Thread 106141200

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high-end: consider 2x48GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: *Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used 4090 or 3090 Ti
*Arc: Driver overhead issue causes reduced performance on older AMD and Intel platforms. Only buy at MSRP for use in a newer AM5 or Intel system with sufficient CPU performance. Consider GeForce and Radeon alternatives for upgrading an older system.

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>105940279

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106135827

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super specs: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

>Omissions
RTX 5060 Ti: Both memory configs cost more than 9060 XT 16GB for the same performance and half the PCIe lanes. Only buy if you need cuda or value GeForce features that highly.
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

I want a real answer from people who actually have a 4090. Is it worth it? Have a 7900gre and I can play most of my games with no issues, but there are a few that I have no chance of pushing to 120 4k so Ive been thinking of getting a used 4090. How worth is it realistically besides just bragging rights?

>>106141256
Not worth the premium in the used market atm.
You need to rely on (M)FG for the highest 4K settings, and they're imperfect solutions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6Im3ccbO0

>>106141200 (OP)
>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>>106141200 (OP)
are TUF cards a meme?

>>106141256
I got a 4090 FE/MSRP shortly after release and don't regret it at all, but like the other anon said I don't think I would get one in the current market

>>106141256
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/heres-what-happened-to-the-12vhpwr-power-cable-of-our-nvidia-rtx-4090-after-two-years-of-continuous-work/
Definitely not worth paying $1000+ for a used card that depending on how much use it's seen could very likely have a degraded even if the melting is only cosmetic so far connector. Just waitfag however long it takes to buy a 9070 XT as close to MSRP as you can then sell the 7900gre to cover probably at least half the cost of the upgrade, you'll get a bit of raw performance uplift 25 to 30 percent and be able to use FSR 4 in 90 percent of games either natively or via optiscaler to push higher fps at 4k.

>>106141376
They're fine quality-wise, but they have an expensive premium.

OH LOOK AT THAT

THE CPU YOU FAGGOTS ALL SAID "AMD HAS NO REASON TO LAUNCH" "NO GAINS FROM IT AMD SAID SO" "WELL ACKSUALLY I LOVE CORE PARKING" IS LAUNCHING AFTER ALL

WAITGODS WE WON

>>106141595
so, we are getting a 9999x2x3d chips?

>>106141595
Cucked with 16 slower cores
lmao, chudies will pay for lower performance

>>106141595
>"WELL ACKSUALLY I LOVE CORE PARKING"
Most games will still have to utilize one CCX due to cross-CCD latency.
That cross-CCD latency causes massive performance penalties, where you can see a 9950X performing worse than a 5600X or a 12600K.

>>106141683
i thought the 9950x3d fixed that?

>>106141595
>>106141675
Yeah the dual X3D chip will be clocked lower. it only makes sense for niche applications where both ccds need it (WoW private servers)

>>106141718
They've managed to reduce cross-cluster latency closer to the previous gen values, but you can't eliminate it.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-microcode-improves-cross-ccd-latency-on-ryzen-9000-cpus-ryzen-9-9900x-and-ryzen-9-9950x-cross-ccd-latency-cut-in-half-to-match-previous-gen-models

>>106141718
It depends on the OS scheduler.
On linux you can configure the scheduler to prioritize the faster cores and you can tell it to use only x3d cores when gaming

>>106141595
>WAITGODS WE WON
>*RETARDS THAT DONT UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS WE WON
FTFY, enjoy the stutters everytime the game switches to using a core on a different ccd. AMD is only considering this because retards that don't understand how chiplets work will just buy it because they think more always equals better. Smart wait Chad's are holding out for zen6 and a 12 cores on one ccd x3d cpu. That will last probably 10 years.

>>106141877
>CORE PARKING IS LE GOOD
>XBOX GAME BAR IS LE GOOD
AHAHAHAHA SEETHE ON

>>106141904
regard with oxidized cpu

>>106141683
>Most games will still have to utilize one CCX due to cross-CCD latency.
>That cross-CCD latency causes massive performance penalties
Jufes tested this and said it was fake news, one of the rare few instances The Jew man glazes amd contrary to techtubers
crazy

your daily dose of $800 nvidia gpu requires upscaling to look like 1707x960

>>106141952
>4k 30 fps average

>>106141200 (OP)
I've spent a few hours looking into this now and it doesn't look like there's an easy way to get greater than 60hz via docking station through HDMI at 1440p. Theyre all marketed as 4k @ 60hz so youd think 2k should be able to get better refresh, but every dock I've checked maxes out at 60hz. Looked into USB C to HDMI adapters and user manual specifically noted that that will cap things at 60hz. Frustrated as it seems these docks should be capable of so much more, even limited to HDMI, but what do I know

>>106141987
>ALWAYS USED UPSCALING
so its like 1440p30fps

>>106141952
>UE5

>>106141952
its weird to see modern games still say windows 10 when its getting dropped in 2 months

>if i turn on the filename randomizer no one will notice its me, even tho i always post the same fucking images
what did he meme by this

which one is pcbg's choice?

>>106142085
Unhealthy obsession.
>>106141194

>>106141952
>30 and 60 FPS targets
UE5 and it's consequences have been a disaster for the gamer race

>>106142126
Between those, the Herman Miller

>>106142140
It's been like that since UE3. Of course UE5 is still worse for other reasons.

>>106141933
Jewfus literally just lies and says the opposite of whatever the current tech media consensus is in order to present himself as having better knowledge then everyone. All with the goal of eventually shilling you into paying hundreds of dollars for that retarded course where he teaches you how to overclock.

>>106142143
they both are HMs

>>106142383
Oh, left then. My wife uses an Aeron and it's comfy. Never saw right before, thats the Embody right? The back of the chair gives me the creeps

>>106141595
What is a dual-CPU?

>>106142126
Steelcase Leap. Like the Aeron too though but the mesh is not great in colder climates. Never tried the Embody; too expensive even used. Lower volume I guess.

>>106142126
I bought a refurbished leap and I doubt I'll need another chair unless it breaks eventually.

https://crandalloffice.com/collections/crandall-remanufactured-chairs/products/crandall-remanufactured-steelcase-462-leap-v2-office-chair

>>106142438
It's a rumored new Ryzen 9000 CPU with both compute chiplets having 3D-VCache.
9950X3D has one CCX (single-stack 3D VCache) and one regular CCD.

>>106142438
It's not dual CPU it's dual X3D. You can say the current 9950X3D is divided in half and has 3D cache on one half only. For games and shit you want to make sure your OS isn't scheduling threads to the half of the cores that don't have the 3D cache. The rumored dual X3D wouldn't have this problem.

>>106142650
I thought amd didnt do dual x3d because it cant be utilized in games so its 100% waste

My pc is just prepetually stuck in a repair boot loop
I have a gigabyte auros b650 motherboard
What happen is that it says repairing automatic repair > diagnosing your PC and the I get to this screen

I just built this pc like a year ago and purchased the parts at the recommendations of some anons here and On the off chance that someone knows how to fix this I came back

>>106142667
That's what was assumed in the past. Either they want more money from suckers or they magically fixed the latency issue.

>>106142741
Not worth trying to fix that type of shit. Just make sure your backups are up to date, then wipe the boot drive and reinstall Windows.

>>106142741
What's your memory kit's speed? It might be causing instabilities if it's faster than 6000MT/s.
Go to the board BIOS and disable EXPO. If it's caused by the DRAM, you will have to reinstall the OS.
You can set the manual speed afterwards to 6000MT/s and some simple primary timing like 30 tCAS, 40 tRCD, and 40 tRP.
You can leave tRAS & voltages on [Auto].

This is a likely issue if the BIOS is automatically trying to run 6400MT/s in 1:1 MEMCLK:UCLK, but most boards drop down to 1:2 mode for stability.

>>106142824
Strix Halo fixed the latency right?

>>106142824
I thought the "fix" was making larger ccd, like 12-16 cores and have 1 set of 3xd on top of that

gotta wait for benchmarks to see if the 1ccd cpu falls behind the 2 ccd chips I suppose

>>106142126
I have a leap 2 before it was discontinued or something. Pretty comfortable but I'm considering getting the embody to accomodate the lengthy times my ass sits in this spot for work and then 'play'. I wish I could convince those assholes at herman miller to allow the embody to recline farther though.

how much is enough for a dedicated os drive these days? should i reuse my decade old 256gb samshit sata ssd at 88% health or get something newer?

anyone have issues with the alienware AW2725D yet?

it seems too good to be true.

>>106143018
its not cheaper than 360hz models that periodically go on sale

>>106143029
yea but I dont get 360 FPS in very many games

How big a gamble are windows and office keys off G2A?
When I started googling I found a lot a reddit seethe about it

>>106143062
just use frame gen

>>106143012
>how much is enough
Trick question. It's never enough.

nice psu corsair

https://streamable.com/y9vyz7

>>106143104
whats the problem

How did people fall for this RGB shit?? All this tiny cables and connectors rattling everywhere. Now I wish I had spent longer to specifically find no RGB parts

>>106141595
You still don't understand how dual CCD L3 cache works. It's not one giant blob if processes have threads on both.

>>106143125
"influencers" showing off their 1337 builds with rainbow colors which people wanted to copy which companies started pandering to and now here we are.

>>106143064
https://massgrave.dev/
The keys you buy from those gray market sites may not work after you update the board bios.

>>106143161
my key works fine
still last I heard chink sites sell way cheaper keys than kinguin and such so just buy those instead

Using unknown "activators" is a great way to get a keylogger

>>106143119
that kind of screaming sound is normal to you?

>>106143191
You can wipe the SSD and reinstall Windows after activation if you’re paranoid about MAS.

>>106143210
your phone mic isnt great at capturing it and youd need to use editing software to make it clear versus no sound

idk, you can always return the psu, or try lower gpu wattage, cap system frame rate to try and reduce it

>>106141683
>9950x3d that low
I don't appreciate this for the new CPU I've been hyping myself up to get.

>>106141595
also the latest hardware unboked videos about the x3d on 3 gpus just exposed amd users and now thy're in suicide watch, the difference can only be seen on a 5090, the rest, an i5 for less than half the price does the same job

>>106142126
hot and humid area? pick the mesh

>>106143380
CPUs with two CCDs or too many e-cores perform badly in Total War games because Creative Assembly has been delaying a much-needed game engine upgrade.
Gamers Nexus stopped benchmarking that game for their newer CPUs reviews because it's a waste of their time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhGsQvDaEPo

>>106143445
If that's the problem I imagine it's easy to solve by just setting affinity or on AMD hybrid X3D CPUs maybe even by setting cache priority in the BIOS and forgetting about it. Did they try any of those?

>$120 Aliexpress CPU + Mobo + Ram Combo with a Ryzen 5 3600 and 16gb of ram
>$140 AMD Radeon RX 6600
>$15 ID-COOLING cooler
>$50 Thermaltake Smart PSU
>$40 Zalman case
>$50 Timetec 1 TB M.2 SSD
Total: $415
Thoughts?

Stonk prices are back up. Time to take profit and buy a new PC

>>106143518
I see people still complaining about core parking in general.

Sup, /g/ents
Is anyone here familiar with RMA processes? Is it common for the manufacturer/support/store/whatever to ask destruction/rendering useless the faulty part at hand, before shipping in another one? Specifically, clipping cords in both ends

>>106143570
What I said isn't core parking, core parking is the automatic driver thing that tries to be clever about it.

>>106143582
Some have a policy to ask you to destroy the cord, others don't. I actually had one ask me to destroy the core for a wireless mouse. I asked them if they were serious and they said yes.

heterogenous CPUs was a mistake
core parking was a mistake
big.LITTLE was a mistake
making schedulers figure out all this this crap was a mistake

>>106143518
Gamers Nexus and other PC hardware reviewers run their benchmarks using the stock BIOS configuration because their target audience is the more casual PC gamer.

>>106143445
>profiling a real world application is a waste of time, goyim
Why do people take these slop tubers serious?

This faggot steve switches between metrics that are convenient for whichever brand is paying him the post. for what? So he can claim "ooo look +200 fps between <cpu current year> and <cpu current year - 2>" despite blatant stagnation?

>>106143528
save more money

>>106143644
paying him the most*

>>106143582
SOP if they can't be bothered to ask you to ship the broken product back to them.
Noctua asks you to send proof of destroying the problematic fan.

>>106143582
>Specifically, clipping cords in both ends
yep
they do this shit for a bunch of stuff now
basically everything really
https://youtu.be/HC62cn-02Ps
welcome to the suck

>>106143644
Benchmarking the Total War engine is a waste of everyone's time; it's not well-maintained.
Creative Assembly's been faking "in-game footage" previews with scripted battles, then the programmers had to find a way to replicate that footage within the archaic engine's limitations.

https://medium.com/@julianmckinlay/total-war-rome-ii-and-creative-assembly-my-statement-ten-years-on-d964f65b0a8f

>>106143640
That's fair enough, benchmarking everything at default settings for their charts. Still if you can flip a setting or 2 and solve a major performance issue I feel like they should be looking into that and mentioning it as an aside at the very least.

Not for building a gaming PC, but what hardware should I get for storing and redundant-RAIDing internet backups? Like a cheap desktop and drive slots?

>>106143929
more >>>/g/hsg but how much storage and how many drives

Ummm.... Nvidiasissyclittyleakers.....
I thought jensen was winning and ayyymd was going bankrupt....... why is xhe lower xher prices?

>>106144267
>in china
it's a nothing burger, find something else to troll about

>>106144267
Isn't this exactly what they did to the 40s when the supers came out?

9950x3d along with 96GB of ram ordered for my machine that I just play old mmos and watch movies on. Time to convince my neighbor to buy my 5070ti so I can snag a 5090 now that they're available. I'm thinking it's going to be a comfy winter.

>>106144267
must be a sabotage done by amd nexus and amd unboxed
t. /pcbg/

>>106144267
marketing tactic to capture widest breadth of the market
>rich buy card when brand new for $$$$$
>poors buy card when price $$

>>106144390
>if you lower the price people buy more
wow nvidia truly is lightyears ahead

>>106144267
They have to lower the prices so people don't feel as cucked when the actual 5000 series comes out. Imagine spendong $1500 on a 16gb 5080 and then having the 24gb 5070ti come out like 5 months later. Samsung circumcised these cards with 2gb modules and that's why they were dogshit at launch and the 5070 is BARELY better than a 4070 super.

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>106144617
Is this a 32 inch screen?

I picked up an RX 580 because my VEGA 64 started failing. VEGA was just having a temper tantrum; apparently, it now works just fine. But I think part of the issue is that the design of the card lets it cook itself to death after about an hour or so of heavy use. So does anyone know a good screwdriver set for swapping the heatsink and fans from the cards? I have access to some that are the right size and head, but are long as fuck and not made for this kind of work.

>>106144651
No this is patrick

>>106144656
I was hoping you wouldn't be a faggot despite the shitpost but I guess hope rides alone.

>>106144654
Sir status???

>>106144651
Based on the proportions of the screen to the gsync sticker, it's probably a 27 inch display

>>106141200 (OP)

Why OP won't put up thermal paste recommendations?

Also, recommend thermal pastes.

>use case
Standard PC usage, 7700X, using a NH-U12A

>>106144666
I don't know what you're saying, but the screws are starting to strip from using the long bois. They were made for engines, not delicate computer hardware.

>>106141205
>5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB
release date and price plz

>>106144711
phase change pads dominate the discussion since that one ltt video
the problem is some of the cheaper stuff is fake and doesnt perform as well

>>106144706
I like how thin the bezels are.

>>106144711
Just use anything. You can even use mayonnaise if you want to.
https://youtu.be/ClfGb1z6w0A

>>106144729
christmas
price for 5070 ti 24gb is between (soon lowered) 5070 ti price and 5080
guess its 5070 ti mspr + 100 + tip

>>106144711
Burger King Ranch

>>106144746
It's just the typical lg display bezel
The top and sides do have a 3mm wider bezel that's hidden under the glass

>>106144761
And Americans wonder why they are facing a health crisis.

>>106144545
Moar VRAM isn't really going to make the cards run any faster, unless they were heavily VRAM starved which isn't really the case with 16GB cards and in most situations. They're just going to run about the same but have more VRAM, which I guess the AI ERP enthusiasts will paint the ceiling white over, or something.

>>106144856
5080 super will come with faster 34gbps vram and be factory OCd to be at least 5-10% faster

>>106144937
You can probably get that epin 5% by dragging sliders yourself, it's effectively fucking nothing.

>>106144959
most people never OC so the 5080S 24gb will be faster than their "old" 5080 16gb and hopefully not cost the same or they will kys themselves

>>106144711
Noctua NT-H2, Arctic MX-6, and Thermal Grizzly Duronaut if you want a paste that pumps out less and is designed with longevity in mind.
PTM 7950 or other good phase-change materials if you want an even longer-lasting TIM. This is good for GPUs or laptops.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1mh6ius/performance_uplift_58088/
FREE PERFORMANCE WITH NEW DRIVER
NVIDIA WON
THANK YOU NVIDIA!

>>106144971
Anon nobody is going to give a flying fuck over 5% perf difference.

>>106145009
they will if they had dropped $1.3k on a gpu that already got its resale value destroyed by something faster in less than a year

Gonna reuse the Fuma 2 I have. Hoping I can shave off $250 or so from total waiting for sales. 5080 is placeholder until super comes out.
Thought about a used 4090 but since they do melt themselves its riskier than usual.
Also might go with 9800X3D instead.

>>106145205
Looks fine for gaming, I would use an AIO for the 9950X3D if you're using all those cores in productivity apps.

>>106145035
You act like a graphics card is some sort of investment. You buy one to play video games. If you've been playing video games on yours for half a year and then a new model comes out that's 5% faster, but your card is still performing as it always did and playing your games, you're not going to give a single fuck.

Now if you're an AIfag and bought a 16GB card instead of 24GB for the same price then you may experience some buttfrustration over the VRAM.

>>106145205
4090 would be a way better buy than a 5080 if you can find one in good condition. It's faster and already comes with more VRAM.

>>106144711
Most coolers come packaged with paste, a guarantee if the manufacturer has their own brand. You just use that. Spending money on "better" paste is an even worse value-perf proposition than replacing your fans with Noctuas.

>>106145339
even the stock paste 600€ gpus use is some cheapest chink shit

>>106145311
You aren't buying a 5080 to play videogames, you can aready do that on a 3060. You're buying it to have more than the next person

>>106145376
That's some weird projection right there.
>3060
It's super fucking slow which means you get bad image quality and low performance. Playing games like that sucks.

>>106145311
You're acting as if the exact same scenario didn't play out last gen
It already happened with the 4070ti and from what I'm seeing, 4070ti bag holders have to be content with getting slightly better than 4070S prices while the 4070ti super owners are eating good

>>106145400
Uhhh excuse me but it has dlss™

>>106144761
Imagine being a company that makes silver-included paste that is barely better than tooth cleaner.

how do we cope with the absolute state of display technology?

Well, my 4080 Super is dying after two years, I have to underclock it so it's mostly stable. I ordered a 5080, it's on the way. I was trying to hold out for the 5080 Super. At least the prices have came down. I'm sure that when the 5080 Super does come out around Christmas it'll be $1500+ anyway, that is if it's not sold out in minutes.

>>106145503
well we anime consumers buy Va minileds for static content with nice image quality, and oled tvs/monitors when the income levels reach >1000€ a month which ensures ability to re-buy a display after it burns in in 3-5 years

>>106145503
There's nothing to cope about. The industry was garbage just 6 years ago before we had affordable oled displays that could do hdr10 true black

>>106145508
Don't these come with a 3 year warranty?

>>106145531
I'm sure my overclocking would void that either way. The real bummer is that I won't be able to resell it because I'm not going to scam someone with a dying card.

>>106145503
I will cope by laughing at the possibility that everyone could be using a QDLEL monitor in 10 years time.

>>106145508
but it came out 18 months ago

>>106144308
A multiboxing monster.

>>106144997
fine wine

>>106144308
Imagine how fast a self hosted 2004scape server could run on that bad boy

>>106145563
Oh, last summer not two summers ago. I'm getting old, time flies.

>>106145516
3-5 years is generous
my aw3423dw had noticeable uneven color shift on the parts outside of the 16:9 portion after a month

>>106145671
black, white, yellow or red?

>>106144997
>Spamming the same post for literally 11 years straight
So is it even the same person anymore? I refuse to believe someone is this fatherless and unloved that this has become their daily ritual for over a decade now to try and fill the void.

>>106144997
performance improvement is just icing on the cake
this driver has a gorillion game specific fixes too

>>106145713
why does free performance from driver updates for GeForce owners make you upset?

How is the cooling of the 5080 FE?

Assuming both are free, is Linux or Windows better for gaming?

>>106144760
danke

>>106145871
linux has better performance but have a higher chance of compatibility problems

I'm debating between 32 gigs and 64 gigs of ram. Surely games can't slurp more than 32 gigs right?

>>106146029
32 is fine for gayming

>>106146029
A single game won't, but the bloatware, launchers, and open browser might. 64 is a lot. It's hard to imagine needing more than 32 unless you're multitasking with 100+ tabs.

>>106146029
windows slurps 10gb+ easily and will continue to get more bloated

>>106145871
>>106145962
Also, older Windows programs are getting increasingly worse compatibility with 10/11, so Linux compatibility has surpassed Windows in that niche.

is acer gud for gpus
pic rel is 730 bucks

>>106146029
You can't judge the readout on the RAM, it may not be accurate to how much is actually needed at a given time. Some of it is just holding prior data to be garbage'd in time. The only people who need 64+ are productivity prosumers who already definitively know the answer to their question, or people who don't close their tabs for whatever reason.

How do you people even do that? I close a tab once I'm done with it, I close the window when I'm done with it. I'm not going back and forth through miles of tabs, neither for work nor leisure.

>>106146248
if you dont get 64gb ddr5 for local llm what are you even doing

>>106145542
They don't actually check for overclocking. What matters is that it doesn't have any physical damage and in some countries, still has the original deal on the screw. Try requesting an RMA, no harm in trying. Best case, your 4080 gets replaced with a 5080 due to lack of 4080Supers in stock

>>106144267
why is this a bad thing again?
oh wait l, you’re scared that nvidia will sell even more units now lol
AMD loses again ;)

>>106144757
wish I had a cute russian husband :(

Is wood still cool?

>>106146741
Never was, beaver.

>>106146741
Never was. Noctua fans are though.

What are good cases that come with many preinstalled fans? I prefer not to buy them separately if possible.

>>106146757
>Never was
>>106146764
>Never was
What a hot take lol

>>106146803
Lancool 207. It's also easily the best-value case besides.

>>106146834
There is precisely one good looking case with wood accents and it came out on the ass end of the trend.

>>106146741
Wood jammed into metal frames looked bad. It was the standard during that very brief fad period and so a lot of cases ended up looking bad. Big metal, plastic and glass boxes with streaks of brown at the front. If you want to make a case that is wood themed the entire thing should look like a wooden box with some metal reinforcements. Look at classic jukeboxes for inspiration.

Noctuas look bad in wood builds because they explicitly do not look like wood. Like cancerous mushrooms sticking onto the inner surfaces. Maybe that might be the intention though.

>>106146899
>Noctuas look bad
You don't need the extra word salad, this part was already enough.

>>106146741
Yes, still the best looking case eva.
Source: a North owner

any beige box cases where an atx board could fit right in without having to modify it too much? thought it'd be funny to put a decent setup in some old 90s looking thing

>>106147102
FLP02

>>106147135
more like flop lmaooo

which 9070 XT models are the better ones and which should be avoided?

>>106147102
Most of them; ATX has been around for a looong time. Obviously there's some pitfalls - drive cages, top mounted PSUs, bad airflow, etc. - but it's perfectly possible. By the way, if you buy/take it from a recycling centre you'll probably need to buy standoffs and stuff separately.

>>106146157
It's fine but buy the microcenter replacement guarantee. They do not do *actually* have a manufacturers warranty.

>>106147151
It will be sold out immediately upon release.

>>106147160
only fat, old, balding boomers will buy it.

>>106147152
Top tier: powercolor and sapphire
Mid: xfx and asus
Low: gigabyte and asrock

>>106147166
And it will be sold out and filled with drives in every bay

>>106147178
thanks I'll go from there

>>106147182
nooo not the heckin' 5.25" bays!

>>106147154
Also buy a drill and a dremel and add the airflow you want

>>106143741
>mucho texto cope when being faced with the honesty reality of no change
Can't have the goyim knowing their new $600 CPU isn't an upgrade for their primary use case on top of offering no advanced features for power users and enterprise.

>>106147188
Where else will I put all my stuff?

>>106147135
I want to play myst on it

>>106147205
wow, that's cool. Never thought about storing my stuff in a 5.25" bay. Too bad my North doesn't have any slots.

>>106143640
The case reviews only being stock fan configurations annoys me. It should be no fans, stock fans, and all fan spaces.

>>106147237
It's perfect for thumbdrives and io covers.

>>106147253
Did they stop doing the standardised fan testing?

>>106147261
>thumbdrives

>>106147265
He only does stock fan configurations never all fan slots. Who the fuck runs stock fan configurations with no extra fans?

>>106147274
>he doesnt keep multiple os thumbdrives

>>106147294
Who the fuck uses the word "thumb drive"?

>>106147315
18+ website, Buddy

>>106147315
People who like optical drive bays

>>106147288
Used to be they'd also run tests with 2x A14 + 1xA12 but it seems they dropped that.

>Who the fuck runs stock fan configurations with no extra fans?
When it comes to midrange cases with a good complement of stock fans I'd guess >90% of people. Why would you, as a regular buyer, add more when the case gets perfectly good thermals OOTB?

>>106147338
Because I already have like 9 extra fans like anybody who already has has a pc before. Most people aren't 15 and building their very first computer.

>>106147288
Too busy flinging shit at companies instead of testing components

>>106147343
Me too bro but I'm not talking about people like us.

>>106147395
I think most people interested in 30 minute long case reviews have owned a computer before and have fans. He isn't linus tech tips.

>>106147338
Because the point for the comparison is to see how each case stacks up against each other, not how it does at stock. That is mostly pointless information. Those who don't care about adding more fans will happily accept a +5C case without ever noticing it. Those who care will want to know whether their new case has the potential to be good or has serious inherent flaws that cannot be overcome. Benchmarking stock configs is pointless and also limits you to cases that come with fans.

>>106147333
>>106147334
Just call them "pendrive" and "optical disk drive", like every healthy, normal people.

>>106147429
I have never once in my life heard anybody call them a pendrive.

>>106145503
OLED is an absolute meme tech. Protip: infinite contrast doesn't exist, you can only fit so many color gradations on a 4000 pixel long monitor and bright highlights... blind you to any contrast, as your pupils shut down.

>>106147459
OLED is beautiful, unlike you.

>>106147350
And interviewing Noctua for the 10th time about how they tweaked their fan blade shape again for -0.5dB.

Is this a good buy for 200 euros on sale?

Why *don't* case manufacturers make feet that are tall enough to put things underneath and have plenty of clearance to reduce dust intake? Or adjustable feet for that matter? It's just an extra screw mount per feet.

Why don't AIO manufacturers instead of putting useless decos on the pump block even on budget models try putting a single "master" screw on the top that is connected to the mounting screws or some other solution? You rotate that one screw and it applies pressure equally on all sides. I can think of simple ways to retain it without relying solely on friction so it'd be easy to make secure.

I am retarded and I cannot choose between 5060Ti 16Gb and 9070xt.

On one hand I want better performance in games, but on the other hand I want to be able to play around with some sloppa generation.

No, I am not going to buy anything with a 12V connector.

>>106147504
PCIe Slots: 5x16, 4x1, 4x1, 4x1
Storage: 1*5x4, 2*4x4, 1*3x2

- M.2_2 (4x4) shares bandwidth with PCIEX16(G4)_1 (4x1); using one disables the other.
- M.2_3 (4x4), if occupied, disables both PCIEX16(G4)_2 and PCIEX16(G4)_3 (both 4x1).
- M.2_4 (3x2) shares bandwidth with SATA6G_1 and SATA6G_2; using this M.2 slot disables both SATA ports.

Who asked for this?

>>106147552
>5060Ti 16Gb
bought this one for sloppa, its great
It runs games just fine unless you want ultrawide or 4k

>>106147556
=D

>>106147135
holy fucknuggets that's a lot for a case. i guess i'll see if i still really want it around christmas and buy it then.
>>106147154
>>106147194
yeah top mounted PSU will be a problem because i've got a fat cooler master hyper 212 on my cpu so a top mount is likely out of the question. I've got the tools to modify a case but now the issue is actually getting a case since i'm in sydney and maybe i'm not looking in the right places but it's hard to find old cases now. and then the issue is getting over my laziness to actually modify a case as such. my laziness may cost me about 300 bucks in a few months. wow...christmas is just four months away.

>>106142465
>>106142584
>>106142964
steelcase has no presence in my country, seem to have the best armrests though
the most annoying thing about the embody seem to be it does not have adjustable armrests back and forth
the annoying thing about the aeron is the mesh if you get too close it it, mesh chairs with a frame are not comfy if too small
they both are close to the same price on sale
now I have to find a damn show room that carry these chairs
it's all so tiring

>>106142433
yep

>>106147294
Why not one really big one wit ventoy?

>>106143018
the main negative thing about alienware oleds is they usually have a fan + limited connection ports + osd to some degree

>>106146029
games like tarkov have ram leaks or some shit and 64gb literally improves low%
just follow the rule and whatever the standard accepted ram is, the real value is double that
when people shilled 16 the real amount was 32
now the 32 is the shilled amount 64-96gb is the real amount

>16GB
>128bit

>>106144711
I just bought a tube of overpriced stuff from the German, surely the extreme stuff will justify the price increase. Probably all a scam, but i'll give it a shot and just do ptm next time if it manages to not work.

>>106147425
But mid towers with 3 fans are better at cooling than full towers with 10 140mm case fans

>5700x3d
>rtx 4070ti
>corsair rm850x psu - purchased 6 months ago

bought a new 4k oled display last month, and my PC has been randomly crashing ever since. when it happens, both my displays go out, audio continues to play, peripherals continue to have power, fans all ramp up to 100%. i can use remote desktop to log into the system and see the cursor move when i move the mouse but with no graphics output, so the system is /somewhat/ responsive still. event viewer has nothing for the time other than an unexpected shutdown:
>The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

i've noticed that it happens more when there's appliances running on this side of the house, but it'll also just happen randomly at 5am while it's idling. all i can think of is that the circuit my system is on is sketchy and this new monitor is bringing the total load high enough that it all shits the bed, which an AVR UPS could solve

any ideas?

>>106147795
Could be, yes, but my immediate thought is Nvidia's recent issues on multi-monitor. Try changing outlets/extension but also check your drivers.

>>106147795
Sounds like it. If its a driver crash of some kind you don't get the whole PC locking up and fans to 100%. Try plugging it into another side of the house for a few days?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxWxZIr2mJ8

>XeSS FG & XeLL is better than AYYMDEAD FG & Anti-Lag 2

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF AYYMDEADPOORFAGS

AYYMDEAD CAN'T INTO AI TECHNOLO/g/Y

>>106147806
i've tried:
moving the side monitor to another socket
moving the main monitor to another socket
swapping surge protector/multi-board
just updated to 580.88 so i'll see how that goes

>>106147818
can't move my setup, best i can do is get an extension cord and plug it into a socket on the other side of the room. might try that if it keeps happening this week

>>106147879
It (probably) won't help unless the sockets are on different circuits but worth trying anyway.

>>106147875
Please spend your newly acquired 20 rupees wisely.

How's ayyMD drivers nowadays?
My last experience was 5700xt and I've had nothing but issues

>>106147906
Nothing for me, I use driver only though, not the software. That's pure cancer and unnecessarily bloated which shouldn't be a thing. I wish I could enable Freesync without using the software though.

>>106147527
> You rotate that one screw and it applies pressure equally on all sides
The combined forces of four mounting points in one center screw? Reality does not bend to wishful thinking.

>>106147552
> between 5060Ti 16Gb and 9070xt.
The latter is clearly the better choice. If it was a 5070 Ti then it's harder to decide.

>>106146157
> 730 bucks

>>106146029
Some can with mods.

>>106147928
Imagine a custom gear with a Phillips / JIS face on the top side. It is spring loaded and is locked when at rest. Push it down with the screwdriver to unlock, then turn to rotate and tighten the mounting points on 4+ other locations simultaneously, as connected by a series of gears.

>>106147936
But will it work for AI gen? Last time (about half a year ago) I heard that ai gen models don't work with and cards

>>106147983
It works but slower than nvidia cards in windows.

>>106147965
Now imagine the pricetag.

>>106147135
>they couldn't even bring a CRT to the show
I bet there's not a single matching beige LCD monitor on the market either

I found this pc on fb marketplace. They're asking for $2400 for it. Is that a good deal? I plan on running it with a 45" lg gx9 oled monitor. Will it be enough to push it ya think?

>>106148431
>LIMMITED ADDITION
the seller is a blackie

>>106148431
that's a pretty cool case
if you live in romania

>>106148431
don't do it bro aaaaaaaaaa

>>106147906
New AMD drivers just came out today and they're better than Nvidia

>>106148519
>it's true
It has never been this over for Nvidia.

>>106148465
I do like the case desu, i like lambos
>>106148484
Should i ask if he'll come down to $2100? A brand new build from my nearest microcenter comes at around $2300 with a pny 5070 ti, 4tb ssd, and almost all blacked out (non rgb) aesthetics wise

Just how faster would an Nvidia card finish AI enhancement in Lightroom compared to a Radeon in the same price segment? I usually edit 32mb RAW photos and the enhancement takes like 10 seconds per photo with a 7800 XT, how faster would it be with a 5060 Ti? Half? Not even half?

I kneel...
It seems VA is much better for MiniLED. The TCL 27R83U looks very interesting

>>106148579
If this productivity then Nvidia does it 25-40% faster

>>106148671
the tcl is a bit expensive compared to the 1440p ktc

>>106148671
>VA
smeary mess
>Miniled
buggy mess

If you buy anything other than glossy qdoled in 2025 you are not white, so it seems

>NEWS
https://videocardz.com/newz/amds-next-gen-am6-socket-to-feature-over-2100-pins-may-support-am5-coolers
Socket AM6 that will support Zen 6 & Zen 7 will have much higher pin density but apparently AMD is gonna keep the plate dimensions basically the same to preserve cooler compatibility with existing ones used in AM4/5. It's a known fact that the IHS was intentionally made thicker in AM5 fro the same reason which gave them slight thermal penalty but I guess AMD figures since the chips run cooler most of the time it's worth it for continued backwards compatibility especially for enterprise/server customers that want to keep reusing as much of their hardware as possible to cut down on acquisition costs.

>>106148671
too bad VA can't really exceed 27" without curvature shenanigans due to poor viewing angles

I just realized that one should buy a ps5 pro right now if you wanna prep for gta6 release if you care at all
during may next year the prices will raise due to gta6, prices raise and sold out possibly
ps5 pro has been dipping more than it's even been, now it went up again on amazon for me

>>106148742
Yes, but it's 4K

>>106148671
For me the monitor had slight issues with white letters having rainbow colours on the edges making them less readable. The HDR if you just turn it on in windows is also just bright with everything becoming greyish outside of your focus point. With DP 2.1 it would be great but it only has 1.4 with DSC permanently turned on unless they revised it.

>>106148754
Glossy QD-OLED is quintessensial pajeetware planned obsolescence consoomer slop.
>OH YES BIG CHINK PLEASE SELL ME $1K OLED WITH (((2 year burn-in warranty)))

>>106148764
It would just be a major pain for all those gaming oems who bought AIOs that don't work for next gen

>>106148792
its a 1k+ lcd display

>>106148764
>Socket AM6 that will support Zen 6 & Zen 7
read the article again
not that a videocardz article is worth much

>>106148805
Yeah I bet a lot of cooler OEMs would be breathing down AMD's neck if they broke years of compatibility at this point, not to mention mobo OEMs that have their equipment tooled for a given socket size.

>>106148822
I forgot that Zen 6 is stilled planned to be on AM5.

>>106148806
No LCD, even if it's 4K with 9001 MiniLEDs, is worth 1k these days when OLED panels exist at that price and often cheaper.

What does /pcbg/ think about the 5060 TI 16GB version? The price is tempting.

>>106148854
I try not to think about gpus weaker than 3080 released 5 years later

>>106148764
>especially for enterprise/server customers that want to keep reusing as much of their hardware as possible to cut down on acquisition costs.
I love /pcbg/ fanfiction sometimes

>>106148806
It's not, it's 600€

>>106148875
just get the M27T6 for 300€
at least it wont have super bad pixel response time

>>106148269
It's a handful of gears hidden underneath the front plate of the pump block, less than an LCD screen.

>>106148894
It's a redesign of the block and housing, an increase in (moving!) part count, and a lot of small batch components. They also have to be made of metal with some care paid to heat-treat/wear/stress since this is presumably marketed towards users who frequently replace components. LCD screens, by comparison, cost actual pennies which is why they add them.
Don't get me wrong, I like your idea in principle but understand that it's something that's going to go on boutique $300 coolers well before (and if) it filters down to the mainstream.

>>106147608
>back and forth
I believe it does but I don't know exactly what you are looking for.
>show room
yeah that sucks. I had to drive 45 minutes to test out my steelcase. I want the embody now because I'm hoping it would accommodate my retardation a bit better and the steelcase can be used elsewhere but there are zero showrooms near me.

>>106148754
>glossy qdoled
Enjoy purple blacks and seeing your own face in anything but a pitch dark room.

>>106149088
ya, can confirm. it's really bad.

>>106146803
Antec Flux Pro

>>106148804
your skin color has been noted sar

>>106149055
>I believe it does
embody only goes side to side and up down, not in/out, front/back
kinda gay, idk why they did that and not just 4d ones
thats why the aeron has better ones

>>106149088
>Enjoy purple blacks
you have never looked at one irl

>and seeing your own face in anything
you have also never looked at one irl

>>106149097
you have never seen one irl either

>>106149088
I'm handsome, so whatever.

>>106149088
>glossy
I have a portable screen that barely functions under my primary and it's glossy. When it's on it's fine (ips, good color, bright) but when it's off it's distracting. QD OLEDs are all glossy?

>>106149118
samsung g80/g81 is the only one that has a matte layer

>>106149112
>you have never seen one irl either
I literally have one on my desk, tard. I have to turn my lights off to enjoy my real blacks.

>>106149112
>kinda gay, idk why they did that and not just 4d ones
That is definitely gay, I thought they also slid the top. For 2000 dollars you would think that you would get a chair that doesn't have downsides, but it seems I need to shop for a replacement chair like I shopped for my car.

>>106149112
Stop living in a dark cave, pajeet.
Glossy QD-OLED on the left with an obvious purple tint even with the screen on and reasonable lighting
Matte WOLED on the right.

>>106149118
The absence of a polarizer on QD OLED is the cause of the purple tint, glossy or not you'll have it, it's unavoidable, the more ambient light you have, the more pronounced the tint. Unless you play at night in a dark room, blacks will never be black.

>>106149138
then you would agree with how overblown that issue is

>>106149143
look at them irl even in these suboptimal conditions left would look better on the basis of being glossy+qd alone
the new true black panels would be a more even fight, but then you are still only at the same old woled again
there is 0 shot you have compared them irl

>>106149177
>then you would agree with how overblown that issue is
for office use like what I'm doing now? sure, it's whatever.
If I'm playing Thief: Black Parade, it's a massive issue (nooo just turn your gamma up).

>>106149143
also on video qd will always look more reddish compared to woled which is more green blue regardless or whatever it was

>>106149160
All my screens are IPS of varying quality so likely still better than two my screens.

>>106149088
Overblown issue
Hasn't bothered me for 2 years and counting but then again I don't have windows in front of my monitor streaming in sunlight

>>106149187
or use it in optimal viewing conditions

>>106149177
>the new true black panels
Fucking pajeet, all the newest panels from the past few months have horrible purple tint issues, whether it's matte or glossy, "muh true black" is marketing bullshit for consumer cattle like you. QD OLED CANNOT display true blacks as long as it lacks a polarizer.

>b-b-b-but it's the camera overblowing the issue
>b-b-b-but it's only on video I swear
Nigger, there's not a single individual owning a QD-OLED disproving the purple tint problem, all you can find is "uh, just turn off the light/close your curtains during the day bro", stop acting as if it was some kind of new tech released yesterday only you and a couple of people had access to.

>>106149143
Right looks more distracting than left unironically

>>106149143
You can adjust your ambient lighting to deal with reflections and raised blacks of a glossy coating and lack of a polarizer on QD-OLED. There is nothing you can do to deal with the foggy haze, worse gamut, and color volume collapse of matte WOLEDs.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/asus-rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdm-vs-asus-rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdp/42065/49884
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs

>>106149209
>>106149233
>>106149239
>it's not that bad!
>just turn your place in a cave!
>use it in optimal viewing conditions!

Damn, imagine paying twice the price of an LCD to risk burn-in (unavoidable, but again, ASUS/MSI drones on this board will deny this) and to have a purple screen unless you use it at a specific time of the day or put your place in a specific lighting condition.

>>106149268
The thing I've noticed about pc hardware is that the biggest haters don't even own the products they're hating on

>>106149285
Cool straw man bro. You bought a QD OLED so you have to defend it no matter what.
You can accuse your interlocutor of not having the product he's criticizing (which is an assumption to flee the debate), but it's gonna be hard to argue against all the reviews out there pointing out the same exact issue with this tech.

>>106143064
I've bought win11 pro off G2A and it's worked fine for more than two years now. But it's a marketplace so your mileage may vary depend on who is actually selling you your key.

>>106149260
I'm not saying WOLED is better overall, it's just for comparison.
You can shit on VA for being smeary, IPS for glowing and TN for its viewing angles, but then praising and recommending QD-OLED as the superior tech by telling others to ignore all the major downsides this technology has, telling them they need to do this and that and only to play at night to properly use their >$1K monitor makes you a salesman or someone in denial.

>>106149303
Nah I admit the purple glow isn't ideal. But to claim that a permanent image quality debuff matte coating is the better solution is unadulterated bullshit

>>106149241
Alot of projection here, Rashjeet
>Trueblack
I was referring to the new WOLED monitors coming out with glossy

>here's not a single individual owning a QD-OLED disproving the purple tint problem
it's an overblown sensationalized issue, if you want optimal viewing conditions for any display you should not blow light directly on your display
you combine all these issues in a worst case scenario and a glossy qdoled still looks better than all matte displays, if you had a glossy woled on the side it would be a fair comparison

>>106149268
overblown issues
the worst thing about these monitors is the firmware and osds

>>106149303
>argue against all the reviews out there pointing out the same exact issue with this tech.
sensationalized cope and trusting techtubers over your own eyes lmao

>>106149379
The screen on the right clearly looks purple, and no it's not "overblown", I'm not buying an OLED for its contrast and true blacks just to have them replaced by a purple glow, it defeats the entire purpose of having an OLED.

>>106149241
Pic is how RTINGS measures the ambient black level raise, it's completely unrealistic.
Are you some kind of tranny wearing a light up halo when you use the PC?
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/picture-quality/ambient-black-level-raise

>>106149416
>and no it's not "overblown"
it is beyond fear mongering the way they talk about it, as I said even with the downsides it looks better
>I'm not buying an OLED for its contrast and true blacks just to have them replaced by a purple glow, it defeats the entire purpose of having an OLED.
so go woled but you lose color until tandem panels for monitors come out and even then they are not as good as qd
but if you are really gonna be shining so much light on your display everything fucks up you should get a miniled because you need 2000 nits to counter act your non optimal conditions anyway

>>106149456
you can really tell which people rely on theoretical vs practical experience itt

>>106149379
That's some cool blacks you've got there, Abhijeet
>inb4 it's techtubers overblown cope

Y'all really ought to tone down the racism a notch...

>>106149456
Cool blacks bro

>>106149518
I don't see anything wrong, just play in the dark

>>106149456
You miss the point. It's done like this to measure how the screen react to ambient light. Of course blacks will never look this purple unless you flash light directly onto your screen, it's still a good indicator of how it behaves if you're not in a dark room. Unless you imply that the problem suddenly disappears if you don't flash a halo light onto it.

>>106149303
>I'm not saying WOLED is better overall, it's just for comparison.
Fair enough. Coatings are distinct from the panel tech underneath them. Samsung sells their own G60SD & G80SD QD-OLEDs with a matte finish:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-oled-g60sd-s27dg602s-vs-samsung-odyssey-oled-g80sd-s32dg80/63129/63127
And Asus just released their new XG32UCWMG and XG32UCWG WOLEDs (still using last gen panels w/MLA and not the newer Tandem versions unfortunately) with a pure glossy finish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG0E0k94WBc
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/asus-debut-two-new-rog-strix-32-woled-monitors-with-new-trueblack-glossy-coating

So you can currently have either panel tech with either coating (and even turn a matte OLED into a glossy one with the damp paper towel method to peel it off). The main difference is the polarizer which does do a good job of rejecting ambient light reflections inside the panel to reduce black level rise. It can't be added to QD-OLED because it is a top-emission structure and it kneecaps brightness efficiency which is already an Achilles's heel of OLED. WOLED can get away with it because it's still bottom-emission (part of why their RGB component brightness is bad) and having a dedicated White subpixel can juice the raw nits output at the cost of color volume.

Samsung does have a polarizer-based QD-OLED panel type that they exclusively use in mobile devices and moving away from it their next-gen polarizer-less version will increase their effective brightness from 3000 to over 5000 nits:
https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-s-latest-polariser-free-qd-oled-display-tech-hits-5-000-nits-brightness

>>106149518
>TechAeris
>Literal Who
You're also posting that screenshot out of context; he's showing the worst case where you place the monitor in direct sunlight.
That placement is also bad for WOLED displays because sunlight can degrade OLED panels.
Getting desperate here.
https://techaeris.com/2025/04/02/alienware-aw2725q-review/

>>106149619
>You're also posting that screenshot out of context; he's showing the worst case where you place the monitor in direct sunlight.
That's not what he said, and obviously you struggle with English as you left out the first part of the sentence "I suppose,".
He says that direct sunlight MAY (i.e. meaning of "to suppose") amplify the problem shown on screen.
>Literal Who
I thought big reviewers and techtubers were untrustworthy? Backpedaling now?

>>106149662
>I thought big reviewers and techtubers were untrustworthy? Backpedaling now?
I said RTINGS' ambient lighting test conditions were unrealistic. Is this how you use the PC?

>>106149619
He's addressing the brightness of the screen and using conditional, not the purple tint. It's pretty obvious you cannot read. You are now a certified Pajeet™

>>106149662
This little TechAeris of yours also didn't mention those raised blacks as a negative in his product summary.
Not a deal breaker if you can control the ambient lighting, and I'm not talking about completely turning off all the lights.

>OLED shills posting pictures of OLED monitors so I can realise how great they are through my IPS monitor
is 4chan a home for chatbot shills only, now?

>>106149682
>>106149571
It's ok, we're not forcing you to have buyer's regret.

>said RTINGS' ambient lighting test conditions were unrealistic.
No you said >>106149379 "sensationalized cope and trusting techtubers over your own eyes lmao"

>>106149706
>didn't mention
Oh, so what about "trusting techtubers over your own eyes lmao"??
So now techtubers are better sources and we cannot trust our eyes with the picture he made?

>>106149694
>not the purple tint
The point is he placed that monitor where it's exposed to sunlight, and the raised blacks were not a deal breaker in his eyes.

>>106149725
No he did not, that's your own headcanon based on your inability to read four sentences in simple English.

Yawn. Pretty funny cope from Rajneesh. QD OLED lost, CRT remains on top.

poortrannies coping because they cannot afford an OLED monitor

>>106149710
Except I didn't write that post. There is more than one person who's demoed or owns an OLED display.
I have both WOLED (TV) and a QD-OLED (monitor) display.
I was planning to return the QD-OLED monitor for a WOLED if the raised blacks turned out to be a deal breaker.
It wasn't.

>>106149725
Same old cope
>"USE YOUR OVERPRICED SCREEN IN THE DARK"
I'm not some kind of closeted faggot incel, I don't live in the dark surrounded by piss bottles.

>>106149768
Except that's not how you have to use QD-OLED monitors. Too bad you're too poor to demo it for yourself.

>>106149778
>It's ok to have a small purple tint, it's a small price to pay to have burn-ins
Again, same cope, you're not disproving the purple tint issue, you're pretty much saying it's much less pronounced than in the tests, but admitting that it's still present. No I don't want my blacks to have a small purple tint, the only reason to have OLED is for contrast and true blacks.

>>106149808
You'd have a modicum of credibility if you were able to test one yourself.
That's part of what product return windows are for: use them.
I decided to test the QD-OLED first since I already own a WOLED TV.

>>106149837
Assuming your interlocutor doesn't have the product on a gulag interior design forum is still not an argument, we've been over this.
Still, none of the possessors of QD OLED have disproved the problem, only claimed it's almost imperceptible but still there, which is the problem, or tried to flee the debate by trolling or playing retard

>>106149888
You're too poor to even test these new monitors during your legally protected product return window.
Know your place.

>>106149916
Yes I'm not spending >$1K on a true black monitor that cannot display true blacks, that's being a responsible adult.
Still not an argument.

>>106149916
>You're too poor to buy any piece of dysfunctional trash you might happen to come across
well, yes.

>>106149939
>I'm not spending
If you've kept your Amazon or whatever retailer account in good shape, they're going to honor the product warranty.
That's why I decided to try out the QD-OLED monitor. This is normal procedure for a display purchase, and why people advise you to keep the TV/monitor boxes (RMA as well).

The TrueBlack Glossy WOLED alternative for QD-OLED monitors isn't even available for purchase today.
People had to choose between grainy/hazy images of WOLED with matte/semiglossy panels for quite a while.

>>106149983
>dysfunctional trash
Poor people coping this hard.
Most of the major gaming monitor brands are supplying these QD-OLED monitors and taking on the burden of supporting these "dysfunctional trash".
QD-OLED gaming monitors have also become a key growth segment for Samsung Display.

>>106150031
>Most of the major gaming monitor brands are supplying these QD-OLED monitors
Supply/demand, doesn't mean it's superior
>taking on the burden of supporting these "dysfunctional trash".
With most brands reluctant on honoring their burn-in warranty, I wouldn't believe that.
>QD-OLED gaming monitors have also become a key growth segment for Samsung Display.
If you're pushing that much harder than miniLED/microLED, obviously it'll be more attractive than the old VA LCD samsung displays, because that's the only alternative.

>>106150031
Am I dreaming or do we have a samsung executive shilling on /pcbg/?

The new WOLEDs each have suboptimal display configs.
>ASUS WOLEDs with TrueBlack Glossy finish are still stuck with a Gen 3 panel, imagine paying the ASUS premium for this.
>Gigabyte WOLED with new Gen 4 panel stuck with matte coating, enjoy hazy/grainy/oily images.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/asus-debut-two-new-rog-strix-32-woled-monitors-with-new-trueblack-glossy-coating
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/gigabyte-announce-mo27q28g-with-a-27-primary-rgb-tandem-woled-panel

>>106147429
Thumb drive is common and accepted

>>106150031
>these
You become emotionally invested and the ESL comes tumbling down. Stay poor, my friend.

>>106150332
The likes of ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, AOC, etc. don't make the same monitors, Mr. Straw Man.

Next:
>>106150328
>>106150328
>>106150328

>>106150332
>Stay poor, my friend.
I'm not the poorfag who can't keep an LCD monitor for productivity and an OLED or a miniLED for HDR gaming/media.
That's been the display meta for a while; the budget variant is IPS + VA.

>>106149486
You are below a techtuber, Rashjeet
What is your point anymore?

>>106149518
This looks better than all monitors currently on the market, still

>>106149571
still the best tech availible

>>106149710
that was me, not him

>>106149723
any techtuber who post pics of qdoled with it entirely lit up with a grayish tint with magenta in direct sunlight is completely unhinged (like how the rtings pics look)
it does not even look like that in full show room lighting
it's a fabrication to stir up drama
but the ideal viewing conditions is no lights still obviously
if you used it irl once you would know this

>>106149765
>if the raised blacks turned out to be a deal breaker.
the joke here is that all woled monitors also have raised blacks or rather lowered contrast due to the matte coating
sure trueblack glossy might fix this but they still will be woleds and lose to qd
have to wait for the tandem memes and even then it will be slightly worse

>>106149768
even if you use it in full direct sun light like a retard it will still look better than any display on the market, that's the joke
but ideal is lesser light obviously

>>106149808
purple tint meme is a psyop, functionally irrelevant

>>106149888
>none of the possessors of QD OLED have disproved the problem
look at one irl one time "yeah, it's an overblown meme" - move on with your life
literally that simple
or keep letting techtubers force feed you the reality of life

>>106150124
Price just dropped for the 4k 165hz
it's not that expensive, cheaper than the qdoleds
woled is done and finished for
until LG drops true RGB oled on PC, and if they don't matte it up

>>106148431
I would try to get a ridiculous deal from the brown person and just buy it from a store if I'm not robbing him.