Thread 106202252

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues still reported; update BIOS before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>106123743

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106192353

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
ASUS WOLED with TrueBlack Glossy film launched (XG32UCWMG, XG32UCWG). Limited availability.

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

should i pull the trigger or wait for 24gb version

>>106202329
Performance for a 5070 ti won't be limited by vram. 1440p is solved and if you want more it's probably better to go up a card

>>106202329
beware

>>106202329
Wait if you don't need a new card right now, but all those Super cards will be overpriced for a while.
There are some QC issues with those base MSRP PNY models; hopefully they've addressed the rattling fans.
The RTX 40 base MSRP PNY cards also had an annoying zero-rpm fan implementation (runs on and off too often).

>>106202329
9070xt is cheaper and faster

>>106202252 (OP)
Haven't built a pc since ddr3 was a thing.
Looking to build a workstation with a 9950X3D.
I was thinking of doing 4x48GB for 196 gigs of ram 6000CL30, but is the whole 4 sticks of DDR5 RAM perf problem still a thing?

>>106202385
>>106202380
I bought one a week ago. Warranty should cover it right? Right?

>>106202417
meh, its just fans anyway
you can always ziptie 120mm case fans onto the heatsink and solve the issue

>>106202425
>it's just a $750 product bro just zip tie some fans to it bro

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SHADY BLACK MARKET DEALS

JENSEN DOING ILLEGAL THINGS BEHIND TRUMPS BACK?

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>>106202403
>but is the whole 4 sticks of DDR5 RAM perf problem still a thing?
It can be done but you have to have lucky silicon on your memory controller and likely tune it. No guarantee to work but it has been done and it has worked. It's insane to me that they can't figure out how to run 4 sticks at advertised speeds out of the box. Apparently they are going to put the memory controllers on the ram itself next time instead of the cpus.

>>106202472
Not my problem I got a hellhound 9070xt.

>$1080 5070ti sold out
kek

>>106202533
I don't buy anything not at msrp so I don't care

>>106202533
People will buy all rog machines despite fat steves best efforts

>$150 difference in the price between an 8GB graphics card and the 16GB model of the same graphics card
What the actual fuck?

>>106202329
Use the capital one cash back extension, visit the site, wait like 2 days, and get offered 10-16% cash back. I got 10% today

>>106202583
Especially bad because vram I'd cheap to add

>>106202417
Return the card if it has the rattling fans & if you're annoyed by their zero-RPM implementation.

>>106202388
>3360mhz
uhh >>106201848

>>106202603
Is their 0 rpm different?

>>106202583
happens when 9 out of 10 people are buying the 16gb cards and causing a shortage while 8gb cards rot on shelves and need to be discounted to be moved

>>106202501
Is it a cooling issue? Seems kinda silly, especially for a high end cpu+mobo, but I am out of touch nowadays lol

>>106202501
msi seem to be the only manufacturer trying to make 4x dimm work on their boards
still dependent on having a non crap IMC on your cpu though

woah wtf, I just learned about this. Has this general seen the BF6 cpu performance yet?

>>106202607
That's why I tell people they shouldn't use Time Spy benchmarks to judge OC stability.
The personal/world records posted in 3DMark are stable enough to get a single valid result (with a lot of prep), doesn't mean anything beyond that.

just wait two years or buy a ps5 pro?

>>106202642
this is retardbait right?

>>106202403
Settle with a 2x 64GB DDR5 kit if you want a balance of speed & capacity.
Buy a single set of 4x DIMM DDR5 if you need all that capacity.

>>106202629
amd/intel are up against physical signalling limits with ddr5 and didnt put any engineering work into getting 2 dimms per channel working

>>106202329
Super is probably going to be a way for Nvidia to raise prices. If you don't want to spend $1000+ sure why not.

>>106202649
I always wait until games are $30 or less. Before covid hyperinflation I would wait for $15 or less.

>>106202642
only for like the 13th time

>>106202657
Everyone who shills or ragebaits on the internet is either ai generated or a poor foreigner trying to farm engagement. Never respond under any circumstances, simply block them

>>106202642
Any time a game comes out sans optimization, the developers should all be lined up and repeatedly tazed.

>>106202649
GTA Online changed the economics & priorities of that series, PC port won't take two years to land.
I'm guessing console gamers buy more of GTAO MTX, but Rockstar will rush out the PC release as fast as they can.

>>106202568
i buy rog too but spending extra on a strix when you could have gone with a basic 5080 is plain dumb

>>106202666
are you saying you are going to wait 11,5 years to play gta6 just because you are this stingy with money?

>>106202692
I have no clue

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>106202715
Are you on the latest drivers? Heard those were good

Again, never engage with shills or ragebait, they aren't real people

>>106202658
>>106202659
Gotcha.
I'd probably go with 2x64 without thinking too hard about it except they all seem to have higher latency.

>>106202714
Yes and as a bonus I never have to worry about my pc hardware. By the time aaa games are where I would buy them I can play them in 4k. I only just got cyberpunk during the summer sale and I play it in 4k with ray tracing on high on my 9070xt. At release in 2020 I would have needed a 3090 to do this that cost over $2500 in the market. I got my 9070xt for $630.

>>106202738
You go single rank (2x 16/24GB) if you're prioritizing speed & latency.
There are tradeoffs with different memory configs; no single solution.

>>106202738
current 2x64gb kits are all micron made which means they have loose timings
hynix 64gb sticks with tighter timings are supposed to be available any time from now to the end of the month judging by g.skill's announcement 3 months ago

>>106202729
Why do people keep falling for these?

>>106202759
Yeah that's fair. 6000MHz is an obvious choice, but everything else I need to think about some more. Would be much easier if 4 sticks didn't have problems.

>>106202765
I don't visit this site as often so I didn't know

>>106202760
Oh lol maybe I just need to wait a bit. Not in a rush, just planning rn

>>106202779
Good man.

>>106202757
if you don't give a single fuck and shit you don't care about I guess it's fine
other than that you are hitting peak insanity levels
fine if you don't care about random slop but you are just saying you don't wanna play the shit, which is fine
"wait 10 years" is an absolutely unhinged take however, it's funny
anyway

>>106202794
>https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-flare-x5-128gb-2-x-64gb-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cas-latency-cl34-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820374760
nevermind, you're in luck since they're already available

>>106202807
It's usually just a few years which go by faster and faster and faster. Besides I never end up really playing the game. I still haven't beaten rdr2 although I did get to john marston. I have witcher 3 and still haven't played it. I play morrowind with mods, mount and blade, and day z most of the time. Sometimes dota 2. I got through the tutorial of cyberpunk and stopped playing. Got to the state capital of last of us and stopped playing.

>>106202818
Nice. There seems to be a CL32 potentially as well:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BDm2FT/gskill-flare-x5-128-gb-2-x-64-gb-ddr5-6000-cl32-memory-f5-6000j3244g64gx2-fx5
But it's not really found anywhere yet

>>106202621
The ones for the 4080 Super were set too low, fans staring on & off @ idle.

>>106202837
In gta 5 I got to trevor and stopped playing. I got to the trailer park in san andreas where there is a mexican girlfriend mission and stopped playing. Videogames just aren't worth paying a bunch of money for. I never beat doom 2016.

>>106202846
yeah, that's the newer 1.40v bin
since its already listed on their site, it shouldn't take more than a few weeks to be in stores

>>106202837
>>106202862
I haven't played w3, rdr2, cyberpiss, shit I have never played gta5 except for starting it up not long ago, skyrim
I don't own them either
almost not played anything in all actuality
wanna play DeSR and BB maybe something idk

>>106202659
They could also give us 4 channels with single slot, but of course that would make TR less attractive

is there any 9070 xt model I should buy or avoid?
thinking about powercolor hellhound or red devil

>>106202906
Rdr2 is way better than gta 5. But it takes forever for it to pick up and stat getting good

>>106202965
I have a hellhound and it's good. I got a microcenter warranty so I can kill the card and return it for store credit in 2 years and all my money back though

>>106202607
>>106202648
>what is silicon lottery
some cards will hit it but not all

>>106202607
>>106202990
Yeah my 9800X3D can do 6400mhz while a lot of shit anons here tap out at 6000mhz.

>>106202994
most are overprovisioned to do 6200mhz thats why 6000mhz is the justwerks speed
6400mhz is less common but largely still doable
6600mhz and faster are only doable on unicorns

Howdy. Got any advice on cheap but quality sound cards? With a hda front panel connector

>>106202990
Doesn't excuse those GPUs for automatically boosting past the stability point (stock behavior).

>>106202994
You're not describing the stock board & IMC behavior.
Most AM5 boards drop the UCLK down to 1/2 MEMCLK if the EXPO frequency exceeds 6000MT/s.

Is there some PSU I should rather buy than this?

>>106202990
That has nothing to do with silicon lottery, it should NOT boost over the max rated boost clock in the first place. It's basically unintentionally self-overclocking itself by a huge amount. Thankfully it's fixable by adjusting a slider in the ayymd driver.

>>106203067
>it should NOT boost over the max rated boost clock in the first place
All of these GPUs (GeForce, Radeon, & Arc) don't have a strict upper limit for the stock boost clocks; these chips are supposed to opportunistically boost as high as they can.
It shouldn't boost high enough to cause instabilities, though.

Even Arc B580's GPU is boosting past 2.8GHz when its average expected gaming boost clock is reported to be in the 2600s.

>>106203039
>Doesn't excuse those GPUs for automatically boosting past the stability point (stock behavior).
ESL

>>106203067
Stupid cunt you lack comprehension reading chains.

>>106203128
>>106203133
Der Bauer shares a disclaimer that those Time Spy OC results don't guarantee daily stability.
You're the ESL who's misrepresenting that chart.

>>106203133
sorry for not meeting your expectations
doesn't excuse the fact that AMDjeets released a fucked bios/drivers and did not even catch this issue because *some chips happen not to crash at those incorrect clocks so it must be fine*

>>106203120
Rtx3080 and 3090s were boosting way too high at launch and crashing. Nvidia fixed it quickly with a driver limit to override the stock vbios behaviour so I don't see why AMD couldn't do the same
>>106202990
Der8auer said that 3360mhz oc wasn't stable and was just there to showcase max theoretical performance

>>106203169
oh by the way this might be the cause of those huge intermittent 400W+ power spikes these GPUs have

Is it over? XMP was off and i got the same result with a single stick too, these results have nothing to do with the CPU right?

Should I buy Speakers? Which ones? How much?

>>106203193
Did you check each memory stick individually? If none of the memory sticks can pass that test at stock settings, you can't completely rule out the CPU being problematic.
If you've set a custom CPU undervolt or OC, revert it to default when you run memory tests (unless you're sure it's stable).
The CPU is the part that checks for errors; you need to be sure the CPU is stable for these tests.

>>106203193
Is this thread multi threaded? Having all errors on the same core points to it being a problematic CPU core

>>106202329
bruh

i really would not

PNY has had an awful reputation for these cards

I'm absolutely dying from waitfagging for the Intel ARC B770. In my area, a retailer is selling new, bulk unsold stock of the 3080 12gb for 388 euros. I'm currently on an RTX 3060 driving a 3440x1440 monitor on a mixed-use system for video editing and gaming. I would love to use the dual encoders on the B770, but the 3080 12gb is out now. What do? Buy the 3080 now or keep waitfagging until B770 drops in Q4?

>>106203240
Just buy an edifier 1280 variant or edifier mr4. If no space, creative pebbles if really necessary .

I have the 1280s and really enjoy them

volumes

Is a 650W PSU enough, or is that a dumb idea?

I need to get a new mouse boys. I was using deathadders for years, and then a rival 300 for the last 7 or so. Now that I'm back in the mice game I see these brands Pulsar, Lamzu, ATK, etc? What mouse would I be happy with considering the other mice I've used in the past?
Thanks

>>106203384
B770 won't be happening, just like the 9080 XT fan fiction.
These companies usually release their best & most profitable gaming GPUs first.
Refresh halo cards like the 3090 Ti were using a better-binned variant of an existing GPU.
Battlemage GPU design is extremely space inefficient; the B580's die size is slightly larger than a 5070.

A theoretical B770's chip might be larger than the 5080's, and Intel can only charge $500 at best, given the competition.

>>106203470
Whats the rest of the build?

>>106203482
you can use https://www.eloshapes.com/ to find a mouse with a familiar shape if you want to stay that way. I personally recommend Endgame Gear mice

>>106203486
An R5 9600x and a yet to be determined GPU with a yet to be determined upgrade path.

>>106203384
Trump just told Intel to fire their CEO and is trying to force TSMC to buy 49% of it, they got way bigger issues than some unreleased pipe dream card bro.

Get the 3080

AMS sars, we have a response to the 4090 yet?

>>106203530
what a gorgeous block

>>106203470
I got away with it (9700x + 9070xt)
If you have intel then good luck with that lol

>>106203539
the Germans make good stuff.
>led gayness
I like single colors, fite me

>>106203047
The newer model of that item.

my 4090 stopped working

>>106203308
The CPU light on the motherboard always lights up when i start the pc and many times i need to do many resets just so i can get it to boot.

>>106203193
Is this stock CPU with xmp? I had an issue where my CPU was causing my ram to fail with xmp. It was my 3700x.(I also had bad ram the first time so this was such terrible thing to diagnose). I had to return it for another 3700x. I would see errors in Windows event viewer, I can't remember what they were though but it was many of them. It could be worth a try, I know some stores like microcenter can loan CPUs for cheap, usually for bios updates if you wanted to check?

Let's say I have:
- 1 CPU;
- 2 motherboards of the same model, one of them was used in conjunction with that CPU for 1.5 years, another one is brand new;
- 3 different kits of RAM (2 of them are in mobo's QVL list).

System refuses to post every time there's more than one stick installed, on both mobos. Even more, every time it's DIMM B slot (it is two slot 1DPC motherboard model) that causes trouble. Does this mean the CPU's memory controller is faulty (because it's the only thing that didn't change in the equation)?

PC working again, it really was the Mobo with a major fallout, even though it looked just as new, no signs from outside.
Guess my PSU saved me from frying the other components by not powering on at all when CPU power cable was connected.

>>106203819
Yeah that's extensive testing, and barring ludicrously bad luck of all your components having issues, I'm going to start blaming the CPU

Is this a good build for 1750€ (Portugal)?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3,8/5,5 GHz
Motherboard: B840 WIFI, AMD, AM5, B840, 4DDR5, USB TYPE C, WIFI, AURA, ATX
Tower: PCVIP MH10
Power Supply: GAMING 850W PCIE 5.0 80 Plus Gold Full Modular A
Cooling: ARGB 240MM Liquid
Storage: 1 TB SSD Kingston NV2 PCIe NVMe Gen 4.0
RAM: 32 GB 2x16 GB DDR5 6000 MHz
GPU: RADEON RX9070 OC 16 GB

This is a pre-build btw, would I save ~200€ if I built it myself?

Is the 'optiplex special' (an optiplex with an 8th gen intel with a 3060 ti stuck in it) still the best way to build a budget computer?

>>106203907
>This is a pre-build btw, would I save ~200€ if I built it myself?
put the part in pcpart picker and see for yourself?

>>106203907
FOR A RYZEN BUILD YOU SHOULD HEAD FOR A B850 MOTHERBOARD idk about the tower go for the lian li 207 if its cheaper in your region , no you dont need a liquid cooler with that cpu , aim for thermalright phantom spirit 120 or pretor 130 , (pretor is better) do your best to find a good deal for an XT card

>>106203928
You could also maybe be on the look on eBay for a used or refurbished victus 15l when they go on sale for 180-210. Sold by vipoutlet, under 2 different listings, Walmarts refurb company. They come with some rx 6400 that sells for $100. You then buy something like a 4060/3060ti/Intel equivalent and you're good for around $300 it does have a small PSU so those are the limits basically. And you're upgrade locked for the most part.

>>106203907
THUS PREBUILTS USE SHITTY MOBOS LOOK UP asus tuf b850m gaming plus wifi its offers good performance and fairly priced , go for kioxia pro ssd , the only reason why it is cheaper than other ssds its because of its TBW ,but since you are a gamer you will never ever be filling that within 5 to 10 years so no worries

I've recently found Fractal Design Celsius S36 AIO in poor shape: dirty, water's all dried up, no coolers whatsoever. Is it worth the trouble to restore the thing, and would it be a noticeable upgrade over my Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 on Ryzen 5700X3D CPU?

>>106203907
You can build a better computer with a 9070XT instead of a 9070 for less money if you build it yourself

>>106203928
That's extreme poorfag shit like you got the optiplex from goodwill or Ewaste center if you spent money you got scammed

Hi I'm only here because my external HDD does those sudden and loud tck-tck ticking and tapping noises when I am using it like backing up my shit en masse. I am told this sort of thing is normal from a functioning HDD. I came here to /g/ to see if there were any HDD threads up but there weren't so I figured I'd come here to post about it since PC building involves HDDs sometimes. Do you guys have loud as fuck HDDs when they work? How do you cope with the sound or the anxiety it may or may not cause?

How do convince people that they don't need 750-850 PSU on i5/R5 + x060 class GPU kind of rig?

>>106204087
If they had a wall meter they would know.

>>106203997
no point, it's just scrap metal at this point.
this is why companies should just stay in their lane.
fractal excels at making cases and that is all that they should be doing.

>>106204087
How much power does that kind if rig need? 750w would make sense if I'm adding a mi50 to play around with llms though right?

>>106204081
I used to. They were overpowered by the sound of my fans, but you can still hear them if you're close enough.

>>106202642
Does this mean that I won't even be able to play at 120 fps with my new gaming PC?

i live in indonesia
between
Gskill Ripjaws S5 Black DDR5 PC41600 5200MHz 48GB (2x24GB) 40-40-40-83 - F5-5200J4040A24GX2-RS5K

and

Gskill Ripjaws M5 RGB White DDR5 PC41600 5200MHz 48GB (2x24GB) 40-40-40-83 - F5-5200J4040A24GX2-RM5RW

which one is better
6000CL30 dont exist in 2x24 in here

>>106204519
Both garbage, get whichever's cheaper.

>>106204558
>Both garbage
explain, there is 6000CL30 but in 2x16

>>106204572
It's demonstrated in >>106202759 , and AMD's official CPU review guidelines state 6000MT/s is the performance & stability sweet spot for their DDR5 Ryzen CPUs (because of infinity fabric and memory controller limitations).
AMD even sent compatible 6000MT/s EXPO kits to these hardware reviewers.

AM5 is basically EOL now, right? After the 9950x3d and 9800x3d they're moving onto a different socket?

>>106204689
There is Zen 6 with rumored upgrades to the entire chip (CCD, IOD, & higher FCLK)

>>106204689
no

>>106203928
the optiplex meta has been dead since....12th gen I think
I wouldn't bother

>>106204689
What? No. 10000 series is being prepped
if anything it's mid life

>>106204689
They said they will support until 2027. Given how amazing AM4 is I don't think you should expect to be jettisoned.

>>106204702
>>106204707
>>106204741
>>106204754
Thanks for clarification, I know it's lazy as hell to just get anons to answer so forgive me. I'm trying to plan on when would be the most appropriate time for me to build an AMD machine.

>>106204766
Just remember AMD lie. AM4 was meant to be long dead by now and they released a CPU for it this year.

>AIDA64 Stability test 20 min: 61°C
>Int. CPU VCore Offset: -0.150
>LLC 5 (Medium)
>IA AC 0.01 (10)
>IA DC 0.01 (10)
>PL1 150W 56s
>PL2 180W 28s
>Arctic Freezer 36 ~1200RPM

Well i5-14600K isn't all that hot under AIDA64 stability test after some adjustments. On stock BIOS, it was 77°C. Probably in the winter I will reverse the case to blow hot air under my table, and default the bios.

>DDR4 4*8GB 3600MHz 17-17-17-38 CR=2T
>DRAM V 1.40 GEAR1
>VCCSA 1.25
>VDDQ_CPU 1.25
Seems stable, had to relax timings since it froze under normal use after couple hours, despite passing memtest and AIDA stability test.

I will have to firmware flash-out the dumbfuck GIGABYTE RGB LED out of the GPU at some point. OpenRGB offers temporary solution that resets every windows reboot. Not sure if Gigabyte Center bloatware can disable it permanently.

Going to buy a case for it later but it lives inside this coffee table for now.

Thank you for pointing various things as I was building this, anon. Probably would have made more mistakes without this thread.

>>106204778
5800XT is just a 5800X with a 100MHz higher boost clock out of the box.
7nm manufacturing process has been improved to guarantee that.

I've had my keyboard for almost 10 years and just discovered it has a USB port.
I always thought the second USB connection was for the lights.

>>106202687
shot*

>>106204678
Thx man
So only go for 6000CL30

I plan on joining the /g/train and getting a nice pc for gaming, ai, work, etc. I created a list in pcpartpicker to try and comprehend compatibility.

>CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.99 @ Amazon)
>CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S chromax.black 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.95 @ Amazon)
>Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($169.75 @ Amazon)
>Memory: Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon)
>Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($117.00 @ Amazon)
>Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ Amazon)
>Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ B&H)
>Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.90 @ Amazon)
>Monitor: LG UltraGear 34GS95QE-B 34.0" 3440 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor ($899.99 @ Amazon)
>Total: $2789.55

I considered x870 motherboards but they add to the cost, so are they worthwhile? Also OLED monitors and the 21:9 aspect ratio; how about them? I'd appreciate advice anons

Can someone explain to me the difference between the different am5 chipsets?

>>106205261
Regarding the monitor, I think they're really good with like a 1800 to 2000r curve. I have an IPS 21:9 and can't go back, especially for watching movies. Only downside would be if you play some 16:9 locked game for thousands of hours, then you'd probably get worn out pixels after a while. I play a lot of fighting games so I went IPS

>>106205269
What stood out to me was that some have pcie 5 while others only have pcie 4:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am5.html
>>106205274
So from a reliability standpoint ips monitors are better? ips is also signifigantly cheaper than OLED so maybe I'll end up going that route

>>106205305
You can get an LG 34n850nb for like $200-300 secondhand, I haven't looked at anything new. I do really enjoy the OLED monitors but for my autistic gaming habits, I had to go IPS for risk of wearing out pixels due to having the same ui for thousands of hours in the same spot.

But yes reliability will be IPS, OLED is MUCH nicer though and definitely worth it if you're not an autistlike me. I will eventually go all OLED/micro led when it comes out in the future though. My TV is OLED and it's amazing so I get the luxury of choosing my display

>>106205269
the higher tier have more usb ports, pcie lanes, etc.

>>106205261
>Also OLED monitors and the 21:9 aspect ratio; how about them?
you can get a 4k 32" for the same price
or you can get a 42" on sale for even cheaper and you can run custom ultrawide res on it too
seems expensive

Why did they get rid of the 5800x3d?

>>106205400
because it's outdated?

>>106205400
to force (specifically) you to upgrade to the AM5 platform

>>106205400
Correct me if I'm wrong but it's still a top tier CPU, especially if you need to upgrade your am4 system. Maybe not at 1080 but definitely at 1440 and 4k

>>106202478
I just don't really care Steve.

>>106202478
Watching the video dedicated to that chink who died made me finally realize that he's a retarded narcissist and a faggot.

is $799 a good price for the Radeon RX 9070 XT or should I wait until the price drops? Will it drop?

>>106205400
5800x3d only existed because there were enough bad Epyc Milan server chips.

>>106205436
yep it's still insanely good, if you have one there is no reason to upgrade right now. maybe when the zen 6 x3d chips come out in a few years you should probably look to replacing it.

>>106205508
It'll also hold it's resell value as the last best gaming CPU for the platform. I had half a thought of selling mine to upgrade to am5 because of this but figured I'm good until am6

>>106205491
>Will it drop?
In burgerstan? Nevah

>>106205491
thats the current price for nitro/taichi and those are the best ones.

>>106205491
>Me when I try to use path tracing on my 9070xt
>Also me when I realize it's just another generation of knockoff Nvidia card -$50

>>106205400
It was one of those where you had to jump in immediately. Where you just "knew". You realized way too late if you're sad about it now.

>>106205523
idk if i would suggest adopting the first generation of a new platform, the first am5 generation was full of problems, overpriced and now literally forgotten and mogged by the 9000 series of amd cpus.

>>106205261
>>CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S chromax.black 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Absolute meme-tier air-cooler for that 9800X3D with high heat density.
If you want a Noctua cooler, go full-retard for the NH-D15 G2 get a different brand of air cooler.

>>106205610
Yeah you're right. I almost forgot about the am4 problems too when zen 3 came out. Hoping its not too bad this time around

>>106204081

not anymore those are broken only quiet ones
it is theoretically possible to play audio over platter reader head motor assembly

>>106205618
The x3ds benefit from liquid cooling, it's like having the perfect undervolt for em.

>>106205261
>>Memory: Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon)
This is another meme component; there are no "Pro Overclocking" Crucial/Micron DDR5 chips.
Any of these memory kits is better because they've got SK Hynix's DDR5 chip which is preferred by memory OCers.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cCKscf/silicon-power-value-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdeae
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PxTZxr/klevv-bolt-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-kd5agua80-60a300h

I'd get the T-Create, it has a better heatspreader than the Silicon Power's Value Gaming kit.

Do you keep all of the boxes when you buy PC parts? I don't know why but I always have a mental block of throwing away boxes for expensive things.

Thoughts on this NAS build for a home media server?
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/xnfPxr
Not mine, but identical usecase. Was going to copy most of it, but maybe size the case down from the Fractal 804 to the 304 (can't imagine a realistic scenario where I'd need 10 drive bays instead of just 6 with large drives), and bump the CPU if I need to transcode or run some one-off apps. Don't plan on running RAID since I'm not using it for backup, just storage, and could always redownload shit if I need to.

>>106205676
Keep the boxes for major components that you may either want to sell or need to RMA in the future.
Video card, motherboard, CPU, PSU, and monitor boxes are the ones I'd keep.
I've sold my CPU & motherboard recently, it was easy to find a buyer since I've kept all the original packaging.
Sold my video card last year, which was also easy to sell because I kept the original box (and shipping packaging).

how will I mount an additional fan to my Intel x520-DA1 network card?

Theres the little adapter on the bottom blocking the way and I was planning on getting a 3d printed mount solution but need space

>>106205701
Seems reasonable, I'll do that. I'm also keeping my case's box because my cat likes to hang out in it.

>>106205676
always keep the cpu box because when you resell it or return it you dont want to dmg the thing

I've had this 27" 1440p monitor for about a month now and it still feels too big. I sit about a 12" away from my monitor because my eyesight isn't great. Does it get better with time or should I just try and go back to a 24" one? Feels like after a month I should have gotten used to it

>I sit about a 12" away from my monitor
how small is your desk lol

u guys my 9800x3d and 9070xt is at 32 celsius while just idle, did i do something wrong?

>>106206169
thats normal, whats the problem? thats one step above room temp. Assuming its not hot where you live. My 9950x3d idles at ~41degrees with a arctic freezer III 360 aio.

>>106206169
fuck you man

>>106206008
After a month? Yeah usually people get used to the size after a week or 2. I sit 2-3 feet away at least so you're definitely too close

>>106206184
I live in nevada, that’s why I’m a bit worried
>>106206190
what did I do?

>>106206225
doesn't count when you have the AC on or if your pc has only been on for 5 mins on jackass

>>106206169
whats edge temp vs hotspot temp?

single monitor idle power = 20w
duel monitor idle power = 80w
you gotta love amd

>>106204806
>IA AC 0.01 (10)
>IA DC 0.01 (10)
you should at least set IA DC to the "proper" value since it's necessary for accurate power monitoring
the board should be able to do that on auto
IA AC can be left at 0.01 if it works for you
>Seems stable, had to relax timings since it froze under normal use after couple hours
i would recommend disabling DDR power down mode to prevent any idle crashes, since that's a whole different set of timings to tune
>>106206268
7900 XTX?

>>106206331
7900XTX idles at 14w with multi monitor >>106206326

>>106205274
>>106205360
>>106205618
>>106205661
>>106205563
Thanks for the advice /g/anons! I had never considered water-cooling as an inexpensive option before. I probably will opt for an ips monitor now after hearing your points.

>>106206268
Learn what ASPM does please. You're the 4th anon who complained about high SSD temps or some bullshit related to it.

>>106206331
7900xt
driver version = 25.5.1
not going to update because latest version doesn't show me my metrics for cpu temp for some retarded reason

>>106206360
I feel like a bunch of people on /g/ have fucked up BIOS settings because they're giga noobs on PC that don't know anything but XMP.

>>106206366
ok sorry, you bought the buggy chiplet beta test card
maybe try fiddling with reduced blanking in CRU

>>106206380
This what happens when a whole generation is raised on Intel and Nvidia.

I’ve been gradually swapping out parts, still haven’t needed a new case in over a decade. The 6700xt is pretty heavy in it but it’s just fine with some room to spare, I guess it depends how much larger gpus get but I’ll be able to get am5 chip and MB at some point. Just swapped out one of the original fans that died. Man I love PC gaming.

>>106206392
its 12w here >>106206326

you just cant read or comprehend

>>106206412
I'm probably going to keep my ap201 forever

If you're on an AMD mobo and noticed your system stutters a lot when gaming, check for a BIOS update that mentions a TPM update. IDK what MS did to Windows but it stutters a lot until the TPM is updated.

>>106206448
That’s a big one so probably won’t need anything bigger, I have the h510 nzxt I love this bitch

Are these good?

>>106206360
>>106206380
my bios doesn't even have option for """ASPM"""

>>106206167
Someone get this poor man some glasses.

>>106206528
It's smaller than the h510 thougheve (Idk if you were implying it's bigger)

>>106206567
that's yekindar. he says he can no longer play normally because it would ruin his "skill" (he's shit now)

>>106206539
has good timings for DDR4
but it depends on what you want them for

>>106206539
yes its rgb

>>106206556
It's called different names bro. Just like Core Tuning Level 2 for AMD.

>>106206685
>like you'll find non-rgb now

>>106206556
Impossible. My $60 B450 board has it. Are you telling me your motherboard is cheaper and shittier than this?

>>106206703
It's /g/. People here overspend on Nvidia gpu just to cheap out on psu,mobo,etc.

>>106206703
it's fine i fixed the issue
just turning on freesync solved the issue
currently using a tv as a monitor right now with a hdmi and apparently it can mess with things when your second display is using display port

12700k retired, 9950x3d acquired. Next? We grab a 5090 and put the whole thing in a loop.

i'm suck at wiring. can i choose pre-assemble option when i buy my machine

>>106206785
for me its the most fun part
i sometimes take whole PC apart and re cable manage everything just so i can make things 5% neater

>>106206785

good idea buy or have buddy buy pre-assemble that runs

>>106205305
So assuming I want one 5.0 for an ssd and one 4.0 ssd, without slowing down anything else, which one should I go for?
One of X870E, X870, X670E, X670, B650E?
>>106205349
I just want enough usbs for tge typical stuff, keyboard, mouse, mic, etc. I don't know how many pcie lanes I need.

Enabling secure boot and tpm for bf6 made me look into my security settings and I realized I had bitlocker encrypted on my drives which are only for gaming, and core isolation was on. I unencrypted my drives and turned off CI and noticed a significant bump in my drive speeds and a subtle amount of CPU performance increase

>>106206891
And what the fuck are those boards like b650-s or x870-s?

>>106206726
Poorfag nvidiots ITT spend their whole savings on GeForce cards so they can larp that they are rich in /pcbg/. A couple threads ago some of them literally said they skipped meals and ate insta noodles for their gpu. Radeon chads don't have to go broke paying reasonable AMD prices.

>>106206808
>neater
I always struggle with having cables either too short or too long. Sucks.

>>106206916
I make decent enough money that I should be able to buy something after a month of putting aside money from saving but man does it suck being a gunfag, carfag, modelfag on top of it
>I want to save up to buy a new monitor, I should be able to do that in about a mon- oh shit that 100 dollar adapter I need for my thermal + the 300 dollar mount are finally back in stock

dealing with long cables is easy, it's the shorter fuckers that are annoying to deal with. luckily that isn't a problem in most cases.

>>106206994
meant for >>106206945

nvme 120mm aio

just saw that drama nexus is at it again

>>106206169
My 9800x3d idles around 45 with an air cooler. I thought that was normal.

my 5800x3d idles at 30c
cooler = Thermalright Frost Spirit 140 V3

>>106207022
yep should be kino. hopefully gets enough bux to do the full movie

>>106202501

next time thought ecc-like feature on ddr5 is

>>106203047

12M might have more safety features or rm just does not advertise those

>>106203240

5.25" dual cone 4ohm full band maybe if you like these things

>>106202914

did you buy when intel had three channel mobos?
i did not even know until recently

just bought a 9800xrd
I want to use an air cooler, is the dark rock pro 5 any good? I hear it has problems making contact with AM5.
Thermalright still the best? I am mainly concerned about noise levels and RAM clearance

>>106203193

maybe rma cpu they remap it or new one i do not know these things

>>106203470

theres like peak power and you put 130 to 200 % to that 4chan all day 90W

>>106203819

no maybe with one stick disable optimisations and return defaults or even lower then add another stick

>>106204087

please dont they took famous power supply calculator site down its that bad

>>106205740

buy small i mean tiny fan and hotglue to alu?

>>106206008

why monitor if you are blind 720p is nice then scale in os 1.3 etc

>>106206916
kek, based anon exposes Njudean goyslaves. Did you suckers cut off your foreskins too? i hear it ups your raytracing fps.
>>106206994
this, i had plenty of trouble assembling my rig because i refused to use the extra-adaptor for my psu's power cable that came with the Antec flux pro, i insisted upon a trad mounting and then have to deal with cables that aren't quite long enough to comfortably connect to components in the case.

>>106207022
exposing the kikery of Njudea is bad now? simp more goy, why bootlick a megacorp that holds you in such contempt, deservedly so in your case admittedly.

>>106207163
>>106207092

me here >>106206184
i just feel i should add, idle for me, is having 2 browsers up with youtube playing in one, Unnamed Space idle game running, and a couple of steam chat groups. I guess the arctic freezer does well, it also helps that the 9950x3d just breezes through alot of normal processing stuff and remains low-temp in comparison.

>>106206008
you're being retarded, all conventional knowledge on sight-cripples like you is that the larger and higher-fps the monitor is, the better it is for you to see.

Go get a 1440p ultrawide, i'd say 4k, but navigating Steam on a 4k monitor is a hell i would not wish upon you.

>>106203907

look nv2 fail rates othervise specs

>>106206169

my cpu package says 36C rx480 says 45C but you guess whats in tabs

why is choosing a pc tower so fucking difficult bros

having a hard time choosing between a 7800x3d and 9700x, supposedly they're nearly equal when 9700x is paired with 6400 ram. but schizos are getting to me with that "better 1% lows makes the x3d feel smoother" shit
price difference i can live with
definitely can't afford the 9800x3d though

>>106207773
am5 all day
no question

SK Hynix P51's are $90 off on Amazon rn, just got one for $229

>>106207817
yeah but which one
retard

How much the Noctua AiO will cost? I bet on atleast $250

>>106207773
x3d is a lot faster in games, its not even close

AMoggeD

>>106206891
Look at the specs for each and decide how much you want. The AMD website has everything you need to know.

Are pny 5070 ti cards really that bad?

>>106208311
No, the only complaint is a potential fan noise. Otherwise, they are solid. Pny has decent customer service so you can always rma down the line if needed

>>106206008
24'' is the ideal monitor size. 27'' is too big. gaming on monitors is retarded. the tech is many years behind OLED tv tech and anyone who has ever played on a 65'' OLED or bigger will never go back

>>106208388
27 is not big lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p7G2FT/msi-pro-b850m-p-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b850m-p-wifi

Is this a good enough mobo for a 9800x3d, or is it worth dropping another $70 on a mortar or tuf?

>>106208360
Good I only ended up getting the card because it was only $50 more than a 9070 xt and for my purposes slightly better

>>106208311
nah. nothing some zip ties and 120mm fans can't fix

>>106208506
Hope you have no issues! Mine arrives Thursday.

I think my primary PCIE slot is toast on my computer. Tried 3 different GPUs which required 3, 2, 1 power plugs. No matter what GPU was in, PC failed to boot up. Remove the GPU and PC boots no problem.
What a pain in the fucking ass. Basically a full rebuild as a result. I hate building computers.

What is the equivalent of Asus AP201 case but in ATX? I mean with every panel being MESH MESH MESH?

>>106208565
did you manhandle your pcie slot or what

>>106206331
>set IA DC to the "proper" value since it's necessary for accurate power monitoring
After I've done tuning everything and confirmed the power consumption, it can be set to 0.01 me thinks.
>disabling DDR power down mode to prevent any idle crashes
Oh I'll look into this, thanks!

>>106208565
My $180 PCIe sound card with a (great) built in headphone amp just got fried a few months ago and I still have no idea why, it literally started burning. The graphics card in the other slot no longer detects my TV so I can't watch any content on it.
Hope that helps

>>106208616
>After I've done tuning everything and confirmed the power consumption
have you confirmed power consumption at the wall? what i'm saying is that inaccurate DC LL affects your power monitoring in tools like hwinfo
DC LL doesn't affect voltage requests or ACTUAL power consumption, only REPORTED power consumption with monitoring software
AC LL is what gives you an undervolt, you can do as you wish with AC LL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slwXKUwmnE
i think this is the one (but it's almost 2 hours, good luck)
>Oh I'll look into this, thanks!
hopefully gigabyte put the option in the BIOS
i'm not saying this is why your system froze but if you have power down enabled you have to tune timings like tXP, tCKE, etc, completely unnecessary on a desktop system

>>106208632
damn, seems like your parts were killed by a chinesium board or psu

How is NVIDIA driver overhead still a thing 4 years later?

>>106208605
Likely at some point when removing a GPU. Not much space with my giant fucking heatsink and massive GPU. GPU latch got fucked so I had to break it further so the GPU would reseat. My guess is, without being firmly latched, when I'd move my PC the card would shift in the slot since it was not longer firmly held in place and likely just wore something down over time.

>>106208707
they would have to rewrite the driver from scratch to fix it

>>106208707
probably designed this way to save 20mm2 of silicon die area

Installed a Liquid Freezer III Pro 360
Pretty easy

My shitposting temps have never been lower lol
25.1C ~= 77F

Does 500 fps on minecraft even matter when my monitor only goes to 240hz?

>>106208832
still not sold on aios

what's a good AMD GPU for 5700x3D? (gayme on 1080p with second low-res monitor for other stuff)

>>106209262
9060XT 16gb will max most games at 1080p

>>106209324
NTA but how does it perform for 1440p? Been eyeing it for a while for a new build

>>106209365
I'd probably get a 9070 or 9070XT for 1440p, a 9060XT will probably run most games near max @ 60 FPS, but not consistently unless you use FSR upscaling

Anyone own the MSI 5090 32GB SUPRIM LIQUID ?

>>106207316
Yes, I actually still have a build with i7 920, which is triple channel

>>106209432
yes

>>106209402
Thanks for the clear answer, I kept getting mixed reports from my research so I wasn't sure.
I can live with not running games above medium/high settings, and don't really play recent AAA games much to begin with. But I'll see if I can swap some parts around to soften the jump in price a bit.

>>106209475
thought?

>>106209504
very cool and quiet (doesn’t go over 55-60c while gaming)

>>106209512
thanks

is arc b580 viable or should i just go with ayymd equivalent
>go nvi-
only if i can score a used one for cheap as chips, i am not going to fund his jacket

I finally figured out how to stop my 4080 Super from crashing randomly all the time. I disabled REBAR in the BIOS and it is running flawlessly again. I even put my overclock back on. Canceled the order for a 5080 to replace it. This has been like one month dealing with this shit I am stoked.

>>106209876
You shouldn't need to disable it in BIOS, the App's normal settings already disables it by default unless a game is whitelisted.

I've been trying to undervolt my 7800x3d by reducing its SOC voltage (because i heard that the default 1.3V when using expo is le bad), PBO is on auto.
set it to 1.19V - bsod upon starting windows. 1.22V - same thing
should i try it with 1.25V or just give up and use the default value?

>>106209876
Weird, but I'm glad you figured it out. Random crashes are the worst.

>>106210263
how much soc is needed depends on your exact ram kit configuration and cpu memory controller quality

kind of messed up

Trying to get my PC to about $4000 AUD worth.

So far can only get it to $3800. Anything else I should throw in there?

>>106202252 (OP)
LSFG with Dual GPU.

Is SLI/Crossfire back?

>>106210483
SLI/Crossfire implies both GPUs are doing the same process task but here they aren't. What you're seeing instead is hybrid graphics which has been a thing since laptops/Intel quicksync.

>>106210469
more drives

when are hdr true black 500 4k oleds coming out?
they just came out with 1440p models but no word for 4k

>>106210516
I could but I only add drives if they have a specialised purpose- gaming/photos/videos etc. Upgrading my Boot to double as my second gaming drive- at which point it'll have enough space to store my docs/4chan pics/music. I have space for another drive, but what would I shove into it?

>>106210345
i've got ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 6000 mhz 30(CL)-40-40

>>106210076
It's not completely disabled unless you do it at BIOS level, the driver level just disables it for specific programs but it's still active. My benchmark scores have stayed the same with and without it disabled so I'm not even losing performance.

>>106210544
2x32gb or 2x16gb

>>106210469
how the fuck should we know?
post your build nigger

>>106210510
Technicalities aside, are we gonna be seeing a lot more of this- to the point Jensen tries to cash in.

>>106210594
2x16

New machine doesn't post anymore after about two weeks of no issues.
I think I've swapped about every component by now including cmos battery.
I feel like the biggest retard. Can't be the new CPU that was running normal temps all week can it? because I have no second AM5 to test

>>106210644
try 1.25v then

>>106210669
thanks fren

>>106210665
anon, bad parts tend to die in the first few weeks so you got unlucky
it can be anything in your system like cpu, motherboard or psu
also, what do you mean by doesn't post anymore?

>>106210641
It's baked into Windows and it's vendor agnostic, its up to the app to support it. Chrome supports it for example but your game obviously won't.

>>106210731
under no configuration does it reach bios anymore. After power on all fans spin, it does ram training like it should, and then the boot LED goes on and stays on. As far I can tell nothing happens from there

>>106210819
so there's no display out, meaning your gpu is shot? have you tried swapping to the igpu and seeing whether your pc is still responsive?

is 9600x enough for gaming?
because I can see my old 2600x bottleneck gpu in some games that were release around the same time
It even struggle with TF2 because it so heavily relies on single core performance

>>106210832
I have an f-series so no igpu (genius move to save some money). I have tried two different cards in different slots though.
First AM5 system though so
>I have no extra ram
(I tried both sticks in different slots though)
>I have no extra CPU
>I have no extra board to swap
Best case scenario I messed up my bios somehow. I will try to flash it with the latest version. After that idk

>>106210936
What's your board? Asrock?

>>106210936
do you have a spare displayport cable? you could try it in case its a bad cable

>>106211061
Yes b850 Livemixer
>>106211143
cable and monitor work fine. I use them on my old PC rn

>>106211173
Your CPU is cooked. Asscock boards have been frying AMD CPus for months.

>>106211194
if his cpu was cooked, he wouldn't pass the ram training phase on bootup at all.
boot led being lit rules that out

>>106208605
Wake up, slot in GPU one last time before going to buy new mobo. Boots up without issue.
Gotta be a loose connection because the latch is busted and doesn't hold itnfirmly in place.

Thinking about buying a moba on Ebay. How to ensure it is new?

And if it is used, can I at least squeeze 5 more years out of it?

AMD should bring back Ruby. Make it the Radeon AI assistant or something.

holy fuck i hate how big heat sinks are these days. got the phantom spirit evo but the size of it just makes me want to go aio

lenovo legion r24e, aoc 24 24g42e or asus tuf gaming vg249q3a

>mobo comes with three extra pcie x16 slots
What the fuck do I do with these

>>106211451
>Thinking about buying a moba on Ebay. How to ensure it is new?
Use the "new" product filter, buy the board from a seller with good reputation that posts real product images.

>And if it is used, can I at least squeeze 5 more years out of it?
Check real product images showing the condition of the board, especially the CPU socket.
Don't buy used boards that are missing the socket pin cover.
As long as the board doesn't have missing components or damaged pins, you can usually use it for longer than 5 years.

>>106210665
If you tried booting with a single memory module in A2 (testing both sticks) I think you're fucked.
You are not retarded btw, seems like you've troubleshooted the issue just fine.
Did you update that board BIOS to the latest version? (minimum 3.25).
If you installed that CPU while the board was in an older version, the CPU's most likely cooked.
Hope you didn't buy a tray 7500F.

>>106211669
I mean you chose that board. You paid for those slots.
You can use it for a wifi card if you don't have onboard wifi.
Adapter cards if you are in dire need of more nvme or pcei?
A sound card?
No idea. Bit useless if you ask me

>>106211716
It was the absolute cheapest board with three nvme slots

>>106211705
Manual says B2 slot with one stick. I tried both there.
flashing new bios as we speak. But it's a new board I think the version was fairly recent. Also I ran the auto update thing if I remember correctly.
>Hope you didn't buy a tray 7500F
that's exactly what I bought. Most bang for your buck amite :)

>>106211669
no such mobos for am5, they might be physically x16, but electrically they will probably have x2 or x4 lanes

>>106211779
>that's exactly what I bought. Most bang for your buck amite
It's meant for OEMs; AMD won't send you a replacement 7500F if that CPU is cooked.
GL.
If you can enter the BIOS afterwards, set manual TDC & EDC limits.
And track the SOC voltage, degraded ones will need more than 1.25V to run the basic 6000MT/s CL30 EXPO setting.

>>106211705
So in short grab

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315417338333
Over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/205656004685

>But why not [insert expensive AM4 Moba]
Want to stay on AM4. Just got my 5800x3d and shit happened along the way.

>>106211823
If you're paying over $200 for AM4 boards, you might as well buy them from large retailers.

youre better off saving your cash until you can afford actually good parts than desperately putting together a machine of mid-low range parts that are already out dated to boot. just save up

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>>106211350
Probably, but I had one that, due to clearance issues, never fully latched. It lasted for years like that. Maybe try some air duster in the slot if it fails again to see if some garbage got stuck in there.

>>106211516
Go open loop.

>>106211705
>Use the "new" product filter
Shit advice, you should feel bad.
It's ebay, if they try to give you a board with issues in the end you'll get your money back, probably get to keep the board too.
The "no returns" disclaimer is worth nothing, you can ignore it like the signs in parking lots.

>>106212237
You're the one suggesting that the guy waste his time combing through unfiltered product search results.
It's not worth dealing with retard sellers who can't properly label the condition of the product they're offering.

>>106211894
I could. It's not like I don't have the money.

Just choose not to cause I want to get the most use of my current CPU before moving over (likely around AM6-7). And when I say most use I mean I can tell it is dying.

>>106212043
I did take a look in the slot and there was a small piece of white something. Took a TolthPick to it and cleared that out. It was maybe the size of a pinhead. Maybe that had something to do with it..