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/pcbg/ - PC Building General
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X, 14400F
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X, 14600K
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high-end: consider 2x48GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>106074033

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Anonymous No.106110036 [Report]
>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/
Anonymous No.106110165 [Report] >>106110178 >>106110197
msi B550 gaming plus, says 3 m2 ssds, two in cpu. no mention in manual if you lose gpu lanes by using both cpu ones. this is anti-consumer. you find out it doesn't work after you pay $200 for it and try to use it.
youtube reviewers aren't testing this shit. we're fully uninformed at the mercy of corporations. I hate this shit.
also fuck youtube reviewers, all they good for is showing fps slop benchmarks.
Anonymous No.106110178 [Report] >>106110216 >>106111733
>>106110165
buy a mobo with more lanes
Anonymous No.106110197 [Report]
>>106110165
Have you tried asking customer support? Even if you haven't bought it yet, it's worth trying, maybe it's not malicious
Anonymous No.106110216 [Report] >>106110258
>>106110178
36 pcie lanes is already enough. 16+4+4+4 that's it. gpu + two m2 + chipset. all working full speed. with extras to spare.
why aren't they mentioning in the manual "if you install 2nd cpu m2 your gpu will run x8 lanes" why are they omitting this? isn't it to trick the customer.
also mf I'd be already paying $200 for that shit, to get am4 experience, or even worse, as far as m2 ssds + gpu is concerned. this shit sucks balls
Anonymous No.106110258 [Report]
>>106110216
>why are they omitting this?
"bruh they gotta meet the price point. writing shit in pdfs costs money if you want better manuals pay more for more exclusive models. then you are told IT STILL DOESN'T FUCKING WORK, but you gotta pay for that privilege!"
Anonymous No.106110338 [Report] >>106110943 >>106111672
is the 9070xt worth buying yet
Anonymous No.106110414 [Report] >>106110591
I was looking at Asus PRIME B850 but MSI PRO B850 has twice the features at 'bout same price
so, where is the catch? or is asus charges that much premium?
Anonymous No.106110588 [Report]
>>106110031 (OP)
> Noctua G2
Anonymous No.106110591 [Report]
>>106110414
Asus tax is real
Anonymous No.106110613 [Report] >>106112524 >>106113967
Thoughts on buying turbo chink mobos? Jginyue in particular. People seem to love them, and while I know everything is made in china, there's something off-putting about a lesser know brand like this one, even if reviews are good
Anonymous No.106110785 [Report] >>106111574
>>106110031 (OP)
Purchased a KTC M27T6 today. Looking forward to taking it for a spin. Was thinking of pairing with a solid IPS monitor for dual monitor set up, for a best of both worlds blend. I've liked ASUS monitors in the past so the XG27ACS/ACMG is a top consideration right now. Looks like those are both in the recommended list, am I missing any other good considerations below $500? US
Anonymous No.106110811 [Report]
>>106110031 (OP)
>a literal SOUND BOX
Wouldn't that just make the whole thing that much louder?
Anonymous No.106110879 [Report] >>106111574
Hello yall. So the available decent cpu option right now in my cunt is ryzen 7 7700 non x and ryzen 5 9600x. Which one should I go for for 1440p gaming that can also handle a handful of multitasking like streaming, chrome tabs, etc. I dont mind the workstation capabilities but it would be nice to take it into account too
Anonymous No.106110943 [Report] >>106110965
>>106110338
It already was but you missed it [i paid $630 for powercolor hellhound]
Anonymous No.106110965 [Report] >>106110973
>>106110943
Bullshit, 630 goofy dollars maybe.
Anonymous No.106110973 [Report]
>>106110965
Microcenter open box
Anonymous No.106110975 [Report] >>106111265 >>106111268 >>106112994
I have my Windows on SATA SSD.
This one https://www.kingston.com/en/ssd/kc600-sata-solid-state-drive
I like it that way because 250GB is reasonable size for OS partition that spans entire disk.
And I have another SSD a bit older that I keep as a backup drive: basically every couple weeks I clone entire OS SSD to a backup one (and also retain 3 backups elsewhere)

Now, I'm upgrading my rig and plan to get Samsung 990 Pro 2TB for games.
I want to keep my OS on SATA SSD because:
>current backup scheme is convenient
>I already have USB box for 2.5" devices
>chipping out 250GB OS partition out of new 2TB Drive sounds stupid
>Using entire 2TB drive as 1 OS partition is inconvenient for backups

Question: would I really lose GAMING performance from having my OS on SATA SSD versus M.2 NVME?

Buying another fast NVME just for OS sounds stupid. They don't come smaller than 500gb anyway. I do have Samsung 960 Evo 500GB that I currently use for games, but I don't think it would be much faster as OS disk.

Thoughts?
Anonymous No.106111184 [Report] >>106111574
Is the 9060XT 16GB at 340 dollars a good deal?
Anonymous No.106111265 [Report]
>>106110975
actual autism
Anonymous No.106111268 [Report]
>>106110975
i saw giant robot nipples in the thumbnail, i'm too gooned out man...
Anonymous No.106111357 [Report] >>106111607 >>106111670
First time builder here.

I watched a bunch of tutorials but there's couple things on my board (B850) that puzzle me. One is that it has two 8-pin CPU power connectors - is that just cuz of the power draw or is one redundant? Every video I watched only had the one. The other is, there's a PCIe power connector on the board itself, not just the graphics card. What is that for?
Anonymous No.106111530 [Report] >>106111558 >>106111560 >>106111596 >>106111607
Look good? Anything I should change? First time build
Anonymous No.106111558 [Report] >>106111652 >>106112159
>>106111530
>1000w titanium
9070 is that power hungry?
Anonymous No.106111560 [Report] >>106111652
>>106111530
No reason to not get a pcie 5.0 nvme imo
Anonymous No.106111574 [Report]
>>106110785
If you like ASUS, the XG27ACS is a nice stopping point for 1440p IPS monitors. It's miniLED or OLED after that imo.

>>106110879
They will perform about the same in gaming, I would get the Ryzen 7700 if you don't need the improved AVX 512 performance in the Ryzen 9000 CPUs.

>>106111184
I'd say it's a decent price for that card.
Anonymous No.106111596 [Report] >>106111652 >>106112159
>>106111530
overkill and overpriced psu
850w should be enough
save some money on psu and get better case
Anonymous No.106111607 [Report] >>106111652 >>106111728 >>106112159
>>106111357
>One is that it has two 8-pin CPU power connectors - is that just cuz of the power draw or is one redundant?
The additional 4-pin EPS cable for the CPU is to provide more power for overclocking, maybe it splits the current load to help run the PSU more power efficiently.

>The other is, there's a PCIe power connector on the board itself, not just the graphics card. What is that for?
I'm not sure either, let us know the board model.

>>106111530
You don't need a 1000W Titanium PSU for that system. A 750~850W Gold-rated unit is good enough.
Anonymous No.106111635 [Report] >>106111658 >>106111678 >>106113540
>steam hardware is out
>9060xt, 9070, and 9070xt are still missing
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.106111652 [Report] >>106111690 >>106112159
>>106111560
other than the retardedly high cost and lack of actual use-cases for it? If you need to ask for advice on a build, you have no business buying top end nvme gen5 m.2s. None.

Gen 4 samsung M.2s are still peak. Samsung 990 pro user here, love it.

>>106111558
>>106111596
>>106111607
these clowns are autists who irrationally seethe at the idea of a high-end psu. There is nothing wrong with buying an overkill psu, none, the cost is negligible, and a good psu will last you multiple builds and will not need to be replaced until the cables become outdated and future gpus have a new meme-connection that ruin your psu.

Also get a second ssd/m.2 for storage space, and a better case, full-towers will fit any ridiculous-sized gpu you can throw at it no problem, plus you get more room to move with AIOs.

Also 32gigs is at the low-end of convenience at this point, i suggest 48gigs as the new minimum for extended pc usage without needing to restart to clear the ram cache every ~5 hours.
Anonymous No.106111658 [Report] >>106111670 >>106112874 >>106113540
>>106111635
>5090 alone has outsold the entire RDNA4 lineup
LMAO, gamers want real performance, not garbage gimmicks
Anonymous No.106111662 [Report] >>106111703
>>106105481
>the brutal fact that a high end gpu will hold value and your displays/monitors value will tank insanely much in value needs not to be said
displays/monitors do not lose value, because the vast majority of them do not degrade or take damage unless you boughted into the OLED meme.

They work, until you get bored of the ones you have and buy more 95% of the time. Retarded statement really, but considering you're unironically telling people to buy the most obscenely overpriced gpu in gaming history, the 5090, because 4k is 'better', no surprise at all.
Anonymous No.106111670 [Report] >>106111695 >>106111751 >>106111759
>>106111658
>gamers want real performance, not garbage gimmicks
Then why would they buy Njudea? Njudea is nothing but shitty gimmicks. Its literally their mission-objective.

>>106111357
The other is, there's a PCIe power connector on the board itself, not just the graphics card. What is that for?
thats to power the ram, the storage drives, and the pcie slots themselves.
Anonymous No.106111672 [Report] >>106111683 >>106111693 >>106112586
>>106110338
You would have to a complete retard to buy an AMD GPU when they dont have an alternative to HDR, Video HDR, and their super resolution alternative is dogshit.
Anonymous No.106111674 [Report] >>106111693 >>106113285 >>106113351
Monitors always was 10-15% of box+monitor+keyboard+mouse+sound (basic stuff) combo. It was the rule, even in guides.

But nowadays I see lots of people buying OLED monitors for cheap builds. OLED will cost 15% the price of build only with high end 5090 builds.

Why?
Anonymous No.106111678 [Report] >>106111695 >>106111699 >>106111713 >>106113597
>>106111635
>steam hardware
>majority of users are still using intel processors
>people are buying gimped 8GB VRAM cards in 2025
I'm starting to think that the average computer gamer is a fucking retard
Anonymous No.106111683 [Report] >>106111710
>>106111672
>when they dont have an alternative to HDR, Video HDR
HDR is already a meme and has shit implementation on 99% of games and monitors
>buy a $1000 monitor for good HDR!
>so you can play it in like 2 games
>THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT YOU SHOULD NEVER BUY AMD BECAUSE OF THIS
ok lol
Anonymous No.106111690 [Report] >>106111719
>>106111652
>cost is negligible
spoken like a real burger
for some people money are the issue
Anonymous No.106111693 [Report] >>106111710 >>106111716
>>106111674
people buying OLEDs are almost as ridiculous as you telling people how to budget their monitor into their pc build. This is stupid.

You pick your chosen monitor first, and build your pc around its needs in order to make the most of its fps-potential. That is the only smart approach.

>>106111672
HDR is dogshit trash and a shitty meme. I don't want bright lights on my monitor eye-raping irritating me when watching things just because of muh realism. Muh Autism more like.
Anonymous No.106111695 [Report] >>106111719
>>106111670
>>106111678
>92 market share
outside of india absolutely no one is buying AMD gpus, a 3070 TI an 8gb card from 2020 performs similarly to the 9060 XT and the 9070
Anonymous No.106111699 [Report] >>106111754
>>106111678
People are just poor and retarded.

Most people are changing their PC once in 6-7 years, so they still on 8-9-10 gen of Intel, which was good. Good AMD is recent 2-3 years meme.
Anonymous No.106111703 [Report] >>106111719
>>106111662
>ultrawide
meme absolute garbage
Anonymous No.106111710 [Report] >>106111719 >>106111746
>>106111693
>>106111683
>im unironically too dumb to use HDR properly
dumb jeets
Anonymous No.106111713 [Report]
>>106111678
i really wish there was a way to filter people exclusively playing f2pslop
im not interested in people having intel rigs from 15 years ago
Anonymous No.106111716 [Report]
>>106111693
> You pick your chosen monitor first, and build your pc around its needs in order to make the most of its fps-potential. That is the only smart approach.
It's not.
You should always think of balance.
Anonymous No.106111719 [Report] >>106111732 >>106111767 >>106113340
>>106111690
buying another psu in ~4 years costs way more than spending an extra $50-100 bucks for one that will last you a decade+. Its expensive being a poorfag with no concept of 'future-proofing'. Are you brown aswell as poor?

>>106111695
Ranjeesh i must say, its pretty cringe watching you attack your people here for pay. Stop shilling, its pathetic.

>>106111703
if you haven't used one, you will never know the glory of ultrawide, you are prey-mind.

>>106111710
oh? and how do you 'use it properly'? do you buy a 4k monitor and overpay for meme-gimmicks? if i was that stupid i'd buy Njudean gpus.
Anonymous No.106111720 [Report]
what's the point of buying 9700x over 9600x?
I don't do much of CPU work that would benefit from more threads
Anonymous No.106111728 [Report] >>106112342
>>106111607
MSI B850 Gaming Plus Wifi

Additional question:

My PSU came with x2 8-pin-to-x2(6+2) pin cables and x1 16-pin-to-x2(6+2) cable. I can't figure out if I should use the 16 pin and one of the others, or the other two. The 16-pin plugs into some separate 12V socket but is marked for PCIe. I cant tell if it's ok to mix it with another cable or not.
Anonymous No.106111732 [Report] >>106112045
>>106111719
My brother has one, it's great for arpgs only. Everything else it's trash and he hates it. You are a gay shill.
Anonymous No.106111733 [Report] >>106111747
>>106110178
X800 series boards are absolute dogshit full of Pcie bifurcation issues your pcie lanes are useless and your Gpu will run at x8 if you run any pcie nvme
Anonymous No.106111746 [Report] >>106111773
>>106111710
>not being a jeet is when you overpay for a monitor feature that most games don't support
k
Anonymous No.106111747 [Report] >>106111787
>>106111733
What's the solution then?
Anonymous No.106111751 [Report]
>>106111670
Does it matter which power cable I use for it? I have two 8-pin cables and one 16-pin cable, with the 16-pin socket being separately marked as "12V-2x6".
Anonymous No.106111754 [Report] >>106111821 >>106112563
>>106111699
>>Good AMD
literally a non existant meme, if anything they market share and steam hardware survey representation was the lowest it ever been last year.

The reallity is that most of the people that have disposable income to afford an expensive GPU or upgrade their PC'S need cuda support and python libraries if they ever want to do anything outside of gaming , ROCCM support is so bad that your best shot at running anything important is ZLUDA which emulates CUDA
Anonymous No.106111759 [Report]
>>106111670
5090 offers the real performance gamers want, POODNA4 cannot compete
Anonymous No.106111767 [Report]
>>106111719
aight, nostradamus
It will last you until nvidia release another 20 pin connector
because nothing else needs that much power
Anonymous No.106111773 [Report]
>>106111746
HDR video works outside of gaming and it takes 2 libraries plugins to force it or any DX12 or DX11 game if you are not dumb jeet incapable of using them.
Anonymous No.106111779 [Report] >>106111795 >>106112045 >>106113304
>i5-12400f
>4070Super
>48GB ram (2x8 + 2x16) that's all 3200hz I think
My CPU is choking, I can see my GPU at 40% usage while my CPU sits at 100% the whole time I'm running stuff.

I tried looking up upgrades but everything looks... Marginal?
12th gen upgrades are like 8-12% faster.
13th gen and beyond apparently don't run properly on W10LTSC so what's the point?
Also I don't want to swap mobos.
So I'm kinda stumped here.
Anonymous No.106111787 [Report] >>106111808
>>106111747
There is no solution unless you wanna shell out for a older X670 zen 4 series board and just update the bios
Anonymous No.106111795 [Report]
>>106111779
>intel
>same platform upgrades
ngmi
Anonymous No.106111808 [Report] >>106111846 >>106111872 >>106113974
>>106111787
Legit? I don't mind if it gets me a better system. Is this one a good pick? What are the downsides compared to an 850/870?
Anonymous No.106111821 [Report] >>106113296
>>106111754
>if they ever want to do anything outside of gaming
that's the literal 1% of the population you're talking about. there's no need for cuda support when all AI you'll ever need is available free online
Anonymous No.106111846 [Report]
>>106111808
>MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI
Excellent choice buddy my best mate has the same board been running issue free for over 2 years now and he runs 3 nvme's in it with no issue There's really no downsides unless you care about USB4 and wifi 7 if you want that you might have to spend a little extra but i i don't think it's worth it
Anonymous No.106111857 [Report]
I've also had no issues running multiple Nvme drives in my system either and im running x670E as well
Anonymous No.106111859 [Report] >>106112058
My RX 580 died and I'm looking for suggestions on what to replace it with.
I only really play TF2 in 1080, so I don't think it's worth putting together a whole new system.
Should I grab an RX 6600 for $220?
Anonymous No.106111872 [Report]
>>106111808
I also prefer the older Asus Tuf x670e board compared to the new one
Anonymous No.106111882 [Report] >>106111906 >>106111910
i just realised my 980ti turned 10 years old last month, fucking blew my mind when i saw that, made me want to puke a little bit
is there a really cheap card i could get that would be a sizeable upgrade for gayming?
Anonymous No.106111906 [Report]
>>106111882
an rtx 5050 would be a sizable upgrade for gaming for you, a 9060xt 16GB even bigger
Anonymous No.106111910 [Report]
>>106111882
>is there a really cheap card i could get that would be a sizeable upgrade for gayming
How cheap we talking?
Anonymous No.106112028 [Report] >>106112062 >>106112078
Thoughts on below builds. Looking to get 5070ti

https://ozb.techfast.com.au/products/Desktop-PC-AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D-RTX-5070-Ti-16GB-TAXBACK
>ausfag site
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Processor Cooling: DeepCool Ag400 Air Cooler
Case: Antec P20C ARGB Black Mid Tower E-ATX Case
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M Gaming Plus WiFi Motherboard
Graphics Card: Palit Gaming Pro RTX 5070 Ti 16GB
Memory: BiWin Opal 32GB [6000MHz]
SSD : Klevv 5000R 2TB Gen 4 NVMe M.2
Power Supply: 750W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply

$1500 USD
Could potentially go for a 240mm Liquid Cooler or Upgrade the power supply to Gold 750/850?

or

https://www.nebulapc.com.au/products/crush (After selecting PNY 5070ti)
>Ausfag prices once again
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Processor Cooling:DeepCool AK400 Air Cooler
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 120A AIRFLOW ATX Case
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI
Graphics Card: PNY NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
Memory: KLEVV FIT V 32GB
SSD : 2TB Lexar NQ790 Gen4 M.2
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL 750W 80+ Gold

$1680 USD
Maybe similar upgrades from base aircooler?
Anonymous No.106112030 [Report]
>graphics card maker doesnt want me to use splitter cables
>not enough PSU slots if I dont
I dunno what they want me to do. People have been using splitter cables forever anyway, what's the problem?
Anonymous No.106112045 [Report] >>106112247
>>106111732
i play dozens of different games and outside of low-pixel indie slop the extra widescreen resolution is nothing but pure benefit. Sorry you have an untermensch for a brother, a swine unhappy about the pearls he's consuming. He did get one that was at least 144hz though i presume? the early ones had poor hz-ranges which weren't ideal.

>>106111779
>48GB ram (2x8 + 2x16) that's all 3200hz I think
wtf is that? are you mixing your fucking ram sticks? are you retarded?
Anonymous No.106112058 [Report]
>>106111859
i pity you. Go buy a console, you don't belong here.
Anonymous No.106112062 [Report] >>106112074 >>106112103
>>106112028
Why are you pairing an Nvidia card with an AMD system just get a 9070XT and take advantage of SAM which gives you a real performance boost unlike Rebar which does fuck all
Anonymous No.106112074 [Report] >>106112085 >>106112089 >>106112103
>>106112062
he probably needs to do something with his PC outside of gaming lmao
Anonymous No.106112078 [Report] >>106112103
>>106112028
the second one of the 2 is far better, the first one is a gpu that is held back by literally every other component. The Cpu will thermal-throttle in that shitty cooler aswell. And the entire system will short out with a shitty no-name brand bronze-tier psu.
Anonymous No.106112085 [Report]
>>106112074
he's linking prebuilds with no idea what makes one better than the other outside of the gpu model. No he is not doing anything but gaming, at least not for 10 minutes before giving up.
Anonymous No.106112089 [Report] >>106112094 >>106112102
>>106112074
>he probably needs to do something with his PC outside of gaming lmao
Is your brain so cooked that you only think people with nvidia cards are doing work with there computer go get actual help
Anonymous No.106112094 [Report]
>>106112089
every professional I know uses an RTX pro card, AMD is a nonstarter
Anonymous No.106112102 [Report]
>>106112089
I literally use my system for color correction work and video editing what more lies are you going to tell
Anonymous No.106112103 [Report] >>106112115
>>106112078
Apprecaite that and yeah, i see what you mean.

>>106112062
How about this then?

Nebula N5 mATX - Black [NEBULA-N5-RGB-BLK]
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME B650M-A WIFI II-CSM DDR5
RAM: BIWIN Opal HX100 32GB
PRIMARY SSD: 1TB BIWIN M350 Gen4 M.2
GPU: XFX Swift AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT - 16GB
POWER SUPPLY: Inwin P75F 750W 80+ Gold
Support - CPU COOLING SYSTEM: NZXT Kraken 240mm Liquid Cooler

Going with 9070xt and better cooling?

>>106112074
Moooostly gaming
Anonymous No.106112115 [Report] >>106112181
>>106112103
>240mm AIO
>noname garbage SSD
be a man, build it yourself
Anonymous No.106112147 [Report] >>106112151
for ddr5 ram is it worth worrying about cl30 vs cl34 or cl36? mostly gaming and some coding
Anonymous No.106112151 [Report]
>>106112147
get 6000cl30
Anonymous No.106112159 [Report] >>106112373 >>106113320 >>106113333
>>106111652
>>106111558
>>106111596
>>106111607
Thoughts?
Anonymous No.106112177 [Report]
Anyone have the Fractal Design North mesh version? Are you able to see through the mesh at all? Planning on getting one either way but I'd like for it to be pretty opaque. Also how do you like the case in general if you have one?
Anonymous No.106112181 [Report] >>106112196 >>106112279
>>106112115
Price comes the same or cheaper with prebuilds.
Anonymous No.106112196 [Report]
>>106112181
by getting cheaped out on parts they can hide
Anonymous No.106112247 [Report] >>106112279
>>106112045
>are you mixing your fucking ram sticks
no
there's 4 slots, ABAB. The 2x8 are on A and 2x16 are on B.
that's still "dual channel" afaik
>inb4 why
Blender and Unreal scenes get RAM heavy
Anonymous No.106112279 [Report] >>106112748
>>106112247
>he doesnt think mixing his ram sticks is mixing his ram sticks
jesus christ anon. on a Scale of 1 to 10, how autistic are you? im guessing 15.

>>106112181
m.2s/ssds with no dram cache are terrible and have a much worse life-span in practical terms compared to ones with, be careful and shop around to make sure you're buying drives with dram caches. Even physical drives have dram caches for buffering.
Anonymous No.106112338 [Report]
>>106110031 (OP)
Release the 9600x3d already!!!
Anonymous No.106112342 [Report] >>106112468
>>106111728
>MSI B850 Gaming Plus Wifi
That additional 8-pin PCIe power connector in the motherboard is included for multi-GPU configs, it supplements the 24-pin ATX power connector.

Your PSU question, I would go with the x2 8-pin-to-x2(6+2) pin cables since this is the more common cable to use for video cards that only require 2x 8-pin (2+6) power connection.
The PSU manual might give you a better idea.
Anonymous No.106112373 [Report] >>106112409
>>106112159
It's good, Corsair errs on the safer side for their higher-end PSUs.
Their 80+ Gold-certified RMx units can pass the Platinum efficiency requirements because they prefer to overspec these PSUs.
Anonymous No.106112409 [Report]
>>106112373
Not all of them afaik
Their Japanese twitter gave an example of their 850w gold having about 97% that can pass platinum standard while the worst 3% couldn't do they advertise gold certification as a minimum bar of what to expect from any random unit of that model
Anonymous No.106112424 [Report] >>106112502 >>106112508 >>106112512
any titanium PSU chads?
Anonymous No.106112468 [Report] >>106112652
>>106112342
Ok, well I only have one GPU (9070 XT) so I guess I can unplug it from the motherboard and use it on the GPU instead. Or should I use all three cables for the GPU? The manufacturer seems to think splitter cables are bad, though Im not knowledgeable as to what theyre concerned about.
Anonymous No.106112502 [Report] >>106112545
>>106112424
Use case?
Anonymous No.106112508 [Report] >>106112512 >>106114505
>>106112424
You're outdated lil bro
Anonymous No.106112512 [Report]
>>106112424
im a mere platinum psu owner, FSP hydro white power 1000w version.

>>106112508
no fuckin way, they made ANOTHER tier above titanium??
Anonymous No.106112524 [Report]
>>106110613
They are not really worse than the garbage the taiwanese jews are releasing today.
Anonymous No.106112527 [Report] >>106112535 >>106112631
Why are gpu companies so stingy with vram? Is it that much more expensive?
Anonymous No.106112535 [Report]
>>106112527
So companies are forced to buy their high end shit instead of consumer rtx cards for workstations
Anonymous No.106112545 [Report]
>>106112502
flexing on silverpoors and goldjeets
Anonymous No.106112563 [Report]
>>106111754
> people that have disposable income to afford an expensive GPU or upgrade their PC'S need cuda support and python libraries
What for? Never used that.
Anonymous No.106112575 [Report] >>106112686
I buy a computer part and then see 10 billion negative reviews. This happens every time
Anonymous No.106112586 [Report]
>>106111672
Kys retard you get the best HDR for any game regardless what gpu you have by getting a mod, specifically RenoDX HDR. That RTX ai shit is inferior so who cares.
Anonymous No.106112592 [Report] >>106112624 >>106112855
I have a RX 9070 XT gpu and it needs 2 x 8 pin connectors. My Psu includes 2 plce 8 pins and one dual pcle 2 x 8 pins cables. Should I use the dual or the two cables? Does it even matter?
Anonymous No.106112595 [Report]
There are too many computer components and companies. There should be 3 of each part released each year (a cheap one, normal one, and an expensive one) and they should have normal names and all work together.
Anonymous No.106112598 [Report] >>106112742
When they make a 100% efficiency PSU or at least 99.99%, they'll call the perfect rating 100 Plus. Got to deal with the copyright problem first though...
Anonymous No.106112624 [Report]
>>106112592
Generally avoid using split cables
Anonymous No.106112626 [Report]
Looking for a 27in 1440p recommendation. I have(had) a triple monitor setup with a 32in 4k OLED in the center and 2 27in 1440ps flanking it on the sides. One of the two just died. I think I'm okay with just the main OLED and IPS on the sides? Not sure if there's much point to having the 27inches also be OLED, I'm guessing I'd get burn-in from the browser/chat always up.
Anonymous No.106112627 [Report]
I'm not paying 140 dollars for windows just to still get ads and be spied on. Hopefully Linux gets better for gaming soon
Anonymous No.106112631 [Report]
>>106112527
vram is dirt cheap, like $3/GB cheap
Anonymous No.106112637 [Report] >>106113568 >>106113601
H150i pro I bought in 2023 is starting to hit liquid temps of 60 C and giving me red lights, so I guess time to build again. Idling now at 46 with just a browser open.
Anonymous No.106112652 [Report] >>106112761
>>106112468
Use all three 8 pin (6+2) for the video card.
Anonymous No.106112683 [Report]
I hate fake frames
Anonymous No.106112686 [Report]
>>106112575
9.9 billion of those are from weirdos who can't use a computer or got unlucky and received a lemon
Anonymous No.106112718 [Report] >>106112732 >>106112779
I spent all that time fussing with this AIO, finally got it bolted down, but I just realized it was probably for naught because the thermal paste is probably compromised from all the movement to get it on there. Fuck me.

Fuck it, Im not doing it again. If it overheats Ill pull my old trick of blasting a room fan directly into the case.
Anonymous No.106112732 [Report] >>106112743 >>106112755
>>106112718
liquid freezer iii pro?
Anonymous No.106112742 [Report]
>>106112598
They're changing the focus to efficiency at lower loads
Anonymous No.106112743 [Report] >>106112769
>>106112732
is that the best?
Anonymous No.106112748 [Report]
>>106112279
Blender/UE scenes need, capacity since I got 48GB I haven't had issues like when I was on 16GB.
Afaik the different pairs should be fine as long as the pairs themselves are matching.
Anonymous No.106112755 [Report]
>>106112732
Yeah
Anonymous No.106112761 [Report]
>>106112652
Does it matter that one of them is a 12V 2x6 at the PSU end?
Anonymous No.106112769 [Report]
>>106112743
near the best on charts but has a horrible mounting system i heard
Anonymous No.106112779 [Report] >>106112806
>>106112718
I've heard so many bad things about it, even when gamers nexus tried to show off installing it they struggled. Don't know why it gets shilled so much when it's clearly a shoddy untested product.
Anonymous No.106112794 [Report] >>106113143
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
Anonymous No.106112803 [Report] >>106112906
>amdschizo is once again seething as the steam hardware survey reveals no one wants their terrible gpu's
Anonymous No.106112806 [Report]
>>106112779
From what I understand, the AIO itself is great. Literally the only problem is bolting the pump assembly down. Mine slipped off at one point and I had to fiddle it all over the place to find the thread again. I have no idea what that did to the thermal paste but Im not fucking doing it all over again right now.
Anonymous No.106112824 [Report]
Will I get VRAM cucked using an 8GB 5060 on a PCI-E 4.0 motherboard? I'd be playing games at 1080p.
Anonymous No.106112835 [Report] >>106112839 >>106112845 >>106113143
so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.
Anonymous No.106112839 [Report]
>>106112835
nobody believes you nicotroon
Anonymous No.106112845 [Report]
>>106112835
you should build an alienware
Anonymous No.106112849 [Report] >>106112861
>two GeForce owner having issues
>this sends nviditroon into a blind rage to the point xhe starts ranting about schizos
lol, you don’t look like a raving fanboy lunatic at all
Anonymous No.106112855 [Report]
>>106112592
you use both cables, my 7900xtx uses 3x8 pins, i used 2 of one cable and one of the other, its fine, you spread out the power draw better this way, the gpu+psu handles the power spikes better this way, and less constant power draw on a single cable+socket.
Anonymous No.106112861 [Report]
>>106112849
he is indeed a raving fanboy lunatic, but to be fair, thats a schizo-ritual poster seeking attention who made those 2 posts, they get posted in every new general.
Anonymous No.106112867 [Report] >>106112876 >>106113143
I'm at a loss. 5090 Astral for damn near four grand and the drivers just won't fucking work. Every game I open works for a few minutes then just a blackscreen. Help me pls.
Anonymous No.106112874 [Report]
>>106111658
That's crazy. With how much media attention radeon gets, you'd think they had at least outsold the halo product rtx5090 that exists for PR only and nobody is supposed to buy
Anonymous No.106112876 [Report]
>>106112867
Bad PSU
Anonymous No.106112906 [Report] >>106113181
>>106112803
I play esports so I need the highest fps possible. Impossible with ShartForce driver overhead stealing 20 percent of the cpu performance sorry not sorry kys
Anonymous No.106112909 [Report] >>106112918 >>106112919 >>106113333
I'm planning on upgrading to 9800x3d from i7 9700ik
the best motherboard that he has to offer for am5 is this one : MSI PRO B850-P WIFI DDR5

and the best memory is something like this : DDR5 32GO 6000MHZ CL38 ADATA XPG (2x 16gb kit I believe)

are these good enough parts or should I look somewhere else for the MB and memory
Anonymous No.106112918 [Report] >>106112920 >>106112925
>>106112909
buy intel
Anonymous No.106112919 [Report] >>106112925
>>106112909
the board is fine, try to find CL30 6000 if you can
Anonymous No.106112920 [Report]
>>106112918
until intel gets its shit together, don't do this
Anonymous No.106112925 [Report] >>106112940 >>106112948
>>106112918
fuck that
the 9700k is barely better than the i7 4790k that I previously had, also I heard their latest cpus are all broken or something.

>>106112919
in algeria where I live I couldn't find that anywhere near me at a a cheap price, that kit costs the equivalent of 200 dollars (the cpu is more or less 800)
Anonymous No.106112940 [Report]
>>106112925
If it's significantly cheaper, CL30 vs CL38 won't matter much for gaming.
Anonymous No.106112948 [Report]
>>106112925
Yeah they're all broken. Plus they're shoving atom cores down our throats and saying that it helps background tasks as if normal cores can't do that and do it better
Anonymous No.106112961 [Report] >>106112966
BIOS would reset everytime I unplug it from the outlet. Thought it was just a shitty CMOS battery so I replaced that but it still resets everytime I unplug it. Mobo is a Gigabyte B850 aorus elite
Anonymous No.106112966 [Report]
>>106112961
Mobo might have a defective capacitor somewhere
Best to rma it
Anonymous No.106112994 [Report]
>>106110975
Please actually respond or I'm going to ask AI and believe it.
Anonymous No.106112998 [Report] >>106113023
Any decent portable harddrives, or are they all the same these days?
Anonymous No.106113000 [Report] >>106113022
Im gaming on WiFi, and using an ethernet cable is not possible for now. Should I get a motherboard with WiFi 7 in this case? Is there a huge difference between WiFi 6e and 7? I do have a router, but I don't wanna use a huge ass cable that goes through the whole house
Anonymous No.106113022 [Report] >>106113120
>>106113000
WF7 doesn't works under Win 10, also your router also needs to be able to use Wifi7 for full speed
And also it depends on your general internet speed, if it's slow, then it probably won't change anything
Anonymous No.106113023 [Report]
>>106112998
Make sure it's an SSD , external hdds are so fragile
Anonymous No.106113037 [Report] >>106113050 >>106113071
Hm. 53 resting temp. You think I did fuck up the paste?
Anonymous No.106113050 [Report]
>>106113037
That's normal if it's an x3d
Anonymous No.106113071 [Report] >>106113081
>>106113037
my 7950X is idle at 70 right now
Anonymous No.106113081 [Report]
>>106113071
Jesus
Anonymous No.106113110 [Report] >>106113115 >>106113145
First build ever. Took me 9 hours of autistic fiddling and fretting but it booted up perfectly first time I hit the power. No troubleshooting required. Set the RAM to match its specs, made sure everything was running properly, now installing Windows.

Not a big deal to you guys Im sure but hey, I learned how to do something new this week. Can most normies say the same?
Anonymous No.106113115 [Report]
>>106113110
Cool, enjoy your new build fren
Anonymous No.106113119 [Report] >>106113145
The more I look, the more I think it might actually be cheaper to buy a prebuilt if you're going for an RTX 5090. These scalpers are nuts.
Anonymous No.106113120 [Report] >>106113145
>>106113022
I don't mind win11, since I'll use a debloated version. My router does support it. My Internet speed is 4 GBit/s. So it's a good choice for me I guess
Anonymous No.106113143 [Report] >>106113158 >>106113162
>>106112794
>>106112835
>>106112867
Wow so has nvidia quality really degraded this much? 1060 owner here, I was looking at 5060 ti but I guess im going 9060 xt now.
Anonymous No.106113145 [Report]
>>106113119
Take note that they will usually put inside the lowest possible model, i.e. some ventus and windforce, which are pretty bad in terms of temps and noise
>>106113120
Should be a nice upgrade then.
>>106113110
good work fren, you probably should update BIOS too
Anonymous No.106113158 [Report]
>>106113143
it's the same guy posting those same pictures in every thread
Anonymous No.106113162 [Report] >>106113178
>>106113143
>falling for the shill spammer
grim, he's just upset his 9070XT is less powerful than a 5090
Anonymous No.106113173 [Report] >>106113180 >>106113182 >>106113191
What sort of case should I get to impress women?
Anonymous No.106113178 [Report] >>106113207 >>106113219
>>106113162
>a 2500$ card is better than a 700$ one!
Retard
Anonymous No.106113180 [Report]
>>106113173
One with wood.
Anonymous No.106113181 [Report] >>106113188
>>106112906
>I play esports
The best CS2 players in the world are using GeForce cards.
Anonymous No.106113182 [Report] >>106113245
>>106113173
lian li O11 dynamic EVO XL
Anonymous No.106113188 [Report]
>>106113181
this post is gonna make nicotroon dilate like nothing else
Anonymous No.106113191 [Report] >>106116437
>>106113173
Hyte Y70 hoshimachi suisei edition
Anonymous No.106113205 [Report]
The 11 fans blasting away in this case really sell the beast rig feel
Anonymous No.106113207 [Report]
>>106113178
>2 of 3 fud posts mentioning the 5090
Exactly, he just wishes he could afford one
Anonymous No.106113219 [Report] >>106113275
>>106113178
jealous poorfag that is upset he has to settle with Radeon garbage in his Indian slum
Anonymous No.106113237 [Report] >>106113323
>Thread has a new boogeyman but this time its "nicotroon" for nvidiot fanboys
Dlss schizo isnt real, the amd schizo isnt real and all you retards need to take your meds and get a life outside of this thread
Anonymous No.106113245 [Report]
>>106113182
not half bad looking
Anonymous No.106113248 [Report]
>posts the exact same shit but stopped avatarfagging
it’s so obviously you nicotroon, you still use the same OP
Anonymous No.106113263 [Report] >>106113269
Why doesn't the jenny ban them both? They're both not stopping
Anonymous No.106113269 [Report]
>>106113263
That is the janny
Anonymous No.106113275 [Report] >>106113297 >>106113305
>>106113219
If you spend 2500 on a GPU you are a sucker. A whale. A paypig. You are nothing but a pathetic green team tribal faggot.

Nvidia will never temper their prices if you retards keep paying them.
Anonymous No.106113279 [Report] >>106113290
there’s only one person who spams blatantly fake fanboy garbage
Anonymous No.106113285 [Report]
>>106111674
That's a man.
Anonymous No.106113290 [Report]
>>106113279
And you're the only person giving him attention so he keeps going. Don't feed trolls retard
Anonymous No.106113296 [Report]
>>106111821
>when all AI you'll ever need
1. it's censored
2. it's not free
3. it's a privacy hazard
Anonymous No.106113297 [Report] >>106113307
>>106113275
totally not dilating about superior NVIDIA performance btw
Anonymous No.106113304 [Report] >>106113344
>>106111779
>marginal
i5-14600K would not be a marginal upgrade.
>13th gen and beyond apparently don't run properly on W10LTSC
Source?
Anonymous No.106113305 [Report]
>>106113275
I have the money, and I want the performance.
Anonymous No.106113307 [Report] >>106113330
>>106113297
>superior NVIDIA melting
FTFY
Anonymous No.106113320 [Report]
>>106112159
It's good. Good audio on that motherboard too.
Anonymous No.106113323 [Report]
>>106113237
Evil spreads if good men do nothing
Anonymous No.106113330 [Report]
>>106113307
>playing wuchang
sounds like they got what they deserved
Anonymous No.106113333 [Report] >>106113726
>>106112909
>MSI PRO B850-P WIFI DDR5
Do you have external DAC or sound card? Because that mobo has ALC897, which is dogshit.
Get Asus TUF GAMING B850-PLUS like this anon >>106112159
Anonymous No.106113340 [Report]
>>106111719
Nice try but I'm not cutting off the top and bottom portions of my 43" 4k to get a 34" ultrawide where I see less and it's lower resolution.. That would be retarded! Retard aspect ratio! Retard end-user!
Anonymous No.106113344 [Report] >>106113367
>>106113304
don't the e-cores not run as well?
Anonymous No.106113351 [Report]
>>106111674
Standards change and you are poor and have fallen behind massively and now just cope
Anonymous No.106113367 [Report]
>>106113344
In practical terms, Win10 is actually faster than Win11 in games when VBS is disabled. It's more smooth on low% FPS too.

But if you do heavy multi-threading like rendering, then yeah Win10 e-core management is behind Win11.
Anonymous No.106113432 [Report] >>106113750 >>106113761
I'm gonna do it.
Anonymous No.106113445 [Report] >>106113450 >>106113466 >>106113470
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8TtTM
I think I'm going for this system. Any feedback? Im considering gaming on a 4k oled, but I could also choose for one of the best 4k IPS panels.
Anonymous No.106113450 [Report] >>106113466
>>106113445
you only need 16 GB RAM
Anonymous No.106113466 [Report]
>>106113445
<
>>106113450
please don't misguide
Anonymous No.106113470 [Report] >>106113496 >>106113646
>>106113445
>4k gaming
>with anything but a 5090
ngmi
Anonymous No.106113496 [Report]
>>106113470
I think I will.
Anonymous No.106113512 [Report]
>COLORFIRE B650M-MEOW
I'm sorry, what?
Anonymous No.106113527 [Report] >>106113541 >>106113618
Is this a good idea?
Anonymous No.106113540 [Report]
>>106111635
>>106111658
These were the first brand war tribal posts of the thread. The nvidiot famboys are the ones inciting the flamewars every thread then crying about brand warring when people start shitposting about GeForce in retaliation. The njudeam cries out in pain as he strikes you. My gpu is a 4080 btw, just sick of these fanboys sucking jensens cock in these threads 24/7 and scapegoating radeon owners for why the thread is shit
Anonymous No.106113541 [Report] >>106113612
>>106113527
I avoid anything with ASrock. Even if they fixed it, I'm just NOT gonna risk it.
Anonymous No.106113568 [Report]
>>106112637
>I bought in 2023
That's way too soon. At least another year. Sorry you got a borderline bad unit.
Anonymous No.106113597 [Report] >>106113614
>>106111678
Steam doesn't filter out the third worlders.
Anonymous No.106113601 [Report]
>>106112637
dont these come with a 5 year warranty? rma and get a new unit
Anonymous No.106113612 [Report]
>>106113541
I love my asrock b450 and I will buy asrock again when am6 comes out. I'm skipping am5 completely so this isn't my problem
Anonymous No.106113614 [Report] >>106113619
>>106113597
Yes and thats why GeForce marketshsre is so high. If only first world countries were counted it would be much closer to 50-50
Anonymous No.106113618 [Report] >>106113631
>>106113527
>1 star
What does the review say?
Anonymous No.106113619 [Report] >>106113648 >>106113655
>>106113614
why can't amd supply enough cards for the whole world? missed opportunity imo
Anonymous No.106113631 [Report] >>106113738
>>106113618
Anonymous No.106113646 [Report]
>>106113470
I played in 4k on my 760gtx, 1050ti, 3060 12gb. You just don't play games it won't run above 45fps. It's that simple. The 3060 played red dead 2 in 4k with high settings 60fps with the power of dlss. The gtx760 played css and dota 2 and skyrim and new vegas in 4k no problem. Now my 9070xt plays cyberpunk in 4k on high raytracing at 60fps. I don't get why you guys are so afraid of 4k. The games like cs2 where you need high framerates are already optimized anyway and the graphically intensive games are all single player. The whole 4k is hard thing is a meme.
Anonymous No.106113648 [Report] >>106113662
>>106113619
Radeon is an Aryans first brand. PooForce is for mudskins all over the world.
Anonymous No.106113655 [Report]
>>106113619
It's that the 3rd worlders all buy used 1060s, 2060s, and 3060s
Anonymous No.106113662 [Report] >>106113703
>>106113648
Germany is the most cucked western country in the world that can't even question the holocaust. Its the most appropriate country to symbolize radeon features
Anonymous No.106113691 [Report] >>106113731 >>106113753 >>106113874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW8XEuVOCjs
Anonymous No.106113703 [Report]
>>106113662
>Modded in fsr4 is better than DOASS4
Uh oh
Anonymous No.106113726 [Report]
>>106113333
thank you for the suggestion anon
Anonymous No.106113731 [Report] >>106113739 >>106113753 >>106113874
>>106113691
This is how RT in UE4 behaves on rdna4 that radeon users aren't telling you
Anonymous No.106113738 [Report]
>>106113631
A cursory google search only returns a german reddit post with the same complaint. Likely the same person who left the review given that it came from Mindfactory and therefore it's unlikely to be a widespread issue. That said, it's still
>ASRock
so it's a roll of the die. I personally haven't heard of a CPU that was only used on an updated motherboard dying but that may be ignorance on my part. If you do try it I'd flash the newest BIOS before installing the CPU, provided that motherboard has that functionality.
Anonymous No.106113739 [Report] >>106113809
>>106113731
What games are unreal engine 4?
Anonymous No.106113750 [Report] >>106113761
>>106113432
REEEEE YOU'RE BLOCKING AIRFLOW
Anonymous No.106113753 [Report] >>106113874
>>106113691
>>106113731
Exhibit B
Anonymous No.106113761 [Report] >>106113789
>>106113750
>>106113432
Actually since all panels are mesh, you can fit 3mm screws through it for HDD and just mount them all sideways.
Anonymous No.106113789 [Report] >>106113808
>>106113761
Put higher legs on this and you can mount intake fans externally blowing between the hdds
Anonymous No.106113808 [Report]
>>106113789
Or just lay it on the side, less stress from GPU on PCI slot too.
Anonymous No.106113809 [Report] >>106113842
>>106113739
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_that_use_Unreal_Engine_4
Anonymous No.106113818 [Report] >>106114156
The debate rages on, to consoom or not to consoom

>pg32ucdm(z) 1350$/1160€ no sale (one of the only ones I would consider buying)
>lg c4 42" 787$/679€ (starting 1865$/1600€)

not only do I feel tv will retain more value if I wanna sell it second hand but it might still be the better pc display after all this time unless something is catastrophically wrong, people say tv is bad at resolution switching or some shit or booting into bios
Anonymous No.106113842 [Report] >>106113858
>>106113809
I have ~150 games on steam and out of these I only have gal gun 2 and halo collection. I'll try gal gun 2 in vr and see what happens
Anonymous No.106113858 [Report] >>106113965
>>106113842
The issue only happens when RT is used. I doubt you'll see any problem on that game
Anonymous No.106113873 [Report]
cables are never long enough for cable management, ever, what the fuck is everyone else doing
Anonymous No.106113874 [Report] >>106113891
>>106113691
>>106113731
>>106113753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgpdFF9ppis&t=184s
>We can see that these are based off an RTX SDK from Nvidia. That is a software development kit that was provided by Nvidia, which is optimized for their RTX cores on their graphics cards, which is why when I tested these games out on the Intel B580, they also ran really bad, too. So, AMD is already at a huge disadvantage here.
>All the games that have issues are using a proprietary SDK that only works properly with Nvidia gpus
>UE 4 games like Ghostwire: Tokyo that don't use the SDK have no issue
Yet another example of njudea unfairly sabotaging their competitors performance like they did with tessellation, hairworks etc. Then their army of jeet shills and unpaid fanboys come to discussion forums like this and disingenuously misrepresent the problem to sell GeForce hardware. kys shill
Anonymous No.106113877 [Report]
Who cares about RT? That shit only has improvements in like a handful of games.
Anonymous No.106113891 [Report] >>106113932
>>106113874
Brian said it affects amd even more than it does intel. AMD does not get a free get out of jail card just because they're not nvidia.
Anonymous No.106113932 [Report] >>106113955
>>106113891
Doing only bad instead of terribly is not much of a victory and you still wouldn't want to play with these settings turned on using ARC. Probably just comes down to luck with the SDK interacting better with intels architecture than radeons or perhaps if you wanna get a bit schizo maybe there is code in the SDK specifically meant to hurt radeon performance and cause these issues. The stutters appear to be related to compiling shaders so perhaps there is something in the SDK purposely crippling how other vendors and especially radeon handle this part of the rendering process.
Anonymous No.106113939 [Report] >>106113959
OK, now I'm not sure anymore. For a gaymer who isn't really interested in AI genning, do I choose 5070Ti or 9070XT?? And who wants to game on 4k
Anonymous No.106113955 [Report]
>>106113932
Most importantly Intel doesn't have those >1000ms freezes so AMD needs to get their shit together even with how unfair it is or they will lose to njudea because of their tricks, again
Anonymous No.106113959 [Report] >>106113996 >>106114040
>>106113939
You buy 9070 XT if it is 100 dollars or more cheaper than the 5070 ti simple as.
>game on 4k
Both of these cards are better suited to 1440p but they can do 4k with some upscaling.
Anonymous No.106113965 [Report]
>>106113858
The only ray tracing game I even have is cyberpunk.
Anonymous No.106113967 [Report]
>>106110613
I'd pass
Anonymous No.106113972 [Report] >>106114001 >>106114226
RT is the first shit I turn off and I'm a nvidia fag
Anonymous No.106113974 [Report]
>>106111808
better than B850/X870, worse than X870E
Anonymous No.106113981 [Report]
>5060 TIs and 9060XTs are still going for 50-100 dollars over MSRP
Anonymous No.106113996 [Report]
>>106113959
9070 XT is 120€ cheaper for me. Guess I'm going for AMD
Anonymous No.106114001 [Report] >>106114020 >>106114027
>>106113972
foolish
Anonymous No.106114020 [Report] >>106114166
>>106114001
at best it causes lower fps
at worst it causes crashes
Anonymous No.106114027 [Report] >>106114041
>>106114001
Your GPU literally cannot boost as hard in RT games because part of the power budget of the ROPs and memory is going to the RT cores.
Anonymous No.106114040 [Report] >>106114062 >>106114064
>>106113959
when should one go for 9070 non xt?
Anonymous No.106114041 [Report] >>106114116
>>106114027
foolish to care about
Anonymous No.106114062 [Report]
>>106114040
If you care about power efficency for some reason
Anonymous No.106114064 [Report]
>>106114040
If you have balls to unlock the card and run it 35% above stock performance
Anonymous No.106114116 [Report] >>106114175
>>106114041
>lower mhz = lower fps
retard
Anonymous No.106114156 [Report] >>106114745
>>106113818
apparently if you let LG TV go into standby and auto shut off without manual shut off with the remote it will not trigger a pixel refresh and you will have to do it every time on start
Will I ever escape bad pixel refresh implementation? is this my nightmare? will it continue forever?
I'm afraid to get cucked by oleds again
the nightmare continues..
Anonymous No.106114166 [Report] >>106114271
>>106114020
>at best
At best it makes shit look good. Performancefags are the worst. Yes, better quality graphics reduce your framerate, deal with it.
Anonymous No.106114175 [Report]
>>106114116
lowering from higher fps than I need to higher fps than I need isn't the end of the world
Anonymous No.106114184 [Report] >>106114232 >>106114240 >>106114293
What's the downside of a tray version again? I could get the 7800x3d 30€ cheaper
Anonymous No.106114226 [Report]
>>106113972
>RT is the first shit I turn off and I'm a nvidia fag
>I'm a nvidia fag
Anonymous No.106114232 [Report]
>>106114184
it was licked by employees
Anonymous No.106114240 [Report] >>106114291
>>106114184
typically it means no warranty
Anonymous No.106114271 [Report]
>>106114166
>How dare someone have different preferences then me and would rather have higher fps then shiny lighting and reflections on everything
The point of pc gaming is you can change the settings how you want sperg.
Anonymous No.106114291 [Report]
>>106114240
>7600x3d
259€
>7800x3d tray
328€
>7800x3d boxed
358€

I think I'll get the tray version anyway
Anonymous No.106114293 [Report]
>>106114184
worse warranty, no cooler, and most importantly no sticker
Anonymous No.106114333 [Report] >>106114351 >>106114374
r8 mATX build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rn9yzP
GPU choice because 5070 Ti is 1.5 times as expensive here
Anonymous No.106114351 [Report] >>106114374
>>106114333
maybe get an atx3.1 compliant psu?
Anonymous No.106114374 [Report]
>>106114333
versus the Intel version, if I decide not to order mobo from across the ocean
there's no AM5 mATX mobo here with good onboard sound
Intel is $150 cheaper but everything is available locally
curious how Freezer 360 is cheaper than 240 RGB one on Partspicker, I guess plain black 240 sold out?

>>106114351
kek I thought RM850x is just upwatted version of RM750x, but I guess not. 750W should be enough.
Anonymous No.106114431 [Report] >>106114480
>>106110031 (OP)
UPS. Why do they exists?

>But blackouts
I sleep and when I wake up the power is back.
Anonymous No.106114480 [Report] >>106114795
>>106114431
>UPS. Why do they exists?
For when your power blinks for a second, not even enough for your lights to go all way out, but it will still shut down your PC immediately. Which can lose your work or game progress and is harmful to components.

Also to protect your motherboard from power spikes traveling down ISP cable. Can happen during lightning strike or when ISP installed faulty equipment.
Anonymous No.106114505 [Report] >>106114626
>>106112508
i wonder what that means for the quality of the average PSU. did it go up or down?
Anonymous No.106114554 [Report] >>106114574
is 65-75°C, ~1900rpm at 100% good for a dual fan gpu?
Anonymous No.106114574 [Report]
>>106114554
Anonymous No.106114618 [Report]
GPU rest temp: 32
Pop on the Crysis 2 remaster with maxed graphics, including maxed raytracing
Temp: 64
FPS: ~100

I'll be honest, I don't really have a point of reference for whether this is good result in 2025 or not cuz my old machine was such a shitbox. But it certainly is by comparison.
Anonymous No.106114626 [Report]
>>106114505
It's gone way up since I started building. Quite hard to buy a truly /bad/ PSU from mainstream retailers these days. Though ofc quality and efficiency are not correlated 1:1.
Anonymous No.106114745 [Report] >>106115637
>>106114156
>Will I ever escape bad pixel refresh implementation?
Yeah, I wonder who knows better: some random /g/tard, or LG...
Anonymous No.106114795 [Report] >>106114809
>>106114480
My PC is about 5 years old, not counting all the recent upgrades. Survived multiple blackouts, while I was using it. It still works.
Anonymous No.106114809 [Report]
>>106114795
This doesn't prove anything and doesn't address losing game/work progress issue.
Anonymous No.106114851 [Report] >>106114947
how insane would it be to pay $890 for a 9070xt? shitty gigabyte version too
5070ti is $1040
Anonymous No.106114929 [Report] >>106114961 >>106115052 >>106115060
is my AIO 420mm orientation the reason why my 13900k runs at 76°C on idle?
Anonymous No.106114947 [Report]
>>106114851
>Gigabyte 9070XT ~$890
Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.

>local prices
>ASUS Prime RTX 5070 12GB ~$960
>ASUS Prime RX 9070 XT 16GB ~$930
>shitty Gigabyte RTX 5070 Ti 16GB ~$1300
>ASUS PRIME RTX 5070 Ti 16GB ~$1400
That's why I bought slightly used 4070 Ti Super. Fuck buying 12GB of VRAM in 2025.
Anonymous No.106114961 [Report] >>106115009
>>106114929
>AIO 420mm orientation
Show radiator & fans mounting lmao
Anonymous No.106115004 [Report] >>106115037 >>106115897
how's this build for 4K vidya?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/b4Mmcx

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€499.00 @ Megekko)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€49.85 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€144.90 @ Megekko)
Memory: Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€94.99 @ Megekko)
Storage: Lexar NM790 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€229.00 @ Megekko)
Video Card: Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card (€1349.00 @ Megekko)
Case: NZXT H7 Flow RGB (2024) ATX Mid Tower Case (€139.90 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€119.00 @ Megekko)
Total: €2625.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-08-02 13:08 CEST+0200
Anonymous No.106115009 [Report] >>106115025 >>106115060 >>106115289
>>106114961
heres the back
Anonymous No.106115025 [Report] >>106115040
>>106115009
So radiator is mounted frontally, vertically? Is it behind solid plastic door or something? Where is the hot air going? Out of the front of case? when the door is closed I can see it being a problem.
Anonymous No.106115037 [Report] >>106115057
>>106115004
how much is 9070xt over there?
Anonymous No.106115040 [Report] >>106115055 >>106115060 >>106115080
>>106115025
its front vertical as you see in the picture its pulling air in from the front and hot air in, its behind a solid door but even with it open it kinda makes little difference.
Anonymous No.106115052 [Report]
>>106114929
76c at what power draw? If it's idling at 140W then your cooler is working properly but your os is fucked
Anonymous No.106115055 [Report]
>>106115040
>hot air in
Yeah anon, that's a problem lmao. Reverse it and your case fan too. I would also put something over VRM.
Anonymous No.106115057 [Report] >>106115072 >>106115094
>>106115037
€740~
why should I get it over the 5080, besides the price?
Anonymous No.106115060 [Report]
>>106114929
>>106115009
>>106115040
1. fans are much better at pushing air through radiator than pulling it
2. hot air blowing inside your case is never good
Anonymous No.106115072 [Report] >>106115094 >>106115305
>>106115057
astral 5080 oc bios gets 102fps in timespy extreme gt1. my 9070xt from asrock gets 103fps are 5 minutes of tuning. you can get higher with the 5080 with manual oc but its like 3% for almost double the price?
Anonymous No.106115076 [Report]
I can't decide between rtx 5060 ti
>Asus Dual
>Zoltac Twin
>or Gigabyte Eagle
I can get them for the same price
Anonymous No.106115080 [Report] >>106115316
>>106115040
that fan orientation is taking air from inside the case and pushing it out the front
Anonymous No.106115093 [Report]
I went full Red Team this time. I left Blue Team a decade ago and my last machine I was still on Green Team. But the pricing is just insulting now, I can't give them my money and still respect myself.
Anonymous No.106115094 [Report]
>>106115072
>>106115057
Also not getting into the driver issues with Nvidia on Linux, Windows 11, and Freebsd.
Anonymous No.106115289 [Report] >>106115316
>>106115009
your exhausting hot air through the front? wut
Anonymous No.106115305 [Report]
>>106115072
you can also overclock the 5080 to be 5% below a 4090, whats your point?
Anonymous No.106115310 [Report] >>106115367 >>106115383
is the ASUS B650M-AYW Wi-Fi fine?
it's the cheapest board with wifi here, but I haven't seen much content about it.
Anonymous No.106115316 [Report] >>106115347 >>106115458
>>106115289
>>106115080
bruh I literally said its pulling air in from the front lol
Anonymous No.106115347 [Report] >>106115506
>>106115316
arctic makes reverse blade fans?
Anonymous No.106115367 [Report] >>106115403
>>106115310
assrock pro rs should be about the same price and it's better
Anonymous No.106115383 [Report]
>>106115310
>PCIe 4.0
>2 m2 slots
I don't know bro.
Anonymous No.106115403 [Report] >>106115449 >>106116143
>>106115367
can't find a pro rs here but how about an ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 instead? I could buy a wifi module later
Anonymous No.106115449 [Report]
>>106115403
not good
Anonymous No.106115458 [Report]
>>106115316
bruh
Anonymous No.106115473 [Report] >>106115507
So what laptops are best value for money?
Anonymous No.106115506 [Report] >>106115513
>>106115347
ok maybe I was wrong didn't realize they was pulling from air inside
Anonymous No.106115507 [Report] >>106115564
>>106115473
macbook air
Anonymous No.106115513 [Report] >>106115533 >>106116504
>>106115506
sandwich it between the case and radiator to pull in cool air and you will see a huge drop in temps
Anonymous No.106115533 [Report] >>106115556
>>106115513
I thought everyone just stuck the radiator in the top and had the fans blow air through it to dissipate the heat. You know, like every other radiator for anything else ever.
Anonymous No.106115556 [Report]
>>106115533
because everyone's running a low power x3d
you have the hottest cpu known to man so your choices are limited
Anonymous No.106115564 [Report]
>>106115507
I mean gaming laptop with a gpu
Anonymous No.106115637 [Report] >>106115647
I don't think I can pull the trigger on a LG WOLED, the impure non rgb pixel structure, the non perfect viewing angles, the not-as-good-as-qdoled wide color gamut, forced to use 60hz or downscale to 1440p 144hz until I get a compliant hdmi 2.1 plug because tv does not come with a usb-c for laptop
having to deal with the possible LG firmware fuck ups

>>106114745
it might be over
Anonymous No.106115647 [Report] >>106116012
>>106115637
what's the alternative?
Anonymous No.106115686 [Report] >>106115715
will there be more new X3D CPU for AM5 platform?
Anonymous No.106115704 [Report] >>106115721
Is there not a SINGLE gpu that can handle 4k underneath the 1k$ ??
Anonymous No.106115715 [Report]
>>106115686
pretty safe to assume there will be zen 6 x3d
Anonymous No.106115721 [Report] >>106115744
>>106115704
4k can be anything from solitaire to the most unoptimized ue5
Gonna have to qualify that
Anonymous No.106115744 [Report] >>106115765
>>106115721
Let's say Cyberpunk, Elden Ring, BG3 and GTA 6? Playing on at least high settings on 240 hz screen
Anonymous No.106115765 [Report] >>106115788
>>106115744
well not even a 5090 will hit native 4k 240fps high on most of those
Anonymous No.106115788 [Report]
>>106115765
I don't need 240, as long as my low 1% are above 60
Anonymous No.106115838 [Report] >>106116122
>>106110031 (OP)
>2x16GB or 2x24GB
>2x24GB
Why not 2x32GB? There are only mad 8000MT kits 2x24GB here for like $500, I'm not buying those.
Anonymous No.106115897 [Report]
>>106115004
Board doesn't have the greatest VRM but it's fine, consider other B650/B850 ATX boards
get CL30 ram (still with an expo profile ofc). Slightly better performance and also usually much better binned
psu is good but can be a little loud, also I'm not sure if it's atx 3.1 or just 3.0, check beforehand
Anonymous No.106115957 [Report] >>106115986 >>106116383
>Redragon ST4RPro
>Mad Dog GM715K
Which one has the better tech for the price? The only downside I can see on the latter is that it is wired while the Redragon is wireless. The former is 170 PLN, the other I can get a discouny from 130 down to 90 PLN.

Both significantly cheaper than the Logitech Superlight 2.
Anonymous No.106115986 [Report] >>106116083
>>106115957
I respect Redragon accessories. I have their mouse (m908 impact), mechanical keyboard and giant mousepad. Great value.
Anonymous No.106116012 [Report]
>>106115647
A fuck huge Samsung tv or the qdoled monitors... they are gonna force me to pay the ROG tax
it's all so tiring
Anonymous No.106116061 [Report]
Can anyone with a water cooling loop tell me how you hook up the controller (a quadro)? Where do you plug it in on the mobo? I want to have the fan speeds governed by the water temperature.
Anonymous No.106116083 [Report] >>106116096 >>106116383
>>106115986
Apparently Mad Dog is the Media Expert domestic brand, so I will take advantage of the fact I just paid 291 PLN for this combo. If it's even 90% or 80% as good as a Superlight + Some other Cherry combo I will consider it a steal.

They seem eager for user feedback so if I find the cable problematic I can return it and try the Red Dragon instead.
Anonymous No.106116091 [Report] >>106116095
No bake sar??
Anonymous No.106116095 [Report] >>106116174
>>106116091
as you wish

new thread

>>106116093
>>106116093
>>106116093
Anonymous No.106116096 [Report]
>>106116083
you probably won't notice much difference
>cable
some of the best aimers in the world use cable mice
Anonymous No.106116122 [Report] >>106116186
>>106115838
Because dual-rank kits (2x 32, 2x 48, 2x 64 GB) stress the CPU's IMC harder, making it difficult to match the speeds of 2x 16 or 2x 24 GB kits.
AFAIK, Hynix M-Die (24GB or 48GB sets @ low CL) is less stressful on the IMC than A-die.
Anonymous No.106116143 [Report]
>>106115403
>how about an ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2
It's the best value board, good enough to power 9950X3Ds.
Haven't heard this board killing Ryzen CPUs, so that's good.
Anonymous No.106116174 [Report]
>>106116095
thanks for doing the needful sar
Anonymous No.106116186 [Report] >>106116243
>>106116122
well shit, guess I'm buying 2x16 and waiting for 2x24 to drop in price
Anonymous No.106116243 [Report] >>106116497
>>106116186
If you need the capacity, it's fine to buy a 2x 32GB kit; it will run 6000MT/s CL30 fine.
They just can't OC as high as 2x 16 or 24GB, which Ryzen CPUs do benefit from if the IMC & motherboard can handle it (more about the IMC).

If you're going dual-rank, you might as well buy the higher capacity 2x 24GB or 2x 64GB kit (given cost isn't too prohibitive, not for you).
Anonymous No.106116383 [Report]
>>106116083
>>106115957
MadDog is pretty god, even the famous polish youtuber Tomasz Terka uses their products
Anonymous No.106116437 [Report]
>>106113191
Suisei has lots of female fans so there's a nonzero chance this would work
Anonymous No.106116497 [Report]
>>106116243
>If you need the capacity
I wish I didn't.
Anonymous No.106116504 [Report] >>106116574
>>106115513
yeah nice its now 60°C-65 idle much better
Anonymous No.106116574 [Report]
>>106116504
still seems way too hot. my old 13900ks idled in the high 30s in a really hot 30c/86f room with a 360mm aio
your IHS might be really warped by socket retention pressure and not making good contact with the AIO so consider getting a thermalright lga1700 contact frame