Thread 106219557

Is there a point in having a cd/dvd drive on your computer these days?

>>106219557 (OP)
yeah

>>106219557 (OP)
yes

>>106219557 (OP)
of course

>>106219557 (OP)
if you get the right bluray drive it can do both of those and you can backup movies/games

>>106219557 (OP)
Nah...but I keep DVD burner in storage just in case.

>>106219557 (OP)
yes, for consuming optical media retard

>>106219608
>>106219594
>>106219591
>>106219584
>>106219573
Can't you just use an .iso reader like DaemonTools?

Burning CDs with some tunes for the ride. After you're sick of hearing the same songs over and over again, just put it in a CD case and leave it somewhere for whoever is brave/retarded enough to play it.

>>106219557 (OP)
Yes because my pcie wifi card still comes with a cd for driver

External device you can plug into a USB port.

>not backing up all your shit in the incoming dark age of censorship

BDs are supposed to last 20 years or so, should be enough and hopefully survive ww3

>>106219557 (OP)
yeah for ripping CDs

>>106219638
I'd rather keep the discs on my shelf than .isos on my drive.

>>106219557 (OP)
>these days
Is it 2008?

>>106219557 (OP)
they're handy for ripping your CD, DVD and BD collection.
some hardware drivers still come on CDs, as one anon pointed out.

Yes I keep an external usb cd/dvd writer mostly for ripping cd's sometimes dvd

>>106219647
>put music on phone
>plug phone into car stereo via tapedeck adapter, headphone aux, or bluetooth (depending on what your stereo can do)
>???
>profit

>>106219557 (OP)
If you asked 5 years ago I'd say no but nowadays, yes

No point. A BD drive covers those just as well.

>>106220724
a BD drive is best, but a CD/DVD drive is better than having none at all

>>106219557 (OP)

it is possible to have no storage computer then remove software dvd and powerdown

>>106219557 (OP)
I will continue to burn CDs and DVDs into the 2030s and Beyond

>>106219557 (OP)
Obviously not, you can't even buy a modern case with one essentially.

How the fuck Blu ray drive still expensive as fuck ?

>>106221545
SONY

>>106221545
The Pioneer BD burner is like $90 no?

can i burn bluray discs with a regular cd? i like how much data you can fit in a bluray disc desu, for archival purposes.

>>106221667
A standard CD/DVD drive can't even read BDs, the laser wavelengths and data impressions are incompatible. Most BD drives contain separate lasers and lenses for reading and burning CDs, DVDs and BDs.

>>106219557 (OP)
Yes, lots of companies, institutes, colleges and all still require CD's

No, in the rare case you need one you can get an external reader

I'd like to own an external BD drive so I can rip BDs and CDs. I probably wouldn't rip many DVDs.

>>106221685
>data layer on the blu-ray so close to the surface
evil

>>106219557 (OP)
In case if my both flash drives with win10 installer dies I shall use dvd drive.

>>106221810
it's an effective nigger repellent. keep your discs in the fucking case

>>106219557 (OP)
It's not a computer to me without a DVD drive. I actually have a Blu-ray drive on mine.

>>106219557 (OP)
of course
>>106219638
how do you think I rip all the physical media I buy?
>daemon tools
linux can mount iso files just fine

>>106221929
windows explorer has been able to mount ISOs for a decade now

No, I bought a cheap cd reader for $10, ripped all of my disks, made triple backups of them, and sold those CDs to some schmucks for $10 each.
My ripping software was struggling because those discs have scratches.

>>106221968
buy an old recordex CD duplicator with 4 or 5 drives in it and get a stack or two of some JVC unlabelled CD-Rs. It'll run you ~$200, but it's so worth compared to burning everything from one disc drive

>>106221939
I haven't used windows for over a decade... TIL

>>106221985
I'm not buying shit, buy an ad.

>>106219557 (OP)
Cases don't even come with 5.25" bays anymore.

>>106219638
>DaemonTools
Nigga, windows has supported native ISO mounting since like Vista. What the fuck are you doing?

>>106222073
vista nor 7 did

>>106219557 (OP)
you should buy cds, anon

>>106219557 (OP)
Ripping album I buy at the merch booths in concerts

>>106221685
right
how expensive is a bluray disc burner thingy? do they go second hand?

>>106222441
Bluray is garbage, why would you even want one?

>>106222472
>why would you want the ability to rip the highest quality video releases distributed to the public?

>>106219594
makeMKV firmware

>>106221929
This faggot buys them and keeps them
Lmfao buy them and return them after ripping

>>106222525
Burner writes, not reads you fucking retard. It's called burning, because that's what happens inside the dye of the disc, it gets burned, chemically changed, irreversibly.

>>106221663
Ones had handle 4KUHD are $200+

>>106222620
It can do either. For me burning is just a bonus.

>>106219557 (OP)
>Is there a point in having a cd/dvd drive on your computer these days?
Yes, there is. However outside of ripping bds with anime, dvds with hentai and cds with music that is absent on torrent, the use of disc drive is limited.

>>106222441
based on my research, about $200+ and yes they are offered second hand and with modified software to read/rewrite 4KUHD. their software must be jail breakable. pioneers are the best, but, often NOT modifiable, whereas Asus and LG are

>>106219557 (OP)
Some things only are available on CD.

Not in your computer
You buy a case without the external bays and just open the side panel and pop one in and let it dangle for the scarce few moments you'll spend using it and then you take it back out

>>106222652
Bonus payment for no value.

>>106222700
>implying I won't ever burn anything

>>106222707
Blurays are garbage.

>>106222722
Whatever man.

>>106222722
This isn't true. Poor fags usually love sucking on sour grapes and in rare moments will shove them up their asses

i still have one, how else are you going to rip music?
>>106219638
you're getting old
>>106219707
nothing ever happens
>>106222693
nah, plus sata hotplugging doesn't always work

I have a Blu ray ROM but the playback and software are ass and janky. I just copy the discs into ISO and watch them like this.

>>106222790
You don't hotswap it
You turn the pc off, plug it in, use it, turn it off when done and take it out
No reason to settle for an inherently shitter case to accommodate for an opaque brick sitting there doing nothing 99.999% of the time

>>106219557 (OP)
I still listen to CDs, mainly ones I burn myself. Also my car OEM cd player can play MP3s

>>106219557 (OP)
they stopped producing those. better let it go, anon.

>>106224650
Even if it's not being made it's not hard or expensive to find one.

>>106222614
>return heavily limited releases
lmao fuck no

>>106219557 (OP)
Yeah, I'm playing Monster Rancher 2 and I need it for summoning monsters.

>>106224661
yes, but at some point it will get ridicuckoulous

>>106219557 (OP)
only if you have optical media already, autist

Wtf is that, a Stanley cup holder?

>>106219557 (OP)
cupholder.js

>>106219557 (OP)
anything that can store data is still useful in 2025

i still use cd-rs to store stuff such as ebooks and roms

>>106219557 (OP)
Not really, there's no real use case when USB sticks and external HDDs are as cheap and reliable as they are. There's the sentimental value I suppose, they can give a nice retro feel and it can be nostalgic to put in a DVD/CD and hear your computer whir up. But sometimes you just gotta move on babyduck.

>>106222441
new bluray drives are 50 bucks at the absolute cheapest. You might find used for cheaper, since most people don't have any use for them and PCs can't read bluray movies without downloading the necessary keys to beat their encryption.

>>106219695
>External device you can plug into a USB port.
This. Last I checked they could still be had for $20-30 dollars.

>>106220657
>>plug phone into car stereo via tapedeck adapter, headphone aux, or bluetooth (depending on what your stereo can do)
my stereo only has a a cd player

>>106219557 (OP)
Well they're necessary is you want to read or burn CDs and DVDs.
>>106219638
Yeah, but those are ISOs. The ISO has to be available online and I have to download it. And ISOs aren't good for storage. If I have a CD I want to play or want to store something on a CD then I have to use my CD burner.

>>106222790
>nothing ever happens
Shit gets lost on the internet all the time. That's why backing up is necessary.

>>106219557 (OP)
im thinking about buying one (i will need to change my case, fuck it), because cds are the best form of offline backup by a mile and easily available and cheap. also i can rip and record stuff.

>>106226266
My condolences. That is an exceptionally shitty stereo to have.

>>106226843
No they're not, they're insanely expensive for the size
Just bubble wrap a hard drive or use flash drives

>>106219557 (OP)
I like to have all manner of tech around for completionism and tinkering. Recently I found some old DVDs and had to dig out an internal DVD from another box in order to read them. Felt pretty good to be able to do that after years of neglecting it.

>>106226843
Get an external one, retard

Get an external one. I got some old pc games (recommend Toon Struck) and I have been having a drive again.

https://www.amazon.com/NVOPERANG-External-Blu-ray-Type-C-Burner/dp/B0DL64RPCQ?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.B8JK0sDj6p4E-8x6sPHNOdCggPMMV3tScen5rpNdoF70yauYwJ3U5FheZYCJWikplLNwHyw2RY_6qLJ77hfxab8mSDhb8-WDSdMiutksmrcd8Os1zSMCqVocyxY-QvkanIQ8qOhsO9E3y-YQr4mjdgiJdDGtq9L5xCdC9aIwdLoTRv6MEW8xQ3ywQ4acRgeD9MxsvUmV_jnkvhGxfaUjz04m-kFHI0bqB9_AyzNxV-o.1cOFI6wVx7_HGpjKlONWbkRPlk4Z4V515RhqNNRvrDY&dib_tag=se&keywords=blu-ray+writer&qid=1754942131&sr=8-6

Cheap af?

>>106219557 (OP)
No and it blocks airflow.

>>106227360
The amount of airflow a cd drive would block is negligible.

For me, it's the BW-16D1HT w/ RibShark firmware.

>>106227391
In modern cases without front drive bays the entire front can be used as an intake with a fan blowing directly at the CPU cooler.

If you still insist on having an optical drive you're likely to block off 1/3rd or so of the CPU cooler which is significant.

>>106227391
All the cases with external bays are shittier across the board

>>106227578
Fractal Pop has two 5.25" bays at the bottom. Granted. shit ergo when your case is on the floor, but it's still a good compromise.

>>106227622
Fuck you kike
Kys

Yes, for me there is. I own a $25,000+ NAIM and LINN reference stereo system from the 90's. Music CDs are a huge aspect of the system. If I wish to play bands that don' t issue CD's, I need to roll my own locally.

Also, hyper encrypted CDs are a secure physical storage medium of which I can exert direct custody and control and chain of possession. They cannot be scanned or penetrated. I am a political dissident, you can figure out the rest.

Yeah. I burn my shitty dungeon synth tracks and leave them in unexpected places.
1 out of 10 cases also feature a picture of my dick inside.

is there any point in having a computer these days?

>>106227245
again, cds are better suited for offline backups, model i posted is selling for pennies here, 11€. dvds are cheap as well.
>>106227304
poor quality crap and same price as above, i don't want things to be scattered, i want it all in one place; my case.

>>106219695
I put my old internal sata drive into a USB caddy.

>>106229836
Forgot pic, can go horizontal or vertical

>>106229827
What discs are you finding that have even remotely as much value as a typical hdd

yes because it makes a fun noise. I keep the SATA unplugged for more hard drives though

>>106219557 (OP)
nostalgia

>>106219557 (OP)
In? Not necessarily. Around, definitely. Having one of those $20 USB CD drives in the drawer just in case is pretty useful on occasion.

>>106219557 (OP)
Mine is in my closet. I bring it out when I need it.

>>106222620
Unc spotted
Combo reader/burner drives have been standard for optical drives for literally two decades now

>>106227344
it can't write bd-rs
it can only read them

>>106219557 (OP)
for physical media? you DO buy physical albums of your favorite artists and animu blurays right?

>>106219594
how often do you watch movies you already watched before?

>>106227344
>Can't read and burn 4KUHD
>formats can't be modified/jail broken to read and rip and burn 4KUHD

>>106234184
>Firmware*

>>106219557 (OP)
How are you gonna watch your DVDs without a DVD drive?

>>106219557 (OP)
Burning and playing dvds.
You dont bavkup your shit to physical storage? I know retards talk about bit rot and shit for dvds but i have 20 yearold discs that still run like the day they were burned. External ssds can fail over time.
Hdds will absolutely fail over time.
A dvd is less likely so.
If you can burn a dvd and archive shit youll never be without software to do what you need to do.

>>106222441
Bdrw units are nice. You can still get a top of the line LG unit for like 80 dollars but most manufacturers have stopped production because blueray never took off. It came about just as digital was getting big and accessible. Their functionality is great though. Bdrw drives can read and write ALL optical media. Dvd,cd,bd and mini discs. Leaving you with access to all legacy media.
I have a nice one and mostly just use dvds as theyre considered legacy media so dvd drives will be accessible for a long time movign foreward.
If you really want your shit to last use archive grade or m-disc dvds. They do cost more than your run of the mill spool of verbatim dvd-rws though.
Download 7zip archive shit. And for whatever reason i always burn the 7zip exe to the disc as well just in case i dont have it on whatever machine i need to get the data off the disc on.

>nuuuu i cant do UJD 4k video on it aieeeeee
is /g/ unaware that other data than video is distributed by CD/DVD?

>>106219557 (OP)
so i can use it to read CDs, such as the random XP-era software I steal from work

>>106219557 (OP)
if you need one and if you dont you're probably a faggot that i dont want to talk to

>>106222065
Yes they do. Just not the ones with glass panels and shiny lights for children. Thermaltake offers excellent options

>>106222065
>THE THING I SELECTED AND BOUGHT DOES NOT SUIT MY NEEDS!! WHAT THE FUCK!!! WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
idk works on my machine

>>106233671
Litterally all the fucking time dude.

>>106235778
Heres the real question for modern builds in dated tower design users.
You you prefer panels on or pull panels off when the thing remains parked for extebded periods of time?
I have a blower card so i prefer panel off. Its not an asthetic choice. More of a function, though it works fine if panels are on. It just runs warmer.

>>106235858
i leave the panel on because i smoke at my desk like an animal but the real reason you should leave the panel on is that it actually restricts airflow but it's Good Actually to make a wind tunnel like thing to carry the hot air away instead of just create turbulunz

>>106235778
That's a literal HP prebuilt. Does Hewlett Packard sell cases, you fucking numbskull? Throw your keyboard away right now.

>>106226843
>>106227429
whats the difference between these, both can read and write cd/dvd but only the expensive one can write and read blueray? does the cheap version read blueray?

>>106235940
I could see the logic in that. Guess ill have to get some zipties out and rearrange some shit.

>>106236293
Thermaltake was stated earlier in this thread. Theres several fractal chassis models out there as well that are current and accept disc drives.

>>106236610
>does the cheap version read blueray?
No, you need a BluRay drive for that. The thing about the BW-16D1HT is that you can flash custom firmware on it that'll let you rip BDXL 4K disks as well as archive CD's as those require a specific reading technique that the BW-16D1HT supports after flashing it with the RibShark firmware.

File transportation and storage that cannot be traced in the coming mass surveillance era.

>>106236637
How dare you reply to me?

>>106219557 (OP)
i copy the iso of every dvd i own because i prefer the convenience of having it on my HDD with the menus etc.

Lion King Platinum edition disc 2 content. good luck finding this shit in a torrent.

>>106226266
you could try an fm transmitter, you plug (or bluetooth) your phone into the transmitter and it broadcasts your music to a fm frequency that you tune your car to, it works really well and they are under 20-30 bucks

>>106236621
A drill and a dremel can add cans to your side panel for intake below the gpu

>>106236293
Here you go retard

>>106236711
The burner has identification for tracking disc origin

>>106222525
>paying for movies and tv
ishygddt

>>106227429
Can it rip UHD4K with makeMKV?

>>106240887
With modded firmware, yes.

>>106240897
and you use RibShark instead of the firmware on makeMKV forum to mod the firmware? Also, is it release date/firmware specific; which specific one should I lookout for in the market?

>>106240937
In case of the ASUS drives, you don't need a specific revision since the makeMKV flasher will handle the decryption. RibShark firmware is just the makeMKV firmware with minimal tweaks to enable that CD readout Redumper uses. I just bought a fairly new model from like 2024, flashed it and it works.

>>106240952
nicely done. can I get it on Amazon? where'd you pick yours up from? eBay?

>>106240978
Not from the US.

>>106240984
ah you got yours in the UK/AU. you remux with it?

>>106240995
Got mine in PL. Haven't gotten any BluRays to rip yet but I already successfully dumped old CD's with Redump.

>>106219557 (OP)
basically storytellers obsoleted this shit millennia ago

>>106219557 (OP)
nop
cds will outlive dvd because the number of bits per inch is far lower, so they are less prone to damage.
Funny that most people don't realise how hard it is to preserve data for longer periods of time.

>>106236293
>Does Hewlett Packard sell cases, you fucking numbskull?
yes, when they ship you an assembled computer it comes in a case.

>>106220657
> tapedeck adapter
Sounds beyond shit. I don't comprehend how anyone could enjoy music this way.

>>106241003
I just ordered one. it should be here by Thursday

>>106219557 (OP)
I kinda miss it, using a laptop or external is clunky

>>106219557 (OP)
yes

>>106239232
Proof?

>>106227245
I have stacks and stacks of DVD-R spools that I've bought from the thrift store for like $1-$3; everybody used to have them and suddenly everybody got rid of them so they're pretty easy to find cheap around me. I even found a sealed 50 pack of BD-RW discs but I've never opened them since I mainly use DVD-R discs to burn stuff like anime, games and OS installs to give away to people.

>>106240325
How do you think they get onto the internet? Do you think the bluray fairy strips the DRM and turns it into a torrent then it just magically appears? I wouldn't pay for something that I can already get for free. I pay so others can also get it for free.

If you have a use case for it.
You can always get an external one.

>>106241465
My car stereo has the option to use a tape deck or CD's. I'm not gonna carry around a binder of CDs like a faggot

>>106243709
Using a janky tape deck adapter like it's 1995 is way more embarrassing. At that point it's time to look at a replacement unit.

>>106243728
>waste money on a stereo
Why, I have a tape deck

Everybody that likes physical media is a onions boy. Discs are overrated as hell and are just an autistic obsession.

>>106219557 (OP)
Where else am I gonna use my lifetime archival m-discs?

>>106243854
don't use them and use something normal instead

>>106219557 (OP)
I removed mine for another HDD. I then picked up a 5.25 USB drive bay for the optical drive. I don't use it often but it's super nice when I need one.>>106219638

>>106219638
I assume you're on windows which can mount iso files natively now.

>>106241350
That's not a case, then, that's a computer.

>>106221810
You would think it would be a bad thing but the disks were very durable.

>>106241057
Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.

>>106244049
evenTHOUGH that doesn't make sense

>>106244067
It doesn't however the discs rarely got scratched. I know because I had retarded brothers who wouldn't put discs away properly. The gamecube and wii dvd discs would always stop working while the PS3 discs would put up with it far better.

>>106244087
most blurays have an ultra hard coat because it's so close to the surface

>>106219557 (OP)
I wouldn't say it's worth actually putting one in your case if you don't already know you're going to be using it a lot. Having a USB drive handy just in case, sure that's not a bad idea. You can get a drive that reads and writes pretty much everything for like 100EUR.

>>106219707
BDs aren't really appropriate for backup of a lot of data. Writing them is quite slow and they don't store that much data per disc (not even the 100GB ones which are extremely pricey). They're alright if you have a relatively small amount of stuff you really want to keep.

CDs are such a shit form factor. I just plugged in my 2000s PC with 3.5" floppy drive and it feels so good. You put it in and there's a solid CLUNK! you push eject and the disk shoots out. It's immediate. Really satisfying. Better than sex. Discs on the other hand, so slow. I get why nerds keep posting those enclosed disks saying they should have won out. Anyway, I just found my "favorite links for new computer.txt" from 2004. God bless floppy diskettes.

>>106222280
I love you

>>106244321
ever heard of a parasocial relationship?

>>106226843
>because cds are the best form of offline backup by a mile
Mental retardation or bait?

>>106226843
Tapes are apparently better for long term storage according to the science, peer reviewed studies and facts. Also DVDs and Blu-Rays are better long term because they are more protected

>>106244381
If liking people who rip their own music makes me parasocial then so be it

I burn cds with music to listen to in my old car

>>106219557 (OP)
Cold storage

>>106219557 (OP)
Optical discs are the best technology to use for when the internet gets shut down. They are cheap and portable which makes them the best medium for distribution. The internet is not absolute and if you intend to share any of your media with others, the compact disc should be your first option.

>>106219557 (OP)
Yes

not in my place. here I just torrent whatever the fuck I want. meanwhile americans are replying on this thing called net-flix if they want to see a movie or buy fucking blurays. I still put a dvd drive in my rig just for nostalgia reasons though

>>106243803
I'm confused, where do you store data which isn't on something physical?

>>106244398
NTA but it's not bait. CDs/DVDs/BRs are a solid storage option. They will last decades as long as humidity isn't too high. And if you are following 3-2-1 rule (3 copies, 2 media types, 1 offsite), then having optical media as one of these is valid.

Protip: Non-rewritables (-R not -RW) are better because there's no phase-change layer which makes data more stable.

>>106244398
>ur dumb
>doesn't elaborate
People like you are the actual retards by pretending to be knowledgeable by calling everyone else idiots without explaining anything and projecting your retardation to everyone else. Elaborate or fuck off

>>106245664
>CDs/DVDs/BRs are a solid storage option
yeah well too bad you can't even fit in a modern movie on a dvd. bluray burner + 20 discs will cost more than a 2 tb hard drive in my place, too

>>106246097
I think most 1080p WEB-DLs would fit on a dual layer disc.

100GB M-Disk

>>106219557 (OP)
Zoomer

>>106219557 (OP)
FBI 4chan moderators spamming these threads 24/7, talking shit about everyone that wants to have control, security or privacy. You can thank Windows, macOS and Brave users for this. Fucking baby duck slavecucks.

>>106246139
>>106246097
Some filesizes of recent movies:
28 Years Later 2025 1080p WEB h264-ETHEL 5.88 GB
Eddington 2025 1080p WEB h264-ETHEL 7.64 GB
Smurfs 2025 1080p WEB h264-ETHEL 4.54 GB
Jurassic World Rebirth 2025 1080p WEB h264-ETHEL 9.96 GB
Together 2025 1080p SCREENER WEB-DL X264 AC3-AOC 5.99 GB

If you wanted to burn movies to discs a bluray burner + a stack of bd25s is probably the way to go. It would be the modern equivalent of burning xvids onto DVDs like we used to. But filesize targets aren't really a thing anymore so they will be all over the place, unless you're downloading YTS tier garbage encodes.

>>106246097
dvd-r are for pictures, docs, software and videos - cds for music. for me theres no much need for a blu rig, i will not buy movies. due to their immense file size, you better off storing blu rays in hdds, the ones you torrent online of course and always seeding stuff you like.

>>106244306
>"favorite links for new computer.txt" from 2004
share please. that sounds fun.

>>106246148
God I fucking hate this faggy botted site.

>>106247236
It's the image on Wikipedia and first hit on Google.

MakeMKV is back. Doomfags BTFO

>>106247858
Really? That's good, I just bought a BR drive and was hoping to do the firmware flash thing to get it to work with UHD BR ripping.

>>106219557 (OP)
I play eroge and they all need a DVD drive to install.
also many CDs to listen to and rip

>>106246097
Why would you need to put a modern movie on a Blu-ray disc? Just get the actual Blu-ray

>>106219557 (OP)
Yes, get an mdisc capable blu ray drive and you can write cd/dvd/bluray/mdisc.
I use this all the time for cold storage backups for the mountain of family photos and videos my wife takes. It has little use outside of that unless I need to rip an old DVD.

>>106248259
>paying to watch a movie at home
I open torrent tracker and buy it for free. I'd download a car too, if I could. multiple cars in fact

>>106225373
>eunuch qt
troon coded

>>106219557 (OP)
I don't get why people ITT suggest using bluray. you can get HDDs for $10-20/TB. why the fuck would you but BD discs + writer when they are more expensive than portable HDDs?

>>106247993
Nice collection, anon. I'm still waiting on my subahibi 15th copy.

>>106219638
>Can't you just use an .iso reader like DaemonTools?
How do you do, fellow grandpa?

>>106219557 (OP)
If it didn't come in cd's, it's not worth using.

>>106219557 (OP)
yeah for movies I still go to a physical location to barrow movie dvds

>>106219557 (OP)
6 years after dropping the DVD drive completely on my current build my new PC will have my first BD drive.

I just discovered there are no good writable cds and cd burners anymore, you need to dig for old stuff somehow

Most people don't understand the relationship between SSD storage temperature and its data retention period while powered off. Given that optical media from 10-20 years ago still works it's understandable that they'll assume that if you want long term storage you have to go back to optical. However there is one good thing about optical: due to the sheer small storage quantity of each disc it forces users to spread out their backups over multiple storage mediums. Which means instead of losing 100% of their backup data to a RAID 0 failure/ransomware/dead controller, they'll only lose it to 5-10% instead.

>>106248294
And most people don't use these forms of media anymore, so it's somewhat of a layer of privacy deterrence

>>106253008
I can't really make sense of that table

>>106253150
Basically to retain data longer, active SSDs ironically benefit from high temperatures (but below 80C), which is why most SSD manufacturers do not recommend you use any kind of cooling on your SSD. Oppositely cooler temperature like say those found inside a refrigerator are excellent for storing SSDs while powered off, roughly spanning into multiple decades likely. Obviously we'll never really be 100% certain of this until we build a time machine though.

>>106253250
Someone should test this, fill 2 identical SSDs, put one on a shelf and put another in a fridge and see which holds data better like 5 years later.

>>106253250
>active SSDs ironically benefit from high temperatures
I see! That's what confused me, I expected the opposite and thought "that can't be, must be reading the table wrong"

Still, the numbers are a bit hard to believe. If I lived in some warm place and shut down my PC for 7 months, my SSD would be zero'd?

>>106247993
Nice collection, lad!

>>106253150
You're a VERY silly boy! VERY silly! :3

>>106253381
Bot reply

>>106253391
No you! :3

>>106253346
>If I lived in some warm place and shut down my PC for 7 months, my SSD would be zero'd?
Yup but I find it hard to believe any human could survive in let alone live in a house where 30C was maintained 24/7.

>>106244067
they added a scratch resistant coating that dvds didn't have. it was pretty effective at fixing the wear and tear issue of dvds and cds

>>106246148
i don't think the glowies care if somebody watches moana 2 for free. probably think it's just as much of a nothingburger as we do.

>>106246196
>those tiny filesizes
>h.264, 1080p
anon...

>>106253008
so you're saying i should put my ssds in the freezer

>>106250462
Blurays are better for cold storage than HDDs. Unlike spinning rust they don't have moving parts or break if you drop them.

>portable HDDs
You mean SSDs in a case? No, they are bad for long term storage and need to power on every so often to keep working, which is extra work.

Actual HDDs cannot be usb powered like SSDs and need an additional power source. If you mean to use HDDs with some kind of externally powered portable dock, see negatives above.

Any other questions?

>>106253685
I'm not sure why you'd want your data to last 100+ years. You probably won't even be alive that long to ensure it stays frozen...

>>106221667
>bluray discs
>archival purposes
lmao

>>106253705
>Actual HDDs cannot be usb powered like SSDs and need an additional power source.
At this very moment, I've got a 1DG142-240 operating happily with nothing but a single mini-USB plug, connected directly to a rear USB port on my mobo, so clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

>>106253705
This is bait

my CD-Rs are 700MB and DVD-Rs are 4.7GB. What's the fucking point of these things anymore?

>>106253781
2.5 hdds have lower capacity, higher cost per TB and are worse for long term storage than 3.5s. I didn't think to give them consideration but I guess you're right. Be aware that the drive you are using is SMR which has higher corruption risk.

Regardless, HDDs suffer from lubricant drying and magnetic decay, and can have controller failure, head crash, and NAND wear. None of this happens to optical media.

>>106253799
Maybe it's a good thing that your 100GB bloatware "game" doesn't fit on a bluray.

>>106253914
Operating Systems, anon. I remember when an OS like Windows XP fit on a CD-R. wtf happened? BLOAT

>>106219557 (OP)
Yes, PS2, PS1, Xbox, Xbox 360 medi as well as CD and DVD media an legacy software like visual studio six etc

>>106253705
you didn't even respond to my question lmao. I asked why would anyone spend more money on discs than in HDDs. you just said "HDDs are bad because $REASONS", with a list of reasons that aren't even that bad.
you can check this, btw: go to https://diskprices.com/ and check prices. then go to amazon and check prices for bundles of bluray discs. BDs are more expensive, esp. well-known-branded ones.

>Unlike spinning rust they don't have moving parts or break if you drop them.
I mean, they could break if you treat them badly, but HDDs have safety mechanisms. in fact, 2.5 HDDs (usually used in laptops) have even more mechanisms than 3.5 HDDs.

>You mean SSDs in a case?
>Actual HDDs
have you ever used a portable HDD? looks like you haven't. they are HDDs, just like the bigger ones.

>need to power on every so often to keep working
wat

>>106253885
nta (I'm >>106250462)

>2.5 hdds have lower capacity
this is mostly irrelevant. we are talking about storage here, so 2.5 or 3.5 doesn't really matter much.
hell, I'd say it's better to have smaller HDD than bigger ones if you care about storage.

>higher cost per TB
it's a bit higher, but still lower than bluray discs.

>>106254027
>visual studio six
Based

>>106254199
Your main complaint seems to be that BRs cost more per TB than HDDs. This is correct and I never said this wasn't true.

However BRs are still better for long term storage.

>>106254827
For reference, BD-Rs cost $15-$25 per TB when buying 50-100 disc spinals. HDDs (8TB-20TB) cost $10-$20 per terrabyte.

BD-Rs hardly break the bank in comparison and for the extra 25% in cost you get unmatched long term storage.

>>106253680
They are WEB-DLs. It's a healthy middle ground between YTS slop and transparent HDB encodes. Good enough for most people, since they are ripped from streaming it's what most people will get anyway.

>>106219638
>can't you just download more ram?

>>106226266
So it most likely has a cd changer socket in the back
>pull the radio out
>plug in a £40 bluetooth module (make sure to have the right amount of pins for your car)
>put the radio back in
profit

I watch blu rays and dvds using the power of my videocard which is so much more powerful than the hardware in any bluray player it is better than any purchaseable device.
Of course it was hard due to copyright fags intentionaly breaking bluray playback on pc.

The videocard and 5.1 or 7.1 32+ bit 192k+ sound of a mid quality pc would require spending a lot of money in audio video equipment to compare.
My woman likes buying dvd and bluray movies and I like playing them on my most capable hardware, not spending what the pc cost a 2nd time on a home entertainment system. And you simply can not buy a player that equals a decent graphics card, or it would cost more than one. With the right rendering software a gpu beats all other tv playback options of the home consumer.

>>106256058
Unless it needs to be deinterlaced there's not really much the GPU is going to do versus anything else with hardware accelerated decoding. Unless you're using some meme upscaling shit.