Can you believe it guys? Trixie, just a week away. Debian trixie is in a week! Woohoo! I am so happy about this information. Trixie! Just a week away, oh wow. Can you believe it? Trixie! Just in a week! It got here so fast! Debian Trixie! Just a week away!

>>106128051 (OP)
>my updated packages that i could have updated myself are coming
>yaaaay

>>106128051 (OP)
usecase?

>forced wayland
>more features removed by gnome
at this point updating will make your system worse

are we supposed to be excited? i dont even want to update. what a pain in the ass..

idk why i even bother with debian anymore, every release has me side-loading more and more programs getting dropped by the distribution or pinning last known good versions of programs that get shipped with glaring bugs or just randomly breaking X11 functionality, like when the debian packagers shipped a version of chromium that broke fcitx5, and another version later broke all keyboard input.

>>106128547
what am i even looking at

>>106128547
>screenftehc: command not found

>>106128547
i'm in the same boat, but on the other hand, that's mild inconvenience every two years. i can deal with that

>>106128587
testing my rice after some fixes
GTK2 is effectively dropped, even lxde apps like pcmanfm are using GTK3 theming now also the packaged version of urxvt (9.31) shipped with a years old bug that screws up the scrollback buffer and also draws the prompt halfway down the screen

>>106128633
what's the issue here? he got convicted, presumably served his time and is now contributing to society again

>>106128688
americans don't believe in letting convicts re-integrate into society, what with things like background checks preventing you from working anything but the most menial jobs.

>>106128723
taking away perspective from convicts sounds like a great way to make them relapse, but i can understand not trusting them in positions of power. but the man is writing open source code, that's about the least powerful job i can think of

>>106128051 (OP)
>>106128156
take the devuan pill

>>106128910
slave labor from re-offenders is a huge money maker

>>106128633
Bicha

At this point in time, what is the difference between Debian Testing and Debian 13?
If there is no difference why are troons so amped about 13's release?

>>106128633
reminder that this man could have remained employed at Canonical with a high salary, if only he didn't sperg out and post hate speech against national socialists on github

>>106128547
are you going to change distros

>>106128910
That's the idea .... Repeat customers for the parole/prison system.

>>106130264
This is also true...

yeah, no
I'll use a good Linux like Mint or Ubuntu
Debian doesn't work and I disagree with their stated philosophy

>>106130415
>Debian doesn't work and I disagree with their stated philosophy
Elaborate further, given that the two Linuxes you cited are built on top of Debian.

>>106130425
>Debian doesn't work and I disagree with their stated philosophy
Elaborate further, given that the two Linuxes you cited are built on top of Debian.

>>106128547
Debian is a server OS anon
Are you running a server?
If not you got MEMED

>>106128051 (OP)
Be truthful anon. How much Rust is in it?

>>106130598
On that note, Linux is a server OS, so if you're running it on you are desktop, you fell for the meme.

I already updooted a couple servers. It's in the full freeze phase so it's pretty safe even though it didn't officially release yet.

>>106129721
On Saturday, Debian's stable branch becomes Debian Trixie, and Debian's Testing Branch becomes the next Debian, Debian Forky. Debian.

I got too impatient and installed Mint, also there's the debacle with the child fucker.
>>106128688
The sick fuck raped his sisters, plus other little girls before turning 18. There is no goddamn way a person like that could ever be reformed.

>>106128060
Running testing on your computer is borderline malicious and would get you a written warning in reasonable workplaces

i just built up my first debian box after switching from windows.

can i just not update and keep things how they are? for how long?

>>106132745
depends on what packages you use, if it's all old software and minimal autistic twm shit, you won't notice until your version of firefox is too old to browse modern websites

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>106128051 (OP)
>Trixie
Is 15 going to be called Fluttershy?

>>106128156
>waland
>gnome
>not running headless
ngmi

What's taking so long?
Debian devs are slow as snails

>>106134059
They're Toy Story names, zoomie.

>>106128156
>gnome
if you wanted a bloated de just use plasma.
otherwise learn how window managers work. they will basically never change.

>>106129721
They are the same thing curretly. They'll diverge when the new version of Debian gets released and testing changes from Trixie to Forky (what a retarded name)

>>106130858
Are these production servers or just hobby servers? Waiting to update mine for about a week after Trixie's release in case there are any weird bugs

>>106132745
You can, but you won't be able to use backports. Well, you can use them, but they'll be "sloppy" and kind of taint your system.

I can't stop thinking about burying my cock deep inside Trixie's winking horse pussy.

>>106128051 (OP)
> outdated on arrival

>>106135296
Hobby servers. For some reason it removed php-libraries and php-fpm during the update and I had to reinstall the new versions, but not a biggie. A new version of dovecot was also incompatible with my old config files, because they changed some config directives, but that's not Debian's fault.

Other than that, no issues. Postgresql upgrade was easy with pg_upgradecluster.

Still no mate 1.28...

>>106128051 (OP)
Great. Really, just great.
Powerful, too.

>>106128051 (OP)
sorry, i don't rape children

>>106135336
>tried and tested on arrival
ftfy
>but who am i kidding
honestly, the bleeding edge sometimes makes up for (accidental) update regression on rolling systems

>>106135671
you sound like a winblows user anyway

>>106128051 (OP)
Will it still support 32-bit CPUs?

>>106135671
This is the type of memes you see teens nowadays post on twitter. Hang yourself.

>>106136016
nope

>>106134335
>zoomie
Toy Story 3 (plastic dinosoar) and S1E6 Boast Busters (blue horse) came out 154 days apart

>>106136016
Partial support, AFAIK, i.e. not every amd64 deb package is available in i386.
At minimum, it's still unofficially supported.
IIRC, there was talk of LMDE to include a 32-bit version, since Debian is now the only (so far official) 32-bit base available, as Canonical has deprecated 32-bit Ubuntu.

>>106132726
I ran unstable for a year or so, nothing happened because nothing ever happens.

>>106136297
I once tried to run unstable and wine was broken. Maybe really bad luck on my part

>>106134303
the chud ones quit

>debian trixie
>trixie
based

>>106136389
Jesus gives courage in the face of tyranny

>>106136109
still doesn't make me want to rape children

Why would i use a child rapist infested Canonical controlled distribution that kicks maintainers out of wrong think?

>>106136446
>Debian
>Canonical controlled
Reaching critical levels of schizo here.

>>106134335
trixie was in toy story 1

>>106136389
Wrong Trixie

>>106128633
>>106135671
>>106136446
This guy definitely seems bad, but this is some cancel culture shit as well, just from the "other" side, the way it's being shilled here.

I'm tired of cleaning and reinstalling Leap at every 15 months. Maybe it's time to try Debian KDE.

>>106128633
>A Child Sexual Predator Built Your Desktop
So what? Child sexual predators made many my favorite movies and albums too. I'm pretty sure quite a few of them also built the roads I drive on. Who could possibly care about this shit?

>>106137940
I will continue to listen to Gary Glitter

13 is an unlucky number so I will stay far away from this release

>>106137383
Well, the child rapist is no longer a Canonical employee, but keeps being a Debian maintainer.
Debian is literally slurping up the disgusting vermin that Canonical drops. And all of this while they kick out legit community contributors for wrong think.

Debian is the most woke corporate distribution there is. It is more corporate than the corporate product itself, because for their own product, Canonical has to keep some responsibility, while in Debian, the corporation can do whatever the fuck it wants.

>>106132726
>in reasonable workplaces
Where we run RHEL because we aren't poors

>>106138163
RHEL is a scam and unless you are forced by the government to use it - for certifications - you should not use it.

>>106138189
>I am a poor
Yes, we should run an OS with no service contracts because we're just so cool we don't need them
Keep pooring, poor

>>106138189
the company I work for (multinational) has its whole infrastructure running under ESXi and RHEL because of support

>>106138148
>Well, the child rapist
Is this the new "communist"

>>106138205
Who said "no service contracts"?
Are you retarded?
You can get service contracts for everything, both Suse and Canonical offer contracts for distributions that they don't even made themselves.

RHEL isn't used because it is good, it is used because the government forces their contractors to use it.
RedHats service is complete utter crap. They never resolve anything.
And they always jew themselves out of contract. Like if you want LibreOffice, you have to use a third party repo, cause they don't offer it, and if you install this, RedHat doesn't have to give you support anymore.

RedHat is literally surviving on government gibs. Not a single thinking person would buy their product if they wouldn't be forced to it.

>>106138220
And does that "multinational" make deals with any US government entity?

>>106138270
it does not

>>106138163
RedHat literally beta tests their XFS filesystem on enterprise customers production machines.

>>106138279
then you are working for the dumbest "multinational" corporation in existence

>>106138291
Weird because we don't use that FS, not even secretly
Tell me more thirdhand knowledge you read on a forum

>>106138301
Sure, they make a lot of money and pay me good so

>>106138301
>My reply is an adhom
You don't actually have a job, be silent

>>106138310
>we don't use that FS
Then you are going against RedHats recommendations.
Imagine being a tinker tranny inside a corporation. If you want a service contract, maybe use the product that ships with what you want in the first place?

>>106138318
The multinational corporation i work for, dropped RedHat after the Microsoft Azure hack happened.
Which happened because of an exploit in RHEL.

>>106138337
>Then you are going against RedHats recommendations.
And? We aren't violating our contract or being downgraded
Tell me more nothingburgers

>>106138358
It's a objectively dumb decision and makes you less secure.
RedHat isn't able to give you any valuable support here, when it matters.
Have fun getting hacked like those other retards who trusted RHEL.

>>106138389
>objectively
This isn't /v/ where that word means what you think it means, talk like a grownup
>Have fun getting hacked like those other retards who trusted RHEL.
If you think the server is the first or even second line of security in our ecosystem you continue to tell people you're unemployed

>>106138421
It is objective truth that when you have a service contract, you will get a better service if you use what the contract suggests you to be using.
That is an indisputable fact.

>>106138301
more realistically, he's working for either a dead-end shop that relies on enterprise support for their 2002 app or his company has more lawyers than developers. for these poor bastards, it still makes sense to pay up.

source: worked at RH for 10 years and left after IBM took over

>>106138421
>If you think the server is the first or even second line of security in our ecosystem
Didn't save Microsoft Azure from getting hacked because of RHEL.
The Azure hack happened on RHEL machines that were secluded engineering machines, without internet connection, inside a room that you could only enter with keycard while documenting your stay.

>>106138448
>he's working for either a dead-end shop that relies on enterprise support for their 2002 app or his company has more lawyers than developers
I wish, I work for an advertisement company

>>106138448
It's either a government contractor (which most American companies are), or someone who is forced by higher-ups to keep using what they used fifteen years ago, even thought that all original reasons for choosing it are long gone.

>>106138436
>fact
As it turns out my info was outdated, xfs is the default FS for the directories we interact with directly (and the other purpose-driven FSes are for system and the like) and you're correct. My apologies.
>>106138450
Are you talking about the one from 9 years ago that required RHEL to be running inside Azure? Because we didn't do that then and we aren't doing it now.

>>106138470
doubt

>>106138474
lol. most of the customers i worked with were not government contractors (also, what an idiotic claim), they were companies who'd bought into SysV derivatives in the '80s but didn't have the technical expertise in-house to keep things working with newer OS / hardware releases. for them, paying out the ass to have me patch and re-release their line printer every couple years was the only real option.

>>106138560
>doubt
your denial entertains me

The post-wall woman in the middle-management of my American advertising company decided that we use RHEL, because RedHat invited her to a seminar where she learned about DEI values and inclusivity.

This is the word of god.
This is the prove that RHEL is great.
Forgot all objective facts.

>>106138560
>most of the customers i worked with were not government contractors
You only need one.
Red Hat is indeed a company that only exists on government gibs.
They don't exist because they have a quality product or good service, they exist because the government forces its corporations to buy their contracts.
>also, what an idiotic claim
The US government is massive. Everybody who comes from any other country and gains insights into the USA, will tell you that the US government has far more corporate outreach than anyone else. Probably even more than the CPC.
A corporation in China needs to employ some dude who acts as speaker and contact person for the CPC.
A corporation in the USA is forced by the government into what software it uses, the racial composition of what they are allowed to hire, from what country they are allowed to buy, a blacklist of whom they are allowed to do business with (internally!), is forced to "donate" to political campaigns and to hire ex-politicians.

When the vax mandate for government employees and contractors in the USA happened, suddenly a HUGE percentage of Americans either had to take the vax or get fired.
This showed you just how fucking communist your free capitalist society is.

>>106138686
oh i see now, you're an enlightened citizen of the world who has a healthy skepticism of vaccines.

yes, the us government owns the entire global economy, which is, in fact, a communist regime as you brilliantly point out.

>>106138148
>Debian is the most woke corporate distribution there is.
Based. I was on the fence but will definitely be installing it now.

>>106138686
>They don't exist because they have a quality product or good service
They patched some of the more heinous open source security libraries when no one else could. That implies they have both. Stay poor, poor.