admit that ALL chink IEM makers have shit QC and it's basically random if you get a unit with good channel matching or not.
And you will never know if you don't have a measuring device because all of you dumb fucks are fucking deaf.
Discussing this beyond that is silly.
Anonymous No.105896940 >>105896957
>>105896927
Nah tanchjim would win the QC game
Anonymous No.105896945
>>105896916
everybody's ears are different. Some people like how edc pro fits. I can't even make them stay properly inside my ears lol
Anonymous No.105896953 >>105896983
>>105896833
Replace g10 with g20.
Anonymous No.105896957 >>105896983
>>105896940
we simply do not have data to confirm or deny that
even if we take ALL of squigs... it's still not enough data points
Anonymous No.105896963 >>105896970 >>105896983 >>105896987 >>105896998
I have a Variations but I'm afraid it's wasted on me because I skipped over everything between $15 and $500 so I don't have much of a point of reference
Anonymous No.105896970
>>105896963
Variations were obsoleted by fox iem, sorry.
Anonymous No.105896978
>>105896867
If this is how the hobby worked then there wouldn't be the hype culture we have for new iems. There exists no squigs for Blossoms because nobody cares. Simple as
Anonymous No.105896983 >>105897055
>>105896916
At worst, it's average in terms of comfort.
At best, it's as good as it gets.
>>105896927
It's the opposite, most have decent to great channel matching (QC not so much). Unit variation take is based and the rest is true except that since most are deaf they will not notice <1db imbalance.
>>105896953
No.
>>105896957
Good take, and I would argue that most data points are bad.
>>105896963
You need to either have a good speaker setup, music production experience, or read the EQ guide.
Anonymous No.105896987
>>105896963
>I have a Variations
My condolences bro
Anonymous No.105896998
>>105896963
moon...DROPPED!
Anonymous No.105897002 >>105897008
If you have no rig you have imbalance. If you have a rig but can't EQ per channel you still have imbalance. Until proven otherwise.
Anonymous No.105897008
>>105897002
Who named you the sheriff?
Anonymous No.105897015 >>105897071
fun fact: your ear anatomy is probably asymmetrical, and so you will have a difference in length mode frequency, but also amplitude across the whole range
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/monthly-issues/may-2025/#insertion-depth-change-explanation
Anonymous No.105897019 >>105897066 >>105897078
>the dude with his 30$ set feeling like he is hot shit for using an equalizer
My sides
Anonymous No.105897036
So is there even one good technical explanation why EQ isn't the most efficient, accessible, and powerful tool to change how something sounds?
Anonymous No.105897055
>>105896983
>Good take, and I would argue that most data points are bad.
711 couplers are fine for channel matching data. We don't need to compare actual FR. Just channel matching measured with the same coupler.
It is much easier but yeah there's no real control or methodology with a lot of them but it'll just lower the number of data points available. (some of them are measurements of the same IEM reviewers are sending to each other lol)
Anonymous No.105897066
>>105897019
>he thinks there are IEMs that don't need EQ
Anonymous No.105897071 >>105897076
>>105897015
I don't really hear peak imbalance on any of my IEMs.
Anonymous No.105897076 >>105897109
>>105897071
>I don't really hear
Many such cases.
Anonymous No.105897078 >>105899981
>>105897019
you are in a wrong thread to push dumb bullshit like that
this whole hobby emerged because $30 IEMs became as good as $300+ shit
Anonymous No.105897096
>anons that post pics and measurements are mega chill
>retards that don't post anything shitting up the thread with senseless debating in at the schizo round table
why???
Anonymous No.105897109 >>105897124
>>105897076
are you stupid? I CAN hear it by changing insertion depth lol My peak is super fucking loud and it's unmistakable when tone is playing in the middle or to the one side or the other...
Anonymous No.105897124
>>105897109
>I CAN hear
X
Anonymous No.105897128 >>105897143 >>105897152 >>105897181 >>105897227 >>105897560 >>105897791 >>105898129
Force graphs. No real opinions on sound yet, they seem alright but I'm not immediately noticing the claims of huge soundstage. I don't know what the point of the Effect Audio collab was, the cable is nothing special apart from Tanchjim's modular plug system which is the best out there.
RE: Channel matching, I'll let the shitposters decide on the final verdict. I can hear it but I can't quite decide if it bothers me just yet.
Anonymous No.105897143 >>105897180
>>105897128
Channel matching is above average, really good by my books.
>but I'm not immediately noticing the claims of huge soundstage
Any extraordinary claim of soundstage is false, and if you learn how localization works in both production and reproduction of music then you will know how to perceive it and communicate your experience better.
Anonymous No.105897152 >>105897180
>>105897128
How's the subbass distortion. Truthear zero had a rolloff like that and it sucked.
Anonymous No.105897180
>>105897143
>Any extraordinary claim of soundstage is false, and if you learn how localization works in both production and reproduction of music then you will know how to perceive it and communicate your experience better.
Soundstage for pos is just your brain playing tricks on you, and these pos don't trick my brain the same way pos with less isolation does. Other people might not have the same experience.
>>105897152
I don't listen loud enough for that to remotely matter.
Anonymous No.105897181 >>105897323
>>105897128
how thick is it compared to origin and kara
Anonymous No.105897227
>>105897128
>I'm not immediately noticing the claims of huge soundstage
Russian propaganda.
Anonymous No.105897261 >>105897272 >>105897321
it's called psychoacoustics you swine
Anonymous No.105897272
>>105897261
It's called stop buying used IEMs, pagpag.
Anonymous No.105897321 >>105897361
>>105897261
you literally don't know anything about psychoacoustics
Anonymous No.105897323 >>105897365 >>105897536
>>105897181
Way bigger but I like the comfort more.
I actually got a postcard for the first time ever, it's nice.
Anonymous No.105897361 >>105897377
>>105897321
>it's called a hamburger
>you don't know shit about hamburgers

that's you. that's what you sound like. fuck you
Anonymous No.105897365
>>105897323
wtf it's fucking HUUGE
Anonymous No.105897377 >>105897388
>>105897361
this is amusing because
>psychoacustics = hamburger
is the level of your understanding of the matter
Anonymous No.105897388 >>105897399 >>105897532
>>105897377
it's called an analogy you lil skamp
Anonymous No.105897399 >>105897436
>>105897388
Anonymous No.105897436
>>105897399
what the fuck else would I goon to? people?
Anonymous No.105897532 >>105897804
>>105897388
it's a dogshit analogy because you open you mouth about psychoacoustic without any understanding about what the fuck you are saying and why
Anonymous No.105897536
>>105897323
never been so over, that is massive for a tanchjim pos
does anyone know if they are releasing any other completely new iem (so no lost manor)? if not then i'm redeeming the fission next
also
tribute when?
Anonymous No.105897547 >>105897563
psychoacoustic don't really say anything about why one IEM would have a better soundstage over the other in the first place because it's all very vague individualistic and hard to research
Anonymous No.105897560 >>105897658
>>105897128
paying $200 for 2DD to get a weirdo subbass roll off and 1DD tier treble? yeeeeeah I don't think so
Anonymous No.105897563 >>105897581
>>105897547
>it's all very vague individualistic and hard to research
Not really if you are up to date with current research on localization. In the grand scheme of things we are decently close to audio personalization for external localization.
Anonymous No.105897581 >>105897605 >>105897844
>>105897563
>Not really if you are up to date with current research on localization
research on localization is irrelevant to IEMs... feel free to link the research tho
>In the grand scheme of things we are decently close to audio personalization for external localization
well fucking show me a soundstage on the graph then
Anonymous No.105897605 >>105897675
>>105897581
Oh I wasn't talking about passive IEMs, I was just discussing about the topic in general.
I think the closest we'll get to the optimization of soundstage is with isolation/openness and FR.
Most of the research nowadays is based on VR anyways.
Anonymous No.105897658 >>105897785
>>105897560
DDs are the best at treble, sounds good to me.
Anonymous No.105897675
>>105897605
why the fuck are you talking about irrelevant shit then?
The fact of the matter is some people hear what they would describe as a "soundstage" with some IEMs but not the others and nobody really knows why.
There are some assumptions but IEMs just do not have ANY of localization queues our brains use.
Anonymous No.105897677 >>105897776 >>105897784
There are two classes in /iemg/.
Subhuman genetic freaks, and Superior Pioneers of Sonics with perfect HRTF matching with 1DD IEMs.
Which one are you?
Anonymous No.105897776 >>105907689
>>105897677
Both.
Anonymous No.105897784
>>105897677
>There are two classes in /iemg/.
nope, just one: man-children who blow way too much money up chink's asses
Anonymous No.105897785 >>105897794 >>105897822
>>105897658
asking almost $300 for basically $30 tuning is insane
>DDs are the best at treble, sounds good to me.
do you not hear 14k peak?
Anonymous No.105897791
>>105897128
>I'm not immediately noticing the claims of huge soundstage
channels are too closely matched for a good soundstage
Anonymous No.105897794
>>105897785
I get peaks all over the place with every driver type, pretending like DDs are the only drivers that have peaks is retarded.
Anonymous No.105897797
as per usual, the real lessons is to read the eq guide
Anonymous No.105897804 >>105897849
>>105897532
you keep saying I don't know shit about it so confidently. again, fuck you.
Anonymous No.105897813 >>105897823 >>105897863
entry level IEMs?
i don't want to bring my big boy cans to work. but i don't actually know if i'd like IEMs. if they suck i don't want to be out hundreds of dollars, but if they suck just because i got cheap ones i'm missing out. where's the sweet spot? what would you recommend if your friend asked you? (i am your friend)
Anonymous No.105897822
>>105897785
>asking almost $300 for basically $30 tuning is insane
You don't get it, you pay $300 for atrocious shells.
Anonymous No.105897823 >>105897833
>>105897813
read the eq guide, realize that price doesn't matter, that every iem will work, that you're using them at work so get some airpods pro 2
Anonymous No.105897833 >>105897842 >>105897851 >>105897876
>>105897823
>airpods pro 2
i don't use apple. i don't want my electronics to be made by slaves.
Anonymous No.105897842
>>105897833
then get whatever is in the op, or buy some other anc tws
Anonymous No.105897844 >>105897879
>>105897581
you can't graph it, but I'm sure diagrams could be drawn to illustrate how you perceive where different sounds "placed" in your head. 99.999% of all reviews mention soundstage. you're a dolt
Anonymous No.105897849 >>105897915
>>105897804
because it's obvious that you don't
don't ever say "psychoacoustics" ever again if you don't have anything substantial to add, kid
uuh achtually it's psychoacoustics
no actually you are retarded
Anonymous No.105897851
>>105897833
>i don't want my electronics to be made by slaves.
Who do you think makes IEMs sold for $3 with global shipping and somehow still making profit.
Anonymous No.105897863
>>105897813
waner 2 or bunny dsp
Anonymous No.105897876 >>105897887
>>105897833
Tanchjim Bunny by our Queen Asano.
Approved by /iemg/ and everyone, small, comfy, available on Amazon, and so cute it'll make all the office ladies fawn over you (based on real testimonies).
Anonymous No.105897879 >>105897924
>>105897844
>you can't graph it
proof?
>I'm sure diagrams could be drawn to illustrate how you perceive where different sounds "placed" in your head
yeah that's not what I'm asking and is irrelevant.
>99.999% of all reviews mention soundstage
ok? who asked?
Anonymous No.105897887 >>105897909
>>105897876
>and so cute it'll make all the office ladies fawn over you (based on real testimonies).
that's a straight up lie
Anonymous No.105897909
>>105897887
Like you'd know anything about pulling in hot hags at work!
Anonymous No.105897915 >>105898001
>>105897849
because you have a hard-on for these convos that you anticipate sperging over every line and logic because you're coping. I think there's a pill for that
Anonymous No.105897924 >>105898019
>>105897879
this isn't a religion discussion. you don't have to be this emotionally involved in chinese plastic piece of monkey shit earbuds.
Anonymous No.105897952 >>105897966 >>105898057
I think we can all agree that greasy pre-clogged secondhand ea500lm have no soundstage. Don't eat with IEMs on, fatso.
Anonymous No.105897966 >>105898057
>>105897952
pagpagnastyea500lmtrvthnvke.jpg
Anonymous No.105898001 >>105898057 >>105898143
>>105897915
you know that conversation would be over already if you actually were able to demonstrate your understanding of psychoacoustics? which you can't do lol
and only thing is left for you is to seethe for being called out
Anonymous No.105898019 >>105898143
>>105897924
>proof?
>d-don't need to get emotional
ask me how I know you are retarded
Anonymous No.105898057 >>105898106 >>105898143
>>105897952
>>105897966
>>105898001
you're samefagging because you know nobody here will save you. I don't have have to demonstrate anything to you. before even engaging in the topic, you went straight to dismissing my understanding of it. I'm not here to cater to your neurotic fuckin tendencies to always be right and have that validation on the goddamn internet. we've been here a million times already. also, you can't eq techs.
Anonymous No.105898072 >>105898124 >>105898143
>posts idiotic facebook level theories
>gets called out
>goes schizo
you got me, i'm literally all of the posters in this thread
Anonymous No.105898093 >>105898124 >>105898143
hilarious
he's so fucking mad
Anonymous No.105898106 >>105898124 >>105898143
>>105898057
>you can't eq techs.
can't eq something that is not real
Anonymous No.105898118 >>105898123 >>105898143
Tourist here do you guys still use PMPs like the 400$ Sony and shit. Or its a waste and its better to get a Hiby?
Anonymous No.105898123 >>105898143 >>105898157
>>105898118
>Or its a waste and its better to get a Hiby
this
Anonymous No.105898124 >>105898143 >>105898146
>>105898072
>>105898093
>>105898106
it's all you. alone lol. almost sad, really
Anonymous No.105898129
>>105897128
Not enough bass but otherwise pretty good.
Anonymous No.105898143 >>105898146 >>105898181
>>105898001
>>105898019
>>105898057
>>105898072
>>105898093
>>105898106
>>105898118
>>105898123
>>105898124
this is all editorzo btw, he's fabricating fake content
Anonymous No.105898146
>>105898124
>>105898143
bro you are unironically schizoing out
chill
Anonymous No.105898154
Techs come temperature differential effects on filters, skin, and pos.
Anonymous No.105898157 >>105898203
>>105898123
Why the Hiby sounds the same as a 400$ sony?
Anonymous No.105898181 >>105898201
>>105898143
it TRULY is amazing how confident you are.
Anonymous No.105898200 >>105898247 >>105898289
thoughts on the MOONDROP Rays? Im consider picking them up to be my gaming IEMS
Anonymous No.105898201 >>105898226
>>105898181
>thinks he can trick anons by changing the source
actual crackhead schizo wtf
Anonymous No.105898203 >>105898935
>>105898157
...why wouldn't it?
Anonymous No.105898226
>>105898201
crack??? got any?????????????
Anonymous No.105898247
>>105898200
get the mays, same thing but less gaymery and without the retarded ugly inverted faceplate
Anonymous No.105898253 >>105898270 >>105898297
Remember to remove BUNNY from OP
Anonymous No.105898270
>>105898253
while we're at it, remove the eq guide
Anonymous No.105898289
>>105898200
I think moondrop dropped the souse and are out of it with their overpriced shit
Anonymous No.105898297 >>105898308
>>105898253
you'd need to remove everything from OP if you'll be basing it on random measurements with poor channel matching
Anonymous No.105898308 >>105898317
>>105898297
Q1 Pro did nothing wrong!
Anonymous No.105898317
>>105898308
I think if people bought q1s from EPZ and get poor channel matching they should contact EPZ and shit on them in the reviews they get very pissy about it.
And if they can't actually hear it then it doesn't matter.
Anonymous No.105898419 >>105898432
remember to laugh at vatnik ziggers getting blown to pieces by based zelenskyy's killer drones
Anonymous No.105898432 >>105898435
>>105898419
wrong thread, stranger
Anonymous No.105898435
>>105898432
i think this is the right thread i was told there was a butthurt russian furfag here was I wrong?
Anonymous No.105898505 >>105898530
fission sound so much better than hexas
Anonymous No.105898530 >>105898566
>>105898505
doubt
Anonymous No.105898566 >>105898570
>>105898530
i have both and fission sound better stock
Anonymous No.105898568 >>105898716
EQzo, you have REW's powerful ass AutoEQ to match it 1:1, and yet you failed. We need a better proof. This is half-baked.
Anonymous No.105898570
>>105898566
class 3 listener moment
Anonymous No.105898572 >>105898927 >>105906822
I am from the Draftdodginsky Oblast, I love doing meth and big dildos, tho i dont consider myself gay
Anonymous No.105898716 >>105900757 >>105904960
>>105898568
The main point of it is shown: FR and IR are linked. As described, this was done using REW's EQ matching, which is not precise enough, so I added manual EQ changes afterwards.
REW's EQ and arithmetic functions are not perfectly precise either, most noticeably at high frequencies.
If you are adamant that this needs fixing, I will do so when I can, but as it is the measurements show both the link and lack of use of IR as these differences can be attributed to differences in the FR.
Anonymous No.105898927
>>105898572
For AI slop, she's still pretty cute.
Anonymous No.105898935 >>105898988 >>105899096
>>105898203
cuz is cheaper and Sony is the finest crap
Anonymous No.105898988
>>105898935
audio performance in general does not correlate with price
Anonymous No.105899096
>>105898935
you don't want for PMP to color your sound in the first place
shit should sound transparent
Anonymous No.105899410 >>105900123 >>105900267
at what point does a source start showing diminishing returns for pos?
Anonymous No.105899981
>>105897078
You are a sad broke faggot, acquire Hype R
Anonymous No.105900123 >>105900419
>>105899410
there are only a handful of "flagship," DACs implemented in >70% of devices. AK4493/AK4499, CS43131/CS43198, ES9039/ES9069.
These are the newest gen of these companies' DACs, and they all have good performance metrics. it's up the specific manufacturer to implement it well, with good supporting architecture to manage clock, jitter, and interface with inputs smoothly (allow high pcm/dsd decoding, reliable usb, etc.)
there are excellent sources from $50-$300. not much more needs to be spent, and you get into inverse returns (higher THD and higher noise floor with tube amps, R2R, or other B.S.).
Anonymous No.105900267 >>105902095
>>105899410
Diminishing returns start at apple dongle. At best you'll get better build, better software compatibility, more features. But not "better sound".
Anonymous No.105900378
The blue vido are so good especially at $2.5 I can't get over them, I just wish the cable didnt feel so shit but I mean the whos complaining at that price. I need to clean out their aliexpress
Anonymous No.105900419 >>105900667
>>105900123
This is a good anwser. Same happens with iems, you dont wanna go too expensive, but dont cheap out either, something like tanchjims DMT 5 diaphragm will sound much better than some random LCPos.
Anonymous No.105900667 >>105900671
>>105900419
And if you scavenge your IEMs from a dumpster that's even better value.
Anonymous No.105900671
>>105900667
Based pagcore jollymaxxer
Anonymous No.105900703
>>105894102
It was never over for us.
Anonymous No.105900757 >>105900825
>>105898716
Drivertards will still believe in headfi nonsense even if you show 100% IR match. This is good enough.
Anonymous No.105900825 >>105900905
>>105900757
Dunning Kruger effect makes you think that your knowledge is absolute
Anonymous No.105900905
>>105900825
You think psychoacoustics is a burger, shush.
Anonymous No.105900970 >>105901068 >>105901111
Tyvan Lam is currently the best IEM designer. EDC Pro is a masterpiece.
Anonymous No.105901068
>>105900970
True, look at all these edc pro enjoyers.
Anonymous No.105901111 >>105901135 >>105901233
>>105900970
I wonder if KZ knows what EDC stands for or they as usual pick three random symbols and called it a day.
Anonymous No.105901135 >>105904264 >>105904273
>>105901111
Exceptional Dynamics & Clarity for Professionals
Anonymous No.105901233 >>105901787
>>105901111
What does EPZ stand for?
Anonymous No.105901434 >>105901447 >>105901834 >>105904022 >>105905546
I just got these and they are not honksmaxxed at all, whoever did those graphs is colluding with the vatnik.

Was fully expecting it to me brighter than Wyvern and its clearly very treble tame.

Liar, liar, cock on fire
Anonymous No.105901447 >>105901463
>>105901434
Why did you buy that pos...
Anonymous No.105901463
>>105901447
Frankly for 23 euros I paid, the cable, tips and case are worth it already
Anonymous No.105901664
Are you a child of the universe?

https://youtu.be/kqzgA-jTO88?si=L8r2KSXUmXJIgbAL
Anonymous No.105901787
>>105901233
EzPzZ
Anonymous No.105901834
>>105901434
timestamp + post beside naked body as PROOF
Anonymous No.105902047 >>105902410
Remember. Listen to your songs, not to your gear. Stop visiting audio equipment foruns and sites (including this general). Stop consuming audio equipment, go support the music artists you like and listen to more music.
Anonymous No.105902095 >>105902444 >>105902990
>>105900267
you get more power, meaning louder
and everybody knows louder is better
Anonymous No.105902410
>>105902047
Only listen to real music
https://youtu.be/VR0XfHWRqA8
Anonymous No.105902441 >>105902959 >>105904022 >>105905546
Acquire TRI Draco.
Anonymous No.105902444 >>105902466 >>105902828
>>105902095
Needing more power is the number one indicator of shit tuning(or ears).
Anonymous No.105902466 >>105902483 >>105902916
>>105902444
it's an indicator of low-sensitivity, never 'shit tuning'. holy hell.
Anonymous No.105902483 >>105902589
>>105902466
No IEM has low sensitivity. Even old-school tinhifi planars with 90 something sensitivity run fine from apple dongle.
Anonymous No.105902589 >>105902605
>>105902483
have you a/b'd 30mw vs. 240mw?
Anonymous No.105902605 >>105902990
>>105902589
20% for good volume vs 2% for good volume(basically unusable without negative preamp).
Anonymous No.105902828
>>105902444
WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE RINGING IN MY EARS
Anonymous No.105902916
>>105902466
When there's not enough bass or treble you instinctively crank the volume up to compensate.
Anonymous No.105902959
>>105902441
I will say it now despite the seethe: gargantuan soundstage.
Anonymous No.105902990 >>105903007 >>105903022
>>105902095
that's bullshit. you a/b apple dongle off your phone with something like a ds2 and you can easily tell the difference.
>>105902605
this is more about scaling and giving particular pos the juice they need, not so much volume. what have you heard scale when adding power?
you're right about negative pregain being necessary.
Anonymous No.105903007 >>105903451
>>105902990
>what have you heard scale when adding power?
Nothing. If you match the volume then the sound is identical.
Anonymous No.105903022 >>105903451
>>105902990
hearing loss scales when adding power
Anonymous No.105903356 >>105903574 >>105904940
Hello, fellow retards.
I need a Bunny -- same sound, fit, price -- but with a sane cable connector. No proprietary tanchjim bullshit.
What are my options?
>INB4 it's a regular 2pin
It's not, you can't buy replacement cables for bunny or One.
Anonymous No.105903451 >>105903551
>>105903007
sounds like a discernment issue.
>>105903022
when adding volume, yes.
Anonymous No.105903531 >>105904909
How durable are OP's recommended USB-C DACs? I listen while out a lot so I have phone in pocket and the DAC cable naturally bends at right-angle down out of the pocket because the headphone cables are longer. The UGREEN one I has worn from this over 6 months and now won't output left channel anymore unless I hold it specifically at this bent angle. I know they're only 10 bucks but it's annoying. Do these JCally ones with the braided cables last longer? Thx in advance frens.
Anonymous No.105903551 >>105903993
>>105903451
There's no physical mechanism by which an IEM can discern whether it receives 1V from a 30mW source or a 300mW source.
Anonymous No.105903553 >>105904909
What is the opinion on the Aful explorer? Are there any similar priced alternatives?
Anonymous No.105903574
>>105903356
Salnotes zero original, maybe Moondrop Lan, based on graphs
Anonymous No.105903584 >>105903670
>"it's not about more volume bro, it's about the headroom"
>look inside
>more volume
Anonymous No.105903670 >>105903678
>>105903584
if my 4head is a 5head, do I need more volume
Anonymous No.105903678 >>105903700
>>105903670
You need to give head.
Anonymous No.105903700
>>105903678
do i get edc pro if i do
Anonymous No.105903993 >>105904035
>>105903551
sine wave at 1V isn’t the same as transient-rich audio like busy music even film scores that have instruments, voice and ambient sounds, all competing to fit in the mix perfectly,
which only competent amps and speakers can accurately reproduce, without collapsing or distorting.
power delivery quality matters just as much as quantity
Anonymous No.105904022
>>105902441
>>105901434
Tbf I still prefer the QKZ x HBB, something about 2DD's is jarring to me, both the Draco and the Truthear Red
Anonymous No.105904035 >>105904073 >>105904397
>>105903993
I don't know if you've ever looked at a "transient-rich audio like busy music even film scores that have instruments, voice and ambient sounds, all competing to fit in the mix perfectly," but it's actually just voltage going up and down. When you set both to 1V peak its integrated power will be less than of a sine wave actually.
Anonymous No.105904073
>>105904035
An actual amp stress test has a waveform that looks like a brick. No transients in sight, just constant power.
Anonymous No.105904264
>>105901135
Sounds about right.
Anonymous No.105904273
>>105901135
*pRodents
Anonymous No.105904397 >>105904423
>>105904035
you're being pedantic about waveforms instead of talking about audible differences.
Anonymous No.105904423 >>105904662 >>105904707
>>105904397
1V is 1V. No matter the waveform, no matter the amp.
Anonymous No.105904430 >>105904514 >>105905946 >>105907647
is light song by livetune still /iemg/'s favourite song?
Anonymous No.105904514
>>105904430
Eww.
Anonymous No.105904545
Frog tws, endgame.
Anonymous No.105904662 >>105904673
>>105904423

no it is not there are these things called damping factor and q
Anonymous No.105904673
>>105904662
Literally just output impedance.
Anonymous No.105904707 >>105904715
>>105904423
so you're saying audible differences do not exist, right?
Anonymous No.105904715 >>105904829
>>105904707
Yes.
Anonymous No.105904829 >>105904841 >>105904939
>>105904715
so you're deaf?
Anonymous No.105904841 >>105904864
>>105904829
No.
Anonymous No.105904864 >>105904879
>>105904841
are you a nihilist?
Anonymous No.105904879
>>105904864
No.
Anonymous No.105904909
>>105903531
meh they're not gonna last much longer

>>105903553
alternative: kefine quatio
Anonymous No.105904939
>>105904829
Of course silly we call him deafzo for a reason
Anonymous No.105904940
>>105903356
>inb4 it's a regular 2-pin
yo dummy, regular 2-pin DO fit tanchjim iems like the bunny perfectly fine, irrespective of the stock cable having longer pins
Anonymous No.105904960
>>105898716
Fair, but the anon's image that inspired you was 1:1. One can argue it's not the same since you can see some leftover.
Anonymous No.105905546 >>105905610
>>105902441
>>105901434
wait why are you guys suddenly buying this random dumb shit?
Anonymous No.105905610 >>105906090
>>105905546
To own foxzo or something. Just went apeshit 2 weeks ago, completely unprovoked, and pranked themselves out of $30. Lmao!
Anonymous No.105905747 >>105906407
Let me just say that I am not an audiophile, I'm just curious about iem's. Ive never had good luck wearing earbuds that I could tolerate for more then 30 mins. Flatheads are the only ones I can tolerate for long periods of listening.

Is it worth looking into buying special eartips or bullethead gels? Ive always just felt uncomfortable or felt pressure build up in my ears canal after wearing gels so I'm wondering if I'm just built not to enjoy them.

Like to hear from other anons that found what worked for them.
Anonymous No.105905882 >>105905899 >>105906023 >>105906454
>auto eq bunny to gate
>it doesn't sound like gate
Anonymous No.105905899
>>105905882
EQ it by ear
which frequencies sound different?
Anonymous No.105905901 >>105905973
>eqing without reading the eq guide
Anonymous No.105905939
>eqing without using peqdb
Anonymous No.105905946
>>105904430
We only listen to real music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyPhsFxnc_c
Anonymous No.105905973
>>105905901
GYAAAAAATT THIS IS A W FAP ONG CUH
Anonymous No.105906023
>>105905882
Happened to at least 30% of techs retards(the rest never seen a graph in their entire life).
Anonymous No.105906031
>using peqdb
Anonymous No.105906090 >>105906130 >>105906159 >>105906414 >>105906540
>>105905610
It started from the "there are no openback iems" discussion. It was already known they're not openback. They still bought it.
Anonymous No.105906130
>>105906090
>cause I said so
Anonymous No.105906159
>>105906090
There are but /iemg/ isn't ready for this discussion.
Anonymous No.105906407
>>105905747
After trying too many tips, spinfit cp100 ss tips and narrow deep insertion iems like etymotics are the only ones I can use for more than about 4 hours at a time
Anonymous No.105906414 >>105906466
>>105906090
if I obstruct the nozzle and crank up the volume, sound is clearly coming out of the vents, so they are open back in that sense, and this definitely contributes to them feeling more spacious and less congested
Anonymous No.105906454 >>105907327
>>105905882
>auto EQ two iems to each other on all the squiglink databases that have both
>the EQ profiles differ by Β± 3db
You can't accurately EQ match two IEMs, the measurement and unit variation is too great.
Anonymous No.105906466 >>105906490 >>105906528
>>105906414
You won't believe what happens when you do this on regular vented IEMs...
Anonymous No.105906490
>>105906466
its just for fun anon, they do sound interesting, i dont think i got the honkmaxxed one, its also way more comfy than qkz x hbb fit wise
Anonymous No.105906528 >>105906542
>>105906466
Thinking an open design will lead to a more spacious sound is dentoid propaganda. Don't fall for it guys, you'll just lose out on Sub-bass.
>VeryFuhKaySchun nawt ree-kwired.
Anonymous No.105906540
>>105906090
thx anon ill look into these and try them out
Anonymous No.105906542
>>105906528
The sub-bass roll off is what makes it spacious!
Anonymous No.105906579 >>105906661 >>105906697
niggas will do anything but buy a quirky iem for fun
Anonymous No.105906661
>>105906579
They can't afford it.
Anonymous No.105906666
desu if some of those are kz stealth revised i wouldnt advice getting them in good conscience
Anonymous No.105906697 >>105906720
>>105906579
No I just don't want to buy an iem associated with some attention starved sperg who comes here to shit his pants over foxes.
Anonymous No.105906720 >>105906742
>>105906697
theres several fox hating schizos, I just want yall to stop buying the same iem over and over, its boring
Anonymous No.105906742 >>105906804
>>105906720
Nooo its only one guy everybody else loves trannyfox surely surely
Anonymous No.105906791 >>105906801
>*3 years of fox*
>I sleep
>*someone remembers foxzo is russian*
>wtf "we" hate fox now!
Anonymous No.105906801 >>105906822
>>105906791
Correction: foxzo gets butthurt and deletes a bunch of joke posts and exposed himself as an eternally seething faggot
Anonymous No.105906804
>>105906742
based, my brother whacking these troons before they appear, that being said im not sure if the graphzo was being facetious, if some of those tri's are stealth revised I would be careful
Anonymous No.105906812
editor here
why do i even bother with this anymore
Anonymous No.105906822 >>105906852
>>105906801
And he deleted >>105898572 because uhh
*aneurism*
Anonymous No.105906830 >>105906873
Hilarious, pretty sure mr fengru doesn't even post that much
Anonymous No.105906852
>>105906822
yeah he doesnt allow fox sloppa, yet I can post tanchjim feet all day
Anonymous No.105906867
>10 summerfags cannot even produce as much vitriol as chuzo
yall fell off lmao
Anonymous No.105906873
>>105906830
No he just deletes posts and malds lmao
Anonymous No.105906888 >>105906907 >>105906961
>its ukrainians
>its a newfag
>its hpg
>its the jimmies
>its /pol/
>its summerfags
whats next?
Anonymous No.105906907 >>105906918
>>105906888
>trips of truth
hang up the paws you troons
Anonymous No.105906918
>>105906907
fucking kek
Anonymous No.105906961 >>105906968
>>105906888
>whats next?
Anonymous No.105906968
>>105906961
wow a /pol/ meme? naughty naughty
Anonymous No.105907327
>>105906454
depends on iem
Anonymous No.105907370 >>105907383 >>105907401 >>105907402 >>105907457
you're telling me i cant eq my $10 pos to a $3000 one?
Anonymous No.105907383 >>105907498
>>105907370
you can if you read the eq guide
Anonymous No.105907401
>>105907370
You can't. I can, because I'm super intelligent and awesome and not a poor russian.
Anonymous No.105907402
>>105907370
you an but it's not a simple as autoEQing 2 random squigs online
Anonymous No.105907457
>>105907370
No, $10 drivers are too high quality.
Anonymous No.105907469
same old regurgitated sloppa about eq....
Anonymous No.105907484
Best budget techs monsters?
Anonymous No.105907498 >>105907547
>>105907383
make a case study out of curiosity
Anonymous No.105907547
>>105907498
yeah, they always claim they can eq to kilobuck, but they never show their eq or what pos they use, presumably for comedic reasons
Anonymous No.105907570
can't eq techs
Anonymous No.105907647
>>105904430
It's made by KZ, so the answer is yes.
Anonymous No.105907689 >>105907711 >>105907728 >>105907776 >>105907874
Dummie here

>Budget
Ideally under 150$
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
I wanna get an IEM for my waifu with custom cute anime prints on the "tips"(?)
Like this anon for example >>105897776
She listens to stuff almost exclusively on her samsung galaxy s25 via bluetooth or the usb-c port
>Frequency response preference and music examples
She listens to a lot of classical music and podcasts on spotify, so sound fidelity isn't a huge concern I think
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
She's been using some pretty scuffed bluetooth JBL 500s for a while, recently her sister let her try some apple airpods and she was impressed with the sound quality relative to the JBLs but thought that the price was outlandish

I understand I can buy some basic ones on aliexpress or temu or whatever, but I was hoping there was some kind of one stop shop for my use case which would be a mid-ish quality sound with the ability to just customize the print
Anonymous No.105907711 >>105907924
>>105907689
EDC Pro + good cable + good eartips + EQ + paint job
Anonymous No.105907728 >>105907739
>>105907689
Aliexpress, official epz store, ask the seller, you can customize most of the IEMs. This is epz g10.
Anonymous No.105907739
>>105907728
*their IEMs
Anonymous No.105907746 >>105907775 >>105907782
My triple flange toys arrive today, sistas. I can't wait to penetrate my ears!
Anonymous No.105907775
>>105907746
Good opportunity to become a flangebro like us.
Anonymous No.105907776
>>105907689
get her Both the epz's that are like $20 with the custom faceplate (not "tips" those are the silicon parts that go in your ears) AND if you want, the moondrop Space travel (tws) for $30. it'll give her the option of portable ones that are better than the jbl's and the custom pretty ones. and teach her about eq.
Anonymous No.105907782
>>105907746
shit hurts my ears too much so I just can't do it lol
Anonymous No.105907874
>>105907689
Totally organic post
Anonymous No.105907924
>>105907711
Anonymous No.105907980 >>105907994 >>105908030
After EQ, my EDC Pro is now as good as any other of my pos.
But why does nobody ever EQ one pos to another?
The real question is why EQ to another pos, when you can EQ to something better?
Anonymous No.105907994
>>105907980
>But why does nobody ever EQ one pos to another?
researchers did
>The real question is why EQ to another pos, when you can EQ to something better?
it's not a real question it doesn't really matter
Anonymous No.105908030 >>105908123
>>105907980
EQing one pos to another is a shartur meme, eqlets just didn't get the memo.
Anonymous No.105908123 >>105908143
>>105908030
how is it a meme at all
Anonymous No.105908143 >>105908161
>>105908123
>no IEM sounds good without EQ
>EQ your IEM to something that doesn't sound good
Genius
Anonymous No.105908161 >>105908180
>>105908143
first point is simply not true
it all really depends on a lot of things
Anonymous No.105908180
>>105908161
Liking something without EQ is a skill issue.
Anonymous No.105908251
>>105908247
new