How much do you really need for you computer 8GB,16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB? I just upgraded my Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5875u to from 16GB ddr4 3200 to 64GB ddr4 3200. To me it feel my computer is a lot more snapper to used that before the upgrade.

>>106153869 (OP)
>more snapper
it's quad channel, isn't?

AAA video games want 32GB now so that

>>106153869 (OP)
I have 64GB and I've still run out of memory. I tend to work across different 3D and 2D graphics production apps simultaneously (Blender, Unreal Engine, Substance Painter, Affinity Designer, etc.) though which can be pretty RAM heavy. Thinking about upgrading to 128GB.

>>106153913
>>106153921
That's insane. You didn't need half that just five years ago.

>>106153869 (OP)
If you're on a laptop with a beefy iGPU, 32 GB ram is mandatory.
Otherwise 16 is good

I just upgraded to 64GB for AI cooming purposes

>>106153869 (OP)
256GB, 128GB is not enough for my 5950X and I'm waiting for zen6 to upgrade to the next biggest ryzen 9

Imagine not having at least 1TB of RAM.

640K ought to be enough for anybody.

>>106153913
Future video games will just be giant slop fest that looks like a bunch of developers used AI to throw a bunch of unoptimized props together for a level design and unbaked shaders, with crappy uninteresting voice acting and very fast plot. You'll need the same PC to make and play games at this point.

>>106156438
Just host yout own REDIS at this point

>>106153906
faggot board do not run ANY quad channel motherboards, except mine

>>106153869 (OP)
i need 2tb for ai

>>106156213
I've recently upgraded to 128 GB.

Pic related is bare minimum in 2025, enough for 7 chrome tabs, not enough for snappy Minecraft

>>106153869 (OP)
I would feel confident with 128gb but for now I'm running 32gb.

RAMlets going to be left in the dust once 128GB becomes recommended. Gotta get ahead of the times and go for 256GB.

not a whole lot actually

I have 128gb DDR4, upgrading to DDR5 is going to cost a ton

>>106153869 (OP)
upgrade your memory when you actually run out

>>106153869 (OP)
>absolute bare minimum for current year
8 GB
> recommended
32 GB
> for future-proofing
64 - 128 GB

>>106153869 (OP)
If you use Linux you can comfortably get by with 8GB. 4GB if you watch your usage.
If you use Windows you need 16GB. 32GB if you want to comfortably get by without worrying.
>>106153913
That same game can run on Linux with less ram due to Linux not being as much as a memory slut like Windows.

I have 32gb. Ram is really cheap

>>106153869 (OP)
I have 32 (16x2) and will end up adding another 32 just to fill the slots since my platform is 3 generations old at this point. Plus, Avisynth filters really suck up as much RAM as possible.

>>106153869 (OP)
you don't need more than 4(four)gb.

I'm on Win 10 and with my 50+ Brave tabs open (many of them are idle, not fully open) and my various editing software open, I typically hover around 26-34 gigs of ram being used. When exporting files, I've seen it range from 38-50 gifs of ram, depending on the project type. I feel like 64gb was a good choice for me for now, but I could see myself upgrading to 96gb of ram in the future if I see my usage at max consistently.
If you're a heavy user and do some kind of editing or modeling, I'd say 48-64gb is the minimum to be comfy.

>>106153869 (OP)
However much you think you need, you will adapt to it in a few months and start needing more.
I regularly cap out my 32gigs, and I clearly remember feeling like it was overkill when I first got it.
What extra RAM means for you, is that you just stop closing programs when you're not using them.

I have 64gb of ram, but only because I use Zbrush and Blender

>>106156571
/g/ runs them though

>>106153869 (OP)
32gb is enough
>>106161415
>win 7 ultimate
nice

>>106153869 (OP)
I have 256 gigs and regularly sit at 100-110 used. so 128 should be fine for a few years, 256 to future proof.

>>106153913
you can't use 16GB VRAM on a PC with 16GB of ram

>>106156571
my M4 Max has 8 channels you lost

>>106156571
>1066mHz
obsolete

>>106162170
Elaborate.
>>106158398
Somewhat agreed. I would put:
>8GiB
Light use.
>16GiB
Recommended bare minimum for productivity (word processor, multiple browsers/tabs, comm app (teams, slack, discord, google meet/chat, etc).
>32GiB
Bare minimum for power users (above + VMs and/or graphical or simulation works, like photophop, matlab, etc)
>64GiB
Recommended for heavy power users (VMs, docker/podman/kubernetes, developers, graphical artists, engineers, etc).
>128GiB
Specific scenarios.

>>106162317
you always have a copy of your VRAM in your RAM

>>106153921
>>106156135
Substance Painter eats RAM like a fucking bitch, a single project uses up to 12GB and you usually have multiple open at once. All the others can run on 16GB with ease

If you have to ask why, you don't need more than 16GB.

>>106162366
Can you further elaborate on that? From what I know, only objects related to what the GPU drives are stored in the VRAM, with everything else on the RAM, and those can communicate with each other, but one "don't need" the other to function. Eg: a 24GiB dGPU can work fine on a PC with 16GiB of RAM. Problem exists if what you're running, to push this card, most likely will also push RAM and CPU and end up being a bottleneck. Exceptions exists, obviously (like LLMs, that mostly use VRAM).

16GB minimum for a laptop
32GB bare minimum for a desktop
64GB sweet spot, anything more than this for niche cases

>>106153869 (OP)
Run 32x4800MTs, want 128x6000MTs, need more tabs

>>106161415
what do you even do with this retarded ass computer?

>>106153869 (OP)
I ran out of memory with Wan video genning. 32Gb isn't enough. Maybe gonna get 64Gb. Pretty sure 128Gb will be a standard before 2030.

>>106153869 (OP)
I have 128 and wish I could add more.

>>106153869 (OP)
I have 16 GB and it's enough. 32 GB would be better, though.

the more you give software developers the more they waste
>>106153913
>>106156135
>>106156552
see this is why i cant wait for the hardware to just stop progressing at all, moore's law completely dead. Game devs will have to once again learn to optimize and think outside the box when creating games instead of 3 percent more realism

>>106166574
Just wait for all the vibe code. Masses of inefficient code. AI doesn't have the context window to prevent repeating code.

>>106159123
> That same game can run on Linux with less ram due to Linux not being as much as a memory slut like Windows.
proof?
i don’t care if it is 15 hours later, i know you’re still here you no life linux loser

>>106163612
post speccy screenshots on /g/ and cry as I get outperformed by Ryzen 5 parts with cheap DDR4

>>106166599
it's ogre

does anybody have that one /g/ post about devs wasting 30 years of hardware gains?

i use 128. 32 for ram the rest as storage

>>106161415
This has better specs than my computer.

>>106153869 (OP)
32gb bcause I play rust here and there, 16gb if no vidya, 8gb daily stuff on laptop

I have 64 GB and it's nice to be able to have
>a 4k game
>multiple web browser sessions with dozens of tabs
>including tab with video player
>other programs like chat client
all playing
And have no issue whatsoever.

>>106166780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvpuT3aoypE

>>106166815
MY NAME IS ERIC lmao

>upgrades to 128GiB
>motherboard shits itself
I hate the z790

>>106166574
>moore's law completely dead
The price of ram is still dropping fast. 8G of ddr4 was >50€ in 2020, now 16G is 30€.
And it's an extremely cartelized industry. Same for mass storage.
Using more memory to make a program faster is a fundamental tradeoff in computer science.

>106166838
yep, we have confirmation, smoke him

>>106166937
how much more do you people need

I have a 8gb of RAM laptop with a 10th generation intel i3 cpu (linux btw) i just surf on the web and play doom mods, everything is so comfy.

>>106167035
You should be good for a while. I recommend upgrading to 16 GiB when you can, but honestly, if it works for you, keep going. Stay comfy, fren.

>>106166921
DDR4? still salvageable
DDR5? yeah you're fucked

32 just werks and memory is dirt cheep new so get like 64

>>106153869 (OP)
4-8GB minimum, 16GB for comfort and having too many thing open at once. 32GB+ for music producers, image gen folks, video editing, and more.

>>106166623
why two GPUs tho

Ram is so cheap you might as well go for 32gb

>>106153869 (OP)
Change your power setting options (including in bios).

>>106156135
consoles launched with 16 GB this gen, previous gen had 8 GB, due to pc os overhead and underoptimization those 16 can easily balloon to 22
they ask for 32 because if you are running 22 you aren't running dual channel memory which has quite an impact nowadays
it does show how important previous gen was until 2024 or so since vram and ram requirements didn't balloon up until then

>>106170583
but we're still playing the exact same games

>>106153869 (OP)
2gb is all you need

>>106153869 (OP)
4GB is fine still on linux if all you do is browse the web and maybe write some shit in a word processor at the same time.
8GB is bare minimum if you want to do the same on Windows.
16GB is more of a longevity thing, or if you play videogames.
32GB, 64GB, and 128GB depends on how demanding your use case is.

>>106171971
t. 2005 chad

>>106153869 (OP)
>How much do you really need for you computer 8GB,16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB? I just upgraded my Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5875u to from 16GB ddr4 3200 to 64GB ddr4 3200. To me it feel my computer is a lot more snapper to used that before the upgrade.
Normies and midwitfags don't understand how to answer this question, or even what you're really asking.
You only need as much RAM as the programs you use consume. Moreover, unless you're doing something like supercomputing, you generally don't need "MOAR DEDODATED WAM", but rather to move to a server-based architecture where you have multiple processors running a part of the application each with their own allocated ram.
>what
Basically RAM is just storage space for running programs. It's like asking how much "hard drive space" you need. How much crap are you trying to put on your computer all at the same time? That's your HDD space.
How many things are you trying to have open, all the time? That's RAM.

Where people fuck up is in thinking that if you throw "MORE RAM" at a program that it will "RUN FASTER". Fucking lol, as if you have a bigger hard drive it'll make your game load faster?
Don't get me started on memory speed, which is irrelevant in almost 100% of cases because your program is already limited by the amount of storage space it can reference as space has been growing according to Moore's Law.

You really have to be an ignoramus (a genuinely stupid person) to clap for "MORE RAM", a component that has largely never been bottlenecked by any system use.

>>106153869 (OP)
I have 128GB, but the only time I ever used more than 64 was when I was cpumaxxing local LLMs. 64GB should be enough for just about anyone.

I upgraded to 64 gb a few days ago and everything runs smooth as silk now. I used to stutter playing games and my browser would lag a lot too but now everything is fine.

>>106172487
>my computer has a virus that's killing the performance so I gave the little spybot more ram and now shit's hobbling along just swell!
The actual fucking state of "PC users" in 2025.

>>106172498
kek, I remember Herb Sutter calling it in 2005. the future is now.
http://gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm

>>106166937
>Using more memory to make a program faster is a fundamental tradeoff in computer science.
you are the blackest gorrila nigger. holy shit it doesnt even make sense hypothetically. how did you even come to this conclusion?!

>>106172596
anon, you really aren't as smart as you think you are. try having some basic humility sometimes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space%E2%80%93time_tradeoff

>>106172622
did you even read that?

>>106153869 (OP)
I have 64 GB in my laptop and it's too much. 32GB is adequate for 2025.

>>106172660
just make your argument, retard. if you even have one.

>>106153921
Here, bro
https://downloadmoreram.com/

>>106162366

>>106153869 (OP)
depends on needs, if you want to make sure go 64GB. if you need gaming to be fine get 32gb. minimum 16gb but go 32gb if possible. if you need llms go 128gb ddr5.

>>106153869 (OP)
16 technically for gaming, but just up it to 32 since RAM is relatively cheap compared to the past and you will need it in the future

>>106172342
>t. buttmad macfag with 8gb ram

>>106172718
???
this doesnt even make any sense. are you schizophrenic unironically?

>>106172889
if you can't see a connection between
>Using more memory to make a program faster is a fundamental tradeoff in computer science.
and
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space%E2%80%93time_tradeoff
then you are clearly lost.
>>>/g/sqt/ >>>/g/spg/ >>>/g/csg/

>>106156135
Five years ago everyone had a PS4 or Xbox One with 8 GB combined VRAM and RAM+ OS tip.

When I was producing music and ai I wanted 128gb. I'd be happy with 48gb now

>>106173384
how is the degradation my dude?

>>106172949
you have made an extrapolation fallacy sar. or a colloquial fallacy. maybe both.

>>106153869 (OP)

to bee honest there is not much gain, 256MB with CL2.5 @ 240p is about the same performance as 16GB CL38 @ 720p feel free to ask

>>106173962
Elaborate on how you've come to this conclusion. I don't doubt you, I just wish to know more.

>>106172857
cpu loads everything into the ram and then sends data (textures, shaders, etc) to your gpu in real time. so you always have all textures, shaders etc in your ram

>>106173962
Pretending like first word latency is the only relevant metric with RAM is absurd poverty faggot shitskin cope
>>106173973
Retard

48 gb is very comfy for me
lots of ram but not too much

>>106174095
this is literally debunked by opening task manager
most games use more vram than ram
the fact that the textures go into ram before going to vram doesn't mean it stays there, why would it?

>>106153869 (OP)
Really depends on what you want to do with your computer, but 8 is bare minimum for most of the basic tasks nowadays. But then, if you want just a note-taking and spreadsheet machine, you can probably go as low as 512kb.

>>106174193
>doesn't mean it stays there, why would it?
because you have an interactive 3D scene the cpu tells your gpu what to render, you need all that data in your ram to calculate camera position, collisions, hitboxes, enemy AI, user input, etc before you send it to the gpu to render

>most games use more vram than ram
because textures are compressed and the gpu decompresses them on the fly, executing shaders need additional memory etc.

>>106172697
I have 64GB in my work laptop and it's barely enough to run the shitty niche excel plug ins I need

>>106175866
>camera position, collisions, hitboxes, enemy ai, user input
...none of these things need the cpu to have texture data available, what the fuck is your point
also if it worked like you are implying, why does shared video memory exist? why does the game have to store stuff in ram when you run out of vram, if that stuff is already in ram? mmmhhh it really makes you wonder
retard

>>106173521
what do you mean?

>>106153869 (OP)
I got 32GB DDR3 and I never see more than half in use.

>>106174174
no such thing as too much RAM.

I have 2x48GB DDR5-5600 cause I wanted to try out AI

normies will never need more than 64gb in their lifetime
>64gb
we must account for front end bloat

8GB is too low now, 16GB for bare min use and its dirt cheap now.

>8GB linux
>16GB windows, gayman on older games/emulators, ai image
>32GB gayman on newer games, ai video
>64GB music prod and maybe graphics
>96GB for high end usage
>128GB - 256GB future proof
>512GB and beyond to wave your dick in peoples faces

Let me guess, you need less?
>>106156231
i want my next build to have 256gb but it seems like no cpus support it so i'm stuck with only 192gb

>>106153869 (OP)
I use 32GB with Windows 11 and I can run a few VMs at the same time. For most people 16GB is more than enough, for video games you may want to go with 32.

>>106153869 (OP)
>How much do you really need for you computer
It depends on what you're doing. Literally. I remember dealing with some very large matrices a few years ago, and it was very very nice to have 4TB to work with. Even now, that's a lot of memory, but it was a lot of data I was munging around. Don't need nearly so much at the moment!

>>106153869 (OP)
all of it

>>106173731
not that anon but my gaydar is identifying you as a bot

>>106182353
>i want my next build to have 256gb
I'm on a ryzen 9 5950x with 128GB of ram but I hit the ram limit all the time if I use all my cores, from a quick napkin math I should be fine with around ~200GB of ram if I want
>4GB per core
taht's 128GB with lto and other flags I can jump to 6GB per core but usually not for long, I estimate the peak to be at around ~180GB
>~25GB OS + toolings + browser
on top of the previous 180GB
I didn't want to upgrade to zen 5 because of shitty ram support with 4 sticks, I really hope zen 6 fix this as I don't want to spend a few grand on a threadripper setup taht will be released atleast a year after zen6 release for double the price.
I can also deal with intel lower IPC performance if I can get stable CUDIMM memory with 4 sticks as the compilations I do are very memory intensive more than anything and intel 14th gen is very powerful for non-gaming workloads (ie more determinist workload that scale well and keep the front and back end fed more efficiently unlike with games taht starve them)
>but it seems like no cpus support it so i'm stuck with only 192gb
zen 5 and 14th gen support 256GB just fine especially intel, I'm sure the limit for 15th and zen 6 will be 256GB

my next computer will mostly be a x970e motherboard with a ryzen 9 10950x with 256GB of ram, that's as close to HEDT as I can get without spending over 3k on a threadripper setup one year after zen 6 release...