I've honestly never touched Photoshop, but I've used GIMP for nearly 20 years to do basically everything people use Photoshop for. Is Photoshop actually that much better than GIMP 3.0?

> Plop

>>106115503 (OP)
No, but professionals are used to photoshop and claim that anything they can't find in one second isn't present in gimp

>>106118105
The real problem with GIMP is it's impossibly sloppy, vomit-inducing ugly, garbage gui. It's also bloated and irresposive, but that only compared to Photoshop CS6, which's the last version worth using. Features should be good enough for most people that don't need the extra 3d/video stuff.

Just to clarify, this is not about me not being willing to put in the time to learn the interface; I'm already familiar with it, but the whole experience is just miserable compared to CS6.

>>106118524
>impossibly sloppy, vomit-inducing ugly, garbage gui
GIMP and Photoshop both default to a dark theme these days

>>106118581
Not a concern for me. CS6 also defaults to dark so I always switch to light first thing after installation.

>>106118524
>It's miserable
Why
>because it's not photoshop and I bought that shit so I must defend it EVER FUCKING CHANCE I GET
lol

>>106115503 (OP)
>but I've used GIMP for nearly 20 years to do basically everything people use Photoshop for
What year did Gimp finally get adjustment layers? I feel like they had been missing that basic feature for decades

>>106119063
Using GIMP feels like letting a troon into the children's bathroom.

>>106115503 (OP)
GIMP still needs CMYK colorspace support for print projects (such as posters, brochures, books, magazines, etc.). If you're working on a professional print project and you want to ensure the colors come out of the printer looking as intended, CMYK is pretty essential.

>>106119167
Doesn't GIMP support CMYK now?

>>106115503 (OP)
photoshop is mostly used as a sketching or raster editing utility to aid the project specific work with illustrator (vectors, layout, print), aftereffects (video editing, vfx), c4d (3d modeling and animation), indesign (multi-page print publishing), figma (ui) and whatnot

raster image editor is actually the less important thing for gfx work, a small part of it, the vectors, text, layout, print, ui or video project formats matter more, unless all you do is crop and retouch photos or draw concept art

it is pretty important that the psd project files integrate with all those other project files mentioned

freetard graphics software is like 20% there, krita and blender have become sort of good in their domains (basically being substitutes of photoshop and c4d), but other areas and integration between the software are lacking or nonexistant (GOOD 2d vector graphics, ui, print design, publishing oriented software)

>>106119280
in other words, if you haven't touched photoshop for 20 years, you don't know what employed people use it for, it's not just about photoshop

maybe blender will eventually become the freetard emacs of graphic design knowing it's absorbing more and more features of drawing programs and video editors.

gimp? who cares. krita is the real clone of photoshop gui and features.

but separating vector and raster project formats (e.g. ai and psd) in 2025 is retarded and outated; affinity company have the right idea of merging photoshop/illustrator/indesign in one thing.

>>106119181
it doesn't even support circles

>>106115503 (OP)
Photoshop was loads better, ages ago. Now it's pretty much only good for studios. It's no longer an application or a tool, it's a "service". And that makes it 1000x worse than any of the (fixable) issues GIMP has imo.
I'd rather use free software as a hobbyist/indie. If I staffed up a studio I might consider Photoshop, but for a small scratch team nah fuckit.
>>106118524
GIMP runs fine on my ancient 2nd hand laptop. If you're having issues running it, and not photoshop, you're FULL OF SHIT YOU LIAR. /s
It does load up slower on Windows for some reason though.
>CS6, which's the last version worth using.
True.
>>106119143
I don't like interacting with the mentally ill either, but your analogy is off, and seems like an excuse to derail a topic.
>>106119280
Photoshop's smart-layers are pretty great.
Blender though hasn't become "sorta good" it's slowly becoming the industry standard. It's damn good, and hopefully will keep getting better.
Krita isn't really a photoshop replacement, it's more of a side grade for photoshop and only in the realm of painting. It's not great for graphic design - Hell GIMP beats it at that in it's slightly clunky freeware way.
Gimp is getting better too though. But maybe not fast enough.

Inkscape sucks but I like the way it sucks. :::::))))

There is literally nothing photoshop offers that gimp doesn't.

>>106118524
I'm sorry but if you're an actual designer you can just make your own gui and since gimp is os you're free to swap it with your own. Just get a code buddy or now you could use ai to do it.

>>106119280
Blender is literally better than anything it competes with
has been for a long time

>>106115503 (OP)
Photoshop allows you to sell files for higher prices.

>>106119432
>GIMP runs fine on my ancient 2nd hand laptop. If you're having issues running it, and not photoshop, you're FULL OF SHIT YOU LIAR. /s
>It does load up slower on Windows for some reason though.

Calm down boy, I'm on Windows, so I guess that's the reason it runs like shit.

>>106115503 (OP)
Gimp only got nondestructive editing about 3 months ago, which is about 12 years later than it should have been. For this reason alone it's going to take another decade before photoshop users realize they can finally use an image editing program to edit images non destructively.

The truth is though, gimp can do about 90% of what I need for a project, however the last 10% is the most crucial to my workflow, so it's entirely unusable. Also a lot of thing taking an extra click. If you're just using it to make images with big red arrows or opening your mouth wider for a youtube thumbnail, gimp has everything you need.

>t. linux fag, still dual booting for photoshop

>>106115503 (OP)
I always used Photoshop, and GIMP is quite literally unusable for me. It is incredibly clunky and encompasses everything that's wrong with freetard software. I love free software, I'm just being realistic. Not even thinking about the price or anything, given that PS is free for personal use.
The way I see it, 2 photo editing programs are all you need: MS Paint and Photoshop. (If you do digital art, throw in CSP too.)
These 2 programs satisfy all my photo editing needs.

>>106121016
>gimp can do about 90% of what I need for a project, however the last 10% is the most crucial to my workflow
What's the 10% that Gimp is still missing?

>>106121109
Better color management, CMYK being a primary one.
Selection tools aren't as great making you have to do more work, which is a hard sell.
RAW file processing, which does exist in plugins but again, requiring extra steps is a hard sell.
less professional: creating gifs may as well be impossible in gimp. It's a waste of your time to try.

I'm sure there's more, I'm glad GIMP has come such a long way, I really just wish they would have adding non destructive editing years ago so more users would have jumped ship and ideally the software became better faster.

>>106115503 (OP)
You can make quite complex paintings with a pile of shit and a stick too, if you spent 30 years practising. EOD, it's still a pile of shit. You CANNOT go from Photoshop to GIMP, it's godawful trash. And claiming that it's 'the equivalent of Photoshop' has probably singlehandedly done more to discourage Linux adoption than any other factor.
>Well, if this is Linux idea of an equivalent..

>>106121230
>claiming that it's 'the equivalent of Photoshop' has probably singlehandedly done more to discourage Linux adoption than any other factor
Fucking this. They are trying to gaslight people into thinking not having standards is actually a good thing.

>>106121230
Real. GIMP is the worst possible representative for linux. Use Blender as an example or something, anything but gimp.

>>106121187
>>106119167
>CMYK
Gimp has CMYK colorspace support you fucking liar.

>>106115503 (OP)
I tried using GIMP for a good while since I didn't want to give in to Adobe, but it is utterly shit in comparison.
RawTherapee is a decent Lightroom alternative that I've used for many years but I eventually swapped to Lightroom. I'd recommend it for anyone starting out in photography though, it's closer to Lightroom than GIMP is to Photoshop.

>>106118524
Lol those python shitscripts are slow and yeah the GUI is ugly, it takes forever to launch

>>106119181
>>106122008
>Gimp has CMYK colorspace support

Is there anywhere I can enable it? I just see RGB and Grayscale.

>>106122008
It no longer requires third party plugins to import or export. You can indeed open a CMYK project in GIMP, but it still converts the entire colorspace to RGB for editing, which makes it completely useless because you are not getting the appropriate colors for printing.

You don't know what you're talking about.

>>106120909
It still runs fine on windows in my experience, but first load is shit is all.
There was an update recently I haven't switched over to, might have fixed it.

>>106119353
GIMP has had a circle select tool for as long as I can remember. Adjust the area of your circle then fill it in with the paint bucket.

It's a circle!
>>>wsg/5939147

Edit -> stroke selection. Wasn't captured. Can't be bovvered.

>>106123184
...
>>>/wsg/5939147
I've been drinking.

>>106118105
>No, but professionals are used to photoshop and claim that anything they can't find in one second
Legitimate issue though. I have 20 years experience in PS. Abandoning that to spend time and do everything slower for the foreseeable future is a cost, even if Gimp is free.
Additionally, I still need to have PS and other adobe applications because the whole industry works in them.
So as someone who uses PS professionally, there's zero upside to me spending the time and energy to to switch over to Gimp.

>>106123190
>>106123184
Which keys did you press to draw the line?

>>106123537
and i have 20 years experience with gimp, the world doesn't revolve around you

>>106124586
What a way to waste one's life.

>>106115503 (OP)
I don't use photoshop anymore because I use krita and let me say photoshop is better than gimp in every single way. gimp is a troll program to see how far will people will defend open source software even if it's made to be the most unintuitive piece of garbage ever made on purpose. gimplets have the ultimate baby duck syndrome.

>>106118581
UI != Theme. What are you retarded?

>>106119445
A user experience that is not rage inducing but actually fun and intuitive.

>>106119456
I have already done this using JS and Canvas, it's been better than gimp since day 1.

>>106124586
I'm embarrassed for you anon

>>106124657
>UI != Theme. What are you retarded?
Anon used the word "ugly".

>>106115503 (OP)
Before Sketch, Figma, and XD, I used Photoshop at work (as an upgrade from PaintShop Pro) for web design mock-ups. While it of course had a learning curve, including some things where I needed to ask other people for help, it was pretty intuitive and did things in mostly sensible ways.

Not so with Gimp. I installed Gimp at home and thought the skills would transfer. No. It does things in infuriating, cumbersome ways. Layers have different sizes meaning you can't paint outside them unless you? WHY?! Do you have any idea how many fucking layers I used? Pasting pastes some "floating layer" shit that may or may not merge with the layer below (and also has a custom size)?

Just typing this makes me mad. I thought the /g/ jokes about drawing circles were a meme until I tried. I'm sure Gimp is perfectly capable in terms of functionality. But to use that functionality you have to jump through hoops.

>>106118524
>>106118105
>Its muh UI
bitch please do you see the UI's "creative" fags put up with? It's basic functionality like nde, cmyk and wide color space support why noone in the business will ever take Gimp seriously. It's fine for most amateur and self-employed uses but once you have a print/ad department you'll need to use what they can work with if you want to get your money's worth.

>>106125887
You're just a whiny little faggot
Cry harder poser

GIMPs problem, is that it's trying too hard to not be Photoshop.
The workflow might be 90% similar, but the last 10% is what makes the experience unbearable.

I gave it a real shot, with PhotoGIMP theme and everything. But in the end, it was too difficult to navigate.
Ended up just using Photopea instead. Wish they would open-source that shit.

>>106122137
afaik it can't edit directly as cmyk just export, I might be wrong.

>>106126312
Not an argument gimplet

>>106126326
Use Krita

>>106126326
I'm >>106125887 and I think you hit the nail on the head. Also >>106127017 - use Krita. Not saying it replaces Photoshop but it sure as hell replaces Gimp.

>>106126362
what the fuck

>>106127017
>>106128376
>Use Krita
I did actually install it, briefly, after seeing how recommended it was in here.
But I feel like it, once again, strays too far away from the pure Photoshop feeling.
It also seems more catered towards people who draw, which is not what I use PS for.

Photopea is still the closest I've gotten to that real Photoshop feeling.
There are some quirks, like not being able to save the same .psd file, but aside from that, I've been able to make the graphic designs I've needed.

gimp needs a total makeover. can't fuck up the UI more than how it already is.

>>106128662
It's a failed experiment, it just needs to die already.

>still shilling GIMP
>not accepting Photopea

>>106126326
>Wish they would open-source that shit.
Sure but it's this good because it's not open source to begin with

>>106115503 (OP)
Just use Linux, you won't even have to choose between Photoshop and GIMP.

>>106125887
>WHY?!
Why would graphic designers want layers with defined boundaries? >>106126312 is right, you are a poser.
>Pasting pastes some "floating layer" shit that may or may not merge with the layer below
The UI gives you more than enough cues on how to use this and what it does. GIMP has many problems but this isn't one of them. If you can't figure it out, you have shit for brains.
>(and also has a custom size)?
This is literally the opposite of a problem.

You are complaing about being unable to use features with a clear purpose. If you aren't trolling, then you are a complete idiot, which means you are lying about being a pro. No ifs or buts about this.

>>106126326
>>106128376
>>106128576
You very obviously have baby duck syndrome and so does everyone who agrees with you.

The problem isn't GIMP. The problem is you expecting everything to be exactly like Photoshop.

>>106121016
>Gimp only got nondestructive editing about 3 months ago
That was about fixing the rotation tool, which was only destructive during version 2.9 (for some reason).

>>106121053
>I always used Photoshop, and GIMP is quite literally unusable for me. It is incredibly clunky
Not beating the baby duck allegations.

>>106129673
>The problem isn't GIMP. The problem is you expecting everything to be exactly like Photoshop.

Different anon here.

That's not true at all. I used psp until version 9 and never had an issue with it, then switched to photoshop (upgrading until cs6) and no issue either, yet throughout all this I'd install gimp every year or so just to see if the interface would improve, and it never did. It was trash back then, it is still trash now.

>>106115503 (OP)
I'm sure GIMP is fine for people raised on it, but to me the interface might as well be French while I already spent 80 dollars on Photoshop so you best be sure I'm wringing 80 dollars of work out of it

>>106124657
>user experience that is not rage inducing but actually fun and intuitive
Using photoshop is not fun nor intuitive. >>106121053
Going from MS Paint to GIMP is much easier. Back when there were all sorts of alternatives, such as openCanvas, Photoshop was the one that stood out as having a shitty, overwhelming UI.

Like >>106125999 said, the real reason Photoshop dominates is simply that everything is compatible with it. Same reason Windows domitates, even though everyone agrees it's shit. Believing Photoshop is inherently better is delusional and just shows how little you really know.

>>106129829
>"That's not true at all."
>explains that a new version of Photoshop is good because it's just like using an old version of Photoshop, while GIMP is bad because you keep expecting to become Photoshop and never does

>>106115503 (OP)
>using something called GIMP in a professional setting
>hey, anon can you gimp this for me

Gimp was created so that image editors on linux never compete with photoshop.

>>106129774
I don't know what that means but you can't deny GIMP is clunky as fuck.
>>106129886
>Using photoshop is not fun nor intuitive
Photoshop is intuitive once you get used to it. There is a learning curve, but everybody on earth is already past that because everybody uses PS. You don't need more than 3 brain cells to use it.
You can tell most shit in PS was designed intentionally. GIMP is just simply unintuitive, and you can tell the way it was designed was mostly freetards going "uhh I guess I'll add this thing to that array there".
>Going from MS Paint to GIMP is much easier
PS and MS Paint are not alternatives of each other.
>Believing Photoshop is inherently better is delusional and just shows how little you really know.
Photoshop IS an inherently better program than GIMP, and it dominates the market because it just works. MS Paint is also an inherently better program than GIMP.

>>106129937
>saying "can you photoshop this" instead of "can you edit/fix this"
You have no right to talk about convenience.
>inb4 "I just say 'shop"
Don't even try to claim this was your angle now.

>>106129922
What a stupid animal. PSP stands for Paint Shop Pro, version 9 being the last without the crap interface changes and subsequent addition of bloat.

>>106130010
Alright, my bad. Though, if PSP was like Photoshop, that means the point is still valid.

>>106129988
>There is a learning curve, but everybody on earth is already past that because everybody uses PS
You are arguing in my favor. Being used to taking it in the ass does not mean you are not taking it in the ass anymore.
>MS Paint is also an inherently better program than GIMP.
This proves that you are delusional.
>it dominates the market because it just works
That was my point, retard. It works within the ecosystem companies have been cultivating, much like how Unix "just worked" because everyone was using it. Steve Jobs understood this, which is why Apple shit only works with other Apple shit.

>>106130062
It wasn't.

>>106130202
You don't have to be a genius to use Photoshop. If you barely know 5% of what it can do, you can already just use it casually.
And it isn't about its interoperability with anything. Even if you use it on its own, it's still better than anything freetards put out.
>look up tutorial on how to so something in PS
>ok it makes sense
vs
>look up how to draw a circle in GIMP
>wtf

>>106118105
What exactly is ugly about GIMP's UI? This is constantly brought up and I've never, not once, heard any specific criticism as to 'why'. pic related is my personal setup for GIMP that I've used since 2010. Please point to literally anything in this picture that is unintuitive or objectively bad. I'd honestly would love to know what the fuck people mean when they say this.

>>106129553
>web app

>>106131188
It's not about being ugly, it's about people with 20yoe in PS not knowing where some tools is they need and then claiming it doesn't exist

>>106132476
Sorry, I accidentally replied to the wrong post. it was meant for >>106118524

>>106115503 (OP)
It's way better, lol. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional or lying for sake of OSS. The adobe suite is the benchmark, as it's been for 20 years, it actually is that simple.

>>106132721
Photoshop in particular has been on top for 30 years.

>>106115503 (OP)
If you know what you're doing as a professional, you can use either tool, even if you might like one of them over the other.

If you aren't making money doing it, why would you pay for a subscription to it?

>>106115503 (OP)
How's Affinity Photo 2 in all of this?
And have any of you proper tech gods gotten that software to work in Ubuntu based systems because I haven't gotten it to work.

>>106132476
>>106118105
>throw away all your experience you've gained using a qwert keyboard to use our random shitty gimp keyboard that doesn't have the functionality of qwert keyboard because just do it okay?
the onesis isn't on other people to learn your gimp shit it's for you to accommodate them.

you can tell gimp is a piece of shit just from the fact gimptards think othhrs owe them their time and effort just because. there's no reason why gimp can't have PS ui and gimptard ui for gimptards.
>but it's not fair! they should use our gimptard keyboard and abandon qwert!
this is exactly the kind of person you never want to rely on.

>>106121187
photoshop is just as iffy with raw files as gimp just in different ways
i had to manually download and install a plugin to fix some horrible bug present in the photoshop raw plugin
meanwhile gimp required me to install darktable, but after install just werks

>>106115503 (OP)
Gimp is still shit even after the "major" update it had.
Just pirate Photoshop and be happy.

gimp > ps

proprietary fags will seethe, but it is what it is

>>106115503 (OP)
It's much better than GIMP 2.x, but it's not that much different from GIMP 3 aside from the default keyboard shortcuts (which suck on both PS and GIMP) and the lack of services like AI, remote storage, etc.

>>106128576
You are as bad as the gimplets and deserve what you get. I also use Krita mostly for photo manipulation.

>>106129673
No gimp is part of the problem even if the anon you are replying to is retarded.

>>106131188
Everything takes 10x the effort/time/clicks to do in gimp than any other photo manipulation program.

>>106133727
>If you know what you're doing as a professional
This is a lie. I tried making simple game textures using gimp and the experience was absolutely awful and I never felt less productive in my life, after half a day I was unable to make a single useful texture. In the end I just ended up using photopea and krita which was so easy breezy in comparison. That experience confirmed to me without a doubt that gimp is a troll program.

>>106118524
>impossibly sloppy
Complete opposite, it's excruciantingly pedantic.
>vomit-inducing ugly, garbage gui
Looks great and integrates well in system package format on Linux Debian.
>bloated and irresposive
Yes, it was on Windows, it needed 5-15s to load at first run.
On Linux, it's as fast as any native program, it starts almost instantly, always.

>the whole experience is just miserable compared to CS6
It's really... not comparable, actually.
>Photoshop
Programmers being paid to write software for actual photographers and graphic and print designers
>GIMP
Programmers making a program for programmers that need a graphic editing tool.

Case in point:
Draw a circle.
>use the circle tool
vs
>select with elliptical selection tool
>coerce selection to right-angle to induce circle instead of ellipse
>(probably adjust center again)
>fill this selection with circle color
>shrink selection by desired width of circle
>delete selection again
>leaves circle as remnant

I mean... yes, that is a very correct way to do a circle, from the POV of a programmer.
It's NOT wrong, just... VERY pedantic.

>>106136229
>>GIMP
>Programmers making a program for programmers that need a graphic editing tool
This is insightful comment achshually, one which maybe gets to the root of the problem. There can be few better examples than GIMP of programmers needing to be sat in a room and force fed, LIVE! feedback from the poor schmucks struggling to use it. Near all of whom are trying to achieve some creative result, yet faced with a UI that appears almost malovelent in it's disdain for the user.
Of course, none of this would even be a problem if the promoters of this clunky piece of crap would simply stop shouting:
>GIMP! It's THE Photoshop replacement!
because, of course, the FUCK it is. PS just werks, having had 3 decades of feedback, refinement and all the love, care and attention the cunts at Adobe feel they must shower upon at least one of their products as partial excuse towards the rest of their endless bullshit. tldr, maybe actually listen to those users the program is claimed to be FOR, or just stop impostering already, after 20 fucking years of it.

>>106136559
>>GIMP! It's THE Photoshop replacement!
Millenial/early Zoomer issue.
We all had pirated Photoshop, especially the girls (for their selfies).
We could've all just used GIMP for that, barely any of us were shooting in RAW format and needed CYMK color space.
We just needed something that supported transparency ('alpha (color) channel,' to be technically pedantic) and layers, coming from Microsoft Paint, which had included JPG and PNG support starting only with Windows XP.

...yes, many of us diehard IrfanView fans come from *that* era.

>>106115503 (OP)
Gimp being less polished than photoshop I expected, but it's also buggy as fuck.
Muh adjustable font outline was one of the big ticket things about 3.0. It crashed for me on RC, it crashed on me on 3.0 release and it keeps crashing on me on 3.04 whenever I pick the color of the outline.
Baffling.
>ok surely they'll fix it on release
>fucking hell it's still here, lemme report it
>"pls make account to report bugs so we can sell your data. or log-in with github ig"
>log-in with github
>"haha you can't actually log-in with github, this only works if you already have an account on our bug tracker"
I should have pirated photoshop
just in case anyone contriboooting to gimp is here: fix your shit (win10), if I click the 'solid color' the entire thing crashes instead of showing color picker (the one above which is black works fine). you can sort of make it work by RPM -> foreground color, but I don't *want* software that just randomly crashes on my ass so I'd rather use something else

thank you for coming to my ted talk

Free software is more of a hit and miss than anything in the corporate world due to developers not having much of an incentive to do better, and gimp just happens to be one of those misses. Moving on.

>>106137440
>>"pls make account to report bugs so we can sell your data. or log-in with github ig"
>>log-in with github
>>"haha you can't actually log-in with github, this only works if you already have an account on our bug tracker"
>windows user as well
bless you anon

A big point about drawing circles in GIMP is that not only does it take more steps to do, but since the shape you get is not a vector, if you need to make it bigger, you have to do everything all over again

>>106135656
Everything I do in GIMP takes LESS time than other programs. Seamless textures? one button. Separating lineart from a background? Takes three seconds tops. Instant gradient maps?
nothing could be easier. Any of these tasks in Photoshop of Affinity Photo (which is a program that enjoy using) would easily add another 15-20 steps. I can add filters to the toolbar and save even MORE time that way as well. Once again please name one thing GIMP is bad at. I'm willing to listen but I never hear specifics.

>>106134654
Just change your shortcuts? Change your UI?
If you moved into a new house, would you also expect to not have to arrange your own furniture to how you'd like it? What kind of learned helplessness is this?

>>106140402
>Seamless textures
Offset filter + clone stamp
>Separating lineart from a background
turn off "contiguous" for magic wand
>Instant gradient maps?
new adjustment layer > gradient map

>>106140605
>turn off "contiguous" for magic wand
Destructive to most lineart. I personally use a workflow of
>copy image
>create black layer mask
>paste layer onto layer mask
>invert layer mask
>fill layer with solid black (just drag & color btw)
>apply layer mask
And done! This way gets the best results IMO and doesn't need any cleanup.

>>106140523
Fren he's just baiting you

>Photoshop
>>The ultimate representation of paypigging
>GIMP
>>The ultimate representation of autism
Real men use real tools.

>>106141118
>Use this website that just looks like photoshop
No thank you!

>>106135673
What? If you know the absolute basics about penrose tiles you can work magic in GIMP you never could in PS. GIMP is genuinely autistic software, but it's wizardry for real wizards. You don't need anything else.

>>106134614
not on ubuntu but its rather easy to install trough lutris or multiple github scripts

>>106140402
>I'm willing to listen but I never hear specifics.
Because everybody immediately ragequits and uninstalls this garbage and forgets about it.

>>106140825
maybe
I just refine edge or if I'm super picky I'll use pen tool to draw a selection
Or just trace it in Illustrator

>>106129622
If Gimp is so great - better than Photoshop, even, with its defined layer boundaries and intuitive UI cues - then why aren't corpos saving money by installing Gimp literally *for free* instead of paying 1000s of USD in Adobe license fees per year AND unlocking new levels of productivity never seen before? Surely, after 20 years, word of this amazing workaround MUST have spread, given how great it is?

>>106141593
Diffetent anon hete.

Photoshop's price is an utterly insignificant expense for any corporation, and the convenience of not having to retrain the staff and give up tech support justifies not trying out anything different, so even if gimp was a better piece of software, the switch would never happen anyways.

Adobe malware won't be going anywhere near my system.

>>106142187
Stick to CS6 or older, it's clean.

I have never heard a single use case for the floating selection retardation.

>>106118524
>impossibly sloppy, vomit-inducing ugly, garbage gui.
you're literally doing what >>106118105 said, you're used to one program so another that does the same thing but is laid out differently triggers you

>>106135656
>any other photo manipulation program
what other photo manipulation program? right, the only one you know, photoshop. and why does it take longer? because you know photoshop, retard.

>>106115503 (OP)
>>106118105
>>106118524
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>>106124620

i've used GIMP 4 years ago to falsify my bachelor's degree diploma, it worked fine for me

>>106135656
Laziness is really effeminate

>>106142245
Read the rest of the post you stupid nigger: >"Just to clarify, this is not about me not being willing to put in the time to learn the interface; I'm already familiar with it, but the whole experience is just miserable compared to CS6."

>>106137440
FOSStoddlers BTFO!

>>106142187
Are there any women without penises who are passionate about FOSS?

>>106115503 (OP)
Pinta is the best.

>>106115503 (OP)
sure it's better but for 95% of people gimp is enough and you won't see any benefit from using photoshop.

>>106141405
>not on ubuntu but its rather easy to install trough lutris or multiple github
Like how easy through Lutris?
I've been trying and managing to fail through Wine+Bottles.

>>106141230
>if you're retarded gimp is great because it's made for retards by retards

>>106142281
I haven't used photoshop in years. I use Krita, Photopea and custom canvas scripts all have a better user experience than gimp.

>>106142573
>being inefficient is a good thing
Are you retarded I have to process 25k sprites for a game, every fucking second counts. Also it's obvious you have never done any actual work.

>>106136229
>It's NOT wrong, just... VERY pedantic.
You misspelt retarded

>>106136559
I am a programmer, gimp is shit. I rather use canvas and javascript than use gimp. Literally writing code is more user friendly than using gimp. If you're a programmer and use gimp instead of canvas/imagemagik/gd you're just pretending to be a programmer.

>>106140402
All of that is a couple of clicks in photoshop as well. GIMP is bad at everything.

>>106141700
Then why are some of them switching to Krita? Hmmm anon? Yea that's what I thought.

I don't need to do hardcore image editing so I just use paint.net.

>>106142281
Krita
Photopea
Affinity
Paint shop pro
Coral draw/painter

The only one that is unusable is gimp because it was made bad on purpose.