ITT: lost technology

ive seen one of these irl

>>106019920 (OP)
Gimmick. More moving parts = More easily broken

>>106020135
trvth NVKE
OP - obliterated

>>106019920 (OP)
I have two of these

>>106020135
Today's technology breaks a lot faster than anything that was made in the 90s.

>>106019920 (OP)
>Extend the keyboard for more space
>couldn't even fit a numpad in there
Not buying.

>>106020157
>zoomer screeching gibberish

>>106020135
>anon is a toddler

>>106020182
Take off your rose tinted glasses, gramps.

>>106020262
Nta but he's right. Grab an original Gameboy and try to damage it. Essentially impossible. Now drop your newest iPhone on concrete once.

>>106020357
>hurr durr they just don't make them like that anymore
Grab a glass made in the 90s, drop it to the floor, guess everything made in the 90s is easily shatterable shit huh?
If modern phones were built like gameboys yeah no shit they wouldn't shatter but people don't want phones that need an additional pouch/bag just to put it away when not in use.

>>106019920 (OP)

>>106020252
Does that act like a oil drill piston? Seems lit if it doesn't fucking kill you with a gas powered uppercut to the jaw.

>>106020435
Is this ironic? In the 90s we had gorilla glass glass that didn't break when dropping. Some patent troll made them illegal. It's still being sold on ebay for hundreds of dollars nowadays.

Or you're a zoomer that accidentally said something ironic. Either way we've regressed in production quality since the 90s.

>>106020625
>but muh gorilla glass
We also have phones today that you can throw off of a building without them breaking. You can go to east Germany they still make those indestructible glasses today and no they weren't discontinued because of a patent troll. You know I was wondering if you were just pretending or actually retarded, that zoomer projection answered the question.

>>106019920 (OP)
>this was enough to run word and excel
>now you need 10 times the compute power to do the same thing on a bigger laptop

>>106020824
>10 times the compute power
More like 1000 times. Word processors and spreadsheets are practically unchanged in their functionality from 40 years ago, when they could run perfectly fine on an 8mhz 286.

>>106020511
Yes. It would take diesel, so when the piston compressed enough it would automatically ignite (no spark plugs required).

I saw a video of someone using it... doesn't go that high and sounds like a bomb is going off every time you jump.

>>106020747
Fuck off back to Discord zoom zoom.

>>106020908
>can't do anything but screech zoomer
Genuine NPC. Just a short list of scripted responses.

>>106019920 (OP)
It's not really "lost", it's just that pretty much immediately after that, the market for sub-notebooks kinda died and there was no need for foldable keyboard.

>>106020457
FUCKING BASED!!!

>>106020182
That doesn't excuse introducing weaknesses. I'd also prefer to use an old thinkpad over a macbook but OP's laptop is horrible

>>106019920 (OP)
This is so freaking cool why can't we have cool tech designs anymore :(

>>106019920 (OP)

>>106020063
I miss rear fingerprint scanners so much.

>>106020110
Did it work?

>>106019920 (OP)
why not just make it two inches bigger? what was the point? its not as though this radically changes the form factor.

>>106023820
no, its just a piece of transparent plastic thats blue on the top, beige in the middle and green at the bottom that you place on your screen
->voila
->color tv

the cringiest invention ever
beats radium ballsack medalions and heroin cough drops in my book

>>106019920 (OP)

>>106024878
how can this be an accurate representation when I'm watching it on an LCD? Shouldn't the LCD and the CRT both look like trash on my own monitor?

>>106025245
Anon... you might be slightly slow. This is like asking "can a video of a laser pointer blind me".
There is no motion in the video, because the camera's own motion cancels the panning out. Objects are perfectly still on *your* monitor, thus motion blur of your monitor is not a contributor.

Consider, why don't the cars in attached gif blur due to your monitors motion blur? They're moving at 200mph!!

>>106020908
do you spend your whole day screeching about zoomers when 4chan is dying precisely because of no fresh blood?

>>106019920 (OP)

>>106026548
>coiled cable
I still don't understand why we lost this one. I don't see a single benefit to flimsy uncoiled cables other than making me waste more money buying a new one in a couple of weeks.

>>106020063
Going to miss my rear fingerprint reader. Really nice to be able to pull out my phone in a normal way, have it unlock and then be able to swipe down on the reader and see my notifications easily.

>>106020062
God audiophiles are such retards.

>>106026707
>coiled cable
Still making Spyros Melaris seethe to this day

>>106023902
Many old arcades used a similar trick.

>>106026707
Probably to save the amount of copper used

>>106024878
Good riddance if it means getting rid of pseuds that don't understand how displays work
That 60fps will look equally shitty and having "better" response times doesn't mean shit when in the end you're still only getting a new picture every 16ms and a typical oled could theoretically display 2000hz+ if the tech ever got there

>>106028079
The human eye can't discern more than 120hz, and every CRT made from the mid 90s and later can do at least that. Some can even do 200hz.

>>106028079
In the early 2000s I ran a 19" CRT at 140 Hz when gaming. Modern LCDs do not compare, they suck.

>>106023751
Roman naval fingerbox?

>>106020031
>DVD
>rewinder
Am I getting bamboozled?

Thinkpad W700ds

>>106028879

>>106028879
i just use tape.
glowniggers aren't watching my through my camera jerking it to anime tranny porn. they're gonna have to use drones or that wifi mapping shit. fucking perverts.

>>106020157

>>106020252
>capable of handling a 280 pound payload
Oh it can just about manage the lardasses of /g/

>>106020457
sus

>>106028079
>That 60fps will look equally shitty
Wrong, only someone that hasn't seen a CRT could ever say this.
Besides, CRTs aren't limited to 60hz. I own one that does 200hz.
> having "better" response times doesn't mean shit
Correct, but not because of what you think - OLEDs look exactly as blurry as that LCD.
The blur has nothing to do with response times, but sample&hold.
>and a typical oled could theoretically display 2000hz+ if the tech ever got there
We already have 500hz OLEDs that are starting to kind of approximate CRT clarity, but we have no games that can run at 500fps. And huge fraction of all games made even today are all permanlocked to 60fps, like virtually all 2d games ever. Meme 9000fps OLEDs will never be of any use with any of these games.
Same is true with 60fps video.
>pseuds that don't understand how displays work
Ironic.

>>106020063
That's my phone.
LMGYNM?

>>106020357

>>106020063
My S9 is still alive and I will never use any other phone, unless if it uses USB-C 3.1 (dockstation compatibility, in other words, you can turn your phone into a multi-emulator console)

>>106028585
the real version of this is supposed to clean your disc. its almost like these discs that were supposed to clean your drive lens.

>>106020157
>>106020110
>>106020099
>>106020063
>>106020062
>>106020031
>>106019920 (OP)
laptops, music players, phones, soda cans and color tv all still exist you fucking retards.

>>106029541
prove it

>>106028879
Early 2000s phone design was so creative. So many different things because phones weren't really capable of doing it all, so you'd get stuff that was really good with text (with full keyboards), or really good at pictures, or good at small form factors.

>>106029541
>x exists without the specific feature that makes it worthy of the thread, you absolute moron
Retard.

>>106029541
>mass replier is a massive retard
many such cases!

>>106020062
I remember Techmoan reviewing this. In the nicest, sincerest British way he managed to destroy this device by ripping a CD, "shaving" it, ripping it again, importing the music from both rips into Audacity, invert the wave of one of the imported rips only to produce a track of absolute silence. Typical snake oil product for audiophools.

>>106026056
If anything this site got discovered by normies and it's been ruined ever since. You're way off.

Despite the ongoing vinyl revival, nearly all extant turntable production is manual, belt-driven garbage. This fully automatic direct-drive model from 30 years ago has a magnetically dampened tone arm.

>>106030959
id would much rather service a belt drive than a direct drive when it inevitably breaks

>>106028451
>>106028474
>>106029209
Zoomers are mad because I spoke straight facts, angry and pretending to have nostalgia for something they were never even around for.

>>106020435
>people don't want phones that need an additional pouch/bag just to put it away when not in use.

>>106031132
Are you here just to shit up the board with blatant gaslighting and utter nonsense?

>>106031288
>Are you here just to shit up the board with blatant gaslighting and utter nonsense?

>>106020908
Imagine complaining that people have a hard time using printers when they are specifically designed to be hard to use, break constantly, make you buy toner when you don't need to. I will never give anyone a hard time using printers because of how stupidly they are designed. Shit makes my blood boil.

>>106031434
>designed to be hard to use, break constantly, make you buy toner when you don't need to.
How? You just hit print on the document or press the buttons on the machine and it just works. It's not hard buddy. Just try to focus all your neurons without scrolling your phone for 10 seconds./

>>106031192
Wtf is that?

>>106028879
>camera covers gone
Sad.

>>106031501
Our particular brand of home /g/rown autismo.

>>106028785
How about GPD DUO?

>>106028879
damn. its fucking over

>>106020063
I can't believe you can get one of these for $100 nowadays. This used to be the coolest phone ever.

>>106020849
>unchanged in their functionality from 40 years ago, when they could run perfectly fine on an 8mhz 286
But somehow a $2k mac struggles running libreoffice.

>>106031434
>why can't it be a touchscreen OMG this is so confusing

Apparently we can't keep a battery attached to a phone without glue anymore. It's a complete mystery how we used to do it 10 years ago.

>>106032632
There's a ton of phones still being made without glued batteries, anon.

>>106032686
2 smartphones in the year 2025. In 2026 it will be 0. Lost technology.

>>106020063
Explain.
t. had to join the shitphone bandwagon 3.5 years ago and still using my first

>>106032702
gsmarena doesn't have a lot of brands and it's "removable battery" filter only applies to phones where the back can also be easily removed with just your fingers.
Rugged phones, for example, almost never use glued batteries. But they're often not listed because their backs are held by screws. I'd still consider the battery easily removable because there's no need to ever apply heat and you don't need to peel/melt any glue.
Also, it's not "lost tech" if the devices are still used.

>>106032702
>Lost technology.
>is quite literally mandated by the eu from next year
what did he mean by this

>>106019920 (OP)
i want less mechanical parts not more

>>106028879
crazy how they stole privacy from you and nobody even noticed

>>106032753
that's a bit silly to exclude devices that need a screwdriver to replace the battery. even many toys have a screw on the battery compartment, it doesn't mean you're not intended to replace them

>>106029209
>Besides, CRTs aren't limited to 60hz. I own one that does 200hz.
I mean, NTSC was 60hz by definition, and a consumer CRT TV probably wasn't going to support anything besides that. If we're talking CRT monitors then supported video modes was all over the place, 75hz was pretty common for normal desktop resolutions.

>>106030543
More like they were all shit so you'd have to market them based on gimmicks. Real people used PDAs or smartphones with a real OS back then, while retards were paying for fucking MIDI ringtones.

>>106020357
The screen cover will scratch if you store it in your pocket or let it touch literally anything
The batteries can leak
The display ribbon cable often stops working
Did I forget anything?

>>106032753
>Rugged phones, for example, almost never use glued batteries. But they're often not listed because their backs are held by screws
*Takes notes to check out Samsung's Xcover next time*

>>106020157
shut the fuck up

>>106028879
I think I cummed.

>>106033051
If you had ever owned a gameboy you'd know which of your statements were wrong.

>>106033137
I do own one.

>>106033093
Disgusting

>>106028879
>LOOK HOW BIG OUR CAMERA IS, IT'S JUST LIKE A REAL CAMERA!!
>Well actually, it's only THIS big
>Well, THIS big...
>No not that circle, the smaller one
>No, smaller
>smaller
>yeah that tiny dot right there, the pinhole camera
God I fucking hate when phones do this
This is an actual insult to intelligence

>>106033146
>posts a wrong statement then doubles down and claims to own one
doubt.jpg

>>106033182
Still no actual counterarguments except "no that must be wrong"

>>106033051
>The screen cover will scratch if you store it in your pocket or let it touch literally anything
sure, it's a plastic screen cover. but just putting it in your pocket won't make large enough scratches to matter. i used gameboys as a kid for many years without worrying about scratches. the screen is too low res for tiny scratches to make a difference
>The batteries can leak
sure if you forget about it for a few years
>The display ribbon cable often stops working
never heard of this happening on any gameboy actually. source?

>>106023751
that's not a octahedron, it's a dodecahedron.
octa is 8, do+deca (2+10) is 12. There are 12 sides

>>106033205
-- also for context i only owned gameboy pocket, colour, and advance (original), not the original gameboy or gba sp, so if you're specifically talking only about the original, perhaps it's different

>>106033196
>pls tell me how i fucked up so i can do my larp better next time
lolno
You got a key detail wrong, and it's painfully obvious to anyone who has actually owned and used a gameboy.

>>106033205
>never heard of this happening on any gameboy actually. source?
https://wolfgang-ziegler.com/blog/fixing-gameboy-display

>>106033152
>t. Alligator

>>106032702
>>106032803
Glued batteries are kind of a two pronged thing. They're used to prevent repairability, but also because it helps keep the phone that slightest bit thinner for not needing to provide an access panel.
Phones absolute insane pursuit of thinness seems to have died down a bit, probably because there's only so thin you can get before its not possible to just hold the thing or not bend it in your pocket. Also because newer shiny things like AI or folding screens came along.
Phones are really just as gimmick driven as they were in the past, especially now that so many are just a big screen. Its really hard to differentiate your phone from the rest when so many look the same.

>>106032753
>>106032975
the fairphone screw is literally visible in that screenshot, you guys are retarded

>>106033794
>Its really hard to differentiate your phone
make it non-shit and put on a headphone jack and you only have 1 competitor

>>106033882
ok but what does that have to do with what either of us said

>>106033916
that the filter does not exclude devices where the replaceable battery requires a screw, you dumb nigger

>>106032748
pls respond

I don't follow phoneshit, is the backside reader getting replaced with side reader or something?

>>106019920 (OP)
Docking stations when they were actual docking stations instead of gay USB hubs that break within two weeks

>>106033953
under-display readers, imo side readers are the best out of the three

>>106034020
Lame, but I'll manage as long as it isn't side. Using your index finger on the back seems like the most natural 1hand way to unlock.

>>106034076
but not thumb on side?

>>106034090
works great on my XZ1, it's like your phone doesn't have a password at all when you're the one using it

>>106034090
Index is something that hits the reader while I'm fishing up my phone. Thumb rests on the middle of the side, and thumbreaders seems to always be placed near the top making it more of a bother to unlock.

>>106033989
The only good can opener is the one where I don't have to touch sharp metal to get my goy slop

>>106030990
>direct drive
>inevitably breaks
lmao nigga never heard of the Technics 1200..still have mine after 20 years, still working as it should.

>>106020357
>comparing toy designed for kids throwing it around to a phone made of metal and glass
Switch 2 is pretty durable too

>>106020435
ever since "smartphones" came to being you almost always will have cracks on the screen, never seen such a thing with "dumbphone"

>>106020252
this thing is dope, I have no idea why no one else has recreated it. seems like a hella fun time

>>106034358
thats your mothers dildo LOL

>>106034015
is lamenting the lack of camera flashes or the lack of being allowed to bring a recording device to a commercial event?

>>106034514
old cameras had their flash on default and most retards who go see wrestling never disabled it
film cameras with low iso (cheaper film) would have their flash on for large indoor stadiums. those flashes go off for no reason really. maybe people did it on purpose to look cool.
many disposable cameras all had flahses and you had to turn it off manually.
likewise most people disable their flash on their phone and phones have much better sensors that they dont need flash most of the time.

pro recording devices were never allowed and anyone with a SLR/DSLR would be smart enough to disable their flash.

>>106033989
these must be out of patent, assuming they ever were. why couldn't you 3d print them or something and sell them en masse? the chink-made ones being sold currently fucking suck

>>106034859
>opening a metal can with a plastic utensil
What could possibly go wrong.

>>106034859
Those work because they're made fully out of cast iron
a 3d printed piece of shit would not only not be able to open the can but also snap in your hand the first time you tried to use it

>>106019920 (OP)
ai

>>106033989
That last one is just OLD, theres one in the kitchen

>>106028474
CRTs were not phased out over image quality. That 19” probably weighs 20 pounds.
A 27” crt pushes 80. I know this first hand, struggling to fit an 80 pound tv into the back of a shitty 1993 Toyota Tercel to bring back to my dorm room is not something I’ll forget. Meanwhile my glass desk currently has 2 27” lcd monitors on it, weighing under 10 pounds combined.
There are trade offs anon.

>>106034015
god attitude era was unironically so kino

it sucks i dont think i can get my kids on wrestling. showing them reruns doesnt have the same magic and wrestling is fucking GAY now

>>106033931
You don't need to unscrew anything to access the Fairphone battery, retard.

>>106031501
Don't bother, it's shit.

t. haver

>>106035322
>now
Anon, it was always homo erotic pantomime for closeted faggots.

>>106035427
a gay bullied nerd with dork opinions on le chon... you dont say...

>>106034591
>>106034015
Admittedly, it does look cool.
Has life gotten incidentally less interesting with advances in technology.

>>106034984
Consider: 3D print plastic (or carve wood?), sand mold, molten iron.

>>106019920 (OP)
Non LED lighting in daily life

>>106035574
>pouring molten iron in a plastic mold
What could possibly go wrong.

>>106019920 (OP)
Javastation, the chromebook of the 90s

>>106035679
The sand is the mold, the plastic is the template, the iron fills in the impression left by the template.
You could probably melt and drain it, then use the drain as an inlet for the iron.
Alternatives? Besides owning machining equipment.

>>106035713
Iron goes liquid at ~800 celcius. Or 1100. I tend to mix up the melting point of rock and iron for some reason. The bottomline is that a flimsy plastic mold is not going to cut it. At least not unless you make it so xboxhueg there's room for absurd amounts of insulation. You're better off getting reusable custom made metal molds because the excess insulation would kill your profits.

>>106035816
>profits
I'm thinking production at an individual scale for a one off.
The originals in the video aren't exactly high precision, yet work well.
It seems feasibly for someone today to make one of these if they wanted one, and likely still to a higher precision than those.

For mass production there would be plenty of options at various scale.

>>106033989
What the fucking complex designs. Over here everyone has this simple one: no moving parts to break, any retard can build one with a single sheet of metal, just cut and bend the hook. Why do you guys overcomplicate it? A fucking knife can open it in an emergency, that was the appeal of these sealed cans.

>>106035392
Wait, it's a real device? I always assumed it was like that "if /g/ made the iphone" meme.

>>106036060
While simple, the mechanism is mostly your hand.
It is our natural duty to exploit mechanical power.

ccd and film cameras
analog animation

>>106035909
>muh 3D printing technologerino
Bro, just go to your local smith/metalworker/dunno what they call themselves over there, peopel who make ad hoc metal stuff, usually one-off jigs like support for some thing to fit some other thing and has to be metal because it's heavy things. Usually to contruction or small repairs. Anyway, those guys will look at you vid, or even a pic and say: "Okay, I spin some scrap metal into a circle, weld those spikes, and done. I'll be back in 15 minutes, that'll be X bucks"

>>106035909
The first guy wanted to mass produce so that was my point of view.
That aside, these things works because the parts that cut into the can are harder than the metal the can is made of. That means you can't skip the cast iron or steel part, which in turn means beating red hot shit with a hammer or having access to a cnc machine.
If you want to make one just to say you did it, you should consider lurking /diy/ for a bit, but do expect to get your hands dirty. If you just want a can opener you're better off getting the last one in the video or low tech version this guy posted >>106036060

>>106036091
But it is a lever. The hook to vertex is much shorter than the handle to the vertex. Opening with just a knife would be a wedge, because try that with a blunt knife to see how well it goes.

>>106036105
>just get someone else to do it
Figured it'd be more interesting to discuss the possible ways of production since I can already buy a can opener.
Nevermind.

>>106034960
>>106034984
you can 3d print "metals" these days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw9VF1V-Lzc

>>106036182
Okay, then bend a scrap metal and solder the spikes? It's way easier to lern2metalworking for small pieces like this than to 3d print and etc. But it's not something with some badass looking anvil or anything you can post on leddot and get a nerdboner about.

>>106036254
the amount of buzzwords you use to attack other people is interesting
have you ever worked a single day or done something useful in your life, you useless fuck?

>>106034765
>OP's buttplug

>>106036278
Yes? My father and grandfather worked metalworking, I was the kid "apprentice" that is like an intern, but for that. We built most of the metal stuff on grandma's house: all doors and windows, tables, chairs, etc. Yes, it's made of metal because it's easier for us to build it than to pay some woodworker for it. And it was done as weekend projects, so we can work on stuff that actually make money Mon-Fri. It's way easier than "let's study the 3D printer market to see which model can do what I need, buy it overpriced, then learn to calibrate it, etc etc, then buy overpriced plastic, oh, and it'll just make some mold for us to pour metal later on". Just bang on some metal, done. It's not fucking hard.

>>106036237
Intredasting. Doable, but you get shit quality metal so meh. Worst case it's so shit the can opener breaks at the wrong time and you cut an artery on the lid.
There's also the part with needing a ceramics oven. I doubt many 3d printing nerds have one of those as well.

>>106036407
>bro just have family that does the hobby so they can teach you at a young age it's so fucking easy why don't you get it why aren't you just like me
low IQ autist behavior

>>106028879
I want to go back. Fun is not allowed nowadays.

>According to Nasa

>>106036500
No. Like I said, go to a retard that works with it, if you want to. But it's fucking easy. Just go to the store and ask and they'll show any retard. Fifty years ago, men were expected to maintain their homes instead of outsourcing it to pablo. It was so easy any retard could do it back then. How hard is it?

>take metal sheet about the size you want
>cut it to about this shape >>106036060 with saw stronger than the metal being cut, or chink cheap power tools that any monkey can operate
>bend the hook with some pliers

Done. If you want to, you can use knife grinding stone to grind the hook into sharper.

Tools: saw, pliers, power toolfor cutting optional. Maybe a bench?

How is this harder than setting up he whole3D printer to sand mold to melted iron pipeline for a "I don't want to scale, just a one off" job?

>>106036519
>tfw you know that feel
Good night sweet prince. You did your duty for almost 10 years. I miss you.

>>106036547
"We did it !"

>>106036567
>almost 10 years
Maybe you had it for 10 years, but if handed it down to someone else it lasted another 10 years for him and then for the next. It would probably still work today if they didn't shut down the cellular antennas.

>>106020625
My washing machine broke down after 2 years and 12 days, just after the warranty period.
So I opened it and a capacitor burst. Googled a bit. Lifespan ~3 years. The good capacitors with ~20 years service life would have cost 4 cents more. But couldn't repair it because they covered the plate with synthetic resin - only where the cheap capacitors were installed.

My grandma's washing machine from the 80s is still running.

Welcome to capitalism.

>>106036591
The plastic was starting to crumble, so I kind of doubt it. Not without some parts replacements at least.

>>106033960

That´s everyting we needed, and still is

>>106034376
she got a good deal when your dad upgraded to picrel

>>106019920 (OP)
Boomers know this technology.

>>106036633
>2 years and 12 days, just after the warranty period.
And despite this glaringly obvious example of planned obsolence, your average american will still defend corporations and say government regulations are a bad thing.

>>106036660
>not even the classic
shamefurdispray.jpg

>>106036665
I can hear this image.

>>106025245
kek

>>106030959
my at-lp60 stopped working, i tried fixing it 3 times using different sources and it never worked again. my vinyl collection is just gathering dust.

>>106025245
woah

>>106019920 (OP)

>>106034358
https://youtu.be/iyM0rkoO-XI

>>106031192
I would unironically use it.

>>106037158
projared?

>>106035372
right, everyone lied to me and those screws dont do anything. how could I have been this foolish

>>106034010
i can feel my neck hairs raising up just looking at that.

>>106033093
third bro was ready to fight back

The lost technology of not having trillions invested in finding the lowest possible bar that can be sold at the highest possible price with extremely high accuracy
>A new thing sold in the 50s which can't be serviced nor repaired by yourself and is actually expected to be replaced entirely within 5 years for reasons you cannot affect
If it existed it was exceedingly rare. Now people sort of want to buy a new phone every year. Most feel it's gone to shit within 5.

>>106020457
take me home country roads

>>106033093
>Alligator fear the spade.

>>106034005
heh dell had some nice ones, I had one you could put a graphics card in before egpu was a thing

>>106036547
fake ai generated the moon is flat and it's made of cheese and it's this robot there, to prevent you from eating all the cheese

>>106036660
my god that's some heavy tits

>>106039397
Woof imagine what the modern department of defense is like. DEI is a deathblow

>>106028879
all of those moving parts would last an eternity, could probably work to this day if you dailied it since launch all this time
but if the made things like these today in the absolute best case they'd be perfectly engineered to shit the bed just after warranty runs out

>>106039369
Chat, is this real?

>>106033093
>OH MY GOD BILLY BOB, NOW HE'S GOT THE SHOVEL!

>>106036834
I'm sure it can be fixed.

>>106028879
mouth dropped

>>106034404
>Witchita
can't even spell

>>106034015
top way better

>>106036547
unironically

>>106036814
>at-lp60
>$199
>no tonearm counterweight
You're better off. That thing is a piece of shit. Just get a vintage Technics p-mount or something like it. Idiot proof, shouldn't cost more than $80.

>>106020182
depends on the technology but generally i agree.

>>106037931
>Most feel it's gone to shit within 5.
Because it usually has, the battery doesn't last or the OS is no longer getting security updates.