Thread 105924907

anyone have any registrars they want to shill? I want to run my own email and I'm looking into it. I fucking loath having to give out information, but if I want to pay monero or something for a .moe domain I'm expected to pay literally double what everyone else does and thats before anything else. why did glowniggers have to shit their pants so hard over le hecking dickmailerino?

>>105924907 (OP)
just don't use njala they will steal your domain

If you don't need offshore registrar, just go with Porkbun.
https://porkbun.com/support/payment_options

>>105925237
i hear these guys take down TLDs with just a google flag. I'd prefer not to patronize people who support internet censorship if possible. otherwise I wouldnt need help finding a registrar and could just use cheap cloudjew services like this.

My work used to offer domain registrar services, and I really enjoyed it. But there’s absolutely no money in it, so in the end we stopped and switched it all off. Most smaller registrars will probably do the same over the next couple of years, if they aren’t already.

>Hurrr I just want to not get arrested for CP
Then do a whois on whichever CP sites you currently use, and register your domain with whichever registrar they use.

>>105925435
>hurr muh ceeepeee thats you right OP
projecting with the force of 9001 suns there faggot. all I want is to not give money to people who eat kids like cloudflare. I do have dreams of running a payment processor someday, but thats a million miles away from wanting a .moe email that doesn't cost 30 dollars of bowing and scraping or sucking cloudflares dick for dns privlages

I use Gandi and pay extra for them to manage my associated mail
Pretty happy with the service

>>105925761
>gandi
sounds filled to the gills with jeets

>>105925813
you should have specified that you were looking for a registrar that gives off racist vibes then

>>105925839
I said I didn't want jeets anon, not that I did.

I've been using namecheap all my life, works 4 me.

>>105925839
faggot

My info in the registrar is masked by GDPR. What's the problem here? I simply trust the registrar to do its job, which is to not fucking leak my info.

>>105929183
have fun getting data breached nigger

>>105924907 (OP)
Will the email service be anon friendly OP? I will send a hand photo for an invite <3

>>105929183
>I simply trust

>>105929315
>>105929517
Since when has WHOIS information leaked?

>>105924907 (OP)
gandi if you want an all around smooth experience.

dynadot if you want to do some scam punycode shit and want a registrar that will auto approve it and not care that you have a "göögle.com" domain. idk if their frontend has gotten better, used to be that you couldnt set TTL values outside of a small subset that they approved, even though the RFC allowed longer TTL's. It was only validated on the front end though, so you could change the value to whatever you wanted in the actual request.

pretty sure i put fake info on the WHOIS for both, and have not had an issue with either over a 5+ year span

>>105929183
OP is clearly a retarded child.

>>105924931
>just don't use njala they will steal your domain
Could you elaborate?

>>105925237
I like them hell of a lot better than Godaddy. I'll give them that much.

>>105924907 (OP)
Let me explain how large companies and richfags operate OP. What you need to do is set-up an LLC. This is basically a person that doesn't exist IRL but exists on paper and has all the rights of people. After setting up your LLC (costs about $100-$1k depending on which state you set it up in) you can do certain things you wouldn't be able to do otherwise. Like registering a domain name anonymously. The LLC can own things like property. It also (sometimes) has to pay out taxes. Varies again by state but usually richfags make them in certain states where they can control one fully anonymously and pay little to no taxes on whatever the LLC is doing.

Anyway, once you have the LLC set-up you do all your business and all business related stuff through it. It owns everything. You control it. If something legally happens you have a buffer between yourself and whatever legal problem. Meaning, you can't be sued directly and your personal assets can't be seized.

Now most richfags have multiple LLCs and things called 501(c) organizations. Usually all registered as "non-profit" orgs. The non-profit part doesn't mean you can't have a staff+payroll and sell things by the way.

This is the legal loophole they use to avoid paying taxes and avoid having to dox themself while owning shady companies. All the e-celebs/youtubers/vtubers are operating at 501(c).

Good luck. Don't use one of those middle man registars. Since they technically own the domain and can rug pull you at any time.

>>105933609
Also look into setting up what is called a trust. Technically, I own nothing and I'm very happy. My Trust owns everything including the shirt I'm wearing right now. It owns my house. My cars/trucks. It owns my stocks. It owns my pokemon cards. Everything I "own". It also pays taxes on some of those things. Usually at a much reduced rate compared to what I would pay myself if I "owned" them.

I control the Trust. I "maintain" it for what are called the beneficiaries. Which are currently my children, my wife, my little brother and his wife and their children. I dictated what gets divided among them upon my death. At which point it will split into two Trusts. One that my brother controls and the other that my wife and/or children will control. There are hard rules about what they can do with the assets and money it "owns" even after my death. If they don't follow the rules their control gets taken away and given to whomever I've named (e.g. if my wife does something retarded my oldest son automatically gets full control as an example but I have other rules set-up). I also must follow rules. Like I can't just sell everything whenever I want. Since that would screw over the beneficiaries. Although, I can dissolve it if I want or modify the rules.

ALL richfags operate this way to avoid paying high taxes and prevent losing everything in a lawsuit. Along with the assurance that the wealth will remain in their bloodline for generations to come.

You should consult a lawyer of course. Although it's easy to learn about all this stuff if you're willing to spend some hours reading the law. Wikipedia is actually a good place to start since this isn't a "political" topic. Many good sources there to follow.

Most people don't know about this among poorfags because they don't teach poorfags these things.

>>105933609
>>105933639
Oh I should mention: You can stack LLCs. Since they're a corporation and legally have all the rights as a person they can own things. So you could have Company A owned by LLC <x>, which in turn is owned by Company B owned by LLC <y>, which owns a 501(c) non-profit organization we'll call Company Z.

Company Z can have a staff of say 50 people all on payroll. Along with owning say a large office building and tons of equipment to support whatever "charity" it's involved in. It can take up donations and charge money for services.

So you can pay yourself and your staff huge salaries based upon tax-free donations. As long as you've got your paper work in order at the end of the year it's totally legal. This is how organizations like Mozilla and the FSF work and how they pay their staff millions of dollars a year for people like the CEOs without getting in trouble with the IRS and paying massive taxes.

Lots of people are in on this scam. It's why none of these vtubers raking in millions are paying any taxes on their "donations" and the merch they're selling.

In your case. Find a state that will let you set-up an LLC or 501(c) for about $100-$300. Then use that to buy the domain from where ever. Now you fully control and "own" the domain but none of your personal information is tied to it. In addition, depending on which route you go any income/profit you make using said domain is 100% tax-free.

Best of luck.

>>105930990
See my posts above about LLCs. What these re-sellers are doing is what I described above. But instead of buying domains for themselves they offer a service to buy and manage them for other parties.

What this means is you do not really own or control the domain name. They legally own it and can do whatever they want with it. So they can take away your access to it at any time. You have no legal recourse if they do it. Typically, they will also work closely with law enforcement/feds and hand over your dox to whomever asks. They also don't tend to protect it well from anyone that isn't the law either. They could also vanish tomorrow and sell all the domains they control along with everyone's dox and there is nothing you can do about it.

If you set-up your own LLC/501(c) you can buy domains (well rent, really) yourself and have full control and peace of mind. In addition, you can buy as many domains as you want. Or anything else. You also get access to the benefits I mentioned above.

Everyone that's running a business should NEVER have it tied to their personal legal name. Since it's very easy to get in legal hot water, sued or fucked over by the tax man/Government. LLC is peace of mind for not much money.

Many states are _very_ lax on the rules they have for LLCs/corps. It's why so many richfags all register theirs in the same states and lobby so hard to keep the laws in them the way they currently are. You do not have to be a citizen or operate anything your business owns/does out of those states. The "person" that owns them simply exists in whatever state you registered in on paper as a "citizen".

>>105933609
>Non profits can't have staff
You're post is true, except this part.

>>105933609
>american brain thinks we all live in the states

>>105933873
>retard thinks you have to live in the states to create a legal fiction in the states.

>>105933873
Oh, no anon, it's much worse.
>retarded mutt thinks it costs $1k to register an llc
>retarded mutt thinks entertainment studios are 5013cs
>retarded mutt thinks you can register an llc anonymously
>retarded mutts' frame of reference of doing business dealing is... getting scammed by a domain reseller
>retarded mutt, get this, thinks the government and tax office[s] dont know who is behind your LLC
>paying staff with revenue is a scam in of itself
>retarded mutt thinks your ownership of an LLC cant be taken away or sold off by a court

Is this what happens to your brain after spending all day watching get rich quick influencers? probably.

>>105933609
i dont have hundreds a month to make a distinct entity like richfags can.

>>105934520
none of that is relevant to my op, which is about finding a registrar that I wouldnt want to slit my throat before giving money to.
I HATE ICANN I HATE ICANN

>>105935008
year rather

Kinda related, but our service died for a few hours because our domain registrar we've used for a decade got randomly sold to another registrar, and the new owners notified us that they're turning off the old registrar's nameservers a day before they did it, and the new nameservers were bugged and pointed domains to wrong IPs. Took them a while to fix it and for the changes to propagate to the DNS servers. I honestly never thought we'd have to defend our infrastructure against domains just randomly dying on the registrar side, but apparently that happens.

>>105933744
This is incredibly valuable information bro, where can I read more about methods like this

>>105935391
nta I'm op and you can do that but if you aren't making any money from it theres zero point because A: all of your income comes from taxable income (waging) and is already subject to taxes and B: sheltering it in this way is increadibly costly requiring filing taxes at minimum twice a year on top of filing fees, establishment fees, and various regulations on how you must audit and record your transactions make it a legal mess that you will likely need to pay someone to understand.

I'm not saying you shouldnt do it but it's not free to do and if you just want to have a registrar his advice would take the cost from 10 dollars a year to hundreds.

>>105933609
>Don't use one of those middle man registars.
You have no idea what you're talking about, no registries sell domains, it's always the registrar

>>105935474
Nah not the tax evasion, the being anonymous part

>>105934520
You obviously know what I said is true and are trying to pain me to be some kind of idiot because you don't want others doing it.
>thinks entertainment studios are 501(c)
I said YOUTUBERS and every fag on the internet with a virtual cup out asking for "donations" is a 501(c). They are. You are the one that knows nothing. Cost to register LLC varies by STATE. Which was also something I pointed out many times.

But you're hoping people are too stupid to read and you're probably right.

>>105935008
It's not
>per month
retard. It's a one time fee.

>>105935391
Like I said go to wikipeida. Put in some of the terms I've mentioned. Go from there. That's how I learned. There are walls and walls of text there. Then from there go read the information on each different states/countries website.

>>105935474
>sheltering it in this way is increadibly costly requiring filing taxes at minimum twice a year on top of filing fees, establishment fees, and various regulations on how you must audit and record your transactions make it a legal mess that you will likely need to pay someone to understand.
Its not hard and you don't have to file that often. You file once a year just like any fag does with a W2. These are actually much simpler than W2s and less of a pain in the ass. Don't fall for the accountantfag BS about IRS being hard to understand/deal with. It's very easy if you know how to fucking read, know what Black's Law/legalease is and don't go out of your way to fuck the IRS over. Most of the time the IRS doesn't even bother to check on these organizations and you can go 5-10+ years without even filing paper work before they'll notice. I obviously don't suggest you do that though.

At any rate, the tax side of it isn't hard and yes it's absolutely worth it. Anyone that is running some kind of business/organization and not doing it is setting themself up for a ton of pain in the future. Never tie your legal name to anything like that or to things like loans.

>>105935612
>You have no idea what you're talking about, no registries sell domains, it's always the registrar
You obviously can't read. Since I am obviously talking about these shady registrars that offer to buy domains for you while hiding your personal information.

Also yes it's totally possible to buy a domain without dealing with them. Provided you aren't a piss ant like (you). The whole TLD system is a big scam anyway. It isn't complicated to understand how it works and how domains are doled out. I've only been buying them for 30 years now. I should know. You'll never really "own" a domain but you can certainly pay the rental fees for decades and squat on them.

>>105925237
They're fine. Rarely they'll flag accounts and require you to verify a cellphone number, or even provide an ID for KYC but they still let you transfer your domains out in those cases.

>>105935474
Setting up an LLC for tax planning is another thing entirely. It's absolutely worth it for anonymity (depending on your use case of course) and it doesn't even need to be incorporated in the US for most common TLDs, save for .us if I'm not mistaken.

>anonymously
you're not even anonymous here, you retard.

I've been using https://orangewebsite.com/ for a couple of years already, and can't say anything bad. You can register with made up personal info and they support crypto payments.