No private messaging for Europoors

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>>106172043 (OP)
Vlad, do us all a favour and fuck off. You can keep posting this type of shit all you want but we all know you live in a shit hole where your government arrests young girls for posting refinery fires on social media.

>>106172043 (OP)
We follow maybe 1/10 EU regulations here locally. Just nobody cares and they have no means of enforcement :D

>>106172091
>>106172103
The cope is off the charts. Your continent is becoming worse than Russia and yet you ignore the boot being shoved up your ass

>>106172043 (OP)
what even counts as a private message? what happens if you modify a text file over ssh and someone else opens it? is the eu now going to just ban encryption altogether?

>>106172111
Ignore, exactly. Literally nobody here gives a crap, we have our own laws. EU is there to leech money off

Lol amerimutts
Lol eurocucks
Lol vatniks
Lol chinks

t. thirdworlder

>>106172111
If you think where you live on the planet dictates that your wrongthink is secure on your backdoored device, then you're the one who is coping son.

>>106172091
Clapping back at muh russians on 4channel won't bring an end to European authoritarianism.

>>106172168
Agreed, I'm just getting sick of all the Fancy Bear and Sandworm misinformation posts.

>>106172091
post your vaccine passport

>>106172043 (OP)
What happens if you lean over to whisper in someone's ear in the EU? Jail, interrogation, or what?

What the fuck has happened over the past few WEEKS to cause this shit? What do these governments and corporations know that we don't?

>put unelected oligarchs in charge of everything
>creating a rubber stamp parliament giving the illusion of democratic consent
>wonder why the oligarchs are primarily concerned with the continuity of their oligarchy

>>106172216
>What do these governments and corporations know that we don't?
Epstein's list contents

>>106172211
So usually the nation states of the EU implement EU regulations as local laws, because the EU has no authority to declare the law directly.

What happens depends on where you live, in some countries state attorneys are super anti EU while in others they are eager EU followers.

>>106172043 (OP)
Btw.: There is nothing that prevents you from declaring your own laws, you just need to have enough support among the people

>>106172216
The public opinion of the youth has shifted from the state mandated baseline, this is because they are seeing the horrors being live streamed without regular media filtering. This is nothing but an attempt to bring things back in order

>>106172224
You are talking about Russia here, right?

>>106172043 (OP)
>government replaces you with garbage from shitholes
>do nothing
>implements spyware that reads all your communications
>do nothing
Perhaps we deserve it. No, we deserve worse for being good goys.

>>106172216
Jews think that AI is their messiah and that the end times are here so they're rushing to fulfill the messianic preconditions required to make him appear, which means immediate and total war against everything in the ME, and this will obviously include boots on the ground because they can't do it themselves, so what you're seeing is a wartime censorship across all of NATO so that they do not accidentally summon Hitler in place of the messiah. The tariffs are a way of gathering the funds for that war, contrary to the stupid bluff used to justify them, and so is the push to force the fed to cut the rates. Random federalization of DC, Witkoff (originally the envoy to the ME) randomly negotiating with Putin as if one has any relation to the other (it does - they're negotiating for Iran), etc etc.

>>106172209
Post your diagnosis of any of the three major types of retardation.

>>106172310
nope, we're talking about the free and democratic EU.

>>106172113
They can't stop you from doing anything, but it's easy to regulate an actual messaging business. So you're still be free to chat on IRC with absolutely nobody

>>106172043 (OP)
Europeans are cattle and need to be treated as such.

>>106172216
It happened years ago, but they agreed to make it real in 2025. You voted for this? I didn't.

>>106172322
I don't believe in vaccines, climate change, nor communism

>>106172091
yeah this. anyone who says they'd have a problem with hugely benevolent and protective EU bureacrats / their puppets (who literally only have the interest of !!protecting children!! in their mind and literally nothing else) reading all their private messages must be a russian propagandist

>>106172466
>You voted
kek, I love this cope

>>106172216
Either WW3 or civil war is imminent.

FIND AND CONTACT YOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/home

TELL THEM NO

Klaus won.

>>106172635

>>106172662
Has Chat Control been signed into law?

>>106172635
People who pass such measures believe that a mass dissent, coup or even a revolution is imminent. "Telling" them anything would be like trying to pet a cornered animal. You don't just petition your way out of this, you make it stop by accelerating the thing that they're scared of and forcing them to the negotiating table at gunpoint. Metaphorically or literally.

>>106172662
ceos are getting luigi'd and the news don't report on it. I hope more luigi habbenings continue to escalate

>>106172687
The language you use with your member of parliament needn't be submissive. Don't tell them "I am asking you to vote my way", tell them "I am ordering you to vote my way, and there will be consequences for failure to do so".

>>106172407
everybody is and everybody is treated as such.
each 1st world system is like a character build, you win some you lose some, but all 1st world builds are good to finish the game.
muricans are as cucked as everyone else because if you don't work you basically die. the real measure of slavery/freedom is if you don't have to work to live a happy life. which isn't possible, anywhere, at group level. so fuck off with your bullshit

>>106172700
>and there will be consequences for failure to do so
also known as the "I won't do shit" bluff

if it didn't work in America where there are billions of guns then you can be damn sure that it won't work here either. And by the way you're in an arms race with Palantir who already have sufficient intel on most of us to lift the fog of war of a potential rebellion. This is a war of attrition that you're bound to lose and petitioning for years is exactly what they want you to do.

>>106172091
Reddit is that way

>>106172601
none of those, plebs will get cucked harder and they won't do shit.
>>106172216
AI algorithms told them plebs are starting to figure out they're being farmed and this is probably a good solution to keep them in check. which is fine, shit show must go on, the spice must flow.

they would gonna LOVE what they see me SEND

>>106172746
How is she so mid

>>106172635
I have and got a reply back within a day that they agree with me and will fight it

didn't expect such a reaction honestly

>>106172756 no, You just have no taste, shes borderline perfect

>>106172769
Based. We need more like you. My girlfriend (German) won't bother because "it's EU council shit and they're beyond democratic control". But doesn't the parliament need to approve of the laws anyways?

>>106172711
The supreme court just kind of crushed that in Germany

https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2025-08/regeln-fuer-staatstrojaner-einsatz-sind-in-teilen-verfassungswidrig

The police just got their spying authorities severely diminished

>>106172812
>doesn't the parliament need to approve of the laws anyways?
Uhhhh jidf-bros...?

>>106172216
Sentiment against a certain middle eastern country has grown too large.

>>106172835
based Germany

>>106172850
I think that's just a distraction, the real issue is the carbon control grid. Normies are starting to find out about photosynthesis.

Police and intelligence services in germany is no longer allowed to share data between federal states, unless:

> "The preventive storage of personal data relating to accused persons and suspects is only
permissible if there are actual indications that, due to the nature or execution of the offense, the
personality of the person concerned, or other findings, there is a sufficient likelihood
that the person concerned will commit criminal offenses in the future and that the further processing of the
stored data can contribute to their prevention and prosecution."
5. Section 77 is amended as follows:
a) In paragraph 6, sentence 1, the words “paragraphs 1 to 3” are replaced by the words “paragraphs 1 to 3 and 7 and 8.”
b) After paragraph 6, the following paragraphs 7 and 8 are inserted:
b) The following paragraphs 7 and 8 are inserted after paragraph 6:
"(7) For the review periods for deletion pursuant to Section 75 (4) of the Federal Data Protection Act, the following applies to personal data of accused persons and suspects stored in the police information network as a precautionary measure
: the review period for deletion may not exceed
1. five years for adults, four years for juveniles, and two years for children, provided that the reason
1. five years for adults, four years for juveniles, and two years for children, provided that the occasion
is a serious offense pursuant to Section 100a(2) of the Code of Criminal Procedure;
"

https://www.recht.bund.de/bgbl/1/2025/171/VO.html

It used to be the case that they could just exchange any type of data about someone between them, now there is a whole lot of bureaucracy and other hurdles involved

>>106172878
whatever you say, rabbi

>>106172880
makes sense if they listen to their government. these measures are discussed in places where pleb start questioning their rulers

>>106172601
Global Civil War

>>106172901
no such thing. AI agents are getting better at propaganda and this is merely a reaction to that projected future.

>>106172216
There's fear of civil conflict among the elites as they lose control of the narrative and the idea that the digital all seeing eye can make precrime a reality is incredibly appealing to these people.
That way the narrative can get back under their control and they don't have to concern themselves with silly things like maybe not shoving things down the public's throats that they don't want. Don't pivot on policy for popular sovereignty. Arrest the ringleaders. Jail more for facebook posts pointing out reality.

How do you even enforce that?

>>106172043 (OP)
EU cattle deserves to die in a bloody war for the empire.
No refunds.
You are only disposable meat.

>>106172959
It's client side, so the same way you enforce Play Store attestation.

>>106172959
Google play store. Google has created a hardware->software attestation chain and they're hungry to roll it out. Basically how it works is all software running on the phone is cryptographically signed, and the hardware is anti-tamper so they basically know that the code they released is the code that your phone runs. If the code has a backdoor in it to intercept your communications, you can't turn this off and modify the app or the runtime in memory because then signing will fail.

>>106172988
but this won't affect just private messaging

>>106172971
>>106172988
I don't have Google Play

>>106172994
Well duh but this is just the tool they will use to make sure you can't turn it off. Obviously GPS attestation is basically the end of controlling your own device and the software on it. Companies can roll out any form of spyware and tracking and you can't do shit.

>>106172998
Me neither. You may be able to run some apps on a more free device by modifying the app to bypass attestation, but the real nail in the coffin is that these apps always communicate with third party servers, and THOSE can verify your attestation - say before giving your app a session to access data or using any live functions. This is simply not bypassable.

>>106173006
you can avoid using any phone that does this.
>but my bank app
get a phone a use it just to log in, keep it off rest of the times

>>106173006
>these apps always communicate with third party servers,
I meant 'almost always'. Like banking, or internet browsing, etc.

>>106173015
That's the idea. The only real thing you can do is have two different phones, one that is attested and spied and completely locked down by cuckware that you do the bare minimum on, then your real phone. They're both likely going to be registered to you so it's not like it's a ghost phone or anything, it's just one outside of the attestation prison.

>>106173020
you have to do the only thing you can do, not use that shit. what else are you going to do? dictate what google does with their shit? you can't. they'll do whatever the fuck they want with both hardware and software. melting down over that won't achieve shit, mainly because you're disorganized cattle and they're thousands of very smart employees strong all thinking about how to get you use it with the least complaints/least ways of opposing it. it's a losing battle. just do something else, like stop using that shit. that's all there is to it.

>>106172850
The Third Temple will fix everything. Trust the plan.

>>106173006
Huh. I just use my web browser to access twitter, what can the communists do about that? I already see some posts are hidden with an age verification disclaimer.

>>106173043
In theory they can just stop you from logging in unless you're also sending a cryptographically verified attestation signature. Or seeing any content.
I don't think twitter will do this, and besides, you should just stop browsing twitter anyway. Shut that shit off.

>>106172122
As a finn i hate this.
Because i would like us to be like you, but instead we are cucks who follow every regulation 100%

>>106172959
You don't. The moment they try to implement it as a law, every constitutional court will stomp you into the dirt.
We had a bunch of cases wher ethe cops arest some faggot based on phone records, for it to then turn up they never requested a court permission for said records.

People should get used to calling this what it is; Warrentless wiretapping.

this will come to the US shortly as well if it passes. all the firstie countries are implementing mass surveillance & id verification, so much for the free western world

>>106173128
I meant technically. how would you stop encrypted data from being set

>>106173149
Yeah, cool thing bruv.
I've got some things they'll call you too: Paedophile, terrorist.

That's right, they already have a defence and surprise, surprise buddy. It's you. You're the extremist, why else would you smear something that's being implemented in the name of security?
Nothing to hide, nothing to fire my dear fellow. Welcome to the reality of normalfags and using children and safety as a moral argument.
The former is ever powerful with the moral religious folks, the busy bodies, those seeking virtue and parents who can't take care of their kids. The latter? The people who stirred up anti-immigration sentiment for years, so we never got back to the pre-2007, 2005, 2001 days.

Neoliberal governments learned they can do whatever the fuck they want and nobody will stop them.
Look for the names they use, they don't call themselves neoliberals, they call themselves social democrats or just outright centrists, centre right, right wing.

You're not winning this war. Welcome to smart phone hell. You are never returning to 2006.

>>106172091
Пoшeл нaхyй, вы тaм и бeз нac цифpoвoй гyлaг пocтpoитe.

>>106172216
People, like, actually normal, well adjusted people, different from the average 4chan schizo, started noticing the atrocities of the jews and questioning if what they knew about holocaust and all that follows is actually real. For the first time after the 40's.
Only because everyone have access to unregulated informations, 24/7.
I'm sure you can do 2+2, anon.

>>106172700
>and there will be consequences
You can be commanding without sounding menacing. They can literally charge you with something if you use this kind of wording.

>>106172216
One shit fling is used to hide the creation on another shit fling. Result: a massive shitstorm.

>>106172043 (OP)
>having a need to message others

>>106172635
It's worth a try desu.

>>106172043 (OP)
B-but I was told the EUSSR is so based and always fights for the rights of the proletariat and shit.

>>106172091
If you've ever wondered how Europe went from ruling the world to being a free-rape zone for third-worlders, it's because of anons like this.

>>106172043 (OP)
iOS = botnet crap
Android = botnet crap

The future
https://plasma-mobile.org

>>106173694
>https://plasma-mobile.org

>>106173694
christ it's painful to even imagine how fucking buggy this piece of shit is

you gotta be extra retarded if you think they don't already do that

>>106173694
Which one?

>>106173447
according to this thread, it would affect anything that uses encryption.

>>106174355
In France, the cops can force you to unlock all your encrypted devices and if you say no they lock you up for a few years. It was pretty over already for us, but we enter the IT IS SO OVER territory now.

>>106174365
you can still use panic passwords or whatever they are called that wipe up everything

>>106174365
There are no accounts of this actually ever happening

>>106174365
It's the other way around actually, you can arrest them if someone, police or not, demands to unlock your encrypted data

>>106174365
when entering america you have to do that too.

>>106174890
To extend:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen%27s_arrest
In general, it will depends on your jurisdiction, but a criminal offense against you, like someone demanding you decrypt your device, generally warrants you to arrest them in many countries.

>>106174918
May you show me such a law?

if it's private, they wouldn't know about it by definition.
the best this could lead to is P2P solutions making a mainstream comeback.
but this is exactly why they will not go through with this. because a shitload of pseudo-private communication (((we))) know about, is better than not knowing at all.

>>106175063
ok I pulled a retard here and misremembered, it's actually not a law, but you may be subject to device inspection.
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority/border-search-electronic-devices

>>106175063
i see the charade is still going.
(((they))) already have access to your cloud and social media accounts. lol.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104533300/#q104533748

>>106175207
I personally do not use cloud services aside from github and have no sm accounts.
> (((they))) already have access to your cloud and social media accounts. lol.
Doesn't seem like it's well organized given by the number of false negatives (that is, people lying about having Social media)

>>106175063
An USA aeroport is not a part of the USA. The laws do not apply. If the TSA wants to gangbang you in all holes, you are free to decline and turn back, but to proceed you better lube your holes.

>>106172043 (OP)
Then I will simply not speak.
I'll become a hobo, a vagrant
Glowies won't know where I am and what I'm doing till I've already done it.
What a wondrous gift this nanny state has offered me.

>>106172043 (OP)
This shit happens every year because the home affairs office wants to look like they're doing their jobs.
What changed from when they last proposed this shit (last year)? Because it's clear that this goes against their own courts.

>>106173058
Anon just go to Hungary
They're the definition of leech

>>106172043 (OP)
Back to IRC everybody

>>106172043 (OP)
Like many EU laws, this one is unenforcable. Because like, how? Would love to hear some /pol/ tourist proving me wrong.

>>106173054
>Or seeing any content
That's pretty much what happens on my end already, since I don't log in. Any twitter link shows "oops, something went wrong".

>>106177921
Back to talking in code, or just using ancient arameic or sanskrit

>>106172043 (OP)
Patriot act, shut the fuck up in the future, retarded mutt

>>106179114
This!
Americans have the Patriot act, so it is fine for us to do something even more dystopian!

>>106177935
scanning on the client

>>106172043 (OP)
>>106179114
>>106179133
This boggles my mind. What is the point to announce to everyone that you will be eavesdropping on their private correspondence instead of just quietly listening in without them knowing? It just means they're gonna go where there's no one listening in.

>>106177935
This.

>>106173555
but but but, america bad

>>106179172
Enforcing this is impossible, since you would have to turn all computers, from smartphones and SBCs to laptops and workstations, from obsolete e-waste to latest hardware, into glorified vending machines, which is physically impossible and the mere attempt to do so would most likely end up causing damage to our supply chain that would be so severe that Collapse OS would actually find some real use cases. In any other case, everyone who would actually want to communicate privately would be able to do so.

it's still private messaging, my neighbors can't watch my conversations.

>>106177935
>Like many EU laws, this one is unenforcable
how so? they will just ask big corps to do it like the us gov/five eyes did with google

>>106180578
A fair share of them will leave UE if you push them do compromise their own algorithms, the same way they (almost) left UK when they tried to force them to do so. On the other hand, doing this on device level is not a good idea either (see >>106179807).

>>106180559
that's not what private means

>>106172043 (OP)
pff, I don't hit send, I click Submit.

>>106179807
they're already having great success with millions of smartphones with permalocked bootloaders being shipped yearly and growing

>>106179807
if stuff like this was impossible to enforce then there wouldn't be any socialist / communist nation on the planet. but there are, like north korea, but it IS possible to enforce.

>>106180801
Cool but there are plenty of unlockable ones + nothing stops you from just... you know, not chatting with people directly on smartphones, you can do this on actual computer as well. I get it most people won't bother with unlocked phones, custom roms etc. but they probably have at least one normal desktop, that noone can control so easily.

>>106179807
It's definitely, without question, enforceable on smartphones, both Android and iOS.
And nobody cares about your private self hosted nerd shit you access on your PC.
You will not be able to use WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram on your PC, because the EU will fine them to death if they publish a PC application that doesn't scan messages or has an easy bypassable scan.
web.telegram.org will simply stop operating within the EU, reminder that France already jailed the telgram founder because he didn't censor wrong think.

>>106173555
> The law stipulates that individuals who incite hatred against specific groups based on nationality, race, religion or ethnicity, or who assault the dignity of others through insults or defamation, may face imprisonment ranging from three months to five years. Furthermore, those who distribute, display or produce materials inciting hatred or assaulting dignity may face imprisonment for up to three years or a fine.

Christ. This is grim. "Incite hatred" or "assault dignity" could literally mean anything. If a culture thinks jerking off in public is a good thing, and you complain about it is that "assaulting" their dignity?

I can't in good faith as a German even condone this kind of moral grandstanding faggotry. Germany needs it's own first amendment.

>>106180891
Whether or not its unlockable doesn't matter at all.
Play Attestation is very successful in making sure that you only run an App in a verified secure system downloaded from the Play Store.
And that's what is going to happen.
Reminder that Signal doesn't allow their app to be delivered on FDroid. So the most glowing glowfag App on the planet, that every EU shill shills, is already covered.

>>106172043 (OP)
man in the middle attack on all civilians, friends will be impossible to make.

>>106180993
>enforceable on smartphones, both Android and iOS.
>install GrapheneOS
>disable all telemetry
>only turn it on when you want to use the EUDI wallet to buy beer
>the EU will believe you are teleporting all over town
What now?

>You will not be able to use WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram on your PC
Why would you even want to? One day Viber just stopped working for some reason and I never bothered reinstalling it. Besides, why use and pay for any of them to make calls when Discord does worldwide voip for free?

> because the EU will fine them to death if they publish a PC application that doesn't scan messages or has an easy bypassable scan.
Pirate them.

Besides, the EU wants to switch to linux.

>>106172216
>People see videos of what's going on in Israel/Palestine on TikTok
>Anti-Israeli sentiment rises
>TikTok is banned
>Anti-Israeli sentiment is still rising
If they wanted to pacify the younger generations, they'd increase their access to porn, not decrease it. Porn and alcohol keep the masses tame. I still can't understand why they think banning porn will help them stay in control. I suppose they're just out of touch.

>>106180879
>if stuff like this was impossible to enforce then there wouldn't be any socialist / communist nation on the planet.
Well, communists don't have to censor your access to free information when they just hold you at gun point. Even people in China or Cuba do have unrestricted access to information when they really want to, but their societies never actually went democratic at the first place, so they simply don't care. You usually can't have democracy in a nation that never knew it at the first place. That is why those people hardly ever protest and their revolts usually bring them nothing. A fair share of people on this website lives in somewhat democratic countries, and in this case, free access to information is crucial to preserve it, as you can't have long term democracy without it. North Korea is a very odd case, because most people are simply not allowed to access the regular internet and they use their own intranet for most stuff. Doing something like this is normally impossible without breaking the global economy, and even some north koreans have their own ways of accessing the external internet (for example with smuggled chinese phones that connect to external cell towers). A while ago, Russia tried to rebuild their internet the way it works in China, but half way there they figured out that its technically too hard to do, so they just came back to old methods of censorship, like asking Apple to ban VPN apps in Russian app store for example.

friends are impossible to make

All in favor of becoming more lonely and more fearful say I

>>106172091
You dont go outside too often i see but dont worry they will get to you sooner or later. Get some weapon just in case. If police can hide rapes and pedo crimes committed by illegals they can also hide murders.

>>106181081
>>install GrapheneOS
>>disable all telemetry
Cool what messenger are you using?
Because GrapheneOS does not pass Play Attestation

>>106173694
>https://plasma-mobile.org
>>106173715
woahhhhh I can see using this permanently in the future. can't wait to try this.

>>106180720
nah, most of them literally paid billions of fine to EU to stay.

>>106181085
Gun point is coming to the west

>>106172091
Absolutely delusional.

>>106173527
This. I don't know how one can be so retarded as to unironically trust the fucking EU.

>>106181158
>install GrapheneOS
will be outlawed in eu. we outlawed firearms, we will do the same with dangerous software.

>>106172216
opinions are shifting, the system is not sustainable and heads need to fly.
it will happen because these subhumans won't do the only thing that would soothes the mass, distribute the money.
dumbfucks

>>106172043 (OP)
Aha, finally the long-overdue breakup of the so-called European "Union." Sovereign nations rejoice!

Shouldn't have taken the vax.
It's almost as if CoViD was a test for how compliant you are.

yurocucks learn their place

>>106172216
jews are scared because of the recognition of palestine in the west and zoomers hating them

>>106173715
which phone has the best support?

Why don't you just make an European Citizens Initiative against it?
Surely collecting some signatures will fix it.

>>106181033
>Whether or not its unlockable doesn't matter at all.
Kind does, since like, software can't spy on you if its not installed on your device, but I can't really see how they would enforce it at the first place in EU.
>Play Attestation is very successful in making sure that you only run an App in a verified secure system downloaded from the Play Store.
Play attestation doesn't work like that. It just allows the developer to check if the app that makes request was not tampered with. It will not prevent you from installing apps from 3rd party sources. You should probably do the minimal amount of research before posting something completely false here.
>Reminder that Signal doesn't allow their app to be delivered on FDroid
But you download it from their website just fine.
>So the most glowing glowfag App on the planet, that every EU shill shills, is already covered.
Meds and BBC.
>>106180993
>It's definitely, without question, enforceable on smartphones, both Android and iOS.
installing software from 3rd party sources is a fundamental functionality of android, and its not really going away anytime soon. There are also ways to install 3rd party software on IoS. Regardless, as I said, you can just chat on your desktop instead.
>And nobody cares about your private self hosted nerd shit you access on your PC.
I literally never implied that. I meant to say that you can use desktop versions of chat apps just fine.
>You will not be able to use WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram on your PC
>web.telegram.org will simply stop operating within the EU
This is complete, utter bs. Like, I don't even know where to start, dude. If you unironically believe stuff like that then its a clear sing that you are very, very tech-illiterate person and you are most likely at the confidence peak of Dunning-Kruger effect. You should really do better research before posting so fake and demoralizing stuff like this.

>>106181253
Meta, Apple, Signal foundation and few other services openly stated before that they would rather leave UK than compromise their own security, that's why they backed out of that. They are pretty much guaranteed to act the same way in regards of EU.
>>106181264
Would love to see that.

Are we done pretending that Governments ever had an interest in freedom, even when they're being headed by self-professed eleutheromaniacs?

>>106181083
that's easy to explain from a "big brother" conspiratorial PoV actually.
abundance is the enemy of want. so sex or porn as a tool of distraction becomes a much weaker weapon with constant oversaturation provided by that abundance. so the abundance must be artificially removed.
this is also why there will never exist the mere incentive to create a society where everyone can be financially secure. because the controlling tools require want, or even dependence.

>>106181509
then they will leave. most eu citizens want us tech to go away.

>>106181554
>then they will leave.
and it wont stop europeans from using it, just saying.

>>106172043 (OP)
Maybe a whataboutism, but Snowden literally proved americucks got fucked in their ass by the glowies without any rule like this. Or then a new legislation passes which is somehow bipartisan. Lol, lmao even.

Also even if this passes, it's a non-constitutional act in most, if not all countries, so EU basically can do jack shit against countries not respecting this.

>>106181572
then why they are paying the fines?

>>106173555
hot AND xenophobic!? yes please!

that's it, I am moving to Balkans

>>106181590
Snowden proved that the NSA spies on Merkels phone.
And what were the consequences?
Germany just took it up the ass and thanked the USA for it, while pledging alliance and swearing that they will immediately lock up Snowden if he ever enters Germany.

>>106181650
Imagine my shock the biggest economic powers at that time can threaten and bully other countries into submitting while anally probing them. Couldn't be me!

Governments don't need such regulation to make this happen. Glowies here in Romania tap phones and spy on all communications just so they can track investigative journalists and then blackmail/bully them into not talking about the corrupt politicians. Who's gonna punish them? The justice system? Lol

>>106181593
For what? I am european and I can't remember paying any fines for accessing content restricted in my country/entire EU.

>>106172091
The appeal of being a nice place to live is not turning into a shithole like russia.

>>106181710
facebook/meta paid +2 billions euros in fine

>>106181782
and what this has to do with things I have said earlier?

>>106181899
if those corps could just stay in the us and still have access to the eu market, they would do it instead of paying billions in fine, building bid data centers, opening offices and hiring thousands of people.

>>106172113
don't forget that EU tried to ban encryption too
almost as if they want to collapse their whole government through sheer retardation

at least other governments try to be sneaky about monitoring their people without actually exposing them to global agencies

>>106181960
>don't forget that EU tried to ban encryption too
wrong. you would have to share the key with the authorities.

i do wonder sometimes what's keeping me living in the glorious free west. I can get the same level of psychotic privacy invasion that i do in the UK by moving to China, except the food is better and i'm not surrounded by machete wielding gimmegrants, or i can move to some third world south american country and be surrounded by machete wielding locals but have practically 0 restrictions (assuming they even have an internet connection in El Conqusitatortilla or whatever).

>>106181953
rebuilding their entire software stack and breaking their software security just for EU can't be compared to just paying fines.

>>106181158
>Cool what messenger are you using?
I don't use any communication apps.

>>106172043 (OP)
If only those Euros would stop grooming and molesting children on the internet!

>>106182085
they will comply, you will see.

>>106182085
all they have to do is just accept a token from the EU servers. It's literally a log in with Discord button.

>>106172111
>worse than Russia
Russia is only bad if you fall for NATO propaganda.