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Previous thread: >>106149120

>>106166489
Why did you install Arch if you don't know how to handle such a system? not trying to be condescending, genuinely asking.
>should I use Mint?
Sure, I personally use Cinnamon which is pretty comfy. You can also use xfce if you want something "lighter". If you're still interested in trying out Arch and are too retarded to follow the Arch wiki, check out "Arch comfy guide" by Denshi on YT. Or just install EndeavourOS, it has a GUI installer. Artix also has it, if you want something without systemd(icks).

>>106166751 (OP)
Holy sovl Screenshot batmab

whatever happened to centos? feels like it used to be as big as arch like 10 years ago but now i never hear about it

>>106167514
babe you were still in your diapers 10 years ago

>>106167538
what?

Is it possible to reorder gamepads?

>>106166489
Just use an Arch-based distro ffs, it'll have the defaults you wanted anyway.

I just started using Linux for the first time and it feels weirdly inconsistent, if that makes sense. Like sometimes on startup certain programs and functions are just operating like intended and other times they're not. The most notable instance was when I booted up and it randomly didn't detect my ethernet cable for some reason and kept prompting me to connect to a wifi network. There are other small issues like that that makes me feel like the whole thing's held together with scotch tape. I'm using Mint btw

>>106166751 (OP)
>be me
>using gnome
>qt apps look ugly
>install kvantum apps so i can make them look different
>they look different
>i don't like it
>uninstall kvantum
>they still look different

i want my ugly qt apps back. how can i achieve that :(

>be me
>using gnome
>qt apps look ugly
>install kvantum apps so i can make them look different
>they look different
>i don't like it
>uninstall kvantum
>they still look different

i want my ugly qt apps back. i was too mean to them :(

I use linux out of principle but I'm not really that great with computers
I just got a 3D printer, a Mars 4 Ultra and apparently it comes with chitubox
Can I get that running native on linux? Would it be easy to get it running with Wine and connect to my 3D printer using wifi?

>>106166751 (OP)
Linux 6.16 and mesa 25.2 about to drop to Arch stable

Troon bros, we won

do i want gnome/wayland or xfce/x11 if i’m setting up a computer with games in mind?
linux isn’t new to me its desktop environment and video games i’m unfamiliar with. this computer isn’t just for me it’s a bit of a special case (under tv gaming/media computer will mostly run fullscreen programs but will have multiple users so i need pulling up a browser to be easy).
basically will wayland make gaming better under gnome outright or will a stripped down xfce with picom still beat it performance-wise.
assume a “bare minimum install” for both with as few extra processes running as possible. i hand select packages either way no groups.

>>106170671
She's based I love her

>>106170671
linux is and always will be ours

>>106170673
IMO stick to X11 unless you need HDR, stuff like Xephyr, xdotool or mouse injectors don't work on wayland

>>106170673
Why do you have to decide beforehand? To my knowledge most distros except fedora support both x11 and wayland sessions on gnome specifically, all you gotta do is select it when you login, at the point which you introduce your password.
This is of course so you can test which one works for you.

>>106170981
>Xephyr
Don't need. Run another XWayland instance (yes, you can have multiple of them and it can even display in its own little window like Xephyr can) or run a nested compositor like Cage for native Wayland client
>Xdotool
Use Ydotool or compositor specific scripts (KDE has a lot scripts for it and compositors like Sway have their own IPC which can be used for a lot of things)

>>106170671
profile pic -> real life meme in one step
amazing

>>106170671
Why are troons always like this?

>>106168912
Use qt5ct and qt6ct

>>106171610
>>106168912
Also you will probably have to logout and back in if you've made changes to any of the environment variables it uses.

>>106166751 (OP)
I have an ubuntu 24.04 system that will suddenly stop large (10GB range) file transfers from a USB connected drive about 60% of the way through. I have tried to increase the dirty bits limit (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/743950/slow-file-transfer-to-usb-stick) but I still have the same problem. Even more strangely, this also happens when I try to transfer the same large files to the computer from a NAS on the same network using ethernet.
Short of reinstalling ubuntu and praying it works this time, is there anything else I can try?

>>106167514
Red Hat turned it into a beta test for RHEL with CentOS stream so now the people that were using it for being a RHEL clone don't use it anymore.
It's still useful for hyperscalers though (i.e not the people that care about stale RHEL).

>>106170311
They took their time about it

>>106168164
No, I meant you don't need to install impersenation curl.
yt-dlp binary from the github include it by default, if you installed it with pip then you need to use this
pip install "yt-dlp[default,curl-cffi]"
>>106170671
Why everyone lusting after this selfcutting schizo?
>>106170673
KDE+kwin/wayland
>>106171713
Maybe the drive you're transferring to is dying?
>>106165413
What about using powerline adapter?

>>106170673
1. Buy a good HDR screen
2. Use KDE or Hyprland

>>106172301
You only get the latest and greatest when you build it yourself. Linus released 6.16 almost two weeks ago.

>>106172339
I've been using CachyOS's kernels for a while now but I build them myself, sometimes updating them before they get around to it. I'm still running the -rc7 because I never bothered to update to the final version yet.

>>106172355
Whoa you really needed 6.16. It's been out for almost two weeks now tho

>>106172419
CachyOs got it faster than Arch

>>106172419
I update to all of the kernels to test them out

>>106172430
is that right?
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-mainline
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-cachyos

>>106172476
yes

>>106172476
Do you understand what that number on the end means? Those are revbumps by the package maintainer.

Can someone help me solve this paradox?
When I'm playing on my gaming PC I get 30 FPS, but when I'm using it with sunshine/moonline I get 60 FPS

>>106172329
It's a brand new SSD. Apparently what's happening is that the OS loads some gigabytes into memory before writing it all to the drive in 1 burst, so it looks like it's hanging. This is the same dirty bytes bullshit I was trying to adjust. How in the fuck did this persist for decades with no QOL fix?

>>106172752
Mount your drive with the sync flag

>>106172752
What are you using to copy the files?
Try xcp or rsync.

>install linoox
>option to pick a browser
>firefox description says that it's great for privacy

>>106172818
Regular drag and drop in the file browser does the same burst shit as rsync so it seems like a problem with a driver.

>>106172828
I highly doubt you're using rsync correctly then.
Try xcp.

>>106172785
>>106172752
Also try running things like iostat, iotop, and perf top it may help you figure out if it is doing any I/O and what if anything is hanging.

>>106172837
This is autistic and retarded. Why the fuck do I have to use some alternative copy method for a basic OS function?

>>106172845
I know for a fact it's loading things into memory then writing the part it loaded once it reaches a point determined by the dirty bytes ratio setting.

>>106172851
But do you know if it is actually doing any I/O when it hangs and at what rate? What tools are you using to diagnose this issue?

I'm planning to install XFCE Mint, currently using Windows 10 on my Dell Inspiron 3593 core i5. Will I regret it?

>>106172848
because of bunch of reasons mainly you're using software that was designed when the maximum file size was 64 KB.
It manged to scale well so far, but it won't do well with really large files.
xcp is the answer instead of using rsync.
>parallel threads
>data integrity check
>copying extended attributes
>better scalability
Honestly, if you're having problem with cp, why not test xcp?

>>106172865
You don't need any new shit with that laptop so no. Everything will just work.

>>106172845
>>106172859
>>106172851
Also another thing to try is checking what I/O scheduler is used:
$ grep -r . /sys/block/*/queue/scheduler
/sys/block/loop0/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber adios bfq
/sys/block/nvme0n1/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber adios bfq
/sys/block/nvme1n1/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber adios bfq
/sys/block/nvme2n1/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber adios bfq
/sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler:none mq-deadline kyber adios [bfq]
/sys/block/sdb/queue/scheduler:none mq-deadline kyber adios [bfq]
/sys/block/sdc/queue/scheduler:none mq-deadline kyber adios [bfq]


If it's set to [none] then try using Kyber. It has helped me with I/O issues on shit drives in the past.

>>106172821
I mean, it is if you enable a couple of options in the settings. It's the best browser out there when it comes to anti-fingerprinting and currently anything Chromium-based has dropped uBlock Origin and other ad/tracking blockers.

>>106172865
Xfce isn't really a good DE unless you really, really need to save RAM. Your laptop has 8GB, which should be more than enough for any DE as even the heaviest ones can run on 2GB RAM devices (after tweaks) or 4GB devices out of the box.
I'd suggest you go for KDE Plasma, or at least GNOME as these two are the most developed.
But if you really want to use Mint, then just pick Cinnamon. It's a bit worse for battery life than other DEs apparently (just install tlp), but it's far less janky compared to Xfce.

>>106172785
I just tried this. It's now sending stuff constantly, but the transfer rate is below 0.5 MB/s through USB3. lol, lmao even.

>>106172928
That's definitely some sort of drive or interface issue then. Synchronous I/O should be slower but not that slow.

>>106172938
Looks like it. I just tried copying the same file to the drive my OS is installed to and no buffering happened. So is this a hardware or software interface issue?

>>106172821
And Chrome is better? Get over yourself.

>>106172965
Hardware most likely, I highly doubt Linux is the issue although you could try using different kernel versions to compare e.g the LTS kernel or the latest stable kernel if you're running an LTS kernel right now.

>>106172972
You are the first one to mention Chrome, keep your projections to yourself.

>>106172974
>>106172965
Try different USB ports too, although I assume you have already tried that.

>>106172989
Yeah I did. Same thing happens over FTP if I download a file from another computer to a directory on that drive over ethernet with filezilla.

>>106172821
There are lots of browsers for Linux. I guess the only major browser which isn't on Linux is Safari.

>>106173016
>I guess the only major browser which isn't on Linux is Safari.
It's not on Windows either but the web engine that powers Safari does run on Linux in the form of WebkitGTK which is what GNOME Web (Epiphany) uses.

>>106172928
Did you check the drives? maybe you bought counterfeit?

>>106173016
>There are lots of browsers for Linux
Doesn't make much of a difference when most use the same 2 engines.

>>106173030
I bought it at best buy lol.

>>106166751 (OP)
Is this running on FreeBSD 4.3?

>>106173046
That's the case on other OSes too. Also those two engines are both open source.

>>106166751 (OP)
anyone have a copy of the hyprperks configuration?

>>106173048
>best buy lol.
that's a red flag on it's own

>>106166751 (OP)
It's crazy how far KDE has come. 20 years ago, I thought it was dogshit, but after trying it this year for the first time since then, I'm liking it more than xfce.

>>106173046
That's the state of the web, anon. It's not the fault of Linux.

You have Webkit (Safari) browsers too, for example GNOME Web and a few others. But you lose extension support because all of them target Blink (Chrome) and Gecko (Firefox). You also lose a lot of features and website access, because almost nobody tests if their website works on Webkit. Chrome and Firefox are the 2 primary targets for 99%+ of developers.

You also have the up and coming hipster browsers/engines like Ladybird, Flow and Servo. But I'm pretty sure none of these are ready for general use nor do they support uBlock Origin.

>>106173103
Yeah, I feel like it finally became usable around version 5.20 or so. At that point it stopped crashing constantly for no reason. Now it's my favorite DE by far. I also abandoned Xfce for it.

>>106173097
I don't think anyone's gay enough to get that

>>106173097
>monthly subscription for a config file
nigga I ain't even paid for my entire OS, ya think I'm gonna pay for a bullshit config file?

>>106173097
No, everyone is using Jakoolit, omarchy or some other hyprland setup, for free

>>106173123
>>You have Webkit (Safari) browsers too, for example GNOME Web and a few others. But you lose extension support because all of them target Blink (Chrome) and Gecko (Firefox).
GNOME Web actually does have experimental Web Extension support now. It is very experimental though

So I installed mint on an old laptop, it's working great, I'm impressed with the speed.
I've found conflicting information on how I'm supposed to install and upload software. What is the way to do it? For example for qbittorrent.

I tried installing it with : sudo apt install qbi -y
it installed an ancient version 4.6.3 and I have trouble updating.

I noticed there is a software manager with the correct version, should I install my software through it?

>>106173209
go to the developers website/github/whatever and follow their download instructions for your particular distro (if there is any)
any other method is wrong and gay

>>106173209
>Mint
There's two parallel packaging systems in place: the actual system packages from Ubuntu's repository and Flatpaks from Flathub. The one in Ubuntu's repositories is the ancient one and Flatpak is the newer one.
>sudo apt install
APT deals with system packages.

>>106172925
gay
I want speed

>>106173266
>APT deals with system packages.
it still installed something, do I need to undo it?

>>106173285
If you want a newer version then install through Flathub. System packages on Ubuntu (so Mint) are old. Uninstall it and get another one through flathub. Not sure how important are even updates for qbit torrent, I use ancient one on Windows but still.

>>106167514
Do you live under a rock?

>>106173306
They probably didn't get the memo that everyone is using Rocky Linux now.

>>106173103
>It's crazy how far KDE has come

it will replace windows and mac

its really quite a good FOSS system

>>106172972
>whataboutism
Massive cope
Thankfully theres a bunch of firefox forks one can use for better privacy oob

>>106173301
>Not sure how important are even updates for qbit torrent
It's not really about having it up to date, it's about not starting to cut corner on the first software I install. Also should I just ignore the windows store looking software manager built in?

>>106168770
sounds like you're missing some device drivers or something

>>106173317
Everyone uses debian or ubuntu for servers, like they've always done.

>>106173161
Its literally just supposed to be a way to give back to the people who financially support the dev. Its not about paywalling a fucking config.

>>106173209
>>106173332
You're generally supposed to do whichever of the following is applicable first:
1. If there's a flatpak/flathub version of the app in your app store (or on https://flathub.org/, if your GUI doesn't integrate it), install that version.
2. If the developer's website (or developer's github/gitlab) provides a universal package format (like appimage, or a .sh/.desktop installer/script) download and use that version. (You'll probably also want "Gear Lever" to manage appimages)
3. If the developer's website provides a non-universal package format (like .deb, .rpm), follow the instructions for your distro. (Mint is always going to be Ubuntu LTS, in your case Ubuntu 24 LTS).
4. If your distribution packages the app, install it through your app store (this is what you did, just using a CLI instead of GUI). However, in this case you're at the mercy of your distribution's repository maintainer and their dependency resolution. Since you're on Mint, almost all software installed this way will be up to 2 years out of date. You're not getting software directly from the official dev/distributor, so this install method should be avoided for anything that's not system-level.

>>106173285
Generally if you uninstall a package, all the dependencies will be uninstalled. If not, you can do "sudo apt autopurge" after you uninstall it.

installed arch linux, what do you guys recommend for it.

i'm new to this.

>when i go to grub, my keyboard doesn't seem to work, it automatically selectects the first option and i boot to arch linux, how do i fix this?
>when i see japanese characters i get weird symbols, how do i fix this?
>how do i block ads? i used to use ad blocker but it doesn't seem to work in firefox.

what's the best way to do backups without too many external tools? i tend to delete the old then zip all i got and put it in the backup.
does it sound ineffcient?

>>106173523
Anon you should just watch an Arch install guide on Youtube instead of just rawdogging it as a newbie

>>106173523
>new to this
>installs Arch
Are you here to tinker/fuck around, or have a functional OS?

>>106173523
>>how do i block ads? i used to use ad blocker but it doesn't seem to work in firefox.
Why are you not using uBlock Origin?

>>106173523
Follow arch install guide on youtube. Then follow post install guide on youtube. Once you install it properly (yes, archinstall script is fine), you will want to do post install stuff, like firewall, yay/paru, maybe update mirrors etc. Arch wiki is great, but honestly just copy what youtubers are doing. I also suggest btrfs for snapshots.

also>>106173523


I normally press the middle button on the scroll wheel to scroll the page, i can't do it anymore on linux, how can i fix it?

>>106173538
i did follow a guide on youtube, i installed it but grub just doesn't work, i don't know why

>>106173541
i dual boot windows, i can't get back to windows as grub is messed up, i can probably change my boot priority order and just boot to windows directly but i wanna fix grub

>>106173550
i did, they didn't recommend anything else
i followed this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWB3F-ffcI

>>106173578
Grub is one of the easiest things to install/setup though? Just do a "grub-install" command followed by a "grub-mkconfig" command and Grub should just werk.

>>106173209
It's up to you how you want to install it. You could run `sudo apt install qbittorrent` to get the version from Ubuntu's universe repo. The reason the version isn't the latest is because non-rolling-release distros like Ubuntu/Mint/Debian only update their packages with security updates, not feature updates, during the lifetime of the distro release. So if you had Ubuntu 24.04 LTS then qBitTorrent will remain the same version throughout the lifetime of 24.04 LTS, except for the fact that security fixes will be backported.

qBitTorrent is in Ubuntu's "universe" repo rather than the "main" repo. Bear in mind that universe packages only get "best-effort" security fixes by default, although you can get better security coverage with Ubuntu Pro (free on 5 computers). I don't know if Pro is actually compatible with Mint, but it might be. See:
>The best-effort fixes for ‘Universe’ include all fixes provided by the Ubuntu community and Debian.
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq/34042
>With the launch of Ubuntu Pro, all of the packages in Ubuntu Universe get the same security maintenance commitment from Canonical as packages in Ubuntu Main.
https://ubuntu.com/security/esm

Alternatively you can install qBitTorrent from Flathub, which seems to be an official release from the qBitTorrent developers, so it should give you the latest version. Apparently Flatpak support is built into Mint so you can just run `flatpak install flathub org.qbittorrent.qBittorrent`. Have a look at the Flatpak page at the following link on Flathub, and notice the tick below the package name, showing that the Flatpak comes from the qBitTorrent developers themselves: https://flathub.org/apps/org.qbittorrent.qBittorrent

>>106173523
>>when i see japanese characters i get weird symbols, how do i fix this?
Install noto-fonts-cjk

Something is bugging me on Plasma. When I hit Meta+D, it minimizes all windows. But when I click on a taskbar window/open a new window, all of them unminimize again. Is there any way to replicate the Windows behavior? Since sometimes I just want to clear my screen and open ONE application.

>>106173633
>only update their packages with security updates
>security fixes will be backported
This doesn't apply to most software these distros package. Most of the time they don't cherry pick bugfix or security fix commits; because a lot of software just doesn't make it easy nor does it document these fixes and just bundles them with feature updates.
For the most part, the versions of software in the repos of LTS distributions are just complete version freezes without any changes at all. They are just recompiled against dependencies whose non-breaking security/performance updates are cherry-picked into an update. So, in most cases, and especially for GUI software, no security fixes ever arrive (unless they're indirect, as in a fix in a dependency).
There are some exceptions like web browsers, but these often have separate LTS versions of their package.

>>106173702
1. Right click on your "Peek at desktop" widget
2. Click "Show alternatives"
3. Click "Minimize all Windows"
4. Right click on your widget again
5. Click "Configure"
6. Activate Widget as if clicked: Ctrl+D
7. It will ask you to replace an existing shortcut, click "Yes"
I'm not sure why the "Minimize All Windows" shortcut doesn't exist in Keyboard Shortcuts, but at least you can use this method to set it up.

Any point in installing gentoo if I don't want to compile anything myself? I like number of packages portage has and it has a cool logo. Also helps that dotfiles for Hyprland that I use work on it.

>>106173960
They have binary packages for a lot of stuff now but you're still probably going to end up compiling some stuff. I would say go for it if you're curious about Gentoo but otherwise don't bother.

>>106172865

why would You do it? no worries though until official end of support win10 ms will remember Your mobo serial

i have mint never xfce bought win10 for this machine wish exiftool was but not yet

LibreOfficefags, how the hell do I raise the header? The "height" setting only lowers that bottom right angle shape; I want to raise the top one because the header text is hanging WAY too low.

>>106174460
You need to enable the vertical ruler in View. The vertical ruler works on the Tabbed UI, but you can't enable it through the Tabbed UI which is moronic.

I've been looking for this for few weeks now.
How can I stream audio over local network between two linux machines?
>ask chatgpt
I tried most of the things and all of them have 2-3 seconds latency
While running sunshine/moonlight has zero latency.

>>106174692
Use PipeWire's PulseAudio server. Edit the pipewire-pulse.conf and a tcp or udp socket for it to listen on then on the machine you want to send on:
env PULSE_SERVER=tcp:192.168.X.X:XXXX application-to-run

>>106166751 (OP)
not sure where to ask this so i'll try here...
i use arch, and i have a hard drive for archiving stuff. recently i've been interested in expanding my archive storage, and wanted to try RAID just to be safe (i've had this same drive for 5 years and it hasn't failed yet. keyword "yet").
i was told to try ZFS since it's very convenient and powerful when it comes to RAID setups, but it seems like ZFS on a bleeding arch system is not a great idea.
since i don't want to make a home server, what other reliable options do i have?

>>106174739
Slow down.
Both of my machine are running pipewire, and I want it to be toggle-able thing, that send all audio, not just certain applications.
Got any guide to follow? because I didn't understand how setting an environment variable would make this work

>>106170671
>Try to look like a cute girl
>end up looking like Geddy Lee
Maybe he could play YYZ

>>106174907
>I want it to be toggle-able thing
See the bit in the documentation for this very topic about loading a sink that forwards the audio:
>You can also load a sink that will forward all audio to this remote server with:
pactl load-module module-tunnel-sink server=tcp:[:]
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/Config-PulseAudio#network-support

>>106174979
Thanks man but I'm not very savvy to understand those terms
What's the difference between native and simple TCP protocol?
And I don't want to ruin my audio server
so does any of these persist after a reboot?
>pactl load-module module-native-protocol-tcp [port=] [listen=]
Or would this
pactl load-module module-tunnel-sink server=tcp:[:]
work better if I just want to forward audio to specific machine?

>>106175055
native means it's using a UNIX domain socket
TCP is a network transport (i.e you can send the audio to your other machine like you want)

>>106175152
Ok, I tried what's in that page.
I get new audio sinks but I don't get any audio
I used
pactl load-module module-native-protocol-tcp port=4656 listen=0.0.0.0 auth-anonymous=true
On the server
and this
pactl load-module module-tunnel-sink server=tcp::4656
On the receiver
The audio is still coming from the server

>>106173960
Gentoo can use openrc over systemd if you prefer that.

>>106174818
ZFS will be easier to use on arch if you switch to linux-lts kernel

>>106175314
any reason why i wouldn't want to use the LTS kernel? i game from time to time, although i think i'd only be missing out on "improvements" to DLSS/FSR which i do not use anyway.

>>106174692
never mind I figured it out.
I deserve the misfortune I received for following mindless AI as valid advice.
audio_lan()
{
SENDER_HOST=$(grep -P '^host ' ~/.ssh/config | cut -d' ' -f2)
RECEV_IP=$(ip -o -4 addr show | awk '{print $4}' | cut -d'/' -f1 | grep -v '127.0.0.1')
SENDER_COMMAND="roc-send -i pulse://default -s rtp+rs8m://$RECEV_IP:10001 -r rs8m://$RECEV_IP:10002 -c rtcp://$RECEV_IP:10003"
RECEIVER_COMMAND="roc-recv -s rtp+rs8m://0.0.0.0:10001 -r rs8m://0.0.0.0:10002 -c rtcp://0.0.0.0:10003"
$RECEIVER_COMMAND &
RECEIVER_PID=$!
ssh "$SENDER_HOST" 'notify-send -i audio-card "Audio Stream" "Streaming started"'
ssh "$SENDER_HOST" "$SENDER_COMMAND" &
SSH_PID=$!
trap 'echo "Stopping..."; kill $RECEIVER_PID; kill $SSH_PID 2>/dev/null; wait; echo "Done."' INT TERM EXIT
echo "Audio streaming started. Press Ctrl+C to stop."
wait $RECEIVER_PID
}
you need roc-toolkit and sox packages to make it work.
I tested the default settings is damn good even on wifi4

>>106175493
you miss out on bleeding edge features

>>106174692
Pipewire has its own rtp module for it which is supposed to perform better than using the pulse one
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/Guide-Network-RTP#point-to-point-rtp
Though i couldnt get this working last time i tried

I hate Plasma's Scripting API. I am not proud of this mess at all:
https://pastebin.com/raw/cg8LwbHm

It implements an alt-tab switcher with Bemenu and warps the mouse cursor to the centre of the window. This is by far the biggest hack I have written in my life.

>>106176199
Such as?

>>106176339
Also, ydotool works really badly for mouse automation. Sometimes the cursor stays at 0,0 and never moves to where I want it to. Lack of absolute positioning in Wayland was a mistake.

>>106176235
Yeah I followed this and didn't work.
I'm not knowing what's wrong with it so I'm sticking to this >>106176045

>>106169144
if it's a networked device, then there's a good chance it's software will work in wine. wine doesn't handle drivers. if a device requires a bespoke driver to work, wine won't help you. but for devices that don't need one, such as serial or networked devices, they should work.
i don't know much about 3d printers, so i have no specific information for you, but i'm sure you can find people asking the same question

>>106169144
>>106176433
oh and to be clear, from a software's perspective there's no difference between wifi and wired ethernet, or even virtual interfaces like vpn's, bonded or bridged connections. the device being wifi-only doesn't mean anything special for this purpose. wine handles networking just fine, and that includes any kind of network

>>106172703
that doesn't make sense. describe how you're testing/verifying this information

>>106176484
gamescope.

>>106167514
nobody talks about it because it's dead. it used to be just RHEL sources built and provided without support for free. i believe rocky linux is the new centos

>>106173103
KDE in 2004 is what made me try linux, even then it had many features windows didn't

>>106166751 (OP)
how do i solve the asian characters showing up as squares in Discord and in Steam games

>>106177298
You should just need to download noto-fonts-cjk and not worry about asian characters not showing up properly again.

>>106177325
>noto-fonts-cjk
couldn't find that package
im on linux mint debian edish btw
no package comes up when searching for noto-font at all

>>106177373
Just download them manually and place them into your system's .fonts directory
https://github.com/notofonts/noto-cjk/releases

I think variable fonts should work

>>106177373
It's called fonts-noto-cjk in Debian

>>106171610
>>106171618
thx! this worked

>>106177720
>>106178123
Thank you anons, your help is much appreciated

>>106174977
>end up looking like Geddy Lee
KEK

Arch install is easy, but there aren't enough videos online for post-install stuff. Unless those 2 year old ones are still viable.

>>106166751 (OP)
I need help installing Parabola Linux. Last time I tried to install it I got some errors related to Systemd (I was trying to install Openrc, which is an option). Despite following their installation guide, I just couldn't get it to work. I'm comfortable installing Arch/Artix manually, and have done so many times, but Parabola is filtering me. Is there a good guide out there to help me out?
>>106173534
>what's the best way to do backups without too many external tools?
sudo tar -czvf /backup/backup-full-$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz --exclude={/tmp/*,/var/tmp/*,/dev/*,/proc/*} /
>>106180809
Because everyone's system is different. Personally I install some important package I use (tinyxxd, micro, fzf, etc), my favorite desktop environment and yay.

>>106180809
there's this thing people call wiki that contains massive amounts of knowledge for those who dare to read for 5 minutes instead of searching and watching videos for 30

W10 refugee, it's been a couple of months. Is there a retard-proof guide to configure BTRFS snapshots on Fedora? It's weird they use this filesystem but don't configure that feature making it worth using in the first place.

>>106181093
They use it for compression and integrity + superior shrink support vs ext4. Snapshots create ENOSPC and they don't want to deal with that shit.

>>106181093
>It's weird they use this filesystem but don't configure that feature making it worth using in the first place.
snapshots are just a bonus, its everything else that is valuable

>>106181093
Btrfs Assistant
https://gitlab.com/btrfs-assistant/btrfs-assistant

>>106180809
You don't need a video for post install stuff, you are supposed to figure it out as you go.

>>106181007
Name one thing wiki can explain in 5 mins that a video can't.

>>106182203
well, any video made by indians isn't a valid one.

>>106182203
nvidia troubleshooting

>>106181144
>Snapshots create ENOSPC and they don't want to deal with that shit.
That only happens if you're a retard that mismanages your storage and it's entirely on you to deal with it. The problem with snapshots is that the data effectively takes up twice as much space if you modify files significantly (so BTRFS makes a copy) in the future. You have to factor that into your storage budget. If you can't afford the extra space utilisation then you shouldn't use snapshots.

Anons I know this probably gets asked a fuckton but I want to convert to linux. I game, I play emulators, I do general computer stuff, also use PC to watch TV/Movies on seperate monitor. Not a programmer or anything like that. What distro would best suit my needs? Something stable, fewest headaches, simple performance. I see all these variants.... CachyOS, Garuda, Pika, Bazzite idkwtf direction to go. Full AMD system.

>>106183118
Very few people will recommend Ubuntu because the people making it have fallen out of favor with the Linux community, but that's what I run and so far it's been extremely smooth. Web browsing, video streaming, movie watching and the vast majority of my Steam library works flawlessly. The one game I haven't been able to run properly probably CAN be fixed by someone who knows about these things, but overall I still consider it a very good track record. Full AMD build as well, Ubuntu just automatically fetched the necessary drivers and all.
I didn't mention the emulation part because I don't use those so I have no idea how hard it is to get them working.

>>106182784
It's usually the internal fragmentation / lack of balance that gets you into trouble not outright running out of space. It's possible to be out of space on btrfs with substantial free space reported.

>>106183185
I was curious about Ubuntu as well, or rather any main distro and not all the other forks. PikaOS does look really great, the live ISO feels nice. So does Bazzites. I can't help but wonder, will the PikaOS project be long term or get abandoned?

>>106183118
>I see all these variants.... CachyOS, Garuda, Pika, Bazzite idkwtf direction to go
i'll just link to the previous thread since i'll end up writing something similar otherwise >>106157560
once you've selected a major distro you can pick a derivative if you really want preinstalled software. I'm a vanilla guy though
As usual, i'd suggest to stay away from arch unless you know what you'll be getting into

Debian Trixie is releasing just when input-leap is fine tuning its Wayland support. Truly proverbial

>>106183534
I suppose that's where I get lost at times. They all claim to do "X" the best. But then I get the impression that they can all do basically the same thing? Maybe I'm a bit too much of a noob and should go for something with software + drivers already? uhg

>>106183878
Kinda? But not really. I mean if by "the same thing" you mean "I play video game on distro A and distro B" then yes they do the same thing.
But using, say for example, CachyOS is vastly different from using Arch. Using Fedora is massively different from both, Bazzite is nothing like any of the previously mentioned ones...

They are quite a different experience to use.

>>106166751 (OP)
Does anybody know how can I make gentoo not update a specific package (in my case gentoo-sources) every time I update the world set? I have to apply a few patches every time it updates and it'd be nice if I only updated it once a month instead of once a week when I update all the other packages, all of the patches take around 1-2 hours.
Couldn't find anything online

>>106184279
>how can I make gentoo not update a specific package (in my case gentoo-sources) every time I update the world set?

you retards should really learn how to use ai slop

You can prevent Gentoo from updating a specific package using several methods:
1. Package Masking (Recommended)

Edit /etc/portage/package.mask and add:


1
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources



This prevents any version updates of gentoo-sources.
2. Package Pinning (Specific Version)

Edit /etc/portage/package.mask and specify the exact version you want:


1
>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.2.12



This allows versions up to 6.2.12 but blocks newer ones.
3. Using package.accept_keywords for Stability

If you want to stick with a specific version, you can also use:


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=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.1.62 **



in /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords to accept a specific version.
4. World File Management

Remove the package from the world file:
bash


1
emerge --deselect gentoo-sources



Then add it to /etc/portage/package.world if you want to keep track of it manually.
5. Package Sets (Advanced)

Create a custom set in /etc/portage/sets/ that excludes gentoo-sources from world updates.
Verification

Check what would be updated:
bash


1
emerge -puD world



The masked package should not appear in the update list.
Unmasking Later

To allow updates again, simply remove the entry from package.mask.

Note: Be careful with kernel updates as they're important for security. Consider setting up a reminder to manually update periodically.

>>106184338
I've mentioned in the post that I want to update it manually, adding it to package.mask would forbid me from updating it at all

>>106184372
you have multiple options.

>>106183237
You should do periodic rebalances. Definitely install the maintenance scripts if Fedora doesn't have something similar already.
https://github.com/kdave/btrfsmaintenance

>>106184279
Literally just use the --exclude option. It's what it's there for.

>>106184392
>Using package.accept_keywords for Stability
Pins it to a specific version without letting me update it
>Remove the package from the world file:
Removing something out of the world set is the de facto method of removing packages, I know that there are ways to save it from emerge --depclean but I'm not risking this, especially with the kernel. I'm pretty sure that updating it alone adds it back to the world set too
>>106184437
That's it, thanks.

>>106184461
literally 3 seconds in AI
emerge --update --exclude-file=/path/to/exclude-file world

>>106184479
You just demonstrated perfectly why you should RTFM instead:
emerge: error: unrecognized arguments: --exclude-file=foo.txt

>>106182784
>The problem with snapshots is that the data effectively takes up twice as much space if you modify files significantly (so BTRFS makes a copy) in the future.
most people don't modify a significant number of files that often. i have hourly snapshots for a day and daily snapshots for a week configured on my NAS and they don't take up much space, as all it does effectively is hold back deleted files for a week. like if a 4G web-dl is automatically replaced with a 30G remux, that 4G will remain on disc for a week then get removed, but anything that doesn't change for a week doesn't take up any extra space in the snapshots. so it's less about how much stuff you have, but how much stuff you delete or modify over time.
also even if you do have a situation where you modify/delete tons of data regularly, i'd still recommend at least a few hourly snapshots, as it's a huge benefit to be able to just undo any fuck up that might happen. i don't pull things out of snapshots often, but any time i do i'm very thankful they're there

>>106184502
no, you just demonstrated perfectly that YOU don't RTFM because you asked the question to begin with.
that prompt should have been enough to get you started in the right direction, instead you came to a tranime posting general to shit it up without doing a hint of research on your own.
this place is worse than stack overflow 5 years ago.

I wish linux had a good desktop

>>106184520
I agree, especially for files on your root (obviously it's different for your home directory, etc). That's why I said it's on you to deal with that. It shouldn't normally even be an issue unless you're extremely tight for space.

>>106184524
I didn't ask the question, I answered it:
>>106184437

>>106184562
didn't ask, don't care, troon out.

>>106184546
yea, and sure, in cases where you are replacing a ton of files at once, like say you're doing a major system upgrade after having not updated in ages, where you're replacing a significant portion of root, that could cause a snapshot to take up a lot of space. you just need to be aware of how they work. the simplest solution to this is simply ensure you have enough space for all the new files before starting, rather than relying on space that would have otherwise been freed during the updates. and if you fuck up and run out of space during major upgrades... at least you have a snapshot to recover to ;)

>>106184575
I'm not a troon though, seriously though it is right there in the man page.
>man emerge
>/exclude
>First match is --buildpkg-exclude
>Press N to go to next match (or / Enter/Return)
>Next match is --exclude

Whatever AI you were using for 4 seconds is really bad. It can't even read a man page.

>>106184621
tell it to the guy who asked, "michelle"

>>106184479
>Pattern not found (press RETURN)
i've tried asking ai's for commands before, and quickly found they have a bad habit of just making up arguments that don't exist. if you're going to post ai-made commands, at least ensure they actually work before posting it

>>106184544
what is KDE

>>106184621
>>106184643
>>Pattern not found (press RETURN)
Woops. I meant lowercase 'n' if you press 'h' it will show you all of the shortcuts for the GNU less pager though.

>>106173171
Omarchy is the most bloated overdone piece of shit I've ever seen on a Linux system.

>>106184689
Slow, buggy, bloated

>>106184780
runs fine on my 17 year old laptop, how old is your computer?

>>106181093
I thought it was preconfigured?

>>106173588
>Grub is one of the easiest things to install/setup though?

Install gentoo and you'll never say that shit again.

Fuck bootloaders in general, if youre using an efi/uefi machine and not dual booting you can boot right into the kernel without a bootloader btw.

>>106184689
What -IS- KDE?

>>106173960
>Any point in installing gentoo if I don't want to compile anything myself?

I just installed gentoo (bare metal) last night for the first time, it took me about 4hrs.

If you've been using Linux for a little while or longer then I highly recommend at least doing the install process in a virtual machine. I learned so much now everything and I mean everything seems to make a lot more sense across all distros. Gentoo is the best distro by far if you have the chops.

Unfortunately I cannot use it as my daily like I want to because of my kids wanting to play Minecraft and roblox all the damn time. My computer can't be down for a day to emerge the world.

Fan of PikaOS. Friendly helpful discord, seems very stable, everything just works. Running KDE on AMD build.

>>106185077
K Desktop Environment, but not actually since from version 4 the desktop environment was renamed to Plasma and KDE now refers to the whole project/suite of applications. the K originally meant "Kool", but only briefly. it doesn't mean anything

>>106183636
two moar years

>>106184544
What's wrong with Cinnamon?

what does /fglt/ think of Arch Plasma Wayland running on NVidia open kernel driver?

>>106185396
Idk about arch but I’m not getting the best vibes off of nvidia + KDE Plasma Wayland with gentoo. Even on Intel it’s kinda shitty now that I actually have bleeding edge hardware.
Might be skill issue I’ve been wondering if something like Ubuntu would work just fine OotB

>>106185116
Just don’t put Roblox or Minecraft in world. Or use the perfectly suitable binaries.

>>106185472
what do you mean by shitty? Intel's been great even under old hardware

>>106185483
I’ve been getting some issues but I haven’t fucked with it in a few weeks. It’s a fully maxed out thinkpad p16 gen2 with nvidia 5000 16gb and 128gb of ram.
When using the proprietary bleeding edge nvidia drivers on Wayland I get some screen tearing for a second when dragging windows around.
On Intel it just looks like ass. I’m probably just not putting enough effort into my custom kernel either.

>>106185510
maybe it's because you're using bleeding edge hardware, normally linux support lags a bit behind

>>106184461
>Using package.accept_keywords for Stability
>Pins it to a specific version without letting me update it
You can just omit a version number or specify with greater than, less than, or variations of equal too

>>106185472
>>106185510
Forgot to add. I'm using a not-so-recent Legion 5 laptop with Plasma Arch and honest to god it's been the first time it really feels usable, previously it had all sort of issues related to multi monitor display.
Worth saying is that this lap has Zen2 CPU + Turing GPU which are feature complete driver-wise plus I haven't really stressed the laptop with a good workflow since in the past I've encountered issues while developing and heavy multitasking.
Curious to see how it'll behave now

>>106185396
That is my setup, but current Nvidia driver is pretty buggy. 575 one, not 580. Haven't tried that yet. Nothing too critical I guess, just nuisance.

>>106185818
575 running bretty gud here, hopefully jewvidia doesn't drop support for Turing anytime soon with the open drivers

Anyone know any good places to read the in-the-weeds details of how KVM's work and what makes them different/faster than traditional VMs? Everything I can find from typical searches is either slop or so vague and surface level it might as well be. I'm fine paying for an ebook if I must and its well written.

>>106185925
>Anyone know any good places to read the in-the-weeds details of how KVM's work and what makes them different/faster than traditional VMs?
Mastering KVM Virtualization by Humble Devassy Chirammal, Prasad Mukhedkar, Anil Vettathu

But you don't need to dig that deep to grasp why it's that good.
KVM has the performance benefits of a type-1 hypervisor due to being closest to the hardware but with the flexibility of a type-2 hypervisor because it has userland and it's managed through it

>>106185481
I could do that and I plan to do that at some point but I learn best by breaking things so its more of I dont have time for my daily to be unstable via user error and incompetence.
It takes me too long to do anything due to skill level. Gentoo is fucking cool as hell though and I'm 100% going to be using it in the future... at some point.
I have my old thinkpad (t420) I'm thinking about putting gentoo on that but that hardware takes forever to compile. I could use binaries mainly but at that point I might as well just stay on arch.

So I made the switch to linux. Morally I can't steal Windows and I also can't give an evil company money.
Its an overall good feeling, like leaving the house and realizing you were living in filth but got so used to the filth you never noticed.
Its also kinda shit. The problem with open source is that no one can agree on anything not even a format. So you end up with 5 different methods for installing software based on the 5 most popular distros. Competition is fine but these people could be working on making a RGB program or a fan operation system or a file system or something core that actually works rather than forging a new path next to a well trodden one just because you don't like some asinine aspect of it, like the size of the pebbles. I would not say that windows is better but it does clearly show a common direction.
Okay, done bitching and rehashing probably the same shit everyone who switches to linux says.

Best Norton Commander file manager clone?

>>106186247
Midnight Commander.

>>106186278
thank u anon

>>106186214
>Morally I can't steal Windows
If owning isn't owning then piracy isn't theft.

>>106186214
>So you end up with 5 different methods for installing software based on the 5 most popular distros.
once you realize the difference is only superficial you stop caring

>>106180809
>>106181731
When a system boots up and gets internet connectivity, there's not that much work ahead: you slap in packages until system looks done.
The only "weird" part for me was the sound support as every time I'm clueless about pulseaudios and pipewires. And on Arch you got to enable services too, doesn't happen like on Debian.

>play the same video game everyday for years
>switch to linux (mint)
>game immediately runs significantly worse
thanks guys

>>106186953
Your game? Runs better on my machine. Nothing personal, of course.

>>106167514
red hat killed it as a stable alternative to using rhel. you can still run it as centos stream, but it sucks because it's no longer a stable alternative, so nobody actually bothers with it. i've only run it to learn red hat specific things, and even then i prefer just running fedora server.

How many "Linux ecosystems" are there?
As far as I know there's
-Red Hat (Fedora, CentOS (what else?))
-Debian
-Ubuntu (Mint, PopOS)
-Suse
Then there are dev platforms where you compile from sources such as Gentoo and NixOS, right? Can Arch + AUR be considered an ecosystem?

>>106187247
>Red Hat/Fedora
>Debian/Ubuntu
>Arch
>Gentoo
>SUSE
These are the five Linux ecosystems that matter most

>>106187299
Nix

I'm trying to run Dark Souls Remastered with the Seamless Coop mod/online fix. I've gotten online-fix games working via linux before, including the Prepare to Die version of Dark Souls, but the ds1sc.exe program for Seamless Coop crashes on launch. I have a large log file around 1600 lines long. Is anyone here an expert at identifying wine/proton/steam problems through logs? the pastebin is here
pastebin.com/LfW8nBjt

>>106172821
The only difference between it and librewolf are a couple of configs, you absolute retard.

>>106186214
>The problem with open source is that no one can agree on anything not even a format.
Well, the standardized desktop Linux system is:
>systemd
>Wayland
>KDE Plasma (primary DE), GNOME (secondary DE)
>install software as Flatpak, sometimes AppImage or whatever the software dev officially publishes
>Debian, Fedora, Arch, or any distro based on them
And what's probably going to become a standard this or next decade is
>Immutable or Atomic distros

It's just that people are free to create and pick alternatives, so you have a lot of people who are passionate about them. But they're a small minority.
I mean look at these two actually thinking Gentoo and NixOS are relevant in any way >>106187299 >>106187322

>>106187247
Freebsd and slackware, kinda. But your list basically contains 99% of the Linux desktops.
>>106187349
>[S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; no appID found.
Either launch the game from Steam, or put the file steam_appid.txt containing the correct appID in your game folder.
Just skim through it by using err: as argument

>>106187368
>NixOs
15th most popular this month, Arch 26th. 16th and 61st in the last year respectively. Just because it's 2 deep for you doesn't mean it's not relevant. You are less than a drop in the ocean.

>>106187366
And those configs are all about which topic, something starting with "p" maybe. Lmao this retard.

>>106187411
>every click on $(SITE) is an install
You are in for some disappointment

>>106187411
>NixOs 15th most popular this month, Arch 26th
Are you seriously looking at distrowatch as a source on distro market share?
Debian, Fedora and Arch are either used directly or indirectly by over 95% of Linux desktop users. Compared to them NixOS is completely irrelevant.

>>106172703
where's the sandwich? does she get her tits out in this set?

>>106187380
trust me i already tried a steam_appid.txt, i tried both 480 and the actual DSR AppID. the game actually runs fine if i just set the target to the actual game EXE regardless of existence of AppID file, but the seamless coop EXE just doesn't seem to want to call the main EXE.

>>106166751 (OP)
Nvidia release drivers are kinda retarded, just crashes my games withing 2 minutes.
Installed TKG kernel, and beta nvidia-tkg plus proton-tkg.
Works perfectly.

>>106170671
Found this guy on yt like 2 weeks ago. I have to give him credit for editing, it's evident that he put a lot of effort into making his videos. Then I looked at the channel descriotion.
>non-binary
>Arch user (he said it himself in a video)

God damn it, why does Arch attract so many mentally ill people? Specifically trans people? What the fuck?

t. almost got diagnosed with depression (I understand the irony of my post)

>>106188149
>why does Arch attract so many mentally ill people? Specifically trans people?
Let's see
>OS notoriously known for being customizable as fuck, you can literally change anything on it. Average people consider it unstable. It requires constant maintenance.
>Trans people are notoriously known for wanting to customize their appearance and biology, wanting to change everything. They're mentally unstable and require constant coddling.

chat why is my system doing this?

>>106188237
>OS notoriously known for being customizable as fuck, you can literally change anything on it. Average people consider it unstable. It requires constant maintenance.
That's how average people see Linux as a whole

>>106188243
Use the blame feature and it'll tell you:

systemd-analyze blame
systemd-analyze critical-chain

>>106187411
You think every Linux comes with a thing that calls home to say you're still using Linux? Are you learning disabled?

>>106188251
Average people don't even know Linux exists.

I did
>systemd-analyze blame
>systemd-analyze plot > chart.svg
which weren't really helpful because it just told me it's the firmware step.
I now tried this
>systemd-analyze critical-chain
I'm not sure I'm reading it right but I just see
>123ms
added for each step, where is the 59s?

>>106188300
>where is the 59s
BIOS ram training.

>>106188243
How do you look this up?

>>106188310
where does it say that? where do you see that?
it's a new system though so would make sense... allthough I though it only does that on the first bootup.
>>106188311
>systemd-analyze

>>106188237
>arch requires constant maintenance
It's a rolling release, so yeah, I guess. But you don't have to update unless you really want to. I've seen people online that say they haven't updated their Arch systems in many months.
Therefore, I'd say it depends on the user.

I like that it gives you a choice, unlike Windows which will start updating itself in the worst possible moment. Windows also can't be told to shut down without doing an update (I tried to make Windows 10 do that through the shitty command line, it didn't work).

>>106188251
>>106188292
You are both right. Most people don't know about it, but those who know think Linux is esoteric like literal black magic, even though it runs a literal fuckton of servers and devices.

>>106188341
>where does it say that?
Turn off your computer. Hit the button, start a timer.
It takes 55 seconds for me to train 32gb.
Persistent memory training thingy is turned off btw it was making the ram slower. Maybe check your motherboard's bios and enable or disable it.

>>106188350
>Therefore, I'd say it depends on the user.
It depends entirely on the distro. You can't blame the user for updating their system and expecting it not to shit itself.
But, to be fair, most instability in distros comes from using unofficial package sources which affect the system, like AUR in Arch-based distros and PPAs in Debian/Ubuntu-based distros. In this case it does depend on the user in theory, but in reality many online sources of information push the user into making bad decisions. Some distros just don't do a good enough job of telling the user "using this method to install packages can often break your OS if you perform a system update". Immutable distros practically solved this problem by either not allowing you to change the system, or in the case of Fedora by layering system modifications you make. So those distros inherently require less maintenance.

>>106188414
Not that anon, but.
pacman -Syu, nvidia does not work because ad10x etc already exists blahblah
Go to arch website, they already got a notice for it, run the command its fixed.
Takes like 20 seconds.
An user should have luxury, but should also handle problems. If that was winblows, it would've taken me 2 minutes of searching and random registry edits baka my head.

>>106188436
>An user ... should also handle problems.
No
>Go to arch website, they already got a notice for it, run the command its fixed.
A user should never have to do this. A good OS should've handled it in the background.

>>106188457
But none of them does.
When we'll get this "good OS"? Is it located in area 51?

>>106188471
>But none of them does.
>When we'll get this "good OS"?
I've never had to manually intervene in:
>Android
>Fedora Silverblue
>SteamOS
>Bazzite
They always "just worked" no matter if I apply updates immediately or if I wait 6 months to do so.

>>106188414
>(in)stability
Arch has been pretty stable in the last few years. In case of a major fuckup, you can chroot with an installation medium and reverse the update. It's not like you can't fix it, but I understand that it's a lot of work for the average user. I am willing to pay that price in exchange for control over my system.

>AUR
I don't really use the AUR, the only thing I have from there are printer drivers because I have an older printer. I do agree on there not being enough documentation for less common issues. I would like to contribute to fixing that problem, but most things I use (libreoffice, for example) already have pretty solid how-to's.

>updates and system breakages
The archwiki is very adamant about performing full system upgrades, not partial ones. If there is an issue with a new update there will be information on the official site. Remember the recent warning about the firmware packages? I'd say that it was informative enough.
However, I do understand that this is not necessarily an Arch-specific issue. And sometimes shit happens without the developers of any distro intending to do harm.

>immutable distros
Haven't tried one of those. I also don't like the idea that I can't poke around. If I do break something, I want to be able to fix it myself.
Immutable distros are not for me, but I can respect the choices of other users. Use what works for you, only you know your needs and desires.

>>106188492
>it works on my system
When someone makes that argument, you dismiss it.
When you make it, its the facts.
Can you post a screenshot of your linux system? I do need a proof that you do use any of the ones you mentioned.
Here's mine.

>>106188509
>you can chroot with an installation medium and reverse the update
Sure, but this is an unreasonable demand for the overwhelming majority of users.
>If there is an issue with a new update there will be information on the official site
Tracking the official site for potential breakage is also an unreasonable demand.
>I am willing to pay that price in exchange for control over my system.
That's great, you're exactly the target audience for Arch. And there's nothing wrong with it, I'm just saying it's not the ideal experience for most people.

>>106188522
>I do need a proof that you do use any of the ones you mentioned.
>Here's mine.
What the fuck does your image even prove? And what would me posting a screenshot of my system prove exactly?

>>106167514
Aside from the fact RHEL is now free with Rocky, Alma, Oracle (okay and CentOS Stream) as alternatives, nobody seems to really "talk" about any of those distros. Whoever uses them probably just... uses them.

>>106188581
>checking the official site is an unreasonable demand
For most users, yes. But you don't even have to open your browser for this. You can subscribe to the site's RSS feed and set your feeder of choice to run on startup so you can see the latest updates (if there are any). This way it's a bit less of a hassle :P
This is how I check if there's anything new.

>not the ideal experience for most people
I don't refute this, but that's the beauty of Linux - you always have a choice. There's always another distro, WM, DE, etc.

>>106188581
You're a windows shill, you never used linux. You're using it right now either.

Is there any way in Plasma to maximize a window by pressing Start+Up+Up?

How do I cope with everyone using VS Code without the Vim extension, while I'm using Neovim directly? I really don't want to stay out of the mainstream, but editing something and moving the right hand to arrow keys / mouse and back all the time is unbearable (or am I using VS Code wrong?)

>>106188601
>nobody seems to really "talk" about any of those distros. Whoever uses them probably just... uses them.
This was always the case. Corpos never really publicly talk about what they use. Most corpos use Debian, Ubuntu and Alpine.

>>106188703
>RSS feed
Oh man, I haven't used RSS in years. It's nice to know RSS isn't dead.

>>106188724
Take your meds.

>>106188963
I'm not sure if it's a bug or not, but it only works if you unassign the "Meta+Up" shortcut for tiling the window to the top.
It looks like if you assign "Meta+Up, Meta+Up" to maximize the Window, the first "Meta+Up" triggers the tiling and re-sets the shortcut input. So the "double press Up" isn't possible for some reason. At least on Plasma 6.4.3. Again, I'm not sure if this is a bug or some obscure intended behavior.
Also, if I
>have "Meta+Up" assigned to "tile the window up" (this is a default)
>manually assign "Meta+Up, Meta+Up" to maximize the window
>unassign "Meta+Up" from the tiling shortcut
the maximize still won't work. I have to actually assign "Meta+Up, Meta+Up" AFTER I unassign the tiling shortcut. This part definitely seems like a bug.

>>106189066
You imagine yourself as some linux user normie.
You need the meds more, clearly.

>>106186953
>doesn't mention game

>>106188509
>you can chroot with an installation medium and reverse the update
Or set up snapshots with grub-btrfs, then you just reboot and you're set

is there a way to get Arch working as close to a ready-made Ubuntu install as possible?
I want to finally ditch winshit but there's always some stupid shit in linux that makes it ridiculously painful
I have experience with both Arch and Ubuntu which is why I mentioned those
I've never tried Arch's desktop though

>>106189192
>you don't use meme distros, therefore you're not using Linux!!!
Kys Archfag

>>106189265
>I want to finally ditch winshit but there's always some stupid shit in linux that makes it ridiculously painful
Just use Bazzite

>>106189265
CachyOS + pacman

>>106189288
I was thinking about that. Idk, it seems too new and I'm uncertain about whether it will be around in 5 years or if it's another solus or something.
there's a reason people stick with the big distros.

>>106189265
CachyOS + pamac

>>106188243
"firmware" means your bios is what's taking this long
try to look for some form of fast boot setting and also disable csm (msi motherboards call it windows whql support, others may call it differently) in your bios settings
if that fails try updating your bios (but before doing so make a live usb and look into how to create boot entries with efibootmgr because a bios update might delete them and leave you stuck without a bootloader that doesn't work, i can explain more about this if you don't understand it by yourself)
am5 systems (aka ryzen 7th gen and newer) are well known for problems like this, not sure if that's what you have or not
>>106189265
i quite like cachyos and use their packages on a regular arch install, you may as well just install that
if you really, really want arch and not a derivative there's the arch-install script even though it may do certain things you possibly don't want (if you choose kde i believe it will install every single kde application which i find to be too much)
arch doesn't come with a desktop environment, you're the one who has to pick, i think cachy asks you while installing?

>>106189301
Because of the way Fedora Atomic distros work, it doesn't matter if Bazzite is abandoned in 5 years. You will always be able to rebase your system into Fedora Kinoite with a single command without having to reinstall your OS or losing data. And Fedora is literally one of the most important distros out there, so it itself is not going anywhere.

Either way, it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon. It has way too many users and it's infrastructure is extremely maintainable. So unless something very catastrophic happens, it's here to stay.
They're also somewhat influential, as they're one of the reasons why Fedora decided they won't abandon 32bit packages yet (Steam and older Wine versions require them, and Bazzite is the 6th/7th most used distro according to Steam statistics).

Solus was a fully independent distro from what I remember. They weren't a distro like Bazzite or Mint, which use a major distribution as their base system and don't really risk abandonment.

thoughts on void for 32bit i setup archlinux32 but its a shit show because some libs are updated and other software is outdated so tonnes of packages cant be installed together and dont work so i need another distro

>>106166751 (OP)
kino any way to get these old version on a modern distro still trying to setup something on my vaio ux and need soemthing lite this would be cool, also what is that muais player

>>106170673
gnome gayland is fine for vidya ive been using it for years but jsut go with whichever de you prefer, just a note though if youre on nvidia stay away from gnome on xorg or wayland when i had a 3090ti i used to get crashing on gnome frequently it was so bad i sold the card after 2 months

>>106189386
>if you choose kde i believe it will install every single kde application which i find to be too much
It doesn't do that. It installs a very small number of them. Less than I'd normally install manually, but a lot of the system stuff is there.

>>106189279
Can't even post proof that he uses linux.
You're a winfag.

>>106189645
did they change it? i swear it used to install all of kde-applications... good i guess?

>>106189581
>vaio ux
>32bit
You clearly are out choices here, even Debian Trixie is dropping support for 32bit, you should stick with Debian Bookworm

>>106189679
I don't know, because I've only used arch install once and it was pretty recently with the previous version of the installation media. It didn't install very much KDE stuff at all.

>>106189581
>thoughts on void for 32bit i setup archlinux32 but its a shit show because some libs are updated and other software is outdated so tonnes of packages cant be installed together and dont work so i need another distro
install gentoo. no really, why not? how often you gonna update that machine? you can build packages on another machine for it

>>106188471
>buhh it rolling release
honestly kind of sick of arch users acting like this is a real excuse when ive never had to fix my system after running zypper dup

>>106189386
>i quite like cachyos and use their packages on a regular arch install, you may as well just install that
>if you really, really want arch and not a derivative there's the arch-install script even though it may do certain things you possibly don't want (if you choose kde i believe it will install every single kde application which i find to be too much)
>arch doesn't come with a desktop environment, you're the one who has to pick, i think cachy asks you while installing?
yeah I think what I should have asked is how good either the default GNOME/KDE install vs the one you get on Ubuntu.
That's really what it's going to come down to for me.

I already use archinstall (btw).
>>106189416
Isn't Bazzite is based on Arch though?

>>106189899
>Isn't Bazzite is based on Arch though?
No. Where did you even get this from?

>>106189899
>Isn't Bazzite is based on Arch though?
Nah, you're thinking of SteamOS.

>>106189581
>any way to get these old version on a modern distro
Check out TDE
>player
That's Noatun running the "vibrocentric" K-Jofol skin, I think it's still included in Trinity but I doubt it's usable now

>>106189699
well void has official 32bit so thought id try that out never used it before though

>>106189858
>how often you gonna update that machine?
not often but i dont wanna be in a situation where im out of the hosue and need to isntall something and wait 10 hours for it to ccompile on its single core cpu kek
>>106190043
oh trinity? do you know any 32bit distros that ship it?

>>106189699
>>106190043
oh just looking you can get trinity on debian easily will install that i guess

>>106189868
You can't even post a screenshot.
Computer illiterate mofo

>>106190080
>oh trinity? do you know any 32bit distros that ship it?
nta, but Q4OS is pretty much *the* Trinity DE distro. It has a 32bit image too.

>>106188471
Debian does, I apt upgrade all my servers and none of them break, no manual intervention required whatsoever, unlike arch

>t. I use arch btw

>>106190147
I don't know how to post a screenshot, and yet I've used Bazzite for 2 years and never had to open a terminal. It feels really good using an operating system which just works :))
I understand you're only this miserable because you have to waste time fucking around with your OS constantly. Really sad :/

>>106190194
Seethe.
Did you copy paste bazzite from google?

>>106190169
I was gonna mention Q4OS but I'm not sure if they still include the classic KDE 3 themes

>>106189202
[spoiler]melee via slippi[/spoiler]

>>106190212
>Seethe

is there a way to do folder-level encryption on btrfs? i must be going mental because i thought btrfs had this feature but when i ask the AIs it says it doesnt

>>106190314
Is that a screenshot of you?

>>106190388
It does not. The feature you're thinking about is fscrypt which is not supported with BTRFS. You have to make an .img file or use something like Plasma Vault if you're using KDE.

>>106176388
Figured out why pipewire-rtp didnt work
You have to comment or remove
media.class = "Audio/Source"
In the config on the receiver side.
Though pipewire will start popping errors about no target node being available but it works

>>106190169
have you tried it? i tend to stay away from non mainstream distros because they normally have a bad amount of packages etc

>>106190222
Yeah I'm not sure, I haven't used it in 3-4 years. But I doubt they made any breaking changes to TDE which would make old KDE themes incompatible, even if you had to hunt them down yourself.

>>106190691
I used to use it on my ancient PC with 2GB RAM and it was fine. Lasted me 3 years until I threw away the PC. I never had any issues. If I remember correctly it's just a pre-configured Debian and uses their repos for everything, even the TDE.
Not sure if anything changed since I remember some drama about Debian dropping 32-bit and it potentially affecting Q4OS in their next major releases.

>>106190222
i've never used q4os, i heard about it well after i was comfortable with linux so i never had a desire to try it. only responding because their example of TDE is really strange, like a mix of windows xp and modern windows for reasons i can't fathom.
i first tried linux in 2004 with kde 3.2 and it looked and ran great just as it was, as i was naturally a windows user who'd never heard of linux at the time, i don't see the need for windows-ey themes, it just looks so strange to me.
super-accurate windows themes can be pretty neat, but anything half-way just doesn't work for me. kde 3.x looks great on it's own

>>106190943
>mix of windows xp and modern windows
mix of window xp and modern kde* i meant, though i suppose also modern windows since it copies a lot from kde

>>106190943
>their example of TDE is really strange
I'm pretty sure they have multiple themes pre-installed and they're just showing a few of those. They probably wanted former Windows 2000/XP users to switch to Q4OS.

>>106191058
yea, i remember first time i saw q4os it also was also very XP-themed, but that was back when XP was still common and i didn't think it strange. perhaps it's also a case that seeing something XP-themed /now/ is itself unusual, like xp has been dead for some time at this point, even 7 isn't seen too often anymore.
naturally i do understand q4os is more aimed at non-technical people, but i question an xp theme even for them at this point

>>106166751 (OP)
What's the best distro to download for my Raspberry Pi if i just want to use it for experimenting with it, or coding.

>>106191489
Raspberry Pi OS is your best choice. The rest of the distros which are built for RPis are usually specialized for something like networking, servers, gaming, etc. Whereas the official Raspberry Pi OS is just a general purpose OS.

Anyone running Flatpaks know why a Flatpak that's installed and ran through --user would stop working if you deleted /var/lib/flatpak/repo?

I wiped that out because it had grown too big even though I install and run everything via --user but that just led to:
error: While opening repository /var/lib/flatpak/repo: opening repo: opendir(/var/lib/flatpak/repo): No such file or directory


Running the Qt app via strace showed it hanging in a ppol system call which suggests it was waiting on something or other. I have no idea why it would even need to look in /var/lib/flatpak/repo in the first place, I guess that is Flatpak itself doing that.

The reason I delete the repo by the way is because I'd moved everything over to my home directory and installed with --user so shouldn't have needed it anymore but apparently something is wrong somewhere.
I guess I'll just have to live with the 3GB repo for now.

>>106191489
Devuan, if using it headless

Any Neovim user here? I want to integrate a file manager like lf with it, so i can i.e. use it to browse files across my filesystem. I've used the fzf-lua plugin but, unless i'm missing something, you're stuck searching within the same root directory. I.e. If i open $HOME/Projects/a/whatever.sh i can open anything bekow a/ but i want to open another file at $HOME/Projects/b/, i can't

>>106191608
>If i open $HOME/Projects/a/whatever.sh i can open anything bekow a/ but i want to open another file at $HOME/Projects/b/, i can't
nvim-tree can do that

>>106190534
Why yours is better than this>>106176045

>>106191608
Theres vim plugins for both ranger and lf

>>106191725
I dont know if it is or not. You're free to try out both and compare.
The only issue for me is that i dont have the roc stuff packaged for my distro

>>106191577
I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to delete the /repo directory without actually migrating flatpak installations to a different place. It's used to store all the dependencies for your flatpak environment/installation.
>I'd moved everything over to my home directory and installed with --user so shouldn't have needed it anymore
No, this has nothing to do with the --user flag. If you want everything to be in your /home, you need to set up a Flatpak Installation directory there. See this guide from the last thread >>106151822

>>106191770
>i dont have the roc stuff packaged for my distro
What are you using?
maybe it's packaged under different name?

>>106191779
I do have an installation repo in my home directory. I didn't just copy the files I migrated everything across. That 3GB repo is just wasted space but something is still checking for it for some reason.
$ flatpak list --all --system | wc -l
0
$ flatpak list --all --user | wc -l
169


It seems like an obvious bug but I can't pinpoint where it's coming from.

>>106191813
I wonder if it's possible to init an empty repo so whatever is checking for it can at least see that something is there (I tried just making an empty directory on its own but whatever is reading the directory actually validates the structure of the repo)

>>106191811
>What are you using?
Debian and void

>>106191813
Afaik --user and --system are not installations, they're just flags which tell flatpak to install your app system-wide or for your user only. I'm pretty sure they're still treated as being a part of the same installation/repository and their metadata still goes to /var/lib/flatpak. And most importantly here, if you've installed a package system-wide and it pulled a dependency, whenever you install a user package which requires that dependency it would just create a symlink to it instead of pulling a duplicate dependency (this is probably what fucked up your flatpaks, since you've removed these dependencies).

In any case, you shouldn't fuck around with these files and directories manually. I think what you were trying to do was this:
sudo flatpak uninstall --unused --system
sudo flatpak uninstall --all --system


You can also just add the remote repository for your user only this way:
sudo flatpak remote-delete flathub
flatpak remote-add --user --if-not-exists flathub https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

(try this in a VM first, I'm not 100% sure if it works the way I think)

Also check the contents of your
/etc/flatpak/installations.d/

to see if you just have your user repo there.

>>106189581
void i686 is more stable, supported and reliable than archlinux32
probably one of the only reliable 32bit distros still left alongside debian and alpine and maybe also slackware

>>106191950
why do you hate yourself?

>>106173052
The pic is KSI Linux

New thread >>106192279

>>106186102
>I could use binaries mainly but at that point I might as well just stay on arch.
How does that make any sense at all? Just use gentoo. Unless you're reading the GCC manual and putting shit tons of Cflags in your make.conf you're not really benefitting from compiling from source anyways.
Useflags as user control are nice though.

>>106192044
>I'm pretty sure they're still treated as being a part of the same installation/repository and their metadata still goes to /var/lib/flatpak
You'd be wrong because your user doesn't even have permission to write there. There is a different repository in ~/.local/share/flatpak/repo

>>106193665
>>106192044
Also those commands do nothing by the way because I have nothing installed in the system repo and when I say I manually migrated everything I mean I did so via Flatpak commands similar to what you posted but still this useless repo is 3GB large and something is looking at it and complains if I delete it:
$ sudo du -h -s /var/lib/flatpak/repo
3.0G /var/lib/flatpak/repo


I also don't think you're supposed to explicitly add your users Flatpak repository to /etc given you're user may not even have administrative rights. I think it's just supposed to work regardless but something is wrong somewhere if the system wide repo gets deleted for some reason.